The Duran Podcast - Project Ukraine Risk Of Collapse w/ Garland Nixon (Live)

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Project Ukraine Risk Of Collapse w/ Garland Nixon (Live) ...

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Okay, we're live, Alexander, back again. We are waiting for Garland. There might be a time mix-up, but we decided that we'll go live, and hopefully Garland joins us soon. But there's a lot of news that we can talk about, Alexander, as we wait. So Project Ukraine Risk of Collapse. I took this title pretty much from the Politico article. What are your thoughts on that?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Well, I think that is what the article's title is, but I would actually correct the title if I was the editor of Politico, because it's not saying to me that it is at risk of collapse. I would say it is collapsing, because this is the most extraordinary article up to now that we've seen produced in the world. Western media since the start of the special military operation back in February 2022, because it is based on interviews with, we are told, senior Ukrainian military officials.
Starting point is 00:01:16 So these are Ukrainian military officials. And we are told that they're connected to General Zillusini. I actually believe that one of them is General Solutioni, the former commander in chief of the Ukrainian army. forces. I mean, it's very typical of him, by the way, to hide, you know, while he's telling us things. But anyway, the long and the short of the article is that Ukraine is losing the war, that there is nothing that can be done to change the situation, and that the Ukrainians are outgunned, that the Russians have more men, that they are, if they launch an offensive this summer, Ukraine doesn't have the means to withstand this offensive, that the $61 billion appropriation
Starting point is 00:02:08 in Congress, if that is authorized, is not going to make any difference. That the F-16s are not going to make any difference, that the Russians will be able to shoot them down, that there aren't enough weapons in the West to make any difference, that Ukraine would need a minimum of around 4 million shells to be able to hold its positions. And of course, there aren't that many shells in the West or in the international arms market. So effectively, what this article in Politico is telling us is that the war is lost. And I think that that is the first concrete admission that we've seen of this and note that it is coming from Ukrainian military sources. So, you know, this looks authoritative and definitive to me.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And I don't think there's any arguing with it. And we're getting all kinds of other news, which essentially corroborate what it is saying. And it explains why there is this huge panic and alarm in the West, that the Ukrainian army is unable to hold, and it's short of men, ammunition, machines. We've had further proof that it is out of machines
Starting point is 00:03:23 because they're now converting mechanics, brigades into infantry brigades. In other words, that the men in these brigades aren't going to be able to operate inside infantry fighting vehicles or armoured vehicles because they're now apparently in desperately short supply. And of course, the mobilisation law that Zelensky has been talking about is still stuck in the parliament. And even if it is passed, which eventually it will be, it's not going produce enough men to make up for the losses. So we have just been told in Politico, mainstream media outlet, very pro-democrat, very much on the progressive fist side of American politics, very pro-Biden, all of that, they're telling us that the Ukrainian military themselves
Starting point is 00:04:18 realize that the war is lost. Yep. Interesting article. Hello, Valias. How are you doing? Thank you again for moderating this stream. I didn't say hello to everyone that's watching us, Alexander, on this stream. We're watching us on Odyssey. We're a little bit because we're still waiting for a lot of us. Yeah, Rockfin, Odyssey, Rumble, the durand.com, and on YouTube. Thank you for joining us once again, and thank you to our moderators. We're helping us out.
Starting point is 00:04:55 A fantastic stream that we had earlier with Professor Jeff. Jeffrey Sachs. Alexander, why do you think there's Russophobia in Britain? Do you believe it's, as Jeffrey Sachs explained, or is there something more to me? It is hardwired in the system
Starting point is 00:05:20 because, again, it's very, very difficult to come up with a rational explanation for it. Bear in mind that Russia and Britain at the opposite ends of Europe, Russia has never invaded Britain at any time in its history. To the extent that there have been wars between Britain and Russia, they've all been fought by Britain against Russia on Russian territory. And in fact, there's only really been two.
Starting point is 00:05:46 One was the Crimean War, which we discussed in the programme with Geoffrey Sachs, which was, to be absolutely clear, a British war of choice and attacked by Britain against Russia, We know the archives. We know that the plan was to break up the Russian Empire. I mean, that was the plan. And of course, the Russians, the British intervened in Russia through the Russian Civil War directly after the Russian Revolution. And of course, they failed. But other than that, there's not been wars between Britain and Russia. On the contrary, the World Wars, the Napoleonic War, the First World War, the Second World War, Britain and Russia have fought on the same side. So why do the British, have this complex about Russia. Well, I think Jeffrey Sachs nailed it. It's this big, powerful country. It stands in the way of, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:43 first the British and now the American hegemony, it's important to remember that in the minds of the British establishment, it's not the American hegemony. It's the Anglo-American hegemony. Now, they're quite wrong about that, by the way. They're completely exaggerating their own importance in this partnership with the United States. But you can absolutely see why they have this complex about Russia.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And I think it's got worse over the last few years for two reasons. Firstly, after the Cold War, they thought that Russia had been defeated once and for all, and they're horrified to see that he's coming back. And secondly, they're worried that because of the rise of the war, China, the Americans, who are there, you know, the ultimate senior partners in this enterprise, are drifting away. They're more interested in China than they are in Russia. And that's spooking out the British because the British, obviously, are always more concerned in the end about Russia than they are about China. So it's not rational, but it's understandable.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, but China is big. China is a big threat at the moment. the biggest threat as far as economic parity or something like that. But I mean, Russia, the Russophobia is always much, much bigger. Yeah, it's the point about China.
Starting point is 00:08:13 There's something that's more. That's a lot more magnified with Russia. The hatred. Exactly. I mean, China is far away. It's all the way off in the Pacific. So it doesn't affect Britain as immediately as Russia does.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Russia is, you know, a power in Europe. And of course, the other thing for the British is, on the one hand, that makes Russia potentially more of a challenge to Britain than China will ever be. But secondly, it means that if the focus of the United States is on China, Britain becomes less important because Britain isn't able to contribute anything to the fight against China. Whereas to the fight against Russia, the British in their own fantasies, think that they can play a role. So that's why they are so obsessed with Russia. I wonder if there's anything to, to Tsar Nicholas and that time period as well. What, Zarr Nicholas the first or Tsar Nicholas the second? Yeah, because, of course, they do have a, they do have the British.
Starting point is 00:09:30 British royal family has a guilt complex about this because we now know that both Kerensky and by the way Lenin quite key to pack him off to London and the king King George V said no I'm not having Nicholas here in Britain very strange decision by the way never fully explained and they didn't just prevent Nicholas coming to Britain with his family, but they also took his money. I mean, he put most of his private in money, which is considerable in an account in the Bank of England, and the British seized it in circumstances that they've never clarified to this day. So yes, I think there is that. If you follow an American TV series called The Crown, by the way, which is all about the British royal family, the modern
Starting point is 00:10:28 British Royal family. There's a very famous sequence in it where the late queen skulls Boris Yeltsin about the fact that the Romanovs were killed in Russia and haven't been given proper burial. And you see after it, Yeltsin is absolutely furious. And he says, are you every, you know, we all really know, he's talking to himself basically. We all really know that the real place where the Romanovs were murdered was not in Yakutim book. It was in this very same palace that I'm standing in now. I think we have Garland with us. Excellent. Yeah. I think he's, he's in the waiting room one second. Let me pull him in. Hey, hey, Garland. Hello, Garland. Hello. How are you? Oh, good morning. I don't know. Did I have my time, right? I had it. Yeah. You know what? I was
Starting point is 00:11:27 telling Alexander, we had this last week as well because of the U.S. You guys switched your time? Yes. Yeah. I think we had the time. I think eight o'clock, your time, three o'clock. But the whole time switch of the U.S. and Europe has thrown the scheduling a bit, a bit off. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It doesn't matter. One second. Let me move one light. Yeah, yeah. Take your time. Yeah. So, I mean, it's actually, it's a wonderful scene. I mean, you had the queen there, you know, looking very, very,
Starting point is 00:11:57 pleased with himself because she's just scolding Yeltsin. And you see Lik Yolson sitting standing next to her, absolutely furious and talking in Russian and say, you know, how dare she lecture me, you know, when, you know, we know what the real thing is. And he says, you call this a palace. Come and see our palace is in St. Petersburg. You know, whenever he uses a very hard, very rude word that described Buckingham Palace. Just so, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And the translator, he's then asked, what, what is he say? if we know what the translator said oh well you say well you say well absolutely delighted he is to be here and of course he's not he's absolutely seething and of course it's it is he's bringing up the question of you know the lecture he's received about the murder of the romanos well we're uh i have all of garland information by the way everyone it's in the description box i'll have it pinned that's a comment when the stream is over we're just talking garland before we get into the the show about rusophobia In this case, we're talking about the UK in Russophobia in the UK, but in general, we're just talking about where does it come from. Where does the Russophobia come from?
Starting point is 00:13:07 What does it originate from? That's what we're discussing right now, yeah, which is an interesting topic. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I'm with Dr. Sachs on that. I've always felt that it was not related in any way to anything that Russia had done to any or any, or any, that it was neither religious nor ethnic nor ideological, that it was simply Russia stands in the way of hegemony.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And it was the same way for England. And it's been said many times by many different people. If you tell your populace, you must hate Russia because they are communist. And then they're no longer communists and you're saying, okay, well, fair enough. Now you should hate them because they're, at some point, you realize you're not giving them the real reason
Starting point is 00:13:54 because the reason to hate Russia works for the ruling elite, technically. It doesn't really work, but works for the ruling elite. But if the working class knew that they were being dragged along, you know, just for the reasons of hegemony that would never benefit them, they'd never go along with it. Exactly. All right. Well, let's keep on discussing what's going on with Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And anything else that's happening in the world? Alexander Garland, Project Ukraine. risk of collapse. I took that from the political article from the other day, which talked about how all of a sudden they're reporting about how Ukraine is collapsing. So Alexander Garland, let's get into it. Well, you know, my position from the beginning was that the, you know, because the question from the very beginning is, how does this end? How does this thing, you know, all, um, confronts. end at some point, even the infamous 100-year war. Well, at some point, 100 years was up and that war was over. So the question is always, how does it end? And generally, you know, some form of diplomacy or one of the two parties involved is simply defeated. I mean, those is your options. And the winner, you know, decides how the outcome will turn out. I think in this particular instance,
Starting point is 00:15:24 always felt that the way that Russia fights war dictates the way this ends. Certainly, since this conflict is not about Ukraine, that Ukraine is a political tool of the U.S. Empire, right? Then how it ends for Ukraine, the U.S. masters could care less. Ultimately, I thought that as long as they get, They don't care what happens to Ukraine. If at some point it gets smashed, they'll throw it aside like a piece of trash. As long as it weakens Russia enough, they'll be happy with it. I do feel as though the way Russia fights war is to chip away at the foundation of their adversary. And by that, I mean to the foundation of your army is your war material and your personnel.
