The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 171.) Remembering Dolly Parton (8/26/26)

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are discussing the GOAT Dolly Parton who passed away yesterday - and so much more! (8/26/26) Hear more of today's show on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ELRShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just don't call in a podcast. The Ibro Laura Rosenberg show. Oh, you actually live? And bemo. No, I like it. No, I like it. If y'all not. They don't even feel right playing the regular music today.

That's how crazy people are lost for you. I almost feel like you got to play. You didn't hit that doo-and-doo. We really can't. It's Dolly. What's that mean? You don't think the Internet understands? You think on this day, her estate and their publishing?

is not going to be collecting. You don't think they're just going to let it let people play the joint? On this day, I'm going to tell you when they're collecting on this day. Facts. I mean, listen, by the way, except knowing the way things have been going, we'll hear a story. Dolly knew she was dying, so she allowed for her stuff to be used. Right, right, right, right. Go ahead, internet.

Go ahead. I ask my, I know I'm the king of hyperbole when people pass away and big moments happen. I'm the big moment king. We know that. Okay, that's why you're on wrestling. But so my wife gave me a little bit of a like, all right. But I said to her, I can't think of a passing quite like this in terms of the combination of how famous the person is, but that we've seen. But where the outpouring is so unified, like across every demographic.

Yeah. I don't know that I remember the one. Michael Jackson, of course. Michael Jackson always has the hanging thing there. Yeah, there's some people. There's always a big butt with Michael. Even in 2009 when he died, there was a big. You think so?

Oh, yeah, bro. Yeah, there's some people. I mean, I just remember people were in the streets going. Well, that's what I'm saying it's different. I'm not saying it's bigger. That had people in the streets throwing parties and weeping and crazy people, but like, and the crazies were the highest level of crazy, right? And even those of us who are not crazy but love him were like, but there was the conversation with it.

Mm-hmm. Particularly imagine if Michael had died not in 2009, but in 26. It would have been all of those things still mixed with big think pieces. Well, if you're going to mourn today, then you must, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't see one thing come out yesterday, except let me tell you something else wonderful that you didn't know. Right. It's hard for me to recall who that would be.

She didn't have any controversies, right? Yeah, I just think there's a generation that is not as connected to her. You know what I mean? Like, if you think of, like, youth right now, they know her name, but they're not. Like they don't, I think there's a whole generation that doesn't even understand that like when she made the movie nine to five and talking about women's rights and workers rights and being a country artist from a, you know, you know, and as everybody, I think is documented now, the country world is a conservative, you know, rooted in the South. Yeah. Kind of Christian nationalist driven space. So here you have a woman speaking out against the page.

Patriarchy and workers rights and you know inclusion in the 80s you know what I mean and made a movie about it and saw and the movie was ahead and and you know all of that you know I don't think people are can necessarily connected to that I hear I agree I mean I agree that would be the only and that would be the same that would be the fame that would be the fame part right that would be the only thing where I would say I don't think people were with Mike the story I think everybody for better or for worse was included in the totality of the story. That's the only thing. What are we even talking about where we're slicing and dicing the passing of somebody that we all love? Yeah, I'm just saying I'd never seen like,

wow, this outpouring like is just wild. You know, like she deserves it. She did, she. But that's such a rare feat, bro. You know, I want to hit the neighbor of mine had the New York Times like in the hallway today. Sometimes it hits different. When a big life moment happens

and you're scrolling all day and you're seeing all kinds of stuff. But the next morning, I walk and see the paper cover. It can still sometimes, I guess for old heads like us, that still has some sort of nostalgic feel. The cover, this is the picture they put on the cover of the time. It's like an old school, maybe late 70s picture. Yeah.

But the tagline, it says, Rhinestone studded superstar who lit up millions of hearts. Like, everything about her was about how she affected people's hearts. You know what I mean? Just a good person, bro. She was just a good person. And like good, the best person, which is seems to be what is now her lasting memory. But like, you know, huge star, massive hits, incredible businesswoman, theme park.

Obviously we said philanthropist. Sex symbol. Like also thought of as one of like in her prime, one of the hottest people ever. Like also we were watching the, I don't, did the Barbara Walters interview hit your timeline yesterday? No, no. Yo, the bar, yo, let me tell you someone who. whose legacy has not done great in the dig-up clips era. It's Barbara Walters because every time someone passes,

the clips start coming out. The Britney one was awful. The Britney, how's this one? It's not great. I mean, it's just, she's just, she's like the breakfast club. Like, every interview is like, so.

You know, like, and so she's, you know, she's coming at Dolly about everything. And Dolly's answers about how she dresses. Are they real? Blah, this is like seven, looks mid-70s. her just class and comfort and not angry. It's like a master class in dealing with someone coming at you. And I'm not saying Barbara Walters was like trying to harm her.

She probably was asking the questions a lot of America had. Well, it's a tabloid. Remember, that was the, you know, we're still living in now. But that was, you know, beginning of the tabloid era. I don't know if it was the beginning. But, you know, because in Europe, they've been doing a tabloid in London. and they've been doing a tabloid thing, hard for a long time. Well, no, from around that time, though,

because I think that's when Rupert took over. When Rupert bought the paper and England's when it started. But remember, people love Barbara Walters. Now, I may not age well. People love the breakfast club. People love these things. People love Wendy Williams. People love all this stuff.

So once again, you guys get sick of me, the indictment is on us. No, for sure. I agree with you. I agree with you. They're just delivering what they know people like and the way they like it. Yeah.

You know, my time. McDonald's serving, billion, serve. Inundated with clips of her talking about LGBTQ rights and people and black lives matter. The clip where she says, you think our little white asses are the only ones that matter? Of course, they matter. Oh, yeah. That was a great moment. That one.

And then, of course, a lot of testimonies and people who were affected by her imagination library. You know, she launched that in like 95. And, you know, besides sending books to like millions of people, she also had a program where she had, books in Spanish specifically for Spanish-speaking children that you only need to have. I had a bunch of media from the internet but we could just talk about it now that we've talked it

through I was going to show a bunch of stuff I didn't know what you guys had planned. We had it in the rundown but now we're all the way in the dollar. The only one I don't see, there's a lot of stuff here that I see for us to play. Is included in that the 3-6 Mafia or no? I sent a lot. So do you see the 3-6 Mafia on?

No. No, I didn't. When 3-6-1 for hustle and flow at the Oscars, Dolly was up for her best song. I don't remember what. Griff, can you find out what that was? I don't remember what she was up for,

but she was up. So first of all, I saw the video, someone showed the video of them winning and her level of joy in the little box when they win. Like not faking it, but like legit happy. And then she wrote, and then she wrote them a letter

and said how proud she was for what they did and bringing back the office. to Tennessee to 36 Mafia. She wrote them after the Oscar. Traveling through. Traveling through. For Transamerica.

For transamerica. Right, right. Exactly. That sounds right. That sounds on point for a dollar. What's trans America? Is it a, what's trans America again? Or is the word trans unrelated?

