The Dylan Gemelli Podcast - Episode #96 Featuring Lea Llovio! CONSCIOUS WELLNESS! Connecting the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT! Spiritual Awakening, Finding your true self, The role of Nutrition in mental health and more!

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Episode #96 Featuring Lea Llovio!  THE MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT Episode!  Defining CONSCIOUS WELLNESS!  This conversation hit home for me in so many ways and opened my eyes to many areas that I needed to address.  Lea speaks with a softness and eloquence that captivates an audience but also locks you in to every word she speaks.  We cover all aspects of connecting the mind, body and spirit.  Lea explains what exactly conscious wellness is, why it is important to full health obtainment and how to improve upon it!  We have a long discussion on the interconnection of the mind, body and spirit and why it takes ALL three to be TRULY healthy.  The discussion shifts to material wealth and becoming reliant upon it for the hopes of happiness and how doing this leads to a path of emptiness.  We then discuss daily acts of kindness and the impact it can not only have on others but also our internal selves.  The discussion shifts to the role of nutrition in our mental health and how big of a role the foods we eat have on our minds and function.  Then the discussion turns to nootropics and peptides, with intricate details of the role they play and the future they have on helping people with many different types of health areas.  We end talking about mindsets in health practices and the importance of open mindedness and covering all the bases!  This discussion is not only fascinating, but HIGHLY impactful and can have a major effect on changing your life for the better!  I would NOT MISS THIS EPISODE!!     Check out Lea's homepage: https://leallovio.com/   Follow Lea on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leallovio/       Today's episode is sponsored by TONUM!    TONUM supplements for the MIND AND BODY!   USE CODE "DYLAN" to save 10%!!  https://www.tonum.com/DYLAN   _______________________________________________________________________________   Get the Apollo Neuro for $99 OFF!! USE CODE GEMELLI to save https://apolloneuro.com/gemelli       To PURCHASE MITOPURE visit Dylan's landing page and use code DYLAN to save 20% OFF!! https://shop.timeline.com/DYLAN       The worlds FIRST EVER Topical Glutathione at AURO WELLNESS!  SAVE 15% with code "DYLAN" https://aurowellness.com/dylangemelli       TONUM supplements for the MIND AND BODY!   USE CODE "DYLAN" to save!!  https://www.tonum.com/DYLAN       TRULY Increase Your NAD LEVELS with WONDERFEEL NMN: https://getwonderfeel.com/?utm_source=DylanGemelli&utm_medium=podcast       MESCREEN: The world's first and only at home mitochondrial efficiency test Save $100 with CODE   DYLAN   https://mescreen.com/cart/47561239626013:1?discount=&ref=DYLAN       HIRE DYLAN ON THE MINNECT APP HERE: expert.minnect.com/@DylanGemelli     Follow Dylan on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and Tiktok @dylangemelli and PLEASE SUBSCRIBE and leave reviews!!   MAKE SURE TO GO TO DYLAN'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL for MORE video content!!    https://www.youtube.com/@DylanGemelliBiohacking Email Dylan for booking, collaborations and/or to apply for the Dylan Gemelli Podcast [e-mail] Visit Dylan's Homepage https://dylangemelli.com

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to come in here and think that it's worth their time to come and see me and talk. So we are going to talk about a lot today. We have a good connection on things that we talk about that is exciting to me because I'm really, the past several months put a lot of work into connecting mind and body. And I know that's your specialty. And I love that. And I can't wait to really get in deep with you on this. So my guest is known as the Doc Whisperer. And she's a conscious wellness thought leader. And she's a globally sought after keynote speaker. And she integrates scientific medicine and spiritual medicine, which I absolutely love. And we are going to get into intricate detail on everything you do and uncover, I think,

some things that people are probably unaware of that go along in their lives and things that I know that you work on. So thank you and welcome Leah Lovio. Thank you so much, Dylan. It's really my pleasure to be here. And I, like you, feel very grateful that in the wellness community that we're now starting to realize the importance of our thought processes, of the mind, body, spirit connection. And, you know, we do so much in the wellness world. We use devices.

We use light therapy, supplements, peptides, all of the things. And there are distinguishing factors in people on who they actually work for. Right. Because you and I both know the people that do everything and sometimes just can't seem to get better. And so I'm really grateful that you've invited me to have this conversation and that you've also pivoted somewhat into bringing more of the mental, emotional, and spiritual wellness that really affects our physical healing, which is so, so important. I think that's what makes us conscious wellness people. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, it took me meeting Dr. Dave Rabin and getting.

into the neuroscience stuff and then piecing it together and making my life about becoming God first, that's when I really started to understand the need for the spirituality on my happiness, but then correlating it all together to bring it all together is one, because I can give you all the diet in the world, all the training, everything. And if you're not good here, it doesn't really matter because we're not going to fix anything, right? What kind of battles do you encounter with people that are struggling here and how much can it? actually throw off your total wellness? Well, I love that you're mentioning that because I think they go hand in hand, right? And it's really never one or the other. For example, I will start by saying that

conscious wellness incorporates the mental, emotional, and spiritual and physical wellness. Why? Because, for example, if we did all of the mental and emotional work, if we have a crap diet, if we do not actually take care of what we consume, if we don't take care of our environment as much as we can, it still makes it very difficult even to optimize the mental processes, the thought processes. So in the beginning for me, when I started working with people, I worked more on the mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of their lives. But what happened as time progressed is that I had people that had everything going on and they could, you know, consult with anyone they wanted to. But if they were not actually incorporating the thought processes and really focusing on what they thought about everything they were doing, what they thought about these peptides, what do they think about these supplements, what do they think about pharma as a whole?

