The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 147.) Ebro, Tony, & Rosenberg Talk Rap Nerd Ish + Sketch Comedy (7/23/26)

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

Today on Ebro, Tony, and Rosenberg - Ebro, comedian Tony Baker, and Rosenberg are discussing our rap journey, remembering Doggystyle, missing sketch comedy shows, first viral moment, rap nerd stuff, Lil Wayne's last album, Pastors acting out of pocket and so much more! (7/23/26) Hear more of the show on Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Ebro, Laura Rosenberg. It's really Ebro-Toni and Rosenberg today. Yeah, well, Laura's definitively not here. That's right.

So it's Ebro Tony Rosenberg show. Are you good with us putting your name in the... That's fine? Yeah. Don't be in there. Really? Well, I could be Laura. We call you Laura for the show. Tora. Call me Tora.

We got Tora in the house. I'm a Taurus anyway. It's kind of closed. Oh, there you go. I like Tony Baker already. Just in the few minutes he's been here since we've just been chatting. I didn't realize the level of rap nerd. I'm a rap nerd. No, I didn't know the extent we were talking about.

Old school rap. I think that's one of the reasons he agreed to come up here because we're not that funny. He's funny. But he was like, but they're like, no hip hop so I'm gonna come up there yeah yeah no I didn't know I didn't know the extent to which you were man that was once like you know I'm the youngest of three boys so I was pretty much listening to what they were listening to then when I got into my own hip hop love it was just what were they listening to uh my middle brother Scott he was listening to everything from anthrax

dead Kennedys to BC boys ice cube uh you know all of it so he had a vibe though yeah he was leaning rock punk But then, you know, his rap, he had audio two. Okay. Be and Raq Kim. So he still had the old school rap. It was everything. Buggy Down.

He was listening to Carol Rash for sure. Yes, for sure. Public enemy for sure. Public enemy, oh, yeah, all the public enemy. So I'm taking in all this. And then, you know, when he moved to Oklahoma, so it was just me. And my oldest brother was, like, in the house music. And then, but he liked Wu-Tang.

Because you're from Chicago. From Chicago. So, yeah, your older brother had to be in the house music. Yeah, oh, yeah, house. He was House McGee. He was House McGee. He was like, yeah. Now that's literally in the origin of house music.

He was there for it. He's 10 years older than me. Oh, he was really there for. They were going out to the club. They were out there. I was at home. And so then when I got my own hip-hop voice, you know, I'm coming in on Tribe,

who my Scott was listening to as well, De La Tried. And then once Wu-Tang hit, that's when I feel like I found my identity. Interesting. And I was a Wu-Tang fanatic. What was the level of Wu-Tang madness in Chicago? Was it a lot?

At this time, though, I was in New Mexico at this time. He moved to New Mexico. I moved to New Mexico because my oldest brother got stationed there in the Air Force. Got it. So were there other woo heads in New Mexico? Yeah, my boy, Lorone, he was listening to it in the car. I got in the car, chess boxing was playing. It was ODB's first.

I was like, what the hell is this? And he was like, Wutan Klan. I was like, what? Because they had the karate movies playing. I grew up on karate movies. I was like, what's happening here? Jacques Cousteau could never get this love. Yeah, I was just like, my head blew off.

I was headless in the car, just the headless horse were just sitting there. And then once I got that, it was like, I need it. So it has to be the Ebro Tony and Roseburg show today. No, he's in. He's in. He's in. His name's in the title. Have you ever watched the, it's been hitting my algorithm a lot recently?

Have you seen the clip of Wu-Tanglin Larry Sanders? No. I haven't seen that. You never seen that? No. You remember Larry Sanders show, right? Yeah, for sure. Gary Shanley.

Yeah. And Jeffrey Tambor is the co-host. Uh-huh. And when he comes out and he comes out. he's like, hey, I like you guys. Wu-Tang, they do the old trope. He goes, I like the song, Shame on an N-word and says it. And they're all like, okay.

I'm like, all right, all right. And Riz's like, ah, yeah, that song's fat. And then he goes, and then he goes, hey, where's dirty old bitch? Oh, wow. And they go, they're like, nah, no, no, old dirty bastard, old dirty bastard. And he's like, oh, they go, yeah, he's locked up right now. Yeah. And he goes, oh, man, cops, those pigs, those cops, I know what it's like.

I got parking tickets up the wazzo. I've seen this clip before. Hold on, but this is my favorite thing. They don't trip. They're all just like, yeah, yeah. And then he goes, all right, guys, have a good show. Yeah. And as he's about to walk away, he goes like this.

All right. And the second he does that, they go, yo, what's up, man? What kind of time you are? That's the offensive. They drew the line. They drew the line at raising the roof. Yeah. They're like, yo, my man.

So there was a New Mexico, Wutan community. For sure. When did you first get to see them? I didn't see them live until like 98, 99. They went to New Mexico State and performed. That was the first concert they ever went to. Really? Yeah.

I quit my job to go to that show. I was working at this little, you couldn't take a vacation day. You couldn't get a feeling. I just started. Oh, okay, okay. So I was like, y'all not go get me off? I quit.

I got to do what I got to do. I quit everything. I was like, I'm out, y'all. You had no problem quitting job. I had zero problem. I'm quitting. It's Wu-Tang, man. Did dirty shirt?

show up or no? No, he wasn't there. Meth wasn't there and dirty wouldn't. Oh, man. So I felt incomplete. Oh, man, come on, man. You can't have both. I, I, you went and begged for your job back? No. I was just like, it was worth the L, man. I got no regrets on this. So, you guys, before we started recording

the day, Tony and Rosenberg was chopping it up about triumph. Well, the Inspector Deck interview, we started there. And then we started talking about triumph and because how big deck was yeah and when you think about abominatomically for sure and then we started we really got into the nuts no i walked in and y'all was nerding out at levels i've never nerded out on triumph before you guys were ranking the verses we want to yeah we want to we want to we want to how many verses is six versus no nine right i think it's nine

here let's um i think it's about nine but some don't have a full verse though yeah it's no no that's right Some are short. Yeah. You got... Last of Killing's just a short. Short, yeah. So do you count those as a verse? I mean, we got to count it.

They showed up. They're on there. And remember, Old Dirty doesn't have a verse. He just says, I rub your ass to the moonshine. Now, I wanted to... I asked deck. I said, the adverbs weren't on the song when you did that. He said, no, he was the first person on it.

Really? So he cut that verse while Rizzo was making the beat. Heard the beat. Rizzo, and you guys go watch the Inspector Deck. conversation on a it's still on Patreon it's on Patreon it's on Patreon and um Inspector Dex said he had a freestyle he had did with Tony Touch okay that he was saying to the beat and Riz was like yeah do that so after after he did it if he played it for everyone else and then everyone else started filling in so I

because I was about to say if because if you were actually trying to rap seriously and you heard old dirty right before you're about to rap say I'll rub your ass to the moonshine how do you pull it together to drop the first yeah so so you have you have you have Dex first. Take it back. That's first. That's one.

That's one. You think deck is one. Yeah. Obamatically, Socrates, philosophies and hypotheses. Can't to find out I'll be dropping these. Lyrically. Lurgery. Lively, they spotted me.

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I twist darts from the heart, tried true. Loop my. He says loot my voice on the LP. I thought he said loop. I thought he said loop. Sometimes they get it wrong on the lyrics. Yeah, they get it wrong. It's loop my voice.

Loop my voice. My lyrics here say loop. Your says loop? This is on Apple. What do you want? Google. It says loop. Yeah, it's loop my voice on the LP,

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Cap is two. You putting cap in a clip? I put it in a clip. But don't forget, we got to get to ghost and Ray at the end. So you just, the saga continues. Wu-Tang.

Wu-Tang. Now, old dirty earned, you know, he didn't do much, but it was effective. His ad-lives were great, though. Why didn't he do a verse, though?

Did they say? I don't know. We didn't ask. I didn't ask, I didn't ask, Deck, and I've never asked Rizzezeze. I don't know if I've, I don't know if I've ever asked Riza.

Really? But it's dirty. He comes and goes. I mean, that's what I kind of feels like. You God crushes it, though, because like you pointed out, the beat change boosts his profile. Olympia torch, flaming. We burn so sweet. The thrill of victory.

The thrill of victory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the whole beat changes there. Yeah, it really takes. That beat change is epic, though. And then, and then Riz is crazy. March of the Wooden Soldier. See, I wouldn't have remembered that.

You remember the words are March of the Wooden Soldiers. See, Cypha, punks couldn't hold it. That's cops, ladies and gentlemen. A thousand men rushing in, not one was sober. Perpendicular to the square. We stand bold like square. You got to say it right.

You didn't say it right. Perpendular like square. Escape from your dragons, Leah. In particular. Jizzah. Now this is where you and I. This is where they sag, man. Liquid Sores is one of the best albums to come out of the wound.

One of the best rap albums, period. Period. But in this. In this moment. You feel like. Giza. It dips. And it's short. They kept Well, when you say dip, what are you saying?

The energy change. What are you saying? Lyrically, it's less exciting than everybody so far. But are you saying that his energy is different? He's just saying overall it's a low. It's a little bit of a, let's take a break. It's like

because you can't keep five minutes straight of so it's frenetic. And here when he goes, war, the masses, the outcomes, disastrous. is. It does chill out. It chills out a little bit. It chills out. It's still fine. It's not a bad verse. And then Master Killa just on starts talking to you.

And then they dips even further. The track renders helpless multiple style. And he's really, so Jaze and Master Killa really kind of talk to you. They bring you in, like, let me have a conversation. Right. The High Chief Jemela Rief takes the stage. No, it's dope. By the way, there's bars in there.

There's bars in there. It's just low key. But then, but Ray Kwan, I'm sorry, Ghostface. Well, you know his name is really Jamela Reefe. I didn't even realize that. Is that fast? I didn't know that. Jamela Rie takes the steak.

The high chief, Jamela Rhee takes the steak. And then, and then ghost face. Yo, fuck that. No, he literally speaks for on behalf of everyone. Yo, hey, oh, fuck that. Let's go back. Yo, and he goes crazy. Hey, yo, fuck that.

Look at all these crab laid back. Yo, wait, hold on. He got at them. It almost sounds like he's getting at them. No, no, he got at them. He got at Jizzah. He said, hey, yo, fuck. that look at all these crab niggas laid back but why would you was just saying it was laid

back he was not talking about his people he's not I don't think he would do that he wouldn't call him crabs I don't think he would do that to do right right right right son no way right Rassan you got Mike what you say I said no way because as Dex said the order wasn't pre-planned yeah we don't know it's a fun thing to say that he says stop being laid back but I'll that's true yeah um and then that verse is crazy I never even correlated that. Me neither, not to this right moment. And then Ray Kwan also responding, it seems, goes,

Hey, oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Gun in your mouth talk, verbal foul hawk, connect thoughts to make my man child walk. Swift notarizer, blue tang, all up in the high riser, New York Yank Viser, word tranquilizer, adjust the dosage, delegate my clan with explosives,

while my pen blowlines ferocious, Mediterranean see y'all the number one draft pick tear the tear down the beat god then delegate the god to see god I don't even know what that means the swift chancellor flex the white gold tarantula track truck diesel played the weed god substantiala max mostly undivided then slide in sickening guaranteed made him jump like Rod Strickland see he ended with something clear and concise oh super easy everybody got that so so so one In that verse, you're like, what the hell is happening? And then he closes it out with that.

