The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 165.) Why Bad Bunny Is Becoming An All-Time Legend (8/18/26)

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are all back together! They discuss the superstardom of Bad Bunny, Ray Daniels & Wayno, Olivia Dean did a 4 sold out show set at MSG, J...ason Arday and so much more! (8/18/26) Hear more of the show on Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just don't call in a podcast. Well, good morning. 844, ELR, ELR 3. If you just want to say good morning, if you just want to say hi, maybe it's your birthday. Or maybe we're talking about something that you want to, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:14 tell us to shut the F-up about. Or you want to co-sign and be like, I need to get Natalie a cozy earth robe for her birthday. You know, look, I mean, we can get into it right now. You want to get you off the top? Because that's my real life right now. Listen, the women's rib-knit pajamas.
Starting point is 00:00:30 A set. Go. It's a go. The robes they have, go. I might have have to get one for myself because let me tell you what I've been leaning on. I was at the beach, those beach towels. Beach towels. Yeah, I just got those. Fire. Come through. But yeah, Natalie wants to keep it simple for her birthday, but she's
Starting point is 00:00:48 I think I want one of these cozy earth robes. Because she liked the robe that she had at the hotel. Uh-huh. And she opted against stealing it, which I think was the right thing. That was the right, bro. Even though, even though, in my home, you might show up no no no when we go to any hotel you bring your own robes nope something's getting stolen oh god that's just that's just the way of the world and you imagine they they account for it it's all
Starting point is 00:01:09 inclusive right well it's that part but also you know the little minis of whatever if the lotion smells good or there's a little mini jazz guys for exercise but it's not the thing is it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not so uh the all-day teas for the guys you guys you guys I told you I got a pack of those been rocking those hats And back to the towel that you spoke on Laura Stoutes who get from Cozy Earth You know how like you get towels that don't really dry like that? Yeah, I hate that they're just smearing the water Yeah, especially the pool the pool beach towels Facts these not the case they're drying dried you up and then when you lay them out
Starting point is 00:01:47 You know I'm saying after you dried off and went to go get a you know a little piece of grilled chicken off the grill It's drying up real nice this is beautiful and back ready again so get to yourself over to cozy earth That's right, cozy earth.com and use our code ELR. They'll give you an exclusive 20% off when you use the code ELR. That's right, 20% off when you use the code ELR. And if you see a post-purch survey, make sure you mention that you heard about Cozy Earth on ELR. Yeah, ELR me, do your thing. We haven't activated the EL Army since what, hats?
Starting point is 00:02:18 How the hats going? Good. Yeah, it's just a continuous thing. I just left them up there. So you can always go cop a hat. I need to order a hat. I need to order a hat. I need to order a hat.
Starting point is 00:02:26 See what that fit is like. Yeah. We need to rock them on the show, right? I think so. I think so. We got to inspect. Respect to John Cena's hat, but it may get replaced. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:35 With an E-LR hat. What about the heels hat? Is that Sina? No, that's a gun. That's a gun. Yeah. What about the Dreamville? Jay Cole hat is tucked in the in the stash.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh, I didn't even notice that. See? Wait, when do we do that? Wait, who went rogue? I did. Ebro, come on, man. I don't have a lot of responsibility. Because I brought the J.I.D.
Starting point is 00:02:53 serial, but now we double Dreamville. You double Dreamville? That's double, you know what they're going to say about us out of here? Oh, that were glazing Dreamville? Part of the Dreamville glaze. I just thought it was so cool that JID got to manage to manifest his own cereal box with Frost and Flores. And had a record to go with it. Did you ever hit the record?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Fire. Crazy, bro. What an awesome manifestation. So now we used manifestation twice. I kind of like the Dreamville. I can't pull off. Why did you use manifestation twice in that scenario? I said he manifested it.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Is that for something he manifested? Yeah, I think he like just in. You heard the words that he manifested? These are the words he manifested. I can't pull off the truck or cap, but I like it. Why not? You always say things. Can't do this.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Why? Because you don't like it? Because... They usually don't fit well on my head. That's true. They usually don't. Who's making this decision? Are these fashion choices that you've made to yourself?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Have you taken a survey? How about this? How about the fact that at 47 years old, they may run out of snaps on the snapback for me? Wait, yeah, don't piece is... Bro. Riggedy Rock. You're the last one? No, let's try three.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Okay, okay, okay. Let's try three. Okay, you're good. It's fine. You're good. How is this, though? She looks like a hat on your head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It doesn't fit. It's not terrible. It's not terrible. You know what? Shouts to Dreamville. They manifested a great hat. What could I say? Manifest, the word of the day.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Listen, ladies and gents, we got run down with Laura Stiles. What are you looking at today? Let me see some good news for usher and Chris Brown fans. We got some good news. And also if you're a bad bunny fan, I have something special for you. Yo, Conejo Mala. Yeah, I really want to dig into
Starting point is 00:04:34 the McKenna West surrogacy story today because I had a few people hit me up like, man, I wish you would have covered this. Yeah, I thought after the show, I realized we never did it. Yeah, so we'll get into that later on. Rosenberg, are you across this Jason R. Day story? I am in the UK.
Starting point is 00:04:46 My dad is obsessed with it, so I've been dragged into being across it. It's been on my algorithm a lot. And I sent it over the weekend because I heard about it, I feel like I heard about it last week, but it feels like it picked up more at the top of this week. You want to get to this? I think we have some clips for it
Starting point is 00:05:04 if you want to start with the clip. I don't know what the clips are, she told me. Let's go to clip three. Jason Ardea, a former Cambridge University professor who recently resigned over a plagiarism scandal was found dead at the age of 41. Jason became the youngest black professor ever to be appointed at Cambridge University.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Then some plagiarism allegations came about, right? And bear in mind, the university that awarded him the PhDs, John Moore's University of Liverpool, actually cleared him of any wrongdoing. And it was this man, Nathan Confuss, who basically started this campaign or alleged that he'd plagiarized, right? Bear in mind, this is the same man that apparently said the following. He calls himself a race realist, and he argued that under true meritocracy,
Starting point is 00:05:42 black people would disappear from almost all high-profile positions outside of sport and entertainment. So he's the real deal. This man is the man that started the allegations. Anyway, so Cambridge had started investigating it. Fair play, do you think. Jason had also then just resigned from his position. What led from that was 249 articles in 22 days. That doesn't even include, like, news channels or social media or LBC on the hour every hour,
Starting point is 00:06:09 about a university professor, an alleged academic misconduct. Bear in mind, all these articles then started on him as a person, his personal life. His career, his charity work, his marathon running, his childhood. were contacting people that went school with him to really investigate whether he really was non-verbal at the age of 11. At some point it stopped being did Jason plagiarized and turned into can we prove that this black man's entire existence is fraudulent. Reality is we have to talk about racism here right because racism isn't just always someone shouting a slur at you. Sometimes it's about disproportionality. I hadn't watched it. To me that was perfect. The disproportionality. It actually
Starting point is 00:06:50 reminds me of um um pardon me i'm forgetting the names uh the black kid and the white kid uh the black kid stabbed the white kid in the in the tent in terms of like it's the disproportionality that's so crazy here right there there are some weird things in the story of of rd and like you know whether there might have been plagiarization or whatever and clearly it sounds like he was dealing with different things well in the school that he went to they gave him his PhD said that didn't happen but yeah they said yeah they cleared yeah they cleared in the that one. I just, I know there's other stuff too. It wasn't just one thing. But it, but the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:07:24 there's two. And he resigned. There's two levels of the racism, though. Number one, the whole thing started from a legitimate, like, crazed race maniac, racist going after him. That's how this started. That's how we got there. And then on the backside of it, it's the disproportionality of the coverage.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yo, there are, I just, I was, I was reading other things about other white Cambridge professors who have had worse accusations about plagiarism in their past. And it's like, oh, we're going to take our time. We're going to look at it. But in the case of this guy, it becomes national crisis, which as I was talking to my dad yesterday, I said to my dad, not to be Ebro here, but let's remember where this is taking place.
