The Duran Podcast - Searching for a Rishi Sunak exit

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Searching for a Rishi Sunak exit ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, Alexander, let's talk about the state of things in the UK. The rumor is that the conservatives are trying to figure out a way to be rid of Rishi Sunak. True or not true, the polling numbers look abysmal for the... It is true, and I mean, it's disturbing also that it's now reached the American media. I mean, Bloomberg is carrying this story, but it's absolutely... I'm sure it is true. There has never been a point in the history of the British Conservative Party when it is polling so badly.
Starting point is 00:00:39 The latest opinion polls put it around 20%. Kirstama's party, by the way, is about 43%. So that's a 23% gap. There are real fears that when the election comes, which will probably be towards the end of this year, or just conceivably at the start of next year, we will see a conservative implosion that the Conservatives will have fewer than 100 seats
Starting point is 00:01:10 coming out of the election, which is unprecedented for this party. It has never happened at any point in British history since the Conservative Party emerged and the Conservative Party has a continuous history going back to the late 17th century. So that gives you a sense
Starting point is 00:01:38 of how critical and bad the situation is. And one also gets the sense for Sunak himself, though he is still in name prime minister, he is no longer exercising the functions of prime minister to any real effect. He gives orders, he makes decisions, and those orders and decisions that he makes are just ignored,
Starting point is 00:02:05 and that everything else just carries on, slowly falling apart around him. What has crystallised this feeling that Sunak is taking, leading the Conservatives to total collapse, is the last budget that the government published last week. That was expected to be the budget that was going to transform the mood in Britain. It was expected that it would announce big tax cuts, which the Conservatives were hoping for, which they thought would increase the government's popularity. The budget came. it did announce some tax cuts,
Starting point is 00:02:56 the British electorate were completely unimpressed, and the government's popularity continued to fall. And on top of all of that, the Conservative Party has got into a major mess over the certain comments that the deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, a man called Lee Anderson, made, which some people,
Starting point is 00:03:23 thought made too many criticisms of Muslim people. I have to be very careful what I say here. Anyway, he was sat from his position. He's now defected to change UK. And that also has said accelerated the sense of decay within the party and has apparently angered a lot of working class voters in some of the Red Wall former Labour seats who, who, had back the Conservatives in 2019 because they trusted the Conservatives to deliver Brexit. So the whole thing looks terrible. By the way, the economic situation in Britain looks very bad. Economy now probably in recession, after a decade and a half of stagnation, productivity is falling and has been falling now. For a long time, government debt has been rising and the tax burden in Britain
Starting point is 00:04:30 is the highest it's been since 1948. In other words, since the period directly after the Second World War when the British had to pay back all the costs that they'd incurred during the Second World War. So, terrible situation and a collapsing government. Yeah, I think they kept Sue neck in there too long. He had that meltdown last week over Galloway, that looked really bad. But I mean, I think they kept the guy in in office just way too long. I mean, it was obvious that he wasn't cut for the job of prime minister. Not that Boris Johnson or trust or anyone like that was any better. But the conservatives, they should have gotten rid of him a long time ago. Maybe they didn't have anybody, though,
Starting point is 00:05:19 to replace him. I don't know. Well, they do. And the talk is bringing Boris Johnson. back. It sounds astonishing, but that's the idea. Now, bear in mind, there are reasons why they haven't moved against Sunak. And one is that, of course, Sunak is the third prime minister that they'd had over the course of this parliament. Firstly, we have Johnson, then we had Liz Truss for a few weeks, then we have Sunac, getting rid of Sunac and bringing back Johnson would look, I mean, it would look ridiculous. But of course, some people are saying, within the Conservative Party. Ridiculous as it might look,
Starting point is 00:05:57 you're still bringing back into Downing Street a successful electoral campaigner, somebody with a big personality. It can't be worse than clinging on to Sunac. I'm going to pushback, however. I agree with you that in party political terms, the Sunak Premiership has been a
Starting point is 00:06:25 complete disaster for the Conservative Party as a governing party it has been a disaster arguably for Britain it has been a disaster but if we go back to the days after
Starting point is 00:06:40 list trusses fall if you remember at the time I said that this is all part of this is all the result of a plot I said that LIS Trust was shunted aside, that the establishment bringing their own people back in, that Sunak himself was absolutely, you know, part of the globalist European network. And he was brought in basically to shift Britain back in that direction.