Oh, make him jumping like Ryan Strickland. Everybody get that. So you think it's deck one? I might go Rayquan, too. The Ray verse is pretty insane. I don't understand all of it. So I can't give them the... All right.

So who do you want to? You think meth's two? I think meth's two. I understand. But Ray's versus just slanguage, man. Yeah. But that's the magic of it. Well, no, I think Ray and Ghosts are more than slanguage, as you put it.

To me, what they do is, I've always described the way they make rap. or make art is tiny paintings one after another. It's all like two words is something, two words is something. And then they put it all together. You know what I mean? Like, it's not complete thought. Complete thoughts.

It's just like, but it is thoughts, though. Like he is saying things. All of it means something. Did y'all hear about nutmeg? Probably. What about it? Ghost was saying that he was just rhyming. Oh, no, yeah.

I think that was on our show. I think it was on our show. I didn't know that. I was like. He was just, what was he, he was just rhyming. Yeah, he was just rhyming stuff together. I forget what his reasoning was and why he did it like that, but I was like, it was on a different beat or something.

I forget, but he was just rhyming things. All that is nothing, because I love Supreme Clientel. Oh, yeah. And Nuttmeg, I never understood about it. I thought it was slanguage, but I would come to find out. But see, this is rhyming words. You know, look, I know where we live in a time where people rap for all types of different reasons. And even Wu-Tang, like, you know.

you had different, so many characters with so many different style. Right. But there have been characters, and maybe there's still art today, in hip hop, that their whole persona and rhyme style, rap style, MC style, was just art. And it was whatever you want to get from it is what it is. Right. So you think nutmeg was that? I mean, clearly, because he said I was just rhyming stuff.

So if Tony, how old were you at the time? I was like, Supreme Clientail. 24. Yeah, I was a father at that time. Yeah, 24-year-old you? Yeah. Whatever you wanted to mean, that's what it means. Tell me if I'm forgetting.

I loved it, though. I was like, man, this is fire. Tell me if I'm forgetting anything, or is this correct? Okay. And in order we can, it just gets a close. Okay. Deck, meth. Okay.

Capadonna. Okay. Ghostface. Okay. You God. because that beat changed. Yeah, that beat changed. Yeah.

Got to give you got his flowers. Yeah. Ray Kwan. Okay. Master Killa. And then Jizzar. Where's Rizza? Oh, Rizza.

Where would you put Rizzo? I would put him above Master Killa for sure. Above Ray? Not above Ray, though, right? See, Seifold puns couldn't hold. I don't know. It's dope, but yeah. Let's put Rizzer third to last.

Yeah. Even though I really like that Rizzer verse. It is. No, by the way. I like every verse. Every verse on here is fire, folks. Well, that's why you guys get this. Be honest.

That's why you guys get this. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. Because why are you even doing this? Dech Matthew. And why did you guys think this? We like to rank. I like to rank stuff. Well, you and Kev, that's your whole life.

The bread and butter. The top 10 sandwiches. We'll just do anything. It's a great brand. We'll do any list. What's the name of a podcast? Ball, brother. Because y'all ain't got no hair.

Yeah. We balled that. Whoa. I mean, you want to. You want to collab? Spilloff? Join us. Yeah, you want to collab?

Yes, that feels like a big collab. We can definitely collab. Is Kev a big hip-hop fan as well? Now, see, he grew up in the church. Right. So he didn't come to rap until later, later. Oh, so that's why he don't cuss like that. Yeah, so he grew up in the church, church.

And they were, they were like big on, like his mom was tripping like, we're not going to listen to Anita Baker. Right. That's that second one. That's too far. She was listening to Anita Baker on the low. Oh. So that's why he came in a need of baby.

So his rap journey is different than my. Question. Question. Have you ever done a segment with him where you ask him about certain records that he may, like is he caught up? Like could you play him, Akinelli put it in your mouth? Has he ever heard that?

I'm sure he's heard it before. I'm sure he's heard it before. Now, was he at the club? No. I don't know. I don't think so. Absolutely. But what a moment in time now.

I would love to do that with Kev, though. Have you heard, like play him the most vulgar rap that you could find. Ooh. Like straight porn rap. You think he does Nan by a Trick Daddy? He might. He knows Trick Daddy and Trit.

He might. You don't know Nan. He probably know the clean version from the radio. He probably didn't know what was actually being said in the record. He got a hold of a doggy style album

that somebody had. He was listening to that. And you know that's just pure. That's filth. Philth, that's one of my favorite album, but this one of my favorite. Tony Baker likes the filth.

What's your favorite song on Doggy style? Ooh. I like Doggy Dog World I would always run that one back I love actually Pump Pump I love Malik's verse Yeah Malik comes off on that

And I love G's up holds down Even though they took it off Certain pressings of it And then they put it back I love that this guy's in it No he's in it He's in it He referenced Pump Pump

And I think doggy style is better than the chronic I stand on that I stand on that A lot of people believe that Not enough Not enough It's not it's talking about as like it's the chronic no no is is dog

doggy chronic they were getting there yeah doggy style that's the production was yeah yeah I think doggy style is a better album it's it's it's basically flawless yeah yeah because it's I love the chronic though there's so much all right but I think what you're what what I hear you saying is doggy style is a better body of work where the chronic is a collection of dope song yeah is that what you're saying like dog style was like a it's a full album yeah and it's more song you got more of it and it doesn't get weak like it's longer but it doesn't get weaker some of the some of the features on the chronic

was just okay I feel like there there wasn't a weak feature on dog that that's a really good point too yeah like some of the features on the chronic I was just kind of like all right you know and they don't really hold up as well but doggy style front the back it's it's a flawless piece of work I really I do think that's the it's it's not Not stated enough. Now, if you got into it, if you wanted to get into a really heated debate. Yeah. Especially here in New York.

Uh-huh. If you wanted to get to a conversation about is doggy style, should it be in a conversation with Illmatic in terms of like greatest debuts ever? Yes, absolutely. A thousand percent. But it's not put there by most people. Who's, first of all, point me to where this conversation is happening. He's right, because I don't see it listed as that when they say debut albums.

It's never next. It's never had a. I've never seen debut albums, best debut albums in hip hop as a combo. You've never seen that combo? No. But you're not a ranker. I'm not in the ranker algorithm. Yeah, we're ranking.

We know this thing. They be giving me the algorithm of like the best debut album. El Maddox always won. The Elmatic, JZ, 50 cent, Kanye West. Yeah. Pund gets thrown in there sometimes too. Rightfully, by the way, great album. But Doggy Style is never at the top.

They never mentioned that. If I were from L.A. I could, not even not. If I just didn't want to be hated in New York, I could see someone saying, let me make the case for why doggy style is better than Elmatic. And it's, you can make the case for it. Yeah.

As I've pointed out many times. It's my favorite West Coast album to this day. Doggy style. Doggy style. Yeah. Well, I mean, I feel like it's only Dre battling with Dre, right? For best ever. Well, you got Kendrick in there.

Now Kendrick's in there, too. Yeah. The game has a case. The documentary. The documentary. The first several game albums are. Yeah. He's got a great.

And we're still doing debut, West Coast. Davey. Oh, if you're doing your debut. By the way, game tonight. Verses. The game and YG. Game and YG. Oh, on Apple music.

That's right. I feel like the verses, I feel like they're keeping them low key. I didn't even know. I know. Because they don't pop. I don't think it, maybe it's not on your algorithm. It's not popping.

But no, there is something there a little, listen, because we're comparing it to the pandemic where that was the only thing we had gone. Right. That was the party. But even after, it was still like, it still had momentum. But like, what was the last one? No, the last one was very under the radar.

I was like, wait, what? No, well. It was big in a certain space. No, no, no. It was pleasure P and B2K. Pretty Ricky. I barely even knew that. Even before that one, when it was, didn't Rick Ross?

Ross and French. I didn't even know they were doing one. No, it's not as heavily promoted as it was at a certain time. I'll tell you one problem, though, with me. If they had said, hey, Peter, your life is on the line. I need you to name Pretty Ricky songs, or we're ending it right now. I got it. Ebro, Ebro, be finding a new co-so.

You'd be in for me permanently. I get grind with me. It would definitely be Ebro, Tony and Laura at that point. No, it would be over. I got grind with me. That's all I got. You got one? Yeah.

What's the biggest one, Louis? What's the biggest pretty Ricky joint? Huh? Grind with me? Yeah. And I know that right? I know that one. I know several Pretty Ricky songs.

I knew more than I thought I knew. Really? Yeah. Yes, Rassan. They got another big one Iconic debut albums What is that even What is iconic?

What does this mean? That picture of Biggie that they chose for a list Who made? First of all so here's my problem With the internet Who made this? Who made this? Well, look based on the graphics,

someone who's not talented And what is iconic debut out? What does that mean? What is as far as ranking? Like how are you? I don't know, what is that metric? Who knows?

Epic debuts where it shifted the, it moved the needle, it shifted the culture. It was a good list, though. That list was great. Tony, you know. Lord Hill is an asterisk though.

Yeah, it's not quite your debut. It's not quite her debut. But it is her first song. Because the score was massive. Tony, you know how like you go on your Instagram and like you'll put up a clip of like people arguing about relationships? Yeah. And you'll wait a second and you go, shut up.

Shut up, man. Yeah. That's how I feel about hip hop list sometimes. You'll shut up. Shut up. But that was a good one. Well, I say shut up to that one. Why was that?

good. Because look at the list. Let me see it again. It was great. Look at that. Cole's debut deserves to be in it? No. Cole shouldn't be in there.

No, yeah, Cole's the only one I have an issue with. Yeah. Everything else is, I mean, listen, Dre is questionable. Lauren's questionable. They both have bodies of work well before that. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, it doesn't even, good kid mad city.

It's good kid Mad City is what you would list there if you wanted to enlist it. Yes. Because if you're going with that, it shouldn't even be Section 80. It should be overly dedicated. Right. So that's why I said Shut the hell out Yeah they get things wrong

You're right Letless does suck Tony I don't know why you brought that But everybody else That was super legit Nah no It's fact Yeah but no

Doggy style should be right up there In the convol I mean Elmatic I probably in the end Would take Elmatic if I had to I guess But it's my favorite album Number one

Ever What's your least favorite song on Elmatic One time for your mind I almost did a countdown How to say at the same time Because I knew you to say One time for your mind.

Did we just become best friends? And I still like it, of course. Me too. Of course. What's not to like? That's the weakest one. Yeah. Yeah.

