The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 164.) Ebro Got Bullied In The Gym?! + What’s Going On w/ Boxing? (8/17/26)

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are all back together! Rosenberg talks vacation, Ebro gets bullied, they discuss the Will Smith & Jazzy Jeff origin story, Laura Stylez talks about Doja Cat's shots at Tyga, and so much more! (8/17/26) Hear more of the show on Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro-Lora Rosenberg shows. Yeah, boys and girls, boys and girls. Ebro-Lawar Rosenberg, back. It's a little bit of rain in the city if you're in a tri-state this morning. As you probably know, if you're moving around, if you haven't started moving around, well, supposed to clear up later.

Lauren's got the rundown. Rosenberg's back for fake hay. And there's a fly here still. Another gnat. God, we've been trying to get them. No, she's a little one. Lou, your plan, another plan. What's going on with the light over there that's supposed to track the gnats?

Yes. There's bodies in there. Yes. He brought it a contraption of some sort. So we need to talk to the building supervisor, Griff, and let them know we're having some sort of air conditioning, Nat issue. You think they're coming from the hallway? Oh.

Oh boy Oh boy Here we go Well listen I'm happy to be back I enjoyed the stuff that I heard from you guys last week The Rob was great Jasmine was great Vic Mensa conversations seemed great

Yeah It's all good stuff Quality program Yeah And you mean even when you're not in it You can still watch it And you felt like you received some intel Yeah no I thought it was good

I thought I mean listen I was in on those people Obviously they're great people We've been thinking Jasmine would be good since we first had her up here. Rob, we've always thought was, you know, terrific. But you never know how the gel is going to gel. We coagulate pretty well. No, we coagulate. Other individuals when they step in.

I agree. I agree. And we need that coagulation. We do. We got to do it. But I was more talking about the info. Like, I've been thinking about a lot about the ELR show and what purpose it could serve in people's lives. Right?

Because it's not your traditional format. to just sit around and chit-chat, like we get to things. And it's an hour, right? This main kind of portion. The main thing's an hour. And we try to cover off on the goings-ons, like the things that maybe you heard about, maybe you need some more detail or you just want to see some individuals that you might have a relationship, which would be Ebro-Laura and Rosenberg.

Right. And how they may feel about the different goings-on. Sure. And you feel like you got that when you watch. Yeah, the stuff that I saw, I mean, I didn't listen to the entire show, but the stuff that I saw felt like the things that were the conversation and I was like you know I thought we hit some of the important stuff

now and I like that it was music and there's a lot of music based stuff yeah which was I was a little jealous of because I've been saying to everybody I want more music stuff there's just not enough sticky music stuff but last week there was a few sticky the tiger thing the Drake dating thing like there was fun musicy related conversation

yeah not just politics that's right or the misery of our horrible you know existence Well, I got a lot of feedback this weekend on our show, and I did hear that they love the balance. They say they want to tune in, at least from the people that I heard. I want to tune in to hear about politics. I want to hear that. I want to hear about what's going on in hip-hop. I want to hear music stuff.

Hip-hop politics. Yes, pop culture. And I want to hear you guys talking-ish. Okay. So they were happy with the overall blend. I think we all agree. We all agree that we have days where it's like we harp. in on the state of art of the horrible world,

which is naturally hovering above us all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And it's hard. You don't always have a day where there's a music thing to grab onto. Well, then we have this today. Go to clip one. I found this on, this is in Ebro's Algo, and I made a, I made a,

I don't know what this is. Yeah, don't worry about it. It'll be good. How often is Ebrose Ago bad? When? Ask the chat. How often is he? Ebrose, I'll go bad.

Bad, I think bad's strong. How long does the video go on long? And I go, I got the point after the first 60 seconds. The person's still explaining the news story. That happens. Yeah, but you have short attention spent. But your hip-hop, your hip-hop things like this, I have faith in, so I'm excited. Let's go to clip one.

I got a call to do a house party on, I want to say, 59th in Woodcrest in Winfield. And I picked up the phone and I called the MC that I had at the time, and he didn't answer. He wasn't home. So I went to do the party by myself. Took my equipment, went up to 59th one request. What I didn't realize is it was right next door to Will's house. So Will's whole thing was I'm trying to figure out who they got to do a party on my block aside from me.

And then when he saw me, because I was pretty known in the city at the time, he was like, oh, they got Jeff. So Will came down when we were setting up, and he was just kind of like, where's ice? Because that was the guy that was with me. And I was like, he never answered the phone. And Will was like, you might be. if I rock with you tonight and I was like no and it was one of the most amazing nights that I had

and when we were finished and packing up the equipment we were laughing and joking and talking about how good it was and I was like hey I have a function on broad and masters tomorrow do you want to come and he was like yeah and that was 40 years ago now I want to shout out to at tallest tails this is the first you can follow him on Instagram but that was the first thing I've ever seen from I started following the account because I thought it was really dope voiced by Jazzy Jeff the origin story of jazz you have and the fresh prints. Is this tallest tales thing original content or are they pulling from

interviews? He's told us that story. I mean, that's the story. I have no idea, sir. I just saw the Instagram and I thought I would share some music coolness on ELR. I didn't go any deeper than that. It's cool. I did like it. That was pretty cool. I mean, it's, I just I was trying to gauge when you were shouting them out. Is it like they're creating

things or how do I say this nicely? Is it an AI slot platform? Is what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't know, but I saw it and I thought it was cool. So I wouldn't be able to gauge that. I'm not, we're not asked, no, you would not be an AI slop. Well, and I also would just appreciate the effort. Yeah, no, it's clearly, if you're calling it AI slop, it's theirs.

It's their slop. Yeah, and, and Jazzy Jeff was added in it. So maybe it is. Maybe it wasn't, I mean, it was like, you know, they were adding all of the people involved. I just wanted whoever, the MC ICE, you played just missing the party. Yeah. I'm sure he's been feeling that for years. Well, I mean, listen, I'm sure ICE moved on, you know, because it was...

Still, it hurts. But he wasn't going to be Fresh Prince. He might have been able to rock with Jeff and be a great party rocker with Jeff. He wasn't going to turn into... We don't know what his capabilities are. You think he would have went on to win, like, Oscars? I don't know. But that first album, he's the DJ I'm the rapper.

Yeah. I mean, you don't have Fresh Prince without that album. But you also don't have that album without Fresh Prince. Who else can do what he did? I don't know. I don't know ICE's capabilities. I know, but parents just understand those records. By the second album, don't ever forget.

Rock the house. Listen, first of all, parents just don't understand. Don't. Okay, I mean, it changed hip-hop. It has to be knowing. Brand-new funk. No, Brandon Funk's the one. That's why it's where you think the backbeat they use for that.

Brand-new funk. It's just a reverie. Out of the ordinary. It's rather rare. You guys, it's very, very, very. You seen the video that moves around of Gilly wrapping it to Will? No. Wrapping what?

Parenthood, brand new funk. Oh, no, I've never seen that. There's a video with Gilly and Wallow are like wrapping brand new funk super hard when Will was on their show. And do you guys remember, let me just jump ahead, you won't because you don't remember any of my ramblings from over the years. When I saw Will Smith driving in lower Manhattan, this is like 15 years ago? No, we don't. And he was driving around. This is a great story.

None of you all remember this story? No. I swear to God, their listeners going like, I remember the stupid story. Anyways, he was driving around, and they were shooting men in black two or three or whatever. I think I remember that part. And all the retro cars.

I was like, damn, this is weird, all these retro cars. I do remember. Oh, wow, that's an SUV. Big black SUV. Oh, shit. That's fresh prints. I see him in the car. And I was driving around shooting something for MTV,

and I had the people. I was like, yo, let me connect the thing. And I connected to their stereo. And I turned on brand new funk and put it up to like 50 and rolled the windows down. until Fresh Prince rolled down the window and stuck his head out. I was like, yeah.