What do they think about scientific medicine? If we couldn't fix what we think about all of the processes, all of the strategies and all of the protocols that we do, then again, there's an interference to that healing process. However, just the same, you can have someone who is a master meditator that has all of the faith in the world, that really feels peaceful spiritually. But, and this happens a lot, especially with empathetic people, people that have as their goal in life to help other people heal. If they don't optimize their physical body, if their brain chemistries off, it's very difficult to ask them to, you know, have a prayer practice in the morning, have a meditation practice in the morning or mindfulness practice. Why? Because the brain chemistry is off. The same thing with the hormones. And I know you have a lot of expertise in the hormones and in the physical wellness. And so they really do go hand in hand and when we encompass all of it, and it doesn't have to be all at the same time, this is when you truly see people that are living these extraordinary lives that you see them and they always seem happy.

You know, they are healthy. They have great vitality. They have beautiful relationships and people that they love. They're thriving in their business and their careers. Why? Because they decided at some point in time, you know what? I'm going to be really ambitious. Why am I just going to have material things?

Or why am I just going to have physical health? Or why am I just going to have a spiritual life? Why not incorporate all of it so that we can live our absolute best life that could actually really be bliss on earth? And it really does start with the thought processes, but realizing that if you have any sense of spirituality, if you do believe that you are a spirit, if you do believe that you have a soul,

well, that beautiful spirit, that beautiful soul did choose this physical vessel to navigate this life in. And so we have to take care of both the mental, emotional, spiritual, and the physical. When you're like a type A personality and you never stop, and I don't deal with stress always perfectly. And sometimes I think that one of the reasons that I was kind of pushed towards this was more like God's work, teach people what you do, help them to overcome the issues that you're having. I think that when a lot of things that happen to us, for some reason, when you go teach people, they happen to you for a reason because you were meant to help people and teach people,

which then brings me to the question of, how did this really become a passion for you to where you decided, okay, I'm going to dedicate my life to helping people up here, piece it together? Was there something in your life that encouraged you to do that? Something that happened to you, something that you study, then you saw, that turned the light bulb on? What was it? I think most people have their traumas. They have imperfect lives, right? Especially as you're growing up.

In my particular case, I grew up in Los Angeles. And Los Angeles can present you with any type of chaos that you can imagine. I know. At the same time, I call it Los Angeles the city of angels. because I feel that sometimes in the chaos, you find so many angels. And really so many people come to Los Angeles, to the United States, to California, to make their dreams happen, right? And so in Los Angeles, we have every spiritual practice, every religious practice,

every ethnicity, every culture, every belief system, every political system. And when you're surrounded by all of that, which becomes chaos, you must find a spiritual center to anchor yourself in. And I did grow up in the more violent areas of Los Angeles per se. And I'm actually very grateful that I did because I had to learn to use my spirituality and my power to keep my own peace. At the same time, it really exposed me to so much pain and suffering. And, you know, there's a lot of gangs.

There's a lot of drug addiction. There's a lot of violence. There's a lot of crime. And so when you see all of that, you realize, wow, people are suffering. People really need some help. And if they don't have a spiritual anchor, it makes it really difficult. Yeah. Especially for people that are living in poverty, for example.

They don't have access to organic food. For example, I grew up on Pop-Tarts and, you know, Twinkies and Cheetos and stuff. spam, you know, those, those were my meals, you know. I came from an immigrant family, and that's what we could afford. We literally ate government cheese. And so with that, even more it became important for me to understand that there was something more than this physical world. And I was very blessed to be exposed, again, to many spiritual practices, to many religions, to many types of healing, not just in the religious setting, but, you know, many people that come from many different places, for example, in some countries that don't allow

people to practice their religion. So they find other spiritual ways to practice their spirituality. They have to do it secretly behind closed doors. And sometimes, you know, this is where lighting a candle comes in. This is where praying to the angels comes in because you can do that anywhere. You can do that privately. And so with having that exposure in my life, it really made me always, value that spiritual relationship with the divine, you know, whether you call it God, you know, whatever you decide to call it, but there is this spiritual presence that can anchor each person. And the other thing about being exposed to all of these different practices is that I think that God is so good that God actually created all of these religions and all these practices

to say, hey, I don't care what you call me, just call me. And so I really love that I was exposed to all of this. And I was, when I was 16 years old, I was doing television shows a lot for Latin America. And then I ended up working on films as an actress and TV shows. And what happened for me is that I ended up always being everyone's spiritual advisor. Everyone's therapist. And although it was very, you know, lucrative and attractive to have this type of career, I realized that my calling was really to help people mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. And I have always gone where I'm called. I feel that, you know, some people are very harsh on people and say, oh, you know, you're not working hard.

You can do whatever you want. Some people don't have the luxury of choosing what they're going to do. Some people have to literally survive, right? And so I think there's survival and then there's doing what you're called to do. right? And so also living in Los Angeles, that's another thing that you see, that a lot of people are in survival mode. Right. And so as I started having these relationships with people that became my clients, really, even though they weren't paying me, I had someone one day say to me, you know, I think I should be paying you for this. And so then that's when my career started shifting. And I did this work privately for a very long time. And because I started in the entertainment industry, I had very high profile clients. And so I've always, you know, been under very strict NDAs and had to work that way, which is very good because everybody needs someone that they can fully trust.