I love you guys. Hipop nerds. You guys are great. You act like you're not one as well. I'm not as far as y'all. I can't remember stuff. Oh, okay. I forget stuff.

He would be there if he could just remember the stuff. He was working too early. Yeah. Like I was playing this stuff on the radio at that time. In 94? Yeah, I was on the radio in 1990. Where did you start? Sacramento, California.

You started in 1990? Yeah, he was six years old. 1999. You're from Cali? Yeah, I'm from Oakland. I thought you was East Coast McGee. No, I mean, that's how most, a lot of people know me because of the internet. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. No, he's Dickies all day. And I didn't know you was from Chicago. Yeah. And no, I never wore Dickies all day. You saw. I'm in Northern California.

Why would I do? Where did you think he was from? I didn't know. I really didn't. I had no idea. I had no idea. And I didn't know that you and Kev were both based in L.A. I thought you guys, you know, I put together.

watching y'all but yeah i didn't know how old is is is cav your age as well he's a little younger he's like 41 okay yeah and how'd you guys meet we met in tacoma washington Nate jackson um another hilarious comedian he had a show that he was he was doing out there in Tacoma and so he brought me out to headline and kev was uh he did the feature spot on that show so we met there and um and y'all just became quick close friend yeah it was like you know when i when i met him there i liked his material because he also had two boys, I had two boys. And so I was like this guy.

I was married at that time. And the stuff he was talking about, I could relate to. I was like this guy. And then we was just cool. And then when he started working for all death, when he came and he moved to LA, he would bring me in to do sketches and stuff. And so we would just remain cool right after that.

How come there's nobody doing sketches? Like, I mean, obviously you got the SNLs. And you guys do, I see you guys do like an improv thing sometimes. I see it, but is there a sketch comedy thing right now? Right now there's not a popping one, like, you know, like a key and peel level SNL type. The Hulu original series Furious is coming to Disney Plus, starring Emmy Rossum. Furious follows FBI agent Alice Black on the hunt for a mysterious and calculating serial killer. Both walk their own paths toward justice and as their lives start to intertwine,

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You know what I'm saying? It's hard to do. Like even even when you remember go back to Key & Pill, right? Like you know on the algorithm, it'll put something in front of you and be like, yo, they had a skit for everything. They did, man. But at the time, people was mad at Key and Peele because of the Dave Chappelle's show. Well, what was the Dave?

Remember Dave, when Dave left Comedy Central. Right. And it was like a whole blow up. Yeah. Key and Pill took the slot. Right. And people hated on Key and Pee and Pell because they was like, Oh, they just trying to throw some black dudes in there to replace Dave Chappelle.

Little did you know you were getting one of the most brilliant directors of all time and an incredible actor and comedian and King of Michael King. Well, hit us all with the button. Congratulations, you played yourself. This sketches are fire. Fire, bro. They're scared. I would argue this.

Pound for pound. Whoa. They have better sketches than the Chappelle show. Pound for pound. They don't have as iconic like the Rick James, Prince, the, the, the, the, white, supremacists those are the standouts the standouts from Chappelle are significantly more iconic right with the exception of course substitute teacher has really stood the test of time he gets the names wrong you know and

Barack Obama those ones have lived on in big ways sure but if you go back because I remember having mixed feelings on Key & Peel also yeah and then every time I'd end up seeing a sketch on YouTube or something I'd be like you all these sketches are really good yes now when all sketch shows are hit and miss for sure what Larry David's doing it right now on his show. Okay. His show has ones and then the next one

you know, that's what sketch SNL forever. SNL, they. What's their batting average? SNL batting average. Low. Not even making a Hall of Fame, not lower than 300.

In totality, they've had moments of pure heat. But lately, every time I pull up the SNL, I'm just sitting there. I'm just like, waiting for the thing. Just waiting. Yeah, it's like the... But they've had years of this.

By the way. But the people... Like, there's probably, like, in the... How long is that show been on the game? Fifty-two. There's probably, I bet you if somebody added it up, 50%, maybe more. Years. Like, 25 years of trash.

Yeah, yeah, but it's fair. You mean if you calculate it based on the sketches? Yeah, like this whole season, like, you go back to a season, you're like, okay, y'all had one. But here's the thing that makes SNL. To me, this is what makes SNL so high level. Yeah. In the years in which you think this show sucked,

you go back and see the cast that came from it. Yeah. And you go, okay, the sketches weren't good this year. Right. But the talent on the show is the highest. They always have the good talent. Bro, right now? But Tony, Tony, you think he's saying that because he's white?

Because you know white people like SNL. They do. They do. But there's always a star that pops from SNL. Every cast. Right now you got Cam and what's my guy's name. Marcelo? Yes.

By the way, oh no, and the woman, they have a woman on right now who's on fire. They have like a handful right now that are really good. They always have some standouts. Even on the whack season, it's always going to be like somebody's coming out. My brother's up there, so I'm always going to support. Keenan's up there as my people.

Oh, yeah. He's been there for 22. It's a great job. Yeah. It's a great job. Yeah, he's been there for ever. But no, I'm telling you, you go back and look at the early 2000s, the Will Farrell era, for example.

Right. Basically every cast, every five-year period, you look back and go, wow, they had some hammers in there. Doesn't mean the sketch is it, though. But that's the hard part about sketch comedy. To your original point, why is there no sketch comedy? Because most of the shows aren't good because doing it's hard. Well, so, now, Tony, here's a great question because you and Kev, I don't know how much you're involved in the, in his 2B content that he's making. I know you write a lot of stuff, right?

Like, you're actively writing in LA for different things. the amount of time it takes to develop a audience for sketch with the amount of misses you will have in sketch. I don't think we live in a time where these companies want to take those risks and make those investments, right? Like that's the big issue. They want everybody that already have everything done and then you bring it to them. And then they want to take 75% of them.

Yes. That's the era we're in now. Can you just do it all yourself and bring us to 10 episodes and then like you got to you got to shoot everything on your own and then it'll all right. I like that. After you already 15 episodes deep and whatever you created, now they want it. Well, and how is that affected because you guys are making or you specifically are making so much great content? How are you getting those offers, those things coming your way now? My main thing for me is the voiceover stuff.

Yeah. Like, you know, that's how my Instagram exploded when I was doing. voiceovers and so but every time we try to develop a voiceover show a lot of people uh either they over they want to over produce it or and then they just be like well we're looking for different kind of content now i'm like y'all is sitting on a gold mine right because people love the voiceovers they don't need the extra fluff and the extra shenanigans they they just i like watching your animal voiceovers before i go to bed right i mean those are classic classic how how how How many years ago do those videos start to pop?

I would say my first one went viral, 2015, 2014. 2014. So basically you're like 40 years old, almost 40 when that happened, something like that. Yeah. And you've been in comedy already for 20 years. I had already, I started doing stand-up in 2008. 2008. Yeah.

So then I was doing more. Damn, you got it pretty late for a comedian, right? I did. Yeah, I was like 30? Yeah. 31 and so already a father I was just like because I wanted to act you know so you were just pursuing acting up till then yeah but not comedy no and I was like maybe I should try stand up as a way of exposure to get acting right because you know all the comedians with transition and acting right and so I was like once I did comedy once I was like oh this I never stop but nothing hit nothing hit for you as hard as the voiceover thing did I was like doing like a character work On Instagram, like I created this villain named Travis Santiago based in movie villains, how they always got to reveal the plan to the hero before they kill him.

So every time I would have a hero tied up, I would like, oh, that was my plan all along. And then I would turn around and just start talking. And then the hero would escape and I turned back around and then he's gone. So I just did a bunch of those while I got you. Right. Also, you're going to take my mask off? Oh, eventually. But first, I'm going to hoist you over the water supply to the towns.

I'm always after the water supply. Well, the water supply is important. That's it. The town needs a water supply. So I was building off that, like creating those kind of characters. And then once I did the voiceovers, I just threw them back up on my page one time. It was a raccoon eating out of a cat food dish. And the cats were surrounding the raccoon.

They were just watching them. And he kept, he was looking at the cats. And he kept dipping the food in the water. And then he would eat it. Because raccoons, they got to wet it first. So he was just like, y'all don't be doing this? And so I had him talking. Y'all, y'all got to get, you got to wet it first.

And then, and the cast was just like, yo, man, who's this? They were just like, yo, who's? And then he, and then he runs off. And then he comes back for one last scoop and then dips off again. Okay. That went crazy viral. And it was like, let me start doing these just on the regular basis. Because I was going to develop a segment for that.

Marlon Williams had a, he was going to do a network called What the Funny. Yeah. And so I told him, I was like, hey, I could do like a voice. over animal voiceover thing for what the funny he's like I pull those I had two voiceovers up pull those off your YouTube and then let's develop that and so but what the funny fell through so I was just like well let me just start doing these on the regular and then they were just viral they were just all doing numbers and are you are you feeling like the business is saying successful transitioning your followers on

Instagram into the comedy shows because you're on tour right now yeah yeah that's how we got you in New York yeah it's uh yeah it does okay because a lot of people me from it's voiceovers it's all deaf work it's me and kev working together it's it's all of these things just you know and people just want to see me yeah so so you're happy you're feeling for do you feel fulfilled i would feel more fulfilled if i announced that i'm coming to your city and it sales out quick boom that's the ultimate end game so which cities go crazy uh dc new New York, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta.

These are good cities have. Yeah, these cities are we having problems with? It'd be like if I go to Buffalo. Come on, Buffalo. Buffalo, well, to Buffalo's credit, last time I was there, the sales were okay, but then there was a blizzard, so I couldn't even finish the weekend. But it was still ashy before.

But in a way, you're kind of like Buffalo. Y'all get blizzards all the time. why is this hard for you to figure out what you will do during the list. This blizzard was crazy, though. It was crazy. I was crazy. I was like, yo, so next time I go to Buffalo, I think I go in like early November. No, let me get in there before.

I might be too close. I might be cutting it too close. Yeah. But I think you got to go to Buffalo in like April, May Jones. Yeah, I should have did that. But then, but Benny showed up. Benny came to the show. Oh, okay.

Shout to Benny and the Bush. Yeah. The Griselda guys enjoy a good comedy show. Yeah, he pulled up, man. I met him and his wife. They were great. Now, listen, if you see Stove God at a show, you don't go making fun of it. Why would I do that?

You haven't seen the clip of that? No. What? What are you talking about? The viral. This is the oldest hell, bro. We've talked about this. The viral clip of Stove God at the show wearing his big ass stove chain.

And the comedian starts mocking him and thinking he's a fake rapper. I did see that. I forgot it. I never saw it. It was before Stovegod got really. I feel like it was before FICO. I feel like it was before the huge clips record. Yeah.

Or maybe right around the same. Yeah. Like, yeah. It was a viral clip of Stove God getting clowned by this comedian. It's just, it's a funny thing. But they enjoy a comedy show. Yeah.

