The Duran Podcast - Zaluzhny Blasts Zelensky, Kursk Disaster

Episode Date: September 22, 2024

Zaluzhny Blasts Zelensky, Kursk Disaster ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, Alexander. Let's talk about Zelensky and Solutioni. We're back at this again, uh, Zoletsky and Solutioni. So Zillusioni accompanied Lami, the foreign secretary and Blinken on their recent trip to Kiev. Solutioni was there. And Politico, the other day, they run an article, which claims that the debacle and curse, which is, as we have been saying, pretty much from day one. We've kind of been vindicated. We can do a victory lap cat. I mean, we've been, we've been vindicated. Everyone is acknowledging that Kursk is a debacle. The report from Politico is that Zillusioni agreed with us. And he said, don't, don't do Kersk. Kersk is going to be a debacle. Interesting timing for Politico to run this story. What do you think is going on here?
Starting point is 00:01:00 this is a fascinating story and I want to say something. I mean, the Politico story, there's an awful lot of dots which are just extremely difficult to join up because what the Politico story says is that Zelensky at some point, we don't know exactly, he doesn't tell us when, came up with this idea for this operation, and it makes it pretty clear that it was Zelensky's idea, specifically Zelensky's idea. Remember, Zelensky's not a military, person, but he hatched this idea for the operation, because, and apparently a lot of Ukrainian generals, a lot of Ukrainian generals, told him don't do this. And the most important of those Ukrainian generals who told him don't do this was Zollosuny. Now, the problem with that story
Starting point is 00:01:50 is that, of course, Zollosheny himself was sacked from his position as commander of the Ukrainian military in February. So if you take this story at face value, then that must mean that Zelensky was planning this operation in Kusk, at least before February. Because otherwise, how could Zoluzni have pushed back against it from London when he was no longer a military commander in chief? I mean, to me, to me, this is the big unanswered question here, which makes absolutely no sense. Now, I find it very difficult to believe that Zelensky was really planning this operation in Kusk all the way back in February. So I think what is more likely is that, yes, probably Zalusli, the moment he heard about this Cusk operation was telling everybody this is going to fail. He's a melody. He's a
Starting point is 00:02:58 military man. He could see all the things which we saw. By the way, I would correct you about one thing. We didn't, you know, sort of say that Cusk was going to be a debacle. We said that Cusk was going to be a debacle. We said it on the very first day. We said it would end terribly. And we could see every day that that is exactly what it is doing. So I'm sure Zillusioni was able to see that. And he said that. he told his friends who are still there in the military about that. And there's another senior Ukrainian officer, the commander of an airborne brigade, who was ordered to send his troops into Korsk,
Starting point is 00:03:41 and this was in July. And he said this is an incredibly bad idea. My brigade is going to get smashed. We're not going to achieve anything and promptly got sacked. So that, by the way, suggests that the decision to launch this was actually made in July when Solutioni was in London, you know, just completely out of the picture. But I'm sure that Solutioni, the moment it started, it was going around, don't know everybody, this is a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I don't believe that he was arguing. This is my own view. I don't believe he was arguing with Zelensky about this way back in February. I think that is very difficult to believe. But what he's now seeing is that this operation in Kursk has been a design. a debacle, exactly as he said. We've had more news this morning that the Russians have captured more villages in Kuzk,
Starting point is 00:04:36 that they are close to encircling the entire Ukrainian grouping in Kusk. There are reports of panic amongst some Ukrainian military units. The Russian military group of forces north, the Russian military force that's Russian military force that is conducting the operation. in Kusk actually reported that fact on its website. Of course, that's the Russians. We don't know how accurate that is,
Starting point is 00:05:04 but we've got evidence to suggest that it's probably true. So Kusk is turning into a debacle, and this is a solutionist chance. So he's coming in, he's getting his friends to speak to Politico. He's done this many, many times. He's spread for years now, stories in which he positions himself as the voice of reason and sanity in Ukraine against this eccentric, volatile, unstable character who is Zelensky, this dangerous amateur who makes all
Starting point is 00:05:39 these reckless ideas. Zaluzzi is always there trying to restrain him, trying to calm him down, trying to prevent him doing the reckless, irresponsible things that Zelensky wants to do. And he tried to do it over course, but of course. His advice again was not heeded, and we see once again that his warnings were true. And I think this is what the image that's been presented. And it's being done because I think that it's illusioning. And some other people in Kiev are saying to themselves, when this debacle plays out, when the Ukrainians are either encircled in course
Starting point is 00:06:23 or driven out, of course, or whatever. This is their moment to make their move. Zelensky's reputation will be in tatters. Everything across the front lines is falling apart. There was a fascinating article in Ukrainska Pravda, Ukrainian newspaper, discussing the situation in the Pakrovsky area. And they're talking about a complete chaos in terms of the military leadership, the high command, contradictory orders,
