The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 153.) FOTS Friday + VERZUZ Matchups (7/31/26)

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

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Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro-Lora Rosenberg shows. Yeah, Friday. It's, you know. Okay. It's truly become Fought Friday, because the truest of the Fots join us on Patreon.

Correct. Well, listen, I don't know if I love that. Because you could be the truest of Fots but not have the extra money. That's right. Sorry, let me say it again. The truest of the Fots who have the extra money

Friday. It doesn't really hit the way it's supposed to. But no, in all seriousness, we do know there are some people out there who just can't do it. Well, and I think full disclosure, we felt for a while since we started Patreon

that we wanted to be able to give the people who are able to pay for Patreon extra content. That doesn't go out on the free platform. So that's really what that is. Sure, I agree. Well, and, you know, initially when we started the show, the idea was we wanted to keep people in a pattern they were used to.

If you were used to getting our show all the time for free. So we wanted to give that to people as much as we could. But we were also on the fly kind of figuring out what does this whole thing look like long term. When you can tell by what this whole thing looks like, and I mean literally looks like Rosenberg, dressed up, you know what I mean, iron shirt, nice tie, ready for television. Let's go. The fact that we're, you know, figuring out how to give you guys extra content on Patreon while balancing our very, busy schedules because you're the ones that the ones that make sure the lights down those ones are

important no no no I don't know if I like that either okay because there's lights on in here and there's people paying for Patreon and so they're making sure that those they're keeping these lights that's right but I have to keep the lights on in my house right and it requires extra work and you wear this suit this shirt and tie that's all that's all I'm saying like we got to be careful with our language is really very good point and also I don't even know what my deal is Monday Monday I fly back from Minneapolis dumb early okay like what it was it was What are you doing? SummerSlam this weekend.

You're wearing purple. It looks like you're ready for the event. It's in Minnesota. It's in Minnesota. That's right. So SummerSlam Saturday and Sunday. I'm flying back Monday. And it was a either fly back at like 11 a.m.

And probably missed the start of my afternoon show. But I really don't like waking up early the day after like a weekend of hard work. I really hate it. So you're not coming Monday. Is this what you're doing? No, no, no. So in the end, so I'm just going to be completely transparent. I was going to cut it close for my afternoon show.

Missed this show completely. Oh, blow us off. Oh, yeah, this was done. I was not doing it. I'm taking off Monday, and I'm going to maybe make it back in time for my other job. Damn, okay.

But the only seats available were like 37F. Got it. So I'm now on the 6 a.m. on Monday morning, or 5 a.m., something like that. So I still don't know if I'm making it here. My guess is no? No, you're not making it here. How far is Minnesota?

If you leave Minnesota at 6 a.m., it's already 8 a.m. No, 7 a.m. Or 7 a.m. here. Yeah, you're right. I'm on the first thing smoking, but I'm not making it. Who should we have fill in for him? You want to have someone fill in for me?

It's not a bad idea. I'm talking to Laura. You're not going to be here. No. Let me think about it. Let me think about it. Think about what we want to do on Monday. Your last suggestion turned out great.

Who's that? Tony Baker. Tony. Oh, yep. That was the Ebro-Rosenberg and Tony show. Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah.

Well, Tony seemed like a lot of fun. He was awesome. Great guy. Yeah. Can't wait. Maybe Hassan Piker will be in town. He could wear a cool outfit. I doubt it.

That's a good idea. So something to think about. Something to think about. Well, on Fridays, when you guys tune in, we like to get to something we call what we missed, right? I'm sure there's some goings-ons. But we like to get to things that we thought we wanted to cover but didn't have time to get to. That's right. Rosenberg has some things.

Laura, you have some things to start with you. Yeah. I mean, we have video number four. This is something we, and people were asking me, like, how come you guys didn't touch on this? This is my son talking about Colin Kaepernick. Remember, that was a big conversation. So let's watch the clip. How you feel about the Kaepernick slander that they give Jay?

We're dealing with the NFL. Let me give you my perspective from the inside. When the whole Kavanaick thing first started, my organization was one of the first organizations to protest with Kappernick. We went to the NFL, had a big protest outside the NFL downtown. The headquarters. We was at the headquarters. Like, we spearheaded.

all of that we were going emails with Kaepernick like I was front line I had I'm with cap t-shirts we trying to boycott this and that I see Jay come in he got the cabinet jersey he keep front and center with it one day cap'nick stop answering niggas phone calls we planned the next action we on the email they're like your cap'nick is not answering nobody's emails he didn't left the group chats damn I'm telling you this for a fact So I'm like, what you mean? He left it like, we don't know.

Mm-hmm. And this happened for weeks. So I'm like, what you mean? He left the group show. He's like, nah, they're like, he just went silent on us. And then next thing you know, we've seen Kaepernick has a settlement. Mm. He got a settlement.

They say he signed to Indiana. I'm like, he didn't tell us. He didn't. So you saying that we did all of this shit, that niggas sacrificed and beefing with other niggas, and we doing all this shit. And a nigga we sacrificed for, just disappeared from the movement and didn't even notify us to say,

you look, and he should have took a settlement because they owed him his money. That's right. But he owed us the people that sacrificed with him the right and just the heads up to say, this is what we're doing. I did, nigger, to tell me my mind, and that shit hurt me because I'm a cat,

and I still look what he does to this day, bro. I love, he got the, I know your rights, and I'm not saying anything against what he's sacrificed. Even he just paid for the young boys, um, autopsy, all these things. I love what he does, but I just don't like this narrative that niggas did dirty by him when he literally left. And if that's what you wanted to do, I'm just saying I would have never did that. That's right.

So what's the problem there? So people were taking it as if my son was shitting on Kaepernick. Well, I watched the entire clip and that's not what I got from it. So what's the next issue? And then people were like, oh, because of your Rock Nation ties. What Rock Nation? Well, everyone has rock nation ties. My son?

Yes. Well, I mean, he's on Bleaks podcast. Yes. So maybe because he was on the podcast, I mean, you know how it goes. You go to a brunch one time. Yeah. You're on the payroll. But wait, I do remember.

