The Duran Podcast - Why the UK/EU fights Russia

Episode Date: April 26, 2025

Why the UK/EU fights Russia

All right, Alexander, let's talk about the European Union and Ursula's trip to London to meet with Stamer. It's my opinion that these meetings are all about rolling back Brexit. And who better to help the EU and the UK roll back Brexit join forces unite than Putin, then Russia, right? Russia's like the Swiss Army knife for globalists. It can solve all kinds of globalist problems, right? So Ursula and Stammer, they're talking about how the UK and the EU they need to reintegrate to get closer together in order to take on the threat of Putin. Ursula claimed that Russia cut off the gas to Europe. They love saying that, but that's her claim.

Stomber is talking about UK-EU unity. The subject of unity, Alexander, the European Union is trying to hold it together, it seems. What are your thoughts? Well, exactly. Can I just say about Osula coming to London and meeting with Stama, you're absolutely right in the sense that obviously their main topic is going to be Ukraine and all of that. But the reality, the underlying substance of it, is one further big step, one big step at a time towards bringing Britain back into the EU. I mean, this is the agenda.

And by the way, if you follow the British media, you can see this. You can see that two of the most strident pro-Ukraine, pro-Zelensky, anti-E, anti-Ukraine, anti-Sulis. Trump media outlets in Britain are the Financial Times and the Guardian. And they're constantly saying that what Britain now needs to do is to make a choice between the United States and the EU. And of course, it goes without saying that what they're saying, what Britain should do, what Stama should do, which is, of course, exactly what he wants to do, which is to turn back towards the EU.

And the objective, to be clear, is to get Britain back into the EU, not parts of the EU, to take it completely back in, to reverse Brexit entirely and to do so as quickly as possible. Therefore, elections happen in Britain, in which reform is likely to do well, particularly in the working class labor constituencies, where reform is apparently making big progress, and where people voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. So this is part of the agenda. You use Ukraine, you use the topic of Ukraine to facilitate the reversal of Brexit. No doubt about it.

But having said that, there is a bigger story here as well, because one of the most extraordinary things over the of the last couple of days, the last week or so, is that the Americans presented their plan for a final settlement of the conflict in Ukraine, or at least a settlement of the conflict in Ukraine. I'm not sure how final it would really be, but anyway, a settlement of the conflict in Ukraine, which is basically the Kellogg Plan. Now, the Kellogg Plan, I don't think it has any prospect of success, but at least it does take into account, some of the realities, that the Russians occupy huge territories of eastern Ukraine, that they are in control of Crimea, that none of that is going to be reversed, that the Russians adamantly oppose

Ukraine joining NATO, that so long as Ukraine exercises or purports to exercise or intends to exercise, the rights to join NATO, the conflict in Ukraine is going to continue. The Europeans reject that wholly. rejected the plan in its entirety. They backed Zelensky to the Hill when he rejected the plan entirely. I was reading in the British media, UN officials, named US-EU officials, including a political ally in Germany of Friedrich Metz, and this person is a member of the CDU and named MP within the CDU, say that for the Europeans, they have two red lines. One is recognition of Crimea or indeed of any Russian territory or any Russian controlled territory. There must be no recognition of them because that would supposedly destroy the rules-based order that has preserved peace in Europe

and all that nonsense. That's one thing they said. The other is that there can be no question of in any way compromising on Ukraine's right to join NATO. That is an absolute inviolable, inviolate thing. Now, notice that they are not coming up with any proposal, alternative peace proposal of their own. The war in Ukraine is being lost. They've heard that the Americans are preparing to walk away, The amount of military equipment being sent to Ukraine from the United States is diminishing.

They're in no position to replace it, and they know that perfectly well. So they're not coming up with any peace proposal. They are rejecting the American priest's proposal, which at least is based on some of the realities. They want to continue this conflict with Russia in Ukraine. and it's clear, given that Ukraine is losing the war, that they are prepared to sacrifice Ukraine to that end. Now, the question is why. Now, I've come to the conclusion that for the Europeans, for Osceola and her people, for Mertzi, it is no longer a question of defeating Russia. It is no longer a question of preserving Ukraine.

It is not even about keeping the United States involved in Europe. It is about preserving the European Union. It's all about now the existence of the EU itself. Because from a European point of view, what they've come to believe, and I think, by the way, that they are right about this, is that if there is a peace agreement, over Ukraine, it will shatter EU unity, probably beyond repair, in the sense of the Baltic states,

Poland will reject such an agreement, whatever it's formed, whereas other countries, not just Hungary and Slovakia, but big countries like Italy, will accept it and they will start voting if the EU Center tries to preserve the sanctions against Russia. They will start voting, these big countries will start voting in the EU Council to have vetoing against further extensions of the sanctions, causing the entire sanctions regime to break down. Now, that is for the EU Centre. a critical danger. It is almost an existential risk because exactly, as you said, at the start of the program, they have now built the entire project of EU integration and, by the way, bringing Britain back into the EU. They built it around hostility to Russia, hostility.