Exactly. And especially when you have a public persona, right? In this day and age, everybody has a public persona because we've got social media. Right. But back then it wasn't as prevalent. And, you know, mostly we heard about politicians or celebrities. And so that's how it started for me was really following what I was called to do and knowing that my primary purpose in life is to serve. That is the most important thing. If I'm given

this sacred physical vessel in this lifetime, then I'm here to do something for the world. It's not just for what's in it for me. And I have found this to be the most rewarding work in my life is to be there to serve others. When one would have looked at what I had going on and said, oh, you have everything, I would go to bed miserable and I would wonder what was missing. sweet cars, awesome house, arcade in my house, I mean, just all kinds of stuff, a bunch of shit. And I would think,

why do I, why do I go to bed unhappy? Why do I seem like I'm not, something's off? And when I stopped being like a slave to wanting stuff and became far more God first and far more about others, not dealing this,

dealing that, it was about, what, what am I doing here? What am I supposed? to be doing. How am I supposed to be doing this? What am I missing? Everything changed and flipped upside down. My question to you is, because I've experienced that, do you find a lot of, like, emptiness, a lot of trouble, a lot of anguish and stress or sadness? Do you find that a lot? Do you find that a lot?

or do you find people that are just pleasantly happy with all that stuff? I find both. And this is, I think one of the greatest blessings that I've had is that I've lived amongst the extremely poverty stricken and I've also lived among the 1% and everything in between. And what I can tell you is that you find the same struggles emotionally, mentally and spiritually, whether somebody has a lot or a little on the physical realm. And it does come down to, again, the mental, emotional and spiritual fulfillment while you're trying to achieve the things. It's a blessing and it's a tremendous privilege to have resources, you know, to have things, to be able to feed your family, to be able to live in a comfortable home. It's a big privilege, absolutely. However, you know, there was one friend that

used to say, for example, with alcoholics, they used to say, well, if you take an alcoholic who's a jerk and get him sober, he's just a sober alcohol. He's not really going to, you know, be much better. And I think ultimately when you achieve a certain level of success, all that has to be a happens is that your true colors show just because it becomes easier because you, you know, don't have to give too many explanations or work for someone else. That's all. But ultimately, who we are at our core and the fulfillment is not really going to change so much with the material things. It may help, for example, to get the help that we need. You know, you may have more resources to get the therapies you need to get the help you need. You know, we have a big

homeless population in Los Angeles. And a lot of that. comes from people with very limited resources that have mental health issues, for example, and they just don't have the resources, right? But the physical resources, the money, the property, the prestige, these things, they're just one very small part of what can make a person whole or unwhole. And really, the fulfillment, it's when you're looking for the fulfillment in those things that the problem comes. Because if you were unhappy before you had them and you didn't do any spiritual, mental, or emotional work, you're going to be just as unfulfilled when you have the material things. And it's also, again, coming back to that purpose and really a little bit of

humility of knowing that anything we have, including just that one more day, is a big privilege, and it's a big blessing. And when people come from a place of how may I serve versus what can I get, whether you are working at the gas station or the CEO of a big company or the president, everything changes. Because when you know that you're doing your calling, when you know that you're making a difference in people's lives and that your purposes to help people, it doesn't really matter what material things you have. You will always be at peace mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

See, that humility is a big one. And I don't think a lot of people know what that means because it's not just being humble. being accountable to being able to admit when you're wrong being able to accept certain things that are going on for what they are not thinking you can buy everything out or figure out everything on your own i stop trying to be in control and figure everything out of my own you know and try to but you know i just ask god for help anymore and i'm like okay just please help me i'm not trying to do this anymore i always like to be in control of situations meaning i don't i like to handle things myself right but in real life stuff

where you need help, I just ask anymore. And I think once you get to that level, things do become easier to deal with and to handle the stresses and everyday life type of stress. I'm curious about mindsets of people from different ilks on what they're going through and how much stress they actually endure on a daily basis is the person with 75 million things going on more stressed, even though they got a lot of shit, or the person that has nothing but is suffering because they're, you know, they're just underprivileged. What do you find to be the more, I hate to say problematic for you to work with, but the one that you see has the most problems?

That's a really good question. And I can tell you that stress in the body is stress. The stress in your body doesn't know how much money you have in the bank. Right. The stress in your body doesn't know what kind of house you live in, what kind of car you drive, if you're famous, if you're not famous. And really, it's about the thought processes, right? So this is the main thing that I like to work on, whether I'm working with someone high profile or a doctor or their staff or clients, patients that we share.

We always work on the thought processes first. Because, for example, if you are really struggling, if you're underprivileged, and if your thought processes are of anger and resentment at your situation, you're stealing those thought processes from thinking about, well, what can I do to make my life better? Right. What's one little thing I can change today that might get me out of this situation? And that has a different effect on the stress in your body,

on your cortisol levels, right? You know that stress causes high cortisol, and it does all kinds of damage to your body. Right. But hope and having a desire and having wishes in your heart, raises your serotonin, raises your dopamine. You know, and so one of the things we have to do as human beings is brainwash ourselves. Right.

The same applies to if you're a high-profile person. You're going to have a lot of people that love you and a lot of people that hate you. Yeah. Right? And you can't control either one. You cannot make people like you and you cannot make them dislike you. It really, you can't ultimately. You could be Mother Teresa and,

there's some people that actually don't like Mother Teresa. This is Mother Teresa, right? Because maybe she had certain, you know, opinions on things. So what can one do? Again, it's the thought processes and going back to that, having some hopefulness in our heart and having a desire to do something in this life to serve humanity. One of the things that Maslow taught is that in order to achieve the high,

highest level as a human being is to be independent of the good opinion of others, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's one is that we must be independent of the good opinion of others because we will never, ever be able to control what anybody thinks about anything. So the only one we can start to control is ourselves. What do we think about our situation? What do we think about ourselves? And the same thing, right?

You have people coming at you all day. if you're very well known, people hating on you. And now it's all over the internet and all over the media. That's a lot to deal with. So this is why we have to work on the thought processes and on having a purpose so that you can always anchor back to that purpose, to those thought processes. And it is a tremendous advantage if you do have a spiritual life. Yeah.