I have a theory on Buffalo. Oh, what's there? I've had this theory since I was 22 years old. Underrated attractive women in Buffalo. Okay. All of them have children. Every single one. If you are willing to become a stepfather,

you could do incredibly. Buffalo is the move. No, I'm telling you. If you want the blended family. Yeah, blended family, some warmth, something to cozy up to during the wintertime. And you have to go during the blizzard. Because it's going to have a blizzard. It's going to snow in.

It's going to snow in. You got to huddle up. I want to take a look at one of Tony Baker's clips. Do you have that Instagram post about the box office of the movie Odyssey? I want to talk about, I sent it over in the chat. You don't have it? You didn't see it? That's staring at you blank.

That blank stare. That's what I didn't see it either. He didn't see it either. He's scrambling. He's scrambling. But anyway, you've been covering the Odyssey several posts recently. Yeah. Rosenberg, have you been following this movie?

So I know that there's a lot of talk about The Odyssey. It's supposed to be amazing. I know you can't get a ticket to it right now. It's completely sold out everywhere. For IMAX, you can't. Yeah. But what's the angle? What's the angle you're taking on The Odyssey?

In the group chat. It's in the group chat. Biggest day. The movie is great. It was worth the conversation. Christopher Nolan delivers once again. It was just a good, it was just a good film. How did Travis Scott do?

He was just there. It was like, it was so small that I can't really. Inconsequential. My brother said, my brother said, he had lines like right out of the gate. He does. He opens the film. Yeah, he said Travis Scott opens the film. The first voice you hear is him.

That's crazy. Because he's just pretty much like, he's the barred of the era. So he's just talking about. But you don't see him a lot as well. No, no. How long is this thing? It's three out. Yeah, so it's really, it doesn't feel like it.

though. Okay. But it's just I'm trying to see it with my wife. Yeah. Trying to go see it with my wife. But the blowback leading in and obviously since it's been being, oh, go ahead. Wait, where? I thought I knew what you were going to be dealing with, which is just getting jazz to get into scene. No, no,

no, I think she kind of trusts me now after Game of Thrones. Remember she had to watch Game of Thrones? Right. And then during pandemic, I was like, yo, you got to watch Game of Thrones. She was like, this is the best. Yeah, yeah. So anytime I'm like, babe, we got to see this and there's some swords and horses and some She's going to be like, all right.

So what's the blowback? Well, the internet blowback has been around Lepeda Njongo in the cast. And Elliot Page and Lupita specifically. They're black. Well, they were like, what? She's black. What is she doing in this playing Helen of Troy? So they were all over there.

Oh, they made Helen of Troy black. Okay. Yeah. And then. Which, by the way, is possible. Sure. And also, by the way, Who cares?

Keep gone. She never existed for real. Right. And it's fiction. And they were born in eggs. And she has a twin sister. None of it makes sense. None of it makes sense.

And who cares? Yeah. And then they were also offended at Elliot Page, because they thought Elliot Page was going to play Achilles. So they were offended again. So now you have a trans person playing Achilles. Oh, Elliot Page is the trans guy. Yes.

Got it. Playing Achilles. Achilles is the best warrior to ever exist in that time. And it's played by a trans man. Brad Pitt played Achilles and Troy. Okay. So just to give you, and it turns out,

his character is not even Achilles. So they were just all up in ours for no reason. And by the way, even if he was the most trans person in the history of trans, and Elliot Page is pretty trans, are they aware of what acting is? Right, exactly.

Exactly. I don't, I just, I'm listening. I don't, I just don't. So they were like, we're not going to watch it, we're not going to see this piece of shit, and then it. And everyone says it's pure.

your fire. And as you both just articulated, you can't get it taken. No, it's hard to get a ticket for fun. Mr. Flex night. They did crazy numbers over the weekend. I'm a box office nerd as well. Yeah, you're really into a box office. Well, you know why.

You know why. It's ranked. It's ranked. It is. I didn't even put that together. Did you guys? I didn't even put that together. Did you guys see the thing moving around Twitter that was fake, the AI thing

that's supposed to be the Odyssey scene with the women with the tities? No. Yeah, I haven't seen that. Any of you guys seen it? Rosemorgh always got some titty. Yo, my algorithm. My algorithm tells me one thing. Yeah.

You, sir, like titty. Is this like, it was like an AI thing. And then everyone's like, oh, this is the Odyssey I want to see. And it shows, and it looks, you know how AI looks with these pictures. Right. It looks real. And they're all these women with gigantic breasts wearing these outfits like they're in the Odyssey. And it's AI.

And because you hadn't seen it, you assumed it was the actual movie. Yeah. And I was like, wait a second. Well, I'm like, is this movie directed by Christopher Nolan or Kanye West? Yeah. Like, why is this what's happening? Right. Yeah.

But no, so apparently that's the thing, too. So the Odyssey, I just find it interesting that the Odyssey, which is like literally when you say a story oldest time, a story oldest time. Yeah. It's such a big deal. How many times has this story been done? It has to be a few times, right? Yeah.

I think there's another few films about it. And then there's stories. Because they tapped in the Greek mythology several times. Right. Clashes of the Titans. Just all kind of Troy. But they weren't up in arms when, you know, Brad Pitt is playing. Where's the Greek representation?

Now you're looking for Greek representation now? You know what I mean? And so I'm just like, whatever. And now they're like, oh, they got American accents. I prefer that. Because normally why everything got to be English? By the way, it's so true. Why does Game of Thrones have to all be British accents?

Yeah, always. Oh, it's British is old. Now we old is British. Yeah, why is it that particular accent? Why can it be a different accent altogether? Because American accent ain't old enough. Right. Yeah.

And we only 250 years. No, facts. We're as I, as I discovered when I went to Italy, we're not even a real place. Like, this is not even, this is brand new. We're like the, we're like the, the bullshit, face tat, mumble rap of countries. Oh. That's what America is. When you go to Greece or countries in Africa or Italy and you look at America, we're like Lil Zan.

You know what I mean? Like, what are we really? Yeah. We're mumble-wrapped. It's brand new. They look it down on this a little bit. And they should. Have you been to Italy?

I've never been to Italy. Where have you been internationally? Singapore, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Japan, Seychelles. You know, you know. Japan. Old. You love Japan? Um,

I've been to Okinawa more so than Tokyo. That's, Laura, whose seat you're sitting in is in Okinawa. Oh, now? Right now? Wow,

okay. So what's up with your Asian fetish? Why only Asian countries? Well, no, no. I was still, I was going through my thing. So I've been to Mexico City,

uh, Bangladesh. They tried to hit you with a fetish. Well, because he just went one after. I was like, wait, I was going anywhere else?

I was just trying to map every, every place I've been. I've been to Portugal. Portugal's pretty old. Yeah. Lisbon, we were in Lisbon. I've been the UK. You've done a lot.

Germany. So you know when you travel and you see these places with this like, you know, thousands of years of history, that they are very unbothered by the whole, like,

trying to keep up with America. America's the greatest place. It's so like, so what is that? We kind of think too highly of ourselves a little bit. You know what it is? Kind of. The American exceptionalism thing is a sickness. No, you know what?

You know how old heads like this respectfully? Yeah. Old heads like us are sitting around and you hear a kid and they go, or not even a kid, a 30 year old. And they go, little Wayne, greatest rapper of all time. Right. And we're all like, no, I mean, little Wayne's dope. There's no way he's the greatest rapper of all time.

Yeah. That's America. No, y'all are doing a cool little thing. It's cool. No, it's not great right now, but you guys have had some good moments. Yeah. But we're here having real talk. We're talking about Raqim and Biggie and Cool Jee. So the other countries are talking real talk.

Yes. And we just, we're the young ones. Like Portugal's, Portugal's, you know, Portugal's Hove. And Spain is Raqim. And Italy is, you know, Big Daddy Kane. Like, and we're like, listen, these other rappers are good. Yeah. But where are we talking about them in 30 years?

You're way too new. Too new. And even Wayne now, I'll give him credit. Wayne's not the U.S. Wayne's like Finland. You think Wayne messed up his legacy? see with that last album. You could add an S to that.

Oh, album's plural. I mean, I just feel like Wayne Post Carter 3, full body of work-wise, has been, what's the real one you're hanging on to? The Carter 4 was solid.

It was cool. It was cool. Solid and cool is interchangeable. I want to let you know that when Ebro says cool, if, let me put it this way. If I sent you a project to I was working on. And I told you it was cool.

I'm like, you're going back to the lap. Well, there's a, we have a, we've, I think discovered a reason why we feel

Little Wayne has struggled in the last few hours. Do you have the clip from yesterday, Rassan, the little Wayne clip? This is big. Little Wayne on sleeping.

Do you find it hard to sleep at night? I don't sleep. Ever? You don't sleep? Because I worry so much. Yeah. What time do you go to bed?

I don't have a time. Well, wait, do you really not sleep? No, no hours? So, tell me about this.

because I feel like I've been, I've had trouble sleeping. What do you do? So are you up from like, let's say it's like midnight. You're like, okay, I'm going to try to lay down and go to bed. No. So you're never trying to lay down and go to bed. You're never getting the bed ever? You never get in the bed?

You know Lil Uzi? I want to tell you something so crazy that I, Lil Uzi goes, he was at the studio with Shemir, and he goes and he sits in his car and they drive him around for two hours, and that's when he sleeps, and then he just comes back to the studio. Do you ever sleep when you're being driven?

No, I don't know, that life. How do you relax? How do you relax? Like, how do you like, you have to have, like, when are you like, you know what? I'm gonna take a deep breath. I work privately, so, you know, like, meaning out, my studio is my home. Yeah. And so, that's relaxation for me.

Are you working 24-7? Yes. But you napped though, right? Yeah, because. You are writing 24-7? He don't write. No, he doesn't write anything. Recording, yes.

Recording. You have to understand that I sign my first contract at 11. I started doing this around seven or eight. There's not one second has it been a job. It's been something I desired. No naps? How was he alive? That's what I'm saying.

And that's why we have broadies of work that aren't what they should be. And I had a theory for a long time. Rappers would come into the show. And I would ask them if they drink water and eat vegetables. And there would be something like, never. I don't know. Ever? I mean, and I would,

and my theory was when that's why your music sounds like is out. Oh. And I can tell, I can tell right now sitting across from you, you're 49 years old. Uh-huh. And looking at your, your skin and your, your posture and who, you sleep and you don't drink poison 24-7. You sit down and have a meal.

Oh, you have, I can see it. It's on the face of people who look healthy. That's crazy. People not sleeping is, is. And, and, and, and, And I'm encouraging you, Tony, from here on out, that when you see something chaotic or a person doing something chaotic,

the first question we should be asking is, do you sleep? Yeah, that's number one. Do you drink water? And when's the last time you ate some extra? Because I guarantee those people that are doing crazy things, sounding crazy, looking crazy,

making crazy decisions. I guarantee they're not sleeping. Because Wayne looked tired. Bro, sounds tired. He looks sleepy. I've been doing this. he's not that old, bro. He's younger than me.