Litty to Putin, this idea that Europe is going to be constructed on the back of opposing, you know, the Russian haunts that are supposedly on the brink of invading Europe and taking it all over. So this is what it has all devolved into now. Exactly. Exactly. You want money for climate change. You got to do it because of Putin. You want money for the military? We got to do it because of Putin. We got to do it because of Putin. We need a fund for this or that, for infrastructure. Well, we got to do it because of Putin. We want to reverse Brexit.

We got to do it because of Putin. Everything now is built around Project Ukraine, even more specifically around Russia. So Russia is going to serve all of the EU's purposes, all of its slush funds, whatever it needs to do. Censorship, you've got to censor because of Putin. Cancel elections? We've got to cancel elections because of Putin. So Russia is key. Russia is the platform, the policy of the European Union.

It's the reason that Europe exists now is Russia. That's it. So if the U.S. is not fighting Russia, then why should the European Union even exist? And going back to Italy, on a side note, did you read the story about the ICC documents that never made it to the judge on purpose, obviously, the Italians, very high up officials. They didn't submit the ICC warrant papers or something like that to the proper court. And so there is no ICC warrant against Putin. I'm not saying that Putin is going to travel to Italy, but obviously that shows you the fact that a country like Italy, the third biggest power in the European Union is obviously there are people very high.

up who are waiting for the opportunity to break from Ursula's iron fist from her rule, from her unity. Obviously, Hungary is a country that is ready to, that has broken away and just need support. You have Slovakia, Fidzo going to victory day on May 9th. The European Union is furious. Orban is saying that he's hinting that maybe he's not going to vote for the renewing sanctions and the frozen assets. The EU is terrified about those frozen assets being released back to Russia because who knows what funny business was going on there. Absolutely. Just before you continue that. I'm done. I'm done. So all of those things, all of those things are- All of those things. Because on the question of the frozen assets,

you remember some months ago, maybe a year ago, you said that they'd probably already dipped into the capital because the interest was not enough to cover all that they've been doing. in, I'm sure you're absolutely right about that. There isn't, those, those were 240 billion euros of assets in Euroclair. When we actually do the accounts, we'll find out that there's an awful lot less. And, of course, a lot of the interest has already been used, all kinds of things. The Estonians have already talked about this. They've already said that if the assets are unfrozen, then European PAC taxpayers are going to take a hammering.

because much of that money has already gone and they'll get to be legally obliged to return it and it isn't there anymore. But that's just the frozen assets. I mean, there's all sorts of other things that one could say here. First of all about Italy, let's talk about Italy.

I mean, you're absolutely right about the whole ICC warrant business about the papers never reaching the judge and all that. It's clearly done on purpose. But look at what Italy has been. doing quietly without much, you know, attracting a lot of attention over the last couple of weeks. First of all, Maloney has been to, I think it was Maralago. She's met with Trump in the United States.

She's apparently a very friendly meeting with Trump. She is not supporting this. She's never supported. In fact, she's always opposed the plan to send European troops to Ukraine as part of a peacekeeping force, reassurance force, whatever it is. Apparently, Italy has stopped sending weapons to Ukraine. I mean, this has apparently been going on for quite a long time. And Italy has been quietly, apparently supporting American moves towards negotiating an end of the conflict. Italy is not even increasing military spending. They're not spending 2% of GDP on military, and they apparently have no plans to do so. Italy has quietly bailed out of the whole project Ukraine project.

I mean, they've bailed out of it. They've done it in a very clever way. They've done it in a way that doesn't attract attention. Maloney still goes to all the meetings. She doesn't say very much. When she does say things, she says it very much to the point. but in all practical terms, they're out. Now, all the other countries that you mentioned, Hungary, obviously, Orban is saying that he's going to veto any rollback of sanctions.

If there were a deal, he probably would do it because he would have the Americans and the Russians behind him, not just the Americans and the Russians, but a lot of other people too. Fizzo is in open mutiny. He is going to Moscow for the 9th of May. nothing will persuade him not to go. And of course, in other countries, you see simmering rebellions as well. In Germany, as we saw, the Ayefda continues to grow in strength. In France and Britain, well, we talked about reform, but there's also opposition to Macron, France. And of course, in Romania, one of the courts have now overturned the decision. decisions, the administrative decisions to bar your Gorgiasco from participating in the elections. There's now a huge new political, there's now attempts to get higher courts to overturn it.

We've had French officials. Remember, we talked about the presence of the French troops in Romania, positioned to move rapidly towards the desert. and that might be one of the major reasons why the EU and generally were so keen to prevent Gorgasgui being elected. Anyway, the French are apparently meeting with all kinds of top officials in Romania. And apparently, and I haven't seen this, I haven't seen reliable confirmation of this, but I've seen reports about it. The Electoral Commission in Romania are saying that if the court order stands allowing Gorgasco to participate in the elections, they will defy it. They will simply ignore the court order. So you could see that there is a battle underway right across Europe.