If you do have someone that you pray to, if you do light a candle, if you do believe, believe in something greater than just this physical realm. Most people that have that, they do just far better in life. Oh yeah, 100%. You know, I've been doing, I started doing YouTube in 2011, and I've faced a lot of, a lot of things that most people would just completely crumble, things that were said to me. And I didn't handle it super great. Either I would be a little combative and say some things. And, you know, my, my wife and my, she would see things. And I know, know it upset her and I never wanted my stepkids to see things or anything like that because it's just terrible you know but I got to the point where I said to myself who am I trying to impress and what

purpose does it do when I wake up in the morning do I think about somebody that made a comment about something I had like the shoe collection I had in the background and if they did who cares or if they said something bad about the way I looked or whatever I mean someone the other day just did it was you know I showed her I said well what did they they talking about. Am I missing something? Because they were talking about all this stuff I had on my face and I just had microneedling done, right? And they were saying I was doing this and that. And I was like, huh, I don't care anymore because why would I care? Because as long as people are hearing the verbiage and getting the message, the messenger is simply there to just give it.

You're so right. And guess what? The people that are spending their time zooming in on you. Yeah. To criticize you. You're not the only one they're doing it to. And the truth of the sad matter is that those people are not living a purpose in their life. They're spending their time, their energy, their sacred life energy on criticizing another human being instead of doing something. They're stealing from themselves. They are the biggest thieves in the world. But the thing is, they're not doing anything to you.

No. They're stealing from their own life. They probably have something they'd like to do in life. But instead they're spending time looking at your shoe collection and at your microneedling and whether or not you used a filter and criticizing you. So this is very sad and I don't have a criticism on people that do that. I have compassion for them. I feel terrible for them. I always say I feel I used to make, I used to have something that wasn't very polite to stay back.

But now I wonder if they realize like, what people like me that are comfortable say. Right. I either get a good laugh out of it or I, you know, we, we tend to make fun of them or I feel terrible. Like, because if you spend your free time, and this is what concerns me, because I have very little free time and I've lost, and I can tell you this, I don't want to say I know more than anybody because that's not a fair statement, but I've lost a lot of time.

And if there's one thing you can't get back, you can't buy back, you can't create it back, you can't make it back is time. Once it's gone, it's gone. You can't get it back. It is gone. And so my sadness for people like that is in your free time, whether you have kids, a wife, a family, or you could be doing something to, you know, training wise or educating wise, you're spending your free time actually just looking for people to insult. Terrifyingly sad. And it's time and energy, right? So you said exactly. We only have 24 hours in the day. I don't care who you are. You can't get more so far, right, unless we change the system. But as of right now, we each only get 24 hours every day of this sacred life that is a privilege to live. And everything is time and

energy. And this is why I like people to be very ambitious. Yeah. Ambitious to be the healthiest, the happiest, the kindest, the most compassionate. And with your time, right, to realize that, oh my gosh, like, you'd have no guarantee if you're going to wake up tomorrow. No. You have no guarantee how many days you have left. I don't care if you go see the best psychic in the world and what they say. You have no idea.

And so really valuing our time and energy and realizing that every single day is composed of that sacred time and energy that you get in this blessed life. that you only get one that you're aware of, you know. There may be people that have extraordinary higher states of consciousness that may be able to see many lives, but most of us just get to see this one life. And in those days, those 24 hours are composed of that time and energy. And so what do you want to dedicate that time and energy to? There's so much to do.

I know. one of the things that I've really tried to work on and I'm going to lead this into a question for you. I like to set an example to lead into a question. I love it. So I have taken a lot of pride in being a doer, not a sayer. I despise that. Oh, I'm going to do this or I'll do this or one day, like one day turns into years and years and years. So I, if there's ever a moment where I say I'm going to do something and I don't, A, I'm

I'm the first one to admit, like, I'm so sorry and I don't try to hide it. Because a lot of people will say stuff and they disappear and they never say and they act like it never happened. Right. But I try with every, even the smallest, littlest thing, it will eat me alive if I can't do what I say I'm going to do. And I think that that is like, I call it the lost art of accountability. And it is prevalent everywhere. And I find that the people that aren't accountable or that talk a lot and don't do a lot are the most unhealthy. So I'm curious your thoughts on why do you think people do that talking so much without doing?

Is it like they like to hear themselves talk? They create a facade to make themselves feel better. And do you find that their level of health, mental and physical is worse than it should be? It stems from that coming to the world and to life to see what's in it for you. It really does. When people are saying, I'm going to do this. I'll connect you here. I'll do that.

Many times, you know, they're trying to make that connection thinking that maybe if they tell you that, maybe you're going to do something for them first. In the meantime, while they get there. I've seen that a lot with people that are, you know, trying to network and do things like this. But the key here is that there's an emptiness, right? And they're finding superficial ways to connect with other people. Okay. Versus, again, if you come from a place, if you have a practice, whatever that practice may be, your morning practice, which is really special and important because it sets the tone for our days, for these blessed days that we get to live this life in.

With how may I serve, you know, I ask my clients to really think of three things that they're grateful for in the morning. That's good, yeah. Three desires or intentions that they have just for themselves, just for themselves. the sky's the limit. You can go big there. And then I always say the most important intentions are how may I serve? How may I do something for somebody else today? How can I make someone else's life better today? How can I do something without expecting anything in return? And the way this affects the physical health is that when we come to our days with, how may I serve? Your body, the cells in your body, I say they start to do a little dance. And they start to say, well, I've got this human here

that's strategizing on how to be of service to the world, on how to help other people. So we must be good. And then the cells can relax and do the work that they need to do. But when there's this tightness of, oh my God, I need to figure out how I'm going to get this, how I'm going to do that, how can I, you know, tell this person I'm going to do this to see if they'll do this for me, then your whole body's restricted. Your body's full of stress. Your consciousness is full of stress. And your spirit is suffering

because your spirit's like, hey, we didn't come here to be like sucking on life. We came here to give something. We've got some great work to do. And so, yes, it absolutely affects the physical body. It absolutely affects physical health. And I see this again and again with some of the extraordinary doctors

that I'm blessed to work with that are traveling all over the world, speaking at conferences, you know, every week, internationally. And I work with them and I see them in person. And they have tremendous stamina. And they do walk the talk and they are very healthy. But guess what drives them? They really want to help people.

