The Duran Podcast - Rishi Sunak's time as UK PM is running out

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Rishi Sunak's time as UK PM is running out

All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is going on in the UK. And it looks like Rishi Sunaq's position is starting to deteriorate in the UK. And Kirstammer is waiting in the wings to take over. Not that much will change with Kirstammer, but that looks like the situation. Rishi Sunak, how long has he been in office a year? Yeah, it seems like just every year, yeah, he's running. It's, yeah, well, he's about due to be swapped out. Yeah, he's about due to be swapped out. Exactly. He lasted much longer. If it's any consolation for Rishi Sunaki, he lasted much longer than Teresa May and who else was, was in. Well, Liz Trust. He lasted longer than Liz Trust. Liz Trust. I don't think he's, sorry, I said Teresa May, Liz Trust, Liz Trust. Liz Trust. I think he lasts as long as Theresa May. But there we but I mean, I think we are, we can now definitely say that we are in the closing months of this government.

And it is falling apart. There were regional elections, local elections, by-elections, in two parliamentary constituencies on Thursday last week. One was in Bedfordshire. One was in a place called Tamworth. These are rock-solid conservative seats. the Conservatives should definitely have kept them. Now, Tamworth is important in the history of the Conservative Party because way back in, I think it was the 1840s,

Robert Peel, who was at that time the leader of what was then still called the Tory Party, he made a speech in Tamworth, which is referred to as the Tamworth Manifesto. which many people consider to be the re-foundation, the actual foundation point of the Conservative Party. So Tamworth has an enormous history for the Conservatives. It's in a sense the place their parties began. And they lost to labour in both places. That is a political earthquake.

And if you follow British politics, if you follow British conservative politics, if you read what conservatives themselves are saying, they've given up. They now understand that there will be an election sometime next year. That election is going to be lost. There's talk that it will be a labour landslide on the same. scale of what happened in 1997. In Scotland, the Scottish Nationalist Party, which is, in theory, a left-wing party, but whose emergence in some ways help the Conservatives,

because Scotland, before the SMP appeared on the seat, had been a labour stronghold. The SMP seems to be collapsing as well. So the certainty next year, is that Kirstama is going to become Britain's Prime Minister. And the Conservatives are close to give. Well, I think they have given up. They no longer expect that Rishi Sunat can turn things round.

I don't know why they ever thought he could, by the way. But anyway, he's failed, he's visibly failed, and you already hear reports that people like Britain's current finance minister, Jeremy Hunt, for example, is actively thinking of quitting politics. and might not even stand in the next election. And when you hear people, those kind of rumours circulate, you know that the Conservatives are close to the point of no return.

And, well, are at the point of no return, that they feel that they've lost. Now, what I don't think this conveys, however, is the intense bitterness that the conservatives feel about their own government. The Conservatives came to power in 2010, and they were supposed to fix Britain after the effects of the financial crisis. And you read article after article by Conservative commentators, and they're saying that the government, the entire Conservative government that has existed over these last 13 years has been a total failure.

It has achieved nothing that it was supposed to do. That Britain today has higher taxes, more immigration, greater debt, a worse performing economy that it did back when it took office, that this has been, in other words, the most unsuccessful British government since the Second World War. And that is an extraordinary thing for people to say. and of course it is conservatives who are saying it. The problem is conservatives definitely on the way out. Nobody has any expectation. I'd say nobody. I mean, even people on the left have no real expectation

that things with Kirstama are going to get any better. And if you go back to what I said when Rishi Sunak became primary, Minister, when, you know, Liz Tras was bundled out and he was brought in. I said that Sunak is exactly the kind of leader that the globalists, the establishment wants. But I also said that he is not their preferred candidate for Prime Minister. The person they really want is Kirstama, and that is whom the British people are going to get. I'm just going to finish by saying that Reform UK, which is Nigel for... Farage's old Brexit party.