Starting point is 00:06:56 orders that bear no connection with reality, fortifications being built in the wrong places when they're completely useless, all that kind of thing. So who must we turn to in this hour of crisis, this hour of Ukraine's need? Well, Zoluzni, here's the person, always the voice of reason,
Starting point is 00:07:19 always the voice of sanity, and the person who also has the support of the West. And that's why he comes to Kiev alongside Blinken and Lammy. He's there. We see the pictures of him at the railway station. And he's the man who will save the situation for Ukraine in its great hour of need. All we have to do is to bring him back, put Zelensky in his place, and all will be well. I think this is the narrative that is now being prepared.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, after the long-range missile strikes into pre-2014 Russia, after this narrative, whatever may happen, whether there's a green light for the long-range missile strikes into Russia or not. After this narrative, is it done with? The next narrative appears to be Zillusioni. The next wonder weapon, there we go. The next wonder weapon is going to be Zillusin. He's going to be the next wonder weapon.
Starting point is 00:08:20 that the UK, it looks like the UK is lining up behind him, or at least there are some forces in the UK that are lining up behind him. Makes perfect sense since he's in the UK right now. I mean, he's the ambassador in the UK. So obviously he's going to start getting support from the UK deep state that's involved in this conflict. And, you know, maybe Blinken is going to start getting behind Zoluzni. There are calls in Ukraine, in Kiev.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This has happened before in the past, but these calls, we're starting to hear these calls again, which are saying Zelensky needs to call elections or step aside. I mean, we are hearing MPs. Once again, they've done this in the past. They're starting up again, and they're saying elections or leave because Zelensky, you have made an absolute, complete mess of things. So, you know, Zoluzzi may be the wonder weapon, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah. Absolutely. There was a period that lasted roughly from the moment when the Ukrainian counter-offensive of last summer failed, and went through the period in Afderka, the fighting in Avdavka, when it looked as if Zelensky's position was becoming increasingly unstable. And then things sort of stabilized. Zelensky sacked Zoluzni. Zeluzzi failed to respond.
Starting point is 00:09:50 There was no move within the various brigades, the nationalist brigades, and Zelensky was able to go ahead and extend his term without elections, and he looked for a time as if his position was secure. I'm guessing, by the way, that he got a lot of support from the US at that time. And I get the sense that that period is now ending, that with the imminent collapse in Kuzk and quite plausibly the fall in Bakrosk in the next few weeks, then we're going to see again
Starting point is 00:10:23 the demands mounting for a change in Kiev. And of course the, just as quickly say, the Russian intelligence agency could probably just stir the pot here. But they've been spreading stories for some time that the Americans are looking for a replacement to Zelensky
Starting point is 00:10:40 and that Zollusini is their preferred choice. I doubt that they have actual information about that, but that's what they're saying. I would be surprised if that's what the UK is is looking at once again. He's in the UK. So obviously there are some people supporting Solutioni, but the support that Zelensky got at the time, wasn't that when Newland went to Kiev and she sorted everything out? That's right. That's exactly right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:04 he got the support of the Americans. Newland, as you correctly say, went to Ukraine. She spent some time in Kiev. She gave an incredibly provocative press conference, I remember, or at least addressed to the media outside in the snow, right? Outside in the snow, yeah, yeah. In which, by the way, she basically hinted at the deep strikes, missile strikes
Starting point is 00:11:32 against Russia. She was already floating that idea then. And it was clear afterwards that Zelensky had got the Americans backing and that helped stabilize the situation in Kiev for a few months. Yeah, he got
Starting point is 00:11:49 the backing, but it looks like he got the backing with the condition that we're not going to completely remove Zillusionee. We're going to send him to London and he's going to be hanging out there and let's see what happens. That was a temporary thing. Exactly. It was a temporary thing. The Americans were not ready at that time for a change in Kiev and Zilluzni was parked in London. So, but now he's been brought back. Yeah, yeah. And Zillusini, whenever you talk about Zilluzni, you also
Starting point is 00:12:24 talk about Poroshenko and Klichko, because they're the ones that are aligned with Zuluzni. That's right. That's exactly correct. I mean, Zeluzni and Poroshenko are clearly very closely aligned with each other. I'd say, if anything, I put it more simply
Starting point is 00:12:42 than that, I'd say that Zuluzni was originally Poroshenko's man. I mean, Poroshenko was president of Ukraine, as we know, before Zelensky was. He built up the Ukrainian military. He basically, I think, promoted people like Solutiony and made sure that they reached the high positions that Zolloszolosini did indeed reach. And I think there's clearly a connection between them. And Klitschko, who's the mayor of Kiev, he's also part of this group. So I think this is the group that's now maneuvering and is preparing to strike.
