The Duran Podcast - Thunderous applause and a fist pump

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Thunderous applause and a fist pump The Duran: Episode 1706

All right, Alexander, let's talk about the incident in Canada, in the Parliament in Canada, and let's discuss Trudeau's statements on this embarrassing incident that took place in the Parliament in Canada where all of the members of Parliament, all of the members of Parliament, gave a standing ovation, I believe twice, to a Nazi. Yes, absolutely. It is as simple as that. Trudeau. Yeah, no, yeah, it's as simple as that.

And Trudeau has now finally broken his silence about the incident. And it's everyone's fault, including Russia. Anyway, what do you think? Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, let's just talk about this incident again for a moment. I mean, you've discussed it very, I mean, can I just say, you've covered it marvelously in your, on your channel. So we don't perhaps need to go to the huge details of this. But this was a person, an SS veteran from the Second World War in a notorious, from a notorious military unit, the Galicia Division, who had fought against the Russians, but, you know, in a division that had also fought against Polish. the Polish resistance, and that had also been guilty of all kinds of atrocities against

Jewish people, against all kinds of people. This is not controversial. A Third Reich era, Nazi, an actual one, brought to the Canadian Parliament and involved in a standing ovation. Now, I find it astonishing that this could have happened. I mean, it is so incredible at so many levels, I mean, that this person wasn't fetid, that he wasn't. We're asked to believe that, you know, this is all, only the speaker's mistake, that he didn't really check out who this person was. I find that utterly bizarre. I find that so weird.

I mean, I know how carefully vetted before you are, before you are able to attend events in the British Parliament, that the person like this could walk in to the Canadian Parliament, And he's of a certain age when if he has been fighting the Russians in the past, there's only one war to be straightforward about it when he could have fought them. So, I mean, what were all of these people thinking? But I'm also going to say something else. Given the fact, given the realities of today's Ukraine, this was a disaster.

that was waiting to happen. Sooner or later, some incident of this kind would have taken place, given the fact that, you know, Ukraine's national hero today, is Stepan Bandera, with all that that implies that the Bandera's movement is so integrated into the Ukrainian power structures. Sooner or later, there was going to be some deeply embarrassing incident, and it's interesting that it happened in Canada. But anyway, I just wanted to say all of that.

Let's now talk about Trudeau. First of all, what he always does, he hides behind the Speaker of the Canadian Parliament. He's only the Prime Minister of Canada. He's only the person who's actually Zelensky's host when Zelensky arrives in Canada. He's not in any way responsible for the fact that a person like the one, you know, the Nazi arrives in the Canadian Parliament.

He's not, I mean, he's in charge of the executive. but he's not involved apparently in checking people who come looking, you know, have the executive in Canada, doesn't, the security services in Canada, which are answerable remember to Trudeau. They don't play any role in all of this. That's the impression that Trudeau wants to give us.

So it's all the speaker's fault. The speaker is being asked and has made this extraordinary apology. It's all my fault. I didn't do the checks. I made this on the spurred decision since when does a speaker make an on the spurred decision like that. But anyway, that's the official line. Except of course, Trudeau, he says, he's basically saying it's nothing to do with me. It's a mistake made by the speaker. The speaker has apologized. So that's all right then. And then, of course, he makes comments, which you can see videos of him making, which he immediately pivots. Let's remember, you know, we just push back against Russian propaganda and Russian disinformation.

What are the Russians got to do with any of this? They didn't invite this guy to the Canadian Parliament. But nonetheless, that's what Trudeau does. He immediately tries to involve the Russian. in this in some sort of way. And you can interpret it in two ways. Either the Russians somehow engineered this event. And I can't really see how even, you know, Trudeau can expect people in Canada or around the world to think that.

Or, and this I find much more likely, but also far more sinister. It's basically a message to his supporters. And most specifically, he's. supporters in the media, he's telling them, don't cover the story anymore, because if you do so, you're acting in the interests of the Russians. And I think that's the message that he's trying to convey. By the way, in Britain, we are ahead of him. The media here has basically not covered this story at all. I mean, I haven't seen. seen an article in The Guardian about it.

If there has been one, it's presumably been buried somewhere. So the media in Britain, remember Britain is very close to Canada, have basically buried the story. And that is what Trudeau wants the media in Canada to do. And he's telling them, don't cover the story any further, because if you do so, you're acting in Putin's interests. That's the pivot. That's the shift.

Don't give Putin the win. Don't give Putin the win. Yeah. That's basically what they're saying. Yes. Forget about reality. Yes. Forget about the facts, which is that Ukraine obviously has a problem with these types of individuals,

whether you're talking about World War II or whether you're talking about the Azov Battalion and Bandera, of which there are Bandera statues, there are Bandera streets, Bandera schools. I don't know. I mean, you know, half the, half of Ukraine seems to be named after Bandera and his, his, his, his, his buddies. But, um, they want us to forget about all of that and focus on Russia disinformation. Don't give Putin the win. Yes. Don't make it, don't make it, uh, don't make it out as, as if when Putin said denatification, he was right. That's what they're worried about. That people are going to say, you know what? Maybe when Putin announced the SMO and he said denatification, maybe he had a point. Yes. They don't want that to happen.