I remember having Tamika Mallory on our show and Tamika telling us when they were protesting Hardin Ferguson who paid for all their security, who took care of them. Jay? Yeah. So I, because I remember that conversation. I remember them being in danger and he can't and it wasn't a public thing until she said it you know what I mean

They were like he took care of us He made sure that we were all saved her Carmen Perez And you know the whole squad So even the whole reform alliance thing Right like that's Jay and Rock Nation And them trying to change state policy And connect even the whole Kushner brunch thing that people are well I saw Beyonce at the table

At the table blah blah That was in Atlantic City I believe That was a fundraising Like it was, you know, and look, I get that people have problems with these things. And I get that not everybody's going to like every move that Jamie. Are you trying to say that Jay-Z does good things? And then sometimes he misses. And that even Colin Kaepernick generally does amazing things,

but maybe he has had moments that wasn't perfect for other people. Are you saying that human beings are human and not everything and not everyone is perfect all the time? This is crazy because I just saw my son hold Jay accountable while also showing him love. And I just saw him hold in this clip. And again, I wasn't there. So I don't know. Holding in his eyes holding Colin accountable for what he thinks he did while also giving him love. I don't think you can give my son.

I don't think he could do much better than that in terms of at least telling what is his truth. Unless he's outright lying. Pick a side. Rosenberg pick a side. But does the internet know? They don't know, Laura? No, they don't, but they want him to pick a side. Pick a side.

Monkey in the middle, all we see. A hundred percent on one side or a hundred percent on the end. Stand in the middle of the road, you get run over. Which I think is ridiculous. No, it is. That is what they say, though. It is true. But, yeah, I saw other people.

But no, I don't. Well, you say that is what they say, and it is true. Sometimes. Sometimes it is. Pick a side. No, but sometimes. But there's also, it's nuance. Like there's, look, you know, most.

Multiple things can be true at the same exact time, meaning what Cap and my son and his and what they were doing, protesting the NFL, prompted the NFL to change things inside the NFL, which we saw, right? Hiring people, community outreach, doing things that were beneficial to the communities that most of the players come from, right? Kaepernick's work did that. It could also be true that they owed Kaepernick money. And as we know, and anybody who's been through a settlement with a company knows that when they pay you the money they owe you, they ask you to sign a document, a non-disparagement agreement. That's right. That legally prevent you from saying things about them.

But do we even know that that really happened? No, I'm just saying it could be true. Multiple things could be true. I think Jamel Hill came out and said that he didn't. sign that. He didn't sign that, yes. I believe so. Louis, can you look at it?

Yeah, just want to make sure. I saw Jamel tweet that something about Jay started talking to the NFL before Kaepernick signed that document. That could also be true. All of these things could be true. I'm going to say something I felt for a long time. And I say this is someone who loves Cap. Last time I saw him said, hey, can my daughter take a picture with you? I want her to take a week ago.

I know. But I want my daughter to take a picture with a hero. Like that's how I view him. but a lot of this stuff could also like get help if like if he spoke you know I've always felt that way like you know like have a conversation I would love to just hear him say like there's so many things that could be cleared up I feel like through conversation that never happens but I think there's also a world where we forget the San Francisco 49ers fully supported Colin Kaepernick's activism yeah that happened it was an NFL NFL team. Okay. Other NFL owners and coaches actively colluded to try to make sure he didn't get other employees.

That's how it seems to me, yeah. I mean, that's what investigative reporting claimed, right, from convos and interviews or whatever. That also happened. These are all documented things. What do we want Cap to say? Like, well, like right now, people are all saying different. I guess he couldn't come out.

Well, he could come out and say, I didn't sign an NDA. Right. You could say that. Now, if you did sign one, I suppose you wouldn't say anything. Well, and you couldn't. And you couldn't want to, yeah. You know? But generally over time, I've just felt like there have been different moments where I thought it would have been good for him to speak.

After the tryout where there was all kinds of talk about what happened at the tryout. Remember, the tryout moved. That just came up again recently. People like question. People have questioned him many times. And I just like feel like he could easily end a bunch of things by speaking. Because he's on. He's always been.

doing the right thing. If you're always doing the right thing, which I believe he always has been, to me, there's never harm in talking. You know what I mean? I hear you. There it is. What else did we miss? The Lotto, um, Doja Cat thing. What's this thing? Rosenberg loves this one. Oh yeah, you brought it up earlier than way. Well, I love it because I want to see them half naked this video, but it wasn't me. It hit my algorithm that there was controversy. All right, let's watch. Do we have? I was curious as to why people were finding the Lotto and Doja Cat video to be problematic. So I went to go why. it because you know I'm nosy or whatever so at first I'm like okay you got a bunch of dark skin niggas and du rags there's worse right there's like worse but it's not

great so you know all they all do them push-ups whatever you this does look like like found nigger footage I don't know this is a particularly crazy shot just a bunch of niggas in the background do a push-ups for you while you know you like skit stuff I was like okay okay okay that's normal like kind of problem you know it's like ah you know that's not great it's weird imagery niggas do not just like this anymore but it is whatever it's Like I get it the imagery is bad but then okay this is where I was actually like oh okay I like it's a good song but you know we get to doja's part so you know it's doja she looks

good or whatever it's like oh yeah okay doja cat now what the hell no ha ha ha doja girl why you're gonna prison this is this is where it jumps here why are you I saw that they responded and they were like oh you know we're trying to show like positive imagery of like attraction to dark skibbin why are you in a prison visitation room like like like Bro. Like... And that... So I watched the whole video. You know, here he is.

Feigning for the... For the unreachable light skin. I, you know... Genuinely, without the prison visitation seed, it would still be a little problem out. It would be like, okay, like the imagery of this looks kind of crazy, but, you know, that's crazy. There's no...

How is that supposed to be artistically interpreted? You know, it finishes out. Niggas was washing the car. Oh, man. I... If you didn't want this to look like your mandingo army, then you probably... There's people who could get away with this. Just not these two specifically...

Too blonde, light-skinned. ...have originally been Mulatto, and then you also can't be doing tag team with showing feet in racial chat, and then do the... And then have your mandiggo army cleaning your car. I... No, he's rally. That's Christian. No way around it.

