The Duran Podcast - US/EU privately admit they lost Ukraine proxy war w/Levan Gudadze (Live)

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

US/EU privately admit they lost Ukraine proxy war w/Levan Gudadze (Live)

Okay, we're live with Alexander Mercuris in London, and we have with us, once again, joining us on the Duran. Very happy to have on our show today. Have to be with us on our show today. Levon, Gudadze. Levon, how are you doing? Thank you very much. I'm okay. Grateful for this unique opportunity to be on Duran.

And very thankful for all the support that you are providing for our community, for smaller creators. I wanted to mention this. Duran is a great, great show and a truly unique opportunity. Thank you very much. And thanks to thank you to your community, of course, Duran community. Levan, what are the best places for people to connect with you? I have your YouTube channel, the description box down below. I know that you're also on Rumble, Telegram, Twitter.

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and I will have all the other links in the description box as well. So you can follow Levin's excellent work and analysis on geopolitics. Let's say a quick hello to everyone that is watching us on Odyssey, on Rockfin and Rumble. How's everyone doing? on the Rumble chat. And everyone that is watching us on the durand.locals.com, a big hello to the Durand community,

a big hello to everyone that is watching us on YouTube. A big hello and a big thank you to our YouTube moderators, Valies. Zareel is in the house. And I think that is it for today. It'll be Zariel, Valias, and myself moderating this chat. Thank you very much, Zaryel and Valia. for all you do. And Alexander, Levan, we've got a lot of news to discuss.

So let's talk a bit about Project Ukraine. Maybe we can talk about what's going on in Georgia as well, since we have Levin with us today. So Alexander, Levan, let's begin. Indeed, let us, because lots going on. And, of course, the two conflicts, the one in Georgia and the one in Ukraine, are interconnected. At least if you follow the Western media, they are.

they seem to be considering they link them together. They say that it's Russian imperialism in relation to both of them. Of course, they don't want to look at any internal issues that might involve or concern or affect either of these two countries. But that's where we are. I suggest Levin that we begin with Ukraine, but we do need to get to Georgia eventually. But let's begin with Ukraine. We've had now a situation where the Russians have been.

advancing steadily for something like, I think, 10 months. I mean, they began their advance in October. In December, they captured Marinka. In February, they captured Bachmut. The last few days, they appeared to have captured a cool part of Krasnogorovka. They're attacking in all kinds of other places. The Western media is beginning to wake up to the fact that there are these Russian advances, that they're discounting.

They're trying, I think, to sort of play down their significance, and they're not reporting it very much. But we're starting to get rather interesting articles begin to appear. So the day before yesterday, there was an article by a man called Gideon Rackman in the Financial Times, very well-connected, very well-informed journalists in the United Kingdom. And he seemed to broach finally the possibility. of negotiations to end the war. And he made the, I thought, astonishing admission

that Western governments and the Ukrainian government itself now understand that Ukraine will not be able to recapture its lost territories. So that was on the Financial Times, but it was not, it was an opinion article. Then the day after, and I don't think this is chance, another article appeared in the German newspaper Die Welt, very well-connected newspaper in Germany, doesn't have an enormous circulation, but it's connected in some way to the CDU, the German CDU, big party in Germany, biggest party in Germany, in fact,

and the primary government party in Germany. And they said essentially the same thing, that in Brussels, it's widely not accepted, understood that Ukraine will not recover its lost territories. And though they expect the war to continue for six to nine months, they believe that after that time we will have negotiations. And there have been other hints and murmurings to the same effect in other places. But these are two big articles and the developed article I thought was an important one. Are we in the end game? I mean, are they starting to understand that the war is lost? because that's how it's starting to look to me.

I think so. Yes. Yes, probably they do. Realize finally that this proxy war that Western Rurali class was waging against Russia is lost. And in confirmation of that, we are seeing lately change in a tune from Kiev also. It's not just Brussels, not just articles in the West,

but Zelensky is changing his statements. Kuleba, foreign minister of Ukraine, also during his recent trip to China, mentioned negotiations. And I believe it was yesterday or day before when Zelensky spoke with the French media outlets. And he said, basically acknowledged that it is practically impossible for a year to regain control over their territories is that Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in the USSR hold it until 1991, which is quite a rare occasion when high-ranking officials in Ukraine acknowledging that. And Zelensky also mentioned once again that next forum

or next summit on Ukraine, that's supposed to take place before presidential election in US. On that summit, Russia should be invited. And also he mentioned referendum, which is quite important in my opinion because he said, if translation was correct, that president only cannot make decisions about territorial integrity of Ukraine and therefore referendum had to be held and public should decide. So this is a huge acknowledgement on part of Kiev. And I guess Zelensky, before making such statements, had some consultations with his Western backers to say so. And this is huge, of course, huge shift from what we were hearing months and months before this. So yes, despite all the attempts of the Western political elites, Western media,

to create a picture that it is a stalemate on the front line, that no one side is able to achieve much. As you mentioned, Alexander, Russian armed forces had their steady progress all this time, despite the fact that Russia is deploying the strategy of mobile defense, which is not about gaining control over there as much territory as possible. It's about demilitarizing the regime forces to create circumstances in which key region forces will collapse. And then we might see shift in a strategy when some decisive actions will take place because that will minimize, of course, casualty numbers and also damage on the ground to

infrastructure, which is important for Russia. So, yes, I will agree with this view that there is clearly change in attitude in the West and also in the Q. But here, of course, is the paradox because they understand. I think that this is now general widespread view, actually. I don't think it's just, as I say, if you newspeck or articles, as I said, the DeVelt article said, it's the consensus in Brussels. now. And of course, Brussels means NATO and the EU. Their two headquarters are both located in Brussels. In Brussels. If you know Brussels, as I do, I know very well. I've been there many times. My brother used to live there. The people from the two places meet and talk and interchange this constant, and they send their children to the same schools and they have the same contacts.

So it's a single community of people, basically. Anyway, if this is the general consensus, why don't they start negotiations now? Because DeVille talks about six to nine months. I mean, what did they think is going to happen in the next six to nine months? Do they think that the situation is going to change in some way on the military side? Or why are they postponing negotiations? Probably presidential elections in US. Probably. I may be wrong, but probably it's all about presidential elections in US.

I don't think Democrats, Biden's administration, wants another Afghanistan style of withdrawal from a certain conflict from this proxy war that West is waging against Russia. And therefore, I believe Western ruling class will try to prolong this conflict. as much as possible, at least before presidential elections for sure. And therefore, we are receiving information now that F-16s, for example, being deployed, which is clearly next stage of escalation, although, of course, F-16 is not going to change much on the battlefield, but it is escalation. And Ammavreider, Washington will try to prolong this conflict exactly for this reason. just to pass over this presidential elections and then new administration will

will see what they can do. How to withdraw from this conflict without a huge debacle, let's say, or huge losses in terms of reputation. Although worldwide on world stage, I don't think Biden's administration has any credibility at all at this point. Yeah. I'm going to like an even more cynical view. I think if they say six months, that brings us basically to the end of this year, a give or take.

