The Duran Podcast - German Chancellor Scholz struggles to keep coalition together
Episode Date: December 20, 2023German Chancellor Scholz struggles to keep coalition together The Duran: Episode 1780 ...
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All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in Germany.
An interesting speech from Olo Schultz.
He basically says that it's Russia that cut off the gas supplies to Germany.
Not me.
It's all Russia's fault.
And by the way, there's some news that the third party of the coalition, they're going to actually hold a vote or a referendum.
to see if they want to stay in the traffic-like coalition.
Schultz, the Greens, and I think it's, what's the party?
The FPD, the, the, it's the liberal democratic party of Germany.
The liberal, yeah.
The liberal party.
I think that's an interesting development.
Anyway, what are your thoughts about what's going on in Germany?
I mean, it was an astonishing speech.
It was one of the, possibly the single most mendacious speech that a German leader has given since the end of the Second World War.
And that is saying something.
I mean, well, other German leaders have tended to be reasonably honest with their voters,
but this was an astonishing one.
I mean, first of all, he must know, he must also know, by the way,
that most people in Germany also know that it was not the Russians who took the decision
to cut off gas supplies to Germany.
It was Germany and the Western powers that launched an economic war against Russia,
and it was Schultz himself who took the decision to suspend operation of the Nord Stream pipeline.
And it was Schultz and Harbeck and all of those people who last year took the decision
that Germany would be weaned away completely from reliance upon Russian gas
and that this was to happen by the end of last year.
So these were decisions made in Berlin by Harbeck and by Schultz himself.
So here's, I mean, he's straightforwardly lying.
That's the only word I can give to this.
Now, the big question is why is he doing this?
And it's a transparent sign that he's got his back against the war.
politicians only do this sort of thing when they become desperate.
And his position is becoming increasingly desperate.
First of all, he clearly assumed that the war would end in victory sometime in 2022.
There would be a new government in Moscow, presumably.
The gas would resume flowing.
The Germans would have their friends in positions of power in Moscow.
and all would be well.
I mean, he clearly assumed that.
Haubeck probably assumed that,
and that this would only be a temporary problem
until the terrible man and the people of the Kremlin
went away.
And, of course, it hasn't turned out that way.
German business is now becoming finally,
they're starting finally to speak out.
And they're saying that the energy costs
are now so high in Germany,
that it is no longer
makes economic sense
for them to maintain production
in Germany itself,
the German chemical industry in particular,
is now thinking of relocating to other places,
including the United States,
and that process of deindustrialisation
that we talked about
is now underway in Germany.
And remember that the Social Democrats,
historically,
to a much less extent today, but historically were the party of the organised working class in Germany.
They're still largely backed by the official trade unions in Germany.
The trade unions must be getting increasingly alarmed by the fact that industrial jobs in Germany are disappearing.
And that must be increasing pressure on Schultz.
But he's now got another problem.
which is that he was trying to hold everything together
through this complex web of financial devices
and budget devices and instruments that we were talking about.
We've already discussed it in previous programmes.
The Constitutional Court has told him that that is unconstitutional.
Now, he took a decision that despite what the German constitutional,
Constitutional Court said he would lift the deficit limit in Germany, on the grounds that Germany
is experiencing an economic emergency and run, therefore, a bigger budget deficit. Now, the free
Democrats, his coalition partner, who control the finance ministry, are horrified by this.
They'd made it absolutely clear that for them, it is.
a red line. They have to worry that if the coalition collapses and there are new elections,
then they might, because they were wise enough to get into this coalition, they might face an electoral
wipeout. So they've called this referendum in order to try to win support from their base,
to try to get people to agree that the Free Democrats should pull out of the coalition.
To me, that now looks all but inevitable, in which case the current coalition will collapse.
Elections.
Well, in Germany.
If that happens, or will we get other parties to join?
Well, this is it.
In Germany, it's not always, it doesn't always follow that because one government collapses,
elections necessarily follow.
It is not impossible that Schultz will reach over to Friedrichmann.
and the CDU and try to rebuild a grand coalition
bringing together the SPD, the CDU, the CSU and the Greens
because it's becoming absolutely clear now
that if there was an election tomorrow in Germany
the big winner would be the IFDAEFDAE.
And that is something that terrifies all of these parties.
But bear in mind, if you cobble together
a grand coalition like that,
then you leave the IFDAE
in sole opposition, the left-wing party, D'Linka,
has now dissolved itself, by the way,
in light of Sarah Wagnernerk's decision to create a new left-wing party.
So the IFTA is the only remaining organised opposition party
in the German parliament.
And of course, they're absolutely uninhibited in pointing out
the reason that Germany is in the position that it is in.
is because of the disastrous policies that Schultz and by the way before him,
Angela Merkel, have been following.
And what Germany needs is an entirely new direction.
And despite the fact that the IFD has no serious access to the media in Germany
and is under continuous pressure,
it looks increasingly as if it is gaining traction.
with German voters. It is now stably the second biggest party in Germany in terms of its polling.
And of course, if the CDU goes into coalition with a discredited Schultz, it's quite plausible
that its polling numbers will fall and a lot of those voters will probably migrate to the IFTA.
Yeah, why would you want to be associated with the loser like Schultz? I mean, his polling numbers are
are worse than Biden's.
Yeah.
I mean, he is absolutely despised, Schultz, and deservedly so.
They're trying to cancel, like, A. FD.
They're trying to prohibit AFTA in various areas from even being on the ballot.
Yeah.
So I think they're taking that approach just to cancel, just to try and work to cancel Afté.
Yes, absolutely.
And, you know, we mustn't discount the possibility that that might succeed.
I mean, you know, the analysis that I've just given you
is an analysis again based on what would happen
if politics and elections in Germany
were conducted normally.
But of course, there is now real possibility
that they might not be conducted normally.
I have to be very careful what I say.
If we get into those kind of scenarios,
then Germany's crisis is going to get
get very much deeper indeed.
I think that's the thing people need to understand.
It would not help Germany get out of its problems.
It would make them far, far worse.
And you would see, well, firstly in eastern Germany,
but also in much of the rest of Germany,
working class voters especially become completely disillusioned
with the entire operation of the political system.
Yeah.
And Germany's problems are the,
EU's problems. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Now, Germany's, Germany fed off the EU through the Eurozone system.
It was part of, you know, Merkel's, it was the Merkel's part of the, a key part of the
Merkel system. You used the Euro to basically make Germany the industrial hub of Europe,
obliterating in effect
industrial
rivals within the EU system
I'm grossly simplifying
to the point of character
to you but that was how it happened
that it was one of the reasons why Germany was able to run
these enormous
trade and budget surpluses
not the only reason I should say
Germany also traded with all sorts of countries
and of course the euro anyway
would have been
in terms of global trade
it would have been less
a much stronger current
is a much weaker currency
than the Deutschemark
would have been in those kind of situations
so
it worked the Eurozone system
in a kind of a way
worked well for Germany
for many years
but of course it allowed
as we've discussed many times
Germany itself is industrial strengths to atrophy.
It being the Germans very complacent
and it's made them very lacking in understanding
of what they needed to do
in order to keep their economy modern and up-to-date
and competitive.
At the same time, they've weakened the surrounding economies
to that point.
where they're now absolutely hitched to the German chariot.
If the Germans, if Germany sinks, they'll pull down the rest of the Eurozone and the European Union down with them.
All right.
We will end it there.
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