The Dylan Gemelli Podcast - Episode #164: The Pet Industry WANTS Your Dog Sick!! Featuring Angela Ardolino

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Some of the things you’ve been told are protecting your pet may actually be doing more harm than good. Certified cannabis and fungi clinician Angela Ardolino challenges the conventional approach to pet health and explains why she believes everything from highly processed food and pesticides to certain medications and poorly formulated supplements may be contributing to chronic health problems in our animals. Angela Ardolino brings more than 20 years of experience in holistic pet wellness and is a graduate of the inaugural Medical Cannabis for Therapeutic Use program at the University of Vermont School of Medicine. She is the founder and formulator behind CBD Dog Health and MycoDog, where she develops full-spectrum hemp, mushroom and adaptogenic formulas for dogs, cats and horses. She is also the host of Your Natural Dog, where she educates pet parents about holistic care, nutrition, natural medicine and animal wellness. In this episode, she explains: ■ How kibble, pesticides, medications and toxins may affect your pet’s health ■ How the endocannabinoid system affects inflammation, pain and overall health ■ Medical cannabis vs. recreational cannabis for pets ■ How CBD, medicinal mushrooms and adaptogens are used for pet wellness ■ Rethinking conventional cancer treatment for pets ■ What she learned treating her Doberman after an osteosarcoma diagnosis ■ Why CBD and mushroom quality, sourcing and dosage matter ■ The problem with low-quality pet supplements ■ Concerns about Librela, Apoquel and other common veterinary drugs ■ Why pet owners should research medications before giving them to their pets ■ Early signs of dementia and cognitive decline in senior dogs ■ Lion’s Mane, Bacopa, Reishi and Cordyceps for cognitive health ■ How to read pet food and supplement labels   Chapters: (00:00) Intro (00:51) Timeline (04:55) Why Pets Need Better Protection (11:22) How Angela Discovered Medical Cannabis (13:40) How the Endocannabinoid System Works (15:17) Why Whole-Plant Cannabis Works Differently (17:37) Mushrooms, Cannabis & Cancer (19:45) The Problem With Low-Quality Supplements (25:05) Treating Her Dog’s Osteosarcoma With THC (27:46) Rethinking Conventional Cancer Treatment for Pets (30:05) What’s Really Inside Mushroom Tinctures (32:04) How Everyday Chemicals Affect Your Pet (33:24) How Veterinary Schools & Big Companies Influence Pet Care (35:25) How She Extended Her Doberman’s Life After Cancer (38:40) Medical Cannabis vs. Recreational Cannabis (42:42) Treating the Root Cause vs. Treating Symptoms (47:01) Apoquel, Pharmaceutical Drugs & When They’re Necessary (49:36) What Pet Owners Should Know About Librela (54:08) Hidden Fillers in Pet Supplements (56:31) Can Dogs Get Dementia? (58:12) Early Signs of Cognitive Decline in Dogs (59:36) Lion’s Mane, Bacopa & Adaptogens for Senior Dogs (1:02:10) Angela’s Study on Canine Dementia (1:09:25) How To Read Pet Food & Supplement Labels (1:10:27) Final Thoughts   Connect with Angela: Website: https://angelaardolino.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yournaturaldogpodcast/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AngelaArdolino/  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@angelaardolino   TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@angelaardolino1 X: https://x.com/angelaardolino   —-------------------------------------------------------------------------- TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY Timeline Get your FREE Mitopure Gummies Sample Here: timeline.com/gemelli —-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get KYZATREX: FDA-approved oral testosterone capsule: http://www.getkyzatrex.com/dylangemelli —-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get the Apollo Neuro for $99 OFF!! Use Code GEMELLI! https://apolloneuro.com/gemelli —-------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRULY Increase Your NAD LEVELS with WONDERFEEL NMN: https://getwonderfeel.com/?utm_source=DylanGemelli&utm_medium=podcast —--------------------------------------------------------------------------   Where to find Dylan? ◼ Follow Dylan on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dylangemelli/ ◼ Visit Dylan’s website - https://dylangemelli.com/ ◼ The Dylan Gemelli Podcast Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thedylangemellipodcast ◼ Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3In4QlJj4IvHqq0eduKj7m ◼Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/hr/podcast/the-dylan-gemelli-podcast/id1780873400

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And if you don't know, which I don't know how you wouldn't by now, she is my, I call her my baby. She's my cat, but she's my baby. And I told her that I was coming here today to do work for her and all her little friends. That's right. I love it. So I am always on a mission to do God's work and to save as many people as I can. But within that framework, people are not all of God's creation. And my heart and my love have been touched.

And I honestly feel as though the prayers that I've had for more compassion, were answered with Gabriela and it has given me the innate ability to actually love more. And I want to touch on you with this because I feel that pure love from animals is far different than from a human. But my guest today is she's one of a kind. We're going to have a blast, but she's a certified cannabis and fungi clinician. And she has 20 years, actually more than 20 years of expertise with holistic pet wellness. And anybody that follows me knows I'm all about the holistic.

And so we're going to dig deep into the things that she does. And if you're watching on camera, I have this awesome shirt she gives me, dare to keep pets off drugs, which we're going to get into. But she is phenomenal. She has a great podcast, your natural dog, and you've probably seen her if you're into animals at all. So without further ado, thank you for coming to see me, Angela Ardolino. I'm so grateful to be here.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for making this trip. And more than that, thank you for what you do because we need more people like you that are bringing real awareness. It's one thing to say you love animals because a lot of people do. But it's a whole other thing to work in the manner that you are and bringing things to light. So I'm excited to dig into all of this with you. I feel like I am you, but with animals. Yes.

Yes. Where when I listened, found you and started to listen to you, I was like, yep, him and I are going to get along because, and that's what's so funny is that people that are into natural health and naturopathic, you know, medicine and herbalism and nature and all those, and understanding that the body is this very intelligent, knows how to heal, knows how to protect. When I heard you saying all those things, I'm like, it's my favorite way to come to someone like you and go, don't forget, or pay. pets. Because what people don't understand, and I think this is the most important thing, is that in this country, pets are property. So when I entered this space, I literally thought I'd be surrounded by a bunch of hippie-loving dog people. And what I'm surrounded by are some of the most evil players in the industry, because there's no repercussion for them poisoning, hurting, killing your pet, their property. So even if I were, you make a drug or a supplement that

harms or kills my dog and I decide to sue you, you literally, if you win, the judge goes how much were your vet bills? I've dedicated, I'm a human clinician, but I've dedicated my life to animals because like you said, there is, they, especially our dogs and cats, literally give us unconditional love. And sometimes that's the only time people feel that from something. else. Yeah. And I remember when I lost my soul dog, I still not over it. And it was worse than losing my mother. And I didn't understand that. And it was because that dog was there for me. And he gave me unconditional love. And when I figured out, because I couldn't figure out what that profound loss was, and that's what it is. And that is sometimes the only time people feel that

and get that. And to me, nobody's looking out for them or protecting them or speaking out for them. And so that's what I'm going to do. Because they're so important to us. I don't think people realize sometimes, and I didn't either when I would see people that's that, oh, my pet is family and, you know, they would go to these extremes that I didn't grasp it because I had pets when I was younger, but I didn't have that same feeling because I, you know, when you start getting into your teens and everything, you just don't understand. When you see an animal that's angry or upset, it's because stuff has happened to them, right?