And of course, they say six months because that will take us beyond the election. But if Trump wins and there's a collapse and we have to start negotiations in six months time, we blame it on him. If we're talking about nine months, that takes us to the inauguration of the new president. and if Kamala wins, well, then it's her problem and no longer bindance. So I think this is really what this is about. I think it's just a cynical and straightforward as that. I think you're absolutely right, Levin. It is entirely dictated by the American political timetable.

And of course, the tragedy of it is that people die in the meantime. I mean, the fighting goes on. People are dying in order to spare embarrassments, even creating. greater embarrassments for one particular party and its current president in the United States. That's what I think. That's my end. And in addition, in addition, I will say that just recently, Abtia al-Dino, head of Akbar special forces and high-ranking official in Russian Defense Ministry also said that this conflict very well my end

before end of 2024, sorry. And he being high-ranking official, of course, knows much better situation. on the ground, then I can know. So, yes, that's also a point. And I agree with you completely, yes, that's... I mean, that's the other point, because, of course, I mean, that may be the American timetable, the preferred American timetable to keep it back for six to nine months

and the timetable in Brussels. But, I mean, do the Russians follow the same timetable? Because they have a word in this. It's one of the things that. that really always amazes me about Westerners, is that they always have this inability to see that the other side has a point of view and maybe making moves at the same time.

And, you know, what might the Russians do? I mean, are they, I mean, they're listening to all of this. They must know about these articles. They're hearing about all of these signals from Zelensky. I mean, do they, I mean, are they going to change their policies? Are they going to start shifting towards a negotiation pivot? is, oh, they're just going to continue to violence? No, I believe quite a number of high-ranking officials,

including Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said that even if negotiations will start, Russian side will not stop military operation. So Russian side will not allow Western ruling class to gain, you know, use this time to rear, reinforce the regime and to start hostilities with the additional forces. Moscow remembers perfectly well what happened with Minsk one, Minsk two agreements. And trust is, of course, a big deal, very big deal now.

And also several points. First of all, as you mentioned, rational forces are advancing significantly on the line of contact. There are reports that we might expect significant sectoral scale. Russian offensive now in several directions. Troops are ready. Today, it's Zaporosius of Donetsk sector, where we're already seeing quite significant progress on Avdayoq direction, for example, on New York-Tarek

Anglomeration. Also, expectations are that in Kupianzka direction, we might see offensive operations. And everybody is talking about Kharkov, of course, nowadays. So therefore, it is highly likely, if we take in account recent developments, that we might see beginning of the end of Q regimes and forces as a more or less capable entity in fairly short time.

In next month or two, maybe. I'm not military expert, but I see that QR regime forces cannot hold to defense lines whenever Russian troops are increasing pressure. And this is nowhere more reasonable than in the Uka direction, and we almost on a daily basis have reports about Russian control over this settlement and that settlement, and this is happening constantly. As you mentioned, of course, Washington may have its own plans, but Moscow is acting based on

its own interests, its own vision of the reality on the ground. And also, another point is that Moscow was quite clear about point of legitimacy. When it comes to negotiations, Moscow was very clear that Zelensky is. not seen in Moscow as a legit leader of the Ukraine and therefore door is open for negotiations. So I believe at this point one may even argue that recent statement of Russian president when he announced this roadmap basically towards peace is still open. This generous in my opinion proposal. But question is about legitimacy.

Who will negotiate from the side of Kiev? and who will sign agreements if there will be any. And until Kiev or Western backers of the Kiev will resolve this issue, Moscow are going to find it difficult to enter any meaningful negotiations at all. That's also I. I completely agree. And that, of course, then brings us back to the next point, because, of course, if we do see a collapse on the part of the Ukrainian military, over the next two or three months, in other words, in the run-up to the presidential elections in November,

if it turns out that the West and the United States does not have the six to nine-month runway that they hope they do, what do they do? I mean, do they have any plan up their sleeve? I think you're absolutely right, by the way. I mean, I'm getting the sense that the Russian military is building up its forces all the time. I mean, I don't know whether you saw it, but General Siersky, who is the Ukrainian commander, gave an interview to the Guardian, which I think has been widely misunderstood, including by the Guardian. I think it's basically telling them that, you know, we can't win this. I mean, you know, the other side is huge, and it's getting huger.

We're getting bigger all the time. This is what we're up against. We can't possibly win against it. It was his attempt basically to educate them and make them understand that, you know, this is a critical situation. Now, you know, what do they do? You've talked about the F-16s. There's been lots of murmurings and rumors and talk about allowing missile strikes by the Ukrainians deep inside Russia, that kind of escalation. The instinct I've always felt is to escalate.

I mean, will they escalate or will they decide, my God, this is all turning to pieces, going to pieces. We need to negotiate fast. What do you think the West is going to do in this position? I'm afraid you are absolutely correct and the Western Runiclass will escalate. They have no reverse gear. They're not going to de-escalate. And the F-16s, it's one way. Also, recently there was reports about deployment of significant number of military equipment from Germany to Poland, for example.

it's like 70 tanks, 150 infantry fighting vehicles, I guess. Eventually, maybe this equipment will end up in hands of Kiev regime. Amofrider, Western backers of Kiev made demand from Zelensky to lower mobilization age, and there is already a draft bill in a state, rather, in Ukrainian parliament, to lower mobilization age up to 18 years, sir, so that if they were, if they were, if they will pass this bill, they will be able to mobilize even forcefully mobilize even more people, teenagers even. And also, also, I'm afraid because the regime or Western ruling class didn't manage to isolate Russia, didn't manage to beat Russia militarily, politically. I'm afraid they're

going to resolve into terrorism activity. And I think Russian security services are now focused, very much focused exactly on this direction because what else they're going to do? They cannot beat Russia militarily and I'm afraid they will use some extreme radical groups to start campaign of terror inside Russia. I hope Russian security services are ready for this possibility. Do you think this is what that telephone call from Bel-U.Suf to US? Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was all about. There's lots of stories and discussions about what that was all about because the New York Times tells us that, you know, well, Ouse said, you know, the Ukrainians

are about to do something absolutely crazy? Are you involved? And the Americans said, no, we're not involved. And we agree this is crazy. And they tell the Ukrainians to back off. But, I mean, do you believe the American side of this? And do you think that this is, I mean, the terrorist thing that is what this is all about, basically. I think this conversation between Beloso and Lloyd Austin happened shortly after this attack and a crime on which, when a huge number of people were injured and therefore civilians were killed. And I think probably Belosso was very clear in a message that Russia will not tolerate. any longer appears

of this intelligence drones of NATO over the Black Sea that are according to some reports actively participating in coordinating these strikes with long range weapon systems attack arms high Mars, scalp

eG and probably I saw that article that you mentioned probably they also spoke about terrorist activity of their gear and probably strong warnings were issued because if something like Crocus City Hall tragedy happens again, I'm afraid Moscow will find itself in a corner when some extreme measures have to be taken.

