The Duran Podcast - Trusting Macron is a mistake

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

Trusting Macron is a mistake

All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in France. Calls to impeach Macron. Not going to happen. It looks like Macron has double-crossed Melanchamp and the alliance that he set up with the NFP, right? Yeah, the NFP. Yeah, I'm trying to get the NFP. Yeah, it looks like he's double-crossed them. The Olympics are over, but Macron doesn't want to approve their choice.

for prime minister. We talked about this in a video. We recorded maybe three weeks ago when we talked about Lucy Gostis. Gostetz. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have the whole Dura thing on top of all of this intrigue that's happening in France with Macron's administration and his alliance with the NFP and appointing a prime minister. At the end of the day, the French government is in trouble. parliament, the French government looks like, we're possibly heading to some sort of a standstill and maybe even elections again in a year's time. There's a lot of talk about Macron having to call elections again. But what are your thoughts about what's happening with France? Well, I think things are playing out exactly in the way that we said that they would. What Macro is saying is, look,

I'm happy to form a government based on the election results. It's just that I want the election results changed. I don't want the left forming the government. I don't certainly don't want Marine Le Pen's party forming or playing any role in the government at all. I want my party, which came third in terms of the popular vote, but which still, because of all of the arrangements that were done with the left during the election, because there was that deal done, I want my party to be the centre of the EU coalition. And I want all these left-wing people who are, a lot of align themselves with Melanchon, to leave Melanchon and to unite with my party so that we can have exactly the same kind of government that we had before. Now that's exactly what he's saying.

I mean, he's now coming out with that quite openly. We said that in our previous program about France, that that was his objective, and he's now come out, and he's making it absolutely clear, and he's making it obvious. And he's saying that he's not going to accept Lucy Castetz, despite, the fact that as we discussed previously, she's a classical establishment insider, but hardly different from him in any important respect. Anyway, he says he won't accept her because for the moment, she still wants to head a government in which Melanchon would play a leading role, and that for him is unacceptable.

So for the moment, the French left, other than me, Melanchon himself, are going through the motions because I think this is all that it is. They're going through the motions of saying, oh, no, no, no, we can't accept this. This is absolutely outrageous. The president is violating the Constitution, or at least the principles of the Constitution. He's acting contrary to democracy. We will never concede a situation where, instead of the left forming the government, Macron forms the government by cobbling together the coalition.

that he wants, we insist that he must accept Lucy Castes, we insist that he must accept Melanchon as an integral part of the government. And if he continues to take the line that he's taking, we're going to try to impeach him, as he rightly said, that's not going to happen. And we are also going to have protests across France, and we are going to perhaps even talk about some kind of general strike eventually, though that's not going to happen either.

So they're rattling around in the box, because to be absolutely clear, the point will come, and Macron's counting on this. And I think he is right. When within the left, which is an uneasy coalition of various groups, people are going to,

some of the sort of more establishment people on the left, are going to say to themselves, well, look, Ultimately, we're closer to Macron and his party than we are to Melanchon. Melanchon is this firebrand radical. He's got all sorts of ideas about Ukraine, which we're not really keen on because we're ultimately also part of the neoliberal global establishment. You know, we have to pretend for a while that we're going to stand with Melanchon

because, after all, that's what we told to our voters. But I think sooner or later they will come out and say, well, we don't agree. We think the president has behaved appallingly, but we have a higher responsibility to France. We can't leave France without a government. And though it breaks our hearts to do this and that we're deeply unhappy that it has to be done, nonetheless, very grudgingly, very unhappily, we're going to do what the president says and go into coalition with his party. And in return, we managed to persuade the president to make this huge concession,

which changes everything and makes it possible. He's going to accept Lucy Castet's as well as Prime Minister. I think that's where it's going. This is my own view. I think, as I said, you have all of this performative displays that we're seeing in the French Parliament. The left is talking. They're outraged. They're furious.

won't accept what Macron is doing. They're banging the table. They say, you know, we must be the people who form the government. But I think ultimately that is what they're going to do. Because you said that they'd been double-crossed. And of course, Macron has double-crossed. But of course, most of them, many of them, were willing accomplices to this double-cross. that knew exactly what was happening and they knew exactly what was going to happen when the election was over. And I think that in the end,

they're okay with what's going to come. I mean, I know that all this sounds incredibly cynical. But show me how cynicism about the situation that we've seen in France is unjustified. And as you rightly say, in the meantime, Macron is taking steps to show to people what a powerful and frightening figure he is, you know, Jupiter on high, hurling his thunderbolts. He has Dureuf arrested at Le Bourget Airport. He has a case concocted at lightning speed against Diorov, a man who at one time,

he was praising, he gave him French citizenship, he suggested the telegram base itself in France. He spoke about Durov as this great hero. As we see, trusting Macron on things like that, thinking that you have a good relationship with him, is the stupidest mistake you can make. Yeah. Dutrov, trusted Macron. Belichon, trusted Macron. Maybe you don't want to say trusted, but he aligned with Macron. I mean, he's the big reason.