Generally speaking. And a human did it to them. Yes. But most, if not all, all they care about is attention and love. That's it. Like, really, that's it. And then, you know, treats and scratches.

And food, right? But that's all love, right? Exactly. When I see that and, you know, I have the same routine every morning, say a prayer with my wife, start to read my scripture, and then sit with Gabriella.

She sits while I read prayers and comes and sits right next to me and I make sure that she has her water and she just just starts purring on me just speaking. I don't have to do anything. Nothing. Well, they have research that proves having an animal and owning an animal is better for your health. Yeah. So it's definitely what you're feeling, what I felt, what people feel. It's for real. Yes. And to me, they need to be protected instead of used as a commodity, which is what's happened. Like I don't, so how I started this journey 20 years ago is I lost my first dog.

I finally got a house and a yard and was responsible and I'm like, I'm going to get my first dog. And across the street, a state-of-the-art conventional veterinary practice opened up. And I literally took her over there and I know that this is how most, what most people do now, because I've been doing it for so long and telling these stories, is I went there and I said, I want to do everything that's going to keep her, and healthy as possible. And to them, that means vaccination every year or every three years, whatever the vaccinations are, and there's several of them.

That means flea and tick pesticides either being put in them or on them. That means heartworm pesticides being put in them or on them. It means a bag of kibble from Perina. And I did everything. that I thought, I remember even reading when I was putting the flea and tick on her and it said, and I'm reading the directions and it says to wear gloves. And I remember going, why do I have to wear gloves on something that I'm putting on my dog's skin? Because it's poison.

Because it's pesticide. It's literally banned in some countries because their ponds and lakes started, their fish started dying. so they tested the water and it was from the dogs with the flea and ticks swimming in the ponds and lakes. So I don't think people understand that. And what makes no sense about flea and ticks, and I know fleas and ticks are a pain in the butt to deal with, but what they don't understand is that the flea and ticks still has to bite your animal to get that pesticide or poison.

So it doesn't even prevent them from biting. Yeah. So it's just at age six, she was throwing up and had diarrhea. and took her to the vet and I was in my late 20s. I had no business spending the amount of money that I spent on trying to get her better and figuring out what was going on. My vet sent me to a specialist emergency like what are they? The VCA's out here.

What are they called? I think it's VCA like the they're everywhere. Yeah. And yeah, $15,000 later, they don't know what's wrong with her. They literally have no idea what's wrong. And a year later, she's dead. Well, now I know what was wrong. And I spent, I also went to school and I'm a broadcast journalist.

So I like to investigate things and get down to the root cause of things and how did this happen? Because honestly, I had just moved into a new house. I was like, is my house toxic? Is there something in the yard? Did she get into something? You know, I wanted to know what it was. Well, what it was was that I was doing everything to kill her immune system and destroy her gut microbiome. Every time that she went in sick, not even being able to stand, they gave her steroids and an antibiotic.

Right. So they stacked that on top of a sick dog. And that's no way to get a dog back to homeostasis or what's normal. And I fed her that kibble every single day like I was instructed. Now I know that kibble is cereal. Right. And it doesn't give them all the nutrients and everything. they need. It doesn't feed the gut. It doesn't help their immune system. So that journey led me

to where I am today, except that I got sick. So I already, from her, learning all about her, sent me on how do we remove toxins. I mean, I was talking about BPA and food coloring 25 years ago. I was literally going on television and radio at a magazine and wrote about these things. And then 10 years ago, I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. Oh, wow. And I was like, whoa. And of course, the drug that is prescribed is Humera, which literally suppresses your immune system. Right.

And is already linked to lymphoma. I'm like, no, thank you. I don't want to take any pharmaceutical drugs. And I looked out there of what would help me. And that's when I found medical cannabis. And the first time I took a tincture. and put it in my mouth, I literally felt the pain leave me. I literally felt like I went, and I was like, what the hell did I just take?

I feel amazing, not high, just good, not in pain, my anxiety and stress went down. I literally was like, I need to know everything about what I just took. And I lived in Florida. It wasn't legal in Florida yet, medical marijuana. This is 2016, 15, 16 around there. And so I ended up finding my magazine was like family oriented, like how to remove the toxins, how to eat healthy, those types of things. So I literally found a group of moms called the Cana moms who were already using cannabis

to stop seizures to get rid of cancer. I was started going to conferences and reporting. I became a huge advocate, got it legal in Florida. I literally sold my business and threw myself into the cannabis industry, having no idea how I'd come out. Hired the best consultant at the time and told him, I want to go everywhere you go. I want to go to every conference. I want to see a good grow versus a bad grow. I want to see medicine versus recreation.

I want to know how to source. I did it all. And in 2016, the University of Vermont School of Medicine launched a medical cannabis program for its biology and therapeutic use. And they called him up and said, hey, we want a killer inaugural class. Do you know anybody? And I got to go. Wow. And that's where I learned about the endocanabinoid system, which is actually called the endocannabinoid Ome now, because it incorporates the whole gut microbiome.

and it is the master system in our body. It's in control of everything else in our body, every other system. And our doctors and veterinarians are taught nothing about it. I bet not. And this incredible system has receptors all over. It's responsible for mood, pain, appetite. It's the biggest decrecer of inflammation, which, as you know, inflammation is the basis

of every disease and problem. So that's why it's such a threat to the pharmaceutical industry because medical cannabis would wipe out most drugs. Because one drug, you could take this, take a medical cannabis product for your pain or your rheumatoid arthritis, and it also fixes your gut, protects your liver, does all of these other, helps your mood, all of these things. So that's why it's such a big threat.

In 1992, do you want to know who had a patent for medical cannabis as an antioxidant and neuroprotective? The United States government. Wow. So they know. They know. They know. For a long time.