They're here to serve humanity. They really want to help people heal. They are truly coming from a place of extreme generosity. And, you know, I cannot say names, but I can tell you that I know doctors that will travel anywhere to help someone, even if they're not getting paid. And these are doctors that are, you know, concierge doctors that get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Yeah. They don't tell about that work that they do. Yeah, they're not posting a facade on there to make their life look so expansive. And that's, you know, that's stuff that I pull from the Bible.

It was like, don't, don't try to pray in front of everybody so everybody sees it. Do it in private and do it the way it's supposed to be. And that's the type of things that some people do in some people don't. And I think some of the best work is the stuff, me and anybody else doesn't see. You know, like, here's an example. You said the morning routine. And I am like the most regimented routine got on the planet. And I have been for, I mean, my dad was that way. But then when I went to prison, that was like your whole life was a routine. That was what you lived on. It's what you had. And I still carried that with me. And so now my morning walk, We talk about the sunlight and the steps.

But you know what else is nice for me is I walk by so many people in one small smile. I can see the effect of me because, you know, people walk on those paths and they look down or they're on their phones or they just don't look at you. I make everybody look at me to say hi. And I saw it. Yeah, and I see. Well, and I'll tell you where I got that from. My mom raised me that way, but it was something like I learned in my readings and then the priest had talked about it. And it was like, don't put your head down.

Look at people. Smile at them because you don't know the type of suffering. One person in that one look could maybe save somebody's life or make their day. So I just make everybody look at me. And I turn and look at them. And it's just to say hello and good morning. And that's it. And some people, I think it catches them off guard and whatever.

But those little things, they make me, they make my soul feel good in the morning. Because some of those mornings are stressful and I don't feel great when I go walk. because I know I got a slew of stuff to do. And stuff like that, it makes me feel way better. And it doesn't take anything. I always say treat everybody as if your life depends on them. If your life depends on how you treated them. And if we each come to our day treating each human being as if, hey, if I don't smile at this guy,

he could have a say. You don't know. He might be the doctor that's there when you're at the hospital or the nurse. But more importantly, what you were saying, absolutely, you know, you never know like where someone's rushing to, you know, why they look mad. And your smile, even if they didn't smile back, restores a little bit of faith and humanity in them. And they could be on their way to kill themselves. Yeah. I've literally had people on their way to kill themselves and say, you know what? This woman just smiled at me.

and it just gave me a little bit of hope. And they hung on one more day. You know, so I thank you that you do that. And I love that you do that because it's so important. If we each say, I'm just going to smile at people. You know, you really can change someone's life and you can really save somebody's life. And you know what? All of our lives actually do depend on each other.

They do. They do. And you don't even realize it a lot of the times. One time me and Queenie were at, I think we were at Macy's. And I saw this woman buying all kinds of petting. And I was like, I asked her, I said, how the hell

is she going to take all that to her car? I said, don't I just go ask if she wants help. I don't want her to think I'm a weirdo. But at the same hand, so I carried all her stuff to the car. It took me like 10 extra minutes out of my day. And the woman thanked me like 30 times over. You know, and stuff like that, that if you just do stuff like

that, I mean, it's easy. And it makes you feel good. Yes. And I think that that makes people healthier. It absolutely does. It actually raises your serotonin, their serotonin, and anyone else who's witnessing it. Everybody feels better. Yeah. You know, just like when you see a movie that makes you cry because it's beautiful and touching, it's the same thing. When we see and experience one human being being kind to another human being, not only are they affected by it positively, physiologically, but anyone witnessing it also gets a little boost, gets a vibration boost,

gets a health boost. It's like getting a little IV of NAD. Well, and so here, I have some other questions for you that are more on the nutrition side, because I'm curious about this. I haven't really discussed this very much now that I think about it, and this is why these conversations are good and why no one should ever script anything, because then these things come up. I am curious, diet-wise, are there certain types of diets that you find to be better for the mind

that correlate more with a healthier mind? And once again, I do realize that everybody has different needs, necessities, and conditions that they may or may not have, allergies, etc. But is there a diet structure or style or certain kind of foods that you find

that are happier foods, you know, that treat the mind? a little bit better. One of the doctors that I absolutely love is Dale Bredesen. Yeah. And I go to some conferences where he speaks and there's other professionals just like him. And their main goal is really brain optimization, preventing cognitive decline, preventing Alzheimer's, dementia.

And, you know, they really do give a specific type of diet to patients that see early signs of cognitive decline. And it, it, they have the studies and it has. been proven over and over again that when they do move into a ketogenic diet for those type of ailments, it definitely moves a needle, including for children like with autism, with ADD, with schizophrenia. They do see a lot of improvements there. Now, I am not an advocate for one specific type of diet because we are all different. And, you know, I do know some vegetarians that do well. Most people overall, though, because of the environment that we're all going to

growing up in because most people are going to eat packaged food at some point. They are going to have toxic food and seed oils at some point. And most people, you know, if you're over 30, you probably didn't grow up on fully organic food. So you already have some of those repercussions of a bad diet per se or a toxic diet. You know, most people do very well with whole foods, with organic foods, when they're able to eliminate processed food. When you eliminate processed food, oh my gosh, you've eliminated so much just by doing that. But absolutely, you know, people with depression, for example, one of the things they start doing is eating more and more sugar.

Yeah. And that just feeds that cycle, that chemical cycle in their brain, and they get more and more depressed. And they get that little dopamine hit just like cocaine, except it's sugar, and they feel better for 30 minutes. And then they're even more depressed afterwards. Yep. So there's definitely happy foods,

and there's definitely depressive foods. And foods can definitely really make you very depressed, very anxious. You can get migraine headaches right away. Oh, yeah. You know, for myself and the people that I work with, we travel so much. When we're at home, right, we're eating our healthiest food. But sometimes you travel and you can't control absolutely everything. And, you know, you feel those little reactions like, oh, all of a sudden there's this little headache

or why am I moody when I'm usually really even keeled? Right. And it absolutely is, you know, the food. And what's the one thing we can control most of the time is what we put in our mouth. Yeah. Right? Because even the environment, you can't really control the environment. You can't control the air everywhere.