Wait, how did you get from Gilly and Wallo rapping it to you? It always reminds me of that I have a brand new funk story too. I think all people who love the hip-hop part of Fresh Prince, brand-new funk is the one. And Charlie Mac's first out the limo. Yeah. Shout to Charlie Mac.

He is first out of the limbolema. He is, always. And first at the football game, and first at the basketball game. First at everything is Charlie Mac. Laura, what are you working on in the rundown? Let me see. A couple of things.

You know, Doja has some words for Tyga over his album. Okay. Pitchfork decided to rate his new album and they are coming for him. I mean, is it causing people to go check out the album? What do people actually feel about the album? Good question. Does anyone actually listen after they? After all the critique, did they actually go, you know what?

Let me go hear this. And were they like, I mean, it's actually good. It hasn't caused me to go listen. But then again, I haven't really gone out to the. listen to many Tyga album. No. However, it's moving around the internet when I said last week on Rap Life Review on Apple, I was like,

yo, low-key, Tiger every year for like the last 10 or 15 years is on a huge hit record. Yes. He does do that. I want to push back on every year, but I'll say every other year. Okay. It's a bunch. It's a lot of hits. Consistency. By the way, I was taking a back.

Gaffaude even. Flabbergasted. I was like, yo, this guy don't stop. No, he's got a lot of hits. Considering I would never like rush to listen to an album, respectfully, the hits are there. There's no question about it. Yeah. And then there's a story that I'm really passionate about, about surrogacy and how now it's become even more political and these right-wing activists are trying to like, you know,

I truly feel this is all political theater and they are going to try to come for surrogacy. So we'll talk about that. So is this like one of those pre-midterm warmups? Last week it was transgender. This week it's surrogacy. And, you know, fertility and what women should be doing with their bodies. It's very convenient to provoke some sort of emotion because I'm watching the plays. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The plays being run. I have to pay, sorry, guys, I have to pay attention. Yeah. Because while I do think these, you know, conversations can be useful, you know, when done correctly, I think they're done in a way to provoke emotion before the midterms. It's a research project. some people will call it a sciop, a psychological operation as they do research on what people will actually care about and what they could put in their commercials leading into the midterm.

Yes. For sure. You know what I mean? Now Rosenberg, vacay. How was it? Oh, vacay was great. Vacay was nice, man. It was very relaxing, just chilled out at a resort.

So it was an actual vacay. Yes. There was a real legitimate vacation. There was some back and forth between me and Natalie about do we need to be doing more on this? Like she feels like we're in another country. Like we're in Mexico. We should be doing stuff.

And I'm like, I feel you. I feel you. But I'm also on some, this is the stuff. Like we got to wake up and each day, the entire day the two of us were there with the baby. Yeah. Like to live that life of like, we wake up, we go to breakfast together.

By the way, biggest vacation for Nat is, at all inclusive bro. First of all, this place has a fantastic breakfast. Not a bullish. You know, sometimes they'll bullish the breakfast. Of course.

They lay it out and you're like, all right, bro, these eggs are whack. You're not putting any effort. This was a really beautifully done breakfast. So every day you look forward to breakfast and Maya got to have her smorg of hits.

And Natalie didn't have to work. I mean, she could just set up, here's all the different things she likes. Yeah. And Queen Joffrey would sit there and she would eat and, and, you know, do what you would do.

Be a kid. That is the vacation. It is. You're not preparing food. We're just dropping it down. And then we're relaxing together all day. And there's no schedule. No schedule, you know.

That's the real. I know. I'm like Natalie, though. I like to do stuff after a while. I'm like, all right, so what are we doing? Well, I'm like Peter. Thank you. Okay.

So you got to go to, everyone says you got to go to Isla Mujeres. You have to go there. All right. Well, what is Is Isla Mujarez? Oh, it's a pretty eye. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. This beach is prettier.

I gotta get on a ferry with the baby in the stroller. And then we're in the sun. And then we're there for his long. The, the pool scene here is just a view of palm trees and ocean and then they come. Yo, the drinks at this place. Oh my God. They weren't shiasty with the drinks. Because sometimes it's another thing they do.

Water down. No, bro. But I will tell you guys. something that in the last few years has happened at the all-inclusive that did not use to be a thing at the all-inclusive. At least I don't remember it like this or maybe at that time I wasn't the one paying the bill

so I didn't care. Okay. They show you the bill of everything you order. Right? Okay. I don't remember this. I don't remember that at the end when you're like loosely ordering because, hey, it's all included.

Yeah, we want that role and that sushi place Want that rolled? Tempora? Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Great, it's all included. But then they come and show you. Well, this is how much it costs, you know. As you see, it would have been 4,500 pesos. I've never experienced that.

It's zero, but you can tip the amount you want. I've never seen that. So here's the 15% on the all inclusive. But we want to, but instead of it being like, it's zero, what do you want to tip? I'm gonna throw them 10. I'm gonna throw them 20. Instead, it's, you're just,

doing the exact tip math that you're all so they get you so they still are upselling you all day long because like you want another drink you want to double you want to because it's all going on the bill to up the tip all day oh you had to tip on the bill yeah you're tipping you can't just give them cash and keep no you could you could if you just always had cash in your bike but they're showing you the amount they expect every time yeah because they're trying to get to tip so instead of just hitting with like a 20 it's like a no well you actually have 27 did you ever the person so when you go out and you sit at the chair and they put the towels down. Yes.

You tip. That I would hit them with cash. Yeah, yeah. I just have. And then the person who's kind of like, you know how there's like somebody in a section that's telling, hey, the towels over here, you hit them off. That would be one and the same. There would be one person who set you up and.

And you still, and so that person also wasn't bringing you the food to? No, the different person. And then that bartender is coming or the waiter and they're taking care of you. And by the way, great service. Yeah. Especially the good ones because they realize, yo, if I get these people drunk and serve them food all day And again, we're at the pool.

Oh, let's get Maya Cazidia. Yeah. Let's get her a fruit plate. Yeah. Let's get her at this. And so at the end, I just found it funny. I was just like, oh, so this is the hustle of the all inclusive. It's all inclusive.

Right. Because at the end, you see the bill at the end. You know, you're not signed up your room. Now, if they didn't show you the bill, because it's psychological, right? The whole play is psychological. The whole play psychological. If they hadn't shown you the bill, but you had. been tipping the whole time, would you feel the same way?

No. It's that feeling of look what you should be giving us. Right, right. I hear you. And here's the number. You want to get 15? You want to give 20? So that means that people aren't tipping.

That people aren't tipping. And they figure, you know, we got to figure out a guilt plan. I just, but it is interesting. I guess assuming that money properly goes to the people who get it, I'm glad that plan is in place. Because those are the people who need to get paid. Yeah. I'm not concerned about the place that's making a good.

million dollars getting more. Right, right, right. You want the people who are busting their ass. And by the way, their service was incredible, like really high level service, really good food and drink. So you didn't even mind? No, I didn't mind. It was just funny.

I just noticed that. You had all the pluses, though. You had good service, good food, and the drinks were good. Because, you know, that's always fishy in these all-inclusives. You never know. Yeah. So it sounds fabulous. We did, we did also, there was a big controversy

on the trip because at the beginning they hit us with the, we want to take you on a tour. Oh. I was just about to ask you about the tour. tour. Okay. You want to go on the tour? You know, in the lobby, they were stressing you in the lobby.

You weren't that. They got you. Mine was with a timeshare. No, that's what this would have been to. It would have been a tour for a time share. We didn't do it in the end. And it became the joke of the trip. Because first of all, Natalie's family, who all they did was travel in her childhood.

Her dad was always taking the tour back in the day. And they'd get mad stuff out of her childhood memory. Wait, what comes out of the, I've never. So first of all, never taken the tour. What stuff can you get out of the tour? So Natalie was saying that back in the day. day, they would get like full free things out of the tour. Like it might be a night at a place or like, um, without opting into the time.