That's Christian Divine on Instagram. X-I-A-N-D-I-V-Y-N-E. Very good content. No, there's no way around it. I hadn't seen it. There's no way around it. What he's saying is super valid. So I watched the whole video.

I did the research because I was willing to do that when I saw Joe Jen Lotto. I said, I'll sacrifice and watch this. And he covered it all. That is the video. Yeah. It is the two scenes he showed. He's not trying to. It is the video.

Like there's nothing else to it. It's them being very provocative with dark skin men with the jewelry and du rags doing pushups, then one in jail. It's, you know, I wasn't going to personally use the phrase mandingo army, but he summed it up well. Well, I mean, he added some comedic elements to him. His delivery is great. There's no way around it. There's no way around it. They missed it. Whoever shot it.

But why would you? Why would you? What, as he pointed out, as Christian pointed out, what would be the artistic? interpretation of it specifically being dark skin men all dressed like this all in this role then what would you be going for well it speaks to the ignorance of not only doja and lotto unfortunately who both people i like but it speaks to their ignorance of not understanding and the teams around them not understanding the the historical ramifications of the imagery that they're showing but how like they're just look they both may love dark skin men they're they're

They both may love that might be their preference. Bro, but if you... But why do they have to be in jail? And why do they have to be doing push-ups? And why do they have to be washing cars? Why do you have to be wearing duress? If you had them all serving you wearing traditional like... Geisha outfits and they were like on hands and knees serving.

Oh, but I love Asian women. Brough, that's not how you show loving. Right. That's just not it. Yeah, they missed it with that. They missed it and it's going to haunt them because Lotto, original name, Malato was a problem. That was a thing. That was a thing.

Doja, the chat room thing, the other... T-shirt, wearing a weird t-shirt. All of that stuff is going to keep coming back. You guys keep making... Like, you guys don't have anyone around you? That's like, you guys. Why don't people just go, hey, we're not going to do that? I don't understand that either, especially at the caliber of...

They're both huge. They're huge artists. Anyways, we got to go to Patreon, though. Oh, it's how? It's not. Okay. If you have it and you want to come to Patreon, well, I'm going to work. Yeah, you got to go.

We all right. We want you to stay involved, though, in Fridays and Family Fridays, which we do do on Patreon, but if you're not over there with us, send us an email so we can cover it here, too. Ebro-Laura-Rosemberg at Gmail. Send us an email, voice note. We get videos, too. So yeah, send it to us So we can include you in it because I think there's a number of people

And also people on Patreon And we'll talk about it on Patreon But at any rate Are y'all too cool or something to send us a voice No video or email? No, come on, man Just send it, please. I guess they're figuring out like, yo, we send y'all money

Y'all asking too much And now y'all want to email voice We're not programming your damn show You just want to feature you. Come on. All right, yeah, we'll see y'all over there. All right, peace, Rosenberger. Bye-bye.

So, yo, we got a we got to, I know we was talking about it earlier but um so now that we do the family Friday on patreon the emails the ebro la rozenberg at gmail emails the family Friday the free Friday freedom Friday Friday freedom all the titles we didn't do it this thing uh we don't get as many emails and voice notes because I guess you know more of the people that watch on YouTube you patroners you guys are probably like yo we giving y'all enough we give y'all money yeah but we in the chat They're like, yo, we're not sending voice notes and videos.

They're too cool for all that. Come on. Don't be too cool. We want you to involve. So we need to hear from you guys. So email us. King Lou, what's the Patreon vibes now? It's been two weeks where we just been throwing us on Patreon.

What's the vibe? Yeah, no, Patreon vibes are actually pretty good. We're getting more members coming in, you know? Nice. And all the comments have been very positive, especially with a lot of the content that we're doing. Okay. Love it. Looking good.

Yeah. All right. I'm into it. Let's see. Milagro, who called the other day, she left us a voice. No. Oh video. Let's look at Milagros video. I never met Milagra. Let's see what Milagro looking like. Hey. Hey, y'all. It's your girl, Millie. Coming you from Dallas, Texas. I am a Patreon as well. So shout out to Ero, Laura Rosenberg, for creating just an amazing platform community. It is such a good time over there.

If you're not a patron, subscribe. There you go. So I just wanted to come as I was thinking about music and how it's being shared. I know Ibrough was talking about it. I want to say on the Patreon, well, on the Patreon, he shared the TI album, but was talking about in a previous conversation how music is not being received through the normal media avenues. You know, we don't have the source. We aren't using magazines. We aren't using, um, uh, people aren't going and physically just buying albums and stuff like that. Or like, you know, street teams and promo teams are out here kind of putting it in your face. So these platforms that are, built by people who are heavily in the music industry and know about music and are currently and

still listening to music, put people on, share these things without having to have a monetary dollar associated with it because the information needs to be shared. I think so often people get caught up and like, oh, you know, I can only go in there, you know, when I'm talking about my promo and it's like, no, like, you should be putting people on to music, period, whether not they're sitting on your couch or not. Like, share the information, get the info out to people tell folks what they should be listening to, what is fabulous and what is garbaggio. Okay, don't get afraid of that. But yeah, just get back to sharing music.

And because if it wasn't for y'all, I wouldn't know about the TI album. So, well, that it was out because I knew he was making music. But I mean, come on. We got TI, really? Fire. Go check it out. And that is it. So just want to, you know, continue to do your thing.

Y'all are out here, staying militant, staying vigilant. You know, being a voice in our community. and we truly, truly love and appreciate y'all for all of your everything that y'all do. And, oh, just real quick, shout out to my business, House Fun Creations. So if you love some really dope crochet items, there you go. I'm your girl. Stay true. Peace.

Y'all support Milagro. Send that to T.I. So he knows that we've been supporting them on this program. Speaking of, though, you know, did you guys know the game and YG dropped the record before the versus last week? No. Mm-hmm. They sure did. Okay.

It's called, I see red people. You know, you know these guys. I see if I go find it. It's actually fire produced by the game in Swiss beat. I mean, by Swiss Beats and Timberlin. Oh. Let's go. I see red people.