No. Right? No. But what you put in your mouth, that most of the time you can. That's why I always tell people, look, I don't ever, I don't spend your money. I don't do your finances. But I will say this. What you put in your body is the most important of anything.

I implore you. I get it. It's completely backwards, that it's more expensive to eat healthy. It makes zero sense. But we're not here to make sense of things. We have what we have and we have to do what we have to do. So I always tell people, look at your budget.

What is it that you're spending money on that you could push this way and not do that way that you don't need to do and just do the best you can? Because I know not everybody can do it. But do the best you can. There's certain things you absolutely need. to make sure that you're eating properly. Like, you don't want to be eating meats where they're eating on all these grains and this HMO.

That stuff is going right into your body. So whatever an animal eats, you're putting into yourself. And if you're a woman, like pregnant or anything, you're passing that right onto your kid. And I don't think that people understand that I think that's like some facade and it's, it's so true. And then there's things that you can, maybe you don't need to go as organic on, you know, and whatever. But I think that it needs to be stressed that it's not.

just your physical look and your internal blood work appear to it'll just thrash you if you're eating bad. It can be totally depressive. Plus, if you look like shit, you're going to be depressed too. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. It's the greatest investment you can make is what you put into your body and the health that you give yourself. For example, this is really interesting. There are some people that will go spend $2,000 on a bag or shoes, you know, but they don't want to spend. money on organic food or they don't want to spend money on a really top doctor or health coach. They're like, oh, no, no, they're not in my insurance. And I'm like, okay, can you not do like three of the bags this year or, you know, three pairs of shoes or one of the watches and invest that instead

into your health? That's where you get the biggest return, right? Yeah. It's investing in what you consume and what you do for your physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health. It's the greatest investment of all. I agree. So let's do a little shift here because you are privileged to be around some experts that know some stuff about peptides, some stuff about supplements, things like that. I've been doing it a long time. So I'm versed on certain peptides especially that I know are good for the mind, anxiety, stress, things like that. But I also know you can't be reliant on that. You've got to fix some other things first before you start getting into that. So let's just imagine here that we've fixed a lot of the things that we can that would then make somebody able to

to be able to use these and get the most out of them or at least close to the most out of them. I just want to throw that out there. You need to get yourself right in other areas first before you start taking things. They're not magic. But let's just say we're aligned. I feel that all medicine supplements, whether it is natural or it's a pharmaceutical, whether it's a peptide or sacred. I think all medicine is sacred medicine.

And we should use whatever is really going to help us. one, sometimes get over a hump, and then once we're well, optimize, right? Why would we limit ourselves to just being okay? And so let's start with neutropics. I love neutropics. I have seen them change people's lives, you know, turn their brain on, for example. People that really felt hopeless, like they felt, oh, like I can't focus, you know, no matter what I do. You know, suddenly they start using a nicotine patch or they, you know,

chew nicotine gum three times a week or use a lozenge, suddenly their brain is turned on. And maybe they're not going to use it every single day, but it gives them that focus. And that's something that, again, I'm not talking about cigarettes. Yeah. By the way,

and there's a lot of confusion with nicotine and some of these extraordinary doctors that I'm blessed to work with absolutely use nicotine, especially on many of their patients over 50. Yeah. To prevent cognitive decline. They also use it to help with a vagus nerve. They also use it because that's connected sometimes to people that have like sebo and digestive problems.

So they will use a nicotine patch with them. They also use it for travel. Yes. I've heard of that several times. Yes. For the immune system. And if somebody's starting to get sick, they will tell them, hey, get a 7 milligram nicotine patch. And you don't put it on the whole time right away if you're not used to it, but you start with maybe 10 minutes at a time.

And then most of these doctors, including myself, we travel with a nicotine patch, especially for those of us that are always traveling, speaking at conferences, you know, you need something to protect you. Yeah. So those are on the neutropics. And of course, there's other ones that I've, you know, I'm not endorsing it. Everyone's different. But, you know, medaphanal has been tremendous for people with ADD.

Yeah. And a lot of people do better with it than Adderall. Yeah. And, again, a complete life changer. or people that really felt hopeless. Why would we not give them the tools so that they can focus and actually do what they want to do in their life? Oh, yeah.

It's a million-time better option than Adderall, in my opinion. Yes. Oh, yeah, me too. Yeah. And so those are like more on the neutropic side. Sure. And then for the peptide side, I mean, I think I mentioned this to you when we talked on the phone.

I say peptides make life fair. Yeah, right. I agree. That is my opinion on peptides. Yeah. So for example, of course, you can use peptides, and I think most of your audience is aware, for anything from helping you preserve muscle, to build muscle, to resetting your circadian rhythms, to helping with your mitochondria, to helping with your cognition.

And so some of my favorites, if we're still on the kind of neutropic cognition side, is cerebralicin. I think that one is absolutely fantastic. Like I have seen, you know, 70-year-olds that were really showing some signs of cognitive decline to some rounds of cerebral license. And they are like, oh, shoot, my brain is on, you know? Because maybe at that age, some people may not want to do like medaphano, for example. Yeah, right, right. But cerebral license, I have seen just extraordinary success with that for, especially if you're noticing some or people that have like, you know, have had trauma to their head, like athletes that have gotten.

and, you know, some big drama to their head, like football players and things like that, they do extremely well with this as well. Sure. So I love cerebral lison. And then for the fairness part, working out. Yeah. You know people that, you know, they do everything. They're at the gym two hours a day.