And I guess at least it seems like Pentagon listened to whatever warnings were issued by Russian side. Belau also and also a little shortly before that, I believe, ambassador of the US was some. into embassy and according to some reports, very strong warnings were issued there also. So, yes, I guess it's connected with these long-range strikes of the Q regime and also with the threats of terrorist activity of Ukraine's main intelligence directorate and their SBA state security service. What would these sort of escalations actually achieve? I mean, missile strikes deep inside Russia, terrorist activities inside Russia.

That's not going to make the Russians negotiate what they negotiate. It's going to make them angry. I mean, that's what I would have thought. It's not going to solve the problem if Ukraine's front lines started collapse. It's going to increase the determination of the Russians to make the front lines collapse. So, I mean, but, you know, you've been following the media in the West. you be keeping an eye on what the Russians are thinking. Do the Russians sense that, I mean, because you're in Moscow,

do the Russians feel that they're dealing with logical, rational people on the Western side? Because I sometimes wonder about that myself. No, that's the point, that if you conduct some study, just go on the street and ask the first hundred people what they think, majority probably will be thankful, thankful for very cautious policies of the Russian leadership because it seems like only adults in the room at this point are president of Russia,

foreign minister of Russia and other high-ranking officials because as you mentioned, you might get impression by watching policies of the major capitals in the West that they lost touch with reality really. And it is very difficult to deal with her. in such situation with your opponents, isn't it?

Because they are capable of anything and Ammafride maybe one of their directions of the Western political elites is to force Russia to use some extreme force. I'm afraid that may be also reasoning behind

these recent escalations like F-16s or something else may also happen in coming days to force Russia to use some extreme force, which will be then used as additional fuel to further demonize Russia, to further antagonize people public in the West that look, I mean, we are fighting with this evil force and that kind of stuff. So maybe they want to corner Russian leadership, basically, with terrorist attacks, with

deeper, deep strikes to force Moscow to use some extreme force. And after all, at some point, Amof-Ride, Moscow may end up in such situation when they are dealing with these reckless opponents from, in my opinion, from the western side. And for example, and Moscow was issuing quite a number of warnings, isn't it? For example, yesterday, a third stage of non-nuclear exercises began in Russia. This is, I believe, a first time since the collapse of Soviet Union when Russian armed forces conducting this multiple stage military drills on deployment of non-sublime. strategic nuclear weapons, which is on its own supposed to be warning, but maybe this is

exactly what Western ruling last wants. To counter Russia, Russian leadership, and to force to use this extreme force. I'm afraid it's not going to happen, but I mean, if you take a look at the policies of the West, this constant escalation, then I don't know. What else they want to achieve, really because it's nonsensical. They already lost. It don't take the genius to realize that Western ruling class already lost this proxy war against Russia. That's how I see.

Is there anyone in Russia? I mean, I haven't to know there is, but what is the feeling in Russia at the moment about this war? I mean, I'm not talking about the political class. I mean, the general public in Russia. The

sense that I'm getting is that most Russians have now also come to the view that the war is about to be, you know, is going to be won and that their army is going to win and that there's, you know, quite confidence about this. Anato Levin has done an article recently talking about the very calm atmosphere that he found in Moscow. I've heard other people say the same, that the mood is very calm, very confident. is though, you know, a much discussion about the war? Do people in Russia talk about, you know, large numbers of casualties?

Do you see people, you know, with, you know, missing lens in the streets and that kind of thing? Is the visible sign of damage from the war, that kind of thing? I mean, what is the picture in Russia at present time amongst the wider population? public here had never doubt that Russia will win this conflict, not even for a second. That's first of all. And of course, if a special military operation is in the conversation 100%. People are talking about it because almost hundreds of thousands of military personnel was involved and are involved in this operation. So therefore, everybody has a relative or knows someone who, one way or another, participated in this conflict, including me, myself, to my relatives, participated in this special military operation.

One was winded, both survived. So, yes, it is in a conversation, but there is no doubts that Russia is winning this conflict, although I have to notice that people, if you conduct yet again study, people will tell you that this is not the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. This is conflict between Russia and NATO. This is the attitude also. You will find this attitude in majority. And therefore, the timeframe of this conflict does not come up as a number one topic, because when you're realizing that you are in conflict with not just one, not just two, but dozens of countries that are NATO member states and all of them are providing Ukraine, as their proxy with money with weapons, you realize that his conflict not going to end in a

month or two months time. So therefore, public is confident 100%. Rating of Russian leader, President Putin, is record high and it stays on high numbers since the special military operation begun, exactly because of the realization that it's a proxy war that West is waging against Russia. You ask me about consequences of this conflict, if you see on the streets, people with lost their hands or, you know. Unfortunately, sometime, sometime you do. I clearly notice this a few times.

But yet again, situation is, this is unfortunate, of course, but this is a large-scale, high-intensity conflict. But yet again, there is no punch. in society, society is standing strong, basically, and are in support of Russian military. And situation is really calm. Situation is really calm. If you are visiting Russia for a short time, you may not even realize that Russia is involved in this high-intensity conflict. That's the objective reality.

Because I'm going to tell you, Shots away, that there is a line of thought in the West, and you see it reflected in the media. I mean, there was an article again the other day by very well-known, very well-connected British journalist called Roger Boyce, who basically said was, yes, the Russians are advancing. They're gaining ground all the time, but we can still force them into negotiations on, you know, our terms, because their casualty rate is so high. They're losing a thousand men a day. And the result is that the population simply can't absorb this, much longer and that Russia is reaching its breaking point. I mean, I mean, we have any comment to make about that. But I mean, there was an article, literally. I mean, that was its basic line in the times. And it said, you know, we've got a time window because he admitted that by the time

leaves, the mood will change and that, you know, there won't be support for the war, so much support for the war in the West. But he said, until then, we've got to escalate. got to do everything you possibly can to increase the casualty rate even further, because if we do that, the Russians will crack. I mean, is there any basis of that in your view? No, absolutely not. It's total nonsense.

I cannot take that kind of statement seriously. It's just, I mean, it's nonsense. What I can comment on that? It has nothing to do with their objective reality. Unfortunately, of course, casualty numbers are high. This is high intensity conflict. But just recently, Russian president stated that rate is about 5 to 1 or 7 to 1. That was a statement.

And I guess he knows better than I do. Casualty numbers are high, but if the regime and Alexander, just a few days ago, Abtiel Alden, I already mentioned him, head of Ahmad special forces stated that since the beginning of special military operation, K-Rigieghing forces suffered, irretrievable losses up to 700,000 military personnel. We can take this statement with pinch of salt. We can take any information during the conflict with a pinch of salt, but if you even have this number, let's say. If Kiv regime suffered, if Ukraine suffered like 350,000, 400,000 losses, and they still didn't, new regimes, our forces didn't collapse.

