The Duran Podcast - Musk takes on UK Starmer and Germany Scholz

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Musk takes on UK Starmer and Germany Scholz

All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in the UK with Kier Stommer and Elon Musk, because recently Elon Musk has been highlighting what has been happening in the UK with gangs, with grooming gangs. And he's also been highlighting how at the time of a certain time period, from what I understand And when Stomber was in the courts, and when he was working in the courts, you had these cases going on. And Musk has been posting about what was happening back then, or I guess it's better to say, the lack of what was happening back then from a legal side of things when Stommer was in the courts. And the ultimate, it seems like the ultimate goal, the end game in Musk highlighting this is to get snap elections in the UK and to get Stommer out as Prime Minister. Now Stommer's ratings from what I understand are at a historic low. But this has become a very talked about row between Stammer and Musk. And it follows up on Musk's row. with Olives Schulz and the Kurds German government where he's been supporting Aevde

ahead of the SNAP election. So maybe we'll talk a little bit about what's happening in Germany as well. But what's happening in the UK? What exactly was Stommer's role? I believe the time period is 2008-9 to 2015-16. I know I'm getting the dates wrong, but that's basically what Musk is highlighting as Stammer's inability to go after these gangs. Absolutely. Well, I mean, let's first of all understand a bit about what Stama's role was at that time during the period that Musk is talking about. The best way to understand it was that Stama throughout that period was Britain's chief prosecutor.

Now, in Britain, we have a division between the police. that investigate crimes and an agency called the Crown Prosecution Service, which consists of lawyers. It's purely legal agency, which actually takes up cases, decides which cases should be prosecuted in the courts or not, and which actually conduct the prosecutions. Now, the head of that agency is called the Director of Public Prosecutions, DPP, for short, the chief prosecutor, and during that time period, the prosecutor in question, the chief prosecutor in question, was Kirstama. In fact, he became knighted, he became Sir Kierstana because of his work as Britain's chief prosecutor, which, by the way, is a non-political position. It's a civil service position.

So what Musk is doing is he's highlighting the fact that during this period there was certain really very, very unsavory gang activity going on in various towns up and down the UK. If you go to the British media, you can find out all of the details. The DPP of the time, Kyr Starma, and the Crown Prosecution Service and other agencies of the British authorities, showed absolutely no real interest in what was going on with these gangs until eventually the evidence became so overwhelmingly strong that prosecutions eventually had to be brought. And Stama has been repeatedly criticized about this, and he's never provided, in my opinion, any really cogent or satisfactory explanation for his inactivity. Contrasting, by the way, with the fact that, again, during the time when Starmat was DPP, chief prosecutor, well, it overlaps with some of the time when the British authorities were bringing proceedings against Julian which again many people had concerns about.

So what Lusk is doing is he's pointing to this unsatisfactory period, as he would say, in Stama's past. And he's saying, you know, this man, Stama isn't really very good at what he does. And he's clearly somebody who allowed crime to get out of control or get worse. during the time when he was DPP. We are in the middle of something of a rising crime wave in Britain at the moment. So that is a sensitive issue already. And of course, as we've discussed in program after program, Stama didn't win the election with any huge tidal wave of support.

He won a big majority because the Conservative Party imploded and because many, many, a turnout in the election was very low, but in fact, he won fewer votes than Jeremy Corbyn did in 2019, just saying. So he's pointed out that he's not particularly popular prime minister from the outset. And as pretty much everybody agrees, including in Britain itself, He has been so far a very, very unsuccessful prime minister. We've had a whole succession of scandals. You remember the spectacles of the clothes.

We've had the decision to take away winter fuel payments from pensioners. We've had the budget, which imposed taxes on business and killed a small recovering the economy that was taking place so that Britain is now falling back into recession. We've had actually the worst start to a government that I can remember, and my memory extends back to the late 1960s in Britain. So, Musk is saying this man is incompetent. He was incompetent with he was British chief prosecutor. He's incompetent as driving.

Minister. He has no real mandate from the British people. He is now the most unpopular Prime Minister. I think there's ever been, according to the opinion polls, or at least, if not the most unpopular, at least the least popular. His public support has collapsed. He never had much of a mandate to speak of. So why is he still there? Why is this man who has failed at everything he has done? Why is he still there? He's making all the same mistakes that he did as DPP. There's a rising crime wave. He's not able to secure the borders.