Appears to be reviving. It also did well in these two parliamentary by-elections. There's talk that it is also going to start fighting in more and more places. There's even some talk that Nigel Farage might rejoin and reactivate in it. And that might eventually, and in time, become a new focus of political energy. but it's still not really there at the moment. At the moment, what we're seeing is a discredited, incompetent, failed government exiting the scene and the government that is going to replace it is going to simply continue to do all the things

that this failed, discredited and incompetent government has done. So we're going to get more of the same with the Prime Minister that the establishment wants. I imagine Kier Stomber is the choice of the Uniparty. Absolutely. Of conservatives and labor. So we're going to get Kirstamber. How come the system in the UK can't, you know, just jump over Kirstammer and get to some proper governance and proper leadership? I mean, it seems like it seems to be like the situation is, you know, we've just got to go through this process.

Okay, we got rid of his trust. Now we have Rishi Sudak. We accept it. We have to go through the Rishi Sunak cycle. And we all know we're going to get Kirstammer. We have to go through the Kier Stommer cycle until we get to some sort of exit from this, from these dark ties, from this catastrophe. I mean, this is not how democracy.

No, it's not how to be working. Is it? No, it's course. And that's, and that you've put your finger on the fundamental problem. Because, of course, if they do allow any open. within the political system at all. And this is what this strong vote for Reform UK in these two constituencies tells us.

By the way, in both places, the combined vote for the Conservatives and Reform UK was bigger than the Labour vote. And already there are some Conservatives blaming Reform UK for the fact that the Conservatives lost those two seats. There's every reason to think that if Reform UK hadn't stood in these seats, seats, most of the people who voted for it would have either abstained or conceivably some are so angry with the Conservatives that they might have even voted Labor.

But the point is, Reform UK is there. There are people on the left of politics who are also there. The Uniparty doesn't want to open up any part of the political system. because it doesn't want to allow any real debate or any real emergence of alternatives because it knows if it does that it risks losing control of the political process. So Rishi Sunak, the Conservatives, utterly discredited, so you put in their place somebody who's less discredited and unpopular but who will just go ahead and continue to do the same thing.

If you open up the political system, if you allow people to express dissident views and to stand for Parliament and to get air time in the media and all of those things, well, what you risk then is a return to real politics, at which point, of course, the whole position of the uny party collapses. Now, I have to add to all of this that, of course, again, the Conservatives are to a great extent. victims of the Olensky curse. We can't avoid discussing this topic because it is. Britain, this government, has been fervid in its support of Ukraine. It's gutted the British armed forces, to send tanks and weapons and armoured, you know, vehicles and self-revelled guns to Ukraine. It's been extreme in the rhetoric that it has, you know, used in this conflict. And it has been the most, you know, the most fervid supporter of sanctions against Russia. And of course, that has had a big effect on the economic situation here.

It explains why energy costs are so high. Now, this is translating in Britain into very high inflation. Britain has higher inflation than the Eurozone does. It is officially it is 6.7. percent. Informally, it is even higher. I personally think, I sense that in fact, it is getting higher still. Inflation in Britain is rising. That is the single reason why people are so angry with the conservatives at the moment. I mean, you know, they feel betrayed over Brexit. They feel betrayed over immigration. They feel betrayed of high taxes. And they feel, they feel betrayed over. High taxes. And they feel, you know, they feel, they feel betrayed over Brexit.

feel betrayed over the high prices. And the high prices and the higher taxes are a direct product of the economic war. So we see that the British, the government, the British conservative government is being affected by the Zelensky, the Elensky curse. But of course, Starma assures us that he's going to do exactly the same thing. So we go from one, failed government to another failed government, they're all going to do the same thing. They're going to double down on what has already failed. Yeah, I was going to ask you the question. How would Stammer be any different than Sunak and Truss and Boris Johnson or any of these guys?

I imagine he's going to continue to provide whatever the UK has to Ukraine, whatever it has left. And to be fair to, to election. and Ukraine, it was Boris Johnson that made these promises to Ukraine that they would get unlimited everything. And so it seems like Boris Johnson trust Sudak and Tsulipistamur are going to give Ukraine everything that the UK has. I mean, the UK is willing to empty out everything based on Boris Johnson's promises to Zelensky that he made in the end of.

of March, early April, when Ukraine had a deal. The war could have ended, but Boris Johnson convinced Zeletsky otherwise. So, you know, this is, this is Boris Johnson has kind of set this, this ship on his course. And I guess Keir Stalmer is going to, going to drive that ship, he's going to ram that ship right into the rocks. Exactly. It's not far off. Of course, right there. The thing to say is, of course, the British establishment is absolutely united behind this policy. I mean, so again, dissent, disagreement is not permitted. You're not going to get into the media, the mainstream media here in Britain.