Starting point is 00:08:10 This is literally the home of racism. Yeah. Like, let's not forget about how Megan Markle gets talked about. That's right. Everything related to black people, particularly black Brits being in any part of elite society comes with this insane racism. And so to me, that's the biggest thing I take from the story is just how racist it is at all sides. And then separately from that, I feel terribly for this guy who obviously has issues that he's dealing with, period.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Like the man had two children and committed suicide of 41 years old. I understand it's a really bad story. Okay, mad people go through really bad stories. The fact that he ended up committing suicide shows there's some real mental health issues that were already there. But that doesn't change the fact that the disproportionality and how it's covered is disgusting and clearly based in racism. Like him saying we have to look at racism, I'm like, I think the only thing to look at here is the racism. Well, I think in the context of what this person was putting up or, you know, was laying out, The reason he says you have to look at racism is to your, I think he's saying what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Because people are trying to make it other things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mental health may be other things he may have dealt with as a child being nonverbal. I think he was considered autistic, like these other things that they're pointing to these other things. And he's like, but none of that has to do with why there were 200 and some odd stories about a person who was accused of plagiarism. This person stepped down voluntarily, but then was continued to be back. and bullied and and and basically hunted down by an internet right or media outlets or platforms or whatever that are obsessed with individuals who are accomplished that are black in a
Starting point is 00:10:01 world where it's very anti-dei and that's said yeah and like you said this individual here who is um you know clearly obsessed with the idea that blacks and black people around the world should not be excel in intellectual capacity Or in any, yeah, it's... Right, he basically is like anything intellectual, if you, you know, really scrutinize it, you get rid of all black people, the only thing they would be good for
Starting point is 00:10:28 is shucking and jiving, dancing, dunking balls, and running fast. That's what it sounds like he's about. And your point about the DEI thing, it is, I think that's where the article obsession went. Right. Because they're obsessed over there with the DEI thing. You know, one of the great things about our country
Starting point is 00:10:45 is that, you know, we distribute all of our, stuff. Right, right, right. And I think one of the things we're going to have to really look at that doesn't get the play that it's due is how much Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, J.D. Vance, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, keep going. Um, uh, you name it, have spread this obsession. No, they financed it. They're over there. They're over there. Yeah, we talked about this. Right wing sitting on panels having discussions. And it's working. And it's not just England. It's basically all over Europe, South America, Latin,
Starting point is 00:11:22 it's basically everywhere. We've exported it everywhere. Yeah. And they're obsessed now. Yeah, I definitely saw a deep dive on all the professors who are accused of worse things. Guys, it was like 10 times worse way of anything that this man did.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And it was like little to no coverage. Well, because racism. Yeah. And that's all the DEI conversation is. Yeah. It's just racism. It's just outright, out now. It's continually, and like we said,
Starting point is 00:11:48 we were talking about, the hangings in the U.S. yesterday, continually badgering black people and people of color to make them continue to question whether or not they belong in spaces. Because if you can make marginalized groups question whether or not they belong, you take their self-esteem. You take their desire to want to compete. You take their hope away from them. You make them dependent on you to show up as their white savior and save the day and save them and then begging place they're comfortable that's the only way they ever want to be mediocre right you have to conspire to figure out ways to keep power over individuals who are great because but it's kind of like you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:12:35 causing people to feel caged and unsafe for sure right and so when and when you do that which especially with someone and if someone has you know anything in them some sort of mental health issue that could make it more likely for them to be really deeply triggered by it. It's a dangerous, it's potentially a dangerous situation because they fear their world is ending and with good reason with 200 some articles. You have to be built a certain way to have 200 articles. People you knew were getting phone calls about you. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You're on the news every, you're a professor. I mean, he was well known. I think I saw a picture of him like with the torch at the Olympics. Like he's done well-known public things. But you know, he's not Brad Pitt. Okay. To be able to withstand that level of pressure, that's a different. And for the races out there or people don't understand their own racism or if you have, if there are any white supremacists tuned in, the more you make things like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:30 black people accomplishing things a headline, the more people continue to celebrate it, which just exacerbates your own white supremacy like triggers. You see what I'm saying? Like if Jason R. Day has his successes, right? and, you know, he's the first black person to accomplish what he accomplished. And everybody says, yay, and more black people will go on to accomplish that same thing, right? It becomes less and less about race. The more people begin to accomplish these things.