He said he would. He's not able to turn the economy around as he said he would. He's making one mistake after another. White continued to have him, prime minister. And we're getting opinion polls anyway, which show that the British people, many of them, are already very disappointed with Starmes, not that I think they had very high expectations. of him in the first place. Well, let's not forget that Stammer was publicly in support of Harris.

We had the whole mini scandal of someone at labor. I believe the chief of his cabinet who had some sort of organization that was in charge of some organization that then sent 100 consultants to Michigan so they can help Kamala Harris get elected. So, I mean, Stammer was openly, not only openly supportive Harris, it seems like Stammer or people around Stommer and the Labor Party where we're actively trying to get Harris elected. So, I mean, that happened.

Elon Musk is going very hard against Stammer, Alex. He's calling him two-tier tier tier. He's pointing out how Stommer did not go after the violent crimes, sexual abuse, and much more violent. But he's pointing out that Stommer did not go after these violent crimes, but he was trying to lock people away or to go after people for retweeting or reposting social media memes and posts and videos and stuff like that.

He's pointing that out. He's pointing out that he's actually saying that Stommer was the head of the CPS, the Crown Prosecution Service. Yes, that's right. From 2008, 2013. and he's saying that he was complicit in the worst crimes in the history of Britain. Those are the words he uses, complicity in the worst mass crime in the history of Britain. And he's calling on the king to dissolve parliament and have a new election.

What is this? I mean, what do you think of how Stommer is going, how Musk is calling out Stammer on all of this from his time as the CPS from 2018 to 2013. And what are the chances that the king actually does dissolve parliament because of these posts? Or this pressure, actually, his pressure. Well, let's go back to his criticisms of Stahner as DPP as head of the CPS. In other words, as Britishman's chief prosecutor. Every single criticism that Musk is making has already been made in Britain.

The expression two-tier care has already been made in Britain. I mean, this is not new in Britain. So Musk is not saying anything new. He's clearly very, very well-informed about Britain's internal conversation. But the crimes he's talking about were terrible crimes. And they took place in many places. And it is absolutely correct that they were. weren't prosecuted properly or efficiently or in time that the people who were perpetrating

them were able to do so for a long time and were able to do so because the authorities weren't acting. So all of Musk's criticisms are correct. All of the criticisms he's making about the latest cases that have been brought in Britain, many of them which do affect freedom of speech issues. About that, again, this is something that is talked about in Britain. I know some of the people who have been involved in some of these cases, just as that. So this is not something new.

So he's very well informed about this, and he's definitely touching, not just a raw nerve in terms of the British establishment, but he's definitely chiming. with what a lot of people in Britain say and think. You don't always read it in the media. There's some of it you do. But if you talk to people in bars or pubs, you were here, or people, you know, taxi, people who drive you in taxes, they do talk about these things. These are not, as I say, new things. Now, about the king, dissolving parliament, yes, he's well informed about the the British Constitution. In theory, the King can dissolve Parliament. The very last time that the King, acting on his own initiative, dissolved Parliament in the UK, was, I think, carried out by the Prince

region in way back in the early 19th century. So it's not, it's just not going to happen. The King only dissolved Parliament on the advice of his prime minister and the prime minister is Kirstama and the king is not going to breach convention by doing that. He may have the constitutional right, but he's not going to exercise it. Putting that aside, the king himself, there are worries about his health. I just don't think he has any desire to become involved in this kind of battle. He's also worried about his wife's health, rather not his wife, his daughter. His daughter. in Laws Health as well. So he's got all of these issues. He's not going to do this. It's just not going to happen. But there is discussion within the Labour Party about the fact that Kirstama cannot lead

the Labour Party into the next election. And it is not impossible that other circumstances might arise in Britain which force an election, economic, political, who knows. All right. Wow. Any thoughts about Musk in Germany? He said that he's going to have a Twitter annex, an ex-spaces with Alice Vidal of the AFD. Musk is now openly in support of AFD. He actually wrote an opinion article in Belt, pissed off the political elites.

Also in Germany, Schultz, merch, all of these guys got very upset with Musk and his support. of the IFDA and Alice Vidal. And now we're going to get an X spaces. So he's bringing a lot of attention to the elections of Germany, which are scheduled for February 23rd. And he is saying that the AIFDA is the last chance for Germany. If they don't get the IFDA into power, then Germany is done.

