The Duran Podcast - EU WAR Psychosis. Zelensky Patriot missile lies revealed

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

EU WAR Psychosis. Zelensky Patriot missile lies revealed ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, Alexander, let's talk about the military situation in Ukraine on the front lines. What is happening in Zaporosje, what is happening in Bakrowski, Kupyansk, a lot of areas to discuss and to break down. And a military situation that is causing a lot of panic and alarm in the collective West, in the United States, as well as in Europe, where the EU leaders met in Copenhagen. And according to the statements from Victor Orban, the European leaders, they want war with Russia. They want to go to war with Russia, maybe even as soon as 2026, but definitely by 2007. Once again, this is Victor Orban's assessment of things. And he's there.
Starting point is 00:00:48 He's at the table talking to them and discussing things with them. So that's the situation in Europe. Yes, it is. They're getting more hysterical and more frightened. When people become frightened, they become angry. When they become angry, they make decisions that are bad decisions. In fact, increasingly crazy decisions. And because decisions made in anger are by definition always bad decisions. I mean, in this kind of situation, you need a cool head and you need calm and you need to think things through and ask yourself what can work and what cannot. What can work, what might work, in theory, if they were ever to try to do it, is diplomatic engagement. But of course, that is something they categorically refuse to do. That is the Europeans. The Americans, the Trump administration, has attempted diplomatic engagement. But it never really did so with any true sense of good faith behind it.
Starting point is 00:01:53 because what it was trying to do was trying to coerce the Russians to agree to freeze the conflict on American terms, which is again something that the Russians were never going to do, because the United States never wanted to respond to Russian concerns about what the Russians call the root causes of the conflict, which are issues of Russian security. So given that they won't engage in serious diplomatic engagement, and given that they losing the war and giving that they have no actual means to reverse that, you can understand why they're becoming frightened and why they're becoming angry and why they're talking about war and why there is constant, relentless, incessant talk of war and why minor events which once upon a time
Starting point is 00:02:48 would have been disregarded, like a few Russian decoy drones drifting onto Polish territory, or Russian fighter jets flying from Karelia to Kaliningrad, why these events are being stoked up and talked about in this kind of hysterical way that we are seeing at the moment. And what is, of course, driving this is the fact that the war is being lost. Now, I have come to the view that, well, for a long, long time, obviously, that the, Ukrainians have been deceiving their allies about the true military situation. Over the last few weeks, we saw this narrative suddenly appear in the West, in the United States. Trump himself appeared to adopt it, that the Ukrainians were actually winning. Now, what I think happened,
Starting point is 00:03:42 and this brings us back directly to the military situation, is that the Ukrainians were misrepresenting to the Americans and to the Europeans, what was happening, northeast of Pakkrovsk. If you remember, northeast of Pakrosk, near a town called Dobruppelia, the Russians back in August carried out an unexpected breakthrough and captured a string of villages, and you got this sort of, it looks like a sort of spear, that a two-pointed spear pointing deep into the Ukrainian defenses. So Zelensky and Sirsky, as the Russians intended, transferred all the best brigades of the Ukrainian army, including pretty much all the best Azov brigades that are left, to try to throw the Russians back. And an intense encounter
Starting point is 00:04:39 battle has played out in this area between the Russians and the Ukrainians, throughout late August and throughout the whole of September. And the Ukrainians have been telling people, giving all kinds of optimistic stories about how well they were doing. They were claiming to have recaptured all sorts of places. They were claiming that they'd encircled the Russians in this area of breakthrough, that they'd created at least three cauldrons of Russian troops there. They implied that this was a massive disaster for the Russians and that Ukraine was winning this battle, northeast of Bakrosk. What has happened over the last couple of days, maybe the last week, is that it's become
Starting point is 00:05:27 absolutely clear that these Ukrainian claims were simply wrong. They might not have been complete and outright lies in the sense that the Ukrainians did carry-out attacks, counter-attacks, in these places. But it was wrong to claim that any of these counter-attacks were succeeding. And it is increasingly looking as if these counter-attacks not only were not succeeding, but they are now failing and that the Russians are back on the attack in this particular area. And in the meantime, even as all this fighting has been going on, northeast of Pachrosk, Pachrosk itself is being lost. Now, about three weeks ago, Russian media outlets began to claim that the Russians were making
Starting point is 00:06:23 big advances inside Pakrosk, it's a fairly big place. This is all being discounted, always being ignored. Now it looks as if all of those reports are true. The Ukrainians inside Pakrosk itself are saying that, All exits and entry points to Pakrowski are closed, that the only way Ukrainian soldiers can enter Prakosk is on foot and in very small groups, which means that supplies cannot be sent to the Ukrainian garrison in Pakarovsk anymore and that there is an operational crisis there. And we have discussed in many programs how pivotal Pakrovsk is to the entire defense line that the Ukrainians have created with this row of cities, Konstantinovka, which is already itself now under severe pressure and Slaviansk and Kramatoz, further north. And elsewhere, again, along this defense line for the Ukrainians, things go from bad to worse. We have the Ukrainians now finally admitting, again, what the Russians have been saying,
Starting point is 00:07:45 which is that the Ukrainian garrison in Kupiansk is essentially surrounded. Again, you can only exit and enter Kupiansk on foot and it's more groups. and it's likely that at some point we're going to see an attempted Ukrainian breakout there because they are surrounded and suffering heavy losses. The Russians appear to be close to completing fully the encirclement now of the fortified town of Sivask, which is a bit to the east, and they're very close to Lehman, Kupiansk, Sivask, Leman. You put the northern part of the defense line, the town of Slaviansk, under pressure, possible encirclement.