Starting point is 00:13:17 because they can see that, you know, the writing is on the wall in Kiev, in Kuzk, rather, the writing is on the wall in Pakrovsk, in Dombas, and they're looking for someone to take over. By the way, I mean, this is all very interesting, but for the moment, it still looks like a game of musical chairs, you know, getting people in and out, Zelensky in, Zalusin, Zalusin, Zelenskya, all of that. It doesn't answer the question of what Ukraine is going to do going forward.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Because one thing I have to say is that none of these people, Zaluzzi, Poroshenko, Klichko, are coming up with any real plan for turning Ukraine's situation round. This was true, by the way, when as illusioning was Ukraine's military commander. I mean, he always presented himself as the voice of reason and sanity and all of that. But he never came up with a plan, an actual plan that might have delivered any kind of long-term victory or solution for Ukraine's underlying problems. I say this. I was following very closely. what Zolucci was doing, but it was always passive and always negative, trying to push back against Zelensky's crazy plans, which eventually, by the way, Zalucci always bent along with,
Starting point is 00:14:59 to just say, I mean, he always did in the end. But never coming up with any real proposals about how to conduct the war of his own. And I still don't see anything like that. from this group. No, it's just a change of a face, right? You kick the can down the road and you hope for something to get better. But yeah, I agree with you. Zillusioni was no military genius or mastermind, and he didn't have any ideas that were different from Zolensky.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Zoluzni would basically say the same thing that Zelensky would say, but he would just package it differently, which was, we need more weapons and we need more money. That was basically all he would come up with. Give us more weapons. give us more money. If we had all of these weapons, we could win, which is no different than what Zelensky says. But yeah, so Zelensky goes to, to wrap up the video, Zelensky goes to New York. He is going to speak at the U.N. Security Council, at least those are the reports that we're getting,
Starting point is 00:16:03 is that he's going to speak at the UN and he's going to address the Security Council. That's what I understand is going to happen. And he is going to meet to not only with the Biden White House, but he is scheduled to meet with Harris and possibly even Trump. So what do you think is going on there? And how important is Kersk holding on to Kersk for Zelensky as he goes to the United States? Because I imagine that one of Zelensky's biggest concerns is that something bad happens in Kersk while he's in the United States.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And that may jeopardize his pushed. to get the green light for long-range missile strikes into pre-2014 Russia, because the media, they've been running the same Kursk narrative in a loop, which is Kersk was brilliant. Kerk was brilliant. It was an incredible tactical victory for Ukraine. But they never get into the specifics of what's happening in Kirst, because the collective West mainstream media,
Starting point is 00:17:07 they understand that Kersk is a complete debacle and they don't want to get into the details. They're just trying to hold up. out to this narrative of the genius behind Kursk for as long as they can, but that that narrative is crumbling. So what's what's this trip to the States all about? Right. Well, first of all about Kusk. I mean, if Kusk collapses, whilst Zelensky is in New York or before Zelensky is in New York, it is a complete disaster for him. I mean, we already see how Zalusin and all the others are are maneuvering to pin the blame on him. And they will they will succeed. in that because Zelensky has
Starting point is 00:17:45 taken credit for it. I mean, he took credit for the great success in Kusk. If Kusk ends in a debacle, then what it's going to do inevitably is it's going to feed the already mounting doubts that exist
Starting point is 00:18:00 in Western capitals about his ability to lead Ukraine through this crisis. They're going to say, look, Zelensky's clearly doesn't know what he's doing. He started this operation at Kusk. He told us it was going to succeed. Kids failed and failed disastrously. It's time that we started thinking seriously about someone else. So he has to hold on in Cusk for the next couple of weeks whilst he's in New York.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And there are reports that he's telling Ciske, the current military chief, to make sure that whatever happens in the war over the next couple of weeks, Two things don't happen. One is a complete collapse in Kusk, and the second is a collapse in Prakosk, and to send all available troops and reinforcements to these places and to forget about everything else. So that is his overriding political priority now.