And now it's been rescheduled cannabis. So everybody's like, isn't that good news? Isn't that exciting? It is not. What that, what is that, why that is happening is to allow pharmaceutical companies to research and create drugs out of it. Yeah. So what they're going to do is they're going to take out certain compounds, which they've already

done. They've already isolated CBD, which causes liver damage. When you have every CBD with all of its other bioactive compounds, that doesn't happen. Yeah. So they literally have already made CBD out of a, as a pharmaceutical drug, and they'll just start taking all of the cannabinoids and turpines and separating things out so that they can patent it and make billions of dollars. because you can't pat in nature and make billions of dollars.

It's the same thing with peptides, right? They can't take something that's naturally happening. They have to go take something that works in nature, a food, a plant, or a mushroom, and go into a lab and try to recreate it. When they do that and then it turns into a drug and we take it, the body doesn't know what the hell it is. No. It doesn't recognize it anymore.

And now the body has to work overtime. your liver has to work overtime trying to figure out what is this what am i supposed to do with this and when the liver's having to deal with that it's not doing its other jobs and in dogs in particular i don't even know what happens with cats i need to look that up but with dogs when the liver gives up it stores it in its fatty tissue so that's why those of us who have old senior dogs they have lumps and bumps all over them that's what it is and you go to the vet for that lump or bump I'm going to stick a needle in it, aspirate it to sample to see if it's cancerous. If it is, they just help spread the cancer cells through everything.

And then if they go to cut it out and they don't get clean margins, they've just released years of toxins being stored there by the body. So it's like I'm no doctor and I didn't go to medical school, but I learned all of this. And I needed to know why. I had a very busy groom shop. Lumps and bumps are not a friend at a groom shop. Well, if you would have went to medical,

so you would have never learned any of this anyway. None of it. So it's crazy that we know about this system. We know how it works. We have so much research on it, how it interacts with the five pathways of pain, where cannabis, medical cannabis, just about any strain,

is going to interact with all five pathways, pathways of pain, drugs are targeted to just target one of those pathways. Same thing with cancer. Cancer operates through 12 signaling pathways. Cannabis, medical cannabis has already been proven to interact with eight of them. You add medicinal mushroom extracts and good food and maybe a little bit of fasting and you're literally dealing with all 12 pathways of cancer.

And again, what do you hear on a commercial, a cancer targeted drug? They're only targeting one of those pathways when plants and mushrooms and food and exercise and gratitude do work on all 12. You know, I say we like government spend so much time altering and stripping and doing things and ruining everything and never lets it actually do what it was intended to do or or truly work. It's, it dates back.

I don't, I don't even know. I'll just go back to when I was a kid, low fat diet, stripping everything out, billing it with processed garbage, tricking people, putting it into people's heads,

and it just goes from one thing to the next to the next. Medication, same thing. I argue what they call conventional medicine is the real non-conventional. I know. Or they call it traditional. Oh, shit. It ain't traditional.

What's traditional about any of it? It's traditional Chinese medicine. That is traditional. Hervedic medicine, herbalism, that homeopathy, those are traditional medicine. How is anything that's made pharmaceutically traditional? I would consider something traditional, something that dated pretty far back. And had a whole bunch of evidence of it working and being used and all of those things. Just the other day, I was just, I don't know if you saw the National Geographic article about supplements.

It's a good one. I was like, oh shit, what's it going to say? And it brings up how so many people are ending up in the hospital with liver issues. Yeah. And it's because 85% of supplements on the market are crap. Most of them are coming from China. They're with fillers. They're isolates.

It's like every isolate compound thrown in a powder and then thrown on your damn dog's food. And people think nothing of it. It's disrupting everything. You're going to open up a full. five-year conversation out of me in a sec. But like, when I, when I graduated, when I got done, when I was at school and I learned that animals had the endocannabinoid system too, I'm like, that's what I'm doing. I'm going to become the cannabis expert endocannabinoid for animals.

And I'm going to just concentrate, you know, on that part of it. And being able to do that, I was like, okay, I'm going to have a career. where I spend my time training doctors and veterinarians. And I did. That's how I started. But I went to look for products and there weren't any in 2016. I bet not. If I found one, it had a paw print on it and it was here in California.

And it was a human product and they just threw paw print on it. It had things like xylitol, which is deadly to dogs. It had flavorings. It had and they don't, what does this person know about making something for dogs? Right. So, yeah, I became a disruptor really fast at events, and I'd be like, you need to get this shit off your table right now. You are hurting dogs, not helping them. Then I'd realize nobody had a therapeutic dose because, you know, what happens when you make things a therapeutic dose, it gets expensive.

And so they don't ever do that. So instead, you're buying something that might be 49, 59, 99, but you have to give them three dropper fools? Well, how does that make any sense? So I just decided to go, make things that work. Make things that the way they're supposed to. And that means how we all know that we should be getting a biologically appropriate diet. If you eat animals, they should be getting a biologically appropriate diet. If that cow isn't grass fed, grass finished, you're not going to get the vitamins, minerals, and amegas from that cow.

Well, the same thing goes for our plants and our mushrooms. Yeah. So that was the first thing. I saw, for mushrooms, hemp, everybody's growing it inside. You know, mushrooms, they're growing it on grain. Yeah. Or the big Chinese manufacturers that rule most of the, they all, the mushroom products in America come from from the same two damn manufacturers in China,

they grow it on the sawdust from the salt. from the sawmill in China. You know. Treated. Wood. The similarities on what I go through in so many different markets. And I tell people, most people don't ever call me woo or conspiracy, because I say the same thing and I'm just going to say it bluntly.

I'm not your fucking dad. You take whatever you want and do whatever the hell you want. Take all the vaccines you want, eat all the bullshit you want, all the oils, all this. I'm just going to tell you what I know. Do whatever fuck you want. I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm not selling shit. You know, I'm doing work for God by telling you, and then you take with it what you will.

So people know when they come to me and I say it, well, he's probably keeping it as real as you can. So I tell people the same thing. You go on these Reddit forums, which is a cesspool of ignorance, and you could really melt your brain going in there. But let's just say you do. And because it is what pops up first. Right. And you go in there, and I'm going to relate this to peptides. And you'll see these people going, oh, this company.

I buy from is the best and this one sucks and da da da da da da and I I just for entertainment I go and read this see I'm privy to information a lot of people aren't and I'm well then you start going if they knew what we knew well that's just it and then I'm laughing and I'll call queenie in and I'll say look at this shit they're buying the same damn thing because it's I know the companies that are going through the same manufacturer and white labeling their stuff the same emails every day. day showing you the cheap, isolated crap from China that costs nothing. But there's companies that a lot of these places go to and they just white label through the

same manufacturer. So all you're paying more money for is the name and maybe better packaging. But it's what kills me is, oh, that place sucks. You know, this place is so much better. Really, bros off? Because it's the same thing. Yep. I guess the label makes it better.