Starting point is 00:14:02 The more you make it, you're making it about race. Like, remember when people, and you've heard people say this, it's Obama's fault that we're so divided. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're all the time. How? He's just a black person that showed up and being black and spoke about things he understood about race in America Things he understood about black being black? He having a black family sure but most of the time he was just doing the job
Starting point is 00:14:27 It was just his existence and so that that and that's how blind and stupid people are Is it even when we talk about the transgender topic right or these you know They're doing it's being funded though because it's it's being funded though because it's it's being fun because it triggers individuals into being emotional and division makes all of those names, the Elon Musk's and all of the people who are lined up funding this around the world. It all makes them money. It really just really continues to make the money and it forces everyone to continue to look to them for financial opportunities, for them to control the way money moves.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And then divides all the lesser thens financially. That's right. It divides everybody else. So black people, white people, everyone's, yo, bro. All the marginalized folks and all of the, the people who are middle of lower class are going to fight fight about all the and they don't care about any of you all they're doing
Starting point is 00:15:19 is trying to set this whole thing well they're trying to keep you divided so they can stay in power and keep all the money bro have you I know you said yesterday you were looking at Twitter after the show but you don't look often yeah so when Twitter will show me their fight videos as they like as they are want to do never see them on Instagram but Twitter it's like you would
Starting point is 00:15:37 think all I want to do is see people beat each other up every several of them it will be a black and white fight. Yeah, like a race fight. Some sort of race fight or a white person is being beat up by black people or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And then you go to the comments and you're like, oh, this is an intentional, this is just like racial-ish being put out there. Every comment, monkey this, monkey that. Yeah, it's disgusting. Barbarian, savage.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm like, where is this comment? from like what it is so clearly intent it is so clearly a post musk twitter thing yeah that has now a decision was made yeah about these videos being out i saw a video the other day i'm like this video doesn't even make sense i don't even know how video of this exists what is this what is the context what is happening but you can better believe the comments are going to be all anti-black racism that is all it is and then if you ever click on any of those profiles just to see who they are it's always some weird AI generated patriot take or a Christian, you know, symbol or like a Bible quote or just a straight-a-bought, a straight-a-bought.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Well, I would think a lot are bots. I think of at least getting them to feed it early so they can get it, make sure it gets in your hour. And then you see some regular just, good all racist. Because like, why do I go from a Jane Daniels clip to Pat McAfee's album to the next thing is whatever? fourth one is some race fight. Like why? Why? Because you saw a black person. Then you looked at a white person. That's it. They went, oh, you know black people and white people.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You know what you should check out? There's disgusting horrible. Black and white people fight. So yeah, the Ardei story is horrible. I feel awful about it. And it's not, it's not shocking. We have seen this before. I mean, here, there, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's just, once again,
Starting point is 00:17:36 it's another occurrence where the internet and like you so eloquently pointed out what we're exporting here from North America, right, is making its way around to, you know, the other individuals who are interested in participating in this type of thing. White, you know, more just racism, bigotry, hate, and white supremacy. And by the way, until, you know, until we all start having more, I think, informed conversations about we're being fed and really, really, really take heat in it, I do. I do. Don't know if the average person, you know, on social media every day is thinking about this in this way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's critically. This critically thinking when they open up their whatever app. What they're being fed or what they're seeing when they swipe through it. And I also, how about this? We also don't know if we're seeing things that they're not seen. That wasn't to say that. Right. Because of the way we use our social media, which is more.
Starting point is 00:18:39 of us seeking out stories and seeking out what artists are doing or gossip or politics or whatever. Maybe more people, and maybe that's something people could call about. Maybe your algorithm is mostly still you and your friends. Are you saying that my friends from home? I don't know. I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No, are you saying that my friends from Maryland? Yes. Did not watch videos yesterday about Ray Daniels and Wayno. No. You don't think it made it to their. Now look, Wayno's popping. So is Jay Daniels. Jay Daniels?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels. Oh, Ray Daniels. Yeah, not Jade Daniels. Although I got to tell you, I didn't really know. Perfect, you said that because I didn't know who Ray Daniels was. Really? No.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I mean, he's moving around Algos. His podcast is popping. Him and him and he had something to say about Jay's album and him and Charlemagne. No, no, the machine is moving that thing. I'm just saying prior to that. Everyone knew who that was? I didn't. I've never heard of this guy.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, I mean, I've seen him a bunch. In what context? Well, he started doing podcasts, but he, I think he's a songwriter before that. Like, you know, according to Wayno's video yesterday, he's a manager of a songwriter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:46 There you go. But, but, do you see what I'm saying, though? Yes, you're saying you know him somewhat. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:52 just from the Algo mostly, though. But that's, but that's fascinating. We are all in this space. Yes. And this is being fed to us every day. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And I literally had to say to myself, so, are you slip it? Like, should you, has this guy been a part of our whole world forever? Yeah, How many times if you brought a podcast or up then I'm like, who is that?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah, but this one's so in our world. I didn't know Melvin. No, what's his name? Melvin. Melvin. No, the black guy y'all put me on to that runs around with the in cells and the Andrew Tates. Oh, I never remember his name. Yeah, but that's his name from our world.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He's from Fresh and Fit. Yeah, what is it? It's not Melvin, but I like that. That's a too black a name. Melvin is not Melvin? No. What's his name? My, Miles.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Miles. My, Myron. Myron. Yes. See, whiter. Told you. Told you. He didn't have a nice black name like Melvin.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Oh, God. Well, speaking of the internet and racism, I want to play clip number 15 from our friend. Here's why Kevin. Oh, I love Kevin. These platforms don't want us talking about the way the black and brown people are dying in America. I've gotten messages from followers who are being told by Instagram that if they share my post detailing that at least seven black Americans have been found hanging from trees so far this year across the country, that Instagram is telling them that no one will be able to see that post because it's being censored.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I also just showed an update about the Trey Reed's case, a 21-year-old college student who was found hanging from a tree on his college campus last September. Instagram and threads immediately let me know that people will not be seeing that post either. This has also happened when I've shared stories about the way that immigrant communities are being targeted by ice agents. And when people have been shot and killed by ice agents, over the weekend, I shared the story of an independent journalist who was shot by an ice agent and has been detained. while still sustaining those same injuries for almost 300 days. That story was suppressed. My monthly reach on Instagram at the top of this year was 350 million monthly viewers on my profile. That number has dwindled down to 28 million monthly viewers.
Starting point is 00:21:56 That is a large number. And I know that I still amass, you know, a big following. I still have a large viewership. But I lost 300 million viewers a month on this platform discussing. the ways that black and brown people are being targeted by this administration, by the police. Obviously, these are stories that these platforms do not want to reward. I've said this before, but if there's someone on these platforms that you like, know, and trust, and you want to support their work or you rely on their work, find other ways to
Starting point is 00:22:24 support them. You can follow me on Substack for free. It's Here's WhyCevon.substack.com. I also host a weekly news recap show with the Ebro-LOR-Rosenberg show. It's called ELRN. news with Kevin Rake-Rohas that airs every Friday on YouTube. I just want to let you guys know what's going on. And in the meantime, if you only rely on these platforms,
Starting point is 00:22:44 then just make sure to go to my page once a day and see what stories you missed for as long as these platforms will let me stay on here. It's so true, though. I don't know if you guys notice the amount of, like, views you get on any of your stories, right? So every now and then I check, I have 229,000 followers on Instagram. Okay. Anytime I post anything political, guys, it's like 500 views.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Right. No, I believe that. 500. And then if you post like Kenza or something. Or yes. It'll be in the thousands. Yes. Well, yeah, my, you know, look, first I want to shout to Kevin.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Thanks for, you know, wanting to be on the ELR platform and do the ELR News Weekly with Laura Stouse. But now, Kevin, I have to alert you. You have now stepped in with a number of. of individuals, mainly myself, who have been not only shadow banned, but being watched on Instagram and other social media for a odd, probably a decade. I've been having these conversations that are more popular now for a long time on social media. And I've also, you guys know how long I've been sitting at 800,000 followers?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yes, you haven't grown. None of us have grown. Hey, at least you, at least you grew 800,000 followers. They cut me off. They caught me all prior to that. Yeah, I might grow, die, die. Done. Cannot.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I've been sitting at the same number right now. At least six. Six years. It just hovers for permanently. No growth is possible. Same. So, and I think a lot of that is the fact that we cover topics that are considered unpopular by the establishment, right?