Yeah. Let's see. All right, let's hear this. Swiss. I should have played this for Rosenberg. Oh yeah. Heel. Heel.

It's a half-lit road sitting in my ass, shit I kill it. It's a drink in my cup and my homie just God, should I spill it. Hey, let me get my shit off. First thing first, this rag ain't for play-play. I'm from west side bronty. I grew with the bay-base.

YG and dang. May-day. We don't do no acting. We ain't Craig and Day-Day. Red rag, asses who dang bang with a passion. Back to back in red and palis. Flick and switches in traffic

Do I got it on me Depending on who asks me Swirs on the beat Rough riding to a classic Now stop Drop Open up shot on you knickers This been a block on your knickers

Big Blood In a ugly We wish a nigga would Throw up blood for my dogs It's just like Man they're in it boy They in it boy It's a lot

It's in Well but it's also like I mean it's It sounds good It's generational Y'all know about this I, Rick Ross, off the Rick Ross album now. That's the album.

I think 50 was making fun of them because he only sold like a few thousand units or something. I saw that. And then people was trolling me on, what's that, platform? Twitter. Talk about Rick Ross is just cold. The algorithm ain't hating all Rick Rawls. Rick Rawls is this and that and the third. But I asked you and shout to Milagra.

car did you know Rick Ross put out of night yo I was just gonna say like I saw very little promo for Rick Ross this project yeah very little well but but back to my discussion where would you have saw it I mean I guess on social media like so you're

waiting for the algorithm to serve you up Rick Ross but Rick Ross is he really like he's not look T.I Rick Ross think of a lot of them they're just not I don't know that the I the

algorithm ain't moving their content around if it's not them doing some shenanigans of some sort. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Did you see any of like the big, you know, websites cover the album or mention it? Like the complexes. Did you see any of that? I probably passed over, to be honest. Yeah. But like I saw maybe like a post or something like that.

But to be honest, I'm like, didn't the first album come out two weeks ago? Like, that's what went through my head. Was it supposed to? I don't think so. I just think it in my head, I'm like, oh, I thought this was already out. Yeah. On the album, he got this joint with Leon Thomas. This is more relatable than ever.

Nifty Hustle, your name is Sean Bright. This is called Remarkable Hustle. Hateers get on the live when you take out one of mine. When you winning like Nipsey, boy, they want to gun you down. Task force, do me like the task force. Fast up or left from running out his air forces. He's hard. Great music.

Hebel niggins always something I want to envy me. Emulated like that, I don't look for sympathy. My name's set in stone for life, they gonna remember me. Remember me back when Katie had them tend to peace. Care of City booby boys, that's just to say the least. Drop top roads every day a breeze. Coke, so cold every chair freeze. If you overdose, may you rest in peace.

I pray for all the sinners, so let's begin with me. Is it safe to say that Rick Ross is one of the most underrated rappers within the last 15 years? Underrated how? What do you mean? People love Ross. I thought. I mean, he's had hits. People know he can make those amazing, like those type of records right there.

He's got another one with the dream. That's incredible, too. You know, people get caught up in his shenanigans online and they forget. Because he's just been consistent. Like, he's one of the most consistent artists within the last 15 years, I think. On my night gas are they really tear drops from my nightmares If I let her move home that was my choice two jets big guns we the jack boys Um follow me unless you want to speak business great phantom orange herb

Seats in it two seeded with three freaks in it old top floor three sweets in it Get up what she want I let her keep spending order me to brand zino with the sweet spinach We fell in love and I'm talking deep in it this real shit bro I mean jeep business Back to the real Yes, my reality With my East Coast chick Rolling Callie weed

Red blood stains on my Nike ass Like a grip walk to the bank from my chip I would say this This is what I will say I think there's too many records There's 19 records on it I think it's too many I also think

Like when you get When you try to do too much in one album in this era, like, unless you are a Drake. Or Chris Brown. Or even Chris Brown, a lot of people was critiquing this last album and saying he did too much on it. But nonetheless, he's on that level. I think it's hard because Ross's fans are older.

He never went and goofed out and did goofy things to get, you know, and changed his whole thing to chase 17-year-olds and 18-year-old. Yeah, I agree with that. Right? Like he's funny in his own way, but he was never out here, you know, wearing funny clothes to chase, you know what I'm saying, a younger audience or, you know, abandoning his other audience and chasing a new sound. He's still got the same sound. Yeah, but I think to some degree, people would say that maybe that was a mistake, right? Like some people are willing to bend over backwards to, you know, chase a new audience and change who they are. I think Ross is probably my age, right? I don't know how Ross is. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So when you're in your 50s, it's tough to put out music and have 18 to 24-year-olds who have all day and all night

to stream stuff and have all these, you know, different promotions for young people to stream your stuff. So you're going to catch them else, 50 cent making fun of Ross. You know what I'm saying? The internet making fun of Ross because he didn't move that many units, but it's great music on there. Pull up on Chad Hugo's new songs. Oh, that joint fire, bro.

With Sierra Wack and Lakeley. I was so happy to see La Caley 47 back. Yes. Where's she been, bro? I don't know. Remember she had that song, Money. No, she had a lot of records, bro. I love that.

And she had such a nice buzz. And Missy Elliott was, you know, champion her. So I'm just happy to see her back. They sound good together. And this beat us. And don't just see Chad back. Chad, what up? When I think La Caley originally from VA,

Tuba lived in Brooklyn. But when you? No, it's fire beat. People are going to clip. That beat, that's one of those beats and sounds. They're going to license the hell out of that joint. It's going to be in commercials. It's great for a music video.

The music video is ill. Especially those two creatives? Yeah. You know, T.R. Lack is going to bring it. Yo, shout out to Tyler, who came through and sat down with me on Apple Music, too. You know, she got her new project A-pop. They got some fire on it, too. Some Superfire.