Just the tour. Here the tour what they wanted to give us. And you know, if you know my wife, you know she likes to question afterwards what we should have done. They wanted to give us like, uh, the couple's massage half off and the, the, the ferry to the island free. Oh. And stuff like that.

But I didn't feel like going on the tour. I was just like I'm not I'm on vacation to not have conversations with strangers I like where you're at so I don't want to do it so because she have done the tour without you no no what they need the whole family stop me oh oh and then they called in the morning and Natalie's like it's them it's about the tour I was like she was like she was like she's like she tried once she was like you got to do it so I got to do what you can't say no No, stop. She did.

She did and they wouldn't stop. They called back. Yeah. They got tight. They went to some old school. Yo, because if you caught, look, I'm going to tell you right now, when I'm on vacation, when I'm at any, any hotel, I'm already annoyed by how often they knock on the door. And call.

Uh-huh. Bro, do not call my room ever again. They would have got that. No, no, it's Ebro's worse than that, though. When I told this lady, we're not going to do it. And she kept pushing. You would have thought I was saying to her. Like, she might as well have been saying to me like, but, Signor, if you don't go on the tour, they're going to pull the plug on my mother's machine.

Oh, my God. Like, she would not accept, no. Like, it was like, she was like, well, we could just, I was like, ma'am, I can't. I just can't. I can't. I can't. I'm not. I'm not.

And a couple days later, it kept happening. We would do some things like go to the roof and we found that on the roof, they had this dope adult pool. You can't bring the kids there, but it was a vibe. It was more like a Miami pool. Okay. Overlooking the water with the infinity pool. And we didn't know until the last day. We kept being like, we should have gone on the tour.

We kept finding things later we really didn't know about from the property. Oh, man. With me, Rosenberg, it was like as soon as you got there in the lobby, they jammed us up for a time show. I was like, absolutely not. No, no, no, no, no. Then later on, the same lady was our concierge. And she was like doing like, you know, I can get your reservation at this restaurant. Do you know this bitch canceled?

my reservation because I finally was like, ma'am, I do, I am, I'm telling you right now, I am not interested in the timeshare, please don't ask me about it again. Ebro, this was after five times. She canceled my reservation. So you know, I took my ass down to the lobby, looking for her. No, you did. I did.

See, this doesn't sound like vacation. Now we're looking for her. Yes, and I told the manager, I was like, yo, she canceled my reservation. I was like, and then he was like, no, let me check. Oh, yeah, she canceled your reservation. They go hard for the time, they go hard for the time. But like, In retrospect, maybe I should have just taken the tour.

You know, it's got out of the way. I know, but then, like, we felt bad. We said, I, guys, this is. Wait, but you said, in retrospect, you should have taken the tour because. Just because we would have maybe liked to have gotten the massages. And the eye, we were like, yeah, we don't feel. We get it. You weren't going to be able to use the massage, bro.

You have a child. I know, we would have switched off for something like that. I don't know. I don't know. You're right. Who cares? Who cares? And we get massages.

Like my, who cares? And. You did the right thing, man. But I feel. guilt about stuff like this. Like I'm sitting there at breakfast feeling guilt like damn that lady. And then we walk out.

Yo, there's 90 people on tour, bro. They're doing mad tours. This is the hustle. Why am I acting like they sat around like, I can't believe the Rosenberg won't go on the toe. But the highlight slash low light of the trip. I'm not going to call a low light. It was fine.

The moment for me that was the most interesting is. Interesting. Interesting. I only had a few conversations. Interesting. I only had a few conversations, thank God, with anybody who knew who I was, which is great. It is even in the validate me world that my brain lives in, the one place I truly keep my head down and don't want eye contact and don't want talk is at a resort. Yeah.

You don't, because you're there. You're there. A, you're there. But just no, more people than by more people don't bother you than do. Always remember. You mean like when you do meet them? No, no, no. Meaning people saw you.

Oh, and didn't say anything. And we're like, oh, there's a woman. Yes. Yeah, no, I had a couple of weird ones. You know, the white guy who grabbed my arm and goes, yo, what's your name? I'm like, who talks to people like this? You have to be white. Only a white does this.

Grabs me. And you barely, and I can tell you want to say your name. He was like, I was like, Peter. You know what's your laugh? I was like, bro. Who starts a conversation like this? Leave me alone. Like, if I didn't know who someone was that well, I would never think to bother them

and then play a guessing game in their face. I know, I know. Like, just wait. People out of their mind. What's wrong with you? If you don't know who I am, it's okay. Anyways, met a couple lovely people. Yes.

Whatever. So one day I'm in the shallow, the little shallowy baby water that you know quite well. That's right, okay. It's like pavement with water on it and sprinklers. Perfect for a baby.

Yes, and then it leads into a little bit of a deeper pool. Yeah, perfect in that you have to stand close enough that if they get too close to the edge, you have to keep running after them over and over again because she can't swim you. So at some point, this little girl is over there, and I noticed that she's playing with Maya's bucket.

And Natalie says, keep an eye on Maya's bucket. And I'm like, okay, cool, no problem. We'll make sure the girl doesn't walk away with Maya's bucket. No problem. Whatever. God. So I'm keeping an eye on the bucket. Is Maya caring about the bucket at any point at this time?

Yeah, not at this moment, no. At other moments, she has her little shovel. But in this moment, she's off doing stuff else in the bucket. Yeah, no, no, it's not urgent. Yeah. It's to keep an eye, and we should don't want to lose the toys we brought. That's all. Right.

So I am. And then a guy comes over and says hello and blah, blah, and then quickly is like, are you Peter Rosenberg? And I'm like, and he's a great guy. Chee Pete fan, talk and wrestling, positive vibe. Positive guy, positive vibe. Win. Having a chat.

And as the chat is progressing, Maya catches wind of the bucket and wants the bucket. and this five-year-old girl who is the guy's daughter will not give Maya the bucket back and he's not paying attention because he's again a lovely guy but he's talking to you he's talking to me about Roman Reigns you know or whatever and I'm you know while I'm

that's the high chief not the high chief that's Peter by Via that's the OTC it's the original tribal chief exactly so so I'm pleased with our conversation, but I am a new parent and I am obsessed with what's going on with my daughter and this girl who won't give her the buck. I'm just keeping an eye on it.

And Maya's coming over and the girl just kind of turns away with the bucket. And I'm like, okay. Let me let Maya try to feel this out for a second. And then at one point when Maya comes over and tries, she literally sort of yanks it from her. Like, no. And gives her like a nasty no. And I had to, bro, he, he was never going. Again, this isn't his first child, he told me also.

This is like his youngest. So he also just may not be as dialed in at this point. Yeah. I don't want to judge. But I'm like, you know what I'm in, man, I'm going to have to weigh in here. And while you're chatting me up, I'm going to have to like discipline your daughter. Is this where we're going? Because she won't stop being mean.

Now you're just being mean. It's been like five times now. Oh, I'll have step. Shut the combo. You should. And I said, so I had to jump in. I'm like, and I say his daughter's name. And I'm like, hey.

can you let Maya use the bucket? And she's like, it's not hers. I went, no, no, no. It is her bucket. That is her bucket. She's like, I'm not sure. He's still, the guy's still talking to me. He's still not paying attention.

Oh, my God. You got to talk to him. You got to say, hey, can you? So at some point, the way I did it in like a nice way was that part ended. And then there was another second where something happened. And I loud enough to kind of end our conversation said to his daughter's, I'm like hey so and so why are you being why are you being the heel because we're having a wrestling conversation yeah yeah yeah I'm like why are you playing the heel

and that kind of caught his attention he was like hey are you being the bad guy to Maya and then like it got better and we like moved on but bro it was like three minutes of stress yeah yeah for sure well you'll learn next time that you'll turn to the parent as soon as it one thing two things the age you want to give him a second right you want to like let your Well, yeah, but Maya's young and a girl is older. So Maya, the girl already knows what she's, the older kid knows what they're doing. Yes. It was more.