Starting point is 00:19:04 As to what he's going to do in New York, it's going to be more of the same. He's coming with his so-called victory plan, I understand that the victory plan is not actually a military plan exactly. It's all about, you know, trying to do all kinds of complicated and clever diplomatic maneuvers. He wants to have another conference, peace conference in November. He hasn't yet found a venue. He's been trying to get the Indians to agree.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Then the Saudis. Then the Swiss, again. The Swiss, by the way, have said no, this time. They had a bad experience with the last one. They don't want to repeat that all over again. But anyway, he's coming up with his peace plan. He wants more weapons, as you say. He wants deep missile strikes.
Starting point is 00:19:50 He's wanting, according to the Russian media, a commitment and agreement from the West that Ukraine should join NATO before the end of this year. Proposterous idea. But I mean, he's coming up with all of this and all of these demands. And he's going to try and package that. He's a great plan for victory. He's going to try to tell the Americans and the others, look, Ukraine is in the rights.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Our territorial integrity is threatened. We are the victims of aggression. You must continue to support us. You've said in the past, you know, you'll be with us as long as it takes. You must fulfill your promise. And you don't have any reasons to change. change that because here's my plan, here's my great victory plan. All you need to do is to authorise
Starting point is 00:20:48 me to give me the green light, to conduct an unrestricted missile war against Russia, to do whatever I want, anywhere on the battlefronts. You've got to give you every single weapon that exists in all your arsenals and more still. You've got to escalate to the point of, well, I don't even want to say which point. You've got to get everybody around the world to line up and agree with me. And then, and then, victory will be ours. Back me 150%, 200%, and I can still deliver you victory. And I think there are still some people who fall for this line, Kirstana in Britain, being one of them. But I think with other people, it's starting to wear very thin. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Some people fall for the line like Kirstammer and a lot of analysts because they don't really have much choice, do they? They've invested so much into Project Ukraine and the fiction that Ukraine ever had a chance to win this conflict. They never did have a chance. And what else can they do? I mean, what else can Kirstommer do? Right? I mean, this is all he's got left. Well, I mean, he's got to, yeah, he's got to go for this.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah. he's got to go for this because he ignored advice from the foreign office to back off and to go as they put it back to the centre of the pack in terms of support for Ukraine. He ignored that. He tried to lobby on Ukraine's behalf with the Americans and apparently they weren't happy. I mean, they might make a decision which corresponds with the one he wants, but if so they will do that because of internal discussions and the Americans did not welcome the British intruding themselves
Starting point is 00:22:45 into their internal discussions. The French, the Germans, the Italians are cooling rapidly now on the whole Ukraine project. And in Starless case, his ratings, his poll ratings are collapsing in Britain faster than I. have ever seen a newly elected prime ministers do he's involved in a scandal i mean you know he's just a few weeks but he's involved in a scandal because he's been taking you know freebies donations of expensive clothes and suits and tickets to taylor swift part events and football matches and all that
Starting point is 00:23:30 from all sorts of rich donors so you're absolutely right i mean he's he's boxed in he's got to go on plugging Zelensky because he embraced Zelensky. Literally in the first week that he became prime minister, even inviting Zelensky to a British cabinet meeting. I mean, you know, he didn't listen to you. He didn't learn. I'll understand that the risal to thing is the Elensky curse. He embraced it.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I mean, it was bizarre. And of course, it's already playing, it's already having its deadly effect on him. Yeah. All right. We will end it to there. Durand.L.Lovils.com. We are on Rumble Odyssey, but shoot, Telegram, Rockfin, and Twitter X,
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