I don't know. It happens to me all the time. I walk into stores and they have. the big brand. I go, you know that that and that are the same, right? Yeah. That those, that, that and that all come from the same place in China. And if you worked in a growth, yes. No, it's not. They told me that it was and I'm like, no. And then I, what's crazy is I do have formulas. So I ended up formulating because I couldn't find anything literally on the market that was good enough. Same thing with mushrooms. And mushrooms, I was a practitioner for another company,

who I'm talking about, who's from China. And now they're. I became their biggest talking head to, we got shut her up. Because I, when my dog, my Doberman got osteosarcoma, which is bone cancer, and one in nine large breed dogs gets just this cancer. When she got it, I immediately knew what it was and immediately started to go into what I knew what to do. and it was amazing how I started with like working with like 10 vets that I had relationships with or that I had worked with.

And they were immediately saying, you know, nope, nope, she, I don't think it's osteosarcoma. This would be happening or this would be happening. You know, four months goes by. It would have spread to her lungs. She'd be gone by now. Nope, she's still here and thriving and just holding her paw up chasing bunnies and haul an ass and it is in no pain because of this. We even gave her THC.

We gave her 10 milligrams of THC because I know how to do that. Yeah. So when people are frightened of THC or they, you know, think it's toxic to dogs, not if it's a medical product and given right and made right. It's called LD50. There is no lethal dose for dogs or animals, as long as it's a peer product. I'm not telling you go to a dispensary and go buy something and give it to your pet

because that will probably make them sick. You're going to go onto Google and Google is marijuana toxic? It's THC toxic to dogs and there's going to be whole pages saying that they are. I'm talking about medical cannabis. I'm not talking about a recreational product. And they literally in 1973 was called the Rosencrantz study. They wanted to see how much THC would take to kill a person. So, of course, like they always do, they research and test it out on animals.

So they did it on rats, beagles, and monkeys. And they gave them 9,000 milligrams of THC, which I can't even imagine. No. No dogs died. No chimpanzees died. Dogs have something. It's called LD50 lethal dose. They do not.

It's impossible to kill an animal with a pure cannabis product or THC product. So that fear needs to go away. So with my Doberman, if you have a dog that's diagnosed with that, you're offered, and it's the same thing like with humans, right? What are you offered in this conventional medicine, radiation, chemotherapy, and surgery? That's it. It's been that way for a really long time. And there's so much evidence out there. And from what I was taught and from the research on cannabis already interacting with those pathways,

I literally fed her everything. And then it came, when it came to the mushrooms, who I was a practitioner for, I was like, I knew the therapeutic dose of which mushroom I needed to give. And when I looked, I would have to put like five cap, give her five caps. of this powder or put half a pouch in and I'm like, this is awful. Yeah. And then wait a minute. If mushrooms are 80% water and we're like 70, 80% water, why is it a powder?

So I just started going down that deep dive. Down that rabbit hole. The reason it's a powder is because it's coming from China. Yeah. And it's a lot cheaper to send a powder over. Be careful asking logical questions. Right. Be very careful.

Critical thinking skills are the best thing and there's a lost art and everybody should have these. Why? Why is something that's water or an extract out of something water now in its dried form? That's another process that it went through. Every time you put food or plants or mushrooms through a process, you lose bioactive compounds. So that's how I ended up doing, becoming a mushroom manufacturer and professional expert is because then when I look to search, literally could not. What I usually do is I try to find the human who's making the human product that's good enough that meets my standards.

And then I call them up and I go, hi, this is who I am. I was wondering if you'd be interested in working together. And that's what I did. I finally found a microalchemist who does spajirics, which spigirics, there's like literally like three people in the country that even know how to do this. But this is ancient botany and the best way to get all of the compounds and everything out of the mushroom. So that's what we do. This is the other thing that I would, that always made me go. This don't make no sense. To alcohol in tinctures. Really? Why is alcohol in those tinctures?

I didn't know they were. They are. So could someone tell me why we know alcohol's bad for us? Yeah. So why do we have herbal tinctures sitting in alcohol? Well, that's because the way it was always done because you it to extract so in mushrooms and some plants you can do this too you have to do two extractions you have to do a water hot water extraction which pulls out a lot of the beta glucans and the good the vitamins and the minerals types of things and then you have to do a alcohol extraction to get those tri-terpenoids those sterols that are really where the medicine is hiding you have to do that on like the rachis and the turkey tails the really hard ones to break through that outer layer and get those things out.

And alcohol does that. But alcohol is also bad for us. I was going to say, man. So that was the next step was, okay, I don't want alcohol in these. So you got to buy a piece of machinery and it takes a lot more time to evaporate the alcohol off your tincture. But alcohol's not good for us. For our pets, it's even worse because they lack the enzyme that we do to break it down

and remove it from their body. So literally a dropper folds like us doing a shot of alcohol. So I think about those things. That's ridiculous. So I'm operating in this holistic, natural health world. And so are all these other people taking tinctures, taking these mushroom powders, not realizing because they think they're doing better for their pet, not realizing that they're still giving them bad things.

They're still giving things that are interrupting their gut, microbiome disrupting their immune system. You know, their immune system, our pets, our immune systems are constantly being threat. Our pets, it's 10 times worse. They're down there on the ground with the pesticides and the floor cleaner and the plug-in and the laundry detergent and all those chemicals. They're right there, licking it off their feet or their fur. So it's so much worse for them.

We don't need to be bombarding their body with more isolates or, synthetic ingredients or fillers. I can't even believe. I literally, I'm a disruptor now. I didn't know that. I didn't go in here doing a disruptor. All I do is read label ingredients and tell people things and people go, you're just trying to sell your products. And I'm like, no, I'm letting you know that I make products because this is what's in most that's out there. That's always the kick back in the argument. You know what troubles me the most of what you've said. And I was speaking on a panel recently, and it's the same word, and it's the same thing that bothers me the most is the word disruptor. The fact that by doing good and doing right, that's what you're considered is one of the one thing that I never would have thought of imagine growing up or would have never made sense to me, that somebody that's doing good or trying to make a change is being disruptive.

Oh, well, we're disrupting a system. Yeah. And the system is the standard of care system. People don't realize in the vet world, the school that the vets went to is being funded by Mars, by Nestle, the candy companies that also make the drugs, Hills Science Diet, Hills, whatever they call themselves. They fund the schools. I just saw a whole report on like 5.4. $4 million for like one vet school. Like they fund them all.

Now, this isn't just shit I read. I've been to those vet schools teaching. I wasn't invited by the school. I was invited by the holistic club. And they come and listen to me speak on their lunch hour. And then when I walked the hallways, the posters all over the wall look just like the vet office. The vaccinations, the flea and tick bullshit, the food, everything.

