The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 157.) Edgar Berlanga On Legacy, Canelo, Music, Ryan Garcia & Zuffa + Is Lobster Overrated (8/6/26)
Episode Date: August 6, 2026Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are discussing whether or not lobster is fancy, Edgar Berlanga joins the show to talk about Canelo, Music, Ryan Garcia & Zuffa, ENVSN ...Fest, Ebro tries to translate Baby Mama and so much more! (8/6/26) Hear more of the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Just don't call in a podcast.
The Ebro-Law-Law-Rosenberg shows.
Ebro-Lah Rosenberg, O'O-O-O-O-O-O-O.
Edgar Berlanga, Brooklyn's Home.
We'll be on the show or in the studio here in moments.
But, wait, and this is rare, we normally don't go to Rassan this early in the program.
Yeah.
Wait, what is your issue with ASAP Rocky's?
whining on his wife
at Cropover in Barbados
What's the issue?
I would just say to be married to a
Just dagger
He wasn't with pelting waste
You know what
You got a pelt waste
You have to what?
Pelt waste
You have to pelt waste
Yeah
What does that mean?
Well that's more of a groove
Yeah
Yeah
You're whining
You're not having sex
It's a groove
Like you're in the groove
With her while she's whining
Verses just bong
Like when me and Spice
We're getting busy
That year at
on the reggae set.
Exactly.
You got a whine.
Exactly.
Did you?
Not just dagger.
Yeah, I definitely didn't dagger.
I dagger when I got it was my turn.
I don't like,
I don't like how that sounds.
And that's what he's,
that's what he's saying.
People like you were amateurs
and people,
you don't have that Caribbean soul like I have.
That's what,
is that right?
That's real talk.
That's right.
Thank you.
Let's wrap about it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm keeping it a buck.
Wait, let's rap about it.
Why are you stealing there?
Well, because I was just reading the note that that Mayno
troll in the world saying
there, the podcast is over already.
You can't run the It's Over sketch already.
You just started.
Can we run the It's Over Sketch?
Like for a month?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Grab ourselves a quick break.
Take a vacation.
By the way, before I forget, also, please,
just real quick, new validate me today.
Okay.
With my guy General Steele from Smith & Wesson.
Talking about, like,
we got into his addiction issues,
problems with alcohol.
He got really deep on his dad's stuff,
which he had never talked.
None of the stuff he'd ever talked about.
He was kind of trying to trying out.
the idea of talking about these issues publicly.
Oh wow.
Because he had never really talked about it.
It's just so interesting, man.
Whenever you go into these stories with like hip hop legends,
you forget how in each one of their worlds,
you know, they were the sun in their world.
And with that came pressure and things.
And by son, you mean center.
Yeah, yeah, you know, like...
Not son like someone's child,
you mean son like...
The sun and everything rotates around them.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, he just had an interesting childhood.
had to move out of his parents' house young
because of his father being abusive.
So some really interesting stuff.
And then there's one hip-hop note
that you just find funny is,
I was saying, yo, did people always call you tech
and not steal?
And he was like, yes, like Big Pet Peeve
is that people call him tech.
Steel.
Because I believe tech is dark skin.
I think people literally
more organically call him steel.
I've got people have always gotten it backwards.
I don't know what the reasoning is.
But I said to him, you know you guys didn't do yourselves any favors.
You didn't show your faces at all.
And on the album cover of your seminal album, you can't see you guys whatsoever.
Yeah, I don't even know.
I think people probably just call them tech because that's the first name that comes to their head.
Tech and steel.
Yeah, but why would you go one?
And then you know, some people call them Smith and Wesson, which is not a thing.
One Smith and one's Weston.
Yeah, no.
No, that was never anything.
They did once say on a song,
I think that what did once go,
get blasted by Mr. Smith or Mr. Wesson.
So we're like, I think that's their name.
But I think they were just being,
so anyways, that's out today as well.
We're also two days out from Envision Fest.
We are.
I'm very excited, guys.
I'm nervous, but I'm super excited.
So I welcome the EL Army.
Go to our website, Envisionfestable.com.
You want to purchase a ticket.
I love the support.
But if you are like, hey, money's tight.
which I understand, I will take care of you.
Shoot me a little DM on Instagram,
and I'll give you passes for the family.
But speaking of the EL Army.
Okay.
Yeah, I better hit that website right now.
Oh, it's official tissue.
It's not just for the Patriones anymore.
For the what?
Because we have a hat.
We have a Dad Hat, a E-L-R Dad Hat.
So here's a picture so you guys could see it.
Yesterday, by the way, this was Patriones only.
But now it has been extended beyond the Patriones.
Yes.
To everybody.
Yeah.
So make sure you guys.
cop that I think it's going to be super cute.
Now, and you guys got to know, I didn't force the, the style of the hat, okay?
What do you mean?
Meaning like, it wasn't like I pick, because I'm the hat guy on the show.
You wear the most hats.
I wear the most hats.
You do.
No question.
Figuratively and literally.
No, I don't know.
I wear a lot of hats also in that way, but you physically wear hats.
But so, yeah, this hat was what we collectively decided we thought would be most easy for
most people to.
Yeah.
To wear.
To wear, purchase, and would be interested in.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So I went along with it.
But wait.
So if you're bitching and moaning about it.
But are you saying you didn't like the style of that?
Well, I haven't worn it yet.
I haven't gotten one yet.
So I don't know if it even fits my magnificent melon.
So wait.
A.
How do you pick your hats?
Like, do you, is it mostly?
Color fit.
Is it mostly fit, though?
It's mostly fit.
Shape.
So like this hat that you're wearing right now with a picture of a fish on it.
That's right.
You see that and you go, oh, this is my kind of hat.
Well, it's from a.
company that I know that the hat would fit
in my head and it's likely I won't see
a lot of people with it. So that's also a part of it too.
Like I don't like wearing shit that other people have.
Like Ricardo's a big hat wear and his
is always a fit. How does it fit?
How does it fit? Right. And what kind of hats
does he normally wear? Oh my God. He has fitted
truckers. Everything. Everything. Everything. I think it's
very specific what hats work, man. It is.
Everybody's different. Everybody. Isn't it weird?
And that's why, back to what I said about this hat.
We feel like this. How many hats you think you have?
I get rid of a lot.
So, like, if I get new hats, I get rid of hats that of, like, sweat it out.
So how many hats do you have?
I don't know, 20.
So you maybe have 20 hats.
Yeah, like I'm not like a 30, 30, 30, probably 30.
You know, because all the things that make everybody else look like an a-hole,
Ebro always knocks the number down to look like a little less.
Oh, I didn't know it was going to be an a-hole.
I know people, like, I was thinking about, like, people who collect hats.
Like, I wasn't, there's people who have like.
No, I don't.
No, she's referring more to her man who just can't get rid of anything.
Oh.
Yes.
So she said.
I missed where you guys were going.
But usually you have people, you say you have a little more than that.
I have, so in my closet, I have a shelf.
Okay.
Okay.
On that shelf, there are all my hats, like stacked in this shelf that's like this.
It's all your hats.
It's all the hats that I have are in that section.
They're not, none sitting anywhere else.
They'll all be right there.
They would all be in that section unless I got lazy and, you know,
threw it down on the, you know, a little hamper on top right here when you walk in the closet.
But they're layered these hats.
Yeah, they're all sitting there.
So don't you feel like that's more than 20, though?
If it's a whole area in a closet and they're layered.
So you're right.
Maybe it's third.
It could be.
It could be 30.
Can I just be 40?
I'll say, it could be 50.
Because hats stack quick because if you have a little area for them.
Well, not.
You're stacking.
Yo, fit it's, well, because it's only, but the shelf is only.
Only so deep.
Yeah.
Only so deep.
Okay.
I have, my hat situation is a mess.
And a lot of them I just put into like a little duffel and they're,
away now because I don't wear that many and then I just try to keep a couple on me so few it's funny though I generally I like my head shape for a baldy like I don't mind my head but when it comes to putting hats on said dome piece so few look good to me at this stage like some of them look all flat here and then it looks like terrible like what that what's that kind called oh because that's different than a dad hat I think there's a panel and so that's like a six panel is that what that is that what that is
I think so.