Starting point is 00:24:18 We have been political for a long time. And even right now, while things are very much heightened, right, in the political landscape with the current president and headed into the midterms, it's not going to slow down. So Kevin, you decided to align yourself with some people who get throttled all the time. Yeah, you were already getting throttled. So Kevin.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Congratulations. You played with yourself. We love you, Kevin. But it's true. It's beyond that, too. I mean, I know people whose content is not related to anything of this nature at all, and they still don't get their stuff shown. Well, it also, too, because it's layers to it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It also true because I think somebody, you know, and obviously these platforms, we were even talking about YouTube the other day and subscribers on YouTube and how our stuff moves around YouTube. Look, these are businesses, right? Instagram is a business. YouTube is a business. X is a business.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And so if you are monetizing content on these platforms and they know that's what you're doing, I'm sure they have some sophisticated algorithm to monitor that. If you're not now paying these platforms to move your stuff around, why would they allow your stuff to continue to be seen while they know you're making money.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, you know what, the old man's right. Because everything I end up getting fed, so much of it, I'm like, I don't follow these people and I don't want to. Why am I still getting fed this? And then like, you see it suggested. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Suggested is for a reason. It's full paid to have it suggested. So I wonder, I wonder if Kevin has ever tried to spend money. I wonder if that would affect it at all. Well, because he's gotten really big, really popular and so much so that, you know, he thought hanging out with us was a good idea.
Starting point is 00:25:59 deal for his brand so shout to him um and thank you for the love but also it comes with something right once you get to a certain level look even like remember how we used to complain about hot 97 social media right they don't pay they're a brand like it's a brand it's a radio brand you're not how about this how about this i have the perfect comp right now at ESPN new york god bless them they don't pay for anything the fan audacy pays And their stuff moves. Bro, no matter who I don't follow. I don't like Craig Carton.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I don't want him in my world. Have you seen this Craig Carton video? Have you seen this one? Have you seen this one? Bro, they won't show me my own station stuff. And they will keep feeding you the stuff that's being paid for you. King Lou, our social media internet wizard, what would you like to say? You're acting as if this isn't true what we're saying.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Your facial expression says something else. Well, it's not that it's not true. I just think it's a little bit of both, right? Because you're being shown Craig Carton because I understand it's not your station, but you're probably getting fed Craig Carton just because you watch sports. And the stuff that's getting suggested to you is because you watch something of something or something. And you don't think that that's financed. You don't think there's other sports things that Rosenberg could be fed.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Right. And I've said not interested multiple times. I just think both things can be true. No, no, for sure. That's what I'm saying. No, no, I agree with you. But here's my question. do you think it would get suggested so regularly if it wasn't being paid for overall
Starting point is 00:27:33 Odyssey wasn't spending money to be like we want our stuff to be seen oh I'm sure there's some somebody I don't I would imagine that's all I know is this these are publicly traded companies of thinking that this is some sort of diplomatic approach to sharing content you're a fucking dummy if you think that like you're so dumb this is how they make money Literally how they make money is through people spending to either advertise directly, like brands are advertising, advertising pop up on Facebook, wherever it is, or individuals who are running businesses on Instagram and monetizing subscribers. Bro, I guarantee you, if you have asked for people to subscribe to you on Instagram
Starting point is 00:28:22 and you're making money through Instagram, meaning they are taking a transaction on your behalf and that same company is not now also putting money back into their ecosystem they're gonna eventually make sure your shit ain't seen bro like why would it make it make sense any other way yeah like these places as we've often talked about these places are not here for you they're not just our thing that we it's not like we thank you for chair that's what they marketed you like we show you they spent a few years they spent a few years they spent a few years making you feel like Instagram's yours what share your life your channel will grow isn't this great and then it's like no this is just a business now now it was always just a business but they all
Starting point is 00:29:11 all businesses spend time ingratiating themselves to you that is what great businesses do can y'all be quiet though because i got to watch this cubs fight this is this is big well chitter what can everybody watch twitter twitter just you know twitter because all i care about is fights twitter just showed me this brawl at a Cubs game. Oh, God. Yesterday. Fans, by the way. Oh, with players?
Starting point is 00:29:35 No, no, no. Just people, just lunatics. Just beating each of that. As this comment says, though, you got to have absolutely nothing going for you in the world to get this worked up over a baseball game on a Monday night in August. What are you all doing, bro?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Honestly, human being, can we just be real? My dad talked about this, too, after the thing yesterday. What thing yesterday? After we talked about Jason Ardei. Okay. He said he just read a book about, he's reading a book about the Congo, I believe. Okay. the human thing.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It's not going great. It's not. This isn't good. It's not going to go good. It's never gone good. Name the country. At some point, they've killed millions of gazillion of people.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Your favorite nations. We talk about how much we love Japan. Japan's history is, whoa. China, worst. India, nightmare. Congo, awful. U.S. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It goes on. It's not. If God were to run this back, I would focus on the animal thing. Because the human thing, we just can't have anything. Well, that's, well, we are animals. But we're the worst ones. Like they, they, in animals cases, they kill. They kill for food.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I've never, I've watched a lot of animal shows. It is very rare that there's just a psychotic animal that wants to kill as many. I'm not saying it never happens. But not nearly as often as we care to do this. Like, we just want to harm people. We just want to harm people. We want people to be down bad and kill and torture people and we act, you know, we act as if America or Israel are the only place is doing it. No, they just do it on the really, they got the tech with it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They got the branding for it. Yeah, they got a lot going on. But this is what we do. Let's be honest, this is what we do. We kill, we harm, we are terrible. It's not good. It's not good. You want to wrap it up?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah, we might as well go home. Because what is that? What else is there to say? It's only 834. You know what? Let's get to the run. There we go. that up screens on glow when she pulled up
Starting point is 00:31:31 Headlines heavy but we still cut up Light still flashing we don't slow up All right well Usher and Chris Brown are adding more tour dates Wow man Yeah I mean they have added more shows To the itinerary They are coming to MetLife Stadium
Starting point is 00:31:48 October 15th They're in Baltimore October 17th Cincinnati October 24th They're going to Indianapolis Atlanta Los Angeles and Miami December 6th So here's a deal. It's in demand. I was at the show, Chris Brown Usher here at MetLife.
