The Duran Podcast - Failed attempt at Serbia color revolution

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

Failed attempt at Serbia color revolution

All right, Alexandria, let's talk about the Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, 24th, 25th of December, color revolution that took place in Serbia, failed, failed attempt at a color revolution that took place in Serbia in Belgrade, organized by the umbrella party Serbs against violence, who are pro-EU and yeah a cobbled together group of five or six individual parties put together under under this umbrella name Serbs against violence and they tried to pressure the Vouchage government into having a do-over of the election specifically in Belgrade. So what are your thoughts on what? took place in Belgrade and we'll discuss it further. First of all, I mean, can I just say that I have

absolutely no reason to doubt the results of the elections that we've just had in Serbia. I haven't been to Serbia now for many years, but I know lots of people from Serbia. You've been to Serbia several times recently. You've been able to gauge the mood there. I've been able to certain extent to gauge the move there from the various contacts that I have there. There is no reason to doubt these results. Vuchich's party, as I understand it, one in a massive, by a huge margin, it's likely to be in coalition with the Socialist Party, which is the former party of Slawardan Milosevic, by the way. They will have a convincing majority in the Serb Parliament, and even, and even, you. Even in Belgrade, yes, this is where, as is normal, in most of these countries, you will find

the people who are pro-EU, pro-NATO, all of those sort of people, concentrated, but even there, the likelihood is that a majority, a clear majority of people support Vujic, and not Vujic, the socialists, and that the elections in Belgrade reflect the real views of people. there. Now, we have seen this play out so many times. I mean, it's become, I mean, I'm going to say, it's almost boring now. I mean, the way in which we have the same pattern. I mean, I, you remember Russia 2011 when there were the parliamentary elections there, United Russia, sweeps the board outside Moscow, does slightly less well in Moscow itself. The result is protests by a small group of people in Moscow, never numbering more than, you know, about 30, 40, 50,000 in total.

But they protest. Fast amount of publicity. We see the same place after place, country after country. Serbia is just the latest example. But it also tells us a few things, which is that people, governments have become increasingly familiar with these tactics. The Serbs say they were tipped off by the Russians and this was going to happen. I'm sure the Serbs didn't need to be tipped off by the Russians in advance to know that this was going to happen. It's not going to work because, as I said, the parliamentary results are

almost certainly correct. It's not like Belarus, for example, where you could perhaps argue that the results were inflated, even though there was no doubt in my mind that Lukashenko won. But in Serbia, I've no doubt the results are correct. Most people in Serbia do not support this. The Serbian government was ready for it. All that this affair exposed again is the shallowness and weakness of the pro-Western opposition in Serbia and the way in which it runs its old tactics in exactly the same way. of a way that this is all a SIE-off operation, if I can put it like this, is the name of this umbrella group, Serbs Against Violence. First of all, that is not any kind of political program. It doesn't tell you who they are. But notice how, you know, what it tries to imply, you know, we're against

violence. That means that the government which we oppose is in some way pro-violence. And of course, though we are against violence and the government is pro-violence, that doesn't mean that we can't engage in violence ourselves because we can try and storm, you know, local government buildings, which they try to do. But that isn't violence. That's anti-violence of some kind. This is the kind of mind games. And, you know, there's a man called Jean Chap who apparently in the United States who wrote up a manual. for all of this. And this is straight out of that manual. It's just, it tells you exactly who's behind it. Now it's all flayed out. But as I said, I mean, governments around the world, governments in Belarus, governments in Serbia, governments, of course, in Russia, know this game now backwards. And if a government is strong, as Vuchichich is, and if it has the support of most people, as Ruchich's government does, they will see it off. Yeah, I like this new tactic that the EU has put together, the collectiveist has put together in order to get a regime change during an election where they put together like five or six very small parties.

They put them together under one umbrella party and then they run them against the incumbent number one party in order to get enough of a percentage vote to remove the person that they don't want an office. This worked in the Czech Republic, barely. It barely worked in the Czech Republic, but it did work. Yes. In Hungary, Orban saw it off. He crushed this umbrella coalition. But once again, the EU, they did this again with Serbia. And there are many reports from the media in Serbia, which is saying that the one country

that was behind this, and actually Vuchitch put out a statement, and he said they know which country was organizing most of this. And the media of which Vuchich is very close to, they're basically. saying this was all coordinated by Germany. This is what they're saying. And Germany has denied, this. Deutsche Vela has denied these claims. But this is, it's, it's the same old story with regime change like Maidan or or instances like that. But you have to admit the EU has put a new twist to it with these umbrella groups and the names that they give them. I mean, it's, this is cheating what you think of it. I mean, you're cheating in the election right away by