Five and an 18 months. More. More than Maya knows how to handle said situation. Right. Yeah. She's a baby. Right. And even, and by the way, even if they're the same age, you kind of got to go, hang on a second.

Let's see what's going on here just in case they go fisticuffs. Because five, six years old, they could push them over. No, no, no. No, I'm saying if it's two four-year-olds. Oh, oh, same age. And they're pulling. And they're like, no, it'll go up. They'll go for it.

It can go up. Oh, I'm sure, yeah, Ease, you know, I tell you all the time, ESA has monster mashed people out here. Straight, much, took them by the face, shoved them around, took the, like, it'll happen fast. And you got to like, hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is awkward, though, because I told you, this happened in one of my, uh, my, Kansas recital. This lovely woman came up to me saying how much she loved our show.

And as she's telling me, Kenza had already tell me about a girl who was like pushing her around. And I was just like, so I already had that in the matter of mind. Yo, why did Kenza goes up to me? And the mom is with the daughter. She's the one that's been pushing me around, mommy. She's been hitting me and pushing me. And then I was like, oh.

And then the girl, the bully starts crying. So it says awkward. I was like, I was like, she's like, oh my God. I was like, they're kids, man. It's okay. But let's be nice to each other. I was like, nice meeting you. I grew kids and they left.

Oh, my God. It's such an awkward combo of feelings of like you're being nice and supporting me. Right. But the thing that I care about most is this child and the child isn't. Yeah. And you had to talk with Ken's after that. Next time somebody puts the hands on, you crack them. Oh, exactly.

100%. Crack them. Well, we're not at Crackham territory yet. No, you're not at Crackham. No. Because she doesn't really no time and place. And this wasn't quite crack. Velasito.

It wasn't. No, it wasn't. We weren't near Crackham. But when a parent. is trying to overtalk you it happened as i was telling the story up here was that last week solace at the playground maybe the week before and it's saying with a dad who was just kind of halfway paying attention while his daughter was kind of like trying to take a toy from salasi and i watched and i watched and it was just kind of like and then he finally caught on and jumped in it was like two or

three little exchanges right but he caught on and then the parents you have to get in and you have to mediate you have to be like hey you share she's going to use it for a little while and then we'll give it back Because in reverse the day before in reverse There was this other cute little baby Who was even younger than Maya Like 13 months old

And Maya didn't want to let the little girl use her shovel And the second the little girl The little girl had the shovel And Maya came over to try to take the shovel back And I did what any civilized parent does And I jump up and I go no no Maya we can share And there of course the mom's sweet And we go oh no we can share

You don't just let it go Like, what are we doing? No, you got to step in. Parents got to mediate. And honestly, you got to mediate for a while. And the mid-convo looking, me looking over at Natalie, who's sitting on the chair, the look I got from Natalie was like three sentences.

It was like, we looked at each other, and it was a full conversation. It was like, yo, I see this guy talking to you. You better handle this shit before I get up and things get off. Handle it. And I was like, I got it. I can handle this. You know, speaking of being bullied,

I got to cost it in our building gym. What? A cop verbally accosted and harassed. Why? What happened? I'm in there doing my little warm up, getting ready for a workout on. What was this how to be Friday? But at home?

At my home gym. In the building. Okay. And I don't have my headphones. So I'm just chilling doing my workout. My phone rings for a call I was waiting for. So I immediately answers a work call. And I start talking.

And there's three people in the entire gym. I've been in this situation. Me and then some other people all the way on the other side on treadmills. So I start having a combo, but I have these bands that I use to work on like my glutes and hams and stuff around my ankles. So I'm having the combo on like the counter

and like I'm leaned over the phone and I'm taking the bands off my legs so I can like get my stuff together and move about. A guy comes over, he's like, hey, you're not supposed to be on your phone in the gym. You know the rules. The rules are on the sign. And I'm like, yeah, okay, cool.

And so I continue to try to get the band over my sneakers. He's hovering over me. Oh, my God. Waiting for me to like proceed out the door. So I stop. I'm like, yo, bro, are you policing my movement and like how I have to quickly I respond to the rules? I was like, how long have you lived here?

Because I've been here since this building was built. And we don't act like this. Like I've people have been on calls. people's kids come running through it's a house get broken like yeah unless somebody don't want people to come in there

and post up every day on the phone yeah but like why are you hovering over me right now he's like well you're on your call and you haven't got off your call yet I was like I'm in the process what's wrong with I was like what's wrong with you bro like are you okay are you all right

and then his wife comes over and she's like what kind of professional call is this that you have I was like who the fuck who are you talking to He was like, don't speak to my wife like that. I was like, what is wrong with y'all? If you have a complaint, go complain.

But y'all came all the way across the gym and you're going to hover over me while I'm, what's going on right now? I feel attacked. She was like, you're one of those. I was like, apparently, because I don't know why you guys are on me like this. What is happening right now?

They tried to make you the Karen in the situation because you were offended by them Karening you? Or just, and by the way, they're in my space, like up on. On me. Right, right, right. And I'm like, yo, y'all got to give me some space. Like, I feel threatened right now.

This is crazy. Mind you, they're just some regular, dggler people. They're not even, it's not even. But I figured I'd turn it into a show. Right. Why don't? Then I'm like, look, look, y'all got to get from away from me. This is craziness.

So I'm going to finish my convo and proceed out the gym. Did you mute it at this point? Yeah, I had muted my phone for a second. So I unmute and I start talking. He's like, well, I'm just going to play music on my phone then. Oh. Are you serious? Unplugs this thing and just starts playing music

and hovering around me while I'm trying to finish a call. So I pack up my stuff and just go right out the door into the hallway. After I'm done, I go down to the front desk and I speak to our front desk guy. And I'm like, hey, bro, I just went through something in the gym. It was wild. I've been living here for seven years. I've never seen nothing like this before. And I explained him what just happened.

He was like, yeah, a lady came down here. I never seen her before. I was like, I guess they're new in the building. So I had to rush to pick Issa up from camp. I called Jazz. Yo, I just went through something crazy in the building. I tell her she's like, I'm going to talk to the building manager right now.

I was like, that's exactly why I called you because I needed a lady to go. Right, right, right, right, right. Deal with this. By the time she gets to the building manager, the Belgian manager is like, yeah, they came to complain. I watched the video and told them that they need to apologize to Ibrahim for how they treated him.

He was not in the wrong. Of course not. And then Jazz was like, who are they? Who are these people? She was like they've been here for a month. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Now, the flat, like, I don't know when the last. last time you guys have been in a situation where like, like you see like flashes of like what you could do to somebody's face. Yeah. As they're talking to you. Like I was going through that. But at the same time, it was so bizarre that I wasn't really mad.

It was like a movie. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Like I was like, what's happening right now? Like I started having flashes of like, is this a trap? Am I being set up?

Does somebody think that I'm going to respond? And what was that it? That's the whole story. I haven't seen the people. I don't know their names. If I see them again, all I know is I'm going to say to the guy or the wife, I'm going to be like, hey, the word is you're supposed to apologize to me. Oh, God.

That's what I got. I got back from our incident that you're supposed to tell me sorry. And you were mean to me. That's all I'm prepared to say. By the way, it's perfect thing to say. It's perfect thing to say. You received a phone call and then in earnest, we're getting it together so you can And it's all on video, by the way.

It's the whole. With audio, there's audio too. I'm probably, it's a gym. I mean, it's the building gym. Their camera has a house. Yeah. Because like. But they came, by the way, all the way across the gym into my space.

Now, like, explain that. Like, what? I'm trying to understand what your brain could be telling you that you would say, I've been here a month. And I'm going to go enforce the letter of the law that I see on the wall with this person. I don't know who this is. But you don't know who you are at all. Like what?