Starting point is 00:32:02 It's a phenomenal, phenomenal top tier production. Okay. Like, and the reason I use the word production is specific. Because you go to, there's a lot of shows. Because we know Usher and Chris have talent. So we're like, really? You may have heard of them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You may have seen them in action. So we know they can do all the cool, talented things that, you know, stage, singing, dancing, folks can do at the highest level. But this show goes to another level of a full-on production. Like, Usher's, it's a full-on, I mean, the set design, the outfit changes. But more Usher than Chris? Chris also. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah, Chris also. I just was starting there, but Chris also, like, you know, you know, laying in the bed, the bedroom scenes, the this scene, the dance, and the, it's just a lot. It's a lot. It's a production. Oh. Flying, flying, sliding. gliding.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, I saw it. Slipping, sliding. Slipping and sliding. Slipping. Flipping. Flipping, slipping, slipping, sliding, gliding. Yeah. Riding.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Riding. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I see why it's getting more days. Props, because I'll be the first to a minute. I think on this program, I questioned whether this needed to stadium. Yeah. I think I was like, stadium feels like a bit much.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, so go ahead. You can get the button. Congratulations. You played yourself. Stadium can't hold it. They need to come back. They had to come back, bro. And by the way, they had already done two MetLife.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Which they added a third MetLife? A third MetLife in October. Yep. By the way, that's during football season to me and you, sir. Yeah. And anyone else who watches. Normally, I don't think they do concerts at the stadium in football season. Well, you got to catch the right time.
Starting point is 00:33:50 If you can catch the right timing. Speaking of shows, I'm on my way to Grunow Mars. You're on your way to Gruno. Yeah. know, Issa turned 12, she asked for that for her birthday. Oh, my God. She wanted to go to Grunow. I don't, Laura, I want to ask you, because Ebro can't be honest about this.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Has it been like, I've asked this before. I'm asking, am I just washed or has the Grunow thing been very quiet this year? It's been more quiet this year. Yes. I still love him. I agree with you. Okay. It feels like niche.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It feels like I'm going to Bruno Mars. Like, oh, is that a secret tour? But it's selling out and it's great. And look, I love the romantic, the new album. The pop stations are playing it. Like it's, I got to listen to the album. Listen, if we were still able to play music, guess what we'd be doing every day?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Playing Bruno? Oh, I'd be, oh, play that Bruno Mars. Oh, it'd be Bruno Mars Appreciation Day because the music's phenomenal. But it's being played on pop, it's not being played it. Right, but I'd be, you know, the album's dope. But this is what's lost when I'm not there. You don't get Bruno Marge appreciation. That is, I love, but actually, that is part of probably why I fell in love with 24-carat magic.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Because I was playing it. What was the album again? Yeah, 24-Kar-Mad. That was the album. That album, that tour was. Awesome. I love, so other things, and we'll talk about it more on Family Friday, and I'll share some videos and things. If y'all lock in on a Patreon or if you're a patroni.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah, or watch on Fridays when we get to it. You guys are up on Olivia Dean. Yes. Up a Jace. Let me tell you something. The way my friends are asking me for tickets, I have zero tickets. Four sold-out shows at MSG, and you're up a Jace, by the way. On a young lady, how much do you think Rosenberg's house would love Olivia Dean?
Starting point is 00:35:24 I think you would really enjoy. Well, no, when I see how she's described, she sounds fantastic. No, but you haven't listened. No. See? She won Best New Artist, I know that. You haven't listened. She won Best New Artist this year, even though her first album came out four years ago.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I don't understand how the Grammys make their decision. But she looked great. It looks seem great. But I know nothing. Missing out, bro. Where is this making it? Well, you don't count. Where is a normal person getting this music?
Starting point is 00:35:49 On the radio. It's on the radio? It's on the radio? Yeah, yeah. Pop? Yeah. She had like a number one single. On pop?
Starting point is 00:35:56 on pop. Never listen to. It's definitely pop, R&B. Like it's, it's soulful pop, it's like pop soul intermixed with like,
Starting point is 00:36:05 you know, some Basanova and vibes. Vibe vibes. But poppy vibe vibes. Yes. I'm telling you, songwriter vibes too.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Great songs. The great songs. No, listen. Catchy tunes. She seems, she seems terrific. I do, yo, I took Salasi to see Olivia D.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I can't believe you not on this. Wait, So is this Salasi's official first concert? Yeah. You wear her little headphones. It was so cute. She had the little headphones on. A little headphones.
Starting point is 00:36:32 She got a T-shirt. The whole family bought merch. You guys are that into it. She's taking over the household. Well, the whole family merch? I got into it and then asked Issa and jazz if they had heard of her.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Okay. Like around the same time. And they were like, no. This is how long ago? Six months. Okay. Maybe more. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But. And I just thought it was good. Like I just thought she was. young great songs and I saw it blowing up and I thought everybody could like it and so I shared it jazz liked it Eisa really got into it um and fell in love with a bunch of songs and so that was like hey let's do the whole family to the concert thing how did you salasi do so Lassie was I mean anytime she see somebody playing live music she's locked okay okay she's she's really there could be like a rando you know street entertainer she wants to stop and she's going to
Starting point is 00:37:26 look around and see her very about clapping like why you guys not clapping yeah a little bop but she definitely is going to be like what's going on guys this is a performance we celebrate this celebrate this what's wrong with you guys it's so funny when i saw when i saw olivia d i saw you went i didn't know much but i knew she was pop just because of the name olivia dean really it just feels like a pop star name like if she was i feel like if she was straight r and b and not pop her name would be slightly different is that her full real name I don't know. Or the name Olivia just strikes me as mainstream
Starting point is 00:38:00 because of Olivia Rodriguez or something. Maybe. Maybe. But the videos I saw from, it looked awesome. Yeah, no, she's really great. It's really, really great. In other news, Conejo Malo, Bad Bunny is coming home after taking Debbie Tiramas photos around the world.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He announced two final shows in Puerto Rico August 22nd, 23rd. Wow. And websites already crash. You already know the deal. I can't. I listen. It was one of the great concerts I've ever been to.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And at the same time, I can't believe we're still talking about it. It feels like a different lifetime. I mean, our entire lives. How long when this is out? I mean, there's been so many things. We went, well, we went a year ago, year plus. Was it a year ago? A year plus.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yes, yes, it was. Well, you know, we had to finish his world tour. Wait, that was last summer. Last summer. Last summer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brough. Well, hang on, hang on.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Maybe early August, last summer, something like that. Yes. That's when we went. Fantastic show. Oh, my God. It was so much fun. Why are you saying, hold on, hold on. I'm just, my brain is processing.
Starting point is 00:38:59 That's been a year? Yeah, A, how long it's been. This came out January 5th, the album, came out January 5th, 2025. Yeah. January 5th, so a year and a half ago. That's when the album dropped. Yeah, yeah. We went to the tour last summer, so that's six, seven months.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Correct. After the album dropped. Correct. a year after the album dropped, a year and change, he did the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. But the timeline makes sense when you start breaking it down.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Then he did the whole world tour. No, but see, I'm not, I'm not, the timeline isn't what's meant. It's the fact to your point, we're going to be two years into the, the album. Like, this is real. That's what massive. Legendary stuff. We're living, we're watching history. No, that's what massive people's runs used to be like.