Starting point is 00:08:31 If Pachrovsk is lost, the whole area is encircled. And the Russians, the Russian general staff has now made it fairly clear that, in fact, the main target is not even Slaviansk now. It is Kramatoosk, the city, the biggest town in this cluster of towns, that once Pachrovsk, Konstantin of Khrfall, the main attack will be on Kramatosk. If Kramatosk collapses, defenses collapse, and it's a big place, it'll take up time. But if the defenses that collapse, the entire Ukrainian defense line in Dombas collapses. And as we've discussed in many, many programs, going all the way back to February, March, 2022, If the Ukrainians lose Dombas, the entire east of Ukraine, east of the Dnieper becomes undefendable as well.
Starting point is 00:09:25 So that is one operational crisis for the Ukrainians where they've been claiming success. It now looks like they've been experiencing failure and further south in Zaporosia region. the Russians continue their remorseless advance, kilometer by kilometer, towards the Nipa River, and there doesn't seem to be anything that the Ukrainians can do to stop them. Since they started back in April, they seem to have covered around half the ground. So, you know, it's an incremental advance, but it isn't as slow, as some people are trying to say. So you're saying that the decisions from the Trump White House, the panic from the European Union to go to war is a byproduct of information that they're getting from Ukraine, the fake information that Ukraine is feeding. And this is not the first time that this has happened, that Ukraine has given the collective West ridiculous information about the situation on the front line.
Starting point is 00:10:40 and the West has actually believed in what Ukraine was telling them. That also goes for the Western media as well, which believes everything that Ukraine tells them. How incompetent do you have to be to fall for this over and over again if you're the Trump administration or the European Union? I won't say the UK because I actually believe that the UK is in on it with Ukraine in promoting this fake information. I think it's the UK and Ukraine. that are in the business of promoting the fake information that is coming from the front lines and then getting it out to at least the United States. Maybe they get it out to Europe as well, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:11:25 How dumb do you have to be to actually believe this over and over again? Well, you have to be very dumb, but the people who are, I think, bear a very heavy share responsibility for this are the senior army generals in the Pentagon. I mean, General Kellogg, obviously, was one of them, and he's obviously still in contact with them. He says the General Keene, who is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is backing him in these military assessments. And I am sure that that is true. We've seen this also with people like General Cavoli. We had it before with, you know, the other various generals that were there.
Starting point is 00:12:03 We remember the Viesbaden headquarters and the march at the Black Sea. and that they were going to capture a Crimea and the Sea of Azov and all of that and the Krenki operation, all of these things. But, you know, these people are so invested in this wall that they will simply not let it go. And we've had this pattern with the uniformed, the senior members, it's important always to say this, the very senior uniformed members of the American military. They did the same in Vietnam. they were giving incredibly over-optimistic rosy pictures about their progress in Vietnam to the White House in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:12:47 As I, by the way, can just remember. We saw that in Afghanistan, where they were doing exactly the same. And now, of course, they're doing the same with Ukraine. By the way, we've had another example, in my opinion, of how a fake story is now starting to crash to Earth. The Ukrainians have been repeatedly claiming for years now that they have enormous success shooting down Russian missiles, that they're able to shoot down Russian ballistic missiles and Russian hypersonic missiles and Russian cruise missiles. And we have the endless demands from the Ukrainians about more and more patriots,
Starting point is 00:13:28 even though Ukrainian military officials at one point were contradicting what Zelensky and co was saying, saying that patriot missiles cannot actually shoot down hypersonic, Russian hypersonic missiles and all of that. Anyway, there's a big article, even as we're making this program on the Financial Times. In fact, it is the lead article there, which finally admits that Patriot missiles are unable to shoot down most Russian ballistic missiles and most Russian cruise missiles and hypersonic missiles. In fact, most it admits even the cruise missiles are mostly getting through. And of course, this is all explained by new updates and modifications that supposedly the Russians have carried out, all to try to maintain the
Starting point is 00:14:23 pretense that previously the Ukrainians were telling the truth. But nobody who has been following the war in the sky with any attention has ever believed. the Ukrainian claims about numbers of missiles that they've been shooting down. And as I said, we now have that admission. But will it change anything? Probably not because, you know, they'll all say that it's all because, you know, the Russians have done something to the guided systems of the ballistic missiles. And all we need to do is to adjust ours. And somehow the situation can be overturned around. So let's go on supplying Ukraine with more and more Patriot Missiles. because, well, ultimately those will be successful.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's the same story again and again. It's, as I said, I remember it from Vietnam, just. I absolutely remember it from Afghanistan. We're seeing it play out in Ukraine again now. The collective West political elite and the mainstream media, they absolutely bought into the fantasy that Russia fired 100 missiles into Ukraine. And Ukraine shot down 120, right? They absolutely bought into that.