The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 155.) The Case Against Aaron Rodgers (8/4/26)

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are discussing Kendrick Lamar, Saucy Santana celebrating being used in ICE video, Aaron Rodgers on the McAfee Show, Super Chat, Aaron Rodgers dissed Tom Brady, Election Day today in Michigan and so much more! (8/4/26) Hear more of the show on Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, it's a quick clip. It's just hilarious. Aaron Rogers. Now, that's what I'm focusing. Shook the building yesterday. It did something. He did something. I mean, people were talking about it.

You know, I got hype off some new black movies coming out, so you know, I like a good movie trailer, watch together. You know what I mean? Marshall Ali movie coming out. Let's see. What else we got up there, Laura Stiles, that you want to cover today? Well, in the rundown, you know, We're having a couple of throwback concerts that are coming back, and people are very excited about.

So I'll tell you about two artists that we do love and projects that we absolutely love that are hitting the road. And definitely coming to New York City. And then there's some Ariana Grande controversy that makes me sad. Did you guys see the Kendrick Lamar story by any chance? About him surprising the little boy who lost both his arms? No.

You didn't see that. No. Yo, you know what was crazy about that story? I sent it over, and I was like, wow. And it was a few days old. I think it was sometime last week. Louis, can you get, it was just Friday, just Friday. And so Kendrick Lamar, surprised a 7-year-old Detroit boy named Ramel Fraser Jr.

With a video call just months after the boy lost both his arms and a dog attack. Damn. Horrible. He returned home from the hospital. And so this was his birthday wish to hear from Kendrick Lamar. So Kendrick called him. Kendrick invited him out to LA so they can meet in person

and just gave him positive words you know what I mean? Dope story. And I was like, wow I figured like this would be more places but you know what we don't really do good news in hip hop like that. It doesn't do quote unquote and I'm talking about

kids like my friends that are writers it doesn't do well. People like the car crash the doom and gloom. If it bleeds it leads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and I put that out there for all of us. Yesterday on the program, we were talking about how we're just being played with by the algorithm.

We're being played by all of these corporations that play with our emotions all day. And I left the show feeling like, but some of this is our fault. Well, of course. Right? Like, yes, these corporations are going to give us what we're buying. They're going to give us what we're engaging with.

Oh, you're going to get, oh, you love this. We're going to eat more of this. We're going to eat more of this. For sure. So. But we're also. But we're also programmed to like the things that we then like. Right. It's like a vicious cycle.

Correct. Because, yeah, we're taught. This is dope. Don't you like this? Doesn't this feel good? Ooh, that does feel good. Or it's stuff that it's almost like visceral. You're not even choosing to like it.

You like. But it's so shocking that you. Do I like fights? Right. Not really. They sometimes really alarms me. And I'm like sad. But you didn't swipe away fast enough.

Right. It's a fight. It's a fight. It's a fight. It's a fight. And it's a fight. You got to see it. I want to see who won.

That's, and by the way, that I didn't know that Kendrick story. Goodbye, Kendrick. And also another story of that means there was some owner who's an a-ho. Right. Some owner's an a-ho. I don't know whose dog it was, but someone's an a-ho. I just heard there was an attacking dog. I think it was in Long Island.

Maybe it was Queens over the weekend. I heard on 10-10 wins. And the owner's dog attacked a kid. And then the owner just ran and grabbed the dog and nobody can find the owner. And I'm really, I'm really becoming more and more just like when people, and I don't, honestly, I don't give a damn if people get offended that they think like I don't like their breed. I'm sorry, I don't care if your dog doesn't know or care if I'm a fan of their breed. It's not about that.

It's irrelevant. Whenever now I see people walking down the street with a big ass pit bull or Rottweiler in an area that is like crowded with other people, I'm just like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? What is the like if you live off on a farm you really have your own space Knock yourself out but like when you're in a shared communal place with a dog that has the capability of maiming someone unless you are doing extreme work to make sure your dog is on point I'm really just not good with it well I think it's the I think in my experience it's always been owners who

create an atmosphere for the dog to be like that Because those dogs aren't natural Like in the dog I've had a pit I've never had a rot I've definitely I've had You know wolf terrier Alaska Malamute

Like these dogs who can definitely Harm people And that's not their energy Unless like Because people teach their dogs To be aggressive Yeah Like they're not naturally

But also where were you living Where you were living in a house I was living in a house It was outside Yeah and it had And but you still had to like Spend time with your animal Of course

Of course, of course. But you walking out tight hallways? When it comes to pits, it's always like just for show. I always said, I told you, I used to live in East Harlem. I used to go to the ASPCA and the dog shelter, and people would volunteer their time to walk dogs there. All of them were abandoned pits. All of them.

You would go in there, you would see like 10 because people get them for show because look, it looks good. He looks mean. And then afterwards, when things really hit, you know, when things get crazy, They're like, yeah, we can't handle this. And then there's this poor pit abandoned. They're all, that's all.

And then they get, and then a lot of people adopt animals that were given up on. That's right. Because they were, they fill the adoption places. The people might have given them, given up on them because they took bad care of them already. That's right. So now you're telling me, we can, just be clear, we can't deal with humans with mental problems. Okay? We can't as a society.

You're telling me that the kind of people who are just grabbing these dogs are capable to deal with the mental trauma of a pit bull? Okay. I just stay out. Now I just walk the other direction. I just, I'm not playing games with my little, my little demure dog. And because also if you're in tight spaces,

sometimes dogs feel threatened by nothing. Yeah. Just because, like, you accidentally walked by each other. Yeah, I was in the elevator the other day and somebody had like a beautiful golden retriever that I've seen many times, but I guess it was like, his father who was a lot older was walking the dog. You know, the dog like lunged at me.

And like, I know it's a friendly animal, but enough to almost knock me out. Right, and had you not been you and known, you know what I mean? And I was like, yo, sir, I was like, you have to really hold on to him because you never know.

And he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I'm like, and I'm looking at him like, you can't, you can't control the dog. Remember the husky that was living next door to me in the apartment that shall not be named? Yeah. That thing was lunging every beautiful dog. They had no control over it.

Well, but you have to spend time and you have to train your animals, God. And you don't, and also how strong are you? Yes. Well, that's the other part. You have a 100-pound dog, 120-pound dogs. And you're a hundred-pound person. Like, what are we doing?

That's right. That's right. There's a lot of interesting news I'm seeing. And I don't know if you guys saw this. I don't know if we have this clip, but it says, Saucy Santana dragged after celebrating song placement in White House ice video.

I don't know. I don't know. You know how the White House just snatches people's songs and uses him for whatever. Saucy Santana got hype, probably. Yeah. And then he took the video down. Reposted it.

And after people started coming for him. for saucy. Was he mocking it, sort of having fun with it? I didn't see the video. I didn't know if you guys had song on that. I don't know. Sink that. I don't know.

Not quite sure. But I've seen, you know, I've seen people get a lot of heat because I think Bia went through something like that too. Some people reposted and they don't care. They just see it like, oh, it's a White House repost. You know what they're some. And there's also, look, I think I saw last week or the week before that, they took a Kendrick song.

And I don't know if these are really coming from the White House or people are just making them and throwing them on the internet because when I went and looked, I didn't see it on any White House site. But nonetheless, it was out there. And I wonder if artists, instead of making a big stink on social media about getting it snatched down or whatever, they just have their people call and it's kind of a behind the scenes thing, it was like, hey, you don't have the right to use this.

Instead of making a big stink about it. Because as you know, right now, most people are running afraid of this White House and standing up to it. They don't want to smoke at all. I mean, hell, if you have major broadcast networks, if you're signed to a record label, whatever, most people are running from this white house. Yeah, if you were the person who was in charge of disease control and health, you might be shook. You might not want to mess around with them. You might plead the fifth.

