The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 125.) Knicks Parade Recap + World Cup Country Names (6/22/26)

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are discussing the Knicks parade madness, Father's Day, the Iran War, Beyonce's narration of Jay-Z's Hair Journey and so much more! (6/...22/26) Support the show on Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Hello Hello Back in the building After the Father's Day weekend Rosenberg is still Father's Day weekend And what happened to you, man? Oh, okay See?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Now we can't even hear you now That's why this whole operation Every time we want to do this operation I throw a question mark Am I good there? Yes. Now what happened to you this weekend? No, nothing really happened except that the,
Starting point is 00:01:11 ever since we, you guys remember the fateful move when we left the apartment, we didn't like to go back to the old apartment. We moved about an entire houseworths of stuff into the little spot that we have on Long Island. So this place has been, as Mobb Deep once referenced, hell on earth. So we really, the father's day was spent by being a father and working my ass off trying to get this house together.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Got it. Okay. And so you guys are basically using your other house as a storage facility, which is common. I'm no judgment. People do it all the time. Yes, this modest little beach area property that we have out here has turned into a storage facility. But yesterday was a very productive dad. Dad rolled up the sleeves yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We got some things done. Nice. And then was still able to enjoy some time with the fan. How was your father's day, you broke? My father's day was fantastical. Well, this weekend I rode about, I rode three consecutive days totaling about 170 miles. So I was on a bike. Wow, the dream.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I probably rode 10 hours total over that period of time. Damn, you did three days back to back? I did three days back to back, which I normally don't do, so I rested. But Friday was Juneteenth. Shout to the Major Taylor Iron Riders here in New York City and all the major Taylor crews around the country. But we do an annual Juneteenth ride. then Saturday another crew out of Jersey had a black watch ride east house was DJing
Starting point is 00:02:38 was a little parking lot party and and massage therapy and all that on Saturday and then Sunday a buddy of mine just got back from Africa taking some students to Africa so he was kind of out of his cycling training so we all just did like a little super slow motion support the bro early morning situation on Sunday. So it was, you know, a lot of cycling for me. And then a big dinner yesterday, which was amazing. I'll have some, matter of fact, if y'all tune in Friday, I'll throw some photos. We took some amazing pictures.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The restaurant, we go to this restaurant. And if you live in the area, you know the restaurant. It's in Dobbs Ferry. And I don't want to say it because it's already kind of gets popping some time. And I don't want people ruining my little spot. Okay, okay. That's got like some of the best views down to Hudson. And it's easy to get to.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's like, you know, 30 minutes past the G-dub. You can go straight up the west side and hit it. It's super easy to get there. But anyway, we went up there and we hung out. The food's good. We took some photos. You know, it was a great time. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Got a car. They do this thing now in my house where like, you know, for Father's Day and, you know, Issa writes cards. She does these handmade cards and writes, you know, something for everyone. So now the kids. You know, I tear up when I'm reading what Issa, you know, feels about me or our family or whatever. And now the cameras are out in my face. And I told you all, Issa got a phone now.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So she's like, oh, dad's about to cry. Oh, God. I'm like, okay, here we go. No, it's good. I'm glad they get to see me get emotional about, you know, how I feel about what this is. That is a great quality, though, that I'm sure you already have. but to encourage that in Issa, if you already have it, like people who write meaningful cards to people,
Starting point is 00:04:32 like that's the thing, like Mick Foley, the wrestler. Yeah. That's the thing he does. He writes letters to people. Wow. And when people get a letter from someone that's like thoughtful, handwritten,
Starting point is 00:04:43 or whatever it may be, yeah, it's like super impactful. That's like a lovely trait to have. Yeah, I'm going to see if I can get the, I think Jazz has the video. But yeah, it was a Father's Day card where she took the word father and then, you know, the F meant
Starting point is 00:04:56 something and the A was a part of a word and the T was a part of, you know, it was like a whole thing. And then, but then she wrote a whole, you know, she usually writes a good, solid paragraph. She does it to jazz too. Like, she'll write something super heartfelt to jazz. Jazz is tearing up, you know. Issa gets it in. I love that.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You know? So that was Father's Day yesterday. It was a good time. What about you, Laura? You was Father's Day in it. Well, yeah. We took, you know, Ricardo's still fortunate to have his father. Yeah. Oh, wow. So we went to go visit him. And we took them out to a Cuban restaurant. We all kind of hit the park.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's super light, but nice. You know what I mean? Spend some time with grandpa, with Aboito. So, yeah, we had a nice time. It was chill. Me and Aboilito will be getting it in on the Domino's. You know what I mean? That's my copy cool guy right there.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, it was sweet. It was sweet. We had a nice time. Now, Rosembourg, did you see your dad or just FaceTime? Not only did I not see my dad, but when I attempted to FaceTime and with the baby, I failed. So all he got was a video of me and Maya and Natalie. Damn. But me and my dad, I've just, you know, me and my dad have been talking.
Starting point is 00:05:59 We talk too much. I mean, I would argue my dad and I, my dad and I, the other day, we talked for like an hour. And after a while, I was like, all right, dad, this conversation, it's time to put a bow on this thing. Let's. On which common? What do you mean? On what thing? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:06:11 No, there's just too many topics we cover. We go so in depth on. No, it was a really nice call the other day. But we just go, we really, we chat. Well, I think, you know what I'm hearing now? And I didn't know you guys went to, you know, talked in. depth about political topics. I'm assuming Netanyahu and Israel
Starting point is 00:06:30 is always at the top. Iran and the straight of horoose is popping. You know what I mean? Trump's failures. We love the straight of hormones. And the peace deal and the Hezbollahs of it all, southern Lebanon. Now I know why when we get to it on the show, you're over it. Yeah. That's why you guys got to put a bow on it because I can't
Starting point is 00:06:47 we can't cover any topics here without you feeling like, A, you're a know-it-all on the topic because you've been talking about it all all week. I don't think I do that But keep going Yeah, right Sometimes
Starting point is 00:06:58 Well, no, that's why you're ready To get off it Your detour off the conversation We haven't even been Although we just haven't been bringing up That much recently I think that's more Our natural fatigue
Starting point is 00:07:07 Of this being the same thing Over and over and over again Yes, recently it's been Well, because it's been nothing Yeah, it's been nothing It's been like, oh, we got a peace deal Do you? Doubt it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I would say that is the top line Usually top it with my dad But you know, it's family too So there's always You know, re-litigating things that have happened do you know I never do that family I'm out of that I never do that I won't do it unless you're ready to start you guys are adults unless you're ready to let bygones be bygones and move forward don't talk to me because if we've already covered
Starting point is 00:07:43 all the topics and everybody's side of it and you guys don't want to agree to disagree stop talking to me I know I let mom vent a little bit and then I'm like I'm like aye mom and I know I'll suggest a solution and then I was like let's just move on Laura that's what I'm I'm saying. You get the time and listen, a lot of it's reasonable. So I go, yeah, I hear you. And then it's sort of one you go, I've heard you. Yeah. Now if we don't have any solution, what are we doing? But happy father's day to my dad. I'm very, you know, being with you guys and knowing, being close with you both when you lost your dads, I'm particularly grateful to get to have those annoying conversations with my dad. So super, super grateful. So listen, it was a busy weekend, right? So
Starting point is 00:08:22 you have the parade, the New York City parade fallout. How much are we still on that? I think I'm trying to, I can't figure out where everyone's at. I'm still in celebration mode. I'm still excited to see people with Nick's jerseys. I think that continues from here until eternity.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like this was a moment, a sports moment for me and history that I never want to see go away. I'm all the way in. I was not privy to it. and it took a while maybe yesterday to get into my algorithm that people were trying to turn the parade on like conservative news outlets