It might be. I thought it was. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Which clips do you have ready in there? Rassan. Not the most recent ones, right? Yes.

Oh, you have all of those. Let's just start with a message from Dolly's family, which is clip 30. Hey, everyone. This is her nephew. My name is Brian Seaver, son of Cassie Parton, and I'm representing the Parton and Owen's family today announcing the passing of my Aunt Dolly Rebecca Parton Dean, sister, sis, aunt granny to one generation, and Gigi to the next.

G. This video announcement is something Dolly asked of me years ago, before I fully absorbed it as a future reality. As her head of security for more than two decades, a role my father Larry held before me, I have imagined the heaviness of this moment, but haven't truly felt it until now. It is an honor,

an honor that is mixed with absolute pride and great sadness. But sadness lies with us, not with Dolly. Dolly has lived in the light, and is in the arms of Jesus, surely met by Carl, her parents, and countless others who have watched her and longed for her to meet them in the heavens. I first went on the road with Dolly as a kid, getting a taste of the road life in the early 1980s.

Dolly opened doors not just for me, but for her entire family to reach the potential we didn't even know was possible. Dolly also opened doors for generations of singers, songwriters, musicians, and dreamers from every walk of life, and across every continent. By her example, we believe that anything was possible. She never saw a door she couldn't open, and the doors she opened made and changed history. My family and I have shared a lifetime of beautiful memories with Dolly. But so of you. She has always been on your television, your record player, your CD, and on your phone playlist, becoming an extended part of your family whether you liked it or not.

Our family and the team she has entrusted with her legacy will work diligently to ensure her spirit will live with us forever. Dolly was a farmer, just like her daddy. He farmed the soil. She farmed songs and happiness. Dolly called me and said She wants to rest in a beautiful bed of plush cotton Because after a life wearing heavy rhinestones

She finally deserves to be comfortable And have some rest Rest in peace, Aunt Dolly Aunt Granny Gigi May God bless Dolly Parton And may God bless you all She will always love you And transamerica was about what I thought it was

It was It was about a person about to go under transition And she did the title track from that movie That's a dope, super dope. Wow. Dolly dolly now here. And if you want to go farther into the, you know, if you want some like recent Dolly stuff too,

I was lucky enough to work with her team at Apple Music that put together what would Dolly do? And she did a whole radio show for us, singing songs, talking, like all types of stuff. Like everything you guys hear about her is super, it's not like a made-up thing at all. And I think that's pretty evident, right? Like, she, and there's a whole other country story I'm going to get into today to just remind people that they're on the wrong side of history.

Like when you look back at like Dolly Parking and how Dolly was always trying to include everyone and be as like loving and nice as just as a human being. Right. I think that's the piece that people in this current climate, not everyone, but I think too often it appears on social media. But we're picking sides that aren't just like about treating humans nicely, right, when they're trying to find their way through this life. And whatever that means for their reality, right? Like we're judging people and picking on people. And that's just who wasn't who Dolly Barton was.

And I think that's why, to your point earlier, Rosenberg, you see such a universal beloved outpouring for this person. but she also specifically didn't take political sides she didn't get up and say what hey i need you to go vote this way she she decided to lead with the things that she supported that's right so i think she knew and obviously we know it's not because she wasn't brave she didn't i don't think she believed that she would reach the most people and be able to have the most impact by drawing those lines so she would just do the things spend the money yeah you can you know know what she approved of and what she thought was the right thing to do.

Now, it is interesting, you know, Trump announced that, you know, put out an actually nice message after she passed and said she was a hero, announced flags would be at half-mask. She did turn down the Presidential Medal of Freedom twice from Trump, but never came out and made a specific statement. She just wasn't able to do it either time. Well, and I think that's to your point. Like, she just didn't want to be a part of that. Let me not get into this thing where you guys are like trying to be divisive. Because ultimately that's the end thing when you start. And I can just show you with everything I do.

Let me just do my way I do it. Right. And you'll see what it is. Beyonce, who obviously most recently had Dolly on her album, which you did a podcast, Cowboy Carter about. Yeah, and she covered Jolene, of course. Of course. So, which was a big part of the rollout for the album. And then she has Dolly's voice.

And an interlude. Yeah. Used throughout the album. And here's Beyonce. from her website. It's clip 42. I haven't seen this yet. You were the barometer, the North Star, bold and brilliant, talented and tenacious.

You taught so many lessons on how to be uniquely one's self. I am grateful for your art, your heart, your generosity, your humor, your entrepreneurship. I'm honored that I was privileged to work with you. I will treasure that forever. Thank you for your profound impact on the world. You are an angel who made this world happier. Who made this world a happier place because of that joyful art. You are truly one of one.

Rest peaceful. I worry about you when you're reading. I can hear your struggle. Well, yeah, because it's like blurry to me for some reason all of a sudden. I used to be able to see it fun. That's why I don't volunteer because I'm like, tell me what it says. You mess. One line you changed, I was like,

Beyonce's out of more poetic than that. Yo, he's just trying to get through. I was just trying to get through it. I was just trying to get to. Dolly B. Like, why is that blurry? I get you. Dolly my baby.

You know, by the way, that's how old I'm getting doing this show. When we started, I can see that just want. All of a sudden, now I can't. But your glasses don't have a prescription, right? These have a little in them. Oh, they have a little. Oh, because you have. I had LACA.

So I just got these to like make things easier to see. So you had Lacey, but it was a while ago. Yeah, you might need a while ago. Oh, you need a re-up. It's time for a... But, like, I could see that... I can see 844, E-L-R-E-L-R-3 on that board. Just fine.

Right. But you got the light here, too. Yeah, maybe that too. All right. Let's pick more. Anyway, that was beautiful. No, shout to Beyonce. Beautiful.

Yeah, that was fantastic. I was waiting for the Beyonce thing, so I missed that. So, and Laura, I know you wanted to cover Dolly and the rundown. Do you want to start the rundown? Do you have some specific things you wanted to get to? Honestly, we're doing... I mean, we can. Let's do it now.

Let's do it now. But honestly, let's lean on Dolly because we have a lot of great videos I want to touch on. Dollow was a big fan of the rundown. She always said it. Intro for the outtruck. I guarantee you.

She knew about the rundown. Dolly would have been a fan. So yesterday we all, you know, got the sad news that Adali passed away. In Nashville, early, it happened early Friday morning. They are saying that it was, she was admitted to the hospital early Friday morning.

excuse me and she had been suffering with like kidney and autoimmune issues and this is something that she was keeping super quiet she was super private um she passed away yesterday in the hospital she was 80 years old and i think one of the one of my favorite things that has been moving around the internet is just you know people's you know um the way she affected people's lives specifically with her imagination library so she launched the imagination library in 1995 she has gifted more than 332 million free books to children from birth to age five across five countries, inspiring a love for reading to millions of kids around the world. This is, talk about incredible, guys, incredible.