But especially when you're watching him take off his bands, obviously he's getting ready to like make some moves. Like you're just going to run up on him. Yo, but then by the way, and by the way, let's say you did. Let's say, let's say I was,

I was way out of line and had been on the phone for, I don't know, five minutes. And casually sitting back. And just chilling. And you came over and were like, hey, you're not supposed to be on the phone.

It's really loud. I'm trying, I got my, you know, whatever, I got my headphones on and I can hear you through my headphones. Whatever it is. You're going to hover over the person and police the scenario to enforce said policy? Bro, I think about that part. Not go to the front desk, not go to the building manager and say, hey, somebody's doing. Hold on. Well, there's a couple things.

Number one, it's insane. I don't know what you would have to do in my building for me to say something to you. I don't know what. If they lit up a joint in the gym. I would be like, yo Natalie, someone smoking on joining it. I can't imagine. Maybe if it was like a teenager and they were doing something unsafe with the equipment, they were throwing dumbbell.

I don't know what you'd have to do for me to come to you and go, excuse me, like my brain, I don't get it. I don't understand it. But don't ever forget, I accidentally had that guy fired from my building. Because he couldn't mind his business. And he had to come to me and say, Excuse me, your dog shouldn't be going here, remember? Oh, right.

Yo, my man, I know, he's old. I'm sorry. And he's like, yeah, but I know, boy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yo, my man, if you got, same thing. If it's an issue, bring it up to your bosses and tell them I did it. It's the Rocky Pete out here, my man. He ended up getting fired, bro.

It was the congratulations of all congratulations. He wanted to turn it up on me. I'm like, my man, I'm not trying to turn this up. Now, let's turn up. Okay, great. Guess what happened? He got fired. I still lived there. Because he wanted to scream at me over, why are you, what do you care? You own the building? Why do you care where the dog peed?

I don't understand. Two weeks ago, I walked outside. We have a little side entrance that gets you to like the parking garage and the street. It's the side door. It's where I most often take bare now because it's the path of least resistance. I get him out that little door. So you're outside now. You're on cement. It's not covered. You're outside. But it's between a building wall and a building wall. It's a corridor to get you outside. I make you five feet and bear stops and poops. And a woman walks up behind me and I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, miss. And she's like, he shouldn't be doing that here. And I went, again, my brain at first, probably the way you were at first. I go, oh, yeah, he's like 16 years old. We didn't make it.

And she's just like, yeah, but he shouldn't be doing that. I was like, I don't understand. Do you think that I didn't, ma'am, I didn't plan this. he just had to go. So I'm gonna just pick it up and she's like, he really, and just can't stop. I'm like, what is wrong with you? Like, you own this place.

It's a piece of poop. It's in the bag. What are we talking? What do you want me to do? Shut it back in there? Like, what do you want me to do? Let's ask the obvious question that I'm sure the chat has already discussed.

I have to assume that the people you're speaking about were Caucasian. No. No. What? No, but hold on. They were not African-American. No, they were not black. That would have been a twist that I wouldn't have believed. But they weren't white and they weren't black.

They weren't white and they weren't black. And I don't think it like I didn't want to make it to like a racial thing as much as this was just kind of like. Well, but it's caucasity. It sounded like caucasity. Well, yeah. I mean, look, our building has black families, Indian families, like white. It's very a mixed building. Okay.

And so, yeah. It was just honestly, I was, I was blown. Like, I was really blown. And afterwards was really, once again, it was so crazy. I never been through nothing like that before. Like, normally that would be like a police officer bothering me over something stupid or having an attitude or, you know what I mean? But never in my home scenario, have I ever at home been bothered, right?

No, and it sucks when it's at your home because you're like, I live here, bro. I felt the same way. It's like, well, no, and then I started having flashes of like, yo, what if these people like retaliate against me? Like, what if they like? Now beef is playing out. The show beef is playing out. I know.

By the way, season two, incredible. Good, me. Oh, season two is phenomenal. I finished it and they stuck. I know, I know. I said, I didn't finish season one. What's wrong with you? Season two is different, bro.

So can I just pick up a season two? Yeah, 100%. Season one started by, I forget why, but so it got on my nerve. The feeling is not the same. Tell me if you agree, Laura. Yes. This is Natalie's take, not mine. Season two feels like a even more intense and faster-paced white lotus as opposed to beef.

It feels more like white lotus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, everything's a sound of like weird and you're like, what's going on? It's very good. Anyways, but I feel you. Like, now you're like, I live with these people. They're in the place that you live. And you don't want to have ops in the place that you live.

And by the way, like, you know, we're not like a, we don't have a lot of events. We don't have a lot of parties like this weekend also. we had people over to cook out, and it was perfectly fine and chill, and there was other families outside, and kids were playing, and it was great. We sat outside,

grilled some food, and, like, just chill. But you don't want to have to worry that now you've got people sitting there watching your moves. Well, no, but I'm more like thinking,

like, I don't do a lot of stuff at my building. Yeah, and when we have, I'm like, when I've been over there, his neighbors are usually super cool. Everybody's great.

Like, I was like, hi, you know, just super nice, super nice. But it was so bizarre. Like,

it was so, so. How's the struggle? How bizarre. Yeah. How bizarre. That's crazy. You bring up, you bring up how bizarre is crazy.

How bizarre. That is bizarre that you brought that up. No, I feel you though. It's a very, so weird. That's the thing about living in public spaces in New York is like you're dealing with all kinds of people. I had the exact opposite experience in my gym yesterday. Oh, I forgot this piece. This is the piece that really blew me.

Wait, there's another piece. What? When, Earl, when we're having the interaction. And I'm like, yo, what's wrong with y'all? Like, you got to relax. He goes, what are you going to do about it? No, get out of it. I swear it said it twice.

That was when I was like, yo, this is a setup. They set me up, guys, this is it. He did not say what are you going to do? He said, what are you going to do twice? What are you going to do about it? As you know, I was like, oh, this is a setup. This can't be happening at my house. Not with this man.

How tall is this man? 5-7, 5-8. What is he jacked? No But that's why I was like it's a setup Right, it's a setup It's a setup You're setting me up right now

Ah got you Right Right that no that is what it feels like Because if you at that point About what am I gonna do what I'm gonna do You remember when they said that to Kane's dad Menace to society you know what he did But that's a threat

You're threatening me So when we went to the manager And when I went to the front desk I said that I was like I got threatened in the gym They threatened me He said, what are you going to do about it? That's crazy.

Crazy town. This is wild. Yo, and, oh, and he said he was like, you know, they have a policy about being on the phone. They talk about this in meetings. I was like, I go to all the meetings. And that was another time his wife was like, oh, you're one of those. I was like, no, I own, I'm an owner. I go to the meeting to make decisions about what I own where I own where I live.

I don't go to those. You clearly are one of those. I don't get it. No, just kidding. You should. You should. No, I go just because there's things, unresolved issues in the building.

No, it's different. You own a condo. The co-op meetings are mad boring. I don't think I can make it through a full co-op meeting. I go to mine too. But they're once in a while. Condo. They're like once a quarter.

Yeah, yeah. No, the condo ones, I feel like they're less annoying. They have a new policy in the building. We're going to me and jazz are already scheduled. We go to the next building. Where delivery people can't bring your food up to the door after six. This got passed at a meeting. I don't hate that.

I don't hate it either. I just feel like six is too early. Yeah, it should be like eight, seven, eight. Yeah, we got to get through dinner time. It should be get through dinner time. Right? And I get it because delivery people come up in the building. They're lost.

They're walking around. No, he don't want that. Or they're, you know, they come up and they'll just like put menus in front of people's doors. Sure. Or all that kind of crap. Yeah. You know what I mean? That makes sense.

I'm not mad at it. Just going to go to the next meeting. Be like, hey, can we bump that back a couple hours? All in favor? All in favor? Thanks for coming out. It's that easy? No, but.