Starting point is 00:09:02 into like bedlam and chaos. I didn't even see that. So that didn't hit your algorithm at all. No, and I'm kind of happy it didn't. What about you, Rosenberg? A little bit of mess, but usual. So yeah, so anybody that thought it was bedlam and chaos doesn't know shit about New York City.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We'll just leave it at that. That's it. But what I will say that chaos was getting there. Right. The lack of bedlam and chaos was so strong that there are people like myself and nearly Ebro and Laura who weren't even able to get to where they were supposed to go because there was no bedlam in chaos. They shut it down.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And like me being a reasonable person when the cops were like, hey, you can't get through there. And I'm like, but I have the thing. You just go, well, their goal is to keep people alive. So if I can't go through there, I can't go through there. And I didn't. But like I didn't see. I saw,
Starting point is 00:09:56 we all saw the same damn video of the girl fighting on the lamp post. Besides that, I didn't really see a whole lot of bedlam, guys. No, no, I was involved. I was involved and got my 11-year-old daughter involved in some chaos.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Because I encouraged Issa to jump over a barricade, of which I proceeded to jump over the same barricade that other people were jumping over, to get to a location where I was going to be viewing the parade from. And the police had to push me and Issa back. Because you know I took ease out there to specifically see full New York City on tilt. People standing on street signs, people scaling the side of building, standing on awnings, standing on the top of garbage trucks. It was great.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like I had the best time walking through mass amounts of people with my 11-year-old who had never seen anything like that before. Because you go to a lot. I've been to a lot of parades. I've been to all the parades, right? the main reason I wanted to take Issa was so that she could see full-fledged New York City, all walks of life, all different backgrounds, all celebrating something in the moment, like just having a great time. And it was great. And I was in it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I was in the thick of it. I walked through the crowds along the street. I walked through the back streets. I climbed over barricades. I snuck in buildings. I went to the wrong watch part. By the way, I was wondering when we were going to get to the button for the fact that Ibro went to the wrong location Didn't think it was odd that he didn't see one person that he knew at this event
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, how about this? I get in there and I'm texting people. I know I don't have a signal Yeah, that was a problem. I couldn't text anyone. So I'm like, and then I had a spot right in front of a window clear as day And I'm like, am I going to walk away from this spot to go to try to find people? I'm going to just stay right here. Now mind you, every Everyone in there had some badge on. I didn't have a badge on. Nobody bothered me. I ended up meeting some nice people who listened to the show.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I was like, hey, maybe everyone else couldn't get in. Maybe they're all stuck out. By the way, that is realistic. That's realistic to think that. So I just wrote it out. Come to find out. I was on the third floor. Y'all was on the second floor.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Well, I was, Rosenberg wasn't. I made it. I had jumped through barricades. I took my goddaughter who had never experienced anything like that before. Bro, I rode a city back across the bridge. I jumped through barricades. I was in the crowd with people.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know how claustrophobic I am? Thank God I didn't have like a little mini panic attack because everyone was so cool. Like it was so packed but everyone was so cool. And then I got, I was lucky enough. A friend of ours was a police officer escorted us one way. And an angel found me. One of Shell's friends found me.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That is so amazing. And escorted me all the way to the building. Michelle's was working for you. Yes, and I was wearing a shirt because, you know, she's a big Knicks fan, so it was a bunch of photos of her with her Knicks jersey. And her friend, shout out to Michelle. Her name is Michelle also, walked me all the way through, bro. And I see people in the chat.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I saw a bunch of our listeners. It was so dope. That's dope. And then I also, wait, when I got there, Ebro, they told me, yeah, you're in the right building, but wrong entrance. So you can't get in through here. Oh, because there was two sides. They tried to tell me, you got to go around.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I was like, how? How? You see these butts pressed against this window? I can't get out. So finally I was able to maneuver my way up, but it was fun. It was a good time. Now, Rosamber, you ended up getting stuck where? That's all I wanted was to run into someone I knew who could get us in.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Because we basically, Ibro, if you got out on the wrong side on the train, and you know this, and we were on the wrong side of Broadway. Oh, you weren't going to know. So we just could not get across Broadway. And it was a complete rap. And in the most New York, people want to say I'm not a New York or Ibrough. What's more New York than after walking about two miles, hanging out with, NEMS trying to figure out where to go
Starting point is 00:13:50 and then giving up and going to get lunch in Chinatown and watching the whole thing on your cell phone. What's more New York than that? I charted my path a few days early. So I figured out exactly where the building was. I know exactly how I was going to get east of the air. I stayed like I literally went to Jersey
Starting point is 00:14:08 City. Got on the ferry. Came over on the ferry. That way I didn't have to park in Manhattan. Right? And work my way down. Because if you come straight off the bro there's a ferry at brookfield place at the mall it rock walks you right past the uh the 9-11 memorial water pool waterfall thing and boom right into the media the parade yeah yeah yeah and you did all that you still had to you still had to jump a barricade and i still had to jump a barricade listen one of our super chads good morning it's chenicia laura i helped open
Starting point is 00:14:42 the barricade for you i love you wow she gave us five bucks i love you you have you You're so sweet. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. So fire. So the parade was all the way around a good time. Now, Lou, you, or maybe it was you, Rassan, how many times do I have to get the interview of the girl who fought the woman hanging from the street?
Starting point is 00:15:07 To be fair, I didn't see when he sent it. Oh, okay. So that was just a double. Yeah. I thought you guys were trying to reemphasize how much we needed to cover this person. No, no. I just didn't see. I didn't see when he sent it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Got it. All right. So I, I wasn't, it wasn't a big deal to me. Two ladies got into a fight at the, at the parade. I mean, yeah. Why was it such a big deal to everyone? Well, no, people just thought, why was, oh, let's not overthink it.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I think people just loved it because, A, it looked like a straight-up WWE match when she tossed home girl from the thing. Like that was number one, that was wild. But then to go straight into no underwear, ass twerking on the pole, I think was just... It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:50 No, but it got ripped all. Basically, I ripped out of there. Got it. It was just a lot, I think. Right, Laura? It was just a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was very WWE.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And honestly, you should have let her rock, man. That lady was a hater. I felt a little bit of joy when I saw her get tossed. I was like, that's what you get to be a hater. Go ahead, Rassan. Everybody's saying I'm a bully. I'm not a bully. That's not what I do.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm not bullying. No one and let me make this very clear. No one's gonna bully me. What's up gang? It's me traffic light climber Everybody want to know my side of this story. Right. She's got a name now. Oh my god I wanted to take a picture on top of the traffic bank. I don't know the young lady. Doer he wants to be screaming and cussing like oh you a fat black bitch. I said okay but you're my though you're my though you're my though you're mad though you're mad mad though got to a point where she was putting my legs so I came down and you see multiple angles because it's like a million angles out yeah I crashed down I was speaking to her she was talking she admitted to crashing out as y'all seen in a video I was trying to knock my legs dog
Starting point is 00:17:12 you're not about to knock my hands off of it what on the way why what did we just had hello this is the video they wanted to show bro stop it let's ask him no more video choices from you This is what I'm getting good idea to see our whole documentary on the incident. I enjoyed it. I came down a little bit. I had a great time. I was having a good time. I came out here to have a good time.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That's like, oh, I love to have fun. I don't starve with nobody. That's not my speed. That's not what I did. I'm having a great fucking time. It's been 53 years, bro. That's right. Celebrate.