Starting point is 00:39:51 couple of years is just that and that's how you end up in that space where great artists drop every four or five years right because they run with an album for two years and then they take a year recording an album you're going to take time off then they record and then you're like oh wow that last album was five years ago I mean honestly even the biontay stuff for as much as they're supposed to be like they're rolling out back to back they're not really rolling out back to back because each one ends up taking a long time right Renaissance was a year and change. Cowboy Carter was a year and change, right?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. Yeah, so the time between Renaissance and Cowboy Carter was, I think, a year and a half, something like that. And now we're... You did an amazing podcast, so you know, you're on the front lines. On the front lines. And now we're two plus years from... Oh, God, I feel like we just went.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. Yep. Yeah, because she did the Christmas football game. She did the Christmas football game Not this past Christmas Because Rocky was with us I remember when we watched It was the year before
Starting point is 00:40:58 We were at a house party on Christmas And went to a room by ourselves Me Natalie and Rocky And just sat there and set up a little iPhone and watched the perform So that's and that was a few months After the album came out So yeah
Starting point is 00:41:11 These things take a long time Well and it's also I love to point it out Because these are the cream of the crop Man Well that's what it is to be But this is what it takes. So when you're arguing with artists about like goats and all of this other stuff
Starting point is 00:41:26 and you're arguing with hip-hop about legends and rock stars and all these other words, we just like literally throw around. Like there's a real legend echelon. Like, and we get to, like Bad Bunny is someone that we all got to be front row. Watch the from beginning to end? From beginning, well, and it's not over. Oh, I thought this was retirement. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yes, King Luke. Well, I was going to say, and he did this without any U.S. dates, and he made people go back to Puerto Rico. Yes. If you want to seem, you have to go to the home country. That's right. To watch him, unless he went to the other, you live in another country. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Nice. It's crazy. Yep. And I remember the first time we were ever watching him in the studio, the first time Laura ever brought him up, I was like, everyone was showing it to me because he had the Rick Flair video. And I was like, yo, this guy's name is. bonkers. This is not serious. You're not a serious person. And the video, the way he looked,
Starting point is 00:42:25 his early look to me is repug. He looked weird. Like I was just like this guy. He definitely had a glow up. Okay. Oh my. Like we can't forget about the glow up. But he was like 22, you know, no, no, it makes perfect sense. But there are mad people who could have made it to that far. And that would have kind of been in. Well, no. Most people, that's all you're getting. They paid for a video for with Rick Flair. Pretty cool. That's it. Yeah. You know, that's most people who get in the game. And by the way that's for many people tremendous success but i think which is also why i'm often seen as you know the old man and and and a haters because i'm like yeah but i i'm looking at this level i'm looking at what bad bunny is doing now that's a rock star that is goate status
Starting point is 00:43:11 that is that but that's a good point because people give you a really hard time obviously about the uzi vert thing you know uzi's a big star big star but if you're throwing around the word rock star meaning you're talking about like Bon Jovi Arrowsmith like I mean Bad Bunny by the way I surpassed Bon jovi but that's what I'm saying it maybe I mean you're talking about Bruce Springsteen like you're doing the entire world Michael Jackson Madonna like the highest level that's this that's bad bunny no he's done he is the highest he has gotten to the highest to do that in a non-English format is bro it's it's beyond belief my friend went to a I guess like spot of
Starting point is 00:43:49 I had like a billion special show in Japan. Oh, yeah. And he's Dominican and he shot to my boy, Mel. He was like, I was there watching everyone sing along. He's like, in Japan. To every word. He's like, I sat there and was like, wow. Not to mention, as I've mentioned many times, he's a great wrestler.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Can't wait for him to come back. I don't know when he'll come back again. I mean, he has a song called Bukerti. Yo, do you realize he performed Bucatty, the night that I won. 24-7 championship? Really? Bad Bunny performed Bucerti that night, and I was cracking on Booker because
Starting point is 00:44:26 Booker did the performance with him, and all he did was come out there and stand with him like this. And Bad Bunny did a whole performance, the Booker just standing there. What else was he going to do? I don't know, but I was just cracking up. I'm like, they paid you to come in to do this. And he's like, yes, I'm Bukerti.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm Bukerti. I'm Buckepti. All right, that's the rundown. Yeah, man. Yeah. The run down, turned out. I'm booking a seat. When she pulled up,
Starting point is 00:44:52 headlines heavy, but we still come up. Do you guys want to talk about this McKenna West story? Yeah, yeah, we need to. Now, which one is this? So McKenna West is a nurse from Alaska. Lives in Alaska and she's a surrogate. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So there's a big issue happening right now because the biological parents, Nashin Gilcar and Omar Ahmed, they're from Los Angeles. Now, for anyone who doesn't understand surrogacy, this couple for whatever reason couldn't you know the woman couldn't carry the child so usually it's the woman's egg and her partner's sperm and they make the embryo and yes carries the pregnancy so the baby is not hers it's kind she is like a house to grow this egg okay so i like the i like the greenhouse parallel that okay so you know with this comes a lot of contracts and agreements it's a whole legal process right so in this case um
Starting point is 00:45:49 While McKenna West was pregnant, okay, they found a severe fetal medical diagnosis in the fetus. At 20 weeks, the ultrasound revealed that the fetus had HLHS, which is a hypoplastic left heart syndrome. It's a severe life-threatening defect requiring immediately and highly complex surgeries upon birth. So already this was going to be a very, very, very hard case for the disease. this child. A very high risk. Super high risk. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So this woman decided to breach her surrogacy contract because the couple changed their mind and wanted to terminate the pregnancy because they didn't, they felt they didn't want this child to have this life, right? As soon as they were born. And there's nothing in the contract that protects the family. I don't know. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:46:42 No, it is. They have the right to terminate the pregnancy. Got it. So during a lot of back and forth, the surrogate said, I do not want. want to terminate this pregnancy. And then, you know, while all of this was happening, I also read that the family was going back and forth with her. And all of a sudden, her brother was like, well, I'll adopt the baby.
Starting point is 00:47:00 But the thing is, the baby is not. It's theirs. It's theirs. You know what I mean? So then the family decided after, you know, they found a hospital in Los Angeles that could help the family with the baby if the baby ended up being born, right? Because it's a very serious health condition. She just went ghost.
Starting point is 00:47:17 stopped all communication with the family. Then, you know, which is a breach of contract because I'm telling you, this is like the contracts are very, very specific when it comes to this. She cut off communication with the biological parents. She fled to Texas to avoid the abortion and sought parental rights. Now, a conservative anti-abortion group
Starting point is 00:47:39 called Live Action paid for her flights for her and her other children, all her travel expenses to relocate her from Alaska to Texas. Well, why? Because Texas has some of the most harshest, you know, anti-abortion laws, right? So while live action finance her initial flight and all her public relations pushed, they're literally throwing everything at her.
Starting point is 00:48:01 A high-powered conservative Christian legal organization called the Alliance Defending Freedom stepped in to handle her representation in Texas courts. Now, additionally, there's a whole, you know, give and go. They've raised thousands of dollars to support. her. The baby was born on August 12th in Dallas and the judge, the judges have given the family the biological parents custody. But now all these Christian conservative groups are using her as like we are going to fight so you can get parental rights for this children. This child.