If you start to argue that this thing isn't going well, that we need to sit down, we need to start talks, we need to look for some kind of a way out. I mean, there is much, much more debate about this issue in the United States than there is even, than there is in Britain. And again, it's not difficult to understand why. Because of course, firstly, two reasons. One, for the British establishment, for the political class here, the conflict with Russia is a priority. It is an even bigger priority for them than stabilising the British economy. That may sound astonishing. But it's a priority. difficult to avoid the sense that this is true. I mean this is something that they are

absolutely all single-mindedly determined about and if you listen to British spokesman, if you listen to the language that some British officials use it is extraordinary. So for them it is a priority and they're not going to allow the fact that this is you know having an effect a negative effect on the British economy to stand in their way and that also means that they have have to close down political discussion about this and make sure that whoever replaces Sunac and the Conservatives is going to be reliably committed to conducting the same policy. But of course the other reason why they're not able or willing to allow any expression of

disagreement or even discussion about this matter is again because doing that risks opening up the political system, risks opening up debate, at which point the position of the European party starts to crumble. And that isn't something they can allow. So the result is we're trapped, we're locked into this policy, and we have no real exit point, no way out. In Germany, you have the IF debt, which is rising, which is able to criticise these things. In France, you have people on both the left and the right who still have the ability to speak out and criticize things. There's just been a very interesting and important election in Switzerland, where a conservative right-wing party has topped the polls, opposing, you know, saying that they thought the sanctions were unwise,

the fact that they were wrong, that Swiss neutrality has been compromised, that they want the sanctions reversed. You could talk about these things. In Britain, politically speaking, it is impossible. Real quick, what's reforms position on this? No, again, I mean, they're very, very wary of taking anything but the official line publicly on the conflict in Ukraine. They know that if they do, the entire weight of the establishment and its media will be brought down upon them and they'll be called Putin puppets and all the rest.

In Britain, that is a very dangerous thing to happen to you. If you do that, then you risk all kinds of consequences, as we saw with what happened with Corbyn, you know, before. In private, in private, when you speak to people, you know, with that kind of outlook, they're much more, you know, aware of the problems of what's going on. you will find that both the leaders, the people who are in that party, and the demographic that vote for them in increasing numbers, which is, by the way, predominantly a working-class demographic.

They're far more sceptical and in some cases outright negative about the whole Ukraine project. But even they, for the moment, are not able to come out. straightforwardly and say that this policy is wrong and is leading britain into a you know a cul-de-sac into a you know into into into into a blind alley and even they're afraid to say it so the policy just goes on okay um i guess we'll end it there real quick is Nigel farage aligned with Ukraine as the Reform Party? I mean, do they have the same view?

Well, he has been, he has tended to support also the line on Ukraine. Remember, at the moment, he's primarily a media personality now, rather than an active political one. But, you know, there are rumors that he might eventually rejoin politics. Can I just say it isn't, I think, you know, we talked about Ukraine because of course the Olensky curse is playing as I said a critical role in all of this even though we see how the political elite are able to juggle things but overall in almost everything there is complete political paralysis here there is no one who's coming forward with any kind of agenda or or mechanism for how to move Britain forward how to move and find a way to address this the deep seated problems that are afflicting British society. If you're looking at what Stama is talking about,

he has no plan, no idea about how to get the economy moving again. We're trapped in a high tax, high spend system, because the economy is weakening. And the only thing that some people who are associated with the Labor Party can can say is, well, look, because economic growth is so slow, that means we got to fund services, which means we got a tax even more. So that is, that's the plan, apparently. Okay, the durand. Dot locals.com. We are on Rumble, Odyssey, Bitch, Shoot, Telegram, Rockfin, and Twitter X. And go to the Dirad shop, 10% off, use the code.

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