Six panel.
What kind of?
This is, so this is, um, so full disclosure, I like fishing.
Don't get to fish a lot.
I like fish.
And I also, I'm going to write this too.
I also own a pond that people I've never really told people about it.
In the pond, there's fish.
Okay.
You own a pond.
I own a pond.
Where is this pond?
It's at my home, at land that I own.
Got it.
Right.
I know where.
Okay.
So, um, but this, this, um, hat is about like, uh, stocking your lake.
you know with different types of fish for the environment okay so it's like a just make sure you
don't get any Asian carp in there no you don't want that I want to put Ebro's what was the line I like
fishing yeah was it was I like fishing yeah I want to put that next to uh I love guns well no that I love
guns is crazy no you went back it is crazy but I mean both of them I think are like you don't
like fit you never been fishing no it's not that I believe that you like fishing but like when was
like how often in the last decade
have you gone fishing?
Like four or five times.
Really?
Same way I doubled the hat number.
I'm cutting the fishing number in half.
Well, no, I can walk down to a pond that I own
and you can like, there's a little pier
and you can just fish off the pier
and you go around there and you just bring it.
I have, yeah, like two or three times.
You bring your rod?
So you catch the fish and you clean it out.
No, no, let me put it back.
I don't eat it.
Okay, okay.
Are you successful when you fish?
It's a small pond.
It's not even hard to be successful.
I don't, I've only fished a couple times in my life
and there was not much success.
So the first time I,
The first time I went like real fishing was when I was like 15.
I went down to Louisiana Bayou.
Wow.
And went out in the Bayou.
Visiting your dad's family?
No, no, no, my dad's family's not from there.
A guy, shout to my man Davey D.
Who's from down there.
Remember, I told you guys.
Oh, you got to go to New Orleans.
Why were you going down there?
Because my friend was from there, and I would go down there and he invited me down.
And that's like when I met Birdman and like cash money was launched.
I met juvenile all in back.
That's like early 90s.
Got it.
Right?
So when all of that hip hop scene was bubbling out there.
You were out there in the bayou fishing.
Well, I went to.
New Orleans, but you know, you can go down in the bay, you get up at like 4 a.m.
You get some live shrimp and you go out on the boat and you can like catch a big mouth bass,
red fish, like it's ton of stuff in there.
I caught like, you know, that day it's crazy too.
I caught like 15 fish that day.
Wow.
No, it's, I mean, it was, by the way.
No, no, no.
I think this is like when you go down and fishing in certain places, it's like abnormal,
the amount of fish you could catch.
This is like four touchdowns at Paul Kiley level.
No, no, no, no.
But this is like fish.
But it's 5 a.m.
You're throwing in, like, live shrimp.
The fish are just looking to eat.
Like, they're just going crazy.
Right, right.
It's going crazy.
I feel bad for the fish.
I don't want to touch them.
I don't like to be.
I think you're having a big ass snack.
You're all happy having your big ass snack.
And then guess what?
Hook through your lip.
You know, my cousin that listens to the show right now, he fishes a lot.
He's in Portland.
And they go out, like, all the time.
Like, he's, like, every weekend fishing.
And catching, like, big fish.
When Natalie was little.
One of her things that she would do as like a, I mean, little, little is her and her brother and her dad would go out to where all the fishermen are out in Brooklyn.
And they would get all the whatever little fish.
And Natalie would sell bait.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's cute.
I've seen kids do that.
Yeah, she'd be like running up and down to people's cars selling them bait for a dollar.
A little dollar here, boom.
Yo, by the way, in New York and the trash, there's a lot of fishing going on.
A lot of fishing.
A lot of fishing going on out here.
A whole lot of fishing going on.
He went on his fishing trip.
See, more fishing.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Then he caught a puffer fish.
So he was like, he sent me a video.
And it looks like a fake, like a little squeaky toy.
They throw it back, but.
Here's my question.
How much does it hurt the fish when they get the hook through the lip?
Probably doesn't feel good.
You don't think it feels good.
A hook through your lip?
I'm sure it's not.
I would hate it.
And then.
And then somebody's yanking on your face?
No, no, we yank on their face.
Then we pull them out and they can't breathe.
That's right.
So while they're fighting for their life.
That's right.
We do emergency surgery.
Take the hook out.
Yanking the hook out and then chuck them back in the water.
No, take a photo and then chuck it back.
Yeah, they're gasping.
Gasping for their life.
That's right.
And you're like, I got you a little buddy.
That's right.
I'm a hero.
I threw him back on the verge of death with a hole through its lip.
So I'm like, ah, I had the worst morning of my life.
It happened.
It happened.
I'd heard the stories and it happened.
Oh my God.
It's a nightmare.
It's a nightmare.
It's fun.
But it's a great time.
It's relaxing for us.
I can do it.
For some reason,
I can do that,
but like shooting a big animal,
I could,
I can't do it.
I've never done it.
We don't,
because the truth is
we don't in our hearts
believe that fish have the same
feelings as mammals.
Well,
and my thing is there's so many of y'all.
And y'all have babies so often.
There's so many.
And they eat each other.
other. And they eat each other. And then you have thousands of babies at one time. Oh man. My dad is really in his old age gotten completely out on lobster. Like the whole my dad truly believes the lobster is screaming in the pot. Do you believe the lobster is screaming in the pot? Yes. You don't hear him. But but most people say that's like the air going through the shell. Oh, it is? I don't know. My dad believes it's them screaming for their lives and he won't do it. I've never heard it and I do not want to or else I'll never eat it. I've heard it. I've done it.
And the biggest thing for me with lobster and crabs is they're just roaches.
Oh, my God.
And there's so many of them.
What do they sound like?
Mass amount.
Less every day, thanks to the Republicans, but they're still there.
What does it sound like?
Oh, and oh, by the way, you can do the research on it.
Yeah, it's like a squeak like that.
And you could do the research.
Lobster, I'm not sure a crab, but lobster for sure was like prison food.
And then they somehow converted it into a delicacy.
That's like in the early.
early 1900s like having lobster was like not seen it claude's like not working for me today
what it i'm asking questions why just going to go google i'm going to do lobsters let's just see what
the basic answer is scream in the pot no lobsters do not scream in the pot the sound is just air
and steam escaping from their shells however that's from reddit but then there's more explanation
according to Maine Lobster something or other.
Like we're trusting you, main lobster people.
You're going to tell us the truth.
Of course.
No vocal cords.
Lobsters do not have lungs, vocal cords, or throats,
which means they cannot have a voice or scream.
Doesn't mean they don't feel pain.
Trapped air, as the water gets hot, air and steam trapped inside the shell,
push out through the tiny spaces,
making a whistling or squeaking sound like a tea kettle.
Nervous system.
Lobsters have a simple nervous system,
but experts do not agree on whether they feel pain
in the way humans or other animals do.
Movement.
When put into hot water, a lobster will twitch its tail or move around,
which is a natural reflex or response rather than expression of voice.
Listen, you could guess they don't like just being thrown in a pot to die.
Yes.
The question isn't whether or not other living creatures feel pain.
The question is, do you give a shit?
This is what makes Ebro great, by the way, because he's right.
That is the question.
That's the question.
Because they very often are experiencing.
And you don't know.
You know, listen, I know we are the greatest living creature on earth.
There's shit you just don't know, guys.
And guess what?
You don't give a shit.
Apparently not.
That's why you're going to go have lobster tonight.
You're still going to eat it.
Or steak.
Or fish.
Can we say this though?
Or a burger.
I'm going to start a controversy.
What?
No, Berlong is about to pull up.
But is there a, I like it a lot.
Okay.
But is there a more overrated food than lobster?
It is treated like the number, it's the Beatles of food.
It's really dope.
But it's treated like, oh my God, they had lobster.
Yeah, I agree.
It's mostly marketing.
It's not that.
Yeah, I'm with you.
It's not that.
Mac and cheese, 1199.
Lobster mac and cheese.
21.
21 99.
24-9.
It might be,
yo,
I saw one the other day.