And I did see some families do their personal, you know, posts about receiving books in Spanish for bilingual kids. I mean, she thought of everyone. So let's hit some more, let me see, let's hit some videos. Let's go. We should never forget that Dolly Parton chose to not be a billionaire. Because she could have. Dolly Parton made so much money, she could have let her money make money.

But instead, she chose to reinvest in people and her community. And today, when I went to my mailbox on the day she died, there was proof of that sitting right there waiting for me. It was this book right here, Forts from the Dolly Parton Imagination Library. since the day my son has been born once a month, the Dolly Parton Imagination Library in partnership with local non-profits has mailed my son like millions of American kids across America a book for his parents to read to him,

to foster a love of reading and literacy and dreams and wonder. And when my son gets home, we'll unwrap this and we'll read it. But she sent many books to us. She said in this book, it's called A Little Emotional. Because again, Dolly Parton spent millions of dollars making sure that kids were not illiterate. She wanted to make sure that kids knew how to read, how they could understand the world around them

and that they could understand how to process their emotions. This is what she spent her money on instead of buying Twitter. She sent the animal song to my son, instead of trying to buy an election. She sent little poems for tiny ears instead of trying to spread misinformation about fucking vaccines. She sent dandelion magic to our front door instead of villainizing fucking trans people,

J.K. Rowling. She sent Kayas for kindness. instead of trying to go and harp even more on dividing us as a people. She said, Lama Lama meets the babysitter instead of going and reinvesting in Palantir. She sent the big slide instead of making sure we slid into fascism. She said, how we say I love you instead of making us hate each other. She said, let's explore the she shore instead of buying flock cameras. She said, don't lose Mr. Cuddles, a book all about loss.

and how to get around and over these feelings through your family. She sent birding for babies, and she sent my son's favorite book, Gaga, Mistake Day. A book about how you can hang out with your grandmother and be silly and make mistakes, and everything will be all right. That pile is proof of why Dolly Parton will be remembered and loved, not because her names on the side of a building, not because of anything else, but because she reinvested in people. It's powerful, man.

Pearl man. I mean, some of the, some of the taking shots of personal people in the middle of the thing is not necessarily in the spirit of how a Dolly did that. But that's, that's his, everyone has their own.

But you gotta be you. Yeah. You gotta be you, man. It definitely tears me up, man. The whole Dolly partner of it all because I don't know if you got it in. Do you have the, the post of her voice talking about her mom?

I sent it to you this morning. You may have not. I had time to get it in. I didn't see that one. Okay, yeah. So it's Dolly's voice talking about a Christmas with her mother. And Dolly, where Dolly's from, I think it's the Great Smoky Mountains region of Tennessee. And I think she had like.

11 siblings. I think she's one at 12 or something. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So she basically is narrating this piece and she was like, all my mama had was kids. And we used to go to the church. And this one Christmas, the church got together and gave all the kids grab bags.

And because we had so many kids in the family, the lady at the church turned to my mom because they were going to give some of the adults grabbacks and was like, you'll be okay because, you know, you got so many kids in the family and whatever. Yeah, yeah. And her mother went off to the side and started crying. Oh. And Dolly talks about as a kid going over to her mom. Yeah. and wanting to share her back. Oh, and that's what she was.

Yeah, what a beautiful woman. Yeah, no, but it's a, it's, you know, when you think of like, and even, you know, like you said, Roosevelt, Pearl Mania taking shots at, you know, other people while he's bigging up, Dolly. Like, that is why, you know, once again, that's why she's so universally loved. It's not because she was trying to be,

you know, the most rich or have her name on the most thing. You know what I mean? She was really trying to help people. Because I think she was the type of person that grew up around a lot of poor people and knew that people just need to feel included and loved. She kind of never lost that he's meant it. This is going to sound whatever. Her brand kind of was what Michael dreamed his brand would be.

But the controversies and all the other things didn't allow for it. She literally has an amusement park for children. Yeah. Respectfully to a man who is work I love, it's not a weird name for her house where people visit her. She opened an amusement park that is hugely successful called Dollywood.

And there's a foundation attached to it that raises gazillions of dollars. Like she just really, by all accounts, just seemed to do everything the exact right way. I mean, and not just Michael, anybody I think would have wanted their legacy to feel this way. Yeah.

Then, of course, there's, you know, you're going to hear a lot, and we have been about the Whitney Houston I Will Always Love You Cover. I think it's important for anyone younger than us, because we probably take it for granted. If you're younger than, like 10 years younger than us, I would say, you may not have an appreciation for how big the moment of I Will Always Love You was. The Whitney moment. Yes. The bodyguard. The movie. We don't remember her, Dolly's version. Right. Which is in the 70s. So the story moving around that Dolly told in recent years many times, and of course it's a great story, is that she made the song. The song was a sizable hit. Elvis caught wind of the record.

Obviously, it was a big record. At that time, everyone covered records. That was just what the business was. Colonel Parker reached out to Dolly Pardin, said Elvis would love to cover your song. She said, oh, my God, I love Elvis. Amazing. The night before they're going to studio, Colonel Parker. calls her again and is like, hey, he's cutting the record tomorrow, just so you know, you know,

when Elvis covers a record, we take 50% of the publishing, right? Which, in retrospect, totally makes sense. Elvis is going to make your record way bigger than it was previously. I get why that was their plan. Like, well, you can keep some publishing, but we do take some of it because we're going to blow a record out, right? She was like, heartbroken and it's like, oh, my God, I love Elvis. I want to do this, I can't give up 50% of my publishing. Well, and that, and for the audience, you know, I know we throw words right. I don't know if our audience knows. Now it means she would be giving Elvis 50% ownership of the lyrics that she wrote.

Right. Yeah, not. She was like, mm-mm, right. And if now, and listen, there are other records where that would take. And sidebar, Colonel Parker took advantage of Elvis also robbed him. So essentially, Colonel Parker was likely going to take some of that as well. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure this is not an Elvis thing.

This is the way Colonel Parker robbed people in general. And Dolly's like, oh, my God, I'm heartbroken. She said she cried for days over it, but was like, I can't do it. Like, I'm not giving up that. So fast forward to 1991 or whatever it was, 90. And Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston made this movie. And Kevin Costner, it was his, I think he directed the film, wanted this to be the song, reaches out.

They agree to do the song. of course keeps full publishing for the song I can't speak for everybody but I can tell you guys that in the memory of my life if I were to stop at moments of time in history and think of like a song that literally encapsulated like a two years span it was that record it was the movie is a nothing burger the movie is like an answer to a trivia question it's only a thing because Whitney's in it it's random it was not a huge success and celebrated as a film but her rende of that song became, I guess, the biggest moment

in her career too, right? At least one of them. One of, yeah. But my guess is is number one in sales. Yeah. It's, and she bodies the song. It takes over the entire world. The people our age, at least me, I don't know about you, Laura.