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Completely bought into it, the political class in the collective West, as well as the mainstream media, which shows you how smart they are. But the European Union, for them, Project Ukraine has been a very successful power and money grab. Very successful power and money grab. Once again, not my words, Victor Orban's words, he said in an interview, other day, that Project Ukraine before anything else is a resource grab. It's a money grab. And that's what it's really all about for Europe. This is what Victor Raban said about Project Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So what are the chances that as they see this cash cow, this money grab, this resource, this resource cash cow that has been making much of the European elite incredibly wealthy as they see this thing crumble, what are the chances that they really are going to panic and go to war with Russia in order to try and preserve this project, this project Ukraine for them. It seems very likely now that Europe, especially if you go off of what Orban is hearing at the meetings at Copenhagen, that Europe is going to go to war or is going to try. It's going to try to go to war with Russia by 2026, 2027. I don't know if they have the military or the resources or the manpower to do such a thing. But I imagine that the goal would be to try and pull in the United States or all of NATO to get this conflict with Russia. And they could probably pull in Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Trump has proven to be a very weak president, especially when it comes to the Europeans, extremely weak when it comes to the Europeans. So what are your thoughts there? Well, a few things to say about this. I mean, Medvedev, who's the Russian vice chair of the security council, he actually commented about this. He said that, yes, the Europeans talk about war, but he doesn't think in the end that they will do it because they're too weak. And as he puts it, they lack energy. In other words, that Europe doesn't have the mental and psychological drive to really make the decision to go to war. And that. that way. And if you listen to any bizarre speech, the Radek-Sikorsky, the Polish Foreign Minister Gay, and he very much is at the center of all this, all this hysteria. Sikorsky said that, you know, Europe is already at war with Russia, but it isn't actually a real war. It's not a war like we've seen. It's a war which isn't quite a war. So I think that what the Europeans probably want to do is that they want to create a war psychosis, a sense of hysteria and anger and panic.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And it serves three purposes. Firstly, it keeps the United States involved, which remains a major priority because they knew the US in Europe, as you pointed out many times, to keep the money flow going and to keep the machine of the European Union and NATO. spinning. Without it, it can't function. So that is one thing. They need the hysteria of the war in order to be able to do things that up to now they've been nervous of doing, like seizing Russian assets. That's another thing that they want to do. They also want to use the war to increase arms spending, which to be very clear.
Starting point is 00:19:28 is all about, you know, subsidizing various parts of the MIC, but also ultimately themselves. And they also want to continue what Orban absolutely correctly describes as this massive paragraph that has happened in Europe ever since the start of the Special Military Operation with this enormous centralization in the European Commission, which increasingly has been making the key political decisions. And notice that Osir now is talking about converting the European Union into an outright security bloc and military alliance. So, you know, this is what I think they want to do. They don't want to actually enter into a real full kinetic war with the Russians for which they are unprepared. But they want, nonetheless, all the advantages of a war
Starting point is 00:20:26 without the, what they see as the advantages of the war, without the actual fighting. You know, they can do all the other things. Digital ID cards, which have now been accepted in Switzerland, and which Starma is trying to bring into Britain, more controls, more controls on information and the spread of information, more regulation, more spying on people, all that kind of thing. So this is what I think their objective is. Medvedev correctly said, this is a dangerous game, because especially given the hysteria
Starting point is 00:21:04 that underpins this, it can tip over into the outright kinetic war that we all have to be concerned and worry about. So this is what I think they want to do. This is how they see it. And they probably are not yet fully willing to accept or tell each other what Orban is pointing out to them, that the war in Ukraine is lost and that Russia has won. He's repeated that point again. And they're not prepared even to consider what none other than General Zillusione, remember him. He was the former Ukrainian military commander. published a really fascinating and very, very carefully written piece. He doesn't want to find himself in trouble, but he's published a very long piece about the state of the war, which actually
Starting point is 00:22:04 provides a fairly coherent explanation of the Russian strategy of aggressive attrition and admits it is working. So, I mean, Zalusin also says that Ukraine is losing. You have to, you have to to drill into his words carefully to see that, but that is what he's saying. But they don't really want to admit publicly that that is so. Yeah, the fear that the psychosis will actually turn into something kinetic. I think that's what Medvedev is getting at. Absolutely, yeah. I mean, and it is very real.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And of course, when we get long-range missile strikes into Russia, we're closer to that point than we have ever been. been. Bear in mind that the Russians now have started deploying the Ereschnik system. I have heard that up to 140 of these missiles have now been produced. And I have also heard that there are other missiles even more advanced or even more dangerous than the Ereschnik itself, which are coming into production in Russia. So, you know, the means to fight this kinetic war are certainly there and if they're ever used, well, well, if one doesn't want to even contemplate the implications of that. It's a very, very dangerous game and people in Europe, the leaderships in Europe, are blind to the risks of it. All right, we will end the video there. The durand. Dot locals.com.
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