I swear to God,
was $45 for the lobster mac and cheese.
They will hit you in the head
for the lobster mac and cheese.
Oh my God,
they have lobster.
Surf and turf.
Like, it's good.
No, it's all market.
But the marketing.
It's all market.
They were like,
yo,
there are these sea cockroaches
that are big
and you can get tons of them
but we can treat them like
that's a delicacy
and you should pay a lot by the pound.
I'll give you this.
Lobster roll?
Lobster roll?
I'll give you this.
The price.
are insane.
Insane.
Lopster rolls.
Getting a lobster out of the ocean to your plate
is a considerable work.
I'll give you that.
Is it more work than the other animals though?
Nah.
It feels like it to me more than...
Like the cows are just kind of like over there,
go kill one, skin it, let's go.
That's the really brutal one.
To me, when I see the Alaskan king crabs,
those are jamblays.
But like those are hard and the huge ass like...
What's up with the fly situation, man?
No, what's going on though, well?
It's been multiple days.
No, it's been... we got a situation.
They're not trash in here.
There's no...
We gotta have a conversation.
And there's no plants in here.
I don't know where the gnats came from.
I think they're coming from somewhere else.
I wish that we found out Nats were a delicacy.
We'd be lit.
But no, Alaska can crab lays?
That's lobster plus.
Yes.
They're like, oh, that's...
I don't even...
By the way, I don't even like them.
You don't like it?
Doesn't it taste the same?
No.
Crabbs are a little, have a little sweeter...
A little sweeter.
Yeah.
Situation.
I'll tell you right now, there's nothing worse.
Than just straight up crabs to me, though.
Oh, I can't eat the body?
Oh, no.
The going down and trying to eat crabs and the taking them apart and the breaking to get nothing.
The legs?
I'm not doing all that work.
It's all work, no payoff.
That's why I like the Alaskan King Crabb because it's bigger.
At least you get something.
You know what I mean?
Like people who love seafood boils?
What are the little joints called it?
Crawfish?
Yeah.
I don't understand.
Sucking out salt water and nastiness.
Back to crawfish.
I went when I was down in New Orleans.
Bayou, bro.
Back to the days of Bayou, bro.
Yo, order crawfish one time.
I don't know the name of the spot.
You know, they brought out a, no lie, a pile of shelled, still in shell.
Okay.
Crawfish.
Have you ever seen that where they just bring it?
And it's a pile of in.
It's a pile of ocean insects on your table.
Tentacles, the whole shebang.
I've never had it.
You put on an apron, gloves.
They give you a goddamn nutcracker and some weaponry.
And you just start tearing apart.
I'm good.
Insects.
It's a science project.
That's not a meal.
No, you're really tearing apart insects.
How much meat you're getting out of there?
A small little.
A tiny little.
I was like, this is, I'm the same with S-cargo.
By the way, I've had this conversation more.
S-cargo, not good enough for me to be eating snails, guys.
It's butter and oil.
You know what I like all the time?
Butter and oil.
So now you threw a snail in it.
I'm supposed to get the fuck out of it.
And your cheap, what's wrong with snails?
The frog legs.
No, no.
I've done it.
Not doing it.
Not enough meat.
Have you ever seen a frog leg?
I don't get a fuck.
How big the frog is?
There's not enough meat for it.
And then you're going to bring it out with these.
By the way, they put the leg on the plate.
No, I'm good, bro.
I'm never having that.
Never having frog legs.
Alligator.
I've had it unnecessarily.
Alligator so f like.
I've had alligator nuggets.
Literally cut up alligator.
Too chewy, bro.
It's all too chewy.
It's very chew.
So there was this restaurant.
back in D.C. that we love in Bethesda called Louisiana Express. Bro, we loved going there.
Their po-boys were slamming. They had the alligator joint. It was the joint. Although it was a tough time when
David Duke ran for president and he used to bring all his people by there just to go eat there.
Can you use that David Duke's restaurant? No, it wasn't his. It was ours. But they all started showing up because they're all from Louisiana and how many Louisiana
restaurants you have sitting around. So David Duke almost shut up, ruin the whole thing. Anyways,
the alligator's cool but too chewy and I don't want to think about an alligator it's like a fishy chicken
yeah yeah yeah what about ostrich you guys ever had ostrich no ostrich is red meat no ostrich no i have not
yeah yeah i don't know if i like the sound of that though what do you mean that ostrich is red meat
just having ostrich i don't even though that sounds like a lot of meat it's like the opposite of a frog
exactly you picture a frog you picture no meat i picture an ostrich i picture all meat plenty yeah bigger than a
a cow probably and some people like eat the egg as a delicacy that giant egg gross can i
switch the subject. I would like to send
congratulations to Friend of the Show
and Friend of the World
Miss
Bianca Belair and her husband
Montess for... Is it time?
Romeo Leonardo
Alan Crawford was born this
week and brought into the world.
Congratulations. So congratulations
to Bianca and Tess.
So, so happy.
I saw the little feet pose.
You saw the little feet?
So cute. Yeah. Super duper happy for them.
baby is here and also happy for wrestling fans because i feel like timing wise that smells like a
rumble return that's what that smells like to me because bianca's been gone for like a year and a half
wait yeah i mean let it take your time rumbles end of january so we're sitting here in the
beginning of august oh give her time no no no listen i'm not going to pressure bianca but
she is an absolute freak so in the best of ways no hold on not like that i mean her by i mean as an
athlete. She was an amateur run, all the things. So no, of course. If she needs longer,
take as long as you want. But she's been gone for a long time, not just pregnancy. She had
this finger injury where they botched the surgery. They didn't know what to do. They had to redo.
And then she got pregnant months and months into the injury. So it's been like 18 months.
Bro, but if she comes back at the rumble, I think it'll be like close to two years that she's been
gone. So listen, if it takes longer, it takes longer. It takes a lot.
longer.
But I think professionally a rumble pop out is probably the right thing to do.
I would say personally from the many women that I've watched try to recover professionally
after you need longer.
First baby and all that.
August, September, October, November, December, January.
It would be a full six months.
Six months.
It's good to get out a little.
I mean, Laura, I'm.
Yeah.
Like you even said this.
It was good to get out a little bit.
Yeah.
But also have the option of kind of like, all right, I've had enough.
I need to go ahead.
But Laura is one of my favorite people in the world.
She's also something called a moral human being.
What do you mean?
No, hear me out.
The idea of going to do something insane athletic endeavor after six months is insane.
I'm not even talking about the physical.
Oh, sorry, you mean the emotional?
Just working.
Just working, leaving the house.
Yeah, you don't know how anyone's going to be affected.
Yeah.
And maybe the idea of leaving Romeo.
No, it's going to hit.
It's going to be like, I can't do it.
Yeah.
So it's multiple factors.
It hits for you now.
Yeah.
No, no, of course.
And you didn't physically push the baby out.
Correct.
It hits for me now, though, harder than it did.
Now that there's a person saying, Daddy, where are you going?
She's not where you're going yet.
She's just it.
She's just it.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Or running, she will run after me.
Yeah.
But then once I leave, she doesn't know if I went out the door for five minutes or five days.
And then she forgot about you.
And when I walked back in after five days, she didn't act like I was gone for that long.
She was like, hi.
I was like, no, I've been gone for days, lady.
So it's different.
But Natalie, you remember Natalie went on a trip.
Yeah.
She went on a professional trip like three months later, four months later.
And she was okay.
For like three days.
Yeah.
She was a wreck,
but she was a wreck
because of the dog,
not because of the baby.
Yeah.
So that was a whole.
There was so many different things.
She had a lot of things.
She had a lot of things on the plate.
Emotion.
But the leaving an infant part for her,
she wasn't like,
it's she misses her now more.
If she,
she might miss her now just being out of the house
for six hours because she's such a person now.
You know what I mean?
It's harder.
It's harder.
It's harder when they start talking to you
and telling you like,
oh,
you're going to leave?
I know.
When are you going to come back?
I know.
Right.
Ebro, when they're just, oh, you're just saying.
She's there right now.
She's like, where are you going?
Why?
Why?