We did not see any internal disturbances, at least yet in Ukraine. How anybody can think that Russia, which is like unimaginably bigger, stronger, and in population-wise, three, four times has more population, how can anybody say that if Ukraine iswithstanding this pressure, but well, Russia is going to collapse tomorrow or day after, it's total nonsense. It just don't make really any sense. No, it's, I cannot tell you exact number of casualties because officially this information is not shared with public yet.

But, well, if Abtiel-Aoudino is saying that the regime suffered about 700,000 intra-personnel, he is official, Russian president said their casualty rate is about 1 to 5 or 1 to 7. and then one may do some map and imagine approximate level of casualties on Russian side. But yet again, I cannot say exact number because I just don't know. Nobody in public knows. What would the Russian public feel about negotiations? If we found ourselves in a situation in a couple of months where the Ukrainians are coming and saying, look, we want to negotiate.

and the official position of the Russian government is, if the Ukrainians want to talk, we will talk with them. And if that happens, if we actually get into a situation where the two sides sit down and start negotiations, how will the Russian people feel about this? Will they be angry? Will they be happy? Will they trust their government to negotiate effectively?

Will it so mistrust? what will be the response in your opinion? You know, I myself was thinking about very disquestion quite a number of times. And I guess many people in Russia, I don't have stats, but I guess many people will have same reading of the big picture. If negotiations will start now and conflict will end based on recent. quite generous, in my opinion, peace proposal of a Russian president, which is, Kiev is withdrawing forces from new Russian regions. And once this withdrawal starts,

Russia is ceasing hostilities. There will be no military operations up to that. And meaningful negotiations will start. Kiev has to recognize Russian sovereignty over their new regions, Sevastopol, Crimea, Ferson, Zaporosia, DPR, LPR. And there was number of of steps after that also. If this roadmap will be implemented, let's say, I think significant number, I'm not going to say majority, but I think significant number of public here will be a bit upset because there are many expecting that entire southern eastern Ukraine will be liberated from here, from Kharkiv to Odessa region.

For many people, this is very important. But yet again, I already. mentioned that Russian president has huge support, huge approval rating. And even though the public will be bit disappointed that from Kharkov to Addessa would not be liberated. In that case, they will support whatever decision will be made. Because after all, that will mean, end of hostilities, which is, I mean, who are going to be against ending this conflict? But I believe, I believe public will... public is expecting Russian forces to liberate from Kharkov to Odessa,

Kharkov, Denepro-Petrosk region, Zaporosia region entirely, and Odessa region, up to border of the Transnistria. That's the expectation in Russia, at least, I believe. So, I mean, it's all depends. Whatever decision will be made by Moscow, I think a public will be in large support, But even if they are not happy that under certain circumstances, let's say if the president's recent initiative will be implemented, Kharko and Odessa will stay as a part of Ukraine, maybe as some sort of, I don't know, autonomous or something to make sure that the rights

of the Russian speakers there will be protected. But in general, that this is my understanding, that the public is expecting from Kharko to But whatever decision will be made, Russian president will have support of the public. What about the last point, which I often come across in the West now, which is that Russia can get all the territory that it has, but it must agree in any deal

that Ukraine continues to have the right to join NATO. I mean, this is what Gideon Raton said in that article I was talking about, that insisting that Ukraine won't join NATO is a maximalist demand. That's what he called it. And that Russia, if he wants peace in Ukraine, must give it up. It can have its territory, but it must agree to allow Ukraine enter NATO. Is there any way you think that the Russians will agree to that? No, no.

Just in my personal opinion, I believe Ukraine and modern Ukraine is destined to to undergo full-scale disintegration. And in my reading of the big picture, most likely Western Ukraine at some point and will end up under NATO control, Western Ukraine. Rest of the Ukraine, with exception of Kiev and surrounding areas, may remain as a Ukraine as a state on the political map, but rest of the territory will be controlled by Russia.

And Moscow was very clear that whatever will remain from modern Ukraine on political map should be neutral. There is no way they're going to allow it to join. No way Russia will agree on Ukraine to join NATO. But question is about Western Ukraine, in my opinion, because I still remember a statement of Russian president when he said it was 2023, if I remember correctly, when he said that in Poland, there are elites that are sleeping and dreaming about regaining control over there are parts of Western Ukraine that used to be Poland before Second World War.

And Putin said, I am paraphrasing now that Putin. said that, I mean, they may dream about it, but they should know that we will also don't give up what is ours. Question is what Putin meant under ours from Kharkov to Odessa or Kiev also. That's a question for me personally. But Western Ukraine theoretically, yes, may join NATO. And probably in that case, that means that Poland, Hungary and Romania will have claims on those territories in the West. And even surrounding it, may maintain statehood, some sort of on the political map, rest of the Ukraine most likely will be controlled by Russian Federation.

And eventually, through referendums and there are some legal steps, we'll join Russian Federation, as new regions did. That's my understanding of the... Yeah. I think you're essentially right, by the way. Shall we move on to discuss Georgia? because there's a huge amount of commentary and discussion in the West about Georgia. The US government is making one comment and very menacing statement about Georgia after the other. They were very, very angry about the NGO law, the foreign agents law, the Georgia passed.

There's lots of talk about Georgia backsliding, falling under Russian control, copying its law from Russia. And, of course, we have elections coming up in Georgia very soon. Yes. And likely protests and all that kind of thing. First of all, what do you think is going to happen in Georgia? I mean, I sent you an article by Anato Levin, the same person we talked about,

in which he predicted that after the elections, there will be a, if Georgian dreams, if the government is re-elected, there will be a regime changer, I mean, do you think that's true? Do you think that's what's going to happen? And how popular actually is the government? I mean, is it likely to win the election in your opinion?

Yes, unfortunately, unfortunately, it's almost inevitable that after 26 October parliamentary elections in Georgia, there will be disturbances and attempt to overthrow government. I'm 100% convinced. percent convinced in the utter. And not because opposition is popular in Georgia. Government current ruling party, despite some criticism of it, I have relatives in Georgia. I speak to Georgians just all the time. I am myself originally from Georgia, so I know this republic quite well. Ruling party is significantly more popular than any other party in in opposition. And what usually happens when Western ruling elites are getting involved in

internal policies of the countries. They break out parties into like several, three, four, five, then create some blocks from these parties and pretend that entire opposition is united to achieve this and achieve that. That's a strategy that we see time after time after time in many countries. And unfortunately, very same has happened in Georgia. And this so-called opposition parties, if you dig in in their history, you will find out that founders, almost all of them are associated with Sakashvili and his government during his reign. And Sakashvili, of course, was president of Georgia at the time. And he came to power as a color revolution.