You might plead the fifth over and over again because you cannot risk any giving them any information so they can have you literally, you know, I don't know, hung in town square. Right. Well, I think what you're bringing up and transitioning to is Aaron Rogers, yesterday on ESPN sitting with, what's the? Well, he was on the McAfee Show. On the McAfee. Yeah, which is on the McAfee. It's on the SPN.

Oh, okay, okay. I didn't know if there was like a set. I thought it was on ESPN. I didn't know maybe he did a separate thing also. No, I'm just pointing out like when it comes to Rogers, it's not like he was on Sports Center. He was on Macafee. He wouldn't do that is what you're saying.

He would probably, I don't know. He would probably claim that he would. He might. He might. but McAvey is the show he's always done. Okay. Okay. Let's have a look.

Maybe the years will pass. Now I'm going to plead the fifth. Okay. Okay. Like that. I love that guy. Like that absolute coward, Tony Fas. Absolute scholar.

Are it's back, baby. Are you kidding me? Yeah. 111 times. You got a pardon and you're in front and you pleaded over a hundred times at the White House. What are you scared of, Tony? I thought you were the science. Yeah.

I am science. get up there and he can't answer a question. Yeah. What do we doing? And how much time did the network spend to that? How much time did they spend on my responses every week, on my vaccination status on Taylor and Travis? Okay. Okay.

All right. I'll work backwards. How much time did the network spend on that? How much time did ESPN spend on Tony Fauci's time in front of Congress last week? I'm going to go a zero. Okay. I'm going to go with zero. Because I was like, how much?

I'm going to go with the sports network did not cover in 2026 what Anthony Fauci was saying to Congress. That's what I'm going with. Okay. Okay? Because why would they cover it at all? So you just said, how much time did they spend talking about me related to COVID, an NFL quarterback who lied about his status because he's a coward, lied as the team. leader about his status and what he was doing, how much time was spent on the sports network during COVID talking about the quarterback who lied versus Anthony Fauci and 20, they spent no time

on it, sir, because Anthony Fauci has nothing to do with sports anymore in any way whatsoever. You did as the quarterback who wasn't completely upfront about what you were doing with your COVID status and how you were treating yourself. And the idea that a man who is paid to play a game, a kid's game, for a living. A man who is so gutless, we don't know if his wife is real. No one's seen the wife. Have you seen the wife?

No, but Manta Teo? This is where we're going? What do you mean? Oh, that he's Manti Tao? I don't know. Aaron Rogers claims he's married. Yeah, but wait. No, no, no one's seen your wife.

Yeah, but how do we give him? Because you're calling other people coward. Oh, God, okay, okay. You can't even send out a picture to say that you marry another human. Maybe he wants it to be private or something, man. Cool, no problem. Don't call the man who has to fear for his life in front of a deranged government right now. He's been, you don't have to like Anthony Fauci.

I don't really care. I don't spend all my time at this point thinking about Anthony Fauci. But I know that if I were him and I had done my job completely right, like I'm just trying my best. Let's just assume he did it completely right. trying my best to keep Americans healthy. This is what I think we should do. I don't know if you remember me saying this on the show. The second Biden was on his way out of office,

I would have moved out of the country. So I want to talk coward. You would have never seen me again. Gone. He lives in Washington. They're taking pictures of him at his front door. That's right. He has a family.

He could die any day, God forbid. And you're a football player who's scared to share a picture with your wife. of your wife and you're calling him a coward that's great point i mean look i i don't i i see where erin rogers in his chaos of how he thinks would be upset because of the scrutiny that he got even though to your point right he he lied and one didn't want to be forthright during the thing and look i recall that time people were listen if you're afraid of taking something that was foreign and you were being forced to take you, I get the fear, right? Like these athletes.

Not being into the vaccine. Not being into the vaccine, being afraid. Hey, man, I spent a lot of money on my body. I don't know what this is. Whatever's going on. I get it. As we sit here today, I see Aaron Rogers as someone who clearly is still pained by whatever he went through at the time. That's what I see.

It's someone who's trying to get his lick back. But the lickback would be more. appropriate if he had manned up said everything you said and said as a result i can't play well i guess well i'm not taking your vaccine well don't say you're doing it on your own he he basically started but here's where i'm going today though right is what erin rogers went through anthony fouchy's fault why is why is anthony fouchy who had who is hired to do a job right which was figure out a way to keep most people alive, right? We talked at the time during COVID about the fact that any new drug that comes out,

if you do any research on it, hundreds of thousands of people die, right? When pharmaceuticals and governments, I mean, it was a global pandemic for Christ's say. Millions of people died. Millions of people died. One that could have been avoided, but the current administration, which is now still there, the leader, Trump is still the president now, got the job back. He didn't have people in position to deal with the potential of this pandemic. Like, this is all facts. It's not like,

it's not like anything. This is, there was someone who was responsible. So now you say, hey, who is our disease infectious disease specialist that deals with this sort of thing? Oh, his name's Anthony Fauci. He's been here for multiple administrations. It's not a political job. It's just, this is what he does. Figure this out, solve this problem. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Is science in ever-evolving thing where they come up with new things or find things that work better than the thing they thought last month?

Absolutely. But I mean, for specifically Aaron Rogers, did Aaron Rogers and Fauci have some sort of exchange? Did Fauci go directly at Aaron Rogers? No, no. No. So why is Aaron Rogers mad at Fauci? It's my question.

Because when he's being asked questions about this subject that Aaron Rogers sees himself as being a tantal packed over. Okay. As the man in power who's already been pardoned, he was unwilling to say anything else. So he's saying like how gutless you are that you made all these decisions.

I paid. I paid this price. And now you're in a position in theory where you can talk. And again, this is why someone. But once again, but why are you mad at Foucher? We're on the other side of the thing. So are we, are we mad at Fouch?

It's an unreasonable person. Right. but are we mad at Fauci that it got figured out? Like, yes, people lost their lives. We all had family members. My brother, my brother almost died because of COVID. Not because of the vaccine, because of COVID. The COVID part could have been prevented.

We reacted late like it's documented. The president of the United States, who was Donald Trump at the time, responded slow, didn't take it serious, didn't do a bunch of stuff. They're also mad at Fauci, though, because of the origin story of COVID. and believe that he's involved in the origin story of it being at a lab in China and lying about that as well. There's diseases in labs all. Don't people know that there's diseases in labs all over the world right now? They think that's Fauci. They think Fauci is the guy who's off doing these different things. And then he's like, Fauci dropped the bottle and COVID spread. And then he was like, oh, perfect. I'll make up a vaccine to kill people.

And that's what I assume they must think. And they're also mad at the mandates, though. How dare you strip me of my personal rights? I had to wear a mask. I'm traumatized that I had to wear a mask. Well, no, and they'll also say this stuff about, and this is probably where it gets a little more serious, and I'd give more credence to people's sadness about it.

I wasn't allowed to be in a room when someone died. Okay. I wasn't allowed to be in a room when someone was born. What were people supposed to do not have restrictions and hospitals around sick people? I get it. It's sad that you didn't get to be. By the way, it's terrible.

It's terrible. It's terrible. People seem to forget the hundreds of people that were in fridges outside. Hundreds. Yeah. Thousands. They for, I mean, I'm just talking about New York City. Bro, R.FK Jr., it was just on TV talking about that emergency rooms were empty during COVID.

They are lying to their face. Remember, we were taking phone calls from EMS workers and people who were like driving these trucks and picking up dead bodies from people. homes and going in the homes finding dead bodies who were just older people who nobody could go chucking like this was really happening in new york city so i i i hear you and i was equally frustrated looking at erin rogers who i'm just trying to understand you bro but i'm like who are we actually mad i guess that's the whole fouchy thing i know people want to blame someone right i just don't feel like fouchy's the blame completely because adults these are adults who you would

think are having some sort of reasonable thought and look at themselves and look at the what they're not and what i also look at like you know doctors when you know infectious disease specialist i can't imagine what the job is we have an emergency fix it it's like okay here's what we know how to do here's the information we have and by the way they overall did pretty good like we act as if the vaccine. Why did we concede that the vaccine was a failure? I do not understand. Millions and millions. You weren't proved right, Aaron Rogers.