Wow, I feel bad that you have to now deal with the awkwardness of. No, I don't feel awkward at all. I'm excited to actually be, you know, in a scenario where I'm going to be like, you were mean to me. And they said you have to apologize. Now, what would happen though if he turned up again, though? But he might turn up again. I want to see it. But do you?

I do. This is. Because I'll be like, ah. You didn't apologize. Yeah. Let's go to the manager. We need to have. We should go to, then is that what you'd say?

We should go together. We should go to the manager together because you're being mean to me again. This is wild. Like there's not a piece. So, intimidated. Was it not racist? We don't,

are we not trying to go to immediately that this was racist? It could be. But, like, based on what? Just because you wanted to be mean to a black guy. It was in a gym. Because I don't know,

you guys felt you feel some sort of power. Maybe they thought I was like a renter and they could just be mean to me. Maybe they're renters. Maybe they think because of their backer. that they could just they don't think I belong like it could be all of those things I didn't go there I didn't you know well I saw a guy in the gym yesterday because I didn't have a working fob so I was waiting for someone to come open the door for me which if those people had seen someone like that would have thought I was an interloper

and he comes and lets me in and he was wearing a Canello Golochkin sweatshirt and I've seen him wearing boxing merch before this guy older older white dude tall guy and I was about to walk away and I went you know what you a boxing writer and he said I am of course he is because I always see him in the boxing stuff and um I go what's your name and he's like thomas hauser Thomas Howser is one of the greatest boxing writers of all time really yeah dude five ollie books covered ali's entire career he's the man bro like he's and we started chatting like it was an immediate so can we talk to him before our interviews can we like prep next time we have like a boxing interview can we be like hey we're about talking

So he, bro. Yeah, we would need prep before we talked to him for the prep. Because he still knows. And of course, I had a current boxing conversation with him, which would be. It sucks. If you're in the world of boxing, it sucks that every conversation you have with someone who's like a casual is like, man, boxing sucks now. Like that's what their whole being is, is talking about what used to be. Granted, we have those hip hop conversations a lot with people our age.

Absolutely. For sure. Like hip hop sucks. now it used to be great yeah but I'm not with you guys but that's the thing we don't agree with that whereas the case of boxing there's no way to not somewhat agree with I can agree if you made the if you said mainstream hip-hop sucks most and even in Drake doesn't suck no Jay Cole doesn't stop Kendrick doesn't suck if you said I don't like most of the the new mainstream music that I maybe most you'd go with most I'd be I'd like

okay sure okay or I don't like I'm not into like the the the Like TikTok or, you know. TikTok hip-hop. Yeah, or, you know, just all that shit that sounds the same. Sure. Okay. But you're right. It's hard because there's lots of new stuff.

The biggest names in hip-hop are phenomenal. Still good. Yeah. So, but in boxing, it's very hard to not argue. Matter of fact. So let me ask you this. The biggest names in boxing, okay? The biggest names and the biggest fights in boxing still seem like quality boxing.

No. the biggest name in boxing is Jake Paul. Well, you mean box office big? Yes. Okay, maybe I'm using the wrong word. Respected names in boxing. There are still really good respected names, but like

Shakur Stevenson. But I don't think, I mean, Chicoor Stevenson is not an all-time great. Yeah, but Canello's on the way out. Canello's on the way out. Terrence Crawford quit. You know. What are you going with quit and I retire?

What, however you want to put it? I mean, he's done. He stopped. He won't be done. I mean, I think he'll fight again. Although, yeah, Crawford's a great, all-time great fighter, but didn't have an all-time... Berlanga. I think Berlanga is a good fighter, but he's, you know, he already has a couple losses. He's lost two at a lot of more fights.

Garcia is a really good fighter, but he's an eight-hole. Right, so boom, I guess you're kind of going towards my point. And it's same thing in hip-hop. But most people couldn't just do what you just did, by the way. Okay, that's fine. Just so you know. That's fine. You pull 50 people, they won't know any of those people.

Right. Because of marketing, though. So UFC and these other Dazins and these other things have spent so much money creating the narratives that they want for their things, right? Marketing. Same with hip hop. The greatest things in hip hop, right, that we know about that most people wouldn't be able to talk about aren't getting the marketing machine. Nobody's creating the narrative and creating the story. nobody's spending money on that.

In the fighting world, MMA, right, the Joe Rogan of it all, the Dana White of it all, that thing is getting marketing money and a story built. In boxing right now, because UFC is basically,

what's the term, move their cheese, if you will, taking the kind of the inertia of the whole thing and moved it somewhere else. No one's spending money to money. To market and tell these stories.

Specifically, that's HBO and Showtime. And they don't exist. They don't exist anymore. They don't have. They're done. And similarly in hip-hop, what are the media outlets that are telling the story and making, because they care about something so much? But he actually, when I was talking to Thomas Houser yesterday,

he traced it all back to when HBO first started making changes at the top of their sports division in 2001. See? And then by five years, I think they announced six, seven years ago, whatever, was five years ago, Louie, that they were officially out. Like, we're done. We're quitting boxing. Now, without HBO or Showtime, it just isn't quite the same. There's no storytelling.

I mean, they are going to have this Joshua Fury fight. Like, that fight is going to happen. And who's it going to? It'll be Netflix. And it'll be, see it, seven years. No, it's the most boxing thing of all time. Late. First of all, it's seven years too late.

Second of all, they're going to have to do it in America, which is crazy to me also. But they're going to have to do it in the U.S. Why? For time zone? Yes, for times. Apparently Netflix, apparently Netflix, like, kind of demands it for time zone purposes. Right, because most Netflix subscribers are in North America.

Correct. So they're like, we're doing it here. And apparently, according to what Mr. Hauser was saying to me yesterday, there was conversation about them trying to do it at Wembley, but to do it in U.S. prime time at Wembley would require these special ordinances and whatnot to get to have the event in the middle of the night. And then you're dealing with 80,000 Brits staying up until 4 a.m. to watch a fight

and get them out of Wembley Stadium and it was like this is not a manageable situation. So it is just very boxing that they're going to have the fight seven years too late in the wrong part of the world. That being said, we'll all want to go.

Like when Jerry Joshua happens, it'll be awesome. But by the way, most people won't take what Mr. Hauser's talking about with regard to the corporate storytelling part. Right? And the reason I'm focused on that is because right now today

when we're looking at who are the next big hip hop superstars, you're not going to have any unless someone finds value in telling these new stories. You're not going to have boxing the way you had it unless someone, an entity, finds value, financial value. Well, that's what Zufa. I'm sure that's what they believe they're going to be. Zufu's saying, we're going to put in the money,

we're going to put in the time, we're going to create the stories, we're going to make boxing a thing the way we made. Because it's all about the stories. Like even when you look at it, get like major league baseball right now. What are the stories? Well, the big story this weekend was bias in St. Louis.

That was an immediate story. Because they need a story. But that was, yeah, when was the last time of baseball? Otani, I guess. But that was an immediate story of this rookie debuted and hit three home runs. First time ever a rookie's hit three home runs in their debut. And he's from D.R. Right.

Is that where he's from Louis? I think so. Yeah, he's from D. But he has to be because if he's Puerto Rican, Louis would know. But Laura, the story is that. his father died when he was young and his father wanted, you know, had professional aspirations to play ball. Okay. Never made it, right?

And why do I know this? Because there was an outlet on Instagram that thought it would be valuable to share the entire story. Yes, yes, yes, yes, right? Which gets you once again. The story gets you into the person, the humanity of it. Of course. If you're not having outlets tell stories. And I say this to anything, hip hop, boxing, pick a thing.

A restaurant. Clothing you like. Mostly. You know, shoot, every time a Nike drops, they're trying to create a story. There's a story of why you should care, right? If you don't have outlets telling these stories. We keep down playing.