Starting point is 00:16:17 So they chip away at your war material and your personnel until you can no longer fight. They exhaust your enemy until they're tired of fighting and they chip away at their ability to fight until at some point they can no longer fight. It's like chipping away at the foundation of a house. At some point, the house collapses. I also felt that the one of, well, that's what the Russians do, but one of the, I guess, added benefits of that for the Russians is that it would make it much more difficult for the hotheads in Washington. as the term that they've used to intervene. If you, I've heard it say this way, you don't want to do anything real quick in front of a crazy person. You know, you don't want to make a sudden dramatic move in front of a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:16:59 You want to move slow and steady. And if there was a sudden dramatic move, the neocons in Washington would be stunned and they'd have to make a sudden decision and they make really bad decisions when they make sudden decisions and even worse when they make slow decisions. But if the Russians were able to chip away at Ukraine's ability to fight, at some point, there would be nothing for the neocons to come in and support. They can't come in and say, we're going to support the army if there's nothing left of the army. We're going to support the infrastructure, whatever. If this thing all collapses and they look at it and they're like, we can't support them.
Starting point is 00:17:43 we would just simply have to send in an army to fight because there's nothing left of the Ukrainian military construct to fight. I think that's the way that I've always felt that that's the way this thing ends. And I don't know if it's the intent of the Russians, but because they fight the way they fight, I think that was the inevitable outcome. And I still think that's the inevitable outcome. I think this is absolutely typical of the way the Russians fight by the way. The Russians have been fighting wars or their history, they do have an enormous understanding and experience of war, which is much greater than that of any Western country today. And it is very, very much part of their sort of DNA that they know how to fight wars, especially when they're fighting wars on
Starting point is 00:18:32 their own territory. And it's important to remember that all the fighting that is going on in Ukraine at the moment is being fought on territory, which the Russians consider to be there as theirs. They consider Dombas to be theirs, Zaporosia-Harsson to be theirs, Crimea, of course, to be theirs. And even Kharkov region, I think deep down, they consider it to be theirs. The people that they're fighting amongst are Russians. They speak Russian, they're Eastern Orthodox, Russian Orthodox Slavs, and indistinguishable in every. every conceivable respect from Russians. And in every war that the Russians fight on their territory, they fight it against the army, what they see is the invading army, that they must defeat.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So this is one reason, I think, while they're less focused on capturing territory than, you know, we in the West tend to expect, because they are, they know that once they defecutive, defeat the enemy army, that territory will come back to them because it's theirs. So I think this is something which I don't think we quite grasped about what it is that the Russians do. So I think they're fighting it in entirely Russian way, which is very different, of course, for our own way, because we now in modern era tend to fight wars of conquest. They fight wars of defense, defending the motherland. And ultimately, that's exactly what they're doing in this particular war.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But I think the things have turned out in some ways differently, even from the way the Russians expected, in the sense that I think the Russians overestimated, our ability to keep Ukraine supplied with weapons. I think even the Russians themselves are astonished at their own success in our producing us. I agree. I mean, I think they also, the error that they made, and it wasn't a terrible error, was they assumed that they were dealing with rational adversaries and that they were dealing with people that had at least the ability to be good faith actors when backed into a corner that hey these people may not be good at faith actors but they're
Starting point is 00:21:07 going to be backed into a corner at Ukraine and at that point they can become good faith actors and I think the Russians have realized they're not dealing with rational people who even have the ability to be good faith actors when they need to be I also think and this is important because one of the discussions one of the term you know that there are terms that are used when we talk about these kind of conflicts, globalism, imperialism, things of that nature. I think they are really important. And I think the term imperialism is important. And one of the keys to the importance of that is that the neocons actually use that term.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They referred to Russia as an imperial war. You know, Russia is this is an imperial act. Why? Because they know the importance. They know what it is and they know the importance of the term and how negative it is viewed. But I think what we're talking about gives you the evidence, gives you some of the evidence of the issue of imperialism here. Here's what I mean. The U.S. What do empires do?
Starting point is 00:22:07 Quite simply, they expand and contract. An empire sees countries in two manners, nations that it has conquered and nations that it intended to conquer, nothing else, or a nation that it loses, right? And as empires die, they die, they, for a number of reasons, but they contract. They lose city-states and they lose countries and they lose grounds that they've taken. Okay. The U.S. Empire was expanding, expanding. And then what happened? When did it start contracting? I would argue Syria. Syria started to contract. Because it, okay, we're going to take Syria. We got our midst on Syria. And Russia said, nah, that's not going to happen. And the access of resistance, as you call it, came together with Russia. And they stopped. But maybe they didn't lose Syria, but they at least weren't able to expand into Syria. Right. One of the part of their expansion was Ukraine. They took. took that land. It was important to them. We took that from Russia. It has been said that Tony Blinken once
Starting point is 00:23:05 said, Ukraine is ours now. I've heard that from insiders, whether he said it, I don't know, but it makes sense now because that's an imperial thought. Hey, we're going to take this island, we're going to take this nation, et cetera. So from their perspective, they're always talking about will Russia take this town or lose this town, take this city or Russia wants Kiev. Why? Because through the context of how they see international politics, it's about seizing more. It's about expanding your empire or your empire contracting. So in reality, they were fighting two different wars. You know what I mean? Russia was fighting a military war, a defensive war on their border, on their territory, so they could militarily conquer their enemy. The neocons were fighting a
Starting point is 00:23:54 political war. That's why they used all, you know, they're going to use all of these political machinations such as the infamous soft power and they're going to censor people on the internet. They're going to write all kinds of articles. They're going to do things not on the battlefield because it was a political war. Even why the offensive. The offensive was a disaster. Why? Because my understanding is Newland had a big hand in it. She's a politician. So it was a political act, it wasn't a military act. And it had to fail because the other side has been fighting a military battle all along. And so that's why I think the issue of imperialism, Russia is now saying you will not expand at our expense on our border. And China is actually saying you will not expand
Starting point is 00:24:43 into Taiwan. We saw what you did in Ukraine. So the issue now with the U.S. Empire, why they're so desperate is, what they're really saying is, we have a right to expand anywhere in the world, anytime we want to, and we'll continue to do it. And Russia and China and other countries are saying, no. And I think that's the fundamental argument we're looking at. I completely agree. I think that is exactly right. I think that they are, that the Chinese and the Russians are, in fact, now increasingly setting out limits on what the United States can do. Now, we've had this article in Politico, in which all these Ukrainian military officers come along and tell Politico in effect that the war is lost. I've already said in various places that I believe that one of those military
Starting point is 00:25:30 officers is in fact none other than General Zilluzni himself, the former commander. It's completely consistent with his known thinking. And Politico tells us that some of these officers are connected to him in some way. And so, a public admission from within Ukraine by Ukrainian commanders that the war is effectively lost. And just after that Politico article appears, two things happened. It was quite interesting. Firstly, Biden calls Xi Jinping. And this apparently came out completely out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's the Chinese side did not expect it. There'd be no previous indications that Biden wanted to talk to pull Xi Jinping. If you look at the readouts that the two sides have produced, the American and the Chinese, the American readout is extremely uninformative, as they always are. The Chinese readout is more interesting. And you talked about, you know, setting limits and, you know, the Chinese now setting limits over Taiwan. It contains this word, these words,
Starting point is 00:26:55 this is a sentence from the Chinese readout about this call between Biden and Xi Jinping that has just happened. And it says this, President C stressed that the Taiwan question is the first red line that was not be crossed. In the face of Taiwan independence, separatist activities,
Starting point is 00:27:17 and external encouragement for them, China is not going to sit on its hands. That is, I think, the strongest warning that the Chinese have ever given to the Americans on the subject of Taiwan. It's absolutely clear. They're talking about that now as a red line. Now, the two readouts, the Chinese readout,
Starting point is 00:27:47 and the American readout give us some information. The Chinese readout gives us some information. But I understand that the internal Chinese media, which I can't read because it's in Chinese, but anyway, people who do speak Chinese are telling me that the speculation is China, is that Biden, who initiated the call, that there is no doubt,
Starting point is 00:28:12 called Xi Jinping principally to discuss Ukraine. the fact that the situation in Ukraine is going incredibly wrong. And they're linking it in China with a visit that Blinken has just made to Paris. The fact that he's there said, said all kinds of things like that the Russians will never take Kiev. And directly after Blinken's trip to Paris, something else happens, which is that the French defense minister Le Corneux telephones Shoygu. Notice not the foreign minister. They're not, the foreign minister is not calling Lavrov.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Macron is not calling Putin. It is the defense minister who is calling Shoygu. And it's a very interesting call because you can tell that Shoygu was on the receiving end. Again, the Russian readout reads on 3rd April 2024. at the urgent request of the French side. Minister of Defence Sergei Shoegu held a telephone conversation with French Defence Minister Sebastian Le Corneux. At the urgent request of the French side.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So where is the urgency? What is it that's making it so urgent for the French to call the Russians? And there's discussion of the Crocus City Hall attack. There's a very strong warning from Shoygu about the idea of sending French troops to Ukraine. He says, you know, that if that happens, he will create problems for France itself. Well, we know what that means. But then at the very end, the Russian readout contains these words. The sides express their readiness for dialogue on Ukraine. Now, this is, when you say the sides, that means Russia and France.
Starting point is 00:30:21 The starting points could be based on the Istanbul Peace Initiative. Without Russia's participation, it would be pointless, pointless to hold a meeting in Geneva. So my take of this, blinking goes to Paris, the Americans are very frightened. They don't want to talk to the Russians. themselves. So they get the French to contact the Russians. Le Corneux says, are you prepared to engage in a dialogue with us? That's to say with France. The Russians say yes. The French say, will you return to what was agreed two years ago in Istanbul? The Russians say no. That's what this basically says. It says we're prepared to take Istanbul as a starting point for future discussions.