I had no idea that wasn't Whitney's song until after that. Me too. And they're like, oh, that's Dolly Parton's song. Right, right, right. And the only reason I was, once again, I'm older than y'all, so I was already in radio. That was the only reason I knew

because someone at the station was like, oh, this is an old Dolly Parton. Right. And older people to station would know that. Right. But we wouldn't. It took me years to learn that. And I will say, because I remember hearing about this.

By the way, it's 1992. Dolly used millions of dollars in royalties that she earned from Whitney Houston's I will always love you. I think 10. I think she made like 10 million. She purchased and invested in an office complex and strip mall in a historically black neighborhood in Nashville. She bought commercial property.

And, you know, as they're saying that, a lot of developers purposely ignored this area. Yeah, she specifically said, I want to go to a place where I can support Whitney's people because Whitney's people are my people. And she called, yeah. And she called the house that Whitney built. So she took the money that she earned off

of Whitney's performance and turned around and said, I want to. Yes, producer Griff. That's actually now called 12 South in Nashville. It's the most popular stripper of real estate in the town. Most popular strip of real estate in Nashville, 12 South. For commercial?

It's called 12 South. 12 South. The movie Bodyguard on a $25 million budget earned $411 million. Oh, so it was a huge success. I just remember it being sort of like I don't know what the critics say.

No, I think Costa's not a good actor particularly. I remember I love him. But it was a big deal. I remember the, obviously, we live in America, so everything with a white guy and a black woman, that was a big topic

that this white guy was the bodyguard and fell in love with and there was a love story between a black woman and a white woman. Right. So that was kind of like an underlying thing. But I don't remember. I'll Google it. Or Griff, you can. What did critics say about, like, I don't know if they like it.

So maybe I'm completely wrong. From my childhood, I remember being like, I didn't think anything of the movie except the highlights of it in the video for the song. But again, I was also too young for the desired audience. Right. But I'm shocked it did that well. 400 million? Yeah.

Bam, it was huge. It originally received mixed to negative reviews from critics who pan the script, the predictable pot boiler, yet it became a massive global box office smash and cultural touchstone largely driven by Houston's powerhouse soundtrack and StarPow. But Cisco and Iber gave it a thumbs up. Oh, really? Well, Cisco and Iber were in. They knew what time it was. So, but it does say mixed to negative. No, no, I knew I remembered it, but that's stupid.

Isn't that funny how like that stupid thing, like, leaked into my brain from a 12-year-old? I wouldn't have thought it was... Now, it's 38% on Rotten Tomatoes good. No. But you can't trust that because maybe it's race haters. Yeah. Yeah, but well, that's... No, no, but Rotten Tomatoes is an amalgamation of the...

Or not amalgamation. What's the word I'm looking for? It's the... It's taking all of the reviews and give you that. So it's not public. That's... Okay. That's critics.

I do want to play... It is interesting. I do want to play video 38. Dolly on Apple Music. I'm curious to see this, because this is special. My life is really kind of like a Cinderella story. And I do hope more than anything that I've been an inspiration, that I can be an inspiration,

maybe something I've said or something I've done, that might make some difference. And just to say, well, you know, if she did it, I can do it. There you go, Dolly. All right, so some of the other ones that are fire. Let's do, let's do 32, Dolly Parton on Larry King. Didn't you recently, though, throw support to the LGBT community? Oh, I'm always encouraged.

I'm not encouraged. They've made me the postal child, I think, only because I'm so outspoken as far as just being accepting of people in general. I do not believe that we should criticize and judge other people. I think we should be accepting and loving. We are all God's children. We are who we are, and we should be allowed to be who we are. Did any of the faith-based communities that deeply believe the other way take umbrage with you?

Oh, absolutely. They did? Oh, yes. I get it all the time. I keep saying, well, if you're the fine Christian that you think you are, why are you judging people? Why are you, that's God's job. We're not God. We're not judges.

You know, we're supposed to love one another. We're supposed to not judge, and we're not supposed to take vengeance on other people. That's God's job. So I got too much to do my own, try to do God. God's work too. I mean not to you know to get into trying to do all that so yeah I have to I suffer for everything I do I'm not out to make any you know I just think that we should be more loving more caring we are who we are if you're gay you're gay if you're straight you're straight and you should be allowed to be you know how how you are and who you are um how about 31 dolly pardon and

Kermit jamming out to sly in the family. There you go. Why not? I can be right. I can be wrong. Be young. Different strokes or different friends. Got a ribbit to this.

Got a ribbid in. By the way, me and Alan were joking yesterday. Them, them putting the flag at half mass for Dolly Pardon really does a disservice to how young men and boys always saw a Dolly pardon. Shouldn't be half master dolly. It should be double mass.

Oh my God. The flag should be, it should go extended beyond where it usually goes. Because Dolly from like the early 70s through the 80s was a... This is why we can't have any. We're not going to ignore it. Her hotness will not be ignored. Will not be ignored. We brought up Whitney, but didn't play Whitney Houston talking.

Oh, that's a lot of awesome. From the Grammys, I believe. Listen, I got a lot of folks to think, so I'm going to put this down for a second. Dolly, of course, coming from you. This is truly an honor. you wrote a beautiful song. Thank you so much for writing such beautiful songs. All right.

That's beautiful. I want to know what the sales were. Of what? I would love you. Because I really, I mean, guys, it was, you could not turn around. It's still one of the biggest songs of all time, guys. It sold over 20 million copies worldwide, 11 times platinum certification in the U.S. It was, it spent 14 weeks at number one.

in 92 and 93. Wow. I remember my friends we used to, I remember my friends and I used to play a game of trying to always catch the, you ever play the game trying to catch the drum? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

That was the thing. It's Whitney's third, I think, well, on Apple Music, it's Whitney's third biggest streaming song. Okay. Streaming song. What's your first? First is I want to dance with somebody.

Oh, okay. And second is saving all my love. That's bizarre. So respect to saving all my love. love it's bizarre but i just think well no i think that as as um as something you're going to listen to time and time again i will always love you is something that when you hear it you're going to stop you're going to listen to it but it goes back to that conversation about songs that you are huge songs that do you opt in to listen to i will always love you just because joe by the way she

had 11 number one billboard records uh Whitney Whitney Whitney got 11 the biggest one, the longest raining was I will always love you for sure. 14 weeks. I want to dance with somebody spent two weeks. Greatest love of all spent three weeks. How will I know spent two weeks? All the man that I need from 1990 spent two? Yeah, she had a lot of smashes this lady.

So emotional. Where do broken hearts go? By the way, there was another, there was another hit off of Bodyguard too. What was the other hit off body? I have nothing. I have nothing. I have nothing. I have nothing.

Nothing. She's crazy, right? I know I've got to go back. Now I've got to watch the movie. What did you say, Grip? Run to you as well. Yeah. Oh, it runs to you.

She had three hits off of that joint. Yeah. That's a, it's, it's, uh, I was going through Dolly Records yesterday, too, because, like, I only know a handful. There's so many fun ones. There was another interview clip I saw, was it the Barbara Walters, um, where her, she described, oh, because Barbara's questioning her style. Being like, you know, you don't have to dress like this.