The vaccine saved millions of lives. It still is right now. No vaccine is one size fits all. Yes, people are going to have side effects. People are allergic to different things. Some people can't take it. And I just do not understand like, yo, the pandemic ended. Right?

We're going to say it ended because of vaccine. scenes. But here he is. So he says one thing in there, too. He goes, um, actually, did you pause it? You could see started. Keep going. There's more. Real Canadian Superstore has everything you need this back to school season. Save on lunchbox savers like Ziggy's sliced deli meat products for always 375.

And get life brand pure Vita shampoo or conditioner for $8 each. At Real Canadian Superstore, when you're ready, we're ready with a whole world and more. wedding did they do even a minute did they do even a minute did they do even a minute on tony fouchy now i don't think i've heard anything but they didn't but on that and there was another scandal this off season too involving a voter for MVP for coach of the year how much time do you did your network spend what's your camp did your network spend on network i wish i was that how much time did you go back to fouchie go back to fouchie yeah go back to the coward tony fouchie yeah go back to the coward tony fouchie who's spending the entire time writing in his diary about how fun it is to be famous you got to be

kidding me okay so on that note what are you going to say about me now what are you going to say about me now seriously what are they going to say about me now now now that you can't talk about the covid stuff because obviously it was it was made you know in a lab in china that's like not even questionable oh it's not a question he is an absolute criminal he's a criminal i'm on i'm on good terms of my family. I'm on good terms of my family. What are you going to say now? I think that's right. It's been a fun ride for you. It's been a great, great life and a great career. And it's nice to be sitting on this side now, especially I have that coward played the fifth over a hundred times. I thought you had a pardon there. Tony, why couldn't you answer one

question the entire time? I got to give flowers to Stephen A. Smith, my old friend Stephen A, because he was man enough to actually admit and apologize to Kyrie Irvin. So I got to give a shout out to my guy, Stephen A. You are not a coward. I appreciate you. So I remember during COVID, people were, you know,

we were talking about it being manufactured in the lab, and it was a science experiment. And I remember even back in the day during AIDS, like I remember my dad and people talking about AIDS being something manufactured to attack. Yeah. The LGBTQ community, the black community like it was manufacturing lab ain't away sure I remember those

conversations yeah right and um I believe it was my uncle at the time was like yeah but people are actually dying so we got to figure this out like let's say the government did create it okay what you're gonna do how you're gonna stop it what's your solution well it's here now so you're blaming for everything so Fauci did are they saying he made the disease I wait he sounds like you're saying well no But I just wanted to address that because a lot of times, I don't know what Aaron Rogers intent by saying we found out it was made in the lab. Does that mean people didn't die?

No. It means people did die. So let's say governments conspired to do a mass global pandemic and kill millions of people. Let's assume that's the case. What were you going to do to stop it? And do you think that the guy that they were talking to last week was the mastermind of the entire operation? He's the one. You think the guy Anthony Fauci planned the whole thing.

Is that what you think? Okay. And let's say you do think that. What are you going to do? Did you, did you, did you person that needed a vaccine, take the vaccine so that they couldn't get sick? Yeah, but no. But here's why it doesn't work. Because if you actually are dumb enough to believe Anthony Fauci is the one who created it,

well, that gives you obviously now the right to be angry at him and not believe his vaccine at all because he was actually. But it wasn't even his. It's not his vaccine. But that's, but they're saying it's his COVID and his vaccine. But that's just not how. science works it's not his they don't believe in science so what do you expect well I mean if you don't believe he he's just sitting here so anyway I just wanted to look I I I to everyone's point sitting at this table I'm sure people calling right now you could be mad at whoever

you want to be mad at okay you could be mad at Trump you could be mad at Fauci you could be mad at Biden you could be mad at Wuhan China you could be mad at the pangolins that people we're eating you can be mad whatever the thing is that you're mad about right you can be mad at all once people start dying i'm just the kind of person that's like hey we got to figure out a solution that works for most people so that more people don't die right and at the time that solution wasn't do nothing yeah no the solution wasn't do nothing and wait and wait for for you to get comfortable I'll never forget the fight. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I guess, and I'm oversimplifying it, but that's what the, you had options on the table. Figure out a vaccine, do nothing. Wear a mask to protect yourself so it doesn't spread like these were the options. I'll never forget the conversation I had with a friend of mine who I've been friends with for years. Actually, I was about to visit her. She lives in England. I was about to visit her right before the pandemic.

It had to cancel my ticket. Very disappointing for a variety of reasons. However, we got to a conversation shortly thereafter about. about masks. This is before it was a huge controversy. And I was like, yo, you have a mask? She was like, I got to go out with my kid

and do blah, blah, blah. I was like, she was like, ah, they're not sure about the mask thing. I'm not, I went, no, no, no. But I'm just saying person to person, if you're going to go be around people right now, you should wear a mask. And there was like this back and forth fight

and I was like, why are there people who would think that if there's an airborne thing, their gut doesn't, tell them I'm covering my mouth and nose I I don't understand what's wrong with you like I who are your parents where'd you go to school why do you not think there's an airborne thing I I I was using a frigging macho man Randy Savage handkerchief but I'm covering my nose and mouth when I also used to explain to people too like I don't want to wear a mask either like I don't want I don't want I don't

I don't want this this is not what I want but long before this. outbreak you know what people wore in like surgical rooms or like when they felt sick in some places yeah sure and you get on public transport you know they wear masks like this is something that's been happening matter of fact I remember us talking about this on the morning about Asia well yeah about Asia and their level of discipline in managing spreads of of disease yeah versus what America would be able to manage I didn't know at the time how right we would be about us literally unraveling over helping each other not

spread a disease. Yeah. Like I was like, yo, there ain't no way America's gonna struggle with this. I remember the conflict. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, you know, we're gonna struggle, bro. When people wearing masks, people in America don't even really watch their hands good. Right. And we're not gonna line up and do something uniform to protect everyone. We're not doing that. Yes, King Lou. No, I was gonna say, but that's the thing. People go, well, you were forced to do ABC, but Pete's point is the point. We're not, if you just left it to everybody, no one's gonna do the things that they needed to do to protect.

Well, that's why they do mandates. And that's why they force people to do things. And that's why we're on the other side. Like, I just do not understand. We are on the other side. I remember the first time I got COVID during the pandemic. I thought I was going to die. Yeah, yours was bad too.

I thought Ricardo was going to die. Y'all were down bad at that. It was the worst. I have never been that sick in my entire life. I've gotten COVID, what? Three times afterwards. After I got a vaccine, nowhere as close. Like 20% bad.

Well, and that's what? why like I think you know there's people who don't get the flu shot I've never been a big flu shot getter um I have gotten it but I don't do it annually um you're also not immune compromise though no I'm not at all but just like the flu shot the idea is they give you they inoculate you right like they give you a little piece of the thing yeah and then your body gets to learn the thing the math on the thing and then that way when your body's confronted with the thing your body always like oh we know what this is already we just boomed out with this we already you know what charged up on this.

And that's the idea of a vaccine. Now, you know, could vaccines be causing complications in people's bodies? Absolutely. 1,000%. Last thing to respond to Rogers on two. He said, and how much time did your network spend talking about Travis and Taylor's wedding?