Starting point is 00:31:19 But we're not going to agree to that again. So why the urgency? Why the urgency? Why the discussion of dialogue? Anyway, over to you, darling. A couple of things. I think I've felt this all along. I've said it's from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I feel that when the Russians come to the point, when they have their adversaries to a point where their adversaries must negotiate with them, that they will print out their December 17th, 2021 memo that said, we need to talk to you about NATO expansion. And yeah, when we first started, we may be could have talked about Ukraine. That doesn't matter because we've got that in the bag. Now, if you want out, remember that little memo we gave you with a number of points about NATO expansion, that is the only way that we will turn down the volume on this thing. Otherwise, we're going to take everything that we want and you can't stop us. And we know that you're bluffing militarily. We know that you don't have, what are the French going to come in, whether they got a dozen
Starting point is 00:32:36 howitzers or something or 50 or 100 tanks, that would last them an hour. So the Russians know the position that they're in and the NATO's bluffing militarily and it's trying to pretend as though it, you know, hey, remember that deal that we had that we walked away from? Can we have that deal now? And the answer is clearly, no, you can't. This is going to be now with the Russians. They want to clean this whole thing up at one time. They're going to say we have to deal with the sanctions have to all of them. All of the sanctions have to go and the issue of NATO expansion has to be dealt with. And I don't see politically where the Biden people can do that. So they're just going to sit down and have to sit back and watch this thing fall, you know, fall apart in their lap. I also think that the urgency is about the Middle East. The urgency is about they know that they are in a
Starting point is 00:33:36 world are hurt in the Middle East, that Israel has spun out of control. They can't control that mess, that they're afraid that on any given day that this thing could end up, you know, abroad and expanded war. They know the danger there. And particularly, they know that if that happens, that there's no chance. There's not much chance now if Joe Biden went in the election, But they know if that happens, oil prices go through the roof. And that's the one thing in America that no president has a chance of winning if the gas prices are, you know, eight or $10,000 a gallon. So I think the desperation is about the fear of expansion in the Middle East of the war.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And I think that from the other perspective, this is China and Russia could never be in a better position. They know that the U.S. is in a bad way. And now, China is not of a violent nature. If they were, they would take Taiwan right now because it is the perfect time because the U.S. couldn't engage in that fight. So, but I don't think they really, you know, I don't think they're of a nature to, you know, to start a war that they won't, unless they're absolutely backed into a corner they have to.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But I think they're signaling they're starting to feel back into a corner. And they're starting to feel powerful enough. They see the dynamics. We're getting more powerful. You're in a jam in Ukraine. You're in an even probably worst jam in the Middle East. And you don't know how to get out of it. And one of the things the Chinese is doing is they're tightening the screws.
Starting point is 00:35:16 As they start to say, you know, we're more likely to move. We're thinking about acting on Taiwan. That's a red line. They're tightening the screws. They're tightening down the pressure on the neocons. I think that's entirely correct. I should just add, I mean, you're talking about
Starting point is 00:35:30 the Russians or the Chinese feeling more powerful. Again, there's something I always keep an eye up for myself. We've got more economic figures coming up from Russia today. So GDP growth in January and February was 6%. GDP growth in March
Starting point is 00:35:53 apparently was 7.7.7. That's the estimate from the economics minister. So that gives you some sense of, you know, the kind of surge, economic surge that we're looking at. And this is fully in line, by the way, with the PMI numbers. So, you know, that's just, just say. And inflation does seem to be destabilized and there's some signs that it's starting to fall. So that, just to throw that in. quickly, briefly, there with the Russians.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But anyway, let's just focus on Ukraine, because I think that the urgency is partly about the Middle East, I agree. The urgency, I definitely think, is about the American election. I think that if you're talking about the people in Washington, this is always the overriding concern for them, quite apart from anything else. They don't want the Orange Man back.
Starting point is 00:36:51 That is a thing that they're all terrified about. They've all got themselves worked up into a state of over it. So, you know, that's another thing. So they don't want to collapse in Ukraine before November. But it looks like they might have a collapse in Ukraine before November. Because going back to that Politico article, it basically gives a date, actually. It says August, there's a Russian offensive in August. The Ukrainian lines won't hold.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And this is very much in line with what we've been saying on our respective channels now for some time, that eventually the Ukrainians are going to be ground down. They've received that they've been ground down. And I have to say, I think that a lot of the panic is because, I mean, they can do the mass in, well, maybe they can't do the mass approximately well in Washington and Paris. London and Berlin. And they can see that there aren't enough shells or drones or fighter jets or bombs that can make a difference. The Russians have more of them.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And this must be for Western leaders the single most shocking thing of all. I don't think at any point since the Second World War they have been put in their position. Yeah, I agree. They're learning that material industry and material things are far more important than narratives and magic money of derivatives and things of that nature. Because when they started, it was, we've got plenty of capital. We can pump all of this capital into Ukraine and we can defeat Russia by pumping unlimited
Starting point is 00:38:52 amounts of capital into Ukraine because we can print unlimited. amount of capital. Well, even now, they can still print plenty, even though, you know, the long-term effects notwithstanding, but there's nothing to buy with it because people can't make the shells and things of that nature. So they're learning, they're going that the world, ultimately that the importance of, you know, money represents sugar and rice and beef. And that ultimately you need sugar and rice and beef and the money, you can't eat money, you know. And that's what they're learning the hard way. So they can't defeat a Russia that still understands the conservative nature of Russia's culture is not just conservative when it comes to, you know, religion and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It's also conservative when it comes to how do you maintain the physical underpinnings of a society that allow you to keep going. you keep factories and you maintain them and you maintain your industrial power and you can grow food all of those again we get back to this the u.s.s. food and oil and things of that nature as political tools we're going to stop this country from growing as a political tool so they have to buy our stuff and we can inflate or deflate the prices and so it's an oil over here we're going to use oil so we can cut you choke you out so you can't get oh we'll raise the prices. So they're seeing these commodities as machinations for policy. Russians realize this. You can heat things with your energy. You know, you got to have food in case somebody comes to get you.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You got to have food set up for the winter. It's cold. You have to be prepared for the winter. So it's a conservatism that is a realistic kind of view of the world. You've got to have physical things. It just can't make this stuff up. And so they all, They're always physically prepared for the problems they're going to have. And now we're saying that that old school conservative, let's be ready for the winter, let's be ready for bad weather, is going to win out every time in the long term. And I think that, yeah, go ahead. Sorry. No, absolutely. I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And the other area where they're conservative is in debt. Because again, I mentioned a slew of economic figures. GDP, a debt to GDP ratio in Russia is 17%. 17%. I mean, the United States adds a trillion dollars. This is confirmed today. A trillion dollars of debt every hundred days, though. Russia's debt.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Apparently it's fallen, in fact, because again, the GDP is rising. So the GDP is growing faster than government spending. Right. Well, and basically the West's economy now runs off of debt. It doesn't run off of making things or digging things out of the ground. It runs off of debt. It has to have debt to survive. So since it runs off debt, the nature is to expand the debt, to keep looking for someone else to lend money to, to overthrow another country so you can lend money there and you can buy things. It runs off machinations that are all related to debt. So it only makes sense that sooner or later, the debt would run to a point in economic, you know, excuse me, industrial, excuse me, corporate debt, personal debt and government debt to a point where it's unmanageable. And as you already know, unpaidable debts don't get paid. So now they're in a position where they're backed into a corner economically. I think that another important thing about
Starting point is 00:42:43 Ukraine now that Russia is doing that shows that they smell blood in the water. And that is that they're after the infrastructure. They're going after the electricity. People talked about why the Russians didn't do that. Why do they allow them to have internet and all their electricity and blah, blah, blah. I think with the Russians, it was a timing thing. I think they wanted to get to a point where they got near the, where they saw a tremendous amount of weakness. They want to degrade the military capabilities and create some level of desperation, right, constantly with body shots, body shots, body shots and punching. And now they hit the electrical grid.
Starting point is 00:43:23 When things are terrible, they're falling apart on the battlefield. Now we're going to punch the electrical grid. And now we're going to give you a shot right to the chin. So I don't think that the Russians are reacting to something when it comes to going after the electrical grid and the infrastructure grid. I don't think that they're like, well, we're mad. So we're going to get revenge over crocus or this or that. I think it's a long-term plan that says at a certain point, When we have weakened you military to a certain militarily, boom, when the population starts rejecting the next mobilization, when you start having internal, when all the things start falling apart, whap, pow, that's when we're going to punch your electrical grid and we're, you know, and kind of yank the rug out of the whole operation.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I think that this is very carefully prepared and carefully thought out operation. has been prepared for a very long time. Gagland, you're American, you live in America. Are the American people psychologically prepared for a world in which the U.S.'s adversaries can out-produce it? The American... This has never happened before in American history. Well, I think what you have to understand about,
Starting point is 00:44:44 and something that's really coming to the forefront now, and that is the American people are starting to understand that the ruling elite in America don't represent their interests. You know, the American people in reality are just like everyone else. They're wandering around living their lives. They want to hang out with their families. They want to work. They want to send their kids to college. They want to do the same things as everyone else. So one of the things that the ruling elite has been able to do is as best they can, make sure that they're imperialist moves and government overthrowing and all the CIA. you know, undermining and of various people around the world, that that didn't affect the American
Starting point is 00:45:23 people. So they could do it. And the American people wouldn't feel the pain. And the American people could not enough that they would really know it. And they could go on about their lives because they knew the American people just kind of like everyone else, they want to go about their lives and live their lives and not feel that there's any, you know, not have any major problems. And what's happening now is the American people are starting to feel the pain. And they're getting upset. And what they're saying is, we want you to alleviate the inflation, the economic pain, the problems, the anxiety, and stress that we're having.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And you're not doing it. And now that the ability of the ruling elite to pursue their imperial machinations around the world without having that pain visit the American people is no longer present. And now the American people are starting to ask questions that they didn't. It's like, why is it hurt? Why does it cost so much? Why is this? And the answers have to do with foreign policy. I see now, as an example, and I've said this, I see now something I've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And that is there's a significant amount of support for Donald Trump in the black community in America. And it's funny because I heard I had someone who's Jamaican say to me, oh, I don't like Donald Trump. Oh, he called my country a, you know, asshole country, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. but I'm going to vote for him. And it had to do with economics. Well, it costs so much more to do this and that. And, you know, when I was, another friend of mine has a landscaping business, does well,
Starting point is 00:46:55 raises his family. He was talking to me about, well, gas costs so much now for my, you know, equipment and lawnmowers and all. Why, when Trump was there, it wasn't, they're starting to get this kind of romantic. Well, you know, when Trump was there, things were better off. And ultimately, you know, that's what people vote on. So I'm starting to see that in a community that is,
Starting point is 00:47:14 or one of the foundational constituencies of the Democratic Party. They lose the black community. They're, you know, it's game set and match. There's nothing left for the Democratic Party. They're not even barely a national party. So, anyway, go ahead. Your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Now, I mean, what would they say? Because, I mean, we've got all these adventures that are going wrong. Project Ukraine is going wrong. Middle East is going wrong. What would they say if the U.S. government now said, this is a situation where we have to intervene directly in order to restore the situation. You know, we've got to send more routes to the Middle East. We've got to say, send more boots to Eastern Europe, indeed, even possibly to Ukraine itself. There are some suggestions in Russia,
Starting point is 00:48:02 I understand, that the purpose of Le Corneux called Tishogu was to try to see whether the Russians might be prepared to stand back and allow French troops. into Ukraine, which, of course, again, I mean, they've got completely disabused about this. But, I mean, what would the Americans say if they were asked to do that this time? Would they say yes? Would they say no? Would it be a situation like we saw in the 60s over Vietnam, people protesting and coming out and opposing it?