If you like the pop South African sound. Say what? Yeah, I asked her what she learned, man. You know what I'm saying? Because I think, you know, people was like, we're still talking about this? And I was kind of like, South Africa is its own universe, man, of racial dynamics of socially engineered racial dynamics. America is its own universe of socially engineered racial dynamics. And so, you know, these are all like constructs that were created.

created by the colonizer. And so race in itself is different when you go from place to place. She's not from here. Yeah. She gets here. In South Africa, being black is tied to being Zulu, Kosa, and these other black African tribes. The colonizer down in South Africa, the people who, you know, enacted apartheid down there, separated individuals who were of certain mixes away from those in tribes,

like forced them to live in different neighborhoods and then pitted them against each other, giving some neighborhoods resources and others not, right? And so colored, and which were, these were people who were of mixed heritages of Dutch and Indian and black and other things. Right. We're seen as different than these other groups. So if you were to live in South Africa, would you be considered colored? No.

Because you're mixed? Because that's not my culture. Okay. Right? Like I know. No, but I'm saying if you were born and raised there. It would depend on my mix. Okay.

Like I know a kid, like for instance, Trevor Noah is mixed. He's not colored. Okay. Right? There's a kid I know down there. His name is, he's a rapper. He's dope. Shout to Shane Eagle.

He took. took me to he grew up in a neighborhood that is known it's called Robbie Ridge I did an interview with him on Apple Music you go while I went down South Africa years ago just to support hip hop and learn about this stuff took me to his neighborhood he's a mixed kid he has a black I believe a black mom white dad and um grew up in a colored neighborhood but is not colored like it's a very specific cultural thing they have uh I forget with the they have their own language They have their own, a lot of things. And so Tyler comes to America, she's colored.

They start asking her about her blackness. You know, that was on the breakfast club or whatever. Yeah. She hadn't been, she hadn't learned. No one taught her about that. I just feel like her team. Failed. They failed her.

No, no, no, they did. And at the time, I remember I was upset on her behalf. I called people who worked at the label, like, why would y'all allow her to walk into that scenario? and even come to a marketplace like America, right, and not understand the racialized dynamics of America versus South Africa. By the way, these are probably two of the most racialized kind of, you know, main, what's the way I want to articulate this? Like the most well-known racialized kind of dynamics on planet Earth, right?

Like South Africa, apartheid was very recent. Race in America is still a very, very, very hot topic. Like you could probably say that is, you know, as far as on planet Earth, the two you hear about most when dealing with, you know, xenophobia and immigration and race and all these things. Why would you guys let this girl? She was like 21. She was so young. She was like 20. She didn't know.

And so she's being asked about things. She's just not well versed. And then there was blowback. So anyway. I had a conversation with her shout to her and her team for allowing me to have that sit down. And I just asked her what she learned. What did you learn about racial dynamics and about the world? You know what I mean?

And she was just basically talking about how in the world she's seen as black. Her culture is colored. Like that's, you know, because by the way, happens to kids here in New York all the time, right? Black kids who are like, nah, I'm Dominican. And I'm like, until you get outside. side of New York. Yeah. These crackers don't care what type of Spanish you speak in my G.

You just a nigger that speak Spanish. You like the rest of us. You know what I'm saying? You can hold on all that if you want to. They don't care. Because once again, those racial dynamics weren't set up by us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I also think it's learning, right?

Because one of my, you know, one of my best friends, Iran, she's a black woman. She's Dominican. That's right. But she said growing up, you know, all she knew she was, I'm Dominican. And when she thought of, oh, you're black, she's thinking black American. That's right. She's like, it's not that I was denying my blackness.

It's that I automatically go to black American. I was like, no, I'm Dominican. Right. She's like, now I'm a proud black woman who is Dominican. Right. So she was like- But once again, that's not taught. Yes.

Matter of fact, what is taught when you immigrate to the United States is don't be like the black people. That's commonly taught. and celebrate it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Don't be like them. Don't associate with them.

Don't say you are them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially because they all, they all like feed off of the craziest stereotype. Well, not only that, but you're coming from nations that have covert racism. It wasn't overt like it was here in the United States, right? South America didn't have Jim Crow, right? And even now, as we learn about like Blancimento and the whitening of societies and all these things, right?

Like, you didn't have, you know, the, or you didn't have certain levels of activism and a government that was like actively working against and for, like this, you know what I mean? Like, a lot of it was more subversive. And so. And also just normalized. And normalized.

To them, it was like, that's just what it is. Yes. You know, so it, all of that to say, yeah, we had a good conversation with Tyler. And she's a cool young girl. She got a dope album. Oh, who else is a dope album? my head out and fucking wet.

Let me think. Since we're doing the music thing, we got some more emails. While I look for music, Lord, you got some emails. Let's see, we got a few. Okay. Let's go.

A couple of quick things. I really appreciate Ebro's breakdown of his dad's health battle, as my dad had a bad heart and diabetes and on dialysis before dying of multi-heart failure during COVID. As he can, I'm sorry,

this is, There's no punctuation. I'm trying to. Oh, Laura, Laura hate your guts. I'm trying to understand this. As I continue to be on dialysis for the last three years, okay,

so this person is on dialysis currently. You guys, every day during my sessions, you're with me. Oh, we appreciate that, and we are happy that we can keep you company during those tough sessions, man.

Quick thought about you guys over the weekend. How about you guys put some whole book concert coverage, your personal videos on Patreon. We would love to see some of that. Man, jazz has an hour. She took more video than me. I've been, didn't you ask me to send those? Somebody over here asked me to send those over and we've been,

I've fucked up and then sent them. All right. So maybe we should, I mean, if you guys still care, the Patreon's, like maybe we just do a video with some behind the scenes videos of the concerts. Absolutely. I do love Fought Friday. Moving to Patreon. Exclusive feels more intimate.

Speaking of the fan, where did King Louis get to get his Jay Z shirts? And what's his Twitter? King Louis, I do not know what T-shirt he's talking about. Did you get some fire bootlegs, though? No, I guess whatever I got is from the pop-up shop. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So I have the, like, the Jay-Z-30 one, and it might have been, I got the Ken I Live one, which I wore to the concert. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Okay, and they want to know what your Twitter is? Everything's breaking loose, so all the social media, breaking loose where you can find it. All right, and it says, finally thoughts on Jada Kis versus 38 Splash, and any, what's the news on signed shirts or signed mugs? All right, we'll get to that. Talk to him about the merch. This is our merch manager. Yes, but certain people want signed mugs and signed shirts. So it's a little bit more difficult than...

