The Duran Podcast - Nikki refuses to drop out of race, as donors drop Nikki
Episode Date: February 27, 2024Nikki refuses to drop out of race, as donors drop Nikki ...
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All right, Alexander, let's talk about the elections in the United States, the primaries.
In the United States, South Carolina specifically, where Trump beat Nikki Haley by a good 20 points in her home state of South Carolina.
That's not the big news.
That hasn't surprised anybody that Trump won South Carolina or that he won by such a big margin.
I think the question that everyone is asking is why is Nikki Haley still?
in this? Why does she refuse to
step aside?
There are a lot of different theories and narratives,
but that's what everyone is wondering.
What are your thoughts?
I have to say, I mean, I've thought about this along
because, I mean, logically, it makes absolutely no sense now.
I mean, if we look at the way the primaries have gone,
the whole Nikki Haley project has been a complete failure
in every single one.
I mean, you know, the breakthrough primary,
it was expected would be New Hampshire
and she failed there
and that was a shock
the Iowa Caucasus were a huge shock
and caused a shock in Europe by the way
it was in the Iowa Caucasus as a result of the Iowa caucuses
when the Europeans
finally began to understand
that the Nikki Haley project was going to fail
and they'd state a lot on it
And now she's failed, she's lost in her own home state where she was governor.
And looking on to Super Tuesday, which is in a couple of about weeks time,
she's not going to win there either.
I mean, you know, so this primary race, it makes absolutely no sense for her to keep going.
Now, I've thought about this a lot and I have come to the conclusion, actually,
that there were two factors which were keeping Nikki Haley in the race.
Obviously, she's not discussed this with me, so I don't know.
But factor one was money.
She was getting lots and lots of money.
She was extremely well-resourced and funded by all her donors.
And of course, that funding will remain in her campaign,
available for her to use going forward.
So, you know, in the next presidential election in four years' time,
you know, there'll be that big pot of money already to start with.
Who knows that that money could be used for all kinds of other things.
So that's one factor.
I think in that respect, she's had the rug pulled under her now
because the Koch brothers have now indicated
that they're no longer going to fund her anymore.
So one of the biggest funders has now pulled out.
They're saying, you know, what's the point
why are we throwing money into this failed enterprise?
But I think up to this point, that was one factor.
I think there was another factor too.
And it relates to all the court cases
against Trump, the disqualification exercise,
all of that kind of thing.
And I think at some level, she was saying to himself, even if he wins in every single primary, if he is stopped from going forward to the election.
Provided I keep going, I am still there.
So if he stopped, I'm there and available as a potential Republican.
Normandy to take his place. I suspect that was the calculation, not just her calculation,
but also the calculation of many of the people who have been backing him.
Yeah, I was going to ask you, she must be, she must be being told this by various
officials or permanent state members, Democrat officials maybe, stay in this race.
stay in this race because we're not
we're not yet done with Trump yet.
We'll find something to knock Trump out of this.
So just stick in this race a little longer.
So how does she stay in this thing without money?
Well, this is it.
I think the point is that I think that this particular project,
despite all of that calculation,
I think it's starting to run its course.
And partly the reason is that she has made no dent on Trump at all in the primaries.
Is she done better in New Hampshire and in Iowa?
And if she'd held Trump to say a 10% margin, not a 20% margin in South Carolina,
then we might be in a different situation.
She'd have had some delegates to take with her to the Republican Convention.
it would have looked as if she was in a position to step in.
But the problem is that it looking increasingly now
is at the Supreme Court of the United States
is going to come down on Trump's side
over the disqualification issue
and do so perhaps even unanimously
and in a big way.
That's the rumor, that's the talk.
And to be frank,
I think the court cases, the various court cases,
are not playing out as expected and are starting to unravel.
We've had this very bizarre decision in New York,
but it seems that Trump has decided to pay the amount,
you know, to put up the bond,
which will enable him to go forward to appeal,
and he's probably going to be able to find the money to do that,
and it's difficult to imagine this decision surviving,
in an appeal.
I ought to acknowledge him
my debt to Robert Barnes
I've been in contact with him about this
and he says that if he
you know the Supreme Court
of the United States does have
jurisdiction over this
case also.
So assuming
that the New York appeal fails
and it's
logically it cannot
it should not fail
he can take it
to the Supreme Court of the United States and argue that the decision violates his rights
under the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution. So that case is starting to look shaky,
because, to be frank, it's so completely unbalanced. I mean, you need to look at Jonathan Turley's
analyses to see why he's got it all set out, very clean. And the Georgia case, which I think a lot of people
were expecting would play out worse. Well, there's all the problems with the Georgia prosecutors,
which gained lots of news. And the two Jack Smith cases don't look particularly strong either.
So the cases are starting to creak, and it's perhaps premature to say that they're unraveling,
but it doesn't look like they're going to stop Trump. So with Hayes,
failing to break through in any of the primaries, you're starting to see
the donors, the Koch brothers, amongst others. And I suspect the Koch brothers
are only going to be the first. They're saying to themselves, look, this isn't flying.
We're just throwing good money off to bad. It doesn't make any sense. It does look now
increasingly as if it's going to be Trump versus Biden. And we have to face that reality
and decide what we're going to do faced with that choice.
Yeah, that's why they're bringing out Russiagate 2.0.
Where is it Russia Gate 3.0?
I don't even know what.
Oh, I don't know.
We are on, to be quite honest,
but that's why we're getting back into the Russia Gate narrative
because the Democrats are starting to understand
that it's going to be Trump Biden.
And so now they're pivoting to Putin, of course.
Who else?
Right?
Yeah, it's not going to be by Trump.
Biden's going to be Putin Biden. That's, that's how they're going to try to be. You're absolutely
correct. You are entirely right. And I want to say again, I mean, this, the way some people are
talking, too many people are talking, it's as if, you know, this is a done thing that if it's
Trump Biden, Trump wins, Biden loses. Nothing in American politics at this time is as simple as that.
This race is far from open.
This whole issue is far from closed.
Yeah, who knows what they can manufacture,
especially when you bring in Russia and then Putin from now until November,
to try and derail Trump.
Once the lawfare ends, once the lawfare ends.
Or you come up with something else.
And you talk up the threat to democracy,
of which there's been article.
after article pounding away of this.
And you talk all of that,
up. And for all I know, there'll be unrest.
I'm using a very carefully chosen word,
but there'll be unrest again in many of the American cities.
We could be in for a very stormy sum.
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