Starting point is 00:17:53 That's it She just wanted to celebrate Seems like a nice enough lady Rassan was really into it Rassan would you like to explain Why you're really into it I mean listen Some people that deserve to get their butt whoops
Starting point is 00:18:06 You know what I'm saying Let's go Rasson So New York fashion She had her assort Well did you go Did you go find the other lady's video Rassan? Maybe she has a video
Starting point is 00:18:16 She dropped with her side of the story No we don't really care about her son See I think it's racial You know it's racial Of course it is. That's what I'm getting to. So wait, we're just trusting this lady because she was like,
Starting point is 00:18:27 nah, she called me this and that and I just want to have fun. My favorite part is when she goes, I don't bully anyone, but nobody's bullying me. I don't know how reliable a witness we're dealing with here, but I don't need to learn any more about this story.
Starting point is 00:18:43 The other lady didn't have, she didn't have enough viral, you know, viral motion to get it gone. And then we saw her. cheap move when when the lady was trying to climb down and she kept trying to push her foot off that was a cheap shot kind that kind of that kind of that kind of validates the uh this what's what does she call herself traffic like traffic like climber that that validates traffic like climber story i can also tell laura is very invested in this she can tell she's in the work well because laura's in laura will throw a bitch from a traffic like not anymore i'm not that person anymore i bro i am calm and zen yeah i'll believe it i'm
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Starting point is 00:21:00 In other parade news, and I know, Laura, you got some rundown stuff coming up. You wanted to cover a few stories today, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm going to cover some special pop-ups that Jay-Z is doing. Yeah. Yes. And then, I mean, I'm sure we're going to talk about the, some people are calling it a commercial.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Some people calling it a mini-doc. but that just dropped narrated by Beyonce, so we'll discuss that. You're welcome. And, you know, I'll let you know who Essence Fest is honoring, which I thought was really sweet. So we'll talk about all that. Now, Mom Dhani's speech at the Knicks parade moved around and around and around and around.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Man. I don't, I paused to make too much about Dolan, right? Because I have zero expectations of it. he's continued to be a bad guy, right? He's continued to be someone who just, the best thing he said was when they got the trophy and he was like, sorry it took so long. Everything else has been a complete, like, why are you talking?
Starting point is 00:22:09 The other day when he was talking about, we're not going to get to the second apron. Like, in other words, he started talking about the money they're not going to spend. Like, why are we doing this? What are we doing? Why are you doing that? Or even like, why would you go jump on a sports talk show
Starting point is 00:22:25 when they were having the watch parties to try to create division between, you know, the fans, the mayor. Like, why are you doing that? I mean, I know the answer. The answer is because you don't like Mom Donnie because you're a billionaire. What a lame. That's the answer.
Starting point is 00:22:43 But I don't know if you're seeing the motion Mom Donnie has out here, bro. You're not paying attention. And that brings us to the speech, which was Mom Donnie's speech was not only just like amazing in the moment, but you know Rankinburg has to weigh in on this. I literally, bro, it was the best I've ever seen a politician talk at a sports related anything in my entire life. Like without a shadow of a doubt. It was so good. Better than Obama's done a couple, right? Obama's had a woman.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Obama's done a couple. But he's never in a moment like that. this never in that kind of moment and the depth that he had like you know and now everyone wants to dig up how big a fan is he they just they're going to keep moving the bar on mom dani so he kills them i talk to people who i know don't who do not like mom dony and they were like yo that speech epic nothing else to say about it he was amazing but the people but the people who don't like him online they had to start moving the bar and now talking about it about oh it's very easy to read a speech written by someone else.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Shut show ass. But by the way, is it? Well, because the president can't do it. Yeah, I'm about to say, first of all, that's called what every politician in the history of the country does. And many don't do it well. So when that's the new bar? Shut up.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Watching people hate, though, you just see clown faces because they're just like looking and digging and trying and everybody's looking at you like, yo, fam, you're a fool. Just say it was good. It was good. Let's watch a clip eight here, Rasson. My fellow New Yorkers, for 53 long years we have watched and we have waited. We have watched from nosebleeds and through gritted teeth on televisions in the windows of electronic stores and from projectors balanced on fire escapes.
Starting point is 00:24:42 We have watched alone in our apartments with our heads and our hands, shoulder to shoulder at bars where the signal flickers, alongside friends and friends and family who we wish more than anything could be here today sharing this moment. For 53 long years we have watched the Knicks and we have waited. We waited as the memory of Willis Reed winning the championship on one leg grew fainter and fainter. We waited as Clyde came up clutch again and again. As John Starks dunked on Jordan and Patrick Ewing dunked on the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:25:18 As Bernard King scored 60. As Charles Oakley pulled every rebound within reach, as Spike got in Reggie Miller's face, as Alan Houston put up a shot against Miami that hung in the air for an eternity, as Larry Johnson gave us the four-point play heard around New York, as Starbury traded threes with Kobe and then sold sneakers every kid could afford. As Nate Robinson stuffed Yao Ming, as the city came alive watching Linsanity.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And as mellow lived every Brooklyn dreams when he came home and made MSG feel like the center of the universe once again. We waited without ever knowing if this day would come and we waited because we knew deep down in our sick suffering hearts that it would. New York City, this team has done it. The New York Knicks are NBA champions. Well, and then he goes on to just make some parallels between, you know, Jalen Brunson and I mean, look, even the way he articulated O.G.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Ananobe's tipping, pause. You know, it was amazing. It was really an amazing speech. And then he proceeds to give the keys to the city to the players. That's right. see that part like it was really like Dolan wouldn't turn his body to you know how you would accept you know they say yeah yeah yeah yeah dolan like kept his shoulder turn my only hope my only hope and I'm probably wrong was that because Dolan was the first one he didn't
Starting point is 00:27:10 understand what the program was that was my only because it seemed like otherwise you're just hanging on to whatever you're hanging on you're even in this moment well and mom donnie's been the guy He went to meet with your buddy Trump. Like he's been the guy reaching across the aisle being a professional to all of these people. I don't understand like why in this particular moment. Now, yes, I can see Mom Donnie and his constituents, voters in New York City, coming for the fact that MSG doesn't pay property taxes. And I can see Dolan being pissed about that and wishing it was going to be different.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But you don't have the people, man I think that's what these billionaires are going to realize in this next 10-year cycle You guys do not you've done everything To use social media to use news media to use all the platforms Pay your way to create narratives that keeps people divided and I think we're entering a cycle at least maybe I'm maybe I'm being Overly hopeful we're entering a cycle where people are willing to really ignore narratives being created on social media platforms and these other things and really try to connect with people in their community. We see it here in New York City. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say that. And correct me if I'm wrong, guys, because I'm a casual. But, and also, like, him inviting Trump was such a selfish move. It was just for him because that's his buddy and ruined the experience of so many fans and so many ticket holders. And I just, and he And they lost that time. You know what I mean? Like I just, I wonder how this White House visit is going to go. So,
Starting point is 00:28:57 well, we'll see if there's an actual White House visit. Well, the players haven't confirmed. That was Dolan confirming. Do, do, um, do owners usually ask the players? Yes. I mean, that's what I thought, right? You, we're told because we're not there. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:13 That generally speaking, when the invite goes out, they ask the coaches and players if it's something they want to do. Remember, this is only in modern, days of course because back in the day it didn't matter you would just go but now that we you know in in post-trump time where our country has slid further and further down the drain now it's not a given people would want to go to the white house because it's not the same it doesn't hold the same meaning that it used to hold in different ways and so we'll see will will this cause a rift between
Starting point is 00:29:44 players and ownership or will players just take it on a chin and pause and go be a up there in the White House and do the dance. You know what I mean? Hit the dancing music. Oh, man. Man. Get up in there and do the dance. And there's levels to dancing, right?