Why are you going?
Bye, daddy.
One more hug.
Yeah.
One more hug.
Wow.
Are you cheering up?
Yeah, of course.
You're cheering up now.
Crying all time.
So it's not in front of her, though.
Definitely when I get in the car.
Damn, that one sucks.
It hurts.
Because you can't let them see you upset.
Because that'll make them upset.
Yeah.
We're close.
I'm probably a few months away, I'm guessing.
Listen, my biggest concern.
right now and Berlanger just got here so we got a wrap but uh my biggest concern is
Saturday we fly she has in the last week elevated toddler level in the last week the trip will take her
to a whole other level she's she is now in such a running Natalie just Natalie sent me a video
yesterday of her in our little playroom that we have in the building just running in circles
around the thing like she's just she's now and now she's pushing buttons yeah I mean like
my buttons like hey don't do that
yeah troll
troll so like the flight does have me a little bit more shook than even our flight
from two months ago you just got to do it bro that's okay don't
have you uh you know what you maybe want to start doing
you she has headphones drugging her or alcohol um you have headphones
for her like things that she can listen like you put headphones on her and she
can hear it and she's like you know you know what i think we only have headphones
that cover her ears i don't think we have proper like little kid headphones
Get her some little kid headphones today, hypothetically.
Yeah, we need to do that.
And put them on before you get to the flight
and show her like, hey, let's watch a show.
You wanna watch your show?
Headphones on.
Because then it'll be exciting.
Not only she watching a show, but it's like in her ear
and she can be like locked in.
Right.
And then get other like little toys
that you can carry in a back van.
We took your, the unveiling of toys.
Yeah, yeah.
But not all at once.
Not all at once, no.
Not an animal.
I listen to what you say.
How long is your flight?
Um.
No, no, no, no, we're not going to Europe.
We're just going to Mexico.
Five.
Four, four.
Okay, you're good, girl.
Oh, you're going to the Yucatan Peninsula.
Yeah, it's close.
That's the closest one.
That's easy.
Famous last words.
But, like, and also in travel in 2026, like, are you going to sit on the tarmac?
Are you going to, no.
Lots.
So, we'll see.
All right.
Edgar.
Give it up for Edgar Belang on the program.
All right, what is this zoo for boxing thing?
What, wait, wait, what?
You want to describe it?
Yeah, I could describe it.
Okay.
Zoothing, the biggest in the game, you know, backed by Dana White, Nick Conn,
Paramount Plus Paramount TV.
It's a new promotion that's in the game now, you know what I mean?
And I feel like, you know, right now, you know, Dana has a target on his back with all these other promoters.
Right.
Obviously, I'm one of the first signings, one of the first signings.
One of the big signings.
One of the big, yeah, the biggest.
Me, Shakur, Stemason, Richardson, Hitchens, Connor Ben, who's.
who's fighting Ryan Garcia.
They have the Garcia-Benz fight coming up in September in Vegas.
All right, all right, all right.
So they're definitely like, he's putting on right now, you know what I'm saying?
Dana's coming in heavy.
The goal was, and, you know, there are people who love what they're doing.
There are other, you know, older factions that don't love what they're doing.
Traditionalists.
Traditionalists.
But the idea was is that one of the things that made UFC great is that Dana was able to have
all the fighters in one place and have a ranking.
system and have things make sense where with whatever issue you might want to have with a fight
etc what you can't be mad about is that the right people are getting fights because there wasn't
all the this the ibf guy doesn't want to deal with the wba guy so the goal of dana white and
nick con was let's start our own thing bring in as many fighters we can build it and have a proper
ranking system where people can kind of truly start to follow the sport in a way that makes sense
Okay.
That was the idea.
That's the mission statement.
And this is just starting right now.
No, like we're like almost a year in, right?
About.
We're six months in?
Okay, so it's you.
Six months in.
So Paramount Plus is where you're getting most of your ZUFA fights,
including one coming up from Ireland this weekend.
And Edgar had a fight of the year candidate against Butler in July at Madison Square Garden Theater for Zufa as well.
Incredible fight.
You were knocked down in the second round, I believe.
Yeah.
And then.
It was like a slip, man.
Did it count as a knockdown?
Did it count it out?
It counted out.
But I feel like it was good that that happened because that's when I went on beast mode after that.
Sometimes you need to get woken up.
Yeah.
But it was actually, it made the fight more interesting.
You know what I mean?
I feel like if I were just went in there, just like, this man through this dude so easy, you know,
the fans are like, oh, you know, but I made it an interesting fight, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm glad you brought that up because there are people who love boxing for the sport of boxing,
boxing and now we live in a time where the entertainment value of like the lead-in and the
promotion that's been going on for a while is also a part of creating interest right yeah um
i'm sure the reason dana white and nick con and zuffa is because you have a level of entertainment
value that you bring to also the skill set yeah for sure but you i want to ask the young before
you were a professional right when you're on up did you know that this was what professional
boxing was going to be like for you?
And is it meeting your expectations or it's very different than what you
expected?
No, no, for sure.
Definitely met my expectations.
I didn't expect to be this big in boxing the way I am right now.
You know, like after like, when I'm like 16 years old around the age, then I knew
I was old.
I could probably be like the next like Miguel Koto or some, you know, because that's people
I looked up to.
And your Puerto Rico.
Yeah, Puerto Rico, you know, Floyd Mayweather.
But damn.
man, I'm the 1% in boxing.
You know what I'm saying?
I actually make it at the pinnacle, you know what I'm saying?
I've been at the top of the level, you know, I've fought Canelo-Avarez in
2024.
Sure.
It was one of the biggest fights in 2024, you know, went to the war with him 12 rounds.
And I've experienced, you know what I'm saying, I just made a venue headlined
Madison Square Guard in July 26.
And not a lot of fighters, you know, how many fighters out there,
millions, hundreds of thousands of fighters out there that try to make it to where I'm at,
you know, and they can't.
How crazy did it feel?
and obviously you've been building now for many years.
When you got to the Canelo fight,
what did it feel like to be a part of something that gigantic?
Amazing.
Actually, it went viral.
I had a dream that I was going to fight him in September,
and it was around, this was around, like,
this was after my fight when I fought Padra McCormor.
When I became as mandatory for the WBA,
but no, I'm lying, this was like before the fight
that I caught to get the mandatory to fight.
to fight him for the WBA.
And I had a dream that I was going to fight him.
And my dream, he told me like, oh, I'm going to fight you.
Like, we're going to make history.
And I woke up the next morning.
I was trained out to my course.
Like, yo, Mark, we're going to fight this guy.
And in September, he was like, yeah, yeah.
He said, for real, I swear, I swear, Mark, we're going to fight him.
And I wound up catching a crazy kill.
And then we wound up finding him in September.
And it was just like a dream come true.
Was he cool to you through the process?
Because when you guys promote a fight,
you end up spending a good amount of time around.
the fighter that you're dealing with.
Yeah.
What was Canello like?
He was cool, you know what I mean?
I just feel like, you know, it was regular, you know, building up a fight.
I know he liked me, you know, as a fighter because after the fight, you know, he gave me a lot of respect.
But, like, during the buildup, I feel like he didn't like me.
You know, like, you know what I came with all my chains on and stuff.
And then we got into it in, and the last press conference was in L.A.
And we got into it, like, crazy.
Like, me and him was going back and forth, like, saying crazy stuff to each other.
And, uh, you speak Spanish or not?
Yeah, I speak Spanish.
Got it.
So that, you need that to beef with Canello properly.
Yeah, we was talking crazy in Spanish.
Like, who started it?
Um, you was getting spicy first?
You know you were.
Nah, no, no, no.
Say, bro.
No, no, no.
I don't even know.
That day, I was just, I was, I was hearing everybody.
I, Kayla plant was there.
I was, I was talking and Kayla playing the crowd.
I was just going crazy.
I felt like I was just on, like, I'm on real news.
On that Brooklyn bullshit is what it sounds like.
Like that stuff.
I was going in.
Why do you feel like, you know, why do you feel like people are, like, playing with you a little bit?