I'm going to be honest. Not very much. ESPN was not the source of coverage on the way. And he said, but it's just not even, it's not a comp. But this is my point about people who act like they're smart because they have a mic and you do something. You're doing false equivalencies that don't make sense. How much time do they spend talking about Diana Rossini? How much time do they do talking about a TMZ story about someone who no

longer works there? By the way, she has been gone for the entire thing. Well, there might be some legal ramifications for them to cover it too much also. They just don't want to look like the petty network probably. It's not their place to cover it. Now, if it had some direct sports link like they said oh when she did blank x thing was compromised that has not come out yet there is no thing about that so they would have just been jumping on a TMZ like story why would they do that well i think there's another piece of it too like even right now with like the uh what's it the uh kawai leonard's story right these major corporations are in business with these leagues they have contracts literal contracts to cover games okay and the

Those things bring in really great revenue and ratings. And so I got news for y'all. If you think a major network is going to cover things that may jeopardize a relationship with a major league, I got a button for you. Relations, you play yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're expecting ESPN to do a whole exposés on how the NBA and teams in the NBA conspired around this Kauai Leonard money and whatever's happening with this trade, it's not going to happen on the, network that has the deal with the league what's the first letter in the espion entertainment and when do you get to news by the third the fourth the way it's the last thing so you're just you're just

showing that you're here as a grown man now you're over 40 years old and you sound like a teenager who watches youtube who thinks you know stuff you're not even you thought they were just well and also too it's he's hurt man he's hurt bro he's hurt that's what that is erra rogers was hurt by the coverage that he got. He was hurt. People are all hurt because of COVID. Like, it's a lot of pain, man.

Like, it's tough for me to just, look, I think he sounds ridiculous. And when I saw it, it was aggravating because I'm like, why is it so complicated? No, but it's nice that you're thinking, what is his deal? Like, because you're going so hard.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and yeah, he's retiring so he doesn't give a shit anymore. Like, all, there's all of that. Griff, you got somebody on the line. What you got? Oh, man. It's got to be great.

T&T dynamite cup. Boom. Let me hit the bomb. What's going on. man. He's bro, Laura Rosenberg. TNT, what's popping? It's popping, baby.

I can barely hear y'all, but I'm I just want to say that, first off, I only been rocking with you guys since you started a new program. Never really listened to you on the radio, but I have to say is that you do a wonderful job. Thank you, man.

And I love the content. Thank you so much, TNT. Let me hit another. Caboom. Oh, yeah, you're really hard to hear. But I just want to speak on the Anthony Fauci thing. All right. Go ahead.

All right, but I have little to no remorse for the people who take it personally, the instances that happened with COVID. This was something that we all had to experience as a group. We all had to cope with. I lost loved ones and many other people lost loved ones, too. And we got to take into account if that just affected every, and just not you personally. I also hasten those people that if they feel a certain type of way,

get rid of your car insurance, get rid of your health insurance, get rid of your health insurance, because this was insurance that certain people who were immunocompromised, those people who were elderly would be kept safe. And that should take paramount over your own selfish needs and desires and wants and you want to go out and party, but we need to keep people alive, man. You know, listen, man.

Seems pretty straightforward, bro. Thank you, TNT. Thanks, T&T. Let's do an engineer review on our phone lines. I don't know if that was his line, our line, but let's get our guy in here and see if there's a phone. Because we've had multiple people say that once we go live with them, it sounds, doesn't sound good. But I think that's a, I'm glad he said that. We forget that during COVID, okay, the ask was for us to help people who not.

needed help because their immune system couldn't handle COVID, couldn't handle potentially even the, um, the vaccine. So we were all being asked, hey, wear a mask, take the vaccine so we can stop the spread of this because there's individuals who could die because we can't help them. I forgot that that was also a part of the ask because it got clouded and everybody's selfish, you know and fears and i get yo listen man taking a vaccine scary people dying outside is scary you know being told you got to walk around with a mask on is annoying i get it we all went through it man i think some of what we still see the the whole fouchy thing um i think that's a by the way

the fact that we're still talking about it a week later and we're on the other side of the pandemic and we're we're like you know still spending this much time on it's evidence that the the spin cycle worked because we're not talking about Iran and we're not talking about what Israel's doing in Lebanon and we're not talking about you know this well we're going to get to a capital one close Trump organization accounts because of possible money laundering that's not being data centers data like there's so that today's an election day we're going to have uh ebony mcmore's on a line a big election going on a matter of fact did we get the Bernie Sanders post in the system uh Rassan that I sent over this morning he said you hadn't got a man I don't know if

spend some time on that I said of Bernie Sanders. But anyway, we're talking about so many other things that are pertinent to the right now. And we're still arguing about the guy who was whose job it was to figure out how to stop a global pandemic from killing people in the United States. And effectively, that happened. Lil Deontel says in our super chat, somebody asked Aaron if Trump is a coward for pleading the fifth 440 times during the EG and Carol case. Thought about that. You know, like it's, you know, people forget about that. Shouts to Dayton Joey, who wrote FDT.

BNA, established 1988, says Roger's been real quiet about his friend RFK. Oh, yeah, they were like, buddy, buddy, right? And didn't RFK just come out last week and say, yo, take the measles vaccination? Oh, did he? Did he? I saw a post about that. After we had these crazy, crazy spreads all over and people are dying. And you know, we just had our first two cyclospora deaths.

Yeah. Well, CellX23 says measles outbreak, food is poisoned, veggies are poison. Let's distract the people, throw Fauci at them. Yep, correct. Eric Motion says, wow, I just realized for the first time in my life, I can actively root against the Steelers. So you shout to everyone in the super chat. Oh, BNA established 1980.

It also says, Rogers and Co. Never mention Operation Warp Speed, but act like Fauci plus insert my are the reason behind the pandemic, but still beyond 45, hard. Well, that was another thing up there. Like, anytime the COVID thing comes up, I personally, I always go, well, who'd you vote for? 2016, 2020.

Who'd you vote for? Right? Because you get what you voted for. So, you know, and people are out of your faces and say they didn't vote for Trump, but somebody did. Well, listen, now we have a 13th century. ultimatum in the Iran War. No war has ever been finished so many times.

It's the record for the most wars that have been finished. You've never seen one war finished as many times. Lucky Sunshine in our chat says, Henny Heggseth has wasted our stockpile trying to get us all killed. Facts. Henny Hegsafe is fire. And we are out of weapons, apparently. Well, that's just more reason for them to...

Perfect. to take more taxpayer dollars, give it to the, you know, the military weapons makers. Lockheed Martin, get them all right. You know what I'm saying? So look, if you're going to buy some stock, you know those stocks are going up. You know what I mean? Thank you for calling to T&T. Appreciate that.

Reson, since we're on Aaron Rogers, he apparently dissed Tom Brady, clip 16. Yeah, that's a shot. I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be, you know, out there doing a podcast, chasing down. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we might come every now. Chasing down weird ass parties in the East Coast and wearing white. I'm not going to be doing any. I'm not going to be doing anything. Yes.

You know, I'm going to be. You know, I'm going to be a goofball fest? I'm going to be out of the light. So I might as well get a couple of them. I don't get to do this show as much as I would like to do. I think from time and time. Especially when I get a chance to get after that gutless organization you have to be connected with. Oh, geez.

Always. The government? I just don't care anymore. What a rebel. Man, he's so brave. You know what I mean? Like, it's tough. In America to be a white man sitting on like $350 million and be the quarterback in the NFL.

Even when you're barely good anymore, you still get to be the face of a franchise. It's so. He's just so. He's so brave, bro. He's so brave. You really dislike him. Because he used to be my favorite quarterback to watch of all time. And to watch you go out as like this fake rebel pretending like you're about, these are all selfishly motivated, these topics.

He's not being actually brave. He's not standing up on issues that are about people. This is a personal vendetta. To your point, his feelings are hurt. So he's going on a lashout fest at ESPN and all these different places. None of this is about talking about, is he talking right now? Did he get on there if he wanted to be a real rebel and talk about Gaza? Talk about Iran.

Talk about the American people who are not. Soldiers, people who have terrible benefits, aren't being taken care. Did you do anything actually brave? You're attacking Anthony Fauci and going after ESPN because why are they got those stories? And then, by the way, and even in your bravery, he couldn't even call Michael Rubin by name you're so brave you couldn't even say Michael Rubin's name so you wanted to smoke or Tom Brady you wouldn't say either of their names East Coast parties and and weird podcast or whatever you're clearly you're saying Tom Brady and Michael Rubin but you won't say it but you're being so

brave lame no I hear you I hear you uh today's a big election day around the country um do you have the Bernie Sanders of it all let's check it out Bernie this Bernie Posts you What I wanted to put into context is not only how important this race is for the future of our country, but how important it is for democracy and the progressive movement. There is a reason why the billionaires and their super tax are spending an unbelievable amount of money, something like $60 billion, against Abdul. There is a reason for them. These guys are not dumb.