Starting point is 00:30:08 I mean. No, there's definitely there's there's like, you know, full on doing the shuffle and the kid and play kickstep. And then there's just a little ditty. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, then there's just like a little ditty bob. This from, you know, and honestly, it depends on who you are.
Starting point is 00:30:27 If you're Jalen Brunson, do I have to do anything I don't want to do? But if the owner is pressuring you, that's tough. And on the flip side, if you're hoping to stay here forever and you're hoping to sign a max contract next and just this guy's going to be the owner for the rest of your career, is it easier to bite the bullet? go, don't shut, you know, don't be over smiling and just just go. So wait, so you guys are saying, just so we're clear, we're openly saying that my job that I'm paid to do could be in jeopardy or I will not get my due salary and contract. If I don't capitulate and politically move the way the owner of the
Starting point is 00:31:23 business wants me to. That's what you guys are saying. I could see it happening. I can. No, I'm saying you guys think and you guys think that that's that's going to hold up. That's going to legally, if that actually happens, Jalen Brunson says, but that's not what we're talking.
Starting point is 00:31:39 No, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people making decisions about not every, Ebro, not everyone has the DNA in them to have a big political, sociopolitical moment. I'm not saying that. I'm not, I'm not even hanging jailer. I don't know if that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that you guys are saying
Starting point is 00:31:57 that you know. No, we're not saying that. Oh. I'm just simply saying maybe in your mind you go, is the juice worth to squeeze or things have been good. We want to keep our team just moving forward. Let's go shake hands. And afterwards on my podcast, I can talk about the overall experience. And I'm not going to be glowing about it. But I'll say, hey, I did what I had to do. That's what we want to do. So in today's America, we don't have the space to say, hey, the individual you're asking me to visit has openly offended and disrespected my culture and my people by erasing things from slave memorials, museums, Muslim bands. I hear you. You know. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:32:50 We keep running down the list of things that, you know. offended potentially offended me as a person and I don't think it's appropriate and goes against my beliefs to go meet with this person I hear you but I don't know though but I feel like he would be like I need you guys to go and support me in the team I could see him laying it on thick and kind of pushing them to go I'm just asking the questions I'm just presenting the question I hope because I want to make sure it's documented that we know where we're at at a time where the owner of a sports franchise can hang over players' heads, their jobs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:27 If they don't show up to a place for politics and photo-out. Jalen Brunton. I'm not, I took Jalen Brunce's name out of it. Say it's not Jalen. Whoever, pick a person. Okay, if you were a role player who was barely on the team, that's the same as anything else in life. We can't act like this isn't how it is, he broke.
Starting point is 00:33:47 If you're not in a position of power and you do something that irritates the person who runs the company, you're expendable. And that honestly goes beyond the politics of it. So that's, that's. And look, in my, in my, yes, in my experience, A, we just got pushed out of a position and fired because of our, because of what we wouldn't capitol or specifically me, I wouldn't align with, right? And wasn't okay with.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Right. So that, that actually happened, right? And people will hear more. Allegedly, perhaps. No, it happened. It happened. It happened. We were all on the boat.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And then in other circumstances I've been in where there may be someone showing up or we're in meetings where it's more about a political thing. It's not an actual business conversation. We're not just talking about business. This is a photo op. This is a promo opportunity, right? And I've had an issue with it. I've been told I don't have to go. I can excuse myself.
Starting point is 00:34:52 No, you don't have to be there. So that's been my experience where I've communicated to people and said, hey, this is, I can't be in a photo with these. I don't agree with this. I also think that everybody has different relationships with their companies. You know what I mean? Maybe you're in a position that is completely different than others. I know that I've had friends that didn't want to do certain things.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm not talking about politically, but they didn't want to do certain things and they kind of felt forced to. Yeah. So we don't know. Like we don't know their position, but I just wanted to put it out there. It's a great discussion. I want to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Major players have skipped it before, so they definitely could. But back to the beginning of it, we shouldn't even be talking about this, but we are because people felt the need to speak within two days of winning when they didn't have to.
Starting point is 00:35:44 They could have just let the celebration be the only conversation. Yep, yep. like that's crazy to me like this was this was so fun i heard other people on sports talk radio oh i wonder if they'll get rid of landry sham it i wonder if yo guys this is why people hate sports talk people can you not speculate on who's not really needed and who might be gone within two days of them bringing the ultimate joy to this fan base that's just so corny to me like let them celebrate bro listen i want the celebration continue to the summer i love it i mean i love it
Starting point is 00:36:19 I went to the NBA store. I was out again. That's how outside I am. I went out Thursday night. I was outside. You know what it takes to get me outside? What does that say about what the city is going? I saw you, though.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You're a sports fan, though. You're in for a sports moment. If it's a music moment, 50-50. If it's underground hip-hop moment, 75-plus. If it's a mainstream hip-hop moment, depending on the artist. Sports, though, a big New York... sports moment, Rangers. You've been at a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Are you out of your money? You'll go to, you've been at Rangers parade and party. Yeah, but he'll go to like a sports event, but he was at actual party. No, I was at a club at 1.30 in the morning. Yes. You think I've,
Starting point is 00:37:05 you think the Rangers win? Who was there? I'm going to go listening to I'm going to go to listen to Sweet Caroline at 1.30 in the morning. No, not 1.30 in the morning, but I mean, hell, you're not even a Rangers fan. That was my point. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I'm not going to. I'm not going to a Yankee parade. I'm not going to a Ranger, but this was the only New York team. I'm not going to a giant parade, that's for sure. So this was the only one I would ever do. Maybe Liberty, that would be fun. But only if Allie was there.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I mean. You know, but you know, it's been a, that's what I'm saying. It's so infectious that I just can't help but want to be near it. It's that good a vibe. Yeah, I'm all about it. I'm really happy for everybody. And shout to the Knicks fans one more time. Hopefully you're still feeling love.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And I also want to reflect back on something we were talking about how this was going to feel to the rest of the world Because when a New York team, specifically a team like the Knicks, wins a chip. I mean, have you guys seen anything bigger than this in sports? Anything bigger than this? When was the last time there was something bigger than this in sports, period?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Period. That's a great. It's a, it's like, it's a great question. Bigger than this. LeBron winning in 16 was not bigger than this. None of the Warriors titles was bigger. The Raptors winning was not bigger. So I can't think of the basketball thing of recent that was bigger.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Hockey, no disrespect. America doesn't care. So was there a football thing that was bigger? God, I don't remember. Are we too close to it? I would need an out of town or to talk. tell us, like, are we missing it? Because to us, this feels
Starting point is 00:38:54 like the biggest thing in decades. When the Eagles won Super Bowl, what was that Super Bowl? They won. The first one? In 2017? Yeah. That's not bigger nationally, though. That's still not bigger nationally. It's not, right? I don't think so. I can't think of it. I would love for, I'll tell you one thing. The only thing that could eclipse it would be this summer if
Starting point is 00:39:18 the soccer team went to, like, the semis. And that could be the only thing. Yeah, because the USA men's team for the first time in World Cup history has won two games back to back, and people are starting to pop about that. Two games back to back. That's how terrible has been. And yeah, and then they'll have to win because they expanded the field and how many people get through. They play a game Thursday, which the name of the team they're playing, we need to discuss.
