The Duran Podcast - UK uniparty agrees to hold July 4 elections

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

UK uniparty agrees to hold July 4 elections The Duran: Episode 1913

All right, Alexander, let's talk about the July 4th elections that are going to take place in the UK. What are your thoughts about the announcement of these elections? Sunak gave a short but interesting eight-minute speech full of lies, full of a lot of lies. and we have the possible prime ministership of Kirstomer on the way possible, unless something changes drastically in the next few weeks. So elections, interesting day to have elections, July 4th. What are your thoughts? I am sure that is coincidence that it's America's National Day.

I'm sure that isn't what the British were thinking about or why Sudak was thinking about. The first thing to say is that a lot of the media commentators, and it seems a lot of the Conservative MPs were blindsided by this decision, they were expecting an election in November or around November time, not as soon as this. And they're all incredulous that it's been called at this time. And the media. classes talking about this is a big gamble on Sunak's part. I have to say, you mentioned his speech in the pouring rain in London. I thought it was a dismal start for an election campaign. Neither Sunac nor Stama are experienced election campaigners. So that's going to be already an

interesting fact. I mean, you know, most British prime ministers by the time they become prime ministers know how to fight elections. Neither Sunac nor Starma do. They've no experience of this, no background in doing anything like this. So we'll see how it turns out. Already the opinion polls are saying, telling us two things. One, that we can predict a simply gigantic labours landslide and a complete conservative collapse. And secondly, that they don't expect any kind of change in this election and that there is no enthusiasm for either of the two main parties or either of the two main candidates, Sunak and Stama, neither of whom is unpopular.

So the big question everybody is asking is why did Sunak call the election now? And actually, I think there is an extremely simple answer to this. And it goes back to our last programme about British politics when we discussed the British regional elections, the local elections, which took place earlier in May, earlier this month. The reason is that neither party is popular.

And both parties, both Labour and Conservative, face the prospect or risk the prospect, that if they delay the election until the autumn, other parties to the right and to the left of them will start to organise and will start to bleed votes to take away votes from the two main parties and the result is we could have a situation

where the entire election changes and where who knows perhaps these other parties Reform UK on the right a more amorphous collection of parties on the left but maybe the Workers Party that George Galloway is trying to pull together, maybe the Greens who look strong in places like Bristol. Bristol is the British equivalent of San Francisco, I should say.

Its politics are very similar to that. Anyway, the fear, the British establishment, both conservative and labour, and if you like, the Uber establishment, the part of the establishment, we don't see, but which is ultimately the dominant force has, is that if they leave the election too long, these other parties, which are still a work in progress, will organise and that that will in effect provide them with an opportunity, maybe to enter the House of Commons, maybe to determine the election outcome. So the imperative became, after the local elections, hold the election as quickly as possible, there'll be probably a low turnout, but you get a big, solid

labour majority. The Conservatives go down, but they remain the second biggest party. You maintain control of the House of Commons and of the political system. And again, you don't allow the real parties, if you like, the real opposition on the left and the right to enter into politics. So if you accept the reality that Sunak is a unipati figure, and you accept the reality that Stama is also a uniparty figure, then calling the election now makes complete sense, and it is the uniparty collectively that has made the decision to call the election now.

Yeah, a uniparty decision. I was just about to say the same thing. It sounds like they got together and they decided, okay, now is the best time to have this election to benefit you guys as well as us, labor and conservatives. So let's slate it in there for July 4th. But what does it really accomplish? Okay, you're just delaying the inevitable, right? I mean, is Kirs Stomber going to do that? Is Kirsteber going to do that good of a job? No, he's going to be worse than. It's going to be worse than Sudak. So, I mean, it's, people, people hate the conservatives with Stommer. They're going to end up hating labor like they hate the conservatives.