Yes. Now, maybe he's, maybe he's lying. Maybe, you know, because there was an era of like, in hip-hop where it was like, nah, I don't sleep, man, I'm just barring it up all the time. Sleep's the cousin of death. We talk about this. Yeah, but by the way, that we realize that's Naz's his worst line. That's his worst line?

Yeah, because it's a lot. You've lied. You've lied to him. It's the cousin of life. Sleeps makes you live. It's not a cousin of death. That's true. We need sleep to survive.

For sure. So if you see Nas, you should run by it. Now, what he may have meant, given Nas a pass, is in the context. That's nice. I'm sure he needs that from you. Right. Is in the context of the record, maybe he didn't mean it directly, like sleep as a cousin of death, meaning like. I never sleep on stuff.

Yeah, I'm never sleep. I'm always paying attention. Because once you start sleeping. Because if you get caught sleeping, you get caught slipping, and that's how you get. It's not actual sleep. If I slip, then I'm slipping. That's right. But if I got my meaner.

Because I think, you know I'm set true. Niz looks like he sleeps. Yeah, no, he's aging well. He's aging. He's aging. Yeah. He's making good business moves. He's getting rid of.

We love to reiterate that sleep is not the cousin. But maybe, you know, you know, here's how I think he's playing with it. I think he's playing with sleep as the cousin of death the way the evil cousin of something is like, it's like it. but it's, but death is the evil cousin of sleep. Right. Okay. You know, like sleep is beautiful. Yeah.

Death is its nasty cousin you don't want any part of. For sure. But sleep is right. And no, in all, in dead ass seriousness, though, that was really telling that clip. That was crazy. And I, and I just texted Dave and told him, I'm like, you just going, you don't get in the bed is one of the greatest contributions to conversation. Because think about, you're saying you literally don't have a time at night when you go, time to wind down. Right.

It's my favorite part of the day. Going to bed. Once the baby goes down, and once I see the baby, she plops down, and her butts up and she's just like, I go, oh, guess what? Looks like a great idea. I'm on my way. How old is she? She's 18 months.

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You ready to go to bed. We're going to go to sleep. You know what I'm saying? And when we got cozy earth sheets, and this is, I'm not, this is not because they're sponsored because we got some sheets. Yeah. They sent us like, here, try it. Right.

My man, I went back and redid all the betting, bro. I love it. I'm not even overhyping it. Because I got a joke about that, I tell on stage. Remember when we were little? Yeah. Your arch nemesis was bedtime. Yeah.

We all hated going to bed. That was a threat to kids. Hey, you won't go to bed? No, no. It was a threat. And Nas reinforced that. Yeah, it's like, hey. It's a cousin of death.

You won't go to bed? No. We threatened kids with a good night's rest. That was the threat. Hey, you want a good night's rest? No. But now. That's an adult?

You fantasize about going to bed. Bro. Yes. You can't wait. I tell people that. It brings me joy. I get in the bed, lay flat on my back, and I smile. Boom.

So you think Wayne was just so affected by the marketing of bed is bad that it's really been his whole life? Nah, no, no. Sleep is a kid. I don't think that. Or he loved Nas that much. He's like, I got you, Nas. We have to be serious.

We have to be serious. where Wayne comes from. Okay, remember he said I signed my first record deal at 11 years old. That's crazy. Okay, and I've been doing this since I was seven. Yeah. Now, if you know, you've been in New Orleans.

Yes. Yes, and you've been to the projects in New Orleans. I'm sure you've seen different government houses. Yeah, yeah. You thought he just stopped in and hit a quick, noly a clap. Well, no, no, no. I'm not going to do that, though. You'll pull up.

Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Like, that's just, you know, you go into cities and you know people, I don't know if he knows people. You go visit where they're from or they show you a around whatever. I like to see the hood in every city I go to. I like to see the richest hotel in every city I go to. I've never been big on hotels. I'm not either. I'm just, it was a good line. I don't. It felt right in the moment. It felt right in the moment.

I'm not a big hotel. I'm a corporate hotel guy. I hate a boutique hotel. I want my hotel. I want my hotel to have a FedEx, a Starbucks. I, because the more boutique it is, the smaller the rooms are. The more annoying. I mean, God bless him. I love the man. Okay. Farrell, love the man. I, I stayed in this hotel when I opened in Miami. My TV was built into the faucet. I had to hang my clothes. Because those hotels, they don't want you in the room.

They want you hanging out of the time. They want you to party. They want you to party. But on the Wayne thing, I think he just grew up in an environment where, like, it was that chaotic. And so prioritizing sleep. Like, we always talk about, like, people live in buildings where it's like it's night time and it gets louder at night. Or the police activity or, like, here in New York, I don't know if they did it in. Chicago where they shine the big light on the building a lot of prevent the drug dealers from

standing out front so they put a big giant light on it yeah it's 10 o'clock at night so right you at the same time lives in there yeah now there's a spotlight on your bedroom window now now now flip side of that though wayne has been pretty well to do since he was like 14 15 years old right like and baby at that point already probably had a pretty good situation yeah by the time 15 16 years old but the patterns that we set for ourselves like I still like I don't do this all the time anymore because I just want to go to sleep

but I still love watching wrestling when I go to bed and I'll like go on YouTube and pull up an old wrestling match It's comfort So to your point if your brain with the comfort was always chaos

Right Then maybe he doesn't But also the same way Wayne took the whole I don't write things It's kind of like his cool card And I think a lot of people took that from Hove was like

the I don't write. Right. Didn't Hove take that from Big? Because he didn't write even. Because that became the thing. It's like, I don't write. I almost feel like the not sleeping thing is part of it too. Yeah.

Like, I don't sleep. But he is with troublesome. Like, when he said, I don't sleep, it was the look on his face. Like, when you hear some people say, it'd be like, you know, I never say. I sleep about two hours a day, but they still look alive and alert. Wayne was looking like, you need a nap. Right. Like his face.

He looked. weathered. And he's not an old man. No, he's younger than me. It's, it's, I really do worry, bro. People got to sleep. People got to sit. Well, y'all go to, y'all are radio guys.

So y'all been going to sleep early since when. Well, I go to bed. I'm in the bed. Yo, listen, some days, these days, I'm in the bed sometimes at 9.30. But I hang out to 11 o'clock. You know, I'm scrolling. I'm looking stuff up, texting with these guys. But 930 is your average.

No, I'd say, I'd say average. round 10. I'm in the bed now. I'm in the bed at 9. I've been in the bed at 9 for years. I'm not playing. What time is baby going to sleep? Nine. Baby goes down at 9 too? Yeah, we're all. Everybody shutting down. My 11 year, all, everybody shutting down. Even on the weekend? Yeah, what about we? We might push the 10. Well, but hold on real quick. On the weekend, do you ever put the baby down and you stay up a little later on Saturday? Yeah, and sometimes jazz and I watch a show, but then we end up falling asleep anyway, because guess what, that baby is about to get up? Six o'clock. How old is your baby? I have a two and a

half year old. Okay. And then I have an 11 year old. But we also are getting up at 8 o'clock as a family on Saturday morning and like, you know, for years I'm getting my daughter or myself to an activity. Like Saturday morning is yeah gymnastics, Alvin A Lee. Yeah. The gym. And then we come back and we take naps sometimes on Saturday. So you get you get maximum rest. It is the number one priority. I don't know, like in all serious. You got good skin in here. Well, I was about to say, if you, Ebro's 51.

I will be, I'm 47 today. Okay. Oh, happy birthday. Yeah, I forgot. But I told you on Monday. Yeah, you said you did it Monday. I knew I was going to forget. It's all good.

Today is my 47th birthday. Yo, Griff didn't even write it down on the paper. Well, he doesn't care for me. All he's got here is Laura Stiles is out. Well, doesn't that say everything you need to know? And sponsor. Hold on. What does Griff care about the most?

Laura Yeah Sponsor So he's doing his job But yeah I'm 47 today Ebro's 51 Wow

I'm not proud of Oh yo And it's highly Salasi's birthday too And I've been tracking this Oh wow Both Rosenberg and our friend

Shani claim that it rains Always On my birthday Yeah On highly Salasi's birthday But it was it Rory

But it was it's raining This morning No I don't know It's still supposed to rain It's coming It's on the 4th But the point I was

To do mornings As long as we did Yeah And to look at least half decent, which I do, I think we at least look half decent. Yeah. That's only because of prioritizing sleep. Gotcha. Like, you see, there are morning hosts out here who look like fiends.

Because they're drinking, they're out. They're just, I'm just making. Yeah, we're not in the club. I can't. Got you all drink? I like to drink, but I don't really drink anymore. Okay. And not for any other reason other than I want to get up tomorrow and get on my bike and go to the gym.

and I don't like feeling like shit. You go to the gym before you come to work? No, no. I was just thinking like weekends when I would drink. That's when he rides his bike is the weekends. Yeah. Gotcha. I love cycling.

Peloton? No, outside. Oh, okay, got you. Now he's on the street dressed like a freaking lunatic riding 100 miles. He's like Greg Lamon lives strong. Driving, riding the bike through the sea? No, no, no.

We're out in Jersey. Oh, Jersey. Okay. Like going up what they call the Palisade Park. Parkway kind of area, Alpine, and then up to, like, Bear Mountain and these areas up north of... So they got bike paths out there? Bike paths, big shoulders. No, but they also are these guys who take over the whole side of the road.

Like, they're... No, no, they got a whole. We're in the shoulder. The whole shoulder. Are you a drinker? No. Not at all. I drink like three times a year.

That's good. Yeah. Now, do you not drink for a reason? No, it was just... It was never really my thing. It was never really my thing. Like, I would do it when we were young, but it was never passionate about it. What about it?

smoking. Nah. That's super, like super rare. Really? Yeah, super rare. Weed. That's what I'm talking about.

Cigarettes, absolutely not. But like a weed, last time I smoked weed, I would say 20, 24. And it was just, she was hanging out. A girl came over,

she left her roach. No, I took a hit while she was there. And then she left a roach, and I took another hit, and that was it. All it took was that. And I was like,

You were lost. Yeah, I was just like, man, I don't know how you do this. I'm not bad. So you didn't, when she was over, you didn't close a deal because you got too high. We fooled around a little bit, but it wasn't like. Now did you hit the weed to impress her? Like it was like, yo, I like this. I was just like, why not?

You know, I'm a tight ass. I just felt like a tight ass. Yes. I was like, you know what? And then, but then it kicked in shortly there. I was like, I don't know how you do this. First time, one of the first times. And she was like, he a rookie.

I'm going home. Pretty much By the way, one of the first She went home the next morning But I was like One of the first times I hung out with my wife It was during the pandemic

And she she slept over And the next day she was like You want to smoke? And I was like shit, light up Yeah How time it is? I've like you I've aged out of it

Yeah Unfortunately as I've gotten older I've enjoyed drinking more than smoking Which I wish wasn't the case Because I think While neither I think are what Lil Wayne needs. I think smoking is better for you than drinking, right?

But yeah, as I've gotten older, it just doesn't. The drink at least loosens me up and I feel relaxed. Weed makes me start questioning too much. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm playing records for all my turntables for her. She's like into it, like watching me DJ. I'm like, oh, I play some joints. She just holds out the joint.