Or at that time, you felt like they wasn't giving you your respect, so you was just everybody could get it?
More like him.
I feel like he was, like, under the S-day made of me because I don't have that much experience.
He thought he was going to knock me out.
You know what I'm saying?
He didn't expect for me and him to go 12 rounds.
And me and him was, like, really total total whole 12 rounds.
Like, I was in front of him the whole fight and talking, like, shit to him, like, telling him, like, crazy stuff.
What would you say in the ring to Canelo?
Give us a quote.
One of them I told them was like, I could curse?
Yeah, go ahead.
I was like, Mama Thum Bicho.
Yeah, no, like Mama Thum Bicho.
Oh, like, Bicho like.
Oh, like Bicho like, suck a dick.
Like you suckers.
Yes, yes, yeah.
And then, um, y'all was, we was talk a cute son.
Oh, your mom sucks dick, bro?
He was like, yo, he was like.
No, Mama Te means like.
Mama they like, just suck a dick.
Oh, like two suck a dick.
Yeah.
Why are you trying to act like you have scared of slang?
No, I'm trying to.
I understand.
I was like, wait, what?
You're like, wait.
Your mom's a bitch?
Wait, no, your mom sucks to him.
I'm trying to understand.
Laura's like this.
Laura's like, no, no.
It will help me, damn it.
Yeah, yeah, we was talking nasty to each other.
Like, in the ring.
Oh, during the fight too.
During the fight.
In the fight, I was saying that to him.
Like, it was crazy.
He, like, walked off on me.
Like, it was a viral clip that, like, he walked off on me.
Like, he tried to, like, like, stun him.
Like, I'm easy work.
Like, he walked off.
It was like the, you know, like how they hit the thing for 10 seconds?
Yeah, yeah.
And when he walked over me, I got tight, and I ran to him,
and I threw a leap and Hulk, boom, and I cracked him,
and everybody started with the crowd was going crazy.
That's when I was, like, punching my shit.
I was like, man, what the lead you, okay, bro?
But afterwards, it was all of it.
Nah, after, like, I was hug out.
You take my life, bro.
Now, let me ask you a tough question.
You win, like, your first, what, 22 fights?
something like that?
No, my first 16 fights with first round knockouts.
First 16, wow, 16 first round knockouts than Mike Tyson.
So is it hard?
The last, you've lost two of your last four, though.
You've had two tough.
Well, obviously, one of them's Canello, decision at 12.
Do you start questioning anything?
Do things get harder at all when you're not used to losing at all?
Because there's often, there's two phases for boxers.
There's up to when you lose and then everyone loses.
So what do you do after the loss?
Has it been harder for you mentally or anything like that post-long?
Yeah, it was.
You know, I spoke about it during Fight Week.
It was tough for me, man.
Like, just, you know, coming off a loss, you know, you got to, like, read, like...
Calibrate?
Yeah, like, you know, I was in a dark place.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm tough, bro.
I don't like losing.
Like, I'm very competitive when it comes to anything.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we could do something right now.
I'll try to beat you, you know what I mean?
Uno.
I'm not going to, yeah.
Domino.
And if I know I'm not good at that, I won't try it, you know what I'm saying?
Because I hate losing.
Crumbling up paper, shooting for the basket, you're going hand.
Yeah.
And stuff like that.
And just, man, like, just coming off that and just having to, like,
find myself again, you know what I'm saying?
I got close with the law.
You know, I had a fast.
And, you know what I'm saying?
I had to really going to a dark place.
And I did that.
You know what I mean?
I was scared at first to be in that dark place by myself.
because I felt like I wasn't able to handle it.
So, you know, I was like drinking, you know,
I was drinking a lot, going out, partying and stuff, you know what I'm saying?
I was single at the time, too, so, you know, I was, you know,
messing around, outside with different girls and stuff.
Just trying to just like.
Randos.
Yeah, type stuff.
Just trying to, like, really, like, you know,
um, ease the pain, you know, and then.
And distract from it.
Yeah, and distract from it.
But I feel like every time, like, it'll be for that, for that moment.
And I wake up in the next day and it's like, it's back to.
that you know what I'm saying it's back to that so it was just to the point that I couldn't take it
no more I was like y'all I need I need to I need to repent man I need to do something I need to pray
I need to you know what I'm saying I need to get back in the gym I got to work you know what I'm saying
I got to it's not it for me you know I'm saying like I know I know I'm a more in me you know I'm
I know I'm a superstar you know I'm saying I know that you know that it's a minor subbed
for a major comeback and I found I found my way you know what I mean and and and Laura styles
apparently unbeknownst to I bro and I it turns out Edgar Berlang is a great
Great God.
No, he is because when he walked in, I was like, nice to finally meet you face to face.
So shout out to my girl, Knessa.
Shout out to Kness.
Yes, Knessa was working as his publicist at that time.
And Knessa works with me through the Envision Foundation.
So Edgar sponsored 30 of my girls.
Oh, nice.
First of all, they felt so fancy because they were nice sprinters.
They were like, oh, my God, this is for us.
And we went up to Cold Springs and took them for the day.
Oh, that was for that trip.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
The timing.
Mike, yes, and it was a beautiful, beautiful day for our girls.
So thank you so much, man.
I'll tell you again.
You're welcome.
You're really cool.
I do.
We'll talk to you.
We'll talk afterwards.
And it's this weekend.
It's popping off.
Yo, that's really cool, bro.
That's really cool.
Yo, so where in Brooklyn you from?
Bushwood.
I was born in White Corp.
And so you've been Brooklyn for Life.
Still there?
No, no, no.
Not Brooklyn for Life.
So my mom is from, like, Upper West Side.
You know, my whole family's from Douglas Projects.
Okay.
I'm low east side too, you know, Booch houses and stuff.
So like my mom was from my hand.
My dad was from Brooklyn.
So were you back and forth?
Yeah, I was back and forth.
I was always back and forth.
When you were coming up boxing, what gyms were you at in this?
You were in the city, right?
No, I was in Brooklyn.
You was in Brooklyn?
Yeah, I started in Brotherhood boxing gym across Rick.
Yeah.
And then we moved to Starwreck City.
Yeah.
It's pretty familiar, you know what I'm saying?
Danny Jacobs was there.
Saddam Ali, Kurdish.
You know what I mean?
That was like, it was in like the trenches for us, you know what I'm saying?
being young or whatnot and then um yeah just Brooklyn it was just Brooklyn until I turned pro
and then you know what I'm saying I wound up finding Mark and I wind up going to the Bronx and
training with him and by Jerome now move to Florida um reflect on your childhood too because I know for a lot of
young kids you know that keeps you out of trouble right you gotta be at the gym every day not for sure
you got to be there until mom come get you or you know what I mean or coaches making sure you
get home was that that was your reality too like definitely kept you yeah um so you know
So my, my, I really wanted, like, do a movie on my, on my life, you know what I'm saying?
Like, when it's all set and done.
But, so, like, two weeks, two weeks after I was born, my dad went, got incarcerated.
He was on ESPN.
He spoke about it, you know what I'm saying?
He shot up the China Club.
You remember the China Club.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, my dad was the one I shut it down.
Wow.
So he went away for seven years, and he came on when I was seven.
And then through that time, like, I was going through shit.
shelters and stuff with my mom you know what I mean like we was in the projects we was going through it
you know what I'm saying me and my mom my two sisters pops came home and um I started baseball for a little
bit and then he put me in the gym and boxing boy I started working started you know I fell in love with it
and then he went he went away again at when I was 10 he went away for like almost five years
went away you know the feds and stuff and um I kind of like I was I was I was I was young but I was old at the
same time.
Like, you know, I was outside.
Y'all had been through a lot, yeah.
Yeah, I was outside.
I was, I was fighting and stuff.
I already knew how to fight, so I was already in the gym, you know what I'm saying?
So I was fighting guys from different projects and stuff, you know what I'm saying?
I was having my little crew.
And by the way, my mom didn't know anything.
Like, she thought I was like the most nerdy.
Yeah, I used to come home like, hey, ma, you know what I'm saying?
But I was outside, you know, and then pops came home when I was like 14.