You don't have to be this way. that's really what Barbara's angle is and Dolly's story that she tells her is well when I was growing up we used to go to I forget which town she said we used to we used to go to so-and-so town and there was this one town and I mean she was like the local

she was like the local trash horror literally that's what she said and she said I mean I only say that that's what my mom used to call her anyways I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world and I thought I want to be exactly like her when I grow up And she was like, and I don't know if she was a whore. She may have just loved the way it looked the way I love the way it looked.

But I love the way she looked. And I decided when I get older, I'm in the dress exactly like that. Yep. She takes no, like, there was just no shame in her being like, I like to look sexy. I like to be this. And this is what I find beautiful. Yeah. Yeah.

And it didn't, it's not like the content that she put out. Like, it's not like she was making raunch. She was just a sexy looking person. Well, I think even today for people who do make raunch, right? or dress however they dress or whatever, it's a similar interpretation of you don't have to like what I like. You know what I'm saying? And you don't have to listen to what I listen to.

And you don't have to listen to what I make. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but I'm not going to, I mean, maybe I'll just justify my old judgment. But when the, when the music that follows it is literally just porn also, if it's what you, if it's what you truly love, I guess, I take no judgment in it. If it feels like it's like, this is what I need to do

because it's the only way to take the album. Well, and I think that's why. But that's also why Barbara asked the question or says the question is because of that thought. Right. The thought is you're dressing like this because it gets you attention. Right. Or her mom even judging the quote unquote trash whore. We don't know if she was a whore.

Your mom was calling her that because she was dressed in a way that got attention in ways that women should not. You should not be doing. Yeah. It all leads down the same path of like, and back to even what Dolly stands for. Man, we're all God's children. it's not you're not the judge here that's right but that and that comes back to sort of our topics of the week right like this whole women's trans issue that continues to be turned into a narrative by certain people ultimately it comes down to this huge judgment that everyone has and a fear

that's all it is well and a fear based in the unknown or the lack of understanding right boom I think I publicly said I don't think trans women men who transition to be women should be playing in women's sports sure I think we could all agree with that I think well I think we can certainly have a conversation

without it being offensive that's right like that is a that is a conversation that deserves attention I do currently have a problem with Enos Cantor and other dudes throwing dildos or showing up to protest With a shirt and trying to mansplain what a woman is to a league full of women. Right.

At games where women and currently nobody who transitioned or is trans is currently at. I have a problem with that. And I should be able to have a conversation about both and have, you know, agree on one side and disagree on another side. But that's a nuance that the internet doesn't necessarily embrace. But that conversation isn't allowed to be nuanced. No one wants the conversation to be. nuance. They want to make it really simple and just go, these men can't play with women instead of

taking time and go, hold on, let's have a conversation. Let's be respectful of who these people are. The idea, given the way your attitude about these people are, why do you think they'd want to sign up for that? Like, look at the vitriol coming from you. You think someone would voluntarily just be like, yo, you know, it would be dope? If I could have everyone judge me and be really mean and live in fear, because percentage-wise, my life is in more danger than any other group. I'm going to sign up for this. And even in that thought, you've skipped a whole step. You know why?

It ain't even happening yet. We're not even there. What are we talking about? But that's the fear part. You've jumped all the way to a slippery slope of something that could potentially maybe it might. Ah, ah. And so now you're abusing people who are currently doing the work. You're making their work environment bad because you jumped all the way to fearmonger.

all the way to some other shit instead of just being like, hey, maybe we should address something that could potentially be a thing and maybe there should be policy written and maybe we should have a conversation about it, but you jumped all the way to creating a social media moment

or creating some sort of, you know, divisive, uh, antagonistic situation that makes it even more unhealthy for everyone involved. That's my problem. If you've made the environment toxic, you've made it unhealthy and now it's tough to even have a legitimate discussion because now it's based in emotion and not logic.

Yeah, it's a political football. It's a political football. Oh, conveniently once again, right before the midterms to try to get us to talk about this issue instead of real issues. Like, you know, I don't know, people putting gas in the car, people trying to figure out how to get their kids back in school. The fact that, you know, school buses don't have drivers and shit like that. The fact that, you know what I mean, kids need like shoes and books. Oh, I don't know. They have babies, literal one-year-olds showing up to immigration court without parents.

And a judge, a serious judge, a person who went to school, a university, has some credentials, talking to a one-year-old. And telling a one-year-old that they should have signed documents. That's happening. Yeah, that's happening. That's happening. But we're talking about, it just happened last week. There was video of this? Yes.

And stories and news. It's not being covered. It's not on your Algo. That a judge, a sitting judge, an immigration judge, had a one-year-old sitting in front of him with an immigration attorney sitting next to him. The attorney said nothing while the judge spoke to a one-year-old. Yeah, that happened. You can't talk to a one-year-old about anything.

Why is this happening? So there's real shit going on, and we're talking about something that's not going on. Right. But it's all done on purpose, though. Yes. That's all it is. It's all done on purpose. It's to, you know, shake up the base to make everyone angry, to be like, yeah, you know what?

I do. I don't like those people. I don't want my children to be exposed. But they need, Laura, they need to go back to that issue because what do they have? Yeah. Every single thing that they ran on is an abject failure. They know that. Like no one thinks the Iran thing is good.

No one thinks the gas prices or food prices are. better. Everyone thinks that every single thing the administration doing is a failure. Yeah. With November around the corner, in theory, guys, you know, we could be a couple of months away from basically the Trump administration losing their power to do anything. They could be too much. They don't want to talk about it. It could basically be over. Like to, and obviously that doesn't mean we could go to sleep, certainly. But we could get to a place where a couple of months from now, the reign of terror is kind of done and you can stall them out now and at least start to minimize their damage till the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they know, they got to go back to their bread and butter issues.

Yeah, but that's not, in that time period, it's not going to stop ICE facilities opening up upstate New York, which they're trying to do, and Governor Hoke was trying to get answers for right now, right? It's also, even this incident, which was in Arizona, an unrepresented one-year-old baby, was told by a judge to file an asylum application by their next hearing or face deportation. They said that to a baby. Yes, Rosembourg. It's happening.

This was an attorney from the Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project observed the unrepresented infant in the courtroom. Now, once again, in 2018, this also happened. When a one-year-old from Honduras appeared in a Phoenix immigration court, but at least this time, the judge said he was embarrassed to ask. the one-year-old baby but still did it you know why this takes place is because uh these children have no right to uh immigration representation or an appointed council well there was a program um and i don't know if this is statewide or in certain states that would automatically give council

to minors well now that program has been you know all those contracts have been given to an ex-ice Right, right, right, right. Because he will know what to do, right? An ex-ice agent. Yeah. Well, yeah, because they run, an ex-ice agent runs the, I think, the legal counsel, right, that the Trump is doing the deal with. Yeah.

That the ice facility did the deal with. So, yeah, that's happening. How's the food going in the country? Are we good? No. The meat. What about the meat? 300,000 cubic tons of beef?