I'm like, yeah, you know, just you. Yo, bro. Within 20 minutes. Okay. I had to excuse myself and go to bed. She was like, you should just go to sleep. Do you want to just go to your room and go to sleep? And I went to bed.

And I was so paranoid, bro. And I'm like, and then she hung out on my apartment and started playing video games. I had a, it was pandemic. I'd set up some video game system. Yeah. She starts playing video games. And this is the first time. This literally our first weekend hanging out.

And I'm like She was being so nice to me That I was like I think she's like obsessed with me Oh I think this is I think she's crazy like she This chick wants to marry me I was like I don't These are your paranoid thoughts

I'm like she's And then I hear her Preparing food I'm like yo she's up in my house making food Who is this chick? I was like is she about to bring me food Like she thinks she can come and like Prepare me a whole meal

And like I'm all of a sudden gonna be her husband? Yeah. What the fuck is this? I walk out and look in my room out of the room and she just made

herself some food. She's just eating by herself. She's not trying to do anything with me. Yeah. I am so at that moment I was like, this is crazy.

Now who is this? This is my wife. Who, by the way, one of her best qualities is she does cook for me and takes care of me. He does all the things. But at the time,

the ill thing is though, here's the ill thing about weed paranoia though. Maybe I did already know like and I was scared because I was coming off a divorce and all the stuff and I'm like maybe I really did just meet this

person. Yeah. I mean you know what she was trying to do you know what she was trying to do. I want to know what drop. Go ahead. Set me up. She was setting you up. Classic Israeli operative. You know what I mean? Working from Assad

came in Rosenberg's house. She bugged the house. Yeah, she made some. food got you high. All of a sudden, fast forward. Fast forward. And now, now you're married to the,

now you're married to massage. Yo. And now I, now she gives me this a, a beautiful, perfect baby. Ooh. Now she's got her hooks in.

She played your, Honeypot. She played you nice. We got married. We got married. So that was in, uh, that was in late April 2020.

We got married in July, 2023. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, man, let's do it.

This is, well, listen, you, so you were divorced? Yes. When were you divorced? 2012. 2012. How old, and how old are your kids? My kids are, I lost my son in 2021. Oh, God bless, man.

He was 21, and my youngest is 24. I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah, I appreciate it. So you had, you had a 24-year-old and 21-year-old. So you had kids in 2001? 2000 and 2001. And you and your wife called it quits in 12. Yeah.

And you just been outside ever since? No, I was outside from 2012 to December 2017. Then I got the relationship for five years. And then we split at the top of 2023. Top of 2020. Well, that, but based on the timeline you just gave us, that must have been a really, really tumultuous emotional time for you. Which one?

Coming out of your son. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, that was 21. That was 20. We lost him in August, 2021, car accident. And then, and then we had to break up. We had like a slow breakup. It was like a, you know what I'm saying?

But we were still cool. Still cool to this day. Still living together. We broke up. We still living together. So what's your relationship like with the mother of your kids? Great. I'm cool with her husband.

And she remarried. Shortly before we lost Serrain, she remarried. His name is Tony. And we got the same middle name, too. Wow. And he got married shortly before. Yeah. She's not over you.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Same person in the middle of the ball. He's white though. Oh, he's white. Oh shit. He looked like Jason Keard though. So even she was like, wait, you're not mixed?

You're not mixing. He's like, I'm just pure white. He's like, yo. He gave mixed. He gave mixed energy. He looks like, when you look at Tony, you mean, you like, somebody was black i'm telling me it's jason kid vibes how how much how much do you talk about the passing of your son in public i talk about a lot of a lot yeah yeah i want to take it to the stage but i'm scared

that the audience is going to get too sad so so um as ebro knows very well my ex-wife's brother was killed an accident at 18 um so i i i know not now having my own child Obviously it's made me rethink my in-laws and certainly your experience is unlike anything else. But I have seen it up close. The accident thing is a very specific, horrible club. What do you want to do with it on the stage? Like, what part of it do you think you would want to share?

Oh, just like when you're at the ground zero level of the epic loss, like I feel like when you, if you rank. Oh, no, no, it's number one. If you rank tragedy, losing a child, I feel like it's number one. First of all, it is so unnatural. Yes. It is supposed to be buried in me. Yeah.

And it was an accident. It wasn't like a health issue where we, we slowly. It was like, you say goodbye one day in this. It was the night of the dipset locks versus. It was that night. And he went out to hang out with friends and, you know what I'm saying? And then that was last time I saw him. Was it drunk,

driving or just a random accident? So he was in the car with his friends. It was for them. It was him. Jaden passed away as well and Natalie. And then the driver of their car, she survived. So they were just turning. The other guys were racing.

They were just racing. And they were just racing. And they were not drunk. They were just racing. They were racing. No alcohol. They were just racing. And what was the, what was the legal decision on?

So one, there were two cars involved coming this way. And so one, a minor, he was like 17. So, you know what I'm saying? And then the adult, he's like 20 something. Still in court on that, on his. The minor, they were in jail. Then they were trying to appeal for like a house arrest situation

because he was diagnosed with cancer while he was in jail. And so they were just doing all this stuff. So he's pretty much out, you know, out now. And the other one's still in court? The other one is still in court. They keep pushing the court date back. And you know my ex-wife and her husband, they kept going to these court dates.

I went to one court date. And I was like, I can't do it so more. I'm not, I'm not built for the court. Because they would drag. They would drag it out. And now you feel like they're playing with you. Yeah, because it's like, it's one thing after another. They're just stalling.

And it's like. And none of it's bringing your boy back. None of it. None of it. None of it's making anything. Yeah. When you go to court, when you go to court, that's when it's like real somber and like,

bruh. It's sterile. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have the memory of our son. it's joyous it hurts but it's like the memory we feel is energy when you go to court that's when it's like death somebody died serious face

and you got to look at the person you know the family's giving our family dirty looks I'm like what? Yeah a lot of nervous No exactly because they're being protective of their kid if I see that in court I'm gonna flip out right like Lorenz Tate and dead president right I'm like I'm not going to court you know what I'm just so how have you

Wait, wait, wait, wait, I need to stay on that. Yeah. People was giving you dirty. So the family of the drivers that hit our kids, they're giving our families dirty looks in court. Like, what kind of skill? Like, my wife told me that, I was furious. But, but, but I don't even get,

my brain is not processing this at all. I don't get it. They're fighting. They're fighting to get the, they're, I understand that, but what that ain't got nothing to do with me. Exactly. Right. Exactly.

But that's what happens, bro. Yeah. So I was like Because you went to a court date Oh on multiple court dates What? Wrote letters spoke And we did everything

Bro It's it's uh Yeah and I'm saying something bro No I'm definitely gonna be like Yo check this out I know I know you're upset Yeah

I know you're upset Everybody's upset But y'all need to fix your face Yeah Like because you are Fucking bugging Yeah If you think

We're gonna be in here And you're gonna have a problem with me Cause your kid Don't kill my kid Absolutely I'd be talking all type of loud In the hallway would be wild.

So you just said, all of that. So you just said I'm out. I'm out because it's not going to serve me. Because one thing I was able to do throughout this whole process is keep my anger in check. And the court is not going to help me with that at all. Especially if I see that,

I'm like, I'm flipping out. Now have you. If God forbid if my son was responsible for the deaths of another person, if I see that family, I'm like, every time I see the family,

I'm like, correct. You know, the utmost. regret and your own guilt because you feel like you made mistakes that allowed them to make them yeah what did I do exactly I'm I'm humble McGee anytime I would see that family if I was the parent of somebody that caused the death of somebody and I yeah I will say I only remember meeting the the it was a drunk

driver who was driving my brother-in-law in the car okay so he was drunk and speeding and then he left them oh after the accident happened he left them and three Three of them died. Oh my God. Right. Fortunately, my brother-in-law died on impact. Second it happened. That's what happened to my son.

But on impact, which you end up finding like this weird because the others. Suffer. The girl, the sweet girl, Haley, she, she, they tried to medevac her, but it was too late. You know, like it could have, had he not run, she could have lived. So, yeah. So he did, even though he was the driver, there did become this villain sort of dynamic. For sure. But I will say, I remember running into the mother.

in public or my ex-mother-in-law ran into her and she was definitely nothing but yeah crying and hugging her she was not nasty in any way there's no way I could ever be like nasty to the family do you and your um do you and your ex speak like very frequently about your son like is do you guys lean on each other yeah like especially when it was the ground zero time it was like we would have moments of just like when I was weak she was the strong one and vice versa so we would always play off each other well in that regard. Like, you know, if we would talk about it, you know, if I know she was struggling, I would be the stronger and then vice versa.

And how did, and how did the new husband, like he did a great job? He was fantastic, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think he's a blessing to her because he was really there. You know what I'm saying? And they, you know, freshly married, you know what I mean? Jesus Christ. And that helps her, I'm sure.

Yeah. So he was there. He was there with her going to the court. Because he was trying to convince me to go. He's like, I really think you should. I'm like, I tell him, I can't do it, man. I'm like, you know, I told her, and she was like, she understood. But tone was like, man, come on, man.

I was like, I can't do it. Because I know myself and it's not going to. So how have you managed? Like, how do you, how do you day to day, man? Because you're still like, honestly, in the big picture, you're still not that far. You're five years out. This is not that far.

Yeah. How do you deal? The biggest, what helps me the most, is that we had a great relationship. Because I don't carry any extra baggage of regret. Did he know I loved him? We was on the outs. You know, there's none of that.

And so that's what helps me a lot. Like, he knew he was loved. He knew we had a great relationship. Our last words to one another, I love you, I love you too. That was the last thing we said to each other. So it's like that gives me so much comfort throughout the, because we can't bring him back.

We got to take it. And so at least I know, He left here knowing that we loved him and he loved us. So that's the big, that's why I always tell people like, you know, get right with your loved ones. If it's something that you can work through, work through it because you never know something like this might happen.

And now you have to carry grief and regret. That's a whole other can of worms. That's a deep one. Did he know I loved them? You know, people really deal with that. Right. Even though you know deep down they did. Yeah, but it's still like, we had that argument.

I've never, you know, we were on the outs like how's your other how's your other son he's good like you know what I'm saying like and they you know they grew up it was it was two peas in the pie they were they were so close 24 and 21 yeah they were so close in age that it was just you know that's his bro and I always tell him like I'm sorry for your loss because he has a different loss yeah yeah then what that's a different relationship he lost his brother we lost our son even though we're all connected that's you know what I'm saying like he doesn't know life what

out his big brother. But he's doing good, though. You mentioned anger. Have you, how do you work through that? How are you therapy, comedy, writing, skit, like, is it all of it?