Starting point is 00:39:48 But they're playing a game Thursday. Then after that, they'd have to win again to be in the quarters. that's the furthest they've been. They went to the quarters in 94. If they were to win that quarter, then they'd be in the semis for the first time ever. So they got three matches minimum to even see the sniff the semis. But the next one doesn't matter, so it's two.
Starting point is 00:40:08 What's the name of the team on Thursday? The name of the team on Thursday, I believe, is Turkey. And why do you, why do we need to talk about? We need to discuss the name of the team Because it's only being spelled everywhere As Turkey as Turkey as Turkey as Turkey I mean how they spell it I guess so
Starting point is 00:40:36 I don't I didn't know that Did you ever know that? I mean I've seen it spelled that way by people from Turkey or turkey I have never in my life Lord do you know that the real way to spell turkey was Turkey No, no no no when I I saw it, I was like, oh, in my mind, I was like, that's probably the real way. Well, I'll tell you what, I googled. I went to make sure there's not another country. How about that?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Really? I don't know. It's not foreign to you. I'd never seen it in my entire life, not for a second. I mean, listen, it's just like when people are, everyone says Qatar, we're in its cutter. Well, yeah, it's. It's Qatar. Yeah, it's Qatar.
Starting point is 00:41:15 That's how they would say. We would say cutter, which is also spelled. But Laura, it's not the same. because it's spelled the same both ways yeah yeah yeah yeah well it's like when you see coat de vaugh right that's ivory coast i don't i never see that never seen that they have that here they have coat de vaugh they don't have ivory coast i definitely would have been like what is that yeah that's true i'm trying to think what there's in the fewer cabbo verd Bob Verde.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's Cape Verde. Well, that's okay. Now we're getting... But it's different words. I'm just pointing out that there are different words. That's what I'm saying. No, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I just had noticed this one was affecting people more because I guess it popped up in people on the expenses to everyone. She's like, are they playing someplace called Turkey yet? Matter of fact, they are. It's Turkey. It's the same place, people.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Calm down. But shout out to the team USA, man. They have been putting it together. And as we talked about on the show in detail, to have a player, have one of their best players, one of the stars of the team, only beyond the team,
Starting point is 00:42:27 because of birthright citizenship, which is currently under attack by this administration, is a pretty incredible through line. No, I love it for this thing. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I also want to shout out Haiti. Haiti got bounced from the tournament after, you know, two losses. They have, you know, pretty close controversial loss to Morocco. And then, you know, obviously facing Brazil was,
Starting point is 00:42:50 that's not what you want that's not what you want um but yo even making our tournament for Haiti was already a win yeah man that it was super dope making the tournament for Haiti was already a win they couldn't even work out in Haiti they didn't even you know what I mean like they had to make
Starting point is 00:43:06 the tournament with no home base yeah and even like and even after all that having the controversy of their jersey like literally having them change their jersey to remove symbolism that's their actual history right it's like and the and the and the tournament saying it was too their actual history is too political
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Starting point is 00:46:06 It's closed again. Okay. Wait, I thought we were all good. No. Israel said no, we're not all good. And they kept bombing southern Lebanon. And so Iran was like, all right, cool, we'll close the straight-of-a-hormose.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And then I heard Israel threatened to kill negotiators or something. What? That has been their M-O before. Yes, Lou. No, well, what really closed it is when Trump threatened Iran. So either keep it open or I'm going to bomb the shit out of you like never before. And then the negotiators just left. Bro, we're a mess.
Starting point is 00:46:43 We're so embarrassing. Well, listen, it could be worse. It could always be worse, Laura. You could be Israel. It could be worse. We're embarrassing up to a point. and then Israel says, hold my beer. We got this.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Go to clip 10 there, Brescent. You've been accused of being a war criminal. He went to go to several countries in Europe, you're going to get arrested. This is not just mad campus radicalism. This is a feeling around the world. You said it to yourself to us just now. In public opinion around the world,
Starting point is 00:47:13 Israel is doing very poorly, and it's doing very poorly because people see a country that is behaving in a way that is not compatible with being a liberal democracy. And therefore, I think you have a problem. I think that loss of the economy. What struck you from your autobiography was how subtly, and for how long you have understood this. You know that political power comes from public opinion, and you know that you need to win the battle of public opinion, and you're losing it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You've absolutely lost it in Europe, but much more worrying for you, you're losing it in America. Israel is behaving in a way that we think is incompatible with the kind of liberal democracy that we claim. Well, the liberal democracy, the ideas, the values that we cherish. But Prime Minister, it really isn't just extreme radicals. There are huge numbers of people who are concerned about Israel's behavior. Frankly, including people like me. Mm. Frying them up.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It's a brave lady, right there. I know. Shout to that journalist from Britain. And the reason I say she's a brave lady is because people claim when you publicly go against Israel, you end up missing. I mean, there are a lot of people publicly going against Israel, bro. There are more people than ever before in history to her. point. I feel like any reasonable media
Starting point is 00:48:28 at this point is going against Israel. It's not. Some obviously are still playing the car, but a lot of people are going against Israel, bro. And not coming up. Yeah, no. That's true. That's true. Are their bank accounts still working? That doesn't point. Accurate though. Are their bank accounts still working?
Starting point is 00:48:44 Their credit cards still working? I don't know. Have you tried to travel? I wouldn't. But yeah. I mean, it's because here's the thing. As bad as bad as the U.S. has been in all of this. Israel looks absolutely insane. I mean, the, and, and by the way, it's mostly supported by the public.