And what they understand, what the billionaire class understands, is they're looking around the country. And they saw last year in New York City, Mandani won. We won in New Jersey. We won in Colorado. We won in Pennsylvania. Ohio and Montana. We want in Arizona, California.

We are taking on the establishment all over this country, all over the country. Ordinary people, unionists, young people of color, getting involved in the police. involved in the political process and they're saying, wait a minute, maybe the Democratic Party should belong to us and not just wealthy campaign contributors. And then in the midst of this comes Dr. Abdul El-Said. And talking about the agenda that working people believe it. He is saying that maybe it's a bit insane that in the richest country in the history of the world, we remain the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people.

And Abdul is saying, well, you know what? Maybe we should not maintain a corrupt campaign finance system, which allows billionaires to buy elections. We should not be spending money on endless wars like this terrible war in Iran. And maybe we should not be giving another nickel to the Netanyahu government in Israel, which has done such horrible genocidal things. that's what Abdul is talking about and people say yeah that makes sense

it's pretty good that Bernie guy he's yeah man it's cool that Bernie without being able to become president is still now like shaping potentially what the future of the Democratic Party hopefully looks like well so that's why I believe Bernie and I always have is because of what you just said

he knows he can't really go farther right and I even saw what's the guy what's the Democratic strategist's name that's always yapping from Louisiana. Carville. He was like, Bernie's never won anything. He's run for president twice. Why are these Democrats, you know,

the Democratic socialist is a Democrat. He's super scared, scare, scare, scare, scare. And I'm kind of like, but that makes me like somebody even more. Yeah, he's, well, you mean he's actually cares. I like you, I like you even more because you didn't win and you're still going. Yep.

I believe, because you believe. I believe in what you're saying because you can't really go farther now, which means you were really doing this for the right reasons. Yeah, yeah, I mean, he's never stopped. Bernie's been in politics since he was a young man. Yeah, this is his whole life. Yeah, wasn't he part of the sit-ins? I think so.

I think he goes all the way back to the 60s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is his, he's on brand. That's what I'm going to say. He never changed. If you think Mom Donnie scares people, though. Abdul El-Sayed. Nah, the name and the look.

Yo, he's jacked up. Bro, that is for a certain sect of Americans. He is literally like, well, they've been taught. That's like the bad guy in the movie. They've been taught that's like the terrorist up against Bruce Willis. You're fighting, not only is he fighting for things that the establishment doesn't want you to get. he's also fighting against some of the deepest racial stereotypes in this country. And I believe that's why Bernie also goes hard.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, he gets it. He understands. But also, these people are all really disciples of Bernie's. They are. This is his, he was the mainstreaming of these ideals. And remember, at first, when he was running in 2016, a lot of people did not believe. And I'm saying a lot of people, because I don't even remember where I felt about it,

even though I always love Bernie, didn't feel he had a chance in that he could win. Thought he was too much of a risk. Like, ah, he won't actually win. Well, but I think that's the piece, right? Because you will get to a national election. There will be a primary, and you will be asked to vote, you know, in a primary

to figure out who will represent the Democratic Party. Whether we like it or not, we have a two-party system. That's what we're going to be dealing with, right, in 2028, right? And you will be, you will have to, to have that combo. Like, can we put somebody forth who can actually win? Even with what's going on in Michigan, that's part of the combo, right? If Abdul D'Aid gets the nomination today in November, he will go up against whoever the Republican candidate is for the Senate seat in Michigan, which the Republican candidate is a super Trumper. And so it will be a mom-dani-like individual

versus a Trumper. So it will kind of set the stage for what voters. And so it will kind of set the stage for Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What voters in a blue-collar state, a working-class state like Michigan, are willing, I hate to say it, but to look past, like they have to look past something. Right, right. To your point of being afraid of a Muslim name and, you know, someone's physical stature and, you know, the ideals that they put forward. But I honestly believe there are many people who still, I mean, look, we live here. So, and the system we have is one where we vote. okay this is what we got guys and so you're gonna if you're if you're if you're a voting person like

myself and i encourage you all to be so the option to make sure that you get someone to represent your interest is voting whether on a local or a federal level when you go to do said thing i believe that people want to believe individuals who speak like berni or abdo i el saeed or mom donnie or aOC or any of these names that we're seeing uh what we're What's the mayor? I'll ask Ebony McMorris because they have a Democratic socialist mayor down in D.C. Right?

Who's saying the right things? And people are like, hey, let's see what you got. Because guess what? If they drop the ball, you know what you got to do again? Vote for someone else. You got to hire someone else to do the job. Yes. That's the way this thing work.

That's the only way it can work. Well, that's what we got right now. If you put somebody in charge, you say, hey, I want to hire you for the job. You watch over several years, you get to see if they're doing the job. If they're not doing the job, you get to hire someone else.

And hopefully they do the job. Also, I want to be clear, I do recognize I was looking at chat, that in Die Hard 1, the bad guys are definitely German. But you know what I meant. You understood what I was saying. I wasn't listening close enough.

When you started to talk, you know, It reminded me about... It wasn't the actual diehard. But I went to look for a Tucker Carlson clip that I saw this morning, right? Oh, the one of them, the party? No, this was going to be my bridge to talk about the new party,

but you brought up something about this certain sect of America. Did I get that? Did you get it in? Watch this. People bought the lies about nine, there were many lies about 9-11, but the net result was to convince Americans

that they were under siege from global Islam that there were a billion people trying to kill them. I felt this way myself. And many times, I said on television, the problem is Islam. The problem is Muslims. Like, they all want to kill us. They're all crazy.

They're all in this lunatic suicide cult created by Muhammad in the 7th century. And I believe that. I was hysterical. I believed that. Now, that's not true. Nothing about that is true. But I believed it.

So it's a little harder for me to judge Israelis when they're like every Arab, Christian or Muslim, it doesn't matter. Arabs are by definition committed to the extermination of Jews, and we must kill them before they kill us. they believe that. I think people are capable, I know, because I have felt it myself, are capable of believing things like that, but they're deranged. And when you do believe something like that,

what you need is a clear thinking adult to correct you, just as your children need it when they go crazy, which they do. And your job is the parents be like, nope, that's actually not real. Settle down. They're universal standards that apply to everybody. Some people are bad, some people are good. That's true of all people, including you. So settle down. I've had this talk with my own children. I'm sure you have two. And we should have that talk with Israel, but we haven't. Because of blackmail and threats and weakness, there are a lot of reasons why Israel has been able to control the United States for decades. But it almost doesn't matter what they are. It's ending. And I hope that we can restore, I mean, I hope that the people responsible for the

genocide in the U.S. and Israel are punished. They will be. I'm confident of that. After that, I think, I hope that we can have a normal relationship with Israel. but why didn't cool bro but I remember you on TV saying that those were the crossfire days that's right I remember you weren't adult then yeah and you were screaming about Islam then

I remember it you were fuel in Israel is run by seemingly adults now I think that's his point it's like we were hysterical you were the deranged one listen you by the way you like me are hearing that and saying, cool, bro. I appreciate you. Thanks for.

Thanks for coming around. Whatever. I don't trust you, though. I was waiting for the next part for him to be like, there was a time when I believed that Islam was evil. And Islam was they wanted to kill us. And I know now I had it wrong. It was the Jews.

Because that's what I think he really does sort of want to get to eventually. Well, I still haven't heard him apologize to Barack and Michelle Obama until I hear that. You know, the fact that you pick these random things as your goalposts that are never getting hit no matter what happens. Well, I think it's a good safe place to be though. No, that's what I mean. So, but if it does, it'll be like, wow.