loser in all of this, is he not? He is. I mean, because when his alliance, when his coalition partners go with Macron, I mean, Melonschop ends up being the big loser in all of this. But, you know, he also decided that it's better to trust Macron than to allow Le Pen to win. Yes. Yes. I mean, he

has been the useful idiot in French politics. I think this is the thing to say about this. Because in my opinion, Melonson would have been in a very strong position had events been allowed to take their course. If there hadn't been this deal done between the left and Macron during the French parliamentary elections, Le Pence party would have emerged with the majority, probably. They would probably have formed a government with the support of the republican. The party would have had many problems, the government would have had many, many,

problems at that point, but Macron himself would have been discredited. And who would have been leading the opposition to that government and able to parade that he was, you know, the great defender of France and the Republican tradition against a sinister force on the extreme right? Well, Melanchon, I mean, that is what an intelligent and shrewd political leader would have done. But he did it. He didn't want to do that. He couldn't stomach the idea of Le Pen forming a government. This is, you know, absolutely horrifying thought for him. So, of course, he listened to the siren voices, entered into this arrangement, agreed to enter into this arrangement with Macro of all people. And as you rightly say, he's now going to be completely isolated.

and marginalized, and Macron will come out on top. Does this help Macron's party? Macron's ideology, the globalists in 27, I believe, is when we're going to have the elections. Does this help them or will this hurt them in the end? Well, if we're talking about, if we were talking always about conventional politics, electoral politics, the way you and I once remember them being condemned, it should hurt them. I mean, it means that Le Pen and her party

are now the only opposition in France. The left is very soon going to be completely discredited. Even Melanchon, who, you know, has been marginalized, people will be saying, well, you know, he's led us in completely the wrong direction. He set out to oppose both Le Pen and Macron, and we've ended up with Macron as a result. So, I mean, you know,

logically, because things are not going to get better economically or politically in France over the next two years, this ought to set up Le Pen for victory in the 27 presidential elections. And that is what she thinks. But let's go back to the question of what has happened with Duroff, the arrests on Durauf. And of course, this is not an event that's happened in isolation.

We see all sorts of actions being taken to control information flows, lots of talk about what the Russians are supposedly doing in the information space, which is being used to control the information space even further. We see how law enforcement is being used. used. Who's to say that by 2027, all of those things won't have been taken very, very, very much further? And, you know, the word will go out in advance of the elections, that democracy is in peril. Action has to be taken to protect democracy from the danger of the extreme right, all kinds of The steps are taken therefore to harass Le Pen and her party.

Eventually, a massive campaign in the media is launched against it to justify whatever those steps are. And it proves impossible for Le Pen and her party in the end to mount a coherent election campaign. I mean, you know, I think we have to say this because this seems to me the direction of travel across the West now. electoral politics as we used to know them are breaking down and given the kind of government that we are likely to see formed in France before very long I suspect that process will be taken much further before long yeah two years is a long way off and a lot could happen for Le Pen or against Le Penh I mean, just to give you an example of the kind of atmosphere, I was read, now this is of course in Britain, but you know, it represents the mood across, I think, certainly Europe and much of the West. There's a well-known journalist and commentator here called John Kaffner, who historically has conceived, you know, has been identified with the left. he used to run a magazine or website or whatever it was called Index on Censorship

but he's now become if you like something of a disinformation warrior he's made a ferocious attack in the Guardian on Sarah Vagenet who is the leader of the left party in Germany the party that presents itself as being on the left, but he refers to her as being on the far right. Now, that is, I mean, he does this quite consciously. He knows exactly what he's doing. This isn't a slip. If you read his article at the Guardian carefully. And I think that we're going to have a situation where everybody is represented as being far right, part of some sinister force that must be fought at any kind of.

cost doesn't matter. Any any mechanism of the law of law enforcement must be used to protect us from this threat. And in two years, in France, they can do an awful law. Yeah. Absolutely. She's anything but far right. I know. Anyway, I know. But you see, she opposes the war She opposes support for Ukraine. She's got things to say about immigration, which are not the kind of things that people in the neoliberal center want to hear. She's got those kind of views,

and that, of course, must mean that she's aligned with the far right. All right, we will end the video there. The durand.orgas.com. We are on Odyssey Rumble, bitchchute, telegram, and we are also on Rakfin, and go to the Duran shop, pick up some merch you will find a link in the description box down below. Take care.