But my dad came home, you know what I mean?
Like, he came home like.
The second time he got it together.
Yeah, like where we educated on.
health and you know he had he got his degree for uh for personal training oh wow and he'll always send me
like letters like sending me stuff like with like bernard hopkins and like for me to stay disciplined
and stay in the gym he always called me making sure i'm in the gym which i was training but i was missing
days and stuff you know what i'm saying because i was like my pops in here my dad used to pick me up
every day from school to take me to the gym and then um pops came home like it was over from there
like i was i was nice in basketball i started i was about to go to d1 and everything
When my pops came on, I was like, yo pops, I think I'm going to go to NBA, bro.
He was like, what?
My dad got a strong Puerto Rican accent.
He was like, yo, man, you got to fucking focus on boxing, bro.
You know what you're going to be?
You're going to be the LeBron James.
You're going to be the Kobe Bryant.
You're going to be Camelo Anthony.
Embossing, nigger.
You're going to stick in boxing.
I said, shit.
Yo, but I was good in basketball.
I swear, yo, I swear to God.
I was nice in basketball.
I was real good.
But better in boxing.
Are you a better in boxing?
Yeah, of course, because, you know, I was more, I had more accolades, you know what I'm saying?
I was already national champ and stuff.
But basketball, like, a D1 coach wanted me, he wanted to pick me up on his team and everything,
like traveling team and stuff.
And I was good, you know, I used to play with, like, all the brothers and stuff.
I was the only Puerto Rican kid in my school and the projects, you know what I'm saying, around.
It was like, you know, Baruch and Lohie Sautis, like Baruch, Houston,
Alpha Beta City, you know what I'm saying?
So it's a lot of projects.
So I used to play with all of the brothers.
You know what I'm saying?
And I was the only Spanish kid cooking them.
You know what I'm saying?
Getting busy.
Look, he's still got them basketball dreams.
He still got the dream.
The sparkle, you still want to.
You still want to trial.
Keep it where you're still in trial.
Nah, no, no, no.
Well, it's a mixed bag because if you could have made it as a ball player,
even a mediocre ball player, like you wouldn't have had to be as good as you are at boxing
in the NBA to have made as much or more money.
But getting there as hard.
But the getting to the NBA part is such a bear, bro.
Like me.
And how tall are you?
I'm like six one.
Yeah, it's a bear.
It's a big.
It's tough.
Yeah, it would have been over.
I think I would have probably grew what you think.
Watercat playing?
No, no, I don't.
I don't think you would have grown.
You got that surgery with a, where they, where they broken your leg.
Yeah, I'm going to do that.
Well, they cut your leg and extend your leg.
Oh, so, so the next big, big Zoufa fight is in September.
Team Mobile, Ben versus Garcia.
Who do you like in this fight?
It's going to be a good fight.
You know, I'm 50-50 with that fight.
It's going to be good.
I think, you know, Ryan has a good left hook.
You know what I'm saying?
Ryan is a dangerous fighter.
But I feel like, you know, Conner Ben is eager.
You know, he see him training every day.
He's been training for already the past two months, you know what I mean, just working.
So he's hungry, you know what I mean?
And he don't want to take another, you know what I'm saying?
He's not trying to lose.
For me, 50-50, I think it's going to be an amazing fight.
So I got to be honest, I'm a boxing casual.
I'm a lifetime fan, but I'd call myself more of a casual, certainly, than an expert.
Well, if you're a casual, then I don't even watch box.
Yeah, yeah, then you're a casual, I've never watched.
I've never watched it.
But so I got to tell you, the other day, after our WWW event, I was talking to Joe Tessator,
who's the, you know, the voice of Zufa.
Okay.
And I was asking about the Garcia-Benn fight, and I was just under the assumption that Ben would win this fight.
And Tess was really put me on to that like
When Garcia is focused
He's a legitimate top tier prize fighter
Like he is not
Because I think of him as a
Frigin, you know internet YouTube star
Who likes to box and just acts like an asshole at times
25 and 22 knockouts Connor Bennett's 25 and 114 knockout
Yeah but but test was really put me on
He was like no when Ryan Garcia is focused
He's a legit top tier dude
You agree with that assessment?
I feel like he is
You know, I grew up with Ryan and the amateurs.
We was in national tournaments together for a lot of years, you know.
So we always made it.
Like he was obviously he's from Cali.
I'm from New York.
So we used to have to fight regionals.
He used to fight his region and his state, my state.
And then we used to always meet up at nationals, like different nationalals,
like ringside war nationals, junior golden glove nationals,
June Olympic nationals.
And he always been a special talent, you know what I mean, as well as me.
You know what I mean?
And him always was like the top amateurs.
But yeah, for sure.
So before any of us knew him and his social media antics,
he had still run the whole course doing all the proper boxing stuff.
Not for sure.
Yeah, hell, yeah.
Like, you would have to, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
But, like, it's funny because you started to think of him more for the antics at times
than the boxing, than the trained boxing part.
Because the antics were such a big part of his name getting big.
Yeah.
But I think that's kind of why one of the first questions I asked you
was kind of like this whole promotional entertainment part of,
boxing that like the that I hear the like you know true purest fans of boxing aren't really
into well but that's also what you were saying before we got into the air you were saying that
boxers could be weirdos yeah and it's part of that you think the spectacle like trying to make a
spectacle yeah I don't know why I just for like boxes I mean I'm I don't know it's from from New York
you know so like I'm cool like riches and hitches I'm cool like some New York fighters um but
like fighters from like other states I'm like you know what I'm saying like it's like I'm like
I keep, you know what I'm saying?
You keep a distance from a lot of them, you know, I think, I don't know.
They ain't been outside.
They goofy.
Just say they goofy.
And the spectacle brings attention, you know what I mean?
So that's really what it is.
And I, sometimes for the worst.
Yeah, but like at the same time, like for as good a fighter as Ryan is,
is Ryan the biggest name in the sport if he hadn't done a lot of the antics over the last several years.
Some people would argue the antics helped his pro.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I would say that's kind of why he's become the biggest name of the sport.
Like he's nice
He got he got a good like
He's doing the stream and stuff
You know what I mean
He's doing different things
You know and I think that's what like
What he counts and like boxing
You know like I feel like
What he's doing is actually good
You know but like you said like
He was actually like more a little bit more focus
He'll be like a bigger star for sure
Well I think too
This is the world we live in today right
Eyeballs
His name
Like you're saying
Because of the streaming
people want him on the card
because it's going to get
he's making he's making a
I don't know
he's making a bag for this fight
Yeah it's a lot of money
He's making a lot of money
He's making a bag for this fight
I feel like that too
Like you see like guys like
All these streamers and stuff
You see Jake Paul
Jake Paul been boxing for five years
He came into the sport
And he's making
bags
Big
Eight figures man
Like now do
Because now you're a professional
It is about the money
Also for you right
Like you, when you just...
It's always about them.
Right, right?
But legacy, too, you know, I feel like now,
I feel like if I'm chasing,
now I'm on, I'm at a point in my career where I want,
the bag is going to be there, I know for sure,
because at the end of the day, I'm a star, you know what I'm saying?
I sell tickets.
I'm a fly, dude, you know what I mean?
I talk shit, if I have to, you know, and I,
and the fights are good.
Yeah, and the fights are good.
People love knockouts.
And I bring everything, you know what I'm saying?
The whole package.
I think right now it's just about legacy now for me.
I feel like I start chasing world titles.
I become a world champion.
I start really dedicating myself to the sport,
like really, really like F trying to promote shit
and trying to do certain things, you know what I'm saying?
Just really focus on boxing.
I truly believe I could be as big as Canelo and Floyd,
and I have that type of aura.
Who's your ultimate hero in the sport?
Floyd Mayweather.
Number one.
Over Tito.
Nah, I say Tito number one, you know,
because he was the reason why I started boxing,
that I, you know, I love the sport.
And second is Floyd made with it.
I just love his business.
You know what I'm saying?
How you just, he just cooked the game.
And he just came with just a different or, you know what I'm saying?
You see me how I'm dressed right now?
It's because of Floyd made with it.