So unfortunately, yes, it is highly probable that after parliamentary elections, there will be disturbances in Georgia and and Washington will will try to overthrow government because I don't think Western ruling class is happy with their 90% client states or 95% client states. They want 100% control and current government of Georgia clearly demonstrates that they have a will to based their foreign policies and internal policies on national. interest as they see it. That's why this law about foreign agents were passed recently. And after all, Prime Minister of Georgia, Ereplica of Bahad, several times in publicly was seeing making statements that U.S. already tried in 2022 and 2023 to finance and organize

regime change. And I'm afraid nothing has changed since then. And one should keep in mind that current president of Georgia, Salome Zurabishvili, is also, I will say, asset of the West. She is actively criticizing government. Georgia is a parliamentary republic and the majority of powers on the hands of prime minister and government. But still, Georgia's president is highly criticizing. And already, they've been reports that president of Georgia may even not recognize results of the elections. And we all know how this color revolution start. There are elections, the so-called opposition is not recognized, not recognizing results.

Then Western states not recognize results. And unfortunately, it's like Avalanche, isn't it? And they are creating destabilization and overthrowing governments. Relatively recently, security services of Georgia made statements about groups. groups inside Georgia and outside of Georgia. And when they say outside, they named Ukraine. But of course, behind Ukraine, we may also see certain states and institutions in those states. And basically statement of Georgia's security service was that certain groups inside and outside of Georgia are planning destabilized country, including with use of force.

And when they are talking about use of force, they are articulating Georgian legion that is fighting in Ukraine on behalf of the regime. This is armed group, very well capable group. And right now, as we speak, in Georgia, investigation is underway, not just about attempt to overtro government, but also to assassinate former Prime Minister of Georgia and founder of current ruling party, Georgian Dream, Bidinawan Ischwili, and number of other current and former high-ranking officials. And the investigation is questioning members of,

Georgian legions that went back to Georgia from Ukraine. So threat, amof-right is very real, and Georgian government needs to take all their necessary measures to protect society, to protect public and the republic itself. Otherwise, they have very strong enemies, and after all, they are free later agencies in the U.S., that are professionals in overthrowing governments, or at least used to be because they are trying,

now in Venezuela and at least for now, they're unsuccessful. Well, they've been unsuccessful, but of course, as you correctly said, the government in Venezuela is at least unified. The government in Georgia with the president who is hostile is not unified. Do you think that the government, the current government in Georgia, has the resources, putting aside whether it's got the will, but the resources to resist this kind of color revolution attemptively? comes. Government clearly has public support because just to have some reference, for Georgia

Sakashvili's regime, this Sakashvili's reign is almost similar as for Russians' 90s. And we'll know 90s was horrible. And when you say in Georgia, Saakashvili, people are horrified. There is no way majority in Georgia will ever support anybody that has any affiliation with Saakashvili and his regime. That's how bad this regime was for people. Therefore, Georgian government clearly has public support, no doubt about it. But when it comes to unity in the government, well, that's a big question. And I also mentioned several times in my updates that it is highly likely that certain groups in the West may have their assets inside the government of Georgia. And if this unity will break, and not just in government, but also in security forces, in defense ministry, in security services, in police.

And if unity breaks and if certain armed groups of police or armed forces will take aside of this so-called opposition, then of course risks that government in Georgia would not survive attempt of color revolution, those chances will be next to none. But if they will maintain this unit, if they will conduct all their preventive measures to make sure that there will be. be in such instances when certain special forces, for example, or certain officers are changing the sides. If security forces stay out of politics, in that case, there is no way, no way this so-called opposition is going to manage to overthrow government. This is very clear to me that if forces, security forces stayed out of politics, there's no way the circle the opposition will successfully conduct this regime change. One very last question. Why?

Why is the United States and the West so interested in Georgia? I mean, I ask this question. First of all, I mean, the current government of Georgia objectively is quite pro-Western already. So why do you want to overthrow it? That's the first question. But the second is, why is there so much interest in Georgia? I mean, you know, Georgia is a country with a colloquial. history, extending all the way back to, you know, the ancient world, continuous history, tremendous civilization, extraordinary culture, tremendous artistic contributions.

But it's a small country. It's not, you know, a major, you know, geopolitical block. It's not the size of Ukraine, for example. So what is the American interest in Georgia and indeed in Armenia next door? Why are the... they so obsessed with these places? I mean, what do they think they can achieve them? I think, first of all, as I said just a minute ago, I guess Western ruling class cannot take when a certain client state is not 100% controlled. They want 100%. Not 90, not 95, 100%. And secondly, I'm afraid one of the main reasons why US or Western ruling class is so upset with with Georgia

and why they are involved in Georgia and Armenia, for example, is that China is making big steps towards this direction. US openly criticized Georgian government for cooperating with China, for example, in terms of building an

nuclear deep state, deep sea port on a black sea coaster. There was other projects, Goodover, for example, when Chinese companies are involved, and this is a north-south trade route that connects Russia, Georgia, then Armenia, Iran, and you are on the Mediterranean, sorry, on the Persian Gulf. So it's about full control and also it's about

China. It's about creating some disturbances for China because I don't think Washington is happy with cooperation with Silk Road, for example. Chinese Silk Road that extends for thousands and thousands of kilometers all the way, including in Caucasus region. So I think this is one of the reasons why Georgia and Armenia is under this scrutiny of Washington. And also maybe some experts are correct. And also Georgian government made quite a number of statements that there are forces in the West, in Ukraine and in the West, that won't use Georgia as a kind of second front.

against Russia. So it is also connected maybe with Russia to sacrifice Georgia as a kind of second front. I find it difficult to fully believe because they would not spend so much resources in that case because as you mentioned, Georgia is a tiny country and it's not like Ukraine. So it cannot be used against Russia as Ukraine. Most likely this is a competition between Russia, sorry, between U.S. and China, between collective West and China, and they want to force China out of places that they are presented, and they are in Georgia right now. I believe a few days ago, a representative of State Department

criticized openly Georgia for cooperating with China, Chinese businesses in terms of this unaclear, deep, deep water ports. So probably it's all about that confrontation between West and the global South China. We've gone over time, but I'm going to just ask one very last question, which is this. What are feelings in Georgia, amongst Georgians, the Georgian population, towards Russia-like nowadays? I mean, you've had hostility recently. There was the wall in 2008. But, you know, you've had a huge history going back to the 18th century and beyond,

in which interactions between Georgians and Russians have been very, very close. There's a large Georgian diaspora in Russia, I mean, how did Georgians today feel about Russia? Is the antagonism? Are they hostile? Is the fear of Russia? What is the attitude amongst Georgians? I mean, Georgia, specifically.

I think public is the wider among political lines in this case. Majority that is in support of Georgian Rim ruling party are, I would not say friendly towards Russia. Some probably are friendly, but majority, majority has pragmatic approach. They are not hostile to Russia. They understand that it is better to have a normal relationship with Russia to be hostile. It's beneficial for Georgia, for Georgian citizens. But also there is a minority, very loud minority that is in support of this affiliates of Saakashvili

or so-called opposition that are extremely hostile towards Russia. you can say they are russophops and they are not even hiding this they are just open russophops so that's how society is divided so i would not say that majority in georgia is hostile no majority is neutral but there is small loud minority that is clearly extreme russofops that's for sure Levan Godadzia, thank you very much for answering my question so clearly and so well. I'm going to hand over to Alex. I think he's got some questions to ask as well. All right, Levan, 15, 20 minutes.