Starting point is 00:48:37 This child, excuse me. Yes. So now I look at it as this. I was like, yo, they are going to use this guys to come after surrogacy. But is that what they're saying? Is that like the, is that what it seems like the tone? Meaning come after surrogacy and try to outlaw it. I think so. Okay. Because, you know, a lot of people feel like this is not natural.
Starting point is 00:48:57 You know what I mean? That this shouldn't be allowed. So there's a lot of, you know, religious groups that are completely against surrogacy. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Although I'm sure there are some that don't see it that way because they have to do it. Yes. So this is one of those.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Well, they'll find their own loopholes and they have money to do so. Right. Right. But they'll try to outlaw it maybe for others to Laura's point. I think this also falls in line with, you know, the kind of, you know, who the mother is kind of debate. Right. And who has control over the womb and who can say when, you know, a pregnancy is viable or not. Because the other part is the baby was born, yes?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yes. And the baby is doing fine, yes? I mean, I don't know if the baby is doing fine. We don't know. We don't know. The baby is diagnosed with, you know. Right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 But, you know, we've talked, you know, ad nauseum at this point about these individuals who are pro-life until the baby is born. And then they're not providing health care. They're not funding education. They're not making sure parents have jobs to support the kids that they have. Yeah. They're not making sure prices are down so families can have affordable. By the way, you just triggered me. About which part?
Starting point is 00:50:12 The, the, it's, I already thought about earlier today when we're talking about Jason day I was thinking about how how good the right is with taking the term DEI and making it racist and I mean covering racism with the word yeah yeah and then you brought up the original trigger word for me of how the right always plays the left and left always loses pro-life yeah it is the craziest phrase the fact that the people who are against abortion they should be the anti no they're pro like they're the pro yeah and not only they pro they're pro-life. So what are you?
Starting point is 00:50:47 But they're only pro-life of a fetus that's unborn. Of course, it's complete bullshit. It's a lie. It's a complete and utter lie. But it's the point. It doesn't matter if the mom dies. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:50:57 That's fine. They're pro-life. It doesn't matter if the mom was raped. It doesn't matter if the mom dies. It doesn't even matter if the baby dies. It doesn't even matter if the baby dies after the baby's born. They're pro-life.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You're pro-death. Don't you see it? That's what they do. They've been playing in the face. I do not understand it because deep in my heart, I, truly believe that people with progressive mindsets are smarter than people with
Starting point is 00:51:19 conservative mindset. That doesn't mean they're good at marketing. But it doesn't mean they're good at marketing. And that pro-life one is the original. How are y'all pro-life? Well, because you're just against rights. Well, no, because remember marketing, marketing, and I'm sure the marketers out there will be laughing at what I'm about to say or angry. Marketing is a hustle. Right, right. And they're hustlers. They know what they're doing. It's identifying. things about humans that they're not necessarily conscious of
Starting point is 00:51:50 narrowing in on those colors, words and textures and driving it home to a human so that you provoke an emotion. It's a hustle. And so while, like to your point, while the left actually, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:08 most of the time is trying to figure out policy solutions, the right is trying to figure out marketing hustle. so that they can do what they're doing right now, which is get a hold of your tax dollars and get it sent out the back door to their buddies. Because that's what's happening. Your government, our government right now,
Starting point is 00:52:29 has been sequestered. It's been taken over by a bunch of hustlers and mobsters and criminals and pedophiles. And they are literally funneling our tax dollars The back door to their family and friends. And people are reporting on it, covering it, talking about it on everywhere. And there's no one to do a damn thing. Because the marketing was that good.
Starting point is 00:53:00 They've got that many. They create such numbers, or at least good enough numbers to be able to pull the stuff off. And it's the same thing here. Well, I saw a video the other day of a guy who was like, I don't know, he's, some sort of right wing influencer and he was having some sort of town hall and he was pleading with the Republican Party like we're Republicans
Starting point is 00:53:22 how are we letting these criminals and pedophiles run us off the cliff we're Republicans and I was listening and watching and I'm going you've signed up to a group that you're so emotionally tied to it doesn't even matter what they do to you
Starting point is 00:53:41 they say the same thing about Democrats where people have just, I'm a Democrat and this is what, and I think at a certain point we got to start having discussions, not about Democrat and Republican, but just like what's good for, and we talked, I think we mentioned this yesterday. What's just good for working people with jobs and kids and what's going to be the best for kids getting an education and making sure that we have an actual employable workforce in this country that can actually work the jobs and where the future of the jobs are? We're not even doing. We're not even doing. We're not even And that like those things are you know how many teachers I'm seeing on the internet right now talking about kids can't read
Starting point is 00:54:18 Oh my God kids can't read guys. We have a problem they cannot they cannot and when we talk and we're talking about kids not my kid They're just talking about kids in general and you'll say well not my kid and the next one will go well not my kid So where are these kids they're talking about? Because they're out there is it your kid? Are you sure and are you sure? When was the last time you asked your child to read something to you? Last week or when Issa writes her phenomenal birthday cards. Issa will write, listen, Issa will write you a tear jerking.
Starting point is 00:54:57 We read it. We played it. Oh, man. This is all the time. Yeah. I've spoken to public school teachers who are just like, it is horrible the amount of children who just cannot read. They just rely on their phone for everything. And now with chat GPT or Claude, they just ask everything and think those.
Starting point is 00:55:14 are all the answers. You know, they ask it, and they don't even have to read. They can ask it out loud and just hear it back. Yeah. They didn't even use to let us use calculators in class until you got to like, what was that class where they finally laid statistics or something? Yeah, where you get the TI.82 where they give you the. I was like, ooh, we get a calculator.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Graffing calculator, no less. Tough. That Texas Instruments joint. That's going to fire, bro. What? Let's get to the gurus. For the gurus. Rosenberg.