That's why journalists are important. But we keep down playing boxing, and obviously it was a great weekend for boxing. Clip seven. Let's see, clip seven. Yes, they've got a fight. Who are they booing? Who are they doing?

They're ready to peeking them. Who is this? Ray J and Orlando Brown. by Ray J. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Yeah. By the way. On the actual Clarissa Shields' call. Not a great look in my. Come up. I get it. I get it though. This should not be in an arena.

Yo. But Ray J's laughing. He can't even look at Ray J. laugh. It's crazy. Now. Oh, so does anything happen here? No. Clearly, Orlando Brown didn't train.

Really? What gives you that? This is a Zeus production. You heard his shoulder? He heard his neck. You know, he's his shoulder. That's boxing right now. But I think in all fairness, there's always kind of been, if you look at the history of boxing, there's always been these crazy exhibition fights.

For sure. So that's always been a thing. That's going far, though. But. Ray J. Or, like, that's not Muhammad Ali versus Antonio Inoki. That was Orlando Brown versus. But they used to have like crazy boxing matches. Yes, King Luke.

But not on a legitimate card. Not on a legitimate card. That's facts. But once again, and I want to point this out, the reason the first name, when you said, I said, who's the biggest name of boxing? You said Jake Paul. Not because he's the best, because he has the biggest box office. Correct.

Right? And that delineation is important. I think for somebody like you that cares about the craftsmanship of things to not. fall for the jucks all the time yeah no you're right that's that's fair you know what I'm saying because we all do it well we'll be like no that's the big business though we we work I we work for entities that care about the business I caught myself while you were having this conversation going when I was super into boxing in the early 2000s the names that like I love the Jose Luis Castillo Diego Corralis Eric

Morales Marco Antonio Barrera all these guys germane Taylor all Bernard Hopkins all these guys none of them were huge names there were just machines that were making me still be into boxing. Right. There could still be a Marco Antonio Barrera right now. That's right. Something else has taken your time. Or, and I don't have the HBO Showtime thing to follow of who are their fighters.

That's right. That's right. And this will get shoved in your face. And but then, you know. On your algorithm. Yeah. That's somebody paid to get into your feet. It's crazy, bro. We, we had it, we didn't, we haven't done news.

We haven't, it's nine o'clock. You want to get to the rundown? Got to do it. Lora got the run down. I mean, I got accosted in the gym. I got verbally assaulted. No, that's a headline. I got bullied.

That's crazy. That's a headline. I got bullied, accosted, threatened at my home gym. No, I had to be caught. Oh, my God. I just really quickly, congratulations to Jordan Woods and Carl Anthony Towns. They got married over the weekend. Saw that.

Beautiful lavish wedding. So congratulations to them. Doja Cat. This happened, I think it was on Friday, but she decided to take a shot at Taiga over his new project and this is what she calls him. Nobody asked me anything about Tyga but I just felt like saying this. Tiga is a penis for making an AI album.

I don't know why is this funny. You don't have a penis every day. Well and A, I believe probably just being in L.A., Doja Cat and Tiga have probably know each other and probably probably have a relationship as just comrades in the game. The reason she's saying that

is because, one, she is a songwriter. Oh, of course. It makes perfect. So for her, she's like, bro, come on. Also, she knows Tyga is a songwriter. Yeah. Why are you doing this, bro?

That's really what, that's why she's saying. Sure. Yeah. And I think that you look, I think songwriters and musicians and producers who, you know, don't use AI or don't use a lot of AI probably are feeling the same way. And I'll say what I said last week. I feel like Tiger probably got a bag because I know people. who work for these AI companies

that are looking for songwriters and people to admit or co-sign the use of AI. To market it. To market it and also normalize. You know what I'm saying? And also there's so many varying ways of using AI and it all just gets thrown in this blanket of it's AI. You know what I mean?

And it's like, well, no, it may have been used at different points. And also on Tiger's thing, we don't know what is AI and what's not. Right. I mean, but at least he admitted it though. He said, yes, I use this program, Suno to create the album. And he said Suno? Yeah.

Which I know pays people. Facts. To talk about using AI. Yes. So also, Pitchfork decided to give TIG's album a 0.0 out of 10. That's tough, by the way. That's a tough rating. Well, I mean, no matter how you cut it.

And Pitchfork, which is known to be more of a purest art form-leaning platform, would obviously do that. Not based on whether or not they actually heard it. anything in the music that they like. It's marketing for them too. Also, yeah. Of course. When was the last time everyone talked about a pitchfork review? Right.

And yeah, Chris Brown got some attention to. Yeah. But this one like, did you, is it really a zero? Like people aren't people, people, people, people, a lot of people's reviews are based on what they want the review to be. So let me ask you this. Or, and I'll ask the audience to. If you found out that Tiger's use of AI was simply the drums on every song.

How would you feel? No, who would feel that strongly about that? People don't even know how drums are made in the first play. Yeah, I don't think people would care. If you found out that it was just keyboards on a certain song. I think it's the vocals part that. It's the people think it's the writing and the performance of the song. That's what they're thinking.

That's what they think, but we don't know. No, but that's what they think, for sure. Also, we'd be remiss because it happened right before we got in the air to not mention Hayden Panetary. Yes. Who passed away. So sad, man. And they don't have cause of death yet. She was 36 years old.

Now, I read, and I don't know if it's valid, that there was some personal struggles. Oh, no, big, well-known, well-documented personal struggles. Okay. She, well, among other things, apparently she had a really traumatic event happen when she was like 18 years old. She was a child star.

She had a whole lot of things happen. She, after a couple things happened, after she had a baby with Vlad Klitschko, to go back to our boxing conversation, after having a baby with Vlad Klitchko, she had severe postpartum depression to the point that she gave the child to Vlad

and they stayed friends but Vlad took full custody. She continued to visit the baby until yesterday or whatever this was. But like she gave up because it continued. Her postpartum struggle

lasted for years and was incredibly intense. On top of that she was in a really abusive relationship post-Vlad. Yeah, King Louis was telling me that. Which I still don't understand. Like my brain has never been able to comprehend

how someone can have a baby with Vladimir Klitschko and be abusive to the one. I just, it never made sense to me. Why, because the father of the child would come and do something? I mean, I guess not. And we don't know what type of abuse, right? We don't know. We know physical because he got charges for it.

And I'm just, no, I know it's like a simpleton way of thinking. Vlad Klitschko, Laura's 6-8-275, arguably the hardest hitting heavyweight, potentially whoever lived, literally. He will break your face off of your body. So it's just like, I always found it so, like, obviously you don't know what people's lives are. So she just struck,

she had one thing after another, and then she went on Jay Shetty like three months ago, and she wrote a book, she went on Jay Shetty to promote it. She talked about, like, healing and her path forward and, like, that she had really wanted to, like, turn her story around. And it's just so, like, now she's gone

and no one knows what happens. It's crazy. You know, so often I hear stories of individuals who, you know, are gone too soon that right before we get the news, they were talking about how it was just a story recently, other than Hayden's story. Where somebody was saying how, you know, they were in a great place and they were moving forward. I always think of big puns. I just lost 100 pounds. I'm trying to live on the record where he then died. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. is odd but i it's it's you know they're trying maybe that's what to puns you know uh what he's saying i'm trying i'm really trying putting it out here i'm saying it but inside i'm not i'm not there there yet you know like to really be okay yeah to be on the because you know i'm sure just like any other struggles it's every day right like you don't just it's not like uh you're on the other side completely and it's not haunting you whatever that is right whether that that's addiction or whatever you're dealing with.

It wasn't Perez Hilton, was it? No. Because that was another crazy mental health story. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Which Perez is doing okay, yeah? I mean, or dealing, recovering. He lived, he lived.