So they're literally brainwashed in school. Their schools are funded. They're given free food from the big companies and it's the big five that own everything else. And they now are buying up all the vet offices. So they are literally making the food that makes your dog sick that you then go get the, you know, medicine or medication for. That also has a side effect. Then you have another one and another one. So I had a rescue for 17 years and mostly of a senior dogs.

And every senior dog that I would get, whether it was left at my boarding facility or someone's parent died and they didn't want to take care of it, came with five different medications, a shampoo and ear thing and I thing. It was ridiculous. I'd wean them off of all of that, put them on real food, use natural medicine and get, it didn't matter if the dog was riddled with. with cancer not walking on death's door, I could get the oldest, most decrepit dog back to homeostasis every single time. Nina, my dog with osteosarcoma, extended her life two years past her diagnosis. She was a geriatric doberman. At 18 months, I had to amputate her leg because the tumor was blocking blood flow to her paw, and I could tell it was bothering her. This was never bothering her, but that was bothering her. We did eight diagnostic tests to see where the

cancer was. It had never moved from her wrist. And I don't know if you've ever had the experience of getting like a lung x-ray of your pet. They always are like, oh, I think there's a spec. I need to look at that again. Nothing. Nowhere. Because one of those pathways is metastasitis, where it spreads everywhere. Nope. Not on cannabis medicine. Not on mushroom medicine. not on a ketogenic diet. I fed her once a day so that she could fast. I wouldn't feed her on Sundays

so that she could fast. I did all of the things she could possibly do. And honestly, I think that I could have gone further if I hadn't had to amputate her leg. One of my favorite veterinarians taught me, she said, when you put, when you go under anesthesia,

you're literally putting the immune system offline. Really? And when you come back online, and your dog has just gotten its arm chopped off, what do you think the immune system is concentrating on? That. Right. It just lost a limb, and that's when cancer can take over.

Remember, that dog's also trying to heal, dealing with the trauma and the stress of losing its arm, probably getting an antibiotic and a pain med, and everything else that disrupts it. How the hell are they supposed to get back to normal after that? No. Unless they're young and super-healthy or whatever. So yeah, after that surgery, four months later, she was gone.

Wow. Spread to her lungs. So those are the types of things that I know. And I'm just like, when I told you when I met Judy right before I met you, Dr. Judy Morgan, and she started to talk to me about the vaccines and everything. And I switched vets and I found a place that actually does like all wild animals. It's very cool. Yeah.

So they have their own place. It's like a little farm by my house. I found them. We went there and she's like, you know, if I'm being honest with you, you don't need any of this. I said, fuck, forget it. But I did do a full comprehensive exam. And I think because I'm so trained on blood panels for humans. And those are things that you don't do or you just, oh, they're fine, they're fine.

They sound great. I don't care how they sound. That doesn't tell me anything. Tell me what's going on inside. Well, one time, Gabrielle, I was having hairballs. And I said, I took her in. And I, you know, she sheds a lot. And we were in Iowa at the time.

but I said, just do the x-ray anyway. Let me see if there's anything in there. And then they found a little bit of calcium in there, which I panicked. And we changed her food because she's so picky. And I put her on a prescription. It was not the hills, none of that, but a different one. And then it normalized and it stabilized. And then when I went back this last time, I didn't do anything.

No vaccines, no shots, no nothing, just the exam, just to be sure. And I'm just going to do that every year. but I would like two things that I would like you to answer for me. I want to go into the vaccine schedules. But I want you to explain the difference between medical grade, marijuana, and the one that I used forever. Recreation. Yeah. The recreational, which I don't anymore.

But yes, please explain the difference so that people understand. Because you know, like we were talking off camera, everybody goes into this thing that's been embedded into our heads. this bullshit. Yeah, they'll take a pain med or an opioid or whatever, which will literally stop your heart and stop your breathing. And medical cannibals will not do that. Or drink all weekend. Right, or drink a weekend. Yeah. So it's, one is medicine and one's a drug. How is it, how's it made differently? So medical cannabis is usually, if it's extracted correctly, it's a full spectrum. So meaning it's getting all of, just like the mushrooms, it's getting all of those beneficial compounds out. Right now, there's 118, maybe more, I know there's more, that have been discovered

cannabinoids. So CBD and THC are just two. They're the major ones, but there's 118 of them. Wow. And Big Pharma's probably going to make a drug out of every single one. There's literally one that suppresses appetite, so you know that's going to be some sort of diet. And then there's one that, I'm telling you, it's going to be all of them. But the problem is, is that it needs all of the other thousands of compounds. So the turpines, the flavonoids, the fatty acids, the proteins, like it literally to make the cannabinoids bind to the receptors to make, stimulate the endocannabinoid system. CBD on its own can't do that. THC on its own can't do that. CBG on its own can't do that. So that's the difference between medicine, is how you're extracting it everywhere from strains.

strain is higher in these cannabinoids, which are better for these conditions. This is higher in this one. But a lot of the compounds that you already recognize, like beta caraphylene, cursitin, I don't know why I can't think of any, all the omegas, all the things, all those exist in plants and exist in cannabis. The reason cannabis is so magical is because it interacts with this master system. So we produce, this master system, there's receptors everywhere all over our skin, our organs, all over the gut microbiome. Matter of fact, they discovered one of our endocannabinoids in canine gut tissue. So it is everywhere. And we produce endocannabinoids. But when we don't produce them for one reason or another, we start having deficiencies and issues and problems. And

there just happens to be this wonderful plant that produces phytocannabinoids so that when we take them, almost like someone planned it that way. And when we take them, it literally fills those deficiencies and brings us back to homeostasis. What a recreational product is, is to get you high. So literally, it's mostly THC, which doesn't make any sense to me, because if you want a good high, you want a, you want a flower that was grown right and a strain that was grown right that has all the good stuff. Matter fact, if you do go to a dispensary in one of the legal states and you end up taking something that you're like, oh my God, I'm too high, CBD dampens the effects. Yeah. Soda turpene is like mercine or limine. So you literally could like eat a mango because

mercine is in mango or lemonade, suck on a lemon and even that will help bring your high down. So I just, it's the way nature works. Nature knows what it's doing and so does our bodies. But our conventional doctors are literally taught. Nothing. They're taught, no, they're literally taught the opposite. That's what I'm saying. They're taught, the other day I had a conventional veterinarian on, no, no, I was on her podcast.

I went on her podcast. I didn't know she was a conventional vet. I figured she looked me up and knew I was. was. So, and she did start by going, hey, I just wanted you to know that I'm conventional. Are you okay if we talk, you know, both or whatever? And I was like, oh, of course, but yes, I just want to make sure you know who I was. And at one point I said, I'm, I think I, like, because I always say this, I want to get to the root cause. She asked me, what did I mean? I get to the root cause. How scary is that? I was like, what do you mean? What do I mean?