Starting point is 00:55:43 All right, you know you are a beautiful queen. Ebro, don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com. Where the gurus unite to shine the light. Burn at this stage, Ebro. Then read out.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Zen is zen. Hi, Rosenberg. Who's out there? Who's writing to us? Who needs us? The original gurus. Gmail.com, the original gurus at gmail.com, your destination for clarity. Hold on. Cut away. I have to rub my eye, Bascom. You don't want people saying. You don't think people... It doesn't look. It doesn't
Starting point is 00:56:23 look good. And I just got a big itch right in my eye. I think everybody has to rub their eyes some boy. I know, but like, there was a clip once on my afternoon show where like my producer didn't think about what it looked like and it's just a shot of me like rubbing my eyes. I'm talking like, that's really nasty. At least you weren't in your nose. Well, that would be now you're going from like it's plausible. What about a good ear dig on camera? That's different level. Y'all might catch me kidding.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Hit one of these. Um, all right. Let's see. Hmm. Some serious stuff in here. Dealing with the loss of a parent. Hmm. Hi, gurus.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I lost my father back in March this year due to a horrible disease. Liver cirrhosis. In many ways, I started grieving him before he even passed away when we were told that he didn't have much time left. My father and I didn't just have a typical father-daughter relationship. We were best friends. He confided in me and I confided in him. He was my beacon of light and I went to him for everything. Unfortunately, he is buried overseas,
Starting point is 00:57:24 so I only get to be close with him whenever I travel. I visit the grave whenever I get the chance, but being so far away makes the loss feel even harder sometimes. I know it's only been a few months, but I'm really struggling to move forward with my life. I feel like the grief is taking a toll on me, and I find myself worrying about the day I eventually lose my mother too.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Ebro, this question is especially for you. What coping mechanisms do you use to overcome the loss of a parent? And for anyone else who's experienced this kind of loss, Laura, what helped you get through those first few months? I know there probably isn't a way to truly move on from losing someone you love this deeply. Maybe it's more about learning how to carry the loss while still finding a way to live.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Anything you can share will be useful to me, thanks in advance there. Carry the loss while you still find a way to live. I don't think, and I haven't thought for a long time in my life after losing, you know, elders, my grandmother, my mom, my dad, you know, and other family members even recently. I've not thought about like moving on. Yeah. There's not like I'm moving on. Or I'm not going to think about this person. friends that have been killed um cut down too soon whatever the scenarios are i don't there's not a move
Starting point is 00:58:47 on there is a feel keep feeling cry when you need to cry you know call check on their other check on your other friends that y'all had mutual friends or family members see how they're doing talk with them. It's just a process. It's just, uh, that's it. I think, I think honestly, and, you know, people may disagree. I think that's one of we talked about on what you say, Rosembourg, the human thing isn't working. Yeah. I think that's one of the great gifts of being a human is that we actually have the ability to remember. Now, what we do with the memory, what we learn, how we, you know, pay, you know, give these lessons to future generations. generations hopefully teach them, prepare them with better tools.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I think that's where we often fail, which is why we continue to repeat some of the same atrocities, right, over and over again is because we aren't doing the work of moving forward with intention that is positive and uplifting and finding better solutions. I don't think we're doing that. And that's a different discussion for another time about why I think that is. but ultimately I think she's doing it. Even reaching out to the gurus,
Starting point is 01:00:07 I think is a part of the healing of just being trying to talk to other people who might be going through things, learn new things. For me, it's exercise, work, family, or family work exercise or whatever it is. Those are like my three things to just deal with every day, right?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Because you're going to feel grief could hit you at any moment. My mom, my dad, last week Solasi pointing at the picture of me and my dad or you know and having to you know talk to her about my parents not being here and you're always going to get hit with it. Yeah and it does I'm going to tell you for me it doesn't get easier. You just learn how to live with it little by little but I do the same thing. I talk to my, yo I have I have times like where my girlfriends just reach out and be like
Starting point is 01:00:56 I'm having a hard day today. I am missing her and it's okay. Hey, I cry all the time. You know, I cry all the time. And then when my dad passed, I was, I thought I was doing okay, dealing with those feelings, but then my child was born. And now it's like she asked me certain things. And she asked me about what was grandpa like.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And, you know, so it doesn't, to me, it doesn't get easier. You just learn how to live with it. And the best thing you could do is just talk it through. And if you need time to just cry by yourself, you just do it. Like, there's plenty of times that I've sat on my balcony and just bawled my eyes out. And you're going to miss them, you know, because you love them so much. But I still deal with it with shells. Like cry all the time, you know, but you just have the, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Look, I'm getting emotional now. Like, just to show you, like, I'm not over it, you know? I'm not over it. There is no over it, guys. I think the best, I think the best one, of all the different ones I've ever heard of people describing grief, I think the weight in the pocket is the best one. Yeah. Because it's a weight that you get, like, just like if you were in the gym training.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah. You know, man, this 25 pounds. This is this 25 pounds over my head. This is tough. Tomorrow, I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again, do it again, do it again. And then two years later you go, you know, it's not easy, but I can get it up. And it's still 25 pounds.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And it's still 25 pounds. So it's like the grief is going to always be there. You will get used to lifting it. Yeah. So you're able to do other things. And then sometimes you have your moments where you just laugh. Because of all the amazing, funny times. And I try to lean into those, you know, like all the good moments, all the happy memories.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And those make me feel a lot better too. So it's going to take time for you to get there. But whenever you can sneak one of those in, because it helps. And the emailer didn't say she had kids. I think there's that too, you know, especially like when you start hitting them 50s.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Your own mortality starts to tap on you. That's the other thing that everybody's got coming where your mortality, you're the reality that like, yo I got time but I don't have as much time as I used to have and and based on what I've seen I don't know how much time I have yeah because we've all sat here and all of a sudden we're talking about someone else we're like what they were just here talking with us about the other people that's right now they're gone that's right so you got all of that working and the best thing
Starting point is 01:03:19 that you can do is honestly lean in and accept you know the reality that is big as big as big as Big and powerful as we think we are is literally how small we are in the grand scheme. And your time here is limited and enjoy your people and people will come in your life, hopefully teach you lessons. Family members, same thing, and people will exit.
Starting point is 01:03:47 And hopefully you can pass those lessons on before it's your time. And that's just the game. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's also, it's beautiful. It's also beautiful if you accept for what it is. Yeah, sending you a lot of love because we understand.
Starting point is 01:04:03 There you go. Do you want to hit some super chats? So say the gurus. So say the guru. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. King Lou. I was going to say, before the super chats,
Starting point is 01:04:10 the person that wrote the letter is actually in the chat. Aw. And she wanted to thank you guys for the advice. She says it does help. You guys are awesome. And I love you from the bottom of my heart. Aw. Well, Danny from the stop says he gave us $5.
Starting point is 01:04:23 And said this show is depressing. L. Sorry, Danny. Come on, man. We're talking about real life, Danny. Danny also said the Bruno album came and went, didn't survive the summer. He's finished.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Okay. All right. Grim. See you at MetLife. Sussex Squad gave five bucks and said, great time to remind y'all that architected project 2025 studied Black American Studies. Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:52 They are trying to pick us off. Emperor Zaddy Supreme. That's a good one. Said, I met Ebro at NYSC before COVID. Paranthases, Issa Cookies guy. He's a big dude. Dude at the gym wanted a check and a beating. No, no.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Two, are you ever going to cover these hangings? No, we did. Do you not listen to our show? Yesterday we got it. Sometimes people miss a show. You know, they maybe miss a day. You miss a lot. We did a lot there yesterday for sure.
Starting point is 01:05:28 No, Danny was right. That was a depressing end of the show. I know. Yesterday's wasn't happy either. We were talking about hangings. No. Jeez. Sorry, gang.
Starting point is 01:05:35 It's a lot of bad stuff going on. I know. We can't just ignore. But, you look, we appreciate y'all coming along for the ride, man. And hopefully this 8 to 9 a.m. every day is serving you guys well. Give you a little son to talk about what's going on. A little joy, little pain. And if you need a little more, you know, you could become a Patreoni.
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