Questions? Is that cool? Yes, yes. All right. From Axel O, who is going to pay Ukraine's loans? Levon, Alexander, maybe both of you may want to jump in on this one. That's a good question. That's a good question, but I'm a frider. it might be taxpayers of their Western states.

I don't know. But at least for now, everything that was paid was coming from taxpayers from the West. Almost everything. Well, if the Biden administration

gets its way, it will be European taxpayers. Because all the loans are going to be guaranteed by the Europeans. That's what they want. Now, the latest plan, Mike Pompeo's plan, is that America

should supply things to Ukraine on a lend lease basis, which of course means, if you start doing that, American taxpayers will be playing Ukraine's loans as well. So the answer is exactly what Levant said. Western taxpayers will be paying Ukraine's loans. No one else will. It's only not the Ukrainians. Ralph Diner says Kamala is the anti-Israel anti-genocide candidate appears to be as the anti-Israel, anti-genocide candidate appears to be gaining strong favor now. How would a Kamala 2024 presidency affect the Ukraine war? Wow. I'm of course not anyway shape or form expert in US internal policies, but as far as I understand, Kamala Harris is a continuation of current administration.

just a US will have a president that is in better physical shape, I guess. There will be no differences. And I don't see Kamala Harris having opinions, strong opinion on basically anything at all. I may be mistaken. I don't know that. Alexandria, do you want to? Yeah, the Time magazine is saying that she doesn't actually get on with Zelensky, which nobody needs to get on with Zelensky.

But I basically agree with Levan. I mean, I don't think she's got very strong views about Ukraine. I don't think she's very interested in it. But I don't think she's going to break with the policies of the current administration. Maybe she won't follow them with the same degree of conviction that we've seen from Joe Biden. Joe Biden cares about Ukraine. I don't think Kamala does to anything like the same degree. But that doesn't mean that the policy is going to change or did the actions.

are going to change. The real question will be, if everything starts to fall apart on her watch, what does she do? And I think, given her inexperienced she is, and her, you know, politically fragile her position is going to be, I don't know how she's going to cope with all of that. I don't know, it'll be a massive test for her as soon as she becomes president. She'll have an sort of Afghanistan withdrawal-type debacle on steroids, so it seems to me. Ralph says political commentators, e.g. Scott Ritter, have theorized that the USA has planned to Andreside the Ukraine population. How would this affect Ukraine? It goes back to lowering the mobilization to 18. How is this going to affect Ukraine if they start mobilizing at 18?

I don't know, there is a fear in Ukraine. But fear is breaking because recently there was reports about some manifestations inside the Ukraine. People were protesting. In that particular case, because of the absence of electricity, but still people are managing to come out of fear and start asking questions. And if mobilization age will be lowered, maybe we will see. see some protests in Ukraine, but yet again, extremist forces in Ukraine have a strong group, so they will deal with any protests heavy-handedly. And therefore, I don't think we should expect some public outrage.

Ukraine was sacrificed from 2014, basically, and I think Western Rinklas will, theoretically, might continue this conflict until last Ukraine. They just don't care and unfortunately, public in Ukraine is in such a bad situation that they are just unable to protest or organized

and their act based on their own interests. John Carter of Mark says, Ask Levin what his view is on the street about the SMO and how Russian citizens view it. That is why I follow him to get his perspective.

You kind of answered that. I don't know if you have anything else to add, Levan, of you on the street. I don't know. I guess I already answered that. Yeah, I think you already answered that. Not a banned account wants to know, how soon will Putin be forced to surrender lands?

Boy. Well, this is not happening, so, you know. People, I mean, people that are under stronger influence of their propaganda of the Western ruling class, well, they're going to find themselves in a very strange situation when finally they will say reality, which is on the ground. They're going to be big time surprised because it seems to me, sometimes I see comments in the comment section also

when people are asking questions that I find difficult to understand. But there are people that truly believe that, I mean, Russia is about to break and lose this conflict. and that kind of stuff. And I find it difficult to have a serious conversation about that. You go to Russia and you understand Russia's not breaking. That's 1,000% sure, yeah. D.F. asks, the mob liquidates weak players, witnesses after a raid.

What happens to Zelensky when the lines collapse? Does the CIA liquidate Zelensky and his team? theoretically it is possible but I still believe that probably if he is clever enough he will manage to just leave Ukraine in time for Israel I don't know I think he will leave for Israel but who knows I certainly don't wish anything that was said by by commentator I don't wish more to take out Zelenskyy or something like that But I would like to see him in the court for sure for all the crimes that he committed against Ukrainian people, first of all, against Russian people. That will be just.

But I think he will run away from Ukraine for Israel at some point. From Rumble from let's see Ping Dogs Lie. What did Ukraine use as collateral for the aid given in the form of loans, land, public utilities? What all will the West take control of when Ukraine defaults on these loans? So what did they use as collateral? Western Ukraine. Yeah. And what are they going to take if it collapses?

Western Ukraine. That's going to be collateral. I guess BlackRock and other corporations that are heavily involved in this conflict, probably they will make sure that under whatever circumstances, even if Poland will claim some 70% of Western Ukraine, Hungary will claim Transcarpathia, Romania will claim some areas of Western Ukraine. BlackRock and all the other investors or donors of the regime, they will make sure probably they will use all the influence to receive some land,

whatever is used, can be used in Western Ukraine. Rest is out of conversation, but Western Ukraine probably will be collateral. I think Levin is basically right. I'm just going to just say one thing here, which is, of course, that formerly Ukraine hasn't given any real collateral at all for these loans. So what I think is going to actually happen is that the West is going to take all of those things that Levin is talking about. To a great extent, of course, they have already done so.

When Ukraine collapses and when the Russia is getting control, they rest will say the Russians now are in occupation of Ukraine so they are liable for these loans and I think that we will probably see at some point at some point in the future a further attempt to go after Russia now to try to get these loans repay I mean I don't know exactly how that's going to happen because there are all these legal problems but I think that that's where it's going to come they're going to say, you know, that Russia being the power in occupation is somehow liable for them. It makes no legal sense because that's what they're going to do. Yes, yes.

They're not going to give up on that $300 billion. Well, we'll take one more. Is that all right, Levant? Yes, yes. One more question from Moon Dragon. What are they hoping to achieve with the F-16 since Ukraine had more MiG-29s during the first year of the SMO? Well, once again, maybe maybe by, Deliver in F-16s, Western political elites, want to force Russia to deploy some extreme force.