Starting point is 00:07:17 from the perspective of the people who did all of this, assuming, of course, that my analysis is correct, which I've no doubt it is, by them. What they've got from Sunak what they wanted. I mean, their allegiance is not specifically to the Conservative Party. What they want, and have always wanted, is to see this dangerous Brexit, nationalist current in Britain defeated and Britain brought back into globalist, into the globalist mainstream, if you wish. Sunak was an obvious person to do that. And from their point of view,
Starting point is 00:08:00 and again, I made this point at the time, the person they've always really wanted was not Sunac, it was Kirstama, and they're going to get him. Because as they're, as they, they're going to get him. Because as conservatives implodes. Stama, Labor, not especially popular amongst people in Britain. Every single survey says this, but by default, they're going to win, and they're going to win big. So we're going to have Kirstama, unlikable to many people in Britain, but Prime Minister of a Labour government, with a huge majority, able to take Britain even further in a globalist direction, able to pull it back into the EU system. There's already articles now starting to appear in the Financial Times,
Starting point is 00:09:00 which are essentially saying that. And you can argue that they have got exactly what... intended and that for them, Sunak has actually delivered. You get rid of the conservatives? Well, what does it matter? At least in the short to medium term. A win for the globalists. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And, you know, a big win for the globe. A big win for the globalists now that I'm thinking about everything. Yeah, it seems like they almost played everybody. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think they have. And by the way, I mean, I, I mean, this is only a, you know, minor aspect of this. But the way in which Parliament is now being managed should in itself alert people to what is going on.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Now, you remember during the Brexit wall, we have this extraordinary speaker, John Burko, who was clearly a fervid remainder. He was bending procedure all the time. to make as much trouble for Johnson's government, which is trying to get Brexit done, as much trouble for them as possible, and was allowing all kinds of weird and wonderful motions to be brought by Romana MPs,
Starting point is 00:10:29 trying to disrupt the government's programme. Well, Burko had to stand down, and the man who took over from him was a man called Lindsay Horace. And a lot of people expected that Lindsay Hoy would start to write the ship, that he would not be a openly political speaker as Burko had been. But over the last two weeks or so, things have changed. Now, there were, there had been two events which had been really very telling. The first one was over a vote about a ceasefire in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And this happened on a day when, by convention, the party that is allowed to propose the motions to the House of Commons is one of the opposition parties, in this case the Scottish Nationalist Party. And they proposed a motion that called for an immediate and complete ceasefire. in Gaza. Stama didn't want that motion to go forward because he knows that many of his MPs would support
Starting point is 00:11:45 it and it's embarrassing for him but he doesn't want to break with the British establishment over Middle East policy. He's very close to that of the government. So he spoke with the Speaker and the Speaker instead of proposing
Starting point is 00:12:01 the Scottish Nationalist Party's amendment instead proposed a much watered down, Labor amendment. And the Scottish, the SMP amendment, wasn't debated at all. Now, that is unprecedented. And the clerks of the House of Commons were furious about, this is the bureaucracy there. And the speaker actually was forced to apologize. But the point is there was a debate on the Labor amendment, not the S&P one. There was no rebellion against Stama, therefore, because all the Labour MPs supported their own party's amendment.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And Stama got what he wanted and escaped trouble. And that was already, you know, that was a big event in parliamentary terms. It sounds complicated, but it shows that the Speaker is now, assisting Stama. He did that again last week. We had another debate last week, actually not last, sorry, earlier this week. This was about certain comments made by a donor, financial donor to the, of the Conservative Party. He made some very critical comments against a black London MP called Diane Abbott. Now, Diane Abbott is a close friend of Jeremy Corbyn. Stama has basically booted her out of the parliamentary Labour Party.
Starting point is 00:13:40 He's aiming to prevent her from standing again as a Labour candidate in the forthcoming election. But anyway, there was an outcry because this donor said these things about Diane Abbott. There was a debate in the House of Commons to criticise this donor. It was proposed by the Labour Party. And Diane Abbott was there. She stood up 37 times, apparently, asking for permission to speak in this debate, which is about abusive comments supposedly made about herself. And the speaker didn't see her. He ignored her.
Starting point is 00:14:21 He didn't want to call her because, again, Stama wouldn't have wanted it. He wouldn't have wanted this MP to garner sympathy in a debate like this. at a time when Stalma himself is trying to force her out of the Labour Party as he works to purge the party of all of Corbyn supporters. Now, these are minor things. I don't want to overstate the importance of these events in Parliament. Most people are not interested in them. But again, what they show is that every part of the...
Starting point is 00:15:01 political machinery is now being used to help Stama, not just become prime minister, but to put him in an impregnable position. Yeah, Stommer is the guy. He's the guy that they want that they've been pushing for. Yes. They're going to get them too. It's going to be a disaster, my prediction. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:28 There are many people who say that. Interestingly enough, both on. on the right and on the left. It's one of the strangest, it's not actually unprecedented in Britain, but there are people on the, you know, the authentic right and the authentic left who are agreeing about an awful lot
Starting point is 00:15:52 about what's wrong about Britain today. And I think this is something I would try to explain to people about Britain, which is that historically, in Britain. Britain is unusual because people who were very much on the right and people who were very much on the left at a personal level
Starting point is 00:16:12 in politics often used to get on quite well together. Within the system that we have today that's become more difficult but you could start to see ultimately that there is now
Starting point is 00:16:28 both on the right, I mean on the real right, the actual genuine right, not the Sunac right, which isn't a right. And on the genuine left, not the star on the left, which isn't the genuine left, but the real left, there are people who are now beginning to emerge and they're starting to make the same criticisms. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:48 We will leave it there. The durand.com. We are on Rumble, odyssey, bitch, shoot, telegram, rock, fin, and Twitter X. And go to the Duran shop. 15% of all t-shirts. Take care.

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