We'll say that because I know I believe that the grandma tried to take custody of the children than the sister because the grandma's a little older, you know. But even that story is horrible, man, horrible. No, it's a lot of bad stories. But yeah, Hayden Penetary was super talented too, like really dope actor. I don't know if you guys remember this from the show,

but I was into Nashville the first couple seasons. Sharifah's obsessed with Nashville. National is a great soap opera, music, soap opera show. It came out the same time that whatchamacall came out. There was the hip-hop version and the country version. What was the big... Pow. Not power.

No, no, the big Fox Empire. Empire. Yes. And, no, this show was great. Nashville was a... She was really good on that. But that was one of many things. She did so many things.

Yeah. So, yeah, rest in peace, really. All right, you guys, let's wrap up the rundown. Do we have time for a guru? I don't know, man. Turn that up. Screens on glow when she pulled up. I do want to say, though, I appreciate this show.

Because I can't, over the weekend, you know, it's really, really tapping me the stories of black people being hanged. There's another story in North Carolina. Over the weekend, another black person was hanged. Matter of fact, there's been two in North Carolina this summer. What? And the headquarters of the KKK is in North Carolina, I'm told. And this one of them was in broad daylight. It was found in broad daylight.

What's the clip? Welcome to North Carolina. We're yesterday, August 15th, a black man is found hanging from a tree here in the middle of Raleigh, in the middle of the day. Yesterday was the Kareeb Masked Caribbean Festival in downtown Raleigh that brought out thousands of people to celebrate black love and joy and unity. And right outside of that, on McDowell Street, there was a black man hanging from a tree. It was originally reported by the North Carolina via Facebook.

When I first saw it, I thought there's no way. There's no way. Because if this were true, Mayor Cowell, Raleigh's mayor, would have had an immediate press release out. And that Raleigh PD would have responded immediately. via press release. There's no way that you have a black man hanging from a tree in 2026 in the middle of Raleigh, and you do not comment on it. Hours later, Raleigh PD comes out with official statement, basically saying at 235 yesterday, they did go to McDowell Street to find this individual. He was pronounced at the scene, and it is being ruled as a suicide, and it's now within the investigation of the medical examiner. Given that this is the second time this has happened in North Carolina this summer, this is in case that should be investigated to its full extent as a hate crime.

within a civil suit. In May of 2026, Giuliano Azita was found hanging from a tree in Charlotte, North Carolina, that was also rolled a suicide. Listen, twice, this summer in North Carolina, North Carolina, the state of North Carolina, that's headquarters to the KKK. Are we kidding? And what I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around is that we were almost 24 hours out from this initial report. I have not seen any official statements from our elected officials at the local state or federal level. I have not seen barely any news covering this about what's going on. And that is disgusting. So yeah. And by the way, we're in a, yeah, twice in the same summer.

Same state. In the same state. Plus you have the Mississippi hangings. And, you know, I went and looked, you know, a little pattern recognition, maybe that we need to do as a society. Now, the federal government does not identify the races of individuals that they find. hanging. They don't,

but there are independent, um, you know, organizations that do. I looked in the last year, there's only been one non-black person found hanging in Vicksburg, Mississippi, a homeless person.

So, then I went back and looked 10 years. There's one Latino man that was found hanging in Texas. So that means black people are being hanged in the United States still. And, you know, they've always used that as a way to intimidate and scare black folks. And I, you know, I try to stay away from the oppression Olympics where we go, oh, well, this group's dealing with that. And my group is dealing with this. If there was another group that was consistently being found hanging from trees in a nation that has,

as a history of hanging said group from trees. What do you guys think the coverage would be like? Not what this is, because I've seen zero coverage of this as a recurrent. And I don't mean just these two. I mean, in general. I don't ever see anything about it. I mean, the last one I saw of like a young woman was in, I think, Florida, but you only see it through independent journalists.

That's it. If it wasn't for social media, you wouldn't hear anything. And currently, if you recall the current federal administration, the government of the United States of America, I believe disbanded the office that deals with civil rights issues. So who you call it if you live in Mississippi? Right, right, right, right. Who's investigating this?

Well, that was a big thing that you talked about a lot leading up to the election, that if you live in these places and you need the federal government, you now do not have them. That's right. This is why voting matters. Right. Because I'm not, I don't vote the way I vote. vote on a federal level because I'm worried about what's happening in New York City and here in the

tri-state where I live. I vote on behalf of the majority of people, specifically black people, who live in places where they don't have protection. They're not going to get a mom done. Right. And so the reason I started by saying I appreciate this program was because it took my mind off of this for a second today. We was having other convos. And I think that's important too. But I wanted to close the program because I want you all to think about that if other groups when we start talking about listening to black folks and and paying attention to what black folks are telling you about their experience and the history of this country and how it deals with black people and black people are like yo we have a problem pay attention and you're not paying attention you're failing right now there are more than two black people. people that have been found hanging from trees in 2026 as we head into the midterms where we know that they are suppressing votes, scaring people away from the polls in certain area, changing gerrymandering laws, talking about declaring national emergencies so they don't

have elections, figuring out ways to get black people to not vote. If it wasn't important, y'all, if black people weren't important and our vote wasn't important, they wouldn't be doing all this. They do it because they want to scare us. So I'm going to leave you all with a woman I follow. Her name is Ray Shonda, just to give it a little another tone and perspective on clip number five. All right, you all, listen, I just touched down in Martha's Vineyard, and I want to hop

on here to remind you all yet again that black people do not hang themselves from trees. That's right. Yet another body has been found hanging this. time in Riley, North Carolina. And as I sat out here, I talked to her older sister. She's in her late 60s, and she said, Roshanda, it is time. And I cannot agree with her more. It is time. She said, what they have feared more than anything is a revolt from us. They have feared our vengeance, and now it is time. Absolutely. And as I told you all, we are taking this offline. So it won't be discussed on here. Not only will the revolution not be televised, it will no longer be

postpone and everybody needs to man their post okay if it is something that you want to do in your community you need to sign up for it and you need to start there okay don't bring any phones into this discussion right we're going to keep it real quiet do you understand that because it's time no longer are we going to live in fear it wrecks your nervous system can you imagine what our ancestors live through when they could barely say let me run to the store real quick and guarantee that they would make it back. That's where we're going now. So it has to end.

I need you all to start paying attention, okay? Black people do not hang themselves from trees. And the reason Martha's Vineyard is important, and she pointed that out, I believe, is because Martha's Vineyard is the first place that black people could buy homes in the United States of America. So most of the black people on Martha's Venue got there because they were support staff and things like that for wealthy white Americans. but that's kind of the importance of Martha's Vineyard.

A lot of people think Martha's Vineyard is like some elite, you know, super expensive place where black people go and you got to be rich to be there and all this. And it costs to get there. But it's a living, breathing like black museum when you get to Martha's Vine. The black community there, the black people have owned homes, the beaches and things like that, just the whole experience.

So a lot of black people go up there in the summertime. but it is very real what's going on and when you when black people see you know and hear stories of black people hanging from trees and being hanged and then there's no coverage and it's just written off there's no investigation within days they're calling it a suicide we know exactly what that is like you're not a person was hanging from a tree that you needed to get a fire truck to go get them down. How does that even, has that ever been a thing?

Suicide by hanging on a tree. Has that ever been a thing? I highly doubt it. They just automatically connected to like other versions of that. Do you understand what I'm saying? Even because people hang in our home. Yes, yes.

But at their home it makes sense. Yes. For as much as that can make sense. But like, that's just not a thing. You know, she said black people don't hang themselves from trees. I agree. I would say nobody hangs themselves from trees. My assumption is nobody does that

If your goal is to commit suicide You're doing it on a tree and a public I just it doesn't make sense It does not make sense So I hate bringing the show into that Space but we got to be in that space Because it's very real And you got to pay attention and these stories

Aren't being covered and thank you for tuning to ELR Let's get to it See y'all tomorrow man We'll get to the guru tomorrow Ebro-Laura Rosenberg at Gmail send us a guru or get on that um family Friday train too you want to share anything with us you want to be a part of the Friday program via voice note or video we appreciate y'all man

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