All right, we'll work on it. I have a marker in there and I have a shirt. So you know what, after the show, I'll have you sign it. And then we just got to get Rosenberg sign it. So why don't... What do we set? Why don't we set it up this way? Why don't...

Um... Hmm. Is there a way for us to, let's say, we sign 10 things? And then we give them away? We either give them away or I was going to say like, and we don't have to charge more, but maybe there's like a different link where people could order.

They could still pay for them or something. Okay. Or we could do giveaways. I don't know. I say we do giveaways. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I know I've gotten some people reaching out asking for that.

So, all right. So we'll talk about it. Maybe we'll do some giveaways. All right. Queens. Yo, shout to, um, damn, I lost it. What happened? Oh, oh, here it goes.

This is what Laura's listening to right now. And I used to the official when I was a little girl. You got to be real quiet on the creek. Sabapto. Saucy Santa got one. Got one. I just love how creative saucy's kick that is. This became as one of those viral audio trends.

And it was like, why that? Let's drop a song. Well, so let's be honest. Saucy shout to you, man. You got one. Laura and the gays. And my girls. And the girls.

I saw she, every time it comes up, she just giggles. Giggles. She's giggles. So, like, is it the creativity? Yes. But it's also, there's something you just love. And Rosenberg, too. Y'all both just love whatever the lingo is,

whatever the little. language y'all be using y'all love it do i do you love it it's fun that's all it is you love it i'm gonna tell you this that fire though this that fire though shout to young miami people being mad at young miami for being young miami i don't understand people being mad at hip-hop for hip-hop being in the street and dysfunctional and toxic like it's always had the element yes king low you know what i'm most impressed off of this song because it's primarily supposed to be a song for women but I'd be seeing both men and women just Well, the beach fire

The beach fire Also men is out here Boosting and stealing and scamming And so Let's just not act like everybody can't relate And what did you say to everyone? And they got goiard bags Who?

The dudes Yeah Doos have goyard bags What kind of bags? No I mean, I know I see the girls with like the big Goyard Tour Oh the backpacks

Right right right right right right right right right right Right right right right Yeah Yeah That's funny go. Do we got more emails, Laura Stiles? What you got?

Good morning, ELR fam. By now, I feel like I don't need an introduction because I've been to fought for so long. All right. This is J-Hood 718, aka DJ John's number one fan from back in the plantation days. Speaking of Juanito, you need to bring them over eventually, Laura, make it happen. But another reason I'm writing is because I'm always hearing y'all telling stories of people telling you that they didn't know you guys were back or where to listen. So here's an idea. Get a big-ass billboard in the middle of the Times Square or the subways or somewhere.

Now we talked about it. So people can see this. Whatever is cheaper, but I think people should know where you guys are at. I love that you guys have the Friday Patreon shows. Soon I'll be able to afford it. And then, you know, he just says peace to all of you guys. You guys have been living in New York for 10 plus years. And your spouses are New Yorkers.

You guys are New Yorkers. Peace, love, and blessings. All right, whatever you say. bro somebody else gonna say we're not New Yorkers yeah I always say listen New York York is my home and I love it that's all I can say my husband's in New Yorker my daughters in New Yorker right so what do you think I think that we're gonna do I think digital marketing we're gonna go we're gonna lean on hang on Lord hang on we talked about this earlier in a week we didn't play the record though

you been hearing about the 38 special hey day I wake I got new hate these niggas ride dick so my They got a due date Rap is too fake front and they have to move weight You joint the gang got 30 something That was too late you think 38 give a fuck what a rap dude make They had wag go on their plates we had Q states Niggas only care about views and how they shoes laced

You had a baby by a bum bitch that's a fool's mate To jean, I don't seem to white men jump especially He's falling down the escalator in the airport Niggas is cooking them and he's selling a comment So Spesch getting at Jim Jones. What is this? I don't know. I don't know the back story.

We'll go to King Lou in a second. Hey, yo. I came to talk to these kids on some grown shit. Follow no man, do your own shit. But please make sure you own shit. Don't have a lot of chains with no creeds or some Jim Jones shit. Yo, Jim, I got a bone to pick. That's some whole shit.

about how another nigger clothes fit when your house on the four clothes list he lost his crib at old six and this nigger still homesick what i really don't get you won't be a street nigger so bad that you got al-po old bitch but poe said she'll blow dick what poe says she don't blow dick man this nigger talking like a bone but ain't given out no joan nigger you can't even go home and get a blow jaw before you made cash off rap? What was your jaw? Jim story faker than the one fat Joe wrong. And yo bra face type balance. Without that body work, that bitch would be shaped like callous. Better replace some steaks for some late night salads. No matter how much you hate, you can't take my talent.

You're talking to a real man with skilled hands. I took kilograms and bill brands. Got a flow that a feel stands. Only reason. Kiss eating because he fat jokes real man So this actually So this actually started from a feature that they did on Benny Butchers track Kiss and Spesh Yeah And Spash was going around saying he got the best verse of it I think Benny and also agree that like special had the best verse on that track since then he was kind of trying to get another verse from jada on one of his songs yeah all right i did hear this okay jada wouldn't do it he kept talking smack and i think jim jones on his show was trying to like defend jada kind of like where this guy coming from like everybody loves his kid's how that's how old guy yeah so that's where we're at now i'm gonna say i'm gonna say this though

They work in the promo. Yeah, he's doing a good job. Nah, listen, Spesh working the promo. You know, Fat Joe and Jada, they got that aroma record with Stove God Cooks. That shit is fire. Yeah, and that record, I think Jada shot back. Yeah, that's the one that where he shot back, yeah.

So, um, but you know, so that's where it's at, Laura, do you care? I don't, I don't. Were you entertained? I don't. I just felt when I said, I was like, why is this necessary? Like, why? Because cats like talking shit. Yeah, and they're going to take it to records.