Comedy, like, I often talk about him. Like, I can't wait to talk about him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, whenever he's brought up, I'm like, yeah, yeah. I bring him up in regular conversation. It's actually helped me

with other people I know when they lose somebody, I know how to move now because I was at the center of the Ground Zero. So now I know how to be there for other people when they lose somebody. As before, I might have been like, I don't know what to say, so then you avoid the person. And so now when I've seen it from Ground Zero,

I've seen people disappear and I've seen people show up. People I wasn't even that close to, like extra show up. Oh, snap. And so I learned a valuable lesson in how to move and help people through grief like, Kev lost his brother And so I knew how to be there for them In that moment because I suffered the law

I was like what you need for me You know some people don't even need you to ask them that Like what do you need me to do? Like some people they don't even have an answer So you just have to be there Did you um did anyone tell you Because I do you just brought it up And I think this is an ill thing

I remember early on Someone said to my ex-wife they said I know it's too early for you to know, like to understand this. Right. But one day when he comes up instead of crying, you'll laugh. And at the time that it was said, I was like, you sound insane because the sound of his name just elicited tears. Yeah. But then at some point, somehow, it does start to change.

We're like, I want to talk about him. Yeah. And I want to laugh. Yeah. When did you start feeling that transition somewhat? I remember, I remember this was like two days, maybe two or three days after the accident. And, you know, all the family that came in and we were at the, we used to go to the location of the accident and just be out there.

They would have music playing candles lit and we were just out there. It was on the, it was on the corner. So the person who owned the house where, you know, they found Saran laying, he was just like, he was just very open, like, you know, understand. But he had to, he eventually had to put a wall. up because you know it was just constantly people out there and so we were sitting where they found

serene it was me my brother-in-law my niece and we you know we're crying but then we're just laughing at stuff right right then and there it's just like wow even in the early days of I'm laughing at stuff about him just things that you everything everything was fun even at the funeral

when the pastor was bombing the pastor was bombing he was up there the past I was like, what are you talking about? I remember looking at my brother-in-law like, what is he talking about? Where did you get the pastor from? He was the pastor of the church my wife was going to.

Got it. And so, because I'm a firm believer in like, the pastor always feels like they got a headline. Yeah, yeah, they do. And if they don't know, if they don't know the person like that, they're just going to be able to, now, Leviticus, man, scratch all that. Especially when they follow family members with real stories

And funny stuff And now here they come Here they come And then they try to relate I remember I had a dog that jumped off the roof We was like Well you know the club You've heard the classic one for my life was

My grandfather passed away Obviously a very different situation Sad funeral but you know old people funeral It's not the same Right You're okay We had a rabbi My grandfather wouldn't be caught dead in the synagogue

So they have a rabbi talking about my grandfather My grandfather spent his life. He owned blouse shops, right? And he sold blouse at the flea market. Yeah. And we're sitting there and the rabbi gets up there and goes, Julius Rosenberg spent his life in women's clothing. Yo, bro, we fell out.

That's mad funny. And he meant no joke by it. We're like, why are you talking? Because sometimes you're right, just the rabbi or the pastor, it's not you, you're just the person to get us from point in and point B. And they just follow When the family goes up They're gonna give you something

Either hard hidden or funny Yes You're doing neither He was just up there I was just like Have you face wet I turned to look at my brother Because my brother-in-law is silly

So I was just like Is this happen? And then it was like I was going to a lot of funerals after that Because we were losing a lot of people And they were pastors We were just bombing left and right Even at Kev's brother's funeral,

Kev's mom went up there and killed it. She destroyed it. It was like she did a set. Right. Pass the goes up there. Even at the family assemblies before the funeral, I was like, now Kev, man, is he going to bomb?

Is he ready for this? He's like, no, no, Tone. He knows my brother Jason. He knows him. It's going to be good. It was not good. It bombed again. Bomb.

Have you ever thought about? From this point out, people are going to be at funeral. It's like, yo. Rating it Past the bomb You can't be bombing At the funeral man

Let the family close out the show That's a fact That's a fact Or just be the facilitator Of getting us from point A To point B Don't try to do your own set No just be warm

That's all we need It's just warm That's it Just facilitate Have you ever thought about Writing a film Or show About this experience

That could be both like Sad and awful and funny and heartfelt. Like, has that ever... I want to take it to the stage. Like, that's the comedy hour I want to work on, talking about Sarane. And like, you know, I did a joke about...

Because he was cremated. And so I was like, yo, how do we know this is him and his? Same with my mom. Yeah, because when you go pick up the bag. Yeah, they could give you any bag. They be like, your son. And I'm like, how do I know this is not

Archibald Benedict? Or like, is it? a mixture of dust in here. It's like multiple people. It's like the hot dogs of human remains. Yeah, you don't know what it is. You don't know what it is. And they can be like, this is him. Like, what if they handed me the wrong bag of dust?

Well, and the ill part is it's for real a bag of dust. It's a Ziploc bag of dust. I got it for Rocky. He's a baggie. I know. It's really it's not dope. Because like this this is everywhere, it's an urn piece. So his ashes are in here. That's fire.

What's wrong with you man I think this that's what they told me yeah so when I had to get the ashes to put in here it's still in the bag inside the urn so I had to go in the bag and then just you know what I'm saying but no with the characters

like you have a really beautiful thing there with your ex-wife and the ex-wife's husband and there's a lot there man it's like that's as as sad and horrible as the story is there's some really touching pieces because it was like it was at that time Rosenberg got a show place

so he thinks he could tell everybody what they need to do get a show place. I just see it. I just see it. He got one show place. And he's like, yo. And by the way, you know what you need to do?

You don't even have a pilot. I know you've been writing for a long time, but I got to. Check this. No, I've sensed. I'm seeing something, though. But yeah,

because I've been, I've been, you know, talking about doing that. So I just been scared, I'm scared that the audience, because I don't want a one man show it. I want it to be a stand-up special. Right.

Because if I do a one-man show, I have the freedom to get dramatic and then go back into the funny. you know what I'm saying you got more leeway but I still wanted to be all stand-up storytelling because like when I met you know Cherie's husband now Tony we had just met previously like real quick like how you doing man you know what I'm saying and then you know we lose serene so now you know we're thrown in we're around each other all the time and so it's just like tragedy you know made us we in each other spaces all the time yeah and so I'll never forget we

were playing this is ground zero again we're playing dominoes we're all that there house and Tony was telling me about losing his father or whatever and he was just like I wanted to see I wanted to look at my father after he passed I wanted to see him because I didn't look at serene me and my wife we never looked at him he was like I thought about it I want to see that I wanted one last something but then I was like if I see him like that I'll never forget the image that's right so I'd rather have it to where love you love you too going out the door and did you have who did you have identifying to you had someone else do it I don't know who did the identification.

Me and Sheree were both like, nah. It was Spencer's aunt went and did it. Two aunts went and did it. But like, yeah, the immediate family, it feels like too much. I want to say my Aunt Dietra did. My ex-wife's aunt. I want to say she did, but we were like, no. Yeah.

But Tony was like, I had to see my dad. And we was just like, you know, crying, sitting there playing down with him. Yeah. And then mid-tires was just like. And Aunt Dieter was playing too. and she just put like a six on the four. And I was just like, who the hell put this? Me and tears on my man.

Who the hell put this on my dad. You get back to the dominoes like, who's man is this right here? It's just crazy how you can laugh in the midst of just complete gut, you know, gut out. And I'm also, I'm also, like, enjoying just how black it is, too. Oh, yeah. Like, in the middle of all this, because, like, there's Dominoes.

We're playing Domino's. Tony's white, though. I'm about to say, and I'm about to say, and to speak to white Tony's blackness, yeah. He's in the game of Dominolems. Yep. Yeah, he'd be tan. White Tony's scared of.

But you know, none of your friends calling White Tony? No. Nobody calls him white. From here on out, he's white tone. White tone. White tone. White tone. He like black women, though, man, because he got kids and they mix.

Wait. Oh, he already had, he already had mixed kids. For sure, yeah. Got it. So he has a type. I met his, I met his daughter first through the, through the tragedy. Right. You're meeting all these people.

Why are you doing? Oh, and that's the worst. They're meeting you for the first time. That's the debut. This is like tragedy. But it's also a great bond. Oh, for sure. Trauma bonding, nothing like it.

Well, I was just going to say there's beauty in it. I know, I know, you know, yeah, it's, it's like, you call it ground zero. But there is, I believe, in these moments where humans connect around something like that, around a person who was beautiful. Right, right. Which is your son. Yeah. And now there's other beautiful relationships that spawn from that. Sometimes that is the gift.

Yeah. Right? That is the blessing. That is the whole thing is that you were able to learn about yourself, about you and your ex-wife, meet new people, expand. Like, you know, ah. It's just so unnatural, you lose a child. Oh, yeah, for sure. However, in this human experience, like, I have this conversation all the time as I get older about the human experience is about understanding pain.

Mm-hmm. And different levels of pain and loss and body aches. I mean, I'll pick a pain of some sort. Physical pain, emotional pain. There's always growing pains, all of it. All of it. All of it. That is what being a human is.

And I think the sooner you accept that, it kind of like things start to make more sense. Yeah. I think the word's acceptance, even more than understanding. Yeah. Because sometimes you just can't understand. You're not supposed to understand.

You can't. I don't understand. That's ununderstandable. It makes no sense. Right. But it's not for you to understand. It's for you to accept. But the acceptance is when the acceptance is when the pain

can start to dissipate a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. It's always going to be there. It's never going to be there. I can function with, you know, my day to day. Because if you didn't accept it ever, then every day is that,

not only you dealing with him not being here, but you're fighting an impossible. Can't win. You can't win. That's one thing I didn't. I didn't fight nothing. And, like, you know, my friend Chantay, she had lost her husband years before.

And I asked her, like, how do you deal with that? And she's just like, just take the waves as they come. Don't fight the waves. I'd never fight the waves. Roll with it. So I'll just be like, ooh, you got to roll with it.

I always tell people, people too it's like lifting weights right it's always gonna be heavy yeah you just might get used to picking it up especially if you practice picking it up you know I mean it gets lighter yeah but it's still the same weight still the same still the same and it's not gonna change and you just gotta and and it sounds like you're doing a great job picking it up trying to when it when he first passed he passed in August I was back on the road doing comedy like at the end of August what all right maybe you may just be an insane person though that's on the table because I had I had to make people

laugh just to, you know what I'm saying? Just feel some, some energy coming in. And so... But you could get through, like, how did you get through a given night? The first time I got back on stage when he passed, it was a quick set at the laugh factory. I felt weird. It felt weird.

I was just like, and then I saw, like, one of Saran's... It was actually sincere as my youngest son. It was one of his friends and his mom. But I saw, I saw her in the audience and it just felt weird. And then when I got back on the road, I was a little nervous on how I was going to do a full set and the audience was aware of, you know, what just happened

and so I was like, and I can tell they was like, you could, you know, it was that supportive look like you good, bless your heart, it was that bless your heart energy. Right. And so and then I just got back into the rhythm of, you know, doing my set. Like, you know, I made some changes

like I wasn't really doing meet and greets because I didn't want people like. Right, right, right. Right. So I hid, but I just had to get back on the road just to give that energy out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Plus it was like, it took us a while to do a funeral because we had a COVID outbreak within the family. And so we had to push that back. Family was stuck with us in town.