No, now he really checked. Wow. Wow. But I agree. Listen, I'm not saying I didn't agree with everything he said in the clip. I did. And I have literally talked to Israeli people who were like, they just fundamentally are like, no, but they want to kill us.

And I'm like, no, but they don't. Like some, no, a few people. people do for sure for sure but just like a lot of your people want to kill them but by and large no that's not true i just it's hard for me to not remember it wasn't that long ago that you were the one well and you also know that it's a set you also know that it's a setup uh they're setting up setting up shot clip 17 there was signed if the democrats don't tune in to what's next after maggot we're going to get our asses beat again pop this up marjorie taylorne posts a photograph of herself, Tucker and Thomas Massey. She says, we said no more foreign wars,

and we meant it and supported Donald Trump because he made that promise, but he's betrayed us all. Our commitment is America First for all Americans, right, left and center. The movement has begun. You guys, I have been saying this forever. They are going to do an America First platform. It's going to hit hard in fly over states. It's going to hit hard when they say no more money for Israel because we need to afford hospitals and schools here. The Democrats should be leading on this. We should have an absolute 100% black and white, complete different shades of politics. Shout to the I've had it podcast.

They do great work over there. But you guys are seeing how it's shaping up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because now everybody wants to turn tail on, until. Rosenberg's point, you were adults in 2016. We saw you. Now, we're going to be called a-hoes, elitists, condescending because we're not being nice and making space for people who made mistakes. That's what will happen, right? Because we'll be like, I saw you. You're

an adult. I was telling you, it was a bad idea. I was telling you you were being hateful. We were telling you that this was going to be bad we were screaming we were doing what that and you did not listen because you don't listen to black people well racism first racism first right because that's the nuance in what you're seeing up there because when you see mom donnie and el-sayad jamal bowman Bernie Sanders aOC they are talking about inclusivity in americans that includes black people in the convo, right, of equity and diversity and inclusion. That's bringing DEI back, right? When you see Tucker and Marjorie and Thomas Massey, the Republicans who are now like,

hey, you know, we got things we got to fix in America first. Those things that you're fixing in America first does it include poor people of color? also and black people because remember the reason we don't have universal health care in America goes back to them not wanting black people to have it yeah no no that's what it was based on like in the 50s and 60s that's like the thing they didn't want to give it to poor black people it's not just that they don't want to give it to poor people period they don't want to pay for poor people period well they can convince poor white people that it's the black people's fault right well that's the that's the brilliance of the plant I just I don't know I'm telling you they would

Give it to poor white people. They're not giving it to black people. Right, right. And they're definitely not giving it to brown immigrants and first generation people. For sure. Definitely not. Of course not. But that's the root of it.

The root of it is racism. And that's kind of the convo that you can't, you can't, don't lose sight of that. As of us start. Because you'll hear the Tucker's and the Marjorie's talking about foreign policy. And you'll hear them talking about these things that you're like, yes, I agree with that. But remember, the issue was always inclusion of black and brown people. You know what I mean, black women? They're not talking about how many black women lost jobs in this last 10 years cycle.

They're not talking about the lack of funding. But I'm just making sure you pay attention to certain things that are excluded from the combo. But I realize now that you're saying people are stupid and would actually look at this and think they could be talking to them. Yes. It's going to happen, though. You're right. You're right. I didn't think it was possible.

Listen to what they said. Left, center, a right. You're all welcome into this America first party. People are going to be like, oh my God, finally, I don't have to play both sides. This is where I can be. But just know that it's only white. That's what it's for. You forget what I just thought that was a gift.

The racism and Marjorie Taylor Green? That's the thing. Because I know who they are, I forgot that that's obvious. Well, the other part of it is, too, remember even in what Tucker was saying, he's not saying anything against the corporate entities that have abused. they're not speaking out against that. No, of course not. What? They're going to be for them.

They're still going to be all corporate all the time. That's what I'm saying. They're going to be, no, we'll be the party of corporate still, but will be anti-funding wars, particularly this Israel one, because,

especially this one, because all of a sudden they care about brown people. That's why they mention any other wars? No. Do they mention any other places where brown people are affected? No. Got it.

So I'm just interested in that because y'all always used to. Jews and now you hate Israel and you're like oh my God they all everyone hates Israel perfect we'll run this play but they're not talking about anything else but that but yeah they're just going to be the same well you got to get in the weeds on it you got in the weeds on it and make sure because people will watch the clips and go ooh yeah they came around they're not going to be no they're that that'll be interesting now you also talk about actual progressive ideas about they won't

people of they won't ever no people of color no They're not going there. It's going to be America first. Right. They're not talking. By the way, and they're not talking about education. They're not talking about history system. They're not talking about teaching history.

They're not talking about reparations. They're not talking about these things that are really hot topics for, you know, marginalized communities, specifically the black communities. That's what you just got to pay attention. You know what it is? Matter of fact, the only delineation that separates them from Trump is, if you listen, they were down with Trump. They loved it all.

except he's down with the Jews. That's right. That is the line they're drawing in the sand. And by the way, he's not really down with the Jews. He's down with the right-wing Israel supporters. But that is how they see it. We were down with him,

but he's owned by Israel and the Jews. But also remember that they're going to play. Remember that Jewish contingent of elites controls a lot of the banking system. And that's just the elites who happened to be Jewish. Right. So it still comes back to the money.

It's always going to come back to the money and whether or not you're going to get money to working class Americans and specifically make sure that the most marginalized communities, which are black and brown, are getting more than what is equal. That's where you get to equitable, where you start to uplift.

These communities that have been marginalized. You lost a lot of people there. Exactly. Let's get to the rundown. Laura got the rundown, turn that up. Screen's on glow. When lines heavy, but we still cut up. Light still flashing, we don't slow up.

All right. This story makes me sad, man. So Ariana Grande's team announces she'll be stepping out of the spotlight following her eternal sunshine tour due to public criticism. Now, fans have been, you know, very open, voicing concerns. about Ariana, her look. And then she has a new music video, pedal. I saw it, whoa.

I'm going to be honest with you. I'm trying not to body shape, but she looks very, very thin. And a lot of people are, you know, comparing her to 2023. She came out and said, look, that was a very unhealthy period in my time, trying to defend the way she looks.

But you guys, it's pretty sad to see the whole thing unfold. I mean, Ariana Grande has been through a lot publicly. Remember, a lot of this public trauma that she goes through also goes back. Remember the bombing of her concert? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, like so, you know, it's a lot, man. Definitely, Mac Miller. Mac Miller.

She's been through a lot of stuff. Yeah, man. Also, there's a starting point, though, like, we have to remember at Ariana Grande's most healthy, as anyone was aware of from a physical standpoint, if you were to go all the way back to what we had her on the show years ago. She's always been a tiny, you know what being. Yes. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying anything.

I'm just saying, for, listen, we can't help ourselves. So people are going to have to talk about other people's bodies. That's what they're going to do with public people. Yeah. But I think a lot of fans are just, they're scared for her well-being. Well, and she's, I mean, she's healthy, right? She's saying, I'm healthy. This is my body type.

And that's what it is, right? Or no, we don't know. I don't know. She's just saying I need to step away because this isn't mentally healthy for me to even be here. Got it, okay. Yeah.

In other news, School Boy Q is going on tour to support a blank face LP. Come on, Q. And so it's a chance to wrap her for the coloring book. Two of my favorite people. Yeah. Two anniversary.

Yeah. Which is crazy. Now, for School Boy Q, the tour is set to begin in October, October 1st in Atlanta, and it's going to be 10 shows. Coming to NYC, October 3rd. Now, you're going to make sure that School Boy Q has a place to play golf at each one of these tours.