Although when it comes to F-16s themselves, even though they are good, capable, fourth-generation, fighter bombers, they are, as a commentator mentioned, they are comparable to Mick 29s. And they're therefore, I mean, CX, 12, 2014 F-16s, they're not going to change a marathon on the battlefield. And from military standpoint, I don't think Western Runiclass is going to achieve pretty much anything with this. Russian fighter jets, Russian fighter pilots, and air defense systems are, I guess, ready to take action. Let's take one more, Levan Alexander, from locals. Full Fate, H says Iran using Russian rhetoric, special military operation, should speak volumes to what they are willing to do now and who are willing to back them in this?

Iran. Yeah, Iran. I guess they're using the term special military operation. I don't know. They have. They have. This is absolutely correct, as I understand it. They have actually used the term special military operation.

Because we don't know what they mean by that. And the other thing to say is that, I mean, one has to say this. I mean, the government of Iran, is a much more diffuse institution than the very discipline Russian government is. So, you know, it might be various institutions in Iran saying one thing, another saying another. Remember, the new president has only just been inaugurated. And so this is a time anyway of transition in Iran.

But, you know, they did use that. And I think that we are in a very, very dangerous situation in the Middle East. I want to repeat again, and i did program a couple of days ago about a week ago the time when we could go a week ago a week ago a week ago exactly just after netanyahu went to the united states based on what he said in congress based on all the realities the political realities there we predicted an explosion in the middle east you know israel going on the attack and that's exactly what we see this is a very very dangerous situation. Iran is being pushed into a corner. It's been humiliated by having a guest of the government

assassinated in its capital during the inauguration day of its president. It's going to feel obliged to respond. That's exactly, of course, what the Israelis want. And as I said, this crisis is very, very difficult to predict and impossible to control. Yes, I agree absolutely. Yes, completely with Alexander. It's very dangerous situation. Let's hope the world not going to end up yet another regional war in the Middle East. But it is

very dangerous, yes. Absolutely. All right, gentlemen, on that note, not a positive note to end on, but let's let's see what's going to happen. On that note, Levan Gutazia, thank you very much for joining us on this live

show. Once again, Levant's information is in the description. box down below and I will add all of his links as a pinned comment when the live stream wraps up. Levan, thank you very much. Thank you very much once again for this unique opportunity to speak to you to great Durand community. Extremely grateful. Thank you. We strongly recommend everyone follow Levan. He is doing amazing work. Great channel. Take care, Levan. Thank you. Thank you, Levin. All right, Alexander. Great show.

Great show, absolutely. Keep an eye on Georgia, everybody. October 26th, I think he said, are the elections? Absolutely. I think so. That's right, yes. All right, let's answer the remaining questions. Many questions?

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Atle is a new member of the Duran community. DEMEN has gifted Duran five memberships. Thank you for that. O.G. Wall says, good day. Deman joins the Duran community. Dement Jump.

Thank you for joining the Duran. Durant community. Paul Walker says off topic, but YouTube channel Nitting Orgo, another fake YT account of Alexander. Oh, dear. Alexander has a lot of fake accounts popping up. Just remember one thing, Alexander, Mercuris, and the Duran. This is where you'll find his official stuff. Everything else is a knockoff.

Everything is a knockoff. Everything is a knockoff. Everything is fake. I have nothing to do with any of it. If anybody from any one of these channels or any other channel that you see is offering you anything, you know, products, whatever, know that it's just absolutely fake. It has nothing to do with me at all. The only Alexander Mercurian channel that is a valid one is the one you all know and is connected to the Uran. That's it. Yeah. Valias, thank you for that super sticker.

Axel O, we answered Axelos questions about Ukraine loans. Paul, welcome to the drag community. Paul also asks, when Israel falls, who would take apex spot? We'll have to wait and see. Someone probably will,

but I mean, that's a long way into the future. So I'm not going to look that far. Ricardo Alfonso says, they will say Russia hasn't really won and has paid a huge price, they will then make a movie where America actually won and on to the next war. Absolutely. You're completely correct. That's exactly what they will do.

Well, that's what they did with Rambo, isn't it? I mean, Rambo basically won in Vietnam, as I remember. But Rambo 3 was the Mujah Hadin, wasn't it? Mujah Hadin, absolutely. That one did an age too well. Raul Pinto asks, what happens to the Ukrainian Reconstruction Bank effort by Black Rock and J. Morgan now that Ukraine has lost. You guys kind of answered that, but I don't know if you want to add anything more to it. As I said, I mean, the one that you can know, absolutely sure is the Black Rock

and J.P. Morgan are not going to lose any money on this. They're going to make lots of money on this. They're making money now on this because a lot of the commission payments and all that will be front-loaded. But when it's all over, when it is all over, as I said, they will be beating their daughter, Western governments. Western governments will be looking to get the money from the Russians. That I am absolutely sure about. EU Tech Health asks question for Levan. Will I still be able to buy my Nagazi dogs? I don't know what there's a... I don't know what that means. We'll pass that on to Levin. I'm not sure what that means. Fracture 01 says, I'm late. Hope it was a good show this far.

Thank you, Fractured. That was a great show for that. It's a great. great show and that was from from the odyssey chat Alexander let's go back to YT one sec Eric Lakin says thank you for real inside news Eric also says thank you all for your much needed analysis and information you are the new media thank you for that Eric Radavid thank you for that super sticker Paul thank you for that super chat Novostrom says Zarael 2024 Zaireal for president. You get my vote. You get my vote.

Who's going to be Zaryl's VP? That's the question. Paul Chou, thank you for joining the direct community. Ricardo Alfonso says it's unbelievably ironic how all the plans and schemes for Russia has slapped the collective West in the face. I've always warned never to curse others. Well, indeed, absolutely. They've never been able to take Russia completely.

seriously. Even during the Cold War, where Russia seemed powerful and all that, you see films in that time. You know, Russians are always blundering, incompetent, talking with funny accents. It's always ridiculed and mocked in some kind of a way. And of course, now it's catching up with them. Yes, it is. Let's see, we answered the Ukraine mobilization. Sineu Puk, thank you for that super sticker. Matthew says, the Americans will back down in the end. There are back channel communications, such as between Iran and the USA, all a load of theatrical nonsense at the expense of lives, empire provocation.

You see, if it was just the Americans and the Iranians, I agree, I think the Americans probably will. They wouldn't back down is a loaded word, but I think that they would not want to buy themselves go to war. But of course, there's a third party, which is the Netanyahu government in Israel, backed it must be said by a critical mass of Israeli public opinion. And I'll get the sense that they're spoiling for a fight. Yeah. Beverly says Putin and Trump can bring sanity.

Yeah. Paul Walker says Washington historically behaved like penchilla children because they always expect the adults on the other side to back down. It seems times have changed. Yes. that's exactly Meg, thank you for that super sticker. Commander Crossfire says empire

is come and go, but war, war never changes. True. Ralph says that there'll be millions of Ukrainian amputees and severely disabled soldiers following the war, the war, all drawing USA-funded veterans pensions. Will the USA honor this?