And once again, you open up a pathway later down the line for maybe, maybe for a new party or new candidate to rise. But who knows if one of these candidates is out there. Yeah, well, you know, there is a comparison. Of course, I'm sorry, you know, I'm going to go down the road. British history. But there's been an interesting article in the Daily Telegraph, which talks about the election of 1906, which was in some ways a not dissimilar election. Conservatives have been in power for a very long time. They'd become very, very unpopular. Indeed, they were divided over many things, tariff reform specifically. And what basically happened is that though neither

the conservatives, nor their main opponents at that time, who were the Liberals, were particularly popular. An election was called, and the Liberals won with the biggest landslide that there has ever been in British electoral history. I mean, it was an absolute smash. And very quickly, the Liberals also became unpopular. And within about 10, 15 years, the Liberal Party collapsed and was replaced by the Labour Party. And some people are saying that this is the same kind of election that we're going to have this time, that we're going to have a conservative route. I don't think anybody doubts that. And there's even some people who think the conservatives might fall below 100 seats, which, well, I still find difficult to believe, but we'll

see. But a conservative route. A labor landslide. Labor on pop. but then new forces will emerge either to the left or to the right. As you say, you're kicking the can down the road and there will be an election in the future when everything changes. And these new parties are formed and the big parties are replaced by them. I have to say I'm not so sure. And I'll tell you why. In 1906, we had a completely different British political scene, a completely different political class, the old establishment, whatever you may think of them, they were committed to the British Constitution, they were committed to proper elections or elections being conducted in a proper way. They did not have

the authoritarian instincts of the political class today. I have to say this. I think much more likely, at least the plan of the UNI party of the British establishment, is get yourself a big Labor government, a big labor government with a very big majority, read by some very tough hardline figures. And you then pass all kinds of laws, and they're already being prepared, restricting protests, doing all kinds of things. And basically, you make it impossible for rival parties to organise themselves. So I think this is much more likely what is happening, that we're going to see a, continued immobilism within the political system.

An increasingly authoritarian term inside Britain itself. And of course, you're absolutely correct about one thing. No real answers to any of the problems that Britain is facing. I mean, I've never known a time when both of the major parties are coming to an election with no programme at all. I mean, there is no program either from the Conservatives or from the Labor Party. We have administration instead of government. But I have a fear, actually, that that is going to be our future for an indefinite period of time.

I'm not sure that this system that's now established itself is going to be broken very easily. Just saying. Maybe that's the plan, yeah. Well, I think it is. It makes sense. It makes sense. And it's great because you can, if you're the, the UK, you can talk about democracy and talk about how Russia and China and Iran are trying to take away our democracy and they're attacking our democracy.

While at the same time, you destroy, it erode away at your democracy and you become authoritarian. And you create this administrative government and you point fingers at the other authoritarian. That's what you label them. They're the authoritarian. They're the, we're the democracy. We're the free world. And, you know, people, people are focused on those guys while at home everything is being dismantled into this administrative government system. It makes sense, actually.

Absolutely. I think that is the plan. I mean, I should say that I think people are utterly cynical and can see through it. I think that, you know, back in 2022, when there was the start of the Ukraine war, a lot of people got very worked up about it in Britain, took it seriously, believed in a lot of what they were said. I think that's drained away, actually. And I think people are becoming impatient with a political class that is simply not interested in their concerns. And we're having a whole succession of scandals. We've had a succession, a scandal over the British post office when all sorts of people were charged with all kinds of crimes of embezzlement from the post office. And it turned out that none of that was true and all of these people were innocent.

And it was all the fault of a computer system that had been established by the post office. And it was all concealed by the leadership of the post office. office who were, as nobody, by the way, ever says, piloting the post office at the time towards privatisation, from which they also to benefit personally very much. Just saying, I mean, this isn't a side of the story that people talk about. And we've had another scandal involving infected blood, which goes all the way back to the 1980s, which appears also to have been massively covered up and all kinds of things like that, covered up, not just for years, but for decades. and that affects the National Health Service.

Both of these scandals tell us things about the quality of British governance today. More and more people are aware of this. As I said, there is disillusion and there is increasing cynicism. But I don't get the sense at the moment that this has come together that there's a critical mass of people prepared to challenge the UNI party head on. So, yes, there are parties to the left, and there are parties to the right. But I think if they can be knocked out of the system,

which is what we are seeing them trying to do, then I think the unity party will for the moment retain control. Just as they succeeded basically in sidelining, in basically sidelining Corbyn. And just as in the end, they succeeded in a dismantling Brexit, which is what most people voted for. And I think Brexit is the issue because this is a massive issue.