No, of course not. Of course they don't want that to happen. And that's what they, that's what, so talk about you talk about the Russians. Don't look at what happens in Ukraine. You talk about Bandera. And of course, I mean, I remember, for example, an interview with General Zalusni, who's the commander-chief of the ground force, well, not the ground forces of the entire Ukrainian military. Of course he's there. He's got a picture of Bandera on the wall just behind him. So I mean this isn't this isn't in any way concealed in Ukraine anymore. It is it is straightforwardly there in the open. He is now

officially to all intents and purposes modern Ukraine's national hero. It's as simple as this. We don't want to talk about that. We don't want to discuss that. We're sorry if an episode like this happened in the Parliament, but we don't really feel terribly remorseful about it because let's face it, we know what the truth is. I mean, Trudeau knows what the realities of Ukraine are, but he's basically telling everybody,

look, this slipped through, it all went wrong. We slipped here, but don't talk about it, because if you do, you're playing into the hands of the Russians. So does Zelensky apologize, or does he ask for Canada to apologize to him? Which one is it? I'm a little confused on this because in the front row, cheering, clapping for this Nazi, was Zelensky and his wife, right next to Trudeau. So what happens here?

Does Zelensky ask Canada? demand that Canada apologize to himself and the people of Ukraine as he's the president of Ukraine. He's representing Ukraine. Or what? Or does he apologize to Poland, Belarus, Czech, Slovakia. I mean, you know, Israel, Jews around the world. I mean, which, how exactly does this work? Or is he just going to remain silent? Well, he's remaining silent, and it's exactly what he's going to do. I mean, if he has made any apologies, I haven't seen them or heard them, and they're so below the radar that, you know, as far as I'm concerned, they're inaudible.

And I don't expect to hear from them. I don't believe he's made any apologies. I think that he's so accustomed by now in Kiev to being surrounded by people like this that, as I said, I don't think he saw anything unusual or untoward about this incident. At least that's my impression. So, and besides, he knows. knows very well that if he did apologize on behalf of Canada or if he did criticize Canada, there will be these very, these people in Kiev who would be angry over that.

Because as far as they're concerned, Bandera is their national hero. So of course he doesn't. I mean, he remains silent, which is what he's done by the way. Go on. The guys that wave the black and red flag, those guys. Absolutely. Exactly. And who put interesting symbols from the Second World War on their tanks and on their helmets and all those things.

And on their uniforms and their uniform patches and who give their names to their military units that are reminiscent of those of German units of the Second World War, like Edelweiss, for example. So, yes, I mean, you know, they won't be happy. They don't want any kind of apologies. They don't see anything to apologize for because they agree with all of this. They do feel this guy was actually a hero because they see themselves as continuing he struggle. I'm not saying all Ukrainians are like this, by the way. I'm not saying all Ukrainians who are fighting the Russians are like this,

but there is a significant number who are and they're powerful, and they're in strong positions in Ukraine, and Zelensky is dependent upon them. and he's probably afraid of them. I'm talking about the, when I mean the flag, I'm talking about the too bad. You know, Ukraine has the golden blue. Yeah. And you usually see from the west of Ukraine, the banderites, they have a flag, which is the two stripes.

Exactly. The black and the red. Exactly. That flag, which you see them waving that flag quite a bit. Absolutely. As I said, Zelensky doesn't want to make those people angry. So he's not going to apologize or suggest that Canada did anything wrong. What he is, of course, is deeply embarrassed by this incident because he doesn't want to draw attention to this issue, this problem in Ukraine.

Either he doesn't want people to think about this or talk about this outside Ukraine. But within Ukraine, of course, it's different. And Canada, Canada has been badly embarrassed by this. Well, can I just say, I mean, I'm sure you... You know, it's bringing up, it's bringing up a lot of bad history with Canada. I guess you could say some of the... Some of the people that entered the country. Well, indeed, absolutely.

You know, here's a question for you, to go off on this comment, here's a question for you. What is this guy doing in Canada for all the years? Well, that is an excellent question. If he served for the SS... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, absolutely, what is he doing in Canada? But, of course, there's lots of these people. Now, I'm good to say this.

I mean, I'm sure you've had this as well, but I've been inundated with messages from people from Canada, you know, both emails, but also comments on threads in which people from Canada are absolutely furious and deeply upset about this and deeply ashamed. They talk about the fact that their fathers and grandfathers fought in the second world, World War, the Canadian Army fought heroically in the fighting in Northern Europe. The fact that people don't always forget, when people talk about the British Army in

Northern Europe that was commanded by Montgomery, people forget, it's about, you know, over 50% of it was actually Canadians. And, you know, they were outstanding soldiers. And, of course, they fought in Europe. to liberate Europe from this kind of, from people like this, from people who have this kind of ideology. So when people who are the sons and grandsons of soldiers who fought in the Second World War, they see a person like this turning up in the Parliament, they are shocked and they're very, very angry and some of them have expressed big deep shame

and sense of disgrace over what happened. But you're absolutely right. It does beg the question of how this country, which took this very strong and very brave role during the Second World War, has allowed itself to become the refuge of people like this. And of course, the answer to that is we go back to the events of the Cold War.

The United States didn't want these people because there were American laws that made it very difficult. Many of these people did not want to end up in South America or places like that. There was already a big Ukrainian community in Canada so it was easier, much easier for them to go there and that's

where they've ended up and unfortunately they brought their political beliefs with them they spread those beliefs amongst other members of the existing Ukrainian community in Canada and design

disastrously from Canada, this has been re-exported back, or so I feel, to Ukraine itself. Yeah, what a disaster. All right, the duran. Dot locals.com. We are on Rumble, Odyssey, bitch, shoot, telegram, Rock Finn, and X, and go to the Duran shop. 10% off, use the code. Good day. Take care.