Starting point is 00:49:05 At least here in the U.S., we can say 50% of the public here against this, maybe more. It looks like maybe even more. It may be closer to 60% or against everything we're doing. That's not the polls in Israel. They people have bought into this hookline and sinker. They've gotten more on board with the bullish time has gone on. Really? So we can't even, we're not even in a place where we were before October 7th where they were trying to arrest Netanyahu.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Well, he still got his case, but I mean, here's the problem. My dad was just telling me this the other day. He was saying that a lot of people feel that if they get Netanyahu out of office on the charges you're talking about, things will get better. But he's like, the people they're going to have behind him are going to be worse. It's not going to be better. They're not going to go elect some true progressive dove. That's not what's happening next. It'll be someone else worse.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And we feel, and this is a serious question. And by we, I mean you and anyone else who actually talks to people in Israel, that the information you're getting about the sentiment of the population is trustworthy. Oh, I mean, it's in a wide variety of polls. It's an overwhelming amount supports the continued destruction of different places. Because when I see a nation, when I see a nation, when I see. see a nation moving like Israel is moving and they and they try to say the sentiment of the nation I generally don't take it on face value because if a nation is moving like that on the world stage
Starting point is 00:50:43 how are they moving in the local streets yeah it's hard for me to believe that anyone who opposes this has the ability to speak up or say anything like I don't I don't think they can well I mean all you can say, it's not, God, I don't want to be put in the position of saying Israel does anything good because that would feel at this moment not good. But I think people still have a voice that they're allowed to use. I mean, on social media, in polls, I don't think people fear for their life
Starting point is 00:51:11 if they say that they're not in favor of what's going on. Well, I saw an opinion piece in Ha'Ritz that was, to your point, that I put up in my stories about, you know, the state of Israel, and the war crimes of Netanyahu and the fact that this is just a terrible thing and how they've been... But the article did speak on
Starting point is 00:51:33 how people are being treated locally. And the fear mongering going on. Well, by the way, that is a real thing. My point is this. You obviously know people, Ebro, as do I. Who live in Israel, are Israelis, and are 1,000% against everything and their hearts are broken
Starting point is 00:51:53 by what has happened. The problem is, and this happened here post 9-11, that's what made October 7th such a terrible and effective thing for changing people's mindset. On 9-11, you guys don't remember? There were people I knew who post-9-11 had never been in favor of anything Bush did,
Starting point is 00:52:17 anything Republicans did. They had never been in favor of war, and they were like, whatever we got to do, we got to do it that that's what happens after these events so i'm not surprised to see that a couple years later people have still been deeply affected by october seven this is what happens yeah and then once people get down that path and they're you know brought into communities where that's the sentiment and they're you know their feelings are validated and run unchecked you're just stuck in that bubble for a while we see how
Starting point is 00:52:52 happen all the time you see it happen here in the united states with people who were like you know raised in a specific community in their you know they were in the echo chamber and they thought everyone agreed when they were presented with new information from another side or educated on uh the the macro view of things and understanding they tend to they might shift but there's some people who go all the way down there like your man michael rapporte oh boy he's not Israeli just to be clear he's just an asshole now i don't I don't need the Michael Rapaport face on my screen, Rassan. Talking about Mom, Donnie.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I don't need it. Rosenberg sent that in. I think Rosenberg wanted to. But I don't need to see his face. I mean, we don't have pure audio. I can't stand his face. And the way, I haven't liked his face on social media since he started doing social media. I didn't say anything because, you know, he was a guy I once knew.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But now. But now. But then. you didn't hate what he had to say every time then you just didn't want to see his face. I didn't want to see his face looking up at his screaming up. He screams up at his camera all the time. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Now he's going after Mom Donnie because what? Exactly. Rosembourg? What was it? He thought that his speech was him stealing the glory from the Knicks. And he talked longer than more than
Starting point is 00:54:21 everybody else combined, including Alicia Keys and blah, blah, blah. He was faking it. He tried to dump on Mom Dani's speech. It was even for someone who just hates Mom Dani is an Islamophob and a piece of garbage, as MapRour has proven himself to be. It was such a reach. It looked so bad.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It was so bad. But that's what he is now. He has decided to make his brand terrible, terrible takes. Well, and to the thing I was pointing out earlier, he started to be rewarded for this. Right? like he's you know he looks at his comments he's getting flown out to israel and hanging in those spaces i'm sure he's probably been able to access a couple of dollars maybe some sponsors and things i guess because when i you know in my algorithm they're all chewing them up well i don't
Starting point is 00:55:13 see him until you guys sent this that's a good thing about my algorithm i don't even see him in yeah it made it through to me lorra you're you ready for the run to me law are you ready for the run down let's do it laura got the run down turn that up screens on glow lines heavy but we still cut right
Starting point is 00:55:36 it will go Beyonce dropped something a couple moments ago she narrated Jay Z's hair journey from locks to his Afro and I watched the entire thing even though yes
Starting point is 00:55:50 it's definitely you know promoting sacred the products because that's the products that they used in his hair journey. I thought it was really beautiful. And sidebar, they own it. Right. Like, why would they? Why wouldn't they? This is just a sacred. Yes, we own it. And we would love to show you how great is hair. I mean, listen, I've used the products. Great products. There you go. Yeah, they're for everyone. I need a sacred pack. I'm going to order some.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I mean, guys, guys, please. I watch the whole video. I can't have you all do a commercial too. I just watch the commercial. Well, listen, you don't have a hair journey. Have you tried it? You've never been on a hair journey. No one in your house is on a hair journey. So just fall back. Yeah, and I've actually tried. Stop, stop, stop. I loved this damn video. I loved it. I was super into the hair part.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Then it started, but then when she started getting into the specifics and she's like, and then what product I really enjoyed was the hair smoother. And then it would like close up on the product. That was the only part that I was like, all right, we could have just done the. Show me his hair smoother. I need somebody's a mild. It's a conditioner. It was like deep conditioning.
Starting point is 00:56:51 No, no. He said it's on a hair drink. I need to know about the hair smoother. No, but it was really. It was really beautiful to see actually what inspired him, like Blue not being comfortable with her hair at five years old. Now he decided to go on this journey to show her like how beautiful it is to celebrate your hair and how he chose to honor his father by picking out his locks.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And because his dad used to wear a fro. So he wanted to lean into that and represent that. And it was really cool because if you watch the entire video, there's clips all over social media. The video actually gives a lot of props to the block technicians, everybody involved because people are trying to, people are only using the shots of Beyonce doing it, but they're, and they're like, I don't believe this. Well, watch the entire video. It shows everything. This is, and by the way, this is not the entire video. Yeah. This is just a clip. This is a clip.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Rock these steps. Everyone wants to know the details of Jay's hair transformation. Jay told me a few months ago he was planning on combing out his locks for the Philly show with the roots. He wanted to do this in honor of his father. His name was Adnis Reeves, and his favorite sports team was from Philly. His dad used to rock a fro, so he wanted to rock a fro in his honor. First lock. Now, I wasn't all the way convinced that he would be able to comb out his locks, considering he had such thick, long wicks, and his hair had been locking for over eight years.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I thought it was always beautiful that the real reason Jake grew out his hair was to show Blue that her hair was like his hair. Let me rewind and tell you some backstory. Our daughter was about five, and she wasn't feeling very confident about her hair at that time. When she told her father that, it inspired Jay to grow out his hair. We really wanted her to love and embrace every inch of her gorgeous curls.
Starting point is 00:59:03 It also inspired Blue to be the voice of the award-winning book, Hair Love. by Matthew A. Cherry. As well as songs like Formation, baby hair and afros and brown skin girl. And who would have thunk? All of this healthy hair could grow beyond that low-cut Cesar with a deep wave.