I don't, you know, this is just, this is just motherfuckers talking shit, the same way we talk shit about people. You know what I'm saying? That we either have an issue with or, hey, say something slick. Hell, Rosenberg was arguing with Kyle Kuzma the other day. I mean, facts. You know what I mean? So it happens sometimes.

Let's not act holier than thou, like it don't go down. You know what I mean? All right. Well, we haven't hit any Family Friday stuff. Oh, I got some, you got some photos? I do, because, you know, I was in Japan for a little family vacation. So I have a couple photos. It's a rare condition this day and age to read any good news on the newspaper page.

And love and tradition of the grand design, some people say it's even harder to find. Well, there must be some magic clue inside this gentle wall. Because all I see is a towel of dreams. What you got, Laura, from? Oh, there they are. Japan. So where is this? Okay, so these pictures are from Okinawa,

which is the islands right outside of, they're part of Japan. They're like, people call it the Hawaii. That's where Mr. Miyagi's from. Yeah, the Hawaii of Japan. Now is it on the west side of Japan or the east side of Japan? Isn't it in between China and Japan? Like in that?

I don't remember, I don't remember you, bro. Look it up. Look it up. But what I think is funny is that, you know, in true Kenza fashion, she found the scary shark. You know? And she insisted posing with the scary shark. And I believe the other photo is, that was actually in Tokyo, I think. But yeah, no, Okinawa was fire, guys.

So me and Ricardo, when we started dating, we would travel a lot. And one of the things that we discussed as a family, I was like, yo, when I have a baby, we're going to continue doing the things that we love to do. Yeah, Okinawa is south of Japan. Okay, okay, okay. Like, yeah, no, it's, it's south. Yeah, it's about a two-hour flights. It's trying to see.

Two-hour flight from Tokyo. Yeah, it's south. So it's definitely, I mean, yeah, technically between China and it's like here. So Japan's here and China's there. So it's out there, yes. It's absolutely beautiful. it is very very colorful I mean I did see a lot of American folks there because of the the base there they have their own like cuisine like Okinawa noodles and soft serve it was

super dope the people were amazing would you go back absolutely I would absolutely go back and it's more this is more of a vacation vibe than like a Tokyo or something yes yes yes it's like it's you're by the beach and the beach is absolutely gorgeous we hit a a couple of restaurants. Do you have the video of Kenza getting busy at the restaurant? You know, Kenza had to join a little dance party. You see your girl right there, you bro? Hey. They have a little dance party in the restaurant. Just because?

Yes. Look, they're joining it. We too. We too. I don't know what they're saying, but I mean. What song is that? Is that like a popular song? No, I don't know. It's a local. Kids song or like a... You didn't ask some questions? It's if you're happy or you know it.

It sounded like it. I saw it in our 40-year-old virgin. Look at this guy, Rassan. I love this, Rassad. The fact toys, the Snapple fact. I love it. No, I love that. And it was a lot of funny, bro.

So we had a really good time. And Okinawa is a place that we always wanted to go. So we put it on our little bucket list and we plan it. And we hit out. And then we spent a couple days in Tokyo, too, which were absolutely fantastic. You know, Tokyo is a special place. Love Tokyo.

Yeah. Laura, Laura, Laura could do all of that all the time. Travel? No, the sites of like Tokyo and Asia. I after a little while, I'm like, all right, y'all, I'm cool. I'm cool. Y'all love a ramen noodle order out of a vending machine. Oh, man, I did it a couple times.

It was cool. But they, yo, they love doing it. Because there's different ones, you know what I mean? I'm not, but I'm also not a big. soupy noodle guy okay full style so then you know you can give me 9,000 different versions of rum and I'll be like it's cool now the one that you saw it's like you put your order in the vending machine but then you give the ticket to the man and he makes it like you make it seem like it's just water like it's a cup

in a vending machine the water and no it's like all had made and delicious and nutritious it is it is you know but Japan is fires we had a great time I love Japan man yeah I really do and people tell me all the time like I don't know how you guys do it with the family. You just plan it. It's not, you don't, it's not as expensive as you think. And all you've got to do is planted. You guys spend a lot of money going to like Orlando for Disneyland.

And I bet you my trip to Japan was cheaper than what you spent there. The toughest thing about getting to Asia is the flight. Yeah. Getting over there. Like that's probably the most expensive piece. Yeah. Tokyo is definitely expensive. It is.

But you can find hotels that are affordable. You can find places to eat that are affordable. So. And once you get there, everything is mad convenient. And it's super safe. Yeah. So yeah. You know, so next time my bucket list, I've been thinking about this a lot.

I haven't been to Guatemala since I was a teenager. So go. And now I'm like, I feel like I need to go. You can get there, mad cheap. Yeah. I'm going to take Kenza to reconnect with the family. I think that's going to be my next year. So one of the crazy things, I don't know if I sent you this, but, you know, the

the Gadifuna. Yeah. down in Honduras and Guatemala are dealing with like, I guess they have a new president in Honduras that's super Trumpy. And you know they got a new Trumpy president-elect in Colombia now too. Y'all know that, right? Yeah. So they're making sure that they get their fangs into South America nice and deep.

But anyway, they're taking the land from the Gadifuna. And to the point where there's news stories coming out of Central and America, um, that are basically like white people showing up with guns. Yeah. And pulling them on the indigenous people down there and basically like, yo, if you don't get off this land, we're going to kill you. And they're like, no, this is like our government protected land. No, there's a lot of craziness that's going on in central and South America.

I think even a couple years ago, I told you guys that there was this, uh, documentary. I think, I think it's on vice about the church of latter day saints in Utah. Mm. All of a sudden, they claim that whatever they're calling it. is in Tikal, Guatemala. Tikal is where all the ancient ruins are. If you look it up, the ancient ruins are one of the most beautiful places.