You know what I mean?
Like, we just need you to take care of your money better.
No, for sure.
We just need you to hold on for that cheddar.
We don't need a video of you crying about money.
No, no, no, no.
And you're from New York.
So you know, you're going to hear from us.
You're going to be like, yo, my man.
I know what I'm not.
You know what I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good.
I've got fat Joe.
I'm good.
There you go, there you go.
So how did you have...
Fat Joe be talking to you too, right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm good, I'm good, man.
How did you link up with Fat Joe?
Back in, like, 2018.
Shout out to C&O.
Cano from Miami.
He's heavy in the music.
And I was my dad was heavy in the music,
so my dad knows a lot of big people in the Spanish.
You know what I'm saying?
Like in the Latin music and stuff.
And he was cool with Joe.
And then he told Joe, like,
yo, this is this young Puerto Rican kid from New York,
bro, from Brooklyn.
I was like 8-0 when eight first-round knockouts.
He was like, yo, he's knocking everything out in the first round.
In fact, Joe, like, tuned in, put one fight,
and I wound him knocking this dude the fuck out in the first round.
And that's how, like, you know what I'm saying?
That he put him on the phone and we spoke.
And then I ran it to him, like, in Casadellas.
I was in Loiside with my mom and stuff.
And Joe walked in with a rich player.
He walked in, and we sat down.
We ate.
And then we just from right there, it was like,
became family, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he'd been locked in every fight.
He's at every fight.
You know what I mean?
And that's like my big brother right there, you know.
Fat Joe gives me all the sauce on everything in life.
Joe's everybody's big brother, man.
Joe's great, man.
Everything he says is true.
I remember one time, I don't know.
No, no, no.
Listen.
No, wait.
I'm just kidding.
Edgar, hang on.
No, no.
We got to put Rosenberg a check.
The internet got Rosenberg believe in shit that people don't know Joe like that.
He's just over-exaggerated on certain things.
He's the best storyteller.
He's the great stories.
And I remember one time,
Shout out to Hennessy.
Hennessy awarded me
for the Spanish Heritage Month
and they had a big dinner for me
I say less private dinner
and Joe came
or his wife,
rich player,
the whole TS came
and I was with a couple
I was young,
you know,
I was 2022,
I was a baby,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm just starting touching money.
You know what I mean?
I'm hot,
you know what I'm knocking dudes out
and, you know,
I had a little cruel guys with me and shit
and Joe was just sitting with me,
you know,
Joe just be,
he just be analyzing everything,
he's watching,
he's like,
you see,
You see these guys right here?
I was like, what's up?
He's like, you see these guys right here, man.
He said, you're going to see another two years.
You know, they're not going to be with you.
I was like, for real.
Like, he's like, you're going to see.
They're going to disappear.
And I said, damn, and two years later, gone.
Gone.
Gone.
I don't fuck with none of them.
I was like.
Because of their actions and who they were, because of what they were trying to get you
into and you was like, I can't be next to that.
Yeah, it's just you growing.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like I was just grown.
You know, you start seeing different things, you know,
people start doing.
You know, funny shit.
Funny shit.
And I'm like, man, I just started cutting dudes off
and just making my circuits smaller and smaller and smaller.
And everything he tells me, everything he tells me,
it winds up coming true.
It's crazy.
Well, Joe's been able, you know, to make it work
and be successful consistently and evolving now
for a long, long time.
And he was actually the first one to co-signed my record,
Baby Mama.
So you had a record out right now, too.
Wait, now I haven't listened.
On purpose.
I ain't listened.
You got to listen to it.
You want us to do right now?
If Joe, you know, I perform with Joe.
My first performance was with Joe.
Joe is one of the best hip hop.
So we have a thing in those of us that, you know, pay it.
No, no, no, Joe knows.
Joe knows a hit.
No, he knows a big mama.
I swear.
And I think he would have told you if he thought it sucked.
Oh, yeah, he would have told me 100% would have told me.
He'd be like, yo, stop.
Well, look, it doesn't even matter what I think.
If Joe says it was good, odds are it's great.
He loves it.
He loves it.
Now, are you rapping or singing?
Um
Sing like it's like a
Auto tune
A little bit
Kind of singing like like a Boogie like
Like how A Boogie be rapping and singing kind of
But like not A Boogie because A Boogie's English
Like he's hip-housed
Yours in Spanish
Yeah, okay okay
Okay
Let's see
But Joe
Joe
So is this part of a mixtape
You're putting out a mixtape or a whole project?
I want to do an EP
Okay
But I think I'm gonna do a single right now
I'm gonna drop a single
Another single
And then I'm working on an EP
So this is baby mama
Baby Mama
What's Spanish for me, bro.
Shout out to my baby, my mom.
Edgar Verlanga, let's see.
Wait, now hang on.
You always wanted to make music?
I love music.
Of course, we all love music, but did you always want to make it?
Nah.
But I always had the flow of an artist.
Like, everybody always thought like, oh, yo, you're a rapper?
Like, they didn't know who I was.
Like, oh, you're not a boxer.
They didn't know who I was.
Their first act, oh, you're a rapper.
Oh, yeah, because you could dress and you got style.
Yeah, yeah.
I look like a rapper.
You know, like if you don't know boxing, if you don't know sports, you'll probably think I'm a rap.
Yeah, you got some sauce.
Yeah, I got a little.
But your dad made music or?
Now, my dad was actually in the music.
Like, he was, he dealt his, like, best friend, which I call like my uncle, you know what I mean?
There's a white line.
Yeah.
Eli Rikers.
He's the one that discovered Don Omar.
All the baby are donuts.
Yeah.
I was like my father.
That's like my father's brother.
You know what I mean?
So he was like a music kind of a connect.
Yeah, my dad was supposed to be going to the music and start a label and everything.
But he wound up going away for the seven years and stuff, you know what I mean?
And he's like...
So they know what making records and what talent?
Yeah, my dad knows, too.
My dad knows.
Here we go.
Didn't expect that.
I didn't expect to be that good.
I was ready to shit on him.
Ready.
Arc Anhell and Anuel D'Oblei.
Ah, they're in trouble.
Y'all in trouble out here.
Who produces someone?
record. The billionaire, he produced Dalté, he produced Tola with Oroa Alejandro.
He got, he got, uh, that producer got like about like three diamond records, three platinum
records. This choice kind of official, bro. That sounds good. Now, Laura, I don't know what the hell
he's saying. What was he saying? Well, he's talking about his baby mama. What about her,
though? Like, people say a lot of things about their baby mama. Why does he always come to me to break
everything down? Because you speak Spanish. And you know, Ebro, he confused this.
everything. Yeah, I'm sorry, I have to sit down and listen to it a little more. Okay, okay, okay.
But what made you make this jump into music? So in 2022, I got a whole music video and everything
that I never dropped. And there was a kid from Loisada that was rapping. And he asked me like,
you know, like, yo, can I pay for the studio time? And I was like, yeah, hell yeah. So I gave him a
buck 50. And we went. I wound up going with him. And he had a song written on his phone.
And just me joking. And I was like, man, give me to.
I said, yo, what I say?
What's the words?
He was like, say this verse.
I was like, I wanted to the booth.
I was like, okay, all right, boom.
I said the words, boom.
I was like, let me hear it.
Oh, shit.
I was like, that's just something.
You were like, I'm kind of John Blake.
I got something.
Hey, right, hold up.
Let me go back.
I did another one.
You bullied this.
You debowed this man's whole song.
I was like, I'm like to take the whole song.
He was like, yo, you can't do that, bro.
I'm like, I'm like, I saw we do.
He's like, let's just go back to back.
I was like, all, so we go.
back to back. So you go, I go, you go. He's all, I bet. And we did it like that. And then like a
week later, I shot the music video of my projects. I was getting a haircut. I was getting a cut.
Like I had my barber like outside in front of the projects. Like with the cape on, I was getting
a head cut on my jewels on. Had all the cars outside or the, you know, the gauzes outside with
their cars and stuff, Maserati, Benz's and shit. I was sitting on top of the truck driving
through the whole, you know, through my whole hood. It was like a movie type shit. And then I show Fat Joe.