You know, they've got the diet dialed in and they just can't build muscle. Yeah. Because everyone's physiology is completely different, right? And some people have, are very blessed and they can easily build muscle. but others cannot. So now when you bring in some peptides, some growth hormone secretagogues, and I have my own favorites, which are Tessamorlin and Ippamorlin. Those are my family.

I laugh because Tessamorland is my ultimate favorite. Me too. Yeah. And, you know, it's a game changer. Suddenly they're not having to spend two hours at the gym Monday through Saturday. Now they're going three times a week and having more balanced in their life. And they're actually starting to build some muscle. Tessalmoreland even helps people with their lipids with fatty liver, for example.

You can do the lab work on them and you will see after six months of using it, if they had a fatty liver, that's going to be really improved. That's right. You know, we've seen that multiple times. And I want to connect the physical wellness and the muscle with also your stamina in life. So physical muscle is so important. You know we have more and more, you know, doctors coming out talking about this, how important muscle is and how important it is for all-cause mortality, the more muscle you have,

the longer you're going to live and the stronger you're going to be. And especially, you know, for women who at a certain age, if they fall down, break a hip, we all know that the statistics are that within a year they can die. Right. So why that's one reason, physiologically, why it's so important. But building physical muscle just makes you feel stronger as a human being. Yeah. Yeah. It's so important. Just, you know, know, if I'm going to the supermarket, if I'm traveling by myself and having to lift my suitcase, just knowing as a human being that I can do these things for myself makes me feel like, okay, I can do life, right?

Oh, yeah. Versus if you feel weak and you feel like you can't lift things, you know, you start to feel weak as a person. I was going to say it has a cognitive effect, too. It's not just a physical effect. Absolutely. It always goes hand in hand. I've been on Jardians for five or six months and it has made.

me weak it's made me lose weight and it's made me feel less and i look at the scale and go oh you know i can i i would say oh i can get away with eating more and da-da-da-da but i feel like so much less and i i had to stop taking it because it was draining my electrolytes i was having heart rhythm issues and i mean just destroying different aspects of me because i'm not diabetic it was used for heart failure or beginning stages of it right and so things like that that can take away and pull away way and then we've got peptide options that can build. I don't think a lot of people truly, truly understand how difficult it is to put on two to three pounds of legit lean muscle and keep it. I'm not talking about eating and gaining weight. I'm talking about lean muscle gain and

holding on to it. It is very difficult. It takes a very structured diet, a very structured structure training regimen, one that is continuously shocking the body. See, a lot of people get it wrong because they don't adapt. You know what I mean? They don't change. They just, and they don't push themselves. And then they say they don't get it. But I get it in five seconds as soon as I analyze, right?

What you said about Tessamorland that I love is it gives you the ability to burn fat and still build lean muscle, which you could do with with Iperulin too, but it's not to the extent of Tessimorland. I was going to ask you two of my favorite. are Selank and CMAX then paired together. They really have a lot of synergy and it's more like the anxiety and the stress relief and the calming effect and everything. I love those two. I do too.

You know, and that's why I wonder what your thoughts were on those. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so many people use them. I use them. You know, I cycle through my peptides throughout the year. I don't do the same ones the entire year. There are some that I keep in place like BPC 157. Yeah, that's a must.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the ones that I absolutely love. that actually one of our favorite people, Dr. Elizabeth Yerth, she's the one who introduced me to that, is TB 500. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Those are peanut butter and jelly. Yes, absolutely. But I use it at a higher dose because of her. Like, I used to do the lowest dose, but some clients of mine were having hair loss. Really? And so one of the things that we started doing is using it at one to two milligrams Monday through Friday for a few months and that totally reverse. The shedding.

If you do a little loading phase with it and then do some maintenance afterwards, but people, you know, once again, bad parroted information and misunderstanding that certain scenarios require a little bit of different utilization. I discovered peptides in 2011 because I was doing underground coaching and discussion and found the research chemical market. And there was like seven or eight you could pick from and that was it. And now there's thousands for everything. Back then, it was just like what you were talking about.

Melanatan 2 and then a bunch of growth hormones to create ox, and that was it. Nothing else to pick up. So what are your thoughts on how it's changed and how it's evolved in the future? Well, we have more chemical compounds now, you know, and that's another division, right? Like the sloop, have you heard of sloop? Oh, 332, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That, you know, used the right way.

I have had some clients that were, you know, like 100 pounds overweight and that in combination with GLP's. But at very low doses, not the high doses that a lot of people were using for a while. I'm talking about 100 micrograms, like very low. A sloop or GLP? Yeah. Yeah, very low dose combined with a no one, BAM 15. You know, you have to run those together too.

And, you know, especially for men, I have seen like real progress because there are some men that have been overweight like their whole life where it's going, well, we will no longer have to have these diseases. Yeah. Like we will not have to have heart disease or obesity. If we're able to incorporate the right diet and the right compounds into our diets, as I think you, I'm sure you know this, but many of the doctors, like they really do prescribe the very microdose gLPs, even for people that are apparently very healthy, just for long

for anti-aging for the prevention of cognitive decline because it reduces the inflammation in the body so much. Yes. And see this this discussion is important because the key here is proper use, the nicotine, the GOPs. They're intended for a specific use and like anything else. You start to abuse it, which you can do with vitamins. You can do. I mean, in a in a more extreme case, you could drink too much water. You could. You could. Right. So everything that we need that's good, you could also abuse it and then something bad could happen. A lot of these things have such benefit, but you start telling people and they freak out and get all angry without understanding the way that you have to use them. You are so right.

And the other thing that I find is that if they know one person who had a bad experience with something, they're like, oh, no, no one should do modafinil or no one should do sloop. It's like, I would say there's something for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. Exactly. Right? That's exactly right. I, I, there's like, like with the Jardians, for example, I am the biggest believer in the world of SGLT2 inhibitors.