Like what caused the body to become dysfunctional? What happened so that we're no longer balanced and something's off? And the body is telling us that through the symptoms. And we want to get to where it started. She didn't understand that. I had another veterinarian. This was a holistic. I love having holistics on and going, so what did you learn in school?

Because they tell me the same thing every time and learn shit about diet and nutrition. and learn herbalism isn't even meant why am I going to school for a doctor and I'm not taught about the history of medicine why aren't I talking about traditional Chinese medicine that's been around for centuries in ayurvedic and herbalism and homeopathy it's all been proven and worked it's great it wasn't until 50s and the 50s until rockefeller went oh i can make drugs out of petroleum instead of plants and mushrooms i'm going to do that and then i'm going to villainize the natural stuff yeah and that's where we're at today So this vet I asked her, the holistic, I said, Okay, you're sitting in class, it's allergies. You're going to talk about allergies today.

What do they teach you? She said, are you ready for this? They teach you that your body having an allergic reaction is wrong and it needs to be stopped. So that literally our body has an innate ability, I know you know this, to protect ourselves and heal ourselves. And they want to turn that off and go against it and block actions. So instead of our immune system reacting, they want to turn it off because they think that's wrong.

And then they do the same thing with nature, right? We have proof. We researched it. We've millions of cases that show plant extracts and mushroom extracts are medicine. Every drug comes from a food, a plant, or a mushroom. So why are we villainizing these natural things? Why are we getting so far away from nature? Money and control and greed is why.

We, they spend so much time trying to trick our bodies and have it do what it wasn't intended to do as opposed to staying with the grain and working with it and doing things in the right way, what I would deem the conventional way, God's way, but we try to play that system and continuously trying to do it. It's the same. I've watched it now because I've been paying attention to this since I was a teenager and

then obviously now the more that I've studied it and been around it. And all I've seen time and time again is this is the next new thing and it always backfires one way or another. The mechanism of action is always trickery. I mean, if you really are analytical and you understand what mechanism of action means and how it works and how it was what it's comprised of and look at everything in there it always ends up something that you're trying to trick our body well because what they're doing is they look for that one mechanism of action and they just concentrate on that mechanism of action but let's say this is a

CB1 CB2 receptor and this is CBD if i just have CBD by itself it's never going to bind to that receptor. Yeah. So yeah, it's in there, but it's just floating around. You know, it's just, when you start messing and pulling things apart, you mess it up. And then what's worse is that they've, okay, they have that one action, right? They made that drug and it does that one action, but then they have all of these other things in it. And again, the liver doesn't know what the hell it is. So whether it stops the action and makes you feel better and whatever, look, I'm not saying I'm anti-pharmaceuticals. They are absolutely necessary.

Absolutely. I have a heart attack, which I don't ever plan on having one, or a car accident, or I break my arm or anything or my animal. Absolutely, I'm going to go and use conventional medicine. I think it's very important. I even think steroids and antibiotics are important.

But these are supposed to be used temporarily while we get rid of the threat, not long term. Like the drug apicoal for allergies. Shit. Full Spectrum Hemp extract does the same action without all the harsh side effects. Apochyl has is the beginning of so many causes of cancer and issues and problems and how many dogs. That was the first one.

I was like, I need to get dogs off of this because I could see them. I could see their hair falling out. They're still itching. They're still miserable. That's what I don't understand is why people continue to give their dog a drug when it's not working. It's a constant robbing Peter to pay pollen before you know what you're on 10 different things to counter out the side effect of the other. I will have this joke a lot of times and I'll say it, you know, those commercials that are like more obscure drugs that have the real catchy song in there

to take your mind away when they get to the point of and if you die, you can sue us. That might be one of the side effects. And I'm like, yeah, okay, sweet. Let's let's get on this shit. Because The commercial sounded so sweet. And it's always followed. The only time I watch regular television is when I'm traveling. Yeah. And I literally turn it on to see what people are seeing. And it's a human pharmaceutical drug, followed by a dog pharmaceutical drug.

Yes. It's insane. Followed by a fast food commercial, followed by a fast food. And I'm just like, oh, my gosh. The things that they say will happen to you are like the worst. You could get a flesh eating disorder. And I mean, it's like, what? And they still take it.

Yeah. And what's worse, but people don't understand is that a drug rep walks into your doctor's office and sells them a drug. That's it. And here in the vet office, they literally say, are there any side effects? And the rep says, nope. And that's happening right now of the drug called Lebrella. I talk about this drug, every podcast I go on because it is one of the most evil. I thought Apochyl and CidPoint were the worst.

This is the worst. this drug, and this happens all the time. Pfizer owns Zoetis. Zootis makes animal drugs. When Pfizer makes a drug, and remember that drug is a compound they found in a plant and mushroom that they have to now recreate in a lab, when they do that, that takes a lot of time in millions and millions of dollars. And then they supposedly prove that it's safe and effective,

and they don't really. I know more about what they do in the animal research, which we have to talk about because I did my own research, and that's how I know all this. Shit, I forgot what I was saying. There's too many things to cover. I know, because now all I'm doing is thinking about the research. But in animal drugs, oh, it's talking about LaBrella.

Okay, got it back. So they make the drug in the human realm, they release it. It starts having major side effects, hurting people. They recall the drug and take it off the market. Nobody's prescribing it anymore because there's too many, whatever. Guess where it goes. It goes over to the animals. Because they're not about to lose those millions of dollars.

And that's exactly what Librella is. And LaBrella was a failed human drug that is now over here, renamed, repackaged as an osteoarthritis pain med, and it causes osteoarthritis, because do you know what it does? It blocks nerve growth factor. Like the audacity of man to block something so important. Yeah, what? So now dogs die within 12 hours, 24 hours, get osteoarthritis instead, and the people. People think that the FDA is protecting us and our animals?

No. They ain't. No. The FDA protects the pharmaceutical companies. But even the FDA has sent a letter out to veterinarians warning them about this drug and it's still on the market and being prescribed every single day. There's a major class action suit. Facebook groups. I talk about it everywhere.

We're watching Zoedis' stock finally. Deep dive. But at the same time, they've pushed the marketing. for the drug like crazy because again they want to make as much money as they possibly can off of it. And over in Europe, they've released an injectable. Because an injectable, you've got to go into the office and get it. But it's so icky. 17,000 adverse reports already.

And it's not even five years old yet. Well, I think that we saw after the COVID situation how easy it is to manipulate the world. and so to manipulate people that have pets or a random person that goes into the doctor's office, because here's what's easy to do in your and I situation or somebody that's more into the no and studies this and is around it daily. Most people aren't. You know, that's like a mechanic assuming everybody knows how to fix breaks. Exactly.