No. No. Raul Pinto says, how will this lost Ukrainian war play out of the Middle East? it's the second war the U.S. will be losing after Afghanistan in recent times. Will Israel be demoralized and Iran be motivated? Yes, possibly. But bear in mind that the mood in Israel will be that if America is withdrawing,

is receding. The moment has now come for Israel itself to assert itself while it still can. So in the short term, at least, it's likely to make Israel a lot more aggressive. This is my own view. Nick, thank you for that super sticker. Sanjewa says, Otheosna, Evloi, that Duran.

says, thank you, Sanjana. Thank you, Sanjava. Thank you, Sanjava. Excellent Greek. Excellent Greek, I was going to say, yes. Christos says, Hi, guys.

I hope that Israel people get B, B, B, state, and out of the government and make a deal. Well, I hope so, too. And, I mean, it's not impossible. He isn't hugely popular in Israel. And there is, of course,

a strong community of people in Israel who are horrified by the things that go on. Oh, you only have to go to Harats, the Israeli newspaper, to see this. I don't think they are the majority. That's the trouble. David says the Duran and its guests are world class and number one geopolitical channel. Thank you, David, for that. Sanjewa says, can we not give the time of date a trolls? Not a band account is clearly a troll. Thank you for that.

Jeva Ralph says Ukrainian sovereign debt rating has just been downgraded to C default imminent and Britain be relied upon for another hundred billion

of urgent aid. Of course, we've only got a budget crisis and the government has just spoken about a 20 billion pound hole in our finances

which they say the previous government concealed. All complete nonsense by the way in every respect, everybody knew about this 20 billion

pound hole. But anyway, if it's $20 billion, well, why not add another $100 billion on top? Why not make it $200? Why not make it $200? Absolutely, exactly. After all, they invited him to the cabinet. They invited Zelensky to the cabinet. So what's $100 billion between friends?

$100, $200, $300,000, $300 billion. Paul Walker says, will the SMO continue till the West is bankrupt? We are already probably in any objective way bankrupt, but it doesn't seem to stop us. J.F. says, gentlemen, a brilliant presentation with a deep understanding of current geopolitical events. Thank you. Thank you for that. J.F. Kaffan, welcome to the Duran community. Ricardo says perhaps joining Russia in a union state would help Georgia. Well, I think that the Georgians are nowhere near ready for that. I mean, they gained in in 1991. I think for the moment that's what they want to keep. What happens over time is another matter.

From Ralph, did Netanyahu go down to Georgia as he was looking for a soul to steal? He was, he was in a bind because he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal. No. The who's the singer of that song? The devil went down to Georgia. I don't remember. I forgot the band that sang. that song. Yeah, yeah. Because it was a different Georgia. It's a different Georgia. Yeah, it's a different Georgia. Yeah, we talk. Yeah, absolutely. But a great song. Deidant Jones says fantastic. Yeah, fantastic

program. Gentlemen, U.S. elections change. Nothing. Evil runs too deep in the U.S. The escalation elevator of grift and death continues to World War. Yeah, I agree. I'm afraid. Well, I hope we're not all the way to World War III, but I think it will continue, yes. Danielle says R.T. is reporting that American Gerskovich and Weeland have been freed into prisoner exchange. I didn't know Weeland as well. I've heard. No, I did know big news.

Yeah, if both of them as well, that's huge news. As Ariel says, the Duran, please make Abbott Harris Amad. I thought he was. He's Ahmad. I'll check the black cat. Thank you for that super sticker. Ricardo Afonzo says, I don't know how Kamala will handle Ukraine, Middle East, Russia, China, but I can say it will involve much cackerel.

Thank you for that. Not a band of count says, which country will hold Putin for war crimes trial. None. None. And's human Mishra says, will you be considering Marat Karulin for a program someday? I have a contact with him. And it is not impossible. It has been suggested. Brian says, good show. Azareel says, not banned the count. If Netanyahu can go to the U.S. and not be arrested, Putin can go wherever he wants to.

do think your questions are sarcastic, question mark. Smile emoji. Elza says, Alex, did you notice a difference between 2024 and 2003 Russia? Thanks and welcome home. Yes, more confident, much more confident. Also very normal. Zareel says, you guys would definitely be

in my admin if it happened. Oh, thank you. That's cool. That's good to know. Zaire, thank you for that. Super chat. Peter says, hello from sunny Norwich, UK.

Hello, Peter. And Mark P says, can't get questioned down to 50 words. Please see the chat. Okay, we'll see the chat to get that question. Peter. Mark, sorry, Mark. And from Amos, the biggest clown award goes to Elon Musk. Anyone recalled what he said after the coup in Bolivia in 2020.

We will coup whoever we want to deal with it. Lithium mines. Thank you. Alexander, let me look for that super chat from Mark V in the chat. Any final thoughts while I look for. for his question. It's been a brilliant program. We are in a moment of extraordinary importance

in this war in Ukraine. As I said, the West, I think they have understood that they're going to lose. But they don't know what to do in response to that. Do they try and manage it in PR terms? That might be difficult to do in Europe.

In the United States, they can probably get away with it because it's far away and remote. But in Europe, it's going to be a real problem. When I was in Germany, people were very, I realized people were very, very well aware of the war in Ukraine. And of course, Germany is now slipping into recession again.

And it's only a matter of time, I think, before people start to make the connection. Mark P., can you or someone, can they put Mark's question in the chat? Because I'm scrolling, I can't find it? A Sticky Mark says, Devil went down to Georgia, Raleigh Daniels band. I don't know that again. Yes, correct. Okay. If that question, hopefully that question comes into the chat so we can answer it.

In the meantime, Alexander, let's thank everybody that was watching this live stream. Absolutely. On Odyssey, Rockfin, Rumble, and V. Durand. Dot, Locals.com. from Rumble. Fartwif says, I appreciate the Duran, rich and informative.

Thank you for that Rumble, rant. And everyone on YouTube as well. Thank you for watching this show. Big thank you to our moderators, Valies, Zareel, Brett Harris, Angry Warhawk, Peter as well.

A super chat question from Paul. When will you invite Assange on? Ah, when he's ready? He's not yet ready. I mean, by which I mean, he's got a lot of repair to himself to do. I mean, he's just been through years and years of detention in, first, the embassy in Ecuador, then in Belmarsh, which is a terrible place to be. He's been through the horrible ordeal of a trial.

He's just been reunited to his family. Give it time. Okay. Yeah, I can't find that chat. The moderators can't find. Did either, just send, Mark, if you're still watching this feed, just send me the chats. Yeah. Either email, telegram or to a moderator, and we'll answer it.

We'll answer it in our next live stream. Yeah, we'll answer to our next live stream 100%. Charlie Daniels band, says Ricardo Afonzo in the super chat. Charlie Daniels band, devil went down to Georgia. All right. Alexander, we'll wrap up this show. Absolutely. Great show.

Thanks, everybody. Take care, everybody. Yeah.