I don't know. I don't know where that's at. How about the, but at least the veggies and stuff are good, the veggies and the fruit. No, not. Well, the last, last week. we were having problems. And by the way, and on that note, listen, we are having problems,

but it is specific farms and specific brands. It should be noted, right? It is specific farms and specific brands. But this is happening because of the Food and Drug Administration where you were supposed to have scientists and people who do this work, they're monitoring and regulating in the name of cutbacks and deregulation, which people voted for.

They want that's great. They took those people out. of it. Doge did a great job, right? Getting rid of the waste. You know, I'm not going to lie, guys. Now you got a different type of waste. Right.

I'm not going to lie, guys. I love them. I love Swizz and Timbo. For some reason, someone's moving that picture around of election season and them on the boat partying with Elon Musk, and it sent me. Nah, Swiss. I know for, they hated that. They were so mad.

They were so. Was it about trying to do the business? They were trying to set up the verses? They were, I think it was trying to set up versus to have a streaming partner, I think was the plan, but timing was bad, and that's why they faded out of that quick. And so then they go to have a meeting with the guy, and they end up framing it. The pictures that they show, it looks like they just went and party with Elon Musk. Well, it might have been a social gathering.

I don't know. You know, meetings happen at social gatherings all the time. Hey, come over to this thing. Let's talk about it while we're doing the thing. Well, and Elon Musk doesn't seem like the most straightforward sort of person, which is why you probably don't even want to do business with him in the first place. Yeah, I mean, you know, evidence suggests. Well, they ended up in a reputable place, at least.

Yeah, no, it ended up okay, but yeah, it was bad at the time. I mean, there was a lot of people who used to throw the Elon Musk name around. You know what I mean? Because he's got a lot of money. And if you're, look, the shitty part about doing business in America is the people who control getting access to revenue to do a thing are people that many of us don't like that much. And we don't like their moral compass that much either.

And the way they make money and the way they make investments, that's just a fact. When we're going to be dealing with friggin musk for a long time, bro. No, for the rest of your life. For basically the rest of our lives. And your child's life. Yeah. He's, he's, well, I hope he won't last the rest of my child's life, for God's sake. Well, no, I'm just.

And he lives like a crazy person. I mean, who knows what ends up happening. Yeah, but I mean, there will be another one. There will, there will always be another one when you, listen, these people, they, we live in a culture that's winning is based on how much money you have. That's what winning is. Yeah. Right?

that's it like once again back to dolly part and the reason we're all sitting around grieving and universally grieving is because this is a person while yes being famous and yes making money that wasn't what their brand was about correct you know what I'm saying their brand was about something else but in our society the current president of the United States his brand has always been about how much money he has putting his name on sides of buildings et cetera et cetera successes Elon Musk success is trying to, you know, being a billionaire. Warren Buffett, you know, that's what all of these individuals in our nation,

and even when you think of like rappers, they've all been trying to be the individual with the most money. Yeah, yeah. And make it to a billionaire, be a billionaire, Billy. All right, let me hit some more, let me hit some more stories that are going around. Yes. So this is good news. This made me happy.

HBO has given a pilot order to an untitled half an hour comedy by E. Issa Ray. So it's written and executive produced by Issa. So this one is a twist because everybody thought it was going to be some kind of like insecure spin off. But this one follows a character named Menzel who's a 30 year old barber, aspiring sports manager whose best friend is J.B. An Up and Coming Boxer and the two navigate the insecurities and ambitions and pressures of success in the boxing world in Las Vegas. Well, it does sound sort of like insecure. The male version.

I mean, it did have insecurities in the main description of the... I mean, boxing world... Best friends. It's going to be dope. I'm excited about it. That sounds pretty cool. Yes. Also, this is a random casting, but I was like, okay, Lauren London is said to portray

Beverly Tate, who Snoop Dogg's mother in Universal Pictures upcoming biopic called Snoop. Snoop. Oh, there's a Snoop biopic on the way? It's coming. Yep. It's supposed to hit theaters August 6, 2027. And it's the first film under Death Row Pictures with NBC Universal. I'm still in a weird place with these biopics

while the person is like completely active and still seems like themselves is still a tough spot for me. Right. Like Snoop will be walking the red carpet looking exactly like Snoop. Well, and this goes back to, I think we talked about this during the Michael movie

and then how much these biopics increase people going back to listen to the music. Yeah. So at a time where cataloged music, because there's so much new music, you're in a day the law, it's new music, I think there's a world where this helps, like, you know, Snoop owns the, I think controls or owns, I don't know, to a degree, the death row catalog.

So now plugging that music and being able to clear that music and put it into a different form, I mean, tell the story, but is that- We'll get people, I'm just talking about the business. I don't know. Yeah. But that's the problem is your lead, that's probably what people are leading with. Yeah.

Is like this is a way. But like, I just. And that's why you're going to see a lot of the music ones. But can't we like, I mean, Dolly just passed. When are we working on Dolly? Like, she's, you know, she's her career in a, heyday was the eight was the 70s. And there hasn't been a Dolly biopic yet. Michael even took, they took a good 16 years after his passing.

Yeah. And 30 some 40 years after his prime. Snoop, you know, Snoop's prime prime, I guess was 30 years ago. His prime, prime prime. But he's still such a. huge active artist still putting out dope records is still like a you know

I don't know it just feels lazy like there's no one else for us to get to who we can educate on before we jump to the biopics of people who are like gonna do the soundtrack for their own movie so there was a Snoop won it there was a biographical oh no I guarantee which was Snoop one there was a biographical documentary

Dolly Parton here I am made in 2019 a biographical documentary documentary documentary yeah yeah Okay, okay. Dolly Parton's coat of many colors was made for television, biographical drama, film loosely based on her early upbringing in rural Tennessee, 2015. About her childhood.

Yeah, TV movie. It says loosely based on her early upbringing. Code of many colors, dope record, too. So those are the two things that they've made. But not like a... Yeah, but not like a major box office. Yes, King Lou. Yeah, and I was going to say, and the only other thing is the Broadway show that's going to open up in December.

Oh, wow. I forgot about that. I'll be there. Dolly opens in December. Yeah, as those Dolly's wish. Wow, that's dope. That's going to be a smash. What?

We also didn't mention, by the way, that in all of our talking about happened, that her husband passed away like a year ago. Wow. I don't know. Was that soon? Yeah, yeah. Her husband just happened. Wow.

Rest in peace, Dolly. Anyway, that's what I got. Dolly, a true original. Dolly, Broadway, and NYC. You can get tickets. Right now. Putting on the calendar, bro? What?

I'm trying to get up in there. Now on sale. Damn. Holiday trip to see Dolly? So the Broadway performances begin December 7th. Opening night is set for January 19, 2027, which would be Dolly Parton's 81st birthday. And she was planning to be on there,

be there for the first show. Oh. Damn, damn, damn. Super dope. So it says Dolly Parton, the Broadway plays based on a book, that Dolly Parton co-wrote with Maria S. Schladder and who also serves as, Dolly serves as a producer on the project.