I think phenomenal. But right now, it's not agreeing with me personally. I am not going to say one thing bad about it other than there's things that I had to stop and reset and then figure out how am I going to accommodate this if I'm going to take it? Because it's doing this to me, although the benefit here is working because it is, because like ejection fraction went up 6% in a few months, but at what costs? And how can I, how can I try to mitigate this? And if not, then it's just not for me, but I certainly know it works. You know what I mean? And then people do this where I can't stand when the only correlation you have

when you're teaching somebody is what it did to you and not the 75,000 other people that it may have worked for. Exactly. You know, and we have to get out of that trap and that mindset, right? Because that's what it comes down to. Absolutely. It's having curiosity and being open and understanding that, again, there's something for everyone. And also, there's no compound that's evil. There's no prescription that's evil. It really is in how you use it, if it's appropriate for you.

And of course, a lot of factors come into place, right? There's people that say, oh, you know, the GLP's don't work for me. But they get on a GLP and they're still eating McDonald's every day. And, well, no, it's not going to work for you if you do that. Or they say, oh, I did lose a ton of muscle. Well, you know, we know the appropriate way is to make sure that you get enough protein, especially if you're going to use a GLP. And you must do some resistance training to keep your muscle.

And I know plenty of people, including myself, that use GLPs, that have actually gained muscle on microdoses of GLPs because we're using it appropriately. Yes. And I would argue if you can't eat enough with it, then you're probably taken too much. There you go. I mean, that would be one of the first telltale science for me as a coach or a consumer. Okay, let's scale it back. Right.

So I think that there's so much misuse and misunderstanding. And that's why there's so much infighting amongst people in general because everybody's on a one-track mind. Right. As opposed to wrapping their head around, wow, there could be multiple ways or means of opinion or methodology or use. Yes, and you know, you mentioned the mindset of this. This is also very important, whether we're incorporating a peptide or a prescription drug, to really have the thought process and the mindset and set the intention for that sacred medicine and to see it that way, you know, to bless the medicine, to ask whoever you pray to, to ask God,

please, you know, bless this medicine that my body will take it the right way. You know, I know an extraordinary healer that did this for a patient that had cancer. And in the beginning, the doctors didn't want her to be there, but he wanted her there in the waiting room. And after a while, the doctors wanted her there too, just because she was there doing prayers and setting good intentions for everything to go well for the patient. And this changed everything. And so it really matters what our thoughts are about everything that we do. If we go to the gym and say it never works for me, it's not going to. If we take a peptide and we think, oh, this could be dangerous or like with growth hormone

or things like that, oh, that causes cancer. If you think that way, don't do it. Yeah. Like literally just don't do it. But if you can say, you know, the people who created every type of peptide, every type of device that we use for our wellness, every medication, the initial start of that was with a sacred desire to help people heal. Yeah. It had an intention of, let me see if I can help people get rid of obesity.

Let me see if I can help people with fatty liver. Let's see if we can prevent more heart attacks. That was the original intention. And if we can set our intentions on whatever supplement we're going to use, whatever prescription drug we're going to use, whatever peptide and say, you know, this came from a good intention. This is here to heal me. and really, you know, just like some people pray over their food, you know,

and ask for that food to nourish them. If we do that, that really does change it. And I've done that with studies with people on the aura ring, for example. Yeah. Going to bed, if they program themselves with the intention of what, what are they really tracking and what's the goal, right? So many people want to improve the HRV, their REM, their deep sleep. And if they program themselves, even with using some of the devices we use,

like the Apollo, and say, you know, I'm going to use this and it's really going to help me get into this deep sleep. They do see a difference in the morning. Yeah. In the tracking, they see that their ram improved. They see that their HIV improved. But if we just do things without the good intention and the positivity of the possibility of the immense healing that can come from what we're doing, we're missing a really big piece that really changes the game and accelerate the healing process. Oh yeah, you can think negative and just make stuff go bad. Right, you can. You do. I don't want to say you curse it from the start, but in simple terms, you do, you know, and then you set yourself up for failure. I see it all the time. I used to do it too,

you know, and I really try to never do that anymore and just think everything's going to go great. So, well, I guess we flew through that. But that was really, I think we touched on a lot of great things and hopefully talked about some things you don't normally talk about so people can see more versatility in what you do as well. That's why I like these. We did. Yeah, I like to, I don't, I talked to people before, as you know, but it's only to build a little relationship.

And I tell everybody the same thing. People send me a script, send me this or that. I say, well, great, thanks. We don't use that shit. Right. You go with the flow. No, that's how you have a successful episode with somebody, because then it's a real conversation.

So thank you for going back and forth with me. Oh, Dylan, thank you so much. And thank you for the work that you're doing, you know, and you're bringing so much light and healing to the world. And it's so needed. And I appreciate your generosity. And more than anything, that you smile at people every day on your walk. That's so beautiful.

I make them do it. Yeah. Well, tell people how they can follow you. You do a lot of speaking if there's ways to interact with you online, and I'll link everything in the description. Yeah. So the best place to find me is on my Instagram, page. I have everything there. I've links there. And usually I will put where I'm speaking next

there. And then people are always welcome to DM me. And I'm happy to answer any questions and help in any way that I can. Awesome. Well, thank you. That was fun. It helped me a little bit mentally too. So thank you. I appreciate it. But I truly believe everybody will benefit from this in a variety of ways. And I think it'll make people smile, laugh and reassess certain things going on our life. That's always the goal is to just sit back, reassess and go, okay, maybe we can fix something somehow and take even the smallest bits and pieces. That's all I care about. That's beautiful. Yeah, we keep planting the little seeds of healing in the world. That's it. So thank you again. I appreciate it. And that wraps up another one, everybody. So stay tuned for

plenty more to come. Dylan Jameli, signing off.