Starting point is 00:48:30 What would the reaction be? You know, that's a very interesting question, because if you look at the dynamics right now in the polls, the people that support these wars the least, the people that, support the Biden administration the least are the people that they'd have they'd ask that they'd have to ask to fight the people 30 and under my god nobody 30 and under like Biden they despise him the younger people are furious over the Israeli conflict and what's going on in Gaza so for joe Biden and the administration to come to this group that hates them that hates these wars that have suffered the most economically the COVID shutdowns, who suffered the most economically, 30 and under?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Who's tied up with these unpayable college loans, 30 and under, right? To come to those people and say, we expect you to fight is an invitation for disaster. They'd tear this country apart. It wouldn't happen. Basically, most of them, I would argue, would just simply say, I'm not going to go. You're going to have to throw me in jail. I will not do. Now, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Are you going to jail tens of millions? are you going to jail tens of millions of people who are saying we're not going to go or we're going to go to Canada or whatever they're going to do. So the issue I think is that would be the ultimate example of this bumbling imperialist U.S. foreign policy coming home to visit the American people. And they do not have this support in any way, shape, or form for that. In fact, I'll go even further. the U.S. military is in decay for a number of reasons, not the least of which being the young people don't want to serve in the military because of the foreign policy. So they've got the people that they've got in the military now. What's going to happen as those people age out or get out because they're concerned? And as young people say, we're not going to go in. So they've got the military they have now to work with. But as far as going into fights where they're going to have to expect, that military, draft people, bring in more people. Well, good luck with that, because that's the end of any hope of civilization in America
Starting point is 00:50:43 because young people have burned the place down. I understand. It's very like Britain, by the way. I mean, one of the great myths about the fall of the British Empire is that, you know, the people in London, you know, suddenly woke up one day and decided that, you know, they didn't really want to be an empire anymore. They were going to start granting independence to all these various, countries. It wasn't like that at all. It was one of two reasons. Firstly, the United States
Starting point is 00:51:10 didn't walk the British Empire around because they said we should be the empire now. But the other one was that the British people weren't prepared to fight, to preserve the empire for the elite any longer. This is specifically very vividly the case in India where the British Army basically said the soldiers there said, you know, enough's enough. We want to go home. We don't want to be involved in this. And this was true right across the empire. It became impossible to maintain conscription. Conscription had to end in Britain in 1960. And the British public overall became in the 60s and 70s, as I remember very, very hostile to imperial events. and to attempts to preserve the empire in places like Yemen and Libya and all of those places as well.
Starting point is 00:52:11 So that was what brought the British Empire down. And it looks to me as if America is at the start of something similar. If I could add this, you know, if you look at Russia and China right now, the recent election in Russia, you know, you might as well say 100% for God's sake, it was darn unanimous in favor of President Putin. If you're going to mix it up with other world powers, you know, if you're going to be in a dynamic where the people are put in danger, right, you're going to have to deliver for the people. You're going to have to have them behind you.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So the Russian government has delivered for the Russian people. You know, the economy's growing. They have jobs. As we know, people go there. They open the supermarket and there's all kinds of beautiful green, fresh fruits all over the place at a reasonable price. You go to China. China is delivering over 90% support for the in the people, for the, you know, the government in China. U.S. polls show that. So these governments are delivering a job. They can raise their children. They can send their, they have a. a future, they're looking towards a better future, so they have the support. The U.S. government is not delivering for the people. And I put it like this, with Russia and China, even to take on an imperialist power like the U.S. They have to have buy-in. They have to deliver for the people to be even able to take them on so that what the U.S. Empire wanted, which was the people to turn against Vladimir Putin's leadership and take his government down, you have to deliver for the people or that could possibly happen. So since the Russians are delivering for the people on a day-to-day basis,
Starting point is 00:54:06 they've got a job, they feel somewhat safe, they feel like their government's there to protect them, they've got food on the table, reasonable energy prices, you're delivering, we're behind you. We're in here. They're not delivering for the American people. The American people are getting restive. They're getting angry. They're getting upset. So now the ruling elite is in no position to pursue a foreign policy that would require them to drag the American people in and put them out there to make the ultimate sacrifice because they haven't delivered for them. The U.S., the people in America have nothing to fight for. They have nothing to fight to protect. And they don't believe and trust the ruling elite in this country. They have been wholly discredited and they're only
Starting point is 00:54:54 going to get discredited again as they lose. They've got three current major conflicts going on, which is Russia, China and the Gaza conflict. And they're in the process of losing all three of them. Absolutely. Let's go back to Ukraine because that's the topic in a way of our program. How does the American elite react to the loss, to the failure of project Ukraine? Because that's now what we're seeing. I mean, we've seen this article in Politica, which is partly intended to inform the American elite that this is what's coming. How do they react to that?
Starting point is 00:55:33 I mean, this is something that, I mean, they must be getting a bit use now to foreign policy failures, But this is one against the Russians, you know, the old adversary. And it's in Europe, you know, very close to the heartland territories of our empire. And it's a technological war. You know, we've always thought that we were superior in technology. And it's the other side is using an air force. Like we use an air force and they're doing it perhaps even better than we do it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 So how does they react to this? Does it frighten them? Does it make them angry? Are they going to come back and say we've got to try and hit back at the Russians even more? Or do they say to themselves, we'll finally, do they finally say to themselves? Well, the moment has come for us to try and find some kind of understanding with the other side, because they're too strong. My suspicion has always been based on their record. They were in Vietnam for, you know, a decade or so. And they said, we can't possibly leave Vietnam. If we do, we do. you know, we're going to have the domino theory and, oh, the communists will come eat us and now everything will go bad. And at some point, things went bad in Vietnam. They left. What did they do in Afghanistan? They went on and we can't pop. It will be an incubator for terror and, oh, all kind of terrible things. We can't ever leave there because of terrorism, blah, blah, blah. They woke up on a given Tuesday. They left. And bad news, well, really good news, actually, but I'll put it like this. for the ruling good news for the people of Europe, bad news for the ruling elite who have stuck their neck out so far on this thing. At some point, the ruling elite in Europe are going to say,
Starting point is 00:57:20 what are we going to do? And they're going to say, what do you mean we? We are going back across the pond and calculate our next diabolical scheme. As for you, you know, call us. Have a nice day. Hope you figure this thing out. Oh, by the way, we've got some more shipments of LNG. at five or six times the price. That'll keep coming to you. See, you have a nice day. It is my belief for all of those who believe that the United States will put the U.S. in danger and danger of nuclear war. The U.S. is not going to sacrifice anything for Europe or Ukraine or Eastern Europe.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They're going to walk away from this thing and leave the Europeans holding the bag. I argue, I've argued this all along. If the Russians were to attack the Balkans, which there's no possibility of that, but just for the sake of argument, if they were to attack the Balkans tomorrow and dash them the pieces, the U.S. wouldn't invoke Article 5. The U.S., they wouldn't sacrifice a fingernail for these people. Proxy militaries are there as cannon fodder. That's the job of Ukraine. And when the cannon fodder runs out, the U.S. is not supplying to cannon fodder for them, not for Europe, not for the Balkans, they're there for themselves, and they're not going to go in and fight for anyone. That is my opinion. The neocons are not coming into Ukraine. They're going to walk away. They'll leave everybody holding the bag and move on to their next diabolical scheme. So they'll internalize it and just move on to the next one. They'll come up with articles of how they didn't really lose and you know how it is and how this hurts the Russians worse.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And now Europe is really going to be, you know, blah, blah, blah. And it's more important that we deal with China right now and on and on, everything else in the world, but they're going to walk away. They always do. Why would they do something different? Yeah. And America can. That's the thing. I mean, it has that exorbitant privilege to Ms. Guzis.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You know, their strength has always been, as has been stated, they're a country with insignificant powers to the north and west and fish to the, I mean, to the north and south and fished. to the East and West. That's their strength. And when in doubt, that's the strength they're going to play. Oh my gosh, we started messing a chaos over here. We're going to go home. Good luck fixing it. That's the game that in the end, the strength is we're a long way from the action, and that's the strength that they will ultimately play. What should Europe do? I mean, here we see. I mean, I'm convinced of this that the French defense minister is acting as the messenger boy for the Americans and calling Russia. But what should the Europeans do? I mean, you know, it's not turning up very well for us at all. I mean, you know, we have the Russians on our doorstep. We've antagonized
Starting point is 01:00:16 them. We're short of gas. If you spend any time in Europe, you know what that means. Do we move away from the Americans? Do we huddle even more closely to them? Do we talk to the Russians? What should we do? I think we've got two, that's sued two separate questions because you've got the ruling elite of Europe who have completely, you know, given their souls over to the neocons who will be left holding the bag. And even after this is over, their concern is not the concern for the masses of the working class anyway. They're, you know, how can, oh, no, the U.S. empire is falling. Macron has said things like, well, we need our own European army and we need our own Europe.