He's going to need to stop. So whatever town he's coming through, if you're a golfer, School Boy Q needs the best 18 to play. There you go. And for chance, the coloring book tour is going to kick off in Cleveland on August 11th. And then it's going to be more than a couple dozen North American cities. But he's coming to New York on August 18th for Summer Stage. There you go. I just went through the whole

Ariana Grande pedal video. She looks the same as Ariana Grande to me. I don't think so. She's covered in blood. Look at Luis's face because I, maybe you just saw the beginning, but I've seen other scenes and I'm just like. She went through literally the whole video.

I mean, she's mad skinny, but like that's just what I think of Ariana Grande. She's always been very small. Not like that, though. I'm telling you, I was expecting worse. I've seen like over this whole run over the last few years. I just watched the whole thing. Okay.

I mean, everyone can think what they want. Everybody's an Ariana Grande body special. All I'm saying is I just wouldn't, it wouldn't send me to. Maybe this is why she's stepping away. That's the thing. I mean, yes, yes, that's why she can't take the criticism. I don't know why people need to post it. Would it be enough for me to go, I need to go post about this?

I'd be like, well, Ariana Grande is very thin. I mean, she also has insane fans. She's very popular. Well, everyone who's at a certain level of popular these days, it's only insane. Well, we have insane fans and we're, I mean, how popular are we? I mean, sometimes fans are insane. Right. in a fraction of Mariana's popularity.

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today's a big election day all right ladies and gentlemen our White House correspondent Ebony McMorris happy belated birthday yes epitney thank you my dear Yeah, joining the program from D.C. Busy week this week in D.C. We'll get back. We'll get to the Iran of it all. But let's start domestically with the Michigan elections, Ebony. What's happening?

This is big. Big voting on Tuesday. It's big week. It is. Like, just period. Today's a big day. You've got voters in Virginia, Michigan, Missouri, Kansas, and Washington. They're headed to the polls.

But I am. like most zeroing in on Michigan because they're the one that everyone needs to really be watching as well. This is the seat vacated by Senator Gary Peters. It's a must win for Democrats, right? So if they want a shot of flipping the Senate, Democrats need to hold their seat and flip at least for Republican-held ones. So Michigan is just one race, but it's a preview of this whole fight. And you've got Dr. Abu El-Said, a progressive running against Haley Stevens. Let me just say he does not call himself a Democratic socialist.

He says he's a scientist, not a socialist, nonetheless progressive, right? And she, though, Haley Stevens is the established moderate. This is a real referendum on where the Democratic Party is headed. How you fight Trump, how you talk about Israel, and what it doesn't mean to be electable. And so when it comes to the black vote in this case, it's everything in this race. The Congressional Black Caucus is kind of split on the candidates, though. Younger, more progressive, CBC members are with El-Said. The Older Guard, Congressman Jim Clyburn, established black leaders across Michigan,

Ruiz Stevens, and APEC, because I know you talk about APEC a lot, has poured more than, I'll just say, $60 million into this, I think the largest, $60 million into the race period, $30 million into boosting Stevens, with ads leaning hard on her ties to President Barack Obama. He is not endorsed her and the auto rescue. And so it's a direct play for black voters. because Stephen's whole path to winning runs through turnout in Detroit and Flint, Michigan. Meanwhile with El Saeed, he's running on a more anti-Israeli platform, Israel platform, abolishing ICE, taxing the rich, Medicare for all, a sharp contrast.

Both are also keeping affordability that worked in their mouths. So when we look at recent polling, it shows that El-Said pulling ahead, it's really tight, though. And he's increasingly seen as a favorite going into tonight, but we know how polls can go, right? We've seen that before. But whoever wins will face Republican Mike Rogers, right, who's a Trumper, former congressman who already lost a Senate bid two years ago. So Democrats believe when it comes to the polling, who will beat him? I've seen some saying, while Saeed may beat Stevens, the question is, can he beat Rogers in this?

What gives them the better shot is what people are going to be looking at as we, head to the November elections. Well, I find this very interesting because I'm partial to Saeed's platform. I feel like, you know, I'm partial to anyone who is openly speaking out first against the government of Israel. Second, talking about specifics

when it comes to health care and affordability. A lot of people just in the Democratic side. They throw out this word, Laura, affordability, but they don't really talk about what that means or how they're going to achieve it and where the money's going to come from. And so when I see someone also unafraid to talk about

taxing the most wealthy people in society to get the money, to make things more affordable and to help social services and social safety net, I'm a fan of that because it's specific. It's not generic. And I feel like a lot of moderate Democrats

are just speaking generically all the time. I mean, I feel like, yeah, most just kind of regurgitate the same talking points, but what's the plan, right? Well, and also why would someone who's, you know, the APEC of it all, the American, Israel, political, whatever, why do they care so much about what's going on with this race? And they care about a lot of races, and I know why. It's a rhetorical question. But that makes me suspicious of the individual, especially when you're talking about $30 million. Of course.

Absolutely. And here's the thing. Congress does what controls the purse. So this is about affordability and about Michigan, but it is also about where your vote will lie in Congress. And how we, this nation is funding Israel is a big conversation. It wasn't the last election, but we are seeing how that is even splitting within the Democratic Party. I think the Democratic Party really is in this turn to figure. out how progressive they're really going to lean because we are seeing many we're seeing that the rise of democratic socialists we're seeing the rise of many more progressive voices so what does that look like at the end of the day and how can it impact Congress that's why this Michigan race everyone's kind of focused on that because I think after people are going to be like whatever the decision is we got to really really rethink some of these other races and other candidates and then I think look money has been ruling and even more so in this election these races. And so he is one that has been talking about getting this, getting money out.

Getting corporate dollars out. Yeah. Absolutely. It's drowning out other voices who may be stronger in the community but cannot afford to go up against these dollars. We see the whole that even the Democrats are in. The DNC is ridiculous. But I mean, there's a fight. Republicans had that fight too as well.

It's interesting how it'll turn out. Well, you said Democratic Socialists. The boogeyman. What is that? The boogie people. The boogie people. And El Cayed said he's not a Democratic socialist. He's a scientist, but he's not.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. I have. But what do you think about that? I don't care. Okay. I don't care because I feel like categorically, right? We're just throwing around words that may or may not mean anything to the voter, right? And so they're being made afraid of socialist.

Right? And like, okay, but who's going to get them affordable health care and better paying jobs? Like that's all. Because when we go back to why Trump, many people voted for Trump, it was because they felt like they could believe him. And he obviously played in their face. Those that believe them, you got played. Congratulations. You plagued yourself.

But, you know, that was their story. which was he promised this. He said he was going to drain the swamp, but you didn't know that he was the swamp monster. Congratulations. You played yourself. I mean, I knew we told you you didn't want to listen to us and there many other individuals that told you not to trust these races.

But now we're here. And so I don't, I think arguing over these terms is a waste of energy. Who's talking about this stuff that people want. I do think he probably agrees with you. That's why he's probably. staying away from the labeling. Right. You know what I mean?

There's a strategy in the drama and the, you know, the big boogeyman that everybody's scared about. So he's like, you know what I'm a, I align with policies, you know what I mean? But I'm just going to, you know, stay away from that label, which I don't care. I think that's like, as long as the policies align. I think you're like a lot of Americans, right? At the end of the day, who's going to fight big money corporations? At the end of the day, who's going to talk about affordability?