And how do you preserve EU unity? How do you move forward with every single part of the project? How do you start getting people to agree to states to agree, Germans to agree to euro bonds, war bonds as they will initially be, but ultimately Euro bonds as well? How do you get all of that done? You do that by prolonging the conflict, by telling people in Europe that there's this existential conflict with Russia, that the Russians are on, that the Russians are coming, that the Russians are at the gates, that we have to go. rearm and re-equip and centralize everything. The Americans are leaving us. We've got to build up the European army to hold the Russians back. We've got to do all of this industrialization, which is, you know, to underpin rearmament

and it's all got to be organized in Brussels. They want to continue to be able to say that because that's the only way now that they can Scotch, all of these dissident forces that are starting to develop across Europe, bring the Italians back into line, get the British back into the EU, crush Orban, Fizzo, and all of the others, ban the IFD as a pro-Russian party. That's the only way they can do it by keeping the war going. reverse Brexit as well. Reverse Brexit. So basically they need time.

What the EU is fighting for is time. That's right. And I wonder what their timeline is. Is their timeline another year, a year and a half in the sense that they're saying, you know what, let's wait out Trump. We're not going to be able to beat the United States. We're a vassal to the United States. We are a vassal to the United States.

We know it. So let's wait out Trump till the midterms And then maybe we'll get the Democrats in there And then they can start investigations on Trump And then we're in the clear Or is it let's wait out Trump Until the next elections

And maybe not only will we not have We'll also have a Democrats In one of the chambers in Congress But maybe we'll also get A Gavin Newsome president or someone As president who's just going to go to, who's going to default to Obama, Biden, foreign policies. So is the plan, let's wait out Trump until the midterms, or is it let's wait out Trump until the next election cycle? So in order

to wait out Trump so they can get back to the good old days with Biden, with a Biden-O-Bama type of administration in the U.S., it's important that they keep the conference. in Ukraine going, even if they have to sacrifice all of Ukraine, maybe Ukraine can last another year or two. If we could just give them enough support, they can last a year or two, and then we've got changes in the U.S. Is that the timeline? Absolutely. Can I just say something? I think that the key is the bit terms, because the other thing about Ukraine is that Ukraine is the issue of Ukraine, the topic of Ukraine, not only helps the EU to preserve its own unity, but it's also the issue, the one issue that the Democrats

have and which is bringing them all together, because at the moment the Democrats look to be in a very, very bad shape indeed. I mean, they're continuing apparently to sink in spite of all of Trump's problems. But clearly you want the Democrats to come back and come back strong in the midterms to at least recapture maybe the House, even if they can't manage the Senate, but at least something to put Trump on the defensive, to then bog Trump down in all kinds of investigations and all of those sort of things. So I suspect the calculation is that you only have to wait until the midterms. I think the view, the conventional wisdom in Europe is that Trump's popularity is going to implode. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but I think that's what all of these people

are saying to each other. Trump's popularity is going to implode because there's going to be a recession in the United States. The tariff policy isn't going so well. of that. Trump's popularity is going to implode. The Democrats will sweep back in with the midterms. Then we're through the danger point. If we can keep Ukraine going until then, fine. We're through. We've come through what happens to Ukraine after. Really doesn't matter anymore. And of course, you use Ukraine to hold things together in Europe and you You use the topic of Ukraine to hold the Democrats together as well, because at the moment, as I said, they don't look to be in good shape at all. And they're very unpopular, even with most of their own

voters. Yeah. And it gives the EU the time that it needs if they get a result that's favorable to them in the midterms in the U.S. It gives them the time that they need to get Italy back in line, to regime change Urban, to regime change fees. to ramp up the censorship, to put in place CBDCs and digital currency and all that for the euro. It gives them time to do all of these things to create big massive slush funds for defense spending, big massive slush funds for climate and all of that stuff. Yeah. So they need to keep Ukraine fighting. Sacrifice Ukraine even. Sacrifice Ukraine in order to keep the whole Russia is our enemy narrative going in order to give them the time they need to build up the center of Brussels.

Exactly. To build up the strength in the center, yeah. Because to state it again, if your priority was not just to preserve Ukraine, but to preserve the existing setup in Ukraine, which is what they say, they would be backing the Kellogg plan. David, the Kellogg plan is the best possible plan Ukraine can hope to get. When Trump says that if this goes on long enough, there won't be any Ukraine left, you know, what he said, you know, in his latest truth social post, that in three years you won't have your country. He's absolutely right.

But no one, notice, no one in Europe, addresses that issue. No one in Europe actually addresses the realities on the ground. All right. We will end the video there. The durand. Dot Locals.com. We are on Rumble Odyssey, pitch, you telegram, Rockford. Next, go to the Duran Shop, pick up some merch like what we are wearing in this video update. The link is in the description box down below. Take care.