People voted for it. There was intense emotion and passion around it. But despite a referendum in 2016, despite a conservative victory in 2019, which is all about getting Brexit done, despite all of that, we're basically back where we started. And I think that has taken away a lot of the faith in politics that many people had.

So people have, for the moment, they've withdrawn, they've gone back into their lives. They're utterly cynical about politics, but they're not yet angry enough or desperate enough to do much about it. That's my own sense about the mood in Britain today. Yeah. So you've got to clamp down on the people before something happens, unforeseen, like the rise of of a Fizzo and Orban, a Putin, a Trump, whatever, left, right, whatever you may think of all of these people, that's the last thing you want to see happen. Someone like that rise to, to the forefront and gain momentum. And then, then you've got political problems if you're the establishment.

So, yeah, you got to nip all of this in the bud. You've got to do it now. Exactly. Exactly. So that's why you have an election now. Of course, the fate of Britain and, whole is a dismal one because as has become absolutely obvious not just in Britain but in Europe to some extent even in the United States the people who are in charge now have no interest in the problems that really affect Britain they've got no real plan of how to change things around you see this in their manifest that we haven't yet have the manifesters but there's no program of action, no real idea of what to do. And so, I mean, decline, gradual decline,

things that continue to slip backwards, no real program about how to take things forward. It is ultimately unsustainable, but it could last a long time. And that's, in some ways, the worst possible fate that can await a country. Well, there is a problem. just to wrap up the video, there is a program that not only the UK has, but I think much of Europe is implementing. And it is an economic program. It's a defense program, and that is to ramp up for a possible five or 10-year war with Russia. Five or ten years in the distance. I mean, so they're ramping up now, and they're allocating money and resources to prepare for this smash with Russia that's going to take place in.

in five or ten years. I believe Shaps actually said in five years. So Britain has to start building up its military now. So, I mean, there is a program and there's a lot of money to be made amongst the establishment and the MIC companies. Yeah, but the people aren't going to see any of it. That's for sure. There's a lot of talk about this. There's, as you say, a lot of money. Truth, we haven't yet seen it. I mean, there's been a lot of talk about increasing the proportion of GDP that Britain allocates the defence, but not really much sign of that happening so far. Sunnet talks about it, but I don't know how far anybody believes him. But of course, again, as we've seen timing again, money can be found for these things.

Translating that money into actual military equipment is a completely different matter. And given that we are in early stages of a major budgetary, debt crisis in Britain, I wonder whether that's really actually going to work very well going forward. We're not the United States. We can't just print money indefinitely in the way that the United States has been able to do. So it might not be actually much of a policy in Britain either. I get to say, I think what we'll probably see in Britain is a gradual, steady decline in every aspect of public life, that which we've been seeing for a long time, a British economy that is losing its positions, the city of London no longer the force that it was in international finance,

for example, of all of that, all carrying on. Life, for many people, will remain very pleasant. It's a rich country. It's got lots of accumulated wealth and resources, but as I say, a slow, gradual decline. I think that is where we are. As I said, projects to the right and projects to the left have all been shut off and of course change to foreign policy absolutely no way. No one who has any ideas about how to look again at Britain's foreign policy and try to get us into a better position than the one we're in at the moment. Again, all of those people shut out of the system and not just marginalized, but, you know, ridiculed and mocked and abused as well. So this election, Farage, for example, out in the wilderness, Corbyn also out in the wilderness.

He's trying to stand as an independent template. Yeah, well, foreign policy has been outsourced to the United States. So, yeah, they've outsourced. Foreign policy. One less decision that they have to make. Foreign policy has been outsourced to the neocons in the United States. And their great terror is an administration in the United States, which is not part of the neocon system. Because if they're friends in Washington lose power, then they're in a very difficult whole indeed.

which is one of the reasons they're so involved in U.S. politics at this time. Just so. Yeah, well, I think the neocons have a much stronger hold on the UK than they do on the U.S. I agree. So even if the neocon power diminishes in the U.S., I think they're holding the UK is rock solid. I absolutely agree with that. Yeah. All right.

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