creating this name and then putting together all these parties. Yes. You're you're you're you're misinforming the people, misdirecting the people. Well, absolutely you are. I mean you're you're you're, you're faking the nature of the political moment that you're you're purporting to support. Now, within the Czech Republic, it's important to say that you know, opinion there is much more finely balanced. I mean, there is very strong opposition to the policies that the EU has been running. Perhaps ultimately, even majority support. But opinion in Prague is very strong in support of the EU. And there are other people across the Czech Republic who are also very keen in support of the EU. So you could pull it off there. In Belarus, it was tried. I think, as I said, President Lukashenko at the beginning

made some mistakes, but he very quickly brought the situation under control, as we remember. in Serbia where Vuchitsch has long experience of dealing with this sort of thing. Remember, Serbia has been through a color revolution before, you know, the one that's brought down Milosevic. So, you know, Vuchich is very experienced about this. So are the Serb people. There's no possibility that this will work. So what does this do to Vuchich? Makes him stronger.

What I mean, what is it due to Vutcich? How does this change? Well, how does this change him? because Vuchich has been he does remind a lot of people tell me don't compare him to Lukashenko but I do kind of compare

to someone like Lukashenko or Erdogan in the sense that that he does you know play both sides and that's not a bad thing by the way but his strategy has been to keep the West on side

to keep Russia on side and to just kind of walk that tight rope and he does it very effectively as does Erdogan as did Lukashenko once upon a time until, and this brings me to my question to you, until the collective West got greedy and they wanted to remove Lukashenko, even though Lukashenko is not hostile to the collective West or the EU, but it wasn't enough.

They wanted him gone. And what did it do for Lukashenko? Lukashenko said, okay, now I'm 100% with Russia. So how does this affect Vuchich? Does Vuchich say, you know, you guys have got. gone too far. I was, I play nice with you all. I would make deals with you guys. I would, I would, yes, I was friendly to Russia, but I was also friendly to you. But now you guys tried to stab me in the back. Before I, does this, does this affect Luchich in that way?

Yeah. Before I answer that question, can I just say that you're out, just just going back to your earlier point, of course, the idea of cobbling together various parties to create an opposition, which can then challenge the incumbent, was exactly what they tried. tried to do in the election in Turkey as well. And it failed there also. Just, just, just, just, just to make the recent elections. The recent elections, exactly, which which Erdogan, of course, convincingly won. In fact, in Turkey at least, it consolidated support behind Erdogan. And I suspect it's done exactly the same with Vucic in Serbia. People saw through it. Now, what will it do to Vuchich? The important thing to understand is that Serbia is in a much more vulnerable position geopolitically and geographically

than Belarus is. Belarus does not have a border with Russia. Belarus has a border with Russia. Serbia doesn't. Serbia is surrounded by NATO states. It's isolated. There's always risks to its communications corridors, which have to pass through countries like Bulgaria, Greece. It's been denied access to the sea. You remember there was an uprising in Montenegro, which overthrew the government there, which is a pro-NATO government, and then NATO pulled out all the stops, and they brought back that government back into power. So Serbia is in a much more vulnerable position. It's got a border with Hungary, which is important, but Hungary also, when all of said and done is still a NATO state. It's also encircled. It's not got borders directly with Russia.

So that automatically obliges Vurchich to play a balancing game. And he's got more reason to do it, ultimately, than Lukashenko does. Lukashenko could make a choice. He could say, I'm 100% with the Russians, as he has, as he is now. But Vouchage doesn't have that option. So he's going to have to continue to play a balancing game. Because if he doesn't, he knows that the pressure points will grow. He knows, for example, that another crisis will be engineered in Kosovo or another crisis will be engineered in Bosnia.

He's played this game with incredible skill and he will continue to do it. At the same time, he knows, as do most Serbs. where the pressure is coming from. So though he will be made stronger by these events, he will play for time. And he knows the way the drift of events now. He knows that the Russians are winning in Ukraine. He knows that the bricks are getting stronger.

He knows that Eurasia is creeping closer and closer all the time. and he will bind and play for time. He will continue to play the balancing game. But gradually, ever so slowly, he will become increasingly more aligned with the Chinese and with the Russians. Yeah, all right. We will leave it there.

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