So that's dope. When is Snoop, when is Snoop hitting Broadway? Broadway. Do your jazz hands? How are they going to do gin and juice on Broadway? We got the gin. We've got the juice. What else you got, Laura Stow?

Well, yes, let's hit this. This popped up today. Amy Winehouse's back. a black album is getting a deluxe reissue for its 20th anniversary. It's dropping October 23rd. So it's going to have, you know, alternative cover art, unseen photography, new liner notes from Mark Ronson and Salam Remy, limited edition vinyl, you know, just a bunch of unreleased takes.

But this sounds really, really dope. And this is going, it's dropping October 23rd. So I'm excited about this. I love that album. Maybe we can get Mark and Salam to come in and. chat about it. Yeah, I'm chatting with Salam, so we'll see. Did you see?

You've been texting with Salam? Yes, my friend. Did you see that there's a 10-year Divine Feminine album of vinyl coming out as well? Mac Miller. Yes, right. Dope. Which that album, if you haven't spent time with it,

hit the button on yourself because it is a masterpiece. Ten years already. Damn, ten years. Ten years since Divine Feminine. That's the run down. There you go. Did you see the, did you see the, Did you see Eminem's?

Did you see Eminem's letter to Dolly? I saw, I didn't read. There it is. Marshall. Well, this is Dolly's letter to Eminem. Yeah. So he put this out. And she said, congrats on your induction

to the Rock and Hall of Fame. Your performance was amazing and everybody said so. Even though I don't know a lot about rap music, I've come to know that you are one of the very best at it. Aside from that, I hope what I have to say will not seem weird or strange to you. But I've always felt some unexplained connection to you, like I know you somehow.

I had hoped to meet you at the show, but you know how nuts those things are. Personally, I hate them, and I miss my chance. But maybe someday we'll meet. In the meantime, keep doing what you're doing because you do it so well, no matter how complex your world may be, just know you are very special

and touch people in ways you don't even know with love and respect, Dolly Park. Very nice. She's out here writing letters. Maybe they felt connected because they're from, you know, similar upbringing. Yeah, that's what I assume,

the trailer park trash and the, smoky mountain white trash sort of. Midwest. You know. Vives. Well, Midwest did you? South.

Tennessee doesn't get Midwest. It doesn't. No. It is, but it is. But it doesn't. But it is. But it's not. But it's not. But it's also not. It's definitely just South. You all ready for the gurus?

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Your destination for clarity. Let's see. Friendship fallout. Hey, Ebro Lauren Rosenberg, love the podcast. Been a listener to y'all since before COVID. Oh, by the way, we should also mention that. Dolly Pardon spent millions of her own dollars to help the testing and building of the Moderna COVID vaccine.

Oh, wow. Yeah, into her own pocket because, you know, I don't know, something about her wasn't into millions of Americans. dying. So she thought, hey, let me help. We should work. We should work on finding. What are the solutions we have available to stopping mass amounts of people from dying? Oh, vaccines. They've been using it for centuries. Real quick, before I restart this email, I saw a clip moving around the other day. I think, was it, Louis, was it Michael Porter Jr.?

NBA player talking about the COVID vaccine? I'm not going to get into a whole thing about everything he said. He's like proudly being like, I'm one of the few players who didn't take the vaccine and there was just one line that ebro that sent me he just sent me he was like but you know they made my life really hard not taking the vaccine they were testing us every day and multiple times and you know my one thing is i just want to know like why why did they so badly want us to take this vaccine you know what i mean why what's the hidden agenda as to why this vaccine had such a push. And I was like, well, I'm not saying

you don't have the right to be against it or whatever feelings you think are, but I think the why was the millions of people dying. Yeah, the global pandemic. It was the why we know. If it was a random vaccine that popped about it nowhere, like, hey, do you hear of that disease? I know you don't know about it,

but you need to take this vaccine. But there's no disease yet, but we all know people who died. We personally all know people who died. I know. Well, there's also, if you want to go conspiracy, and I always tell people this, we talked about this at the time. They want you to go back to work

because they need to make money. Oh, you can't have the cities just be empty. You can't just have everything shut down so the easiest way you can get people back to work so they can make money, so they can buy things, so that they can put food in the fridge so that people can, you know, do all of the things that we do to keep the world going,

is to make sure that being around each other doesn't kill each other. Well, beautiful. Now the food is able to go in the fridge. It's just too expensive and it'll kill you if you eat it. But besides that, it's fun. Well, it won't kill you. Just do-do on yourself for a month, which could kill you.

All right, guys, I love the podcast. Been listening to before COVID. When I went back to work, I stumbled across the podcast on Apple Podcasts and started listening from day one. I'm still trying to catch up with you guys now. That's hilarious. Anyways, I need some. People who listen to old, old episodes, that is a very funny concept to me.

I'm almost 40, married, mom of three. three and a pastor's wife. About three years ago, I met a woman at my complex's pool. We became casual friends, but over the past year, our friendship got much closer. Our daughter's about three years old, and my daughter loves her daughter. She began attending our church. Our kids were dedicated together. Is that dedicated as a religious thing?

Maybe. My husband officiated her wedding. Damn, y'all got after it quick in this year. Right. We would go on daily walks with the kids, play dates, lunch dates, and she even baked cookies for my kids regularly. we've become very close. Earlier this year, while I was on maternity leave,

my friend invited us to her birthday dinner. I just want to say, guys, so far I'm very intrigued on where the story's going to be. It was a pay-per-plate dinner at her home, and because I wasn't working, we have multiple kids. My husband and I felt we simply couldn't afford it. I also told her I wasn't sure I could attend

because I was returning back to work and didn't know if I could get the day off. After that, she completely stopped. speaking to me. She stopped attending our church and online Bible study and no longer responds to my texts. Honestly, I'm okay with losing the friendship. What I'm struggling with is my three-year-old. She constantly asks, can I go play with her? Can we go to her house? Can we call her? We live in the same complex. So whenever we pass her house, my daughter asks if we can stop at her house. How do I explain to a three-year-old that she can't see her friend anymore because mommy

and her friend's mom aren't friends? My husband thinks we should just get her around new people and help her make new friends, which I agree with. But I hate that. From my daughter's perspective, her friend, her little friend just disappeared. So parent to parent, what would you guys do? Do I simply say she's not available to play right now and redirect her? Or is there a more age appropriate way to explain that mommy and her friend aren't friends anymore? Thanks for all the laughs and advice. Before you guys, I'm not at this stage yet. So before I defer to you guys, get your thought. I just am amazed at how many adults have like one-time events happen in which a friend

can't attend an event or be a part of it and they will burn a whole thing down. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's crazy. It's like y'all are three years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I swear to God. Teenagers, right. With the exception of my wedding and even my wedding, Seif couldn't come to my wedding.