At the end of the day, who's going to be in my best interest when it comes to education, when it comes to child care? Who's going to help me in my fight just voting rights is a big issue as well? So I'm actually like you. Who will fight for justice at the end of the day? You can call yourself what you want to call yourself. But at the end of the day, if you're not working for my best interest to be able to survive because I'm tired of scratching and surviving, you know what I mean? Who's going to help work in my best interest so that I can be the best that I can be? and also have my tax dollars, my tax dollars,

work for me in this country. And so you're right, the president came in, he was talking all this stuff. He was talking affordability, an issue that he has pulled back from, right? But who is really going to fight for me? And we do many times get caught up in a lot of these titles. And so I understand, in my mind, he really aligns with it,

but he's pushing back, and that is a strategy, and I get it, and he steers away, and he gets straight to the topic. I think Americans are just, they're tired, like of the rhetoric and the talk. The other piece for me, Ebony, is I look around and I listen. And when you hear mass amounts of individuals or you see data that supports that individuals are hurting and gas prices and grocery prices and looking for jobs and looking for quality education for their children, like, I want a politician that's not just. getting the memo off of the email, printing it out and going to the podium, right? I want somebody who's,

and then, you know, go ahead and stumping for whoever their corporate donors are. Right. I want to see more politicians that are like, hey, I'm listening. I'm willing to listen. This is the community that I serve, and this is the work that I'm,

and look, we live in New York City, so we're getting a good example of what that can look like. Is it short term? Is it early? Absolutely. Do we know what? The four-year program for Mom Dani is going to be when we get to the next election cycle, we don't.

But right now... But right now... It looks damn good. And even... And now, Ebony, you live down D.C., right? Or outside of D.C.? I'm in D.C. Yeah.

How a Democratic socialist... Was just elected mayor of D.C. Janice. I mean, look, I think that voters here in D.C., I just... just like the voters in New York, just like the voters everywhere. People are looking for not just a change, but they are looking for a voice that is strong,

that will stand up, that is not scared, right? Right, willing to fight. That is not always just so establishment, right? But it doesn't mean you have to go off the rails either, but this is an administration that you really have to fight back. And there is not like a safe space, for you. And what we don't want to see is any more fetterman's, right? Where you come in is one thing, and then you're a turncoat on the other hand. But yeah, when we saw, we saw in this race with

Janice in Washington, D.C. to become the next mayor, shook a lot of people. It really did, because she really shook the establishment here. And so it remains to be seen, just like you're saying with Ma Donnie, great start. We're like, okay, what impact is that going to have across cities and states. I'm looking at will it empower those who didn't think that they had a voice to run to actually begin to do that work. And that's the fear.

Right? So the biggest fear because I don't think, look, I don't think the fight is actually about Trump. Okay? Trump is just a figure head. Okay. Part of the system. For corporatization.

This is really a fight of the people versus corporate America. That's the battleground. The battleground for corporations who prop up politicians get policy done in their favor to get their margins up to ultimately remove money from the middle class, remove opportunity from the middle class, right?

That's the whole game so that they can get more for their margins so they can get more for their shareholders. That's the game. And that's what we're fighting against. So the fight is always, we're seeing right now, there is no check and balance, right? Like right now,

and there's no, there's no enforcement arm for Congress. Like, they can't arrest anybody. They can't get laws passed. They can't, they're doing nothing. They literally are doing the power that they have. They're giving their power up, you bro. All the time.

And so we need individuals who are willing, like you said, to fight, but specifically to fight corporate America. Because Trump is there because of corporate America. The division that we see in the country is because of corporate America. They empower, they're the ones that finance and empower the white supremacists and the fascists and the Nazis and the chaos. They want that because when people are afraid, people stay home, they stay away. from things and they go spend money on other shit other than getting out with each other and celebrating joy and life

and being able to hold corporations accountable. We see it right now. People are still out here spending money even though things are unaffordable. Because guess what? When people are unhappy, what do they do? They eat. They drink. They stay home. They watch movies. They buy

products. They stay in their communities. They don't gather with individuals. Right, right. And I wish more corporations. would there's the other side to it because corporations can make a lot of money because guess what when people are happy what do they do they eat they drink they gather with friends but the problem is is there's power with the people when the people are unified and they don't want to see us unified so there there is and there is a great I believe it came out last

week some numbers that came out from vote hub and what it did is looked at with all of the gerrymandering that we were saying they specifically specifically looked at black Americans and places where the maps were being gerrymandered. And on that note, I do just want to say, even though we're talking about Michigan, Missouri is also important because they're voting under a brand new gerrymandered map, Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver fighting off six primary challengers in a district Republican specifically redrew to come after him. But that, those numbers from Vote Hub showed that surprisingly more people, because these maps

are being gerrymandered, they're seeing more. black folk come out to many of these primaries to vote because they're like, look, reading the writing on the wall, what you thought was going to do to keep us down, we're actually going to push back even hard. And we'll see how much of a fact that happens. We go, we have more primaries that are going to happen. And we have a midterm in, like, 91 days. We need those 90 million to sit on the couch before, not to sit on the couch now because

there is power if we vote in our numbers. But on that note, Iro, Thursday, I want people to remember Thursday, August 6th, it's the 61st anniversary of the Voting Rights Act, right? And so we have been under attack and continuously under attack. But I do want to remind people that this administration has also failed in many attempts to suppress the vote. Yes, it's getting harder. Yes, we're getting tired of it. But these attacks are happening in real time from ICE showing up at some of the poll sites in Syracuse, New York. showing up at a library polling, claiming that it was about a poll worker social media.

But local, you have local police and poll workers and organizations coming together to intervene. In that case, they get them to leave. And so I want to be clear to those who are watching, number one, it is illegal for any armed government official to show up at your polling site. Okay, it's illegal. However, this administration understands it has failed. They have lost 19, I believe, of Friday, 19 cases. when they are tried to come in and take over the voting rolls of various states. DOJ has sued over 30 states in trying to seize their voter registration data.

So we don't always see the wins. We don't. And we know that this is an administration that even when they lose a case, they will still go around and circumvent and try to do something else. But people are fighting back. And so I want people to be villager. And while they have this conversation, please vote. check to make sure that your name is on the voting list, that your name has not been a

challenged by someone in your community because you literally have the Republican Party going hard to remove names off of voter rolls. So pushback, vote, get involved and do the work. Ebony, before we wrap today, the meeting between Trump and Iran to find a solution and get the world out of this pickle that we've been in what now, Lou, six months? Has it before?

Has it been four? No, it's been over four. It's almost six. It's almost six months. You know, I hear these headlines. Oh, Trump said he's not going to bomb them now because they're meeting today.

I'm like, all right, buddy. What are we doing? So what's going to have? happen this week? So he announced on Sunday that he's in talks with Iran. Those would have begun Monday afternoon saying he's called off the plan strikes, right? What is described as like the biggest attack since World War II to give diplomacy a chance. Honestly, it's head spinning because every day that I get up and I'm at the White House that I'm reading, okay, it's on, it's off, for him threatening to blow up the whole country and to a people that he said called to rise up

and he would take care of them and do all this other stuff. Honestly, it's just rhetoric. And I do know that his administration is kind of spinning to keep his, to keep his language kind of contained. It is not working. And so they're always trying to mansplain him every time he says something. He framed it as new talks to wind down this ongoing U.S.-Israeli war with Iran, but Trump. But the question in that is, what about Israel, right?

Israel was ready to go and has been ready to go. And so these two countries, U.S. and Israel, are not on the same path as well, right? And so he said the negotiations, he didn't give any, let me just say this, he didn't give any details on that or what's going to be happening. We're not even quite sure who he's always talking to, but we know the negotiations have been failed and it's been this on again, off again. And the question is, well, not even the question, but the U.S. is not going to go as hard in the paint as Iran is. And we know that.

And this is a country who will call you out on your bluff each and every time. And so it's dizzying for Americans who are being affected. That's why administrations of the past were smart enough to stay out of a predicament like this. And we elected somebody who was stupid enough to get us into a predicament like this. And while Iran is also denying that they even would have discussions. That's the thing. We have an administration and say, oh, we have talks. And Iran said, no, we're not. And then we get a video in the end of it. So who really knows what is really happening? Here's what we do now. Gas prices are up. Straight of her news is closed. Americans are suffering. We have a president who is not being honest. And it is taking American lives at the same time. And he is denying that we're going to be able to, he's going to have to put soldiers on the ground. and we cannot trust what is happening, but we do know it is affecting your pockets every single day.

Ebony McMorris, the White House correspondent for the ELR show. Thank you for your time today. Thank you, Ebeney. See you next week. Have a good week. All right. As well, thank you. Don't call it a podcast.