You know what I mean? Just because you know how to do it, you just assume that, which is easy to do. But don't you think more people know how to fix their breaks than to take care of their own house? I don't even know anymore, honestly. I would never ever put something in or on me, my child, or my pet, without doing a deep dive of reading the ingredients, understanding the ingredients, looking at the side effects, looking up the adverse events, because it's not the doctor's responsibility if they kill your pet or hurt you.

No. It's yours. The problem is... You have to take responsibility for it. But you get a pill bottle that's going to. got more ingredients than a cheesecake factory menu and you just get rid of it. Get rid of it. I have this thing and unless it's something with a bunch of greens and vegetables and stuff

that's going to have a long list, if it's just something basic and it's got like 10, 12 things, I'm going to say 99.99% is probably not good. No. Probably not good. Especially if you can't pronounce it or you don't recognize what it is. And then what's worse is like on supplements. They have the active ingredients and then they have the second thing called the inactive or other ingredients that nobody looks at or pays attention to.

And that's where all of the fillers and additives. And what people don't understand is those fillers and additives are only in there so that they make more money. Yes. They're only in there to make machines work better. There's one called microchrystalline cellulose. This is the one that the China company hates that I bring up all the time. I know what it is.

It's sawdust. Yeah. Why are we okay? And it's solid dust. one of its main reasons is to fill up the capsule all the way. So that you think you're getting a whole capsule full of medicinal compounds when instead some, it's 80% sawdust that you're taking. That's the thing that most people, they take a capsule and they see the milligram they're getting,

but they don't, and you can't blame them. They wouldn't know that that amount is like this little amount to put into a pill and everything else then is some sort of filler. Now you can use things. There are fillers. aren't harmful but they're more expensive exactly the cheapest way to do it is to take something that's not going to help you that's what always gets me about the people that bitch and complain about brands that cost more yep because they're not doing any of this stuff

right when you see these certifications and these different things that are showing that people are seeing what's actually being put in there you're not just paying for the label you're paying for the safety yep and there's a reason why The places that are, and I don't want to throw a shade because I love Costco and I love places like that. But when you see protein powders and things in Costco, they don't have any of these certifications on there and they're able to do that because they have the biggest dog shit protein powder. Also remember that if you're done in Costco, then you need to really make a product that you, to make a profit on selling something in Costco, you have to bulk, manufacture it, bulk, package it, all of it. So anything bulk is going to be shit. Yeah.

Because that's the only way for you to make money off of it. That's it. Put it in that shit plastic container that's leaching plastics into it and put the filler and the powders in it. So you feel like you're getting a lot, all of that. Yeah. I'd love to talk about research now because never in a million years did I think that this is how research was done. But I created, I had mostly senior daughter.

at my rescue and literally there wasn't anything. I'd be like, bring it. What's next? Right? Let me see what I could do next. Like that's how I got until dementia. And one of my dogs who literally got rid of her MCT, got rid of her lameness, you know, like it's 16 years old.

Now she's 18 and she's getting up from her bed, walking over to her water bowl and just standing there and staring at it, going back to her bed, laying down, getting up and doing it four times in a row and I'm like, what the heck is going on? And my partners lost his dad to Alzheimer's. And he goes, I think she has Alzheimer's. And I'm like, what do you know? How do you know this? And he goes, well, do you know how you die from Alzheimer's?

Do you now how you die from Alzheimer's? You forget how to eat and drink. Wow. You're still hungry and you're still thirsty. But you don't know how. But you don't know how to do it. And I was literally watching this thirsty dog just standing. there, stare at her water bowl, and not how to do it. And I was like, so then I go down the deep dive

or whatever. I had dogs with CCD before, and I didn't know that's what it was. Like my sole dog was now, I'd say 15, and he started waking up in the middle of the night, walking around. I'd take him outside. And I know people who have senior dogs have gone through this, because every time I was on tour with Dr. Judy for literally two years straight, we went all over and and spoke about this. And most people, well, there's even a research that says it's like 56% of people who own pets have a senior pet at home. So I would ask, like an audience of 250, I'd say, raise your hand if you have a senior pet. And remember, a senior pet is large breed, six years old.

Medium breed, eight to ten, a small breed ten years old. So people don't understand that. That's when your dog is a senior citizen and absolutely needs support by, then, if not sooner. Yeah. And plants and mushrooms are a beautiful way to support the end diet, to support their innate ability to protect and heal themselves with their immune system. And I'd ask, raise your hand, if you have a senior animal, I'd tell them what it is,

they'd raise your hand, it'd be most of the audience. And I'd go, keep your hand up if your dog is waking you up in the middle of the night. All the hands stayed up. And I was like, wow, what I'm experiencing is what everybody's experiencing. Do I have to pee? Do I need water? And it's just a disrupt. It's just that's early signs of sundowners and dogs.

One of the worst things that I would hear is people go, my dog fell in the pool and drowned. That pool has been there for 15 years. She knows about the pool. Not anymore because now she's got sundowners or Alzheimer's. So I started to look. There was nothing on the market to help these animals. I also realized that this is why I have a senior dog rescue in so many. senior dogs is because people go to the vet and they're told, and there's nothing you can do,

you might as well put them down. And they can't. So they end up at my rescue. Or I'd even have vets that would call and go, hey, I got a case. I don't think it's ready. I think you could do something with them. And I'd take them and bring them back to normal. So like you, started researching like crazy, what are the plants and mushrooms out there that have already been proven in Chinese or aurevetic, found Lions May. Yeah. dual extract of lions, mains, compounds, and Bacopa Maneri, which is an Ayurvedic adaptogen, which I'm guessing you know what adaptogens are, and those that don't know, adaptogens are my favorite.

Adaptogens, I feel like you can literally do no harm. You and I can take the same tincture, and it's going to do different things because it's going to adapt to your stressors and what you need, and same here. So it's like, even if I'm taking it because I'm in pain or I want to, want to calm down, it's going to do so many other things at the same time. So Bacopo Maneri is an adaptogen that has already been proven to be an anti-ager, same with Lions Maine. They literally have been proven to regrow neurons, neurogenesis, sorry, regrow or telomeres.

So all of that research was already done. So I took those, sourced those, went to my microalchemist, added some aschvaganda and some Rishi and corticeps because of how they also calm the brain and stressors and bring us back to homeostasis. Yeah. And combined them and started giving it to dogs and literally watch dogs go from. Another thing they do is they stand in the corner and like bark or they get lost or they're constantly walking in circles and things like that and literally would watch those dogs stop.