Fat Joe was, when I first told Fat Joe, I made a song.
He was like, stick to boxing, bro.
Yeah, exactly.
Sticks to boxing, bro.
You're a boxer, bro.
I said, bro, before you start talking shit,
can you listen to the record?
He said, all right, let me listen to it.
And I played that.
He was like, oh, shit.
Damn, you can put this person on that.
You can put that person.
See, now you're A&R and join.
See, that's Fat Joe.
But there still is a kind of a A, don't get.
Yeah, you do want to be careful, though, right?
Like, you don't want to put too much time into this while you're in the prime of your career.
No, I'm good
I know how to balance your time
But you're okay hearing from us all
When we're like, yo, you're getting too far off of the A
I can tell what he just said his response to me
Was a very polite shut the fuck up
Hey Rosenberg
Thanks buddy, I got it
Yo and uh
So then I wound up doing a music video
And then I was scared
I was like to drop it I was like damn
I was worrying about the people
I was wondering about like haters and my ems
It was a whole bunch of stuff
So I helped it
And I made the music video
I held it
And then next the following year,
2023, I met another song called Prosper.
It was like talking about my life
and then in English.
And then
2024, I was in Al Kang his house
and his producer was there.
He was like, yo, bro, he was like,
yo, bro, I know you do.
He was like, you gotta do a Spanish record.
And I was like, for real?
He was like, yeah.
I was like, yo, you can help me?
He was like, yeah, I'm gonna help you.
So we did a Latin trap song.
Fire and I put her,
I put our Slater on it.
Shout out to Slater.
Never dropped it.
left the day in the stash and then fast forward now to uh to February.
Yo, one day I mean shit, I was like in, I was in Orlando and I called the producer.
I called the engineer. I was like, yo, I don't know. I found the beat, the bama beat and I heard and I already knew.
I was like, yo, this beat is fire. I was like, bro, we got to go to studio.
Please. It was like 12 o'clock at night. He was like, bro, but it's man late.
I'm like, bro, I want to book this shit now. Like we got it.
Like son is time. We got to go into studio right now. He was, I bet.
We booked everything
Fucking may be a mama
We made Bay Mama but I didn't make
The whole song
It was like half the song
And yo we knew it was a hit
I was like
Oh my God
I felt it
I felt it I swear to God
I felt it that when I posted it up
Like I didn't even wait
I posted it up on my YouTube
The shit caught like 80,000 views
In like 8 minutes
Or 10 minutes
Quick
Like the little snippet
Yeah
And it was like you know
Dahlia baby my mom
He made with that on my mom
He was laughing
And it kept going
and I just kept posting and reposting it.
And I finished the song.
I just kept reposting and reposting it.
And that shit kept going.
Everybody was just hearing me like,
yo, we want the song, we want the song, we want the song, we want the song.
And I was like, yo, fuck it.
I was like, yo, I want to make a music video.
Like, I want to do a music video.
Spent like 15 grand on the music video, Miami.
Went in, you know what I mean, and dropped it.
Well, and I was reading the lyrics here.
All right.
All right.
he very much loves his baby mama, baby mama.
Yes, and we'll buy her lots of luxury products.
Yes?
Like, take her on trips.
Yeah.
Yeah, right?
I see something here about a hotel, a Ferrari spider.
Louis V.
It's pretty much the song.
Yeah.
Yeah, and he enjoys, how can I put it,
the way she takes care of him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and in return, he buyers are a lot of designer products.
So like, yeah, she takes Kim.
Do you have an actual baby mama?
Yeah, I do, I do.
That's not my, that's like a.
Not the person of the video.
How many kids you got?
I got like 10.
No.
You know with the boxer.
I'm like, how many?
I got one.
I got one.
I got my boy chosen.
How old is he?
Five.
Five.
He was just on the rookies, you know, the rookies.
Yeah.
Oh, you were over there?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Wait, what is this now?
The rookie's fashion show or all this.
Oh, yeah, with the kids.
Yeah.
I didn't know what that was called, but I see it.
You got the second, like, the big fashion show week in September for the Jaylen Brunson's sponsoring it.
Okay.
Macy's.
Yeah, yeah.
Or something like that.
That's dope.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's dope, man.
That's really, really cool.
Hey, man, the music sounded pretty good.
So you're going to let the single sit right now, maybe do another one.
No, we'll see where it goes.
Ebro, you willing to give it a co-sign?
It's a good song.
Oh, hey.
You got a, you know, I was ready to be like, yo, man.
It's cool, bro.
Now, what I will say, though, is I see a lot of joy in you making a song that you know people like it.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, like this.
Obviously, you're doing it for the feedback, right?
Obviously, you get compelled, inspired, you make a record, boom, you get positive feedback from it, right?
So that's great for, like, just you to have something else other than looking for validation in boxing, right?
So I think that's also mentally probably very healthy for.
Yeah, for you know what I mean?
But it also won't always, but you also, it won't always be there.
And you don't want to like, there will be a time when you make one and put it up.
And it doesn't run up the same way.
No, but I, yo, listen, I'm not going to lie.
He ain't going to consider that.
No, listen, I played, I played songs that I got, like, ready.
Like, I played it for Joe.
And Joe is like, you're a really good impressionist.
You may be better at impressions.
I remember I showed him in a truck.
I know that move.
Who's going to go perform me and him?
I didn't know I was going to perform.
He was performing, you know, like,
lean back, you know, all his hits.
And then he was like, we got Berlanga here, you know.
He was like, he got a hit song, baby mom.
And they started playing pass with the mic.
It was probably about like 2,000 people there.
I was like, oh, shogra.
He's your chance.
I'm like, yeah, I started going.
You know, it was dope.
Well, and I like that Joe staying close to it.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he will, before we get it, he'll let you know that.
Yeah, for sure.
So we may never not hear the bricks, which is good.
Yeah, I got.
I got some stuff, man, like Spanish and English.
Yeah, but you know, Zupa Boxing.
All day.
Yeah, let's focus on the Zufa boxing.
No, but they love it.
Listen, man.
And it's great, by the way, it is great promo.
No, and how about this?
It's another kind of promo out.
But how about this?
I already thought the coolest thing I could ever see a Puerto Rican boxer doing music
was when we went to the Bad Bunny show in Puerto Rico and Tito Trinidad came out.
Yes, that was.
But with Bolanga one day at the Bad Bunny show,
when he comes out of the house,
he could grab the mic and jump on a record.
Or Neho Molo might jump on your rack.
Do it for Puerto Rico.
Do it for the island.
I'm not distracted.
It's actually a good thing that I'm doing the music.
It gives you something else to focus on also.
Because look, right now I'm off.
Right.
I don't have none.
You know, I train probably about an hour and a half in the gym,
and I don't have nothing else to do.
Right.
So now I can, like, focus on music now.
You know, I can get my time for like two months,
focus on music,
songs. You know, people ask it for music. Like, yo, bro, when you drop in the next one, I'm like,
damn, this shit is real. Well, and you're making a song about the woman who make sure that you
stay focused. More music about this helps you stay focused.
Absolutely. We don't need to go back to when you was 22. No, no, no, no, no. We don't need that.
And I's actually like, now I was like, all right, if I'm an artist now, now, now, yeah,
I really got to pay me just like, you want to, you know, hosting and stuff. And there's a
walk through. Well, and instead of doing respectfully, instead of doing goofy things,
instead of doing goofy things for attention, making music to get outside attention.
It's pretty dope. You know what I mean? For sure.
I'm trying to get a fat Joe and jump on a remix. There you go.
I'm trying to, you know, put Fadjo on the remix and crazy. A couple more artists.
Edgar Berlenga. Yo, thank you, bro.
Yes, good luck, man. When it's next fight time, come back through and we'll promote the next fight.
Yeah, for sure. A thousand percent. Even with my new record. Yeah, exactly. And the new record.
Not me?
This music,
that he's gonna keep coming back.
No, you're serious about the music.
I see, I see Ero's singing baby mom when he goes home, man.
Y'all give it up, Edgar Belanger.
Thank you for blessing the show, man.
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