Like I've been with when my dad was alive, it was very important. We took a really beautiful trip up there because he's like, you need to know where you come from. So they're now just going up there and literally just taking land. And some of these greedy government officials

are letting them. Yeah, because they're getting paid on the other side. Absolutely. And then they want to protect, they want to protect the image of their church. and their whole faith by claiming this is some sort of spiritual calling when really it's just a land grab and you're paying the government on the inside and the government as usual they don't care about indigenous people you know Guatemala has it's I remember going to the supermarkets I've mentioned that before with my mom and I was like mom what other language is this you know she's like oh it's Kichet which is a Mayan language but there's over 30 languages spoken and subcultures you know what I mean but ever ever since I can remember it has has been a horrible treatment of them. So it's easy for them to just, oh, we don't care about them.

Go ahead. I'll take the money and you take the land. Well, yeah, because everybody's going to, well, not everybody, but many people in power are in power because they care about money. Yeah. Right. And people who care about money empower other people who care about money. You'll see that all the time.

So if that's not your motivating factor and you're wondering how things get done, it's because people who only care about money, put other people in power who also only care about money. That's how they continue to do what they do. Yeah. And then when it comes to the Garifuna community, I don't know about the politics of what's happening in Honduras, even though I believe you, the same in Guatemala. Of course, you think they're going to be protected? No. Absolutely not. So, no, especially if there ain't no money in it. Yeah. What's the upside? Yeah. But anyway, the trip was fantastic. So highly recommend to anyone. Japan. Japan. And okay, shout to Okinawa also. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I hear great things about it.

Um, so, uh, our young, our, our young Salasi, uh, knows how to work the phone and knows how to work the camera. Let's look at some pictures from Salasi. Through her eyes. Ha, ha ha. She, does she say cheese, daddy? Yeah, she's like, Daddy tape picture. But she took that one to me and Issa. Okay.

She took that one of Issa. That's pretty good. See what else we got. Oh, there you go. I love these. Yeah. Oh, it's a lot of these. Now, she, I don't have them.

I think her mom has them in her phone because she grabs her mom's phone. Her mom, but she does grab some good pictures, too. Like, she's got a dope one I saw of, that I don't have in my phone of a bee on a flower. Okay. Where she was like, you know what I mean? Like, real, you know who else gets great pictures? Issa's picture game, I don't have, like, it wouldn't even, if I showed you if I showed you, you'd be, you guys would be like, so what, she took off, but she's 11, of course.

But no, she's really captured some great scenic, like sunsets and stuff like this that she's into. I love that. So, yeah. Now, you got to get her one of those little cameras, I bro. I had one for Kenza. It's at, so Celassigo Rock around taking pictures and the prints on receipt paper. It's black and white, but it's cool. Well, so she's already beyond that.

That was back in the day, Laura. That, Laura, that's already back in the day. Now they have phones, bro. They have kid phones that are like, they look like phones. Okay. and they touch screen, swipe. Okay. And has a camera, can take a photo in it, delete the photo, all of this.

So someone bought it for her, because we didn't buy it for her. And then her mom opened it up and gave it to her like six months ago. I went and hid that joint. I'm about to, I already know where I got to, I just reminded myself, I got to throw it away. See, but no, this is an actual little, like a kind of like a polarity camera. Well, I guess what I'm saying is just give her a real camera that takes like real digital photos. Yeah. It has the screen on the back, but it's a camera.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The black and white printout, she ain't. I had one of those for Issa. It's cute. It's cute. But yeah, I feel you on the phone. Let's focus on the actual camera. Let's just focus on a camera.

That's an actual camera and let her have a field day with it. Do you have Salasi on the carousel for the, for the, this is a, I was going to get it. I was going to get it. What are you riding? What is it? She chose the beaver. A beaver?

A be a pepper. Sarah? I think they're related. Look at her. She's all proud like your family style. It's a new one. Steve Winwood jamming on the carousel. Salasi, what you doing?

You're on the carousel? Such a sweetheart. She chose a wolf that time. We stayed on it. on it she went around I think twice all her mom could say when I showed her these videos was she's touching that dirty pole with her hands I'm like she's got we gotta do stuff mom come on you're like I wiped her hands afterwards she's fine yeah yeah yeah yeah no kids get dirty that's probably mom her mom's gonna watch this and be like that's why she got

RSV now you out on that dirty ass That's Carazette. Now, they were sick this week. Mom and Salasi both got sick. Mom had strep and RSV. There's been strep in the house, and I've been dodging it. I don't know how I've been dodging it.

Three months on and off. You're so looking because I know Salasi kisses you, kisses you, hugs you, and all that. I haven't got sick. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe I got it right now. Y'all getting it right now. Thanks.

No problem. Go get checked out. Go take a test. Anyway, Family Friday was a gem, man Appreciate y'all, man See y'all next week On some housekeeper is, so we're going to get to the We're going to figure out the

Signed memorabilia We're going to figure out How to talk about music some more There was something else we were trying to figure out For Patreon Oh well, the Patreon earlier this week was live What did you say there? Is it the emails you wanted to figure out?

Oh yeah, yeah, we talked about that earlier making sure y'all email in if you want to be a part of family Friday we need emails and voice notes but it feels like the people who mostly just do to youtube not to patreon or more into the emails right so maybe we read a couple before before the patreon and we're going to be doing to the guy that emailed about some marketing we've been thinking about billboards and all this sort of thing but we also probably are going to do digital marketing first yeah i think so i think that's the wave and measure that and see what kind of impact that has on subscribers as we continue to grow this thing because I don't see us I don't see us being in a hurry per se you know what I mean

like we're doing good bills are getting paid um you know advertisers are coming in um y'all doing the patreon thing we sell y'all buying the merch which we appreciate you know what I'm saying y'all support and so we're chilling you know what I mean I don't think we I don't think we thought we was going to do like you know a gazillion million Lou Lou thought we was going to do 100,000 by July I told them, you know, I should have, I should have really stuck them to the bet. What was the bed? I don't know. They wanted to bet me for a second.

We're pacing that way, but I, you know, slow down. Oh, and then next week, I'm going to announce a merch drop, which will drop first for Patreon. Just letting you know. And this is, let's just say it's not a shirt. Oh. I'm excited about it. Not a shirt. Not a shirt.

Okay. So we'll drop it on Patreon first and then we'll let everybody else have a little some. something. All right. Well, we'll see y'all next week, man. Peace. Don't call it a podcast.