That's what Musk is saying. What do you make of this? Well, first of all, I mean, the thing to say about this is the first point to make is that Elon Musk is entitled to his point of view. It is astonishing that people in Europe, in Britain, and Germany react so negatively when he expresses his point of view. After all, just pointing out that if you're talking about European politicians, British and German politicians, they never hesitate to express their point of view about political events in other countries, including a small country in the Southern Caucasus recently, just saying.

So, you know, why shouldn't Elon Musk talk about who he supports in the election in Germany? I appreciate that he's now, in a sense, a member of Donald Trump's team. But as far as I understand it, he's not exactly a member of the cabinet. And, you know, he's a businessman. I think he's got investments in Germany. I think he's got every right to express a view. That is my own personal view. Now, this extreme reaction to what he has said, both in Germany and in Britain, but especially in Germany, tells us an awful lot more about the political establishments in both of these

countries than it does about Elon Musk. It shows that they are very worried indeed about the political establishments. political challenge they could be facing from the IFDA. And they are extremely worried that there could be a link up between the IFDA and Elon Musk. In fact, you know, but I say a link up that he might actually provide them with funding and provide them with a media space. Because of course the great problem the IFDA has, just as the great problem, Reform UK in Britain has, is getting a full media space. worried about that because they know in Germany as people in Britain know in Britain, that the IFDA and Reform UK have a lot of traction in what they say with many people. And I think we

recently discussed in a program where we discussed the politics in Germany. The opinion polls There not only show the IFTA rising, but they also show that Alice Vidal is now the most popular candidate amongst the various candidates, more popular than Friedrich Merz, far more popular than Olauels, to become Germany's next chancellor. So they're utterly spooked by this. They're utterly spoof because they're afraid that with Musk's support, with his money, but not mostly his money, with access to the information space that he might be able to provide, the IFD could do an awful lot better than they want to see it.

Yeah, my final question is, say that does happen. And say a half de, Alice Vidal ends up in first place, the elections, but they're not going to have an outright majority. That's obvious, right? They're still not going to be able to form the government, correct? Absolutely. I mean, the current German president, Frank Veltes Steinmeier, Steinmeier, is absolutely not going to nominate a point Vidal chancellor.

If you know anything about Steinmai, he'll bend over backwards to prevent that happening. What you're going to get is another unsatisfactory, unstable coalition cobbled together from the other parties, the CDU, at the SPD and whatever other parties there are, which will probably have a bare majority of the Bundestat. And probably MAPS will be the chancellor, I mean, because he is likely to be the biggest, he's going to lead the biggest party within that. So you're absolutely right, even if the IFDA wins, they won't win power. How does that change? Go on. How does that change Germany then, like if AFDA does come in first? What does that signify? What does that mean? It does change Germany. I mean, it may not change German politics, at least German policy

immediately. It might lead to a government that's the same essentially as the existing government. it will mean the power remains within the political class. But if the IFD emerges for the election as the biggest party, then, I mean, that is going to be an absolute shock in Germany. It will mean that the political class has lost control of the feelings and the thinking of the German and loyalties of the German people. I mean, it's impossible to overestimate. in a country like Germany, the incredible psychological and political shock that that would be.

But policy would not change. I don't think so. I mean, on the contrary, what I suspect would happen is that you see, as I said, this coalition cobble together. And the first priority they would have would be not just to keep things as they are, but to go on the attack, to beat, the IFDA back. I mean, you'd see more demands that the IFDA be banned outright, more attempts to restrict its actors to the media, probably a campaign to try to restrict Twitter X in Europe. I mean, that is a real possibility anyway of this. It's already been talked about. But, you know, you'd see concerted attacks, legal cases, you know, police deprecise. to the I.FTA's headquarters, we've discussed all of this, but you'd see that on an even

bigger scale, if the IFDA were to come out first, what you've seen, in other words, in Germany, is increasing political division and probably radicalization, much like what you've seen in the United States over the last 10 years, but on an even bigger scale, because we're talking about Germany and the political class here has become even more comfortable and entrenched than it is in the United States. And we're talking about a different society where people are basically expected to vote loyally for the existing system. All right. All right, we will end the video there at the durand.com. We are on Rumble odyssey, pitch, telegram, Rockfin. Next, go to the Durand shop, pick up some merch like what we are wearing in this video today. The link is in the description box down

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