Starting point is 01:01:00 He wants, his thing I think is, or the ruling elite of Europe is we want to be, since the U.S. empire is falling, we want to be the new empire and we want to come in and we want to be able to do all of the things that the U.S. used to be able to do, but they can't do anymore. That's the ruling elite. I think that the working class people in Europe, the everyday people in Europe, are going to wake up and begin to kick these people out of office. Something is interesting too, because, People who are conservative have argued, yes, this is going to go to the right. Europe is going to go completely to the right. Look at George Galloway. George Galloway is an avowed socialist. And I saw people online who were conservatives saying, yeah, I voted for him because, you know, I didn't, I wanted something different. So I think, and, and look at the two people in the East, the guy in Slovakia, I think, Fita, Fista, whatever that's pronounced, and Victor, and Victor Orban. to people who you would think ideologically don't get along and they're, I'm not going to say they're the best of friends, but when it comes to looking out for the needs of their country, they are aligned, maybe not ideologically, but aligned from the perspective of what's the job of the government to look out for the interest of the people of its country. So I think that there will be a combination of some countries are going to get leaders to the left, some countries are going to get leaders to the right, but people aren't going to be
Starting point is 01:02:27 looking necessarily for a leader who aligns ideologically with everything they want, but they're going to be looking for a leader that they feel is independent. And that's, it's going to go from, we got to go hard right, we got to go hard left to who's independent of the U.S., who wants some level of independence and sovereignty. How can we get leadership that looks out for our people? And I think that's what I learned from watching what happened with Galloway. I think that's a, shows that the future in Europe is going to be not a, and even then, traditional right and left, the definitions of them are changing. Here I am a traditional lefty, far lefty, but when it comes to a lot of things, I'm aligned with some libertarians. I work with conservatives, some Trump
Starting point is 01:03:16 MAGA people. We all get along really good because in the end, we believe that the job of the government is to look out for the needs of the people first and foremost. And I think that's the new it's not even right left. That's the new ideological alignment. People who want a government who looks out for the people. And they're not going to be as concerned with traditional right and left as they are going to be with traditional structures of power and representation. I think it's entirely right. I think it's also true in Germany, by the way, where we see the Saravagan-X movement and the IFTA. And they're both growing. Interesting. it was assumed that Sarah Varganek would take votes from the IFD.
Starting point is 01:03:58 She doesn't seem to be. She seems to be taking votes from the Greens and from the SPD at the moment, from what I can understand. So, you know, this is an interesting phenomenon, but you're absolutely correct. And in some respects, they complement each other in Germany as they do in Britain. And you're perfectly correct in Britain, many people who historically would have considered themselves conservatives are happy that Galloway has been elected to the British Parliament because they find themselves much closer to him on many issues now and much more able to
Starting point is 01:04:35 understand him than they understand people within the so-called Conservative Party. So just just just just saying so I think you're absolutely correct. Well, we are at a strange times in some ways in the world, very complicated and dangerous times too. Is there anything, is there any, because we've had a rather optimistic program overall, is there any danger that things could go horribly wrong? But seeing things getting out of control,
Starting point is 01:05:08 sensing that they're in an end of empire moment, they might decide the people in charge in Washington, does that make sense in Europe, let's go for broke. Let's go all out. Let's try something big, and desperate. And if it works, well, we bought ourselves another 20 years. And if it fails, well, you know, we all go down together. I mean, some countries have done that to themselves.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Japan did it in 41. Germany obviously also did it. Is there any risk that something like that might happen? I don't think there is at least until the election. I think that the U.S. election is going to, to be something that ties the hands of the Biden administration. I think they're going to be very much afraid of doing something that would cause them to lose big. They take a big chance. It doesn't work out well. And then they're completely destroyed. And let's not forget, you've got Biden and Blinken and Sullivan and people who having infuriated and Trump in charge him with everything. But Mopri on the high seas, they understand that should he come to power, he may be looking for He may be looking to sick his DOJ on them and their hands are really dirty.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He's not, you know, any competent investigator is not going to have to look long to find a litany of crimes when it comes to the Biden administration and the things that they've done in you, I will guarantee you this. In the Biden administration right now, there are probably numerous people who, if given the opportunity, would be happy to start singing about the things that they know. and they've opposed for the last four years. So they're horrified of losing and similar to Netanyahu. who, you know, they're afraid of going to jail. Should they lose?
Starting point is 01:07:00 I think that's something that's going to restrict them at least until the election from doing anything major. That being said, if there's any danger, it's a danger of incompetence. It's a danger that they could stumble, that they could make an error. They're like, oh, well, we'll do this. This isn't much. It'll be okay. And it ends up being something major that, you know, even particularly on the coast of China,
Starting point is 01:07:24 that they could do something, that China finally says, okay, that's a red, deadline, we're going to act, and China ends up taking some kind of a military action against a U.S. installation or something like that. So I think a foolish move is more likely than an intentional move that gets out of control. I do think, of course, that, you know, as you know, the big concern right now is how is Iran going to respond to what's happened? I think people are holding their breath. I do believe this. in the same way that the Russian, when it comes to the Krokus attack, that the Russians are not going to do anything foolish, that the Russians are not going to allow that to distract them from their plan that is working. You know, I think they're going to, the Russians have a military plan in Ukraine and that plan is working.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And I don't think they're going to look at the Krokas attack and say, well, we're furious now. We have to throw hypersonic missiles in a remedi or something. That's not what they're going to do. I think they're going to pursue it in a legal fashion, internationally legal. Who knows they may end up at the UN court presenting evidence, whatever the case may be. But I don't think the Russians will be distracted from their winning strategy. I also believe that the Iranians are carefully coordinating with the Russians and the Chinese, that there are discussions. So even the Iranian attack may be through a proxy.
Starting point is 01:08:55 You know, it may be whatever they do, I suspect, you know, who knows, maybe Yemen will show up with some nice new missiles that can, you know, cause further damage than the ones that they have. I think they will, they're going to act, but I don't think it'll be an outright punch in the face that the Israelis can use to expand this thing. And I believe that the leaders of Russia and China and Yemen understand the inextricable link between the three conflicts and that they're treating these as one conflict and that the three will come together and they will decide upon Iran's, you know, certainly it's Iran's region, et cetera. But I think they will consult the other powers because let's face it, Iran needs Russia. They need China. And so I think it will be a, it will be green lit by their partners, whatever they do. I agree. I think it's also important to point out that the Chinese and the Russians, they may not need Iran, but it is important to them.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I mean, they will not want the Iranians to run off and do something reckless, which might hurt Iran, because that will hurt Russia and China as well. So, I mean, they are all in it together in a kind of sense. And I think that one of the great features of Iranian policy since the events of the 7th of October is that the Iranians have shown astonishing discipline and restraint. And I think they will continue to do so because it is playing out to their advantage. So, I mean, I think they understand perfectly well that the Israelis are trying to provoke them. So the best way to deal with that is not to be provoked. This is my own view.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Yeah, I also think that I don't want to underestimate the value of the Iranians either because, you know, location is important. And their location, one of the things I think the Russians and the Chinese understand now is that these two choke points, Bob and al-Mand-Dab Strait and going into the Red Sea and the Straits of Hormuz, that those are Iran's choke points. Iran owns those choke points, and they can open them and close them at will, and that is extremely powerful. I also think that if you look what's happening now, the Russians,
Starting point is 01:11:26 you know, I recall the leader of North Korea coming to Russia, and he ended up at the Roscosmos Space Center wandering around with Shogu, and now every time you turn around, The North Koreans are trying another new missile with solid fuel and they're putting another satellite in the sky. I think the Russians have learned from the Iranians, if learned is the right way to put it, that the importance of having allies and arming your allies and putting your allies in a position to put pressure on your adversaries. So I think that in this, one of the brilliant, the Iranians, the people who invented chess had played absolute brilliant chess in the Middle East utilizing and arming their allies. We can see that from Yemen.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And I think the Russians are now looking at that. Another thing that's critical, the Russians now are starting to whittle away at the international sanctions on North Korea. The Russians are, I think, planning on getting rid of those sanctions on North Korea. They understand the importance of North Korea, again, like Iran, where it sits and the alliance that it has with China. And so I think that the Russians are starting to do the Africa. I'm reading that some of the African countries are saying, yeah, we're starting to receive missiles and all kind of things. They won't say who they're getting it from. So I think the Russians also are learning from the Iranians, if that's the right word,
Starting point is 01:13:04 the importance of empowering your allies militarily and economically so you have a broader reach. So I think that the Iranians have been extremely important in this international conflict, wherein the neocons are at war with the world. I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right about this. I think the one thing I will say is that I do agree with you that one should never underestimate the possibilities for incompetence and stupidity and panic. anger on the part of some of these people in Washington. I mean, you know, they, they are, well,
Starting point is 01:13:40 you know, no reverse gear. I mean, it's on you shirts, just to say. There's always, there's always that potential there. There's always that inclination from them there. And, you know, one should never underestimate the risk from that. But overall, I think you're right. I think we are getting through. In fact, I suspect actually that we probably turn the corner, certainly in Ukraine. I think the way the Russians have run it means that I think we have turned the corner in Ukraine. Middle East, not more to worry about China. The Russians are now drawing their very clear red lines. But I think that, as I said, the risks are less great than, you know, they might have been, appeared to be a few weeks ago, just saying. And I also agree, by the way, just to just in
Starting point is 01:14:32 for emphasis, about all the points that you made about, you know, the crimes in Washington are all there to see. And of course, just to remind everybody that Garland, you've been an actual investigator. I've never been an investigator. I've been the person who's read reports from investigators, but I've never actually done it myself. So, but I'm sure you're right. I'm sure that any investigator, you know, offer the opportunity to investigate some of the, you know, these things, well, they would have lots and lots and lots of material on their hands, because other of these things have been done, frankly, you know, in clear view, quite remarkable, actually. So anyway, this is where I finish. I think we've had a great, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:18 run through things, and specifically with Ukraine. If you're all right to stay, Garland, I'm going to hand over to Alex, and I think he probably has some questions to us. Certainly. I've got some time. Good some time. Great. A lot of questions. Garland, but let me pick out some questions to throw at you here. Latimerrault says, gentlemen, hello, and what do you all think about the recent revival of Havana syndrome in U.S. media, Garland? Is it part of political propaganda? Why now? I think it shows desperation to some extent. I mean, it's absurd. You know, it's ridiculous. And I mean, it is, to me, it shows that they're looking for anything they can to throw at the Russians, you know, shotgun effect, throw everything against the wall and see if something sticks. This has no intrinsic political value. People can, it just keeps people busy. It's like chewing gum for the brain, basically. So I think it demonstrates desperation. They're looking for something to throw at the Russians. They don't have anything. So they look, do we have anything? Oh, we got to survive. Okay, give me Havana syndrome. We'll go with that if we don't have anything else. That's the way it comes across to me.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Can I just quickly add on that? I think it's also directed to Trump, actually. I think this is like, you know, the Taliban bounties story, that the Russians were paying bounties to the Taliban. You remember how that was used during the 2020 election. I can very easily see Havana syndrome being sort of brought up here, you know, asking Donald Trump questions like, you know, are you going to stand up to the Russians? over Havana syndrome. Trump says, this is absurd, this is ridiculous. And they say, ah, well,
Starting point is 01:17:04 that proves that he's soft on the Russians. And he's following Vladimir Putin's orders. So I think there's some element of that in this as well. The other thing I'd have to comment is, I think it's something else that demonstrates that the ruling class, the political class in the U.S. are totally and completely out of touch with the working people. Average people are concerned about the cost of a pack of chicken wings.