Wow. Because, you know, they couldn't fly. They couldn't go back to work. So I'm like, oh, man, you know what I'm saying? Luckily, like, people were chipping in. And so I was able to get Airbnb's and kind of get some people some money. for the work that they missed but it was just like a long thing wow and so but yeah I went back to work and then that next year I was like I'm taking the first two months to just sit

still and just marinated and so I did that and they got back to work and then I took a year off that following year just a complete year off just whatever yeah so you but you feel you feel like you've sorted through it and have you gotten any reached out to professional help have you gone I haven't done like professional therapy yet I remember when he first passed I talked to a medium you know what I'm saying and then I was like all right and then I was like yeah I'm gonna do the therapy because my wife was doing the grief counseling and the therapy all that yeah but I was just like no the people's like go to therapy I was like all right I will and I'm not against it but I just feel like I don't know I just feel like doing it on my own like I feel like you feel good

I feel good. Like, I feel like I'm in a good place where the only thing I will say, I do kind of hide. So that might be why you need an extra tool. Yeah, that might be why. That's the, that's the tool you're missing. I hide. Like, I stay in the house, you know, I'll come out for special people. But usually I'm like, no.

That was funny. I appreciate it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Can you? I'm like, nah, you know what I'm saying? If I'm not feeling the energy on anything, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like now no no because I want I want as much peace as possible yeah if there's anything that's going to stress me out I'm like now watch out well that and I imagine that is all related right

because you now have a different there's a different sort of stress threshold that exists of like I need to stay it's more work now to be upbeat right be happy because you do have this huge thing that will always for sure and I'm always surprised like you know as any parent we all have that thought like man if anything ever happens to this child right here I don't know how like when you see parents that have lost children like even that

their latest thing with the Nolan Wells story yeah when I see them you know before I'd be like how are you able to be on the news talking like I wouldn't be able to everyone says they wouldn't be able to right but then when it happened to us I was talking

I was on the news I was just like and I'm still doing shows, I'm just like, how am I able to do this? It just happens. And so it just told me a lot. Do you ever get annoyed? Did you ever get annoyed? And maybe the answer is no.

At people going, I could never do it. No, I don't get a note. Because I was there. Because I was there. I was going to watch that person. Like, I don't see how. Because I know they're looking at me like, how. How are you able to laugh, function, talk?

Because I used to be like, man, they just lost their child. They on the news talking about, you know, we, we want, rights far you know what I'm saying but now that I've been there I'm like oh yeah it is possible like you know what I'm saying and so you just learn a lot when you go through something like this about yourself about others how to move I think that extra that extra tool might be useful though especially if you didn't do that prior yeah if prior to losing your son you were not that person where you just kind of felt like right and then now now are that person I'm a little Heidi now right Now it's like I need to go figure out what is really

Yeah because I feel like The reason I come out for special people Is because I feel safe with them And I feel like, all right You know what I'm saying like as before Now mind you I was I do like being at home Yeah

But then it became It could have something to do with me moving Like because when he passed I was in my two bedroom apartment still My carpet was still dirty Then I moved to a house out in San of Clarita, which is a better out. So it could be that.

I just like being home. Yeah, you're doing better. But I will give you this. I am that I'm not, if I don't need to be somewhere, ain't no work for me to do, I'm not there. Yeah. And people be like, I just come out and I be like, I love my family.

I want to have a two-year-old. My wife, she's beautiful. I want to be with my, I love what I have. Yeah. I don't want to leave, right? And I love sleep and I have my cozy earth sheets. Like, this is all working for me. It's fantastic.

Nine o'clock. Right. Right? So I don't want to be there. And I, and Roseberg knows this. I never really liked a lot of people. Like, there's people I like, but a lot of y'all I really don't like like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if the music ain't great and I'm stuck having to talk to a lot of y'all.

Yeah. That's a lot, man. But I've always been that person. Right. And I'm just saying if you've become a different person, then that's why you need the tool. A little extra tool. But maybe not. Maybe you're not.

Because it's like, man, I'm not. I like being at the house. And now since then, I bought my first house like in 20, 24. So now I'm really, I love being at home. You're gardening. I'm in the house. Man, I'm in that house. Right.

Good for you, man. So, you know, I'll come out, you know, for a game night. If you do a game night, I'll come out for that. Dominoes. Domino. Spades. I love spades. Taboo, all the game nights.

You know what I'm saying? Like anything Kev has in his house, I usually show. Rummy? I've never I've never learned how to play that I just learn how to play. A rummy cube? I like Spadege. What, rummy cube?

No, chin rummy. Yeah. What about Tom? My mom told me that, but I forgot. I got to relearn it. I got to relearn that. It's not hard. Rummy's not hard.

I got to relearn that one. Poker. I like poker. Even though I don't think I'm good at it, I like playing it. It's a good social game. Yeah. I'll never play that shit in the casino.

Absolutely not. Yo, I said that, well, I have played in the casino. That shit. Yeah. Bro, there are people who sat there for 12 hours. Hell no. Got their headphones on and sunglasses on

just to steal your, they got all day, all night. I can't do it, man. Not doing that. I'll give you $100. If I'm at a casino, I'm like, man, let's live a little. $100. That's big.

That's my limit. Maybe two. Maybe two. Yeah, I'm not spending $1,000. The hell, no, man. Never spent out there. They just scoop your money. They just slide your money off the tape.

It took you, it took you hours, weeks, months to get. They just. And it's gone. No, that's why I can't do it. You do the gambling apps? No. No apps. He's an app guy.

No, you keep saying that. All I did was. You made some money on the finals. All I did was I endorsed. From here on out, you're the app guy. Yeah. You bet on the Knicks? I endorsed Fandul for my radio job.

Gotcha. And I had some money in my account. And one day I said, I love the Knicks and I just put money down on them. That was already in the account. And then they kept winning and they kept winning. How much you win? I won like five, six grand off the Knicks.

And you started with like 500. Yeah, I was betting 500 a night every night. And they covered, the Knicks covered like 14 out of 16 games. Wow. There are people out there who definitely like idiots. They're like idiot degenerates who got rich during the five,

who like it finally worked out. And I really hope they stopped. Did you take the money out of the account? Yeah. You go. Oh, I took it. I made my time. Hell yeah.

But I wonder if there are people out there, because I said on the radio, when they got to the end of the conference finals, I was like, have you been killing it with the Knicks and you're a Knicks fan? Stop. Yeah.

If they win the finals, let that be its own joy. Right, right, right. Take the money they just gave you because at that time, I think they'd won like they'd covered 12 or 13 or 13 to 14. Like, it was an unbelievable. That's good money, man.

No, that's, but it doesn't happen very often. Right. I'm glad the Knicks won, by the way. I'm a Bulls fan, but I'm glad they won. Why? Because I like Brunson a lot. Okay.

I like the way he plays. I like his mentality. I just like how he is. I like that team. I like Josh Hart. Like I liked, I liked the whole come up they had. They had everything. Yeah, it was just like.

They went to college together. Yeah. Struggling me. I was feeling that, man. I was like, yo, I liked them seasons before. Yeah. They were making their playoff pushes before. I was like, I like the Knicks, man.

And I like it when the Eastern Conference wins because the Bulls are in the Eastern Conference. Yeah, I respect it. And so since my team, nowhere near making it, I was like, I want the Knicks to go all the way. And so it was interesting. But also, too, I think people need to admit, right? And we'll see this in years to come. You will never see an NBA championship celebration like what you just saw.

Oh, that was fantastic to watch. You'll never see that again. Yeah. There's not a team. In 53 years. Well, that, so you have the 53 years. And I brought this up when they were headed in that direction. It's New York City.

Yeah. there's no other city that would win a thing. Yeah. Like there's so many dynamics that make it so unique. And then you, the artists, the music, so much. The amount of people who were just in the streets. Yeah, it was like, were you all in the streets? I mean, I went to, my daughter to the parade and I work.

I have an office right across from the garden. So I would just be standing out there every day like, this is incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it was a while time. That's amazing. The summer still, it's still, I mean, like the energy this whole summer here. How long you're in New York for? I leave Friday morning.

So, man, you might want to stay an extra day and just like walk around New York on Saturday. It's a nice vibe here, man. So it's still vibe. Yeah, no, it's been a good summer. And New York in the summer's always great. Yeah. Period.

Weather has been great this week. Yeah, but like, yeah. But like, yeah, but like you bounce over to Brooklyn and just like just see folks being folks. Yeah. I love New York, man. I am a fan of New York. Yeah.

Even growing up, like, I felt like all the movies were in New York. Like watching all the movies. Right, that was the time. Statue of Liberty was all the way. I was like, man, he ghostbusters too, the Statue of Liberty walking around. I was just like, yo, New York, man. And then, you know, they were filming movies in Chicago, but I just felt like everything was in New York at the time.

So I was like... But Chicago did have its run of great movies. Oh, for sure. Fares Bueller's Day Off. Oh, oh, Blues Brothers is like my shit. Uncle Buck. Uncle Buck. All the John Hughes was Chicago.

All the John Hughes movies are so in Chicago out. But Home Alone? and um but i was always like new york and then you know i lean east coast when it comes to rap we can tell full circle so it was just like so when i come out here i'm always like man i need more time like i want to be out here for like a month do it you should do it well by then there's so much comedy well we'll change the graphic i told you to be ebro tony and rozenberg or you know or tony Rosenberg and Laura. I'll take some time off.

I got to get a new knee surgery anyway. Yeah. Boom. By the way, so much comedy to do. Oh, yeah. You have a great time. Cellar, man.

I love going to the cellar. So come for a month. Yeah. And you and Rosenberg can rank all day. Yo. Kevin get jealous, but Rankinburg and Rankinburg. No,

I'll Rankinburg with you all day long. I love ranking stuff. Get in on this ranking stuff. I'm not good ass. I'm terrible. I'm not as passionate as you. Come on, man. Listen,

now y'all see why we had this guy on the program today. Great human being, man. Appreciate y'all. Love, bro. Thanks for the combo, man. Absolutely. Appreciate you, bro. You know, if you living in a city where he's coming and you ain't bought the tickets yet,

you know what I'm saying? Get out there and get the tickets. But the only city you said was slow was Buffalo. Well, that's only because the last time it was a little ashy. But this tour has been going pretty well outside of like Birmingham. Birmingham, come on. Birmingham and Hartford was a little ashy. Everybody else was legit.

It was on point. Yeah. Philly is showing out. I'll be in Philly in November. They're already selling well. Next cities I'm in. I'm in San Diego and Louisville for August. Then I got Austin, Texas.

I got Philly, as I said, Buffalo, Tampa, Orlando, Palm Beach. I'm forgetting one city. Well, listen, I have a perfect way to end this whole thing. You see Tony Baker in person. I guarantee makes you jump like Rod Strickland. Just don't call in a podcast.