Starting point is 00:59:23 What you doing, Blue? Tangling his hair. Thank you, baby. This is history in the making. The five-year-old Blue had no idea that her father's hair had texture like hers. Beautiful. Beautiful. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:59:38 It's day two of removing Jay's lots. Now Jay took better care of his hair than any person I know. He gets his hair washed religiously. And honestly, it's been one of Sacred's most loyal customers. What you got going over here? I got the Indian in my family. Cherokee. That ain't nothing but no Cherokee.
Starting point is 01:00:03 His hairstylist was Nakia Collins, and I believe that Jay's commitment to consistency was key in nurturing and maintaining the health of his hair using only sacred products for so many years. Very dope. Yeah, it's very dope. Very, very, very dope. And for people, listen, in my house right now, that's going on. Right now where you have multiple hair textures and Issa has a very, a 4C curl and figuring out the products and helping her, you know, learn how to management manage it and also being in schools where other girls don't necessarily have that hair texture and homes where other women don't have that hair texture right um or being around
Starting point is 01:00:51 women who were never taught how to take care of their hair luckily i was raising a family of women that were lacticians and knew how to take care but guess what i don't have right now hair to grow out with isa yeah yeah you know what i mean so that j doing that for his i don't know if y'all understand how if you've never lived that where your look and your hair doesn't really have, you know, doesn't feel like it's exalted like other folks or takes more work than it seems other people's hair takes
Starting point is 01:01:22 to put it in a style or to take care of it or it doesn't grow as fast. If you've never had that experience, especially with your child or somebody you love, you don't know how powerful that video is. Yeah, yeah. Like that right there. And then them being two of the most famous people on planet Earth, that right there is like the elders wildest dreams type shit.
Starting point is 01:01:46 You know what I'm saying? It was a great. It was so it was honest. I'm teasing about the products part, but as the story of the video is amazing. And also I would argue in all seriousness, white people literally, I have been exposed to hair conversation because of my life and the people I work with and have surrounded myself with. the average white person has no understanding of what the hair conversation in a black household even is. Like it's not a small difference. It's a really, it's actually I would say, guys, for all the made up differences that exist between black people and white people,
Starting point is 01:02:21 this is one of the real differences that actually exists that people don't relate on at all to be serious about. Yo, Issa just said to me on just yesterday, she said to me, I don't like one. I get dark in the summer. I was like, what are you talking about? Your skin's beautiful, but people love you. You can't see my features well enough in pictures. This was yesterday. I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And I had to be like, well, you know, you know, when they made the lens on cameras, they weren't thinking about black people in lighting. So, you know, yeah, it, you know, And I had to have, you know, and we have, but fortunately, I've been having these conversations with her about the world that she lives in and the world we all live in and how it adversely affects black folks since I can remember. So it's not like a new convo. It doesn't mean she sees herself. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And can celebrate herself, even though there's celebrations going on all around her all the time. Yeah. And kids and children are so impressionable. and they're just looking to fit in. Because even I've had these conversations, you know, I have bone straight hair. So Kenza looks at me and tells her, you're so pretty, mama.
Starting point is 01:03:46 How come I don't have hair like yours? So I spend time nurturing her and letting her know how beautiful it is and me and her dad sit down and talk about it, but it's a thing. Kids have different feelings and want to fit in. And it's just so important
Starting point is 01:04:02 that we constantly reinforce their beauty. Well, and kind of the, I guess I'll call it. a double whammy, right? But it's not really a double. Most people always want something they don't have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:04:17 And so, like, there's people who are super pale. They want to be able to tan. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then there's people who have straight hair. They want curly hair. Yeah. And people who have curly hair.
Starting point is 01:04:29 They want straight. Like, that's a human thing. I guess I call it a double whammy because now you complicate that in a society. where, you know, people who have straight hair and pale skin in our society here in the United States, they go out and take on hairstyles and things like that and act like it's theirs, or they created it. Or get out here and getting tanning beds
Starting point is 01:04:56 and do all this other stuff to be dark. Meanwhile, they treat the people who actually have those attributes terribly. Yeah. They get bigger lips, bigger asses. They do all this other shit. And literally everything. And then shit on the people
Starting point is 01:05:11 who are naturally born with those attributes. Yeah. I remember guys, not that long ago, women were discriminated because they were wearing braids. Braids. Like there were women that were told,
Starting point is 01:05:25 hey, you can't do that in the workplace. Yes. And people don't realize it just, the Crown Act was, is how old? It's a few years. Not even 10 years. Yeah, it's just a few years old. Or you can't discriminate against
Starting point is 01:05:36 somebody because of their natural hairstyle yeah people forget that yeah so now that video that video is is man i'm so and it was so much noise yo hit the button too on everybody out there congratulations all of y'all that don't believe anything ah jays wearing a wig you can't comb out i remember the problem i was like you can absolutely comb out locks you got to have a lot of conditioner and times apparently do a lot work i mean it took a lot it took days days they say it this is day two day three day five like they go through it now it takes a long time yeah yeah um and most people don't have that time or hell you can't even find somebody to come do your braids nowadays people i yo you know people out here trying to get braids it's it is an epidemic of people trying
Starting point is 01:06:32 bro to get a real good braider now and actually have it be affordable yeah it's expensive bro the women who can actually do braids a I mean good luck getting on their books and getting the schedule B they y'all I remember used to be a few hundred dollars people paying thousand dollars yeah it's really wild it's wild you can go to the African braiding shop but they might tear your edges out tell you whole yo he said got a whole situation right here broke off right here on the thing wearing braids too much trying to grow that back uh what else you got to run out of um speaking of jay though um jay and rock nation just announced
Starting point is 01:07:13 a free public activation so he's doing two uh pop-ups in new york on june 25th celebrating 30 years of reasonable doubt their interactive experiences in dumbo brooklyn and downtown manhattan and it's free for everyone they're um they are going to show archival materials historic moments If it's anything like the Brooklyn Museum pop up, it's going to be awesome. So it's free. You can register at jZ30.com to get the full breakdown and get access. Well, I'm going to take y'all on Wednesday night, Apple Music and the Jay Z squad. We're taking over the Brooklyn joint.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So we have DJs, certain nights. We have DJs mixing in there, parties being thrown in there. So this Wednesday night, we got to go up in there. I love it. That's this Wednesday? That's this Wednesday night. Wow, this is fast. This is all happening the next week.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, we've been cooking up for about a month, though, maybe longer. Two weeks, two months to get to this point. So there's something going on here. I mean, I love a good album celebration 30 years later, but Laura, it feels like there's something going on. There's something going on. Well, what, tell me, what are you guys thinking? It just feels like this is leading to something else besides just celebration.