Starting point is 01:17:29 what I mean? average people are concerned with their basic things and they're trying to come up with these, you know, imaginary, if you think about it, even if it was true, it's not the average person on the street that's affected. What they're saying is somebody's doing something to members of the ruling elite class, to the diplomats that we send, to the CIA, their suffering headaches and, you know, discomfort in their stomach. Isn't that horrible? And most people would say, yeah, the discomfort in my stomach is, I can't afford to put any food in it. They're not concerned. They're not concerned. So it shows they're out of touch, even if it were true. The average person could care less. They want to look out for themselves and their family. So it shows just how
Starting point is 01:18:12 out of touch these people are. It's absurd. And it's going right over that. Yeah, I don't see. I'm in America. I haven't heard anybody on the street, anybody I know, any friends say, hey, Garland, what about Havana syndrome? What are we going to do about that? It doesn't happen. It's a conversation they have amongst themselves. And then they say, oh, we've got a good one. Let's run with this. And the people on the street don't even hear them. Right, go right over their heads. Come on, Garland, you're telling me you don't go to the bar or the pub. And the minute you walk in, everyone's like, Garland, man, we've got to talk about the Savannah syndrome stuff. Come on. Exactly. Listening for it. Do you hear the buzzing? I don't know. How about me? How about you?
Starting point is 01:18:53 Oh, boy. Sparky says, great to have Garland Nixon back from vacation. Thank you, Sparky, for that. From Elena, question to Mr. Nixon. Is people in the USA discussing the fact that actions of Israel are not open for criticism, as shown with the sacking of Candace Owens? If yes, what is the opinion of the people? Constantly. The issue of free speech is a major discussion here. Is Israel at this point not possible? amongst the general public. And the numbers are just continually to, you know, the number of people that support what's happening in Gaza
Starting point is 01:19:35 is continuing to fall. What is interesting about the U.S., and that is I'm seeing a phenomenon that I don't normally see. Mainstream media, the neocon media that acts on behalf of the Biden administration and on behalf of the intelligence communities are now starting to report things
Starting point is 01:19:52 from the Middle East conflict that would not normally be reported. So it's interesting. I don't know what that's about. But, you know, when it comes to Ukraine, oh, you know, the Russians are out of missiles and, you know, you turn on CNN the usual. They're out of missiles. The Ukrainians are advancing on Red Square. You know, you get the usual propaganda. But when it comes to Israel, there's some truth slipping through there and a good bit more. I'm not sure what that's about, but I find that surprising. So Barano, Brazil says, do you think the plan to drain? European Union resources for the war against Russia will be approved and kept as NATO's
Starting point is 01:20:33 chief mentioned. It's the hundred billion. Will NATO control Europe's armies against Russia? Yes. I felt all along the reality is this. The only thing that can stop the deindustrialization if it can be stopped and the complete impoverishment of Europe is the European people. The ruling class is,
Starting point is 01:20:57 100% on board with the neocons. They could care less about their people. So whatever they're told to do by the ruling elite here in the U.S., they're going to, by their economic class, their ruling class, they're on board with it. If the working people, if the voters of Europe decide that they want to act through voting and or through, you know, taking to the streets and the various things that they've done, they can change this. And I always bring this up in John Bolton's book, he said that basically the neocons viewed China as their top economic adversary and problem and issue. And the EU, the European bloc is number two.
Starting point is 01:21:46 So realistically, the neocons have been trying to take out Russia, China, and the EU. And they've been successful economically taking out. the EU, not so much on the others, but from one perspective, they can look at it and say, we have had some success in this Russian conflict, in that one of the three powers that we wanted to really destroy, we've been able to do that. And the ruling elite have gone right along with it. Keep Germany down one of NATO's goals. Yeah. John Roberts says, love this discussion. What role do you think third party candidates will play in the U.S. presidential election this year. Will they hurt Biden or Trump more? A couple of things. RFK Jr. just picked,
Starting point is 01:22:31 I forgot the woman's name. But bottom line is there are a lot of people complaining saying, oh my gosh, you know, conservatives that had considered voting for RFK are saying, why he picked her? And she comes across as a member of this liberal class that we are very reticent about trusting. this was a big boon for Trump because a bunch of conservatives now that would have voted for RFK are going to look at him and say, no way, I don't trust him now. He's gotten one of these Google people, et cetera, and they're going to go back to Trump. RFC Jr., because he hasn't, you know, pushed for a peaceful resolution in the conflict in Gaza has significantly hurt him. I would argue, that he'd be in first place if he get if he if his position were even moderate on gaza he'd be in
Starting point is 01:23:28 first place so i do think that one of the possible outcomes that isn't discussed that is a potential outcome and that is that if neither of the candidates get 270 electoral votes um which is what third parties could do so they could come in and they could get enough electoral votes that neither of the parties get 270 and then of course it goes to the house of representatives and we go from there. But I think that third parties are going to be significant. And they're going to be significant in the electoral process in the things that Biden and Trump have to do to address the danger of third parties, how they have to run the policies that they have to push. They've got to look at what a Joe Biden or whoever, excuse me, what JFK Jr. or whoever, what they're doing,
Starting point is 01:24:20 the things that causes their numbers to go up or down and how they need to latch on to some of those policies or reject some of those policies based on that. So I think third parties are going to be very, very important, critical, more so than ever before, more so since I believe it was 1990 with Ross Perrault. Ross Perra. Sparky says elites nowadays have let their countries down with incompetence like they did in the austere UK in the 1960s and 70s with the added bonus of being evil. I would put it differently. I would argue that they they haven't let the people in a way, in a way, the people that they represent, they're not letting them down. I think what's happening is that people, the average working class, regular old citizens, you know, the voters out here are
Starting point is 01:25:11 starting to understand a reality. And that is that the ruling elite don't represent them. that the ruling elite, you know, there's an old joke. I don't remember how it is, but what exactly it was, but I can paraphrase it where they say, basically, the politicians tell the poor people, we're going to protect you from the rich, and they tell the rich people, we're going to protect you from the poor, right? There's an old joke about that.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I don't remember, but you get what I'm going to. The reality is this. They're there to mitigate that anxiety between the poor and ruling elite, number one, on behalf of the ruling elite. So simply the people are starting to learn the truth, just like in Europe, the people in Europe are starting to understand. We don't have independence and sovereignty. We're just colonies of the United States. And our leaders are governors as, you know, or whatever they would call them during the British Empire, right?
Starting point is 01:26:06 Our leaders are governors of these colonies. And we want independence and sovereignty. And now they're going to, they're looking for independence and sovereignty. It's in the same way that I think Europeans are starting to understand that their ruling class represents someone other than them and is acting detrimental to their interest. I think that's what the American people are starting to understand. So it's not a matter of the ruling elite letting us down. They never represented us. And now we're starting to learn we have to either, you know, we have to get them out and bring in some people who represent us.
Starting point is 01:26:44 One more. One more for Garland. It's from Sobarano, Brazil. You believe Israel will drag USA to a conflict in the region. Israel is saying it is going to get into Lebanon. Is it good for the USA to hold more ground in the region, considering China and Russia are investing there? A couple of things. I think Israel, well, here's what's interesting. Israel and Ukraine both. Both of them understand that they have no chance. unless they drag the U.S. into their war, right? Both of them are at the same point. Both of them are at a point where they've clearly lost based on what their objectives were in the first place, right? And they cannot ever achieve the objectives they want. You know, we're going to take back Crimea. We're going to push all the way to, you know, to the Pacific coast of Russia, whatever, right? And we're going to defeat Hamas and we're going to push Hezbollah back to the Latani River and on and on and on. Well, they know they're they can't do those things. And now they both know the only chance they have of even survival is to bring the U.S. in to fight for them. But the U.S. doesn't have the wherewithal to fight all over the place. And it's something I think is important. One of the things that was discussed earlier when the U.S. sent this gigantic flotilla to the Middle East. And that was the Pentagon said, we're having trouble paying for this. It's extremely expensive. So the U.S. right now,
Starting point is 01:28:14 has this, all of this money has gone into Ukraine, really economically hurt them. But they're pumping all of this money into, they just built some base on an island, the Yap Island, right? $400 million. Meanwhile, they've got to keep an armada floating in Israel. So one of the issues right now is the U.S. really can't afford. How long can the U.S. afford to float two and a half wars? So the U.S. is in deep and serious trouble economically.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And I think its allies feel like, you know, it's like someone who says, my dad's rich, he can buy me anything I want and he's got unlimited money. And their dad's like, God, not exactly. I'm starting to run out of cash. I think that's part of it here. Nobody talks about the actual physical economic cost just to buy fuel, buy bombs, pay soldiers. That stuff is real. And it's getting really expensive for the U.S. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Fantastic. Garland Nixon, thank you very much for joining us on this live stream. I have Garland's information, his YouTube channel, I believe Rumble as well, correct, Garland? Yes, someone, yes. Rumble and Rockfin. Also, I have all that information in the description box down below, and I will add it as a pin comment as well. Garland, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Anytime. Thank you, Galen. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Take care.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Great show. Great show. All right. Alexander, let's answer the rest of the questions. Do you have the energy? Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's do it. From KL. I listen to this channel and military summary the most. And when Alexander gives it credit, I knew this place is legit.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And thank you, Valies. Thank you. Thank you, Valies. Yes, I agree with that. Peter says, will a Biden loss be the ultimate Zelensky curse? Yes, actually. It would be. No question.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Sparky says two Durand live streams in the same morning. We are blessed. Thank you, Sparky for that. Peter says the U.S. wants this to last until after the elections. Why would Russia not want to finish it sooner to prevent a Biden win? Well, I think that the Russians are going to take their time to do it correctly. I mean, they're not going to let the American political calendar to determine their military action.