Yeah. I had one that couldn't even make eye contact with me. And then she did. Yeah. And I was like, holy shit. I can't believe how quickly. and how well. That's what happens every time, Darren, when I grow it right and extract it right and preserve it

right and take the research and make it a therapeutic dose, it works. Yeah. And that's why I'm successful. That's why I have an incredible customer retention rate because I'm one of the first products that people finally use it in one dropper full. They see a result within 24 hours. And that breaks my heart that that's how all medicine could be. Yeah.

It could be that natural. So I decided, since there was nothing on the market for dogs suffering from dementia or CCD, that I'd do a piece of clinical research. And I funded it, and I hired a research firm that did it for pharmaceutical drugs. He was a retired conventional veterinarian who has been doing this for 15 years for pharmaceutical drugs. We were his first natural product. He thought we were crazy. He literally started the very first meeting by saying,

I just want you guys to not get your hopes up because you're probably not going to prove anything or find anything. And I'm thinking to myself, dude, I already know what's going to happen. And he goes, and just so you know, for pharmaceutical drugs, all they have to do in the vet space is that they have to prove for the first three months that the animal's health doesn't change. They don't have to prove that it works. they just have to prove that the animal isn't going to get worse. So they go, you've heard of the Ridgelan beagles. Yeah. They go tested on young, healthy beagles.

And they say, yep, nothing changed in three months. And remember, these are dogs, this is for senior dogs. So, or sick dogs, why are we doing it on young, healthy puppies? Like apiquil Apical has a warning on their thing along with all the cancers

or whatever because the FDA told them but that's never handed to you and your vet knows nothing about it and you never get that information there's a warning that says don't give to dogs under 12 months of age

do you want to know how they know that because they killed dogs under 12 months of age so I don't think people understand the pharmaceutical drugs are being tested on dogs because they're

They have to do that. They have to show it. And then the other thing that's so disgusting, because this is how I've read all of their research, I literally, I'm not a big fan of AI until it comes to things like this, because you literally can't decipher things. Like, why did Apochill start this research study and then end it and then started another one and then another one? Because they kept getting results that they didn't want.

Yeah. So they just tweak it a little bit. Yeah. That whole time, they're literally torturing and killing dogs with chemistry. the whole time. So we did a research, oh, this is the other thing that's crazy. Librella that I just told you about, Librella, I looked up their research three months, three times. And the only way that they tracked was pet parent surveys. So that is the biggest pharmaceutical company in the country, how they do research for these dangerous drugs for your dog. I, Angela Erdalino,

Little old me did more in my research study than the largest pharmaceutical company in the United States did. What? Yeah. So I did parent surveys also, but I also did collars that tracked their heart rate, their act, you know, what they're breathing, whether were they sleeping? Were they still walking around in circles and barking at nothing? We also did two blood tests. We did the CRP, C-reactive protein to measure the inflammation in their body, and BDNF, brain-derived nitropic factor, which is neurogen, proves neurogenesis and neurons are being regenerated.

Is that all we did? Yes, we did all of that, and we had an 81% improvement rate. We had dogs with mild, moderate, and severe CCD, already diagnosed. by their vet. The severe dogs didn't get worse, which is crazy because if you have had a dog, it happens fast. It's like within a year they go really fast. Because remember, one year in dog's life is seven years of our life. Right. So it goes fast. The mild and moderate got better. They got better. So to me, dogs brains and human brains are the same. So I would love to continue this research study and then bringing into humans. I'm sure they'll never let me make it a drug. But I want to

just keep on proving what the extracts of plants and mushrooms can do. It is no, it's not a miracle. They're here for us and we should be, we should be able to get them in their purest form. I like to say a mother's nature's apprentice, right? She provides us with all the food and medicine that we need. All of it. Can I get an amen? I seriously. Well, I have a good script setting for another part because, I mean, I can't believe how fast we went here. I mean, it's just insane. I want to talk about, I have a list of things I want to talk about that we're going to have to discuss off camera, but really a diet plan and then the vaccine scheduling. I have a whole list of things that we're going to have to do. And I will talk to you about.

round table discussions that we need to have on this because this is way more severe than you know I couldn't know because it's not my area I'm briefly that's why I'm so happy to be here and grateful because you understand everything that I'm saying we just I did the same thing we just didn't think about well we have to combine now one of the most beautiful thing that happens with what I do every single day is that my main customer base is women between 45 and 65 and they worship that pet as their baby and they learn how to take care of them themselves they learn oh that's how the body work in the immune system and no i don't want to put something else in them that's going to make their liver have to deal with it you know they start learning and then they get their dog back to health themselves and then they turn to me and go can i do this for myself yeah you sure can't so i love

it that i get to help people through helping their animals um because it is i can't tell you how many people have learned. And that's why I was bringing up. Kibble's cereal. Do you want to eat Cheerios every single day with no milk? Do you think you're going to get all the nutrients you need from eating cereal every single day with no milk? No, you're not. And Cheerios is high in Kibble. Yeah. I'm talking most shit's fruit loops. I appreciate your effort and your ability to be bold in how you speak, which is why I think so highly of you because I carry that with me and it's never a burden, it's a privilege. And I hope people that are fearful that have knowledge and wisdom and capabilities realize that it's a privilege and it's a blessing. It's not something to hide nor

run away from. It's something to... It's the most important thing. Yes. And it sounds overwhelming. It's not. At first it seems like it is, but then you start going, nope, poison, fake, chemical, plastic, red, not a real color. Don't know what that is on the ingredient label. Put it back. Guys got to remember that it's all marketing on the front of a package. You got to turn that package over and read the ingredients. That's right. You should even if you, I try to like even stay in the holistic natural world and talk to people and go, just because it's in a bottle or says it's whatever, they are over here because they know we're going to spend more money because we're in the holistic space.

So all of the evil players are over here. All the evil players are in the pet space. Yeah. And they're all, Mars just released their first raw food. Shit. And remember, the Pepsi probiotic. Yes. Oh, I just saw pet food that's filled with probiotics.

Uh-huh. They're like, oh, why is it so good? What's this new food that you guys are carrying? Because, of course, it's raw. And they've put a whole bunch of probiotics in it. I'm like, oh, great. So we're going to cause some overgrowth of those strains. That's good.

That's not natural. It's not natural. Tell everybody where to follow you and come check out your amazing product line. My website is my name, Angela Artilino.com, where all my blogs and charts and guides and everything to try to make it easier for you are there. My podcast is your natural dog. This is all I talk about and try to bring on holistics and experts on to talk about these things. And my products are myco dog and CBD dog health. Excellent. I'll notate everything in the description, but I believe this is the first of many conversations we're going to have on air.

Awesome. So thank you for coming to see me and thank you again for all of this because it's needed. And I will continue to help people like you all day long. Thank you. You are very welcome. Thank you so much for having me. Stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jameli, signing off.