Starting point is 01:08:28 What I feel? Well, I think, well, the way the, so the one that Apple Music music is doing alongside the squad is uh is um i think it runs all the way up to the shows you know because the shows are a couple weeks away yeah like uh july 10 11 12 right yeah those are the days right yeah so yeah this is like and you know with all the tourism in town and everybody coming to town for the shows i think that was the motivation here right to create a a new york city experience commemorates what Jay Z's done in hip hop and done just as a New Yorker where he's come from and then people when people come to town to visit they have like yeah you can go by these
Starting point is 01:09:09 these kind of installations as well as get over to the Yankee stadium shows listen to bro it's it all sounds great yeah but I also find it interesting I feel like I feel like something's cooking I don't know so let's see let's see I'm with you Rosenberg I feel like something's cooking in the background but we shall see Another news, the Essence Festival of Culture in New Orleans is paying tribute to Alia's life and music and her legacy. So they are celebrating her by doing a 25 years of her self-titled album and the family is all in. Her mother, Diane Hutton and her brother Rashad will be there. So the tribute performance is scheduled to take place Sunday night, Sunday July 5th.
Starting point is 01:09:51 So this should be special for all the fans. Very dope. That's the rundown. The rundown. Intro for the outro. Why don't we just get an outro, man? I mean, listen, it works so well. Up, up, up, up, up, up.
Starting point is 01:10:10 We got time for a guru today? You tell me, you guys are really letting this guru thing fall apart, man. There was a time. There was a time. Come on, Rosemary, let's squeeze one in. I have a short one. Okay, let's do it. Wow, nobody even emails gurus anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Rosenberg. They do. You know you are a beautiful queen. Ebro, don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com. Where the gurus unite to shine the light.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Ebro, burn the sage. All right. Rosenberg. Tell us who's writing to us. Who needs our help? Who needs advice? All right. So many people.
Starting point is 01:10:56 The original gurus at gmail. The Original Gurus at gmail.com. Your destination for clarity. Hey, gurus. First off, no shade, love the show and completely appreciate everything you guys do and put out there to help the culture grow. Fan for life, but please hear me out.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Okay. Gurus, I want to get perspective on how we can better support someone's work. I feel like she's caught between two dynamics. One who's self-focused and another who's outspoken. Demanding a lot of attention due to his role.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I really believe she's being overlooked. She's not being heard enough. I want to be clear. This is not a romantic situation. It's purely friendship. And because of that, I think it would be even more powerful if we simply encouraged her.
Starting point is 01:11:54 She doesn't need to be uplifted, just encourage. so she doesn't feel forced to pick or mediate when she's alone with either one. I think you know who I'm talking about, and I'd love to hear your advice on how we can help her navigate this. She's an amazing person, an incredible mom, a hardworking human, and I think she deserves a platform. Maybe we can give her own segment, call it, a lore with her name on Wednesdays. I look forward to your thoughts, and maybe you can give advice on air. I would have thought that these two gentlemen being surrounded by females would uplift her a lot more than they have.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Even though I'm sure they love her and care for her as a sister, they need to uplift her so their daughters can see how a female should be treated. I look forward to your thoughts and maybe you can discuss this. P.S. I have faith in her and I don't want anyone to think I see her as weak in any way. She's strong and capable. I just think these guys need a reality check. They're great guys. They just need to see. see her. Thanks so much. As a girl dad, yes, I'm team Laura.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Oh, wow. Well, I will say I very much do feel uplifted by you too. You guys have helped me out in several ways in multiple ways. Allure, I don't know about that. You don't want
Starting point is 01:13:19 Wednesdays. Well, why don't we start, can we start, and you know, I appreciate the email as well, but I think this individual is being presumptuous, right? And this is a man that wrote this email? Yes, it's a man. Right. So you, sir, in trying to, I guess, I don't know, somehow check Rosenberg and I,
Starting point is 01:13:43 didn't even ask Laura if she had something more she wanted to do on the program that she wasn't doing. So why don't you start by, you know, and maybe you want to practice this in your own life, all knowledgeable one. Oh my God. No, I appreciate it. You should generally start by saying, hey, was wondering if. So let's start there, Laura. Is there something else you would like to do on this program that you're currently not doing?
Starting point is 01:14:08 No. Or we've stopped you from doing. No, you definitely haven't stopped me from doing. The only thing is, like, you guys are two very strong voices. And sometimes when you guys are, like, very passionate at times, it's very hard to, like, get in. But we've talked about it. And Rosenberg and you have definitely. And I said, hey, we're trying to figure out ways to, you know, like look at you and listen.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And I feel like there's times where I look at Rosenberg and he has definitely stopped and brought me back in. And I feel like you've done it too. But that's really it. You guys, I definitely feel supported on the show. You have a new idea the things that happen, either behind the scenes and during the show. But I will say, I honestly feel very lucky to be part of this team because if I need anything, like, Both of them are pretty much there for me all the time. So I will say that.
Starting point is 01:14:59 But for me, I will do a better job of trying to force myself in there when things get a little, you know, a little too crazy between these two. But I appreciate your email. I think it's very sweet. I feel very cared for by you and the audience. So I just wanted to make sure, you know, I said that. Well, there you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:18 So you, sir, shut the F up. No, no, no. Thank you for the email. Thank you. No, thank you. You know what I mean? No, I mean, listen, we can definitely do a better job making space for Laura. I think we don't even realize when we're in that zone because we're just there.
Starting point is 01:15:37 But Laura and I had this conversation a couple weeks ago, but when you were out, I also told her she does need to push harder too because we are annoying in that way, but you have to like push back or it's just it just can happen naturally. It's certainly not intentional. and I think we're both trying to be better. But why you're trying to give Laura an extra job is my question. But that's why I said, do you even know if she wants to do this work? Like, what are you even talking about? What is a lore with Laura Stiles going to look like? Well, and also, let me hit him with the button for that name.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Congratulations. You played yourself. It sounds like you're attracted to Laura Stiles naming something of Laura anyway. That's really what this is all about. You think you're getting on Laura's good side. She got a man, fall back. Where are you going to go there? Because that's what a lure.
Starting point is 01:16:24 What are you talking about? Like she wants to get up on here and be extra. Why do men always want women to be all sensual and sexy all the time? What is that, bro? He was just going with like a... Nah, bro. Y'all caping for bro. He was trying to have her up here.
Starting point is 01:16:36 You know what I'm saying? With some halter top on, leaning in on the camera talking about allure. You know what I'm saying? He wanted Rassan to install a fan over here so her hair would blow to the side. Shut your bitch ass up. No. Laura, maybe we can call it hot and horny. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:16:56 All right. We're wrapping this up. Sorry, guys. Inside joke. Inside joke, sorry. Inside joke, inside. Hey, bright, you're left. It's up and inside.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Thank you guys. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Subscribe. You know what I mean? Like, share, hike, do all the things. Looted.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We get to those 100,000 subscribers. They're coming. They're coming. You hit this guy with the button, man. We have nine days, bro. We have nine days. Yo, tell somebody to subscribe. If we reach 100,000 followers by July 1st,
Starting point is 01:17:29 I'm giving away. Don't do it. Wait, what are you doing right now? I'm giving away $100. Which I thought I was going to go with $100,000. I thought you were going to get crazy. Hell, I ain't got a hundred thousand give away. Not right now.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Maybe that was last year. Anyway, swipe the chat. Swipe it and hit that like button. Yo, can we even give away cash on him? Because I give away $10,000. If y'all can help us get to $100,000, I give away $10,000. For sure. We're working on it.
Starting point is 01:18:07 So we can't even do it yet. Producer Graham? Well, let me tell you who I'm not listening to. Rassan and Louie. Rassan's like, yeah, of course. You just give away money. Really? Wait, you do what?
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