Starting point is 01:30:58 It might end before the election, by the way. Zishan, thank you for that super sticker. Monty 105 says, going back to the live stream with Professor Sacks, to what extent, in your opinion, is the hatred towards Russia in the world? West caused by the whole filibate controversy. That's an interesting question. The religious one, the religious one. I think there is an element of this.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I think it became particularly strong. You know, in the 16th century when, you know, Russia began to assert itself as an independent power and Ivan the Grosny, Ivan the Terrible, as we call him in the West, not a correct translation of his name, by the way. announced himself that he saw of Russia. And that meant that you had a new power emerge in Europe, which was distinct from Western Christianity.
Starting point is 01:31:54 So I think it has been there. I think it's always played a certain role. You know, it's waxed and waned. It was very important, by the way, at the time of the Crimean War, just saying. I mean, one of the things that the British were able to do was that they were very successful in mobilizing the Catholic powers against Russia, Austria and France. But I think that today in this post-Christian world that we're starting to see in the West, it's ultimately geopolitics and other factors. Lover of the Russian team says it's total madness, all this blind hatred. towards Russia.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Completely agree. Mama Alaska says, Great to see Garland. So proud of the Duran. Thank you for that. Sammy 295 says, Yay, welcome Garland and Duranians. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:32:52 OMG puppy says some more support. Thanks for your interesting answer to my previous super chat. I just read about the Volga Don Canal. Remarkable. Yeah. Absolutely. Danco says, very insightful guys,
Starting point is 01:33:06 as always. Maria S. says, thank you gentlemen following every day from Denmark. Martin, thank you for that super sticker. Elena says, let's imagine USA faces vulcanization in the future. What state would end up with the nuclear weapons? Who is the natural Russia of the USA? Well, I mean, that's a very interesting way.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I mean, there isn't one, is the short answer. I mean, Russia dominated the Soviet Union. It was accounted for, was it, two-thirds of its territory, three-quarters of its territory, more than half its population. something like 60% of its GDP. There is no equivalent of the United States. What you might see, and you know, I don't really like to speculate about these things, because to be clear, I do not want to see America fragment and organize.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Well, what you might, I suppose, see is particular sections of the U.S. The regions start to assemble. So New England, for example, the Midwest. who knows something like that yeah your your answer is basically there's there's no equivalent to what russia was to the soviet union no no yes yeah it's true uh elza says yelen is in china telling the industry what it should and shouldn't do sounds like she had some mushrooms again yeah i agree with that i mean it's just it's just absurd and what you know she goes along tells the lecture lectures the chinese and who's economy
Starting point is 01:34:37 on basis of purchasing parity is bigger than that in the US. I mean, it must sound very strange to the Chinese, actually, to be lectured in that way. But the Americans assume that they can do this. By the way, there was an extraordinary article in Asia Times by a man called David Goldman. He's a very interesting man. He gets invited to all the big security meetings. And he's done another brilliant sketch of one. and he says that China can produce 4,000 cruise missiles a week,
Starting point is 01:35:11 which is more than the entire American arsenal of cruise missiles. Now, I have to say, I found that figure so staggering that I just wonder whether it can possibly be true. But, you know, I made a few inquiries, and I've told it can. It probably is. Custer Pye says, it's scary if our president, Johannes, might be the NATO chief. he is the same or worse puppet than Stoltenberg.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Yeah, I agree with that. From Rumble Lerka-Perka says, is there a will and enough force on the part of Iran to save Armenia, or is saving Armenia a lost cause? It's as far as the Iranians are concerned, it's a lost cause. I mean, the point is, and I think a lot of countries sympathize with the Armenian people, but nobody sympathizes or likes passion.
Starting point is 01:36:05 outside the NATO It's such a weird dynamic. Yeah, absolutely. Machinian is such a weird dynamic. You go to Armenia many times and you can't find one person saying one good word about the guy. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yet he's been in power for a long time. Absolutely. All right. Summer of 1970 says thanks, Duran and Garland. Mathes says a new Russian outpost near the Golan highs India's India news. Yeah, this is true, but I think this is a precautioning move. I don't think this is intended as a move of escalation.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I think it's intended by the Russians to try to sort of sober people down and to make them think, well, look, don't escalate because the Russians are there now. Sebastian, thank you for that super sticker. Zahar, thank you for that super sticker. Sebastian, thank you again for that super sticker. Tabernak says, shall we fight with peaceful means, limits are set. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Very good comment there. From Soberano, Brazil, do you think that other countries will fight Russia as proxies too, like Ukraine, or will it be with mercenaries or both? I don't think any other country is going to want to take on Russia after what they've seen happen in Ukraine. I mean, I think the one thing that has happened over the last year since the especially since the failure of the Ukrainian offensive of the summer, is that people have come to understand
Starting point is 01:37:41 that the Russian army is a very, very serious adversary to take on. And I think people are not, armies around the world, especially NATO armies, are not too keen to tangle with it. Sparky says, who would have thought the industrialization would turn out so badly? It seemed like a good idea at the time. Oh, it was a brilliant idea.
Starting point is 01:38:04 We all knew that it would turn out splendidly, but, you know, something somewhere mysteriously has happened, which just doesn't make sense. D-Tedra 7 says, everyone, please go listen to the international Jew by Henry Ford. Okay. Neo-McCarthius says, seems like NATO will double down and enter soon. Operation steadfastest defender nearby, French equipment and troops prepped. and other signing security agreements and Trump's looming reelection? I don't think so, actually. I think this is a lot of talk, a lot of bluff.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I think that the Americans have made it very clear that they're not going to participate in any venture in Ukraine. In fact, they're angry with Macron for bringing up this topic. I think the Germans are the same. I think in Germany there would be a very strong reaction. We've just heard what from Garland, what the reaction would be in the US. I think the same is true as Britain.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I don't think there's going to be any real intervention by NATO in Ukraine that goes beyond what we've already got, which is actually quite a lot, really. I mean, there's quite a lot of NATO personnel in Ukraine already, and we see that they're not making any difference to the war. Ricardo Afonzo, think of that super sticker. So Badano Brazil says, what do you think about Poland?
Starting point is 01:39:29 Where are they heading? Do they want to be the next Ukraine? Many, many polls ask themselves that question. And the answer they overwhelmingly give is no. I think at the start of this conflict, at least at the start of the special military operation in 2022, there was a huge amount of rallying in Poland. They would get to support Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:39:55 You know, the fears of Russia, the ancestral tensions with Russia, were reawakened. But I think with every week and month that passes, I think Polish opinion is solidified against getting further drawn into Ukraine to the astonishment and dismay of Poland's leadership. So you saw that the previous party, the Law and Justice Party,
Starting point is 01:40:21 very strong on behalf of Ukraine at the beginning and that they completely sound on the project towards the end. And I think the new government, Donald Tusk's government, is going through the same process. So Tursk still talking about, you know, we're in a 1939 moment and all of that, but the officials around him are saying Poland is not sending troops to Ukraine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Ricardo Alpanzo says there's always, there are always all the migrants they can use for wars. Yeah, they can try. But I mean, migrants are not particularly motivated soldiers. So, you know, it's probably not going to be a hugely popular enterprise amongst the, actual people of these countries to see their armies in that, operated in that kind of way, and being led into wars
Starting point is 01:41:09 which the people of these countries don't want to see. Klaus Battena says, I doubt NATO will collect the 100 billion. I agree with that, actually. It's another fantastic scheme, rather like President Pavel's scheme to buy 800,000 shells from the international arms market,
Starting point is 01:41:28 which exactly as we predicted on the Duran is already falling apart. Sparky says what's different between now and the U.S. war in Vietnam is if people dodge the draft by going to Canada nowadays, Trudeau would immediately press them into action in Ukraine. Oh, I agree. And that will make the situation in the U.S. even more volatile because the fact that people were able to leave the U.S.
Starting point is 01:41:59 to dodge the draft. They were able to come, by the way, to Britain as well. Lots of British, Americans in Britain at that time and Europe. But, you know, because they can't do that, they're more likely to stay in the U.S. and protest there. Yeah. So, Badano Brazil says, do you think that these corrupt European leaders,
Starting point is 01:42:19 financial toys, are going to be kept in power or there is any chance of change? Is Europe in the financial pockets for good? No, I think there will be. change. The question is when and how much damage will be done in the meantime. And that's what we've been saying on the Duran, basically since we started, you know, doing our programs in 2018. Sooner or later, this project is going to fall apart. It's bound to. The laws of gravity, if you like, dictate it. But in the meantime, the process of keeping it going, we see the damage
Starting point is 01:42:57 that's being done. And it's cumulative. And it's getting worse. and by the time it collapses, well, the wound that Europe will suffer might in terms of its global standing be mortal. Yeah. K.H. Wack says, a super sticker. Thank you for that. Claudia Spencer, thank you for that super sticker. Mahendra says, thank you for mentioning Indian naval revolt in Bombay.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Brits were over-dependent on Indian soldiers. in many parts of Asia, revolt changed everything. Sassi says Russia intervention is equal to regime change, equal to swap, drained. Yeah. Summer of 1970 says George Galloway is a rare and truly inspirational politician. Absolutely. I completely agree. I mean, he's by far the finest orator in Britain today. And the amazing thing about it, the other quality he has is that when the media takes him all,
Starting point is 01:44:00 he wins. He's extremely good at this to an extent that no one else in British politics is. He's not scared of them. They're scared of him. It's quite amazing, actually. Russell Hall says, will you ever do a show discussing what appears ostensibly to be the longstanding myth of Putin's secret fortune? It seems to be a root narrative. We should do it one day. I did. I once wrote a huge article about this, going through all of various allegations, systematically debunking them. And making the point, by the way, that what is most strange about one of these allegations is that they are debunked many times, you know, the government affair, the palace on the Black Sea, all of these stories. You can actually take them apart and they've been taken apart.
Starting point is 01:44:55 and yet they go quiet for a time and then they come back and did you just don't seem to find a way of just killing this thing once and for all. Just to say, it is absolute nonsense. I mean, I worked out. I actually went into great detail, but he's not even a particular by the standards of the international rich. He's not even a rich man.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Blue tongue says, hi, hi, gang. To you. Andrea says, there is an ongoing attempt by a Hungarian politician, Peter Magyat, to split Fidesh, by forming a new right-wing party. The attempt seems dead on arrival, which makes me suspect Western intelligence involvement. I agree. I mean, I didn't know about it, but I agree.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Eric Hatchit, thank you about super chat. Barkey says, go Yemen, fight the power. N.V. Stormin. Give the Duran membership. Sam Whiskey says, was the Middle East better off under Ottoman, rule. Somebody's asked me this question before. I mean, the thing to understand about that is that Ottoman rule was part of history, but it ended in 1917. I mean, it hasn't existed since that. So we're talking about a world that is long gone and existed in a completely different context
Starting point is 01:46:19 from the one today. Now, the Ottoman centuries, which basically existed in the Middle East from about 1,500 to about, as I said, 1917. They were very long centuries. They were relatively peaceful, relatively peaceful. But at the same time, it has also to be said that they were a time when economic and social development slowed and when this region started to fall behind. Up till then, it had been a relatively rich and advanced region in the eastern Mediterranean. We're talking about the medieval world. By the time the Ottoman Empire fell, it was perceived as poor and backward. So you can't say that it was better off.
Starting point is 01:47:10 It was more peaceful, perhaps. Costa 9-10 says my two favorite YouTubers with Garland, the magnificent. Best regards to all of you, Kosovo, Jeserbia. P.S. can you invite Dmitri Orlov to be a... Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Very interesting man, actually.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Yeah, yes. I'd have to get in touch with him, Dimitrilynev. Yeah. Sparky says, maybe if Trump gets back in office, he can change the military industrial complex to the space industrial complex. Maybe it would distract them and nerd oligarchs from war
Starting point is 01:47:43 and Nurtopia for a while. It's a sort of thought, and I know he's, you know, out of the market for ideas. I mean, he's still facing, a lot of resistance from them in the meantime, I guess it. Sam Whiskey says the West is short-binded, the East never forgets. True.
Starting point is 01:48:01 True. Aash says, gentlemen, what was Obama's visit to the UK about? You know, so many people have asked me this question. You know, we don't really know. It was all very mysterious. He just turned up, saw Sunak in Downing Street. Made himself very visible doing that. And we've never had a true explanation for what that visit was.
Starting point is 01:48:22 There's been rumors it was about Assange, for example, others that he's trying to do something with Ukraine or that he's interested in investing in Britain. Nobody really has a good explanation. My guess is it's about the election, the American presidential election. I think what Obama is doing is he's coming to the British and say, for God's sake, give us all you've got so that we're can stop the orange man winning and if you've got any dirt on him please make it please publish it i think that's basically what i think it was about another helper or or missuit or something like that yeah sam whisky says if biden wears the purple again will that make him america's constantine the 11th you be the last god the last emperor of the xanth um i would say
Starting point is 01:49:22 this the last emperor of brazantium constantine the 11th was a heroic figure uh he may if you read his last speech to the troops before the city fell i mean it's still very moving actually and he was a man of immense dignity tremendous courage um tremendous authority intelligence somebody who knew he was going to lose but he was determined because he was the emperor of an empire that went back to see or Augustus and beyond, that he would fall with dignity. And, well, does that remind you of fighting? All right. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Henry says, good morning, jets, have been here for a while. I missed you guys. Don't want a magic mug, but do want a shirt recommendations. Also, will you consider going on do dissonance show? Oh, okay. Yeah, I think that's, they're doing shows with Jimmy Dore, I want to say. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think so, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Absolutely. As far as shirts, no reverse gear shirts that we have. Absolutely. Those are great. Yeah. Valvi Pollard says, does the 79 attack on the U.S. embassy mitigate Israel's attack in Syria? No. I mean, I don't see, I didn't see that it mitigates it in any way, actually.
Starting point is 01:50:51 I mean, what the Iranians did in 1979 was a gross violation of international law, as the United States at the time correctly said it was. Getting backing on that issue, by the way, as I well remember from the Soviet Union, what Israel did just three or four days ago in Damascus was also a shocking violation of international law. But one doesn't mitigate or excuse the other. Yeah. Sherry says thank you, Duran, for all you do and for having Garland on today. Thank you for that. Commander Crossfire says, Russian killer robots in their effort to save us, they may doom us all. I agree. I have to say, I found the whole business very scary and rather spooky. And if you see them in action, there's a film. It is very disturbing, but it is the new face of war. And, you know, if it hadn't happened in Ukraine, we would have seen them soon somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:51:54 But that's technology and the trend of technology now. Paul says, please have Safedin Amas, author of Bitcoin Standard on the show. Sure. We'll try to get a touch. Harry C. Smith says what happened with the Turkish elections? I think we discussed this brief. I mean, I think Alex put it very well. It's all about economics.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Erdogan himself is not threatened. He's still president of Turkey. His foreign policy has not been challenged. He's not been criticised with his conduct of foreign policy. But he lets inflation get completely out of control in Turkey because he wouldn't raise interest rates. He's now decided that he's got to bring inflation down. He's tightened monetary policy hugely.
Starting point is 01:52:48 That has led to an economic. economic recession. There is always a time lag between tightening monetary policy and inflation falling. So at the present moment in time, people in Turkey are experiencing both an economic downturn and very high inflation. And so what did they do? They vote against the ruling party. It is normal. Yeah. Paul says Alex. No, yeah, I agree. Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right. Paul says Safateen is also the economic advisor to Naib Bukle. Okay. That would be interesting to get someone from Bukhle's staff to go on the show. If they would come on the show, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Absolutely. Khafan says Russia should sell weapons to NATO. They did. You know, the boss of all the time they did. I've been Greece bought some It's not going to happen again. Yeah. Pauley Pollard says, your answer to my previous question must be no. The question is that? I'll go back and see.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I'll go back and see if I can find it. Polly said, did NATO invoke Article 5 in February 2020 in Man's Belgium in secret? A video shows it, but nothing has been written on the subject. Thank you. I don't think so. And certainly, as you correctly said, there's been no real confirmation of it.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Ah, does the 79 attack on U.S. Embassy mitigate Israel's attack in Syria? Was that a no from you, Alexander? Yes, it was. It was a no. Okay. Russell Hall says, I've never seen anyone even question the myth of Putin's fortune. It's a narrative they constructed early in his career to prepare for discrediting him. Yeah, well, as I said, I mean, I have I have written a long article about this, which is probably somewhere. You can probably unearth it's somewhere on the internet. It's still there, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:54:46 But I've written a long article about it. I mean, it's, to my mind, it's a program we can do. But as night follows day, the same stories will repeat themselves. I mean, you can spend all your life disproving it. But, you know, it's not going to change people's beliefs about this. I mean, take that with the stories about his yacht. There's this huge ship somewhere, which is always described as Putin's yacht. No one can find a single instance of Putin ever visiting this thing.
Starting point is 01:55:23 Don't want. I've never seen Putin on a yacht. You've never seen Putin on a yacht. Absolutely. And, you know, you go to his website. You can track his movements very, very precisely. I mean, it's so difficult to know where he is at any one particular point in time. He's never been on this yacht.
Starting point is 01:55:43 The guy's working nonstop. Nonstop. By the way, on that, he actually made a comment about it. He said, you know, that his life feels like he's under a waterfall all the time. Things never stop. He said this. And he said, you know, if I'm in a meet, if I'm meeting somebody, I know that the moment the meetings ended, there'll be a phone call from someone.
Starting point is 01:56:03 There'll be another phone call immediately after. And then I've got to prepare for another meeting to go directly into that. But he also said, I actually like my work and said that, and it gets easier as time passes, because you get more into the habit of making decisions. He said, before I became president, it was incredibly daunting. The thought of leading the country was very, very daunting. And then the moment I started doing it, it began to fall into place. But as I said, of time, as he said, he never has any.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Where's he going to go into a yoke? Shiva says, as a destroyer of world, I highly recommend the neocons, five stars out of five. Absolutely, absolutely. All right, Alexander, I think those are all the questions. Let me just do a final check. Your final thoughts from a double header of live streams, Jeffrey. Oh, it's amazing, amazing ones. But you see, there is actually a link because, of course, what we have,
Starting point is 01:57:06 what Jeffrey Sachs was telling us about was there isn't any diplomacy going on. These people don't negotiate. They can't negotiate. This isn't in there. You know, they just don't have any conception of how to negotiate. And in a very different way, but Garland was telling us exactly the same thing. And because they don't negotiate, because they don't talk to other people, things are going wrong all around them, but they don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:57:32 Because in the normal response of a government, if it senses that it's facing a crisis and things are starting to come apart, is to talk to the other side. And the Americans just don't do that. That's one difference with the British. The British did. The British were always very into diplomacy. And, you know, a time of Indian independence, they talked to Nero, they talked to guns. They talked to all the people in India. They knew how to talk.
Starting point is 01:58:09 The American leadership today doesn't. Nigel says, boat third in May, November for change. Yeah. Thank you, Nigel for that. And Commander Crossfire says Putin needs to take a vacation. He needs a yacht. Is it true? True.
Starting point is 01:58:25 And Balvi Pollard says, is Erdogan a good faith mediator in Ukraine? No, he's not a good faith mediator in any. respect. He's always there for what he can get. The one point I would say about Erdogan is that sometimes if, you know, he's there and he's helping you to negotiate something, if it's in his interests to get a good deal, he'll do it. But never trust him. I mean, he's absolutely, he's as slippery as an eel. You don't really want him as your mediator. That's absolutely what I would say. And one more, Alexander, and we will wrap it up from Alex. I miss both live streams, but we thank you for the hard work.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Peace, not war. And Russell says, the thing is, I doubt any of your guests even stop to think about questioning the narrative of Putin's wealth or its purpose. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'm not going to speak for them, but I think we interview people who are pretty intelligent and pretty shrew and I think they can make the but they can put the two and two together just as much as I did when you actually study it the story of Putin's wealth is so threadback
Starting point is 01:59:40 it is so lacking in any substance at all that it almost immediately falls apart it took a long time to write that article because there's so many different allegations but each allegation in itself is absurd it is a little bit like Russia again. in that respect. I mean, lots and lots of smoke with absolutely no fire. Yeah. Thank you, Bally, yes. Thank you, Zareel. Thank you, Gab, formerly GEC812. Thank you, Peter, and Reckless Abandon. And I think those are our moderators for today. Thank you for everything that you do. And Spartan Warrior Queen as well. Thank you for helping us with the live streams today. and thank you to everyone that joined us on Rockfin, Odyssey, Rumble, the durand.locals.com and YouTube.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Take care, everyone.

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