He had to go perform for Shane Gillis's grandf. father's uncle. I don't know. I don't care. It's what he, I know that he would have wanted to be there. Life happens. Yeah. But maybe he didn't want to be there and he loves you nonetheless. Or that. Or that. And he's like, you know what? I went to a Rosenberg wedding. I'm good. I don't know. Either way, though, it's like at, Syfa, there are many things that annoy me about Syf. Not one thing that I ever think about is that he didn't come to my event. I just like, can adults control yourselves about like, or destroying friendships because someone couldn't make it to something? Art, I'm done.

What are you guys? No, there's a lot of people who feel like that. What's happened to me? I lost a friend because I couldn't attend her events. Like after two, and mind you, I just couldn't do it. And she just stopped talking to me. Were they really your friend? And then when I asked, that's how I said.

They were like, yeah, I just feel like, you know, these things are important to me. And then that means that I'm not important to you. So I was like, because I couldn't attend your events, but I'm there every other time you need me. I said, okay, you know what? Maybe we're friends. By the way, to me, it's the, God forbid, my mom is sick. I, so-and-so died. I called you, you didn't call me back.

All right, now we can have a conversation. That's being a bad friend. You were in need. You reached out, person let you down. I can see that being, let me assess whether I matter to them. I'm holding a paper plate dinner at my house. So ridiculous. And you weren't able to come.

And now I cold turkey you and cold turkey, my daughter from your daughter. daughter are you all three well the question is what what do I tell my little girl about not being able to play with the yeah how do how does she handle and she said her daughter's three yeah three years old three is little where I think you just kind of you either a just say hey they haven't got be honest they haven't got back to us about playing so let's just do something else and redirect um you know I guess if your daughter a year later as she gets more mature goes hey what Mommy, whatever happened to so-and-so. And then you just keep it real.

Hey, sometimes people just don't want to hang out no more. And they move on and you got to move on. Look, that's just what it is, bro. That's just, that's the answer. Like she's going to have to deal with this again in some way. But she's three. Like Ebro said, I would just redirect it. I'd be like she's not available.

Like I talk hands of that too when she wants to like hang with certain people. And it's a truth. I'd be like, hey, they're not available. We'll try again. Or they haven't text me back. Just do that. And reinforce. Because I've definitely done this with both my kids where like in the moment they go over to be nice to a kid and the kid is like

You know, so Lasi walks in the parks all the time Hi guys That's nuts that's that's that's my energy my energy is big who's my friend right here yeah, yeah, yeah And you gotta watch them kind of like nobody respond Parents don't even say anything breaks your heart right and so you could just kind of go ahead they don't want to hang out let's make our own fun Right because you have to my brother was saying that to me the other day that in that moment when you're watching your kid and she's trying to be friends with someone

and the person's like, beat it. As adults, we're like, oh my God. As a kid, they're kind of like, you could redirect them one second later in the book. Yeah. But for us, it hurts.

It hurts us so bad. Talking about it, I tear up. I know, like, who wouldn't want to be friends with Slossi? Have you seen her? I know, I know. But no, I think that's all you can do is the truth kind of is the answer.

Like, yeah, seems like they don't want to hang out. Redirect it. And then afterwards, you start being honest. Well, and honestly, you also have to remind yourself, if somebody's doing that,

an adult, to your point, you dodged a bullet, man. Like, I've definitely, I remember conversations in college, not with dudes, but, you know,

girls, girls have, like a, y'all have, like, requirements to be friends and shit. Like, I expect my friend to,

my friends need to, if you're going to be my friend, I remember in college is, one girl was like, if you're going to be my friend, then I need you to. I was like, what? Are you talking about? Like, either we cool, when we say it works out.

What are you saying? What are you saying to me about like this work? It sounds like a job and I don't want it. I quit. Yeah, I quit. It was in college at the time. You know, I was super insane. I didn't give shit.

Right. And she, you know, it was probably some other shit working where she wanted more. And I was really like, eh. Probably. You know what I mean? But nonetheless, it felt. felt like a job and this sounds like that too where it was like oh we did this and then we had to do this together and it was like this fast track into like now we are locked in for life as

besties forever and then one one paper plate meal you guys are dismantled forever now it's you know the the hat fields and mccoys and we're going to war and our kids can't even be what the fuck are you talking about it's so true it's it's actually i want more guru emails about this because it's This is a fascinating subject. Fascinating. The people who would throw it. My birthday thing a little while ago, bro, I had good friends, people I love, who said they were 100% coming and then just didn't show up.

And maybe said my bad, maybe it didn't. I mean, we're adults out here. It is what it is. Rosenberg and I have been co-workers for how long? 20 years. And we're friends. We could tell we would talk if we didn't do this. The only reason I went to his last.

birthday party. Yeah. It was because so much effort was put into it. Once I found out where it was, like it wasn't just some random Joe Blow bar with people standing around. He was like, no, he's making an effort. I need to show up here because this guy's putting an effort. But if it would have been like, you know, some, you know, round the way bar and people

standing around with eating mixed nuts, I'm not coming. And by the way, and I wouldn't have expected it. And by the way, if you couldn't have come to this, I wouldn't care. You wouldn't care. I just, but I'm glad I'm there because I couldn't make it. I don't even. I don't even. I don't even.

even think about the only people who I found remotely irritating were friends of ours who we like communicated with that day because we're trying to get a number of course you just want to know what the numbers are because you don't want to end up overspending and things like that people are like oh see you tonight my dog and then you're like hell why you not show up hell a week ago Laura called me drunk to plan a birthday trip yeah I haven't even checked back with her on it or talk to jazz you may never hear from it again confirmed so should I be back exactly you may talk to me anymore. I haven't talked to jazz about it

and I haven't checked it with you about. People are no, y'all are really nuts. Throwing away friendships that were that cool and community like. But were they that cool? But were they that cool? It just happened to over three months period of them. The husband is the pastor who officiated the wedding, bro. Well, also why

they jump so maybe they were weirdos for jumping that fall in love with you. No, but her husband's a pastor. But she, they joined her church. And they stopped going. They joined the church, had the husband officiating. And and threw all that out over a paper plate. So they're weirdos.

They're weirdos. You dodged a bullet, so say the go. There you go. Weirdos are sometimes the answer. By the way, it's true. I was thinking about you yesterday, Laura. Shout to my knee doctor's office and all. Everybody over there at Dr. Williams office, HSS,

I was in there to get ready for my knee surgery in November. So the people who make the schedule, I walk in there and they're talking about What's the woman with the, the, the, the, uh, the, uh, postpartum that killed her babies? Oh, the Lindsay Clancy case. The Lindsay Clancy case is now taking a turn where they're suspecting that the husband actually killed the babies and was drugging Lindsay Clancy. And, and, and the postpartum while she was asking for help and all this, he took an opportunity to basically set her up to appear that she killed her own children. That's where the trial took a turn to.

I mean, this has been going on and the internet. A lot of people have speculated this. But is it a real possibility or is it just like... Anyway, that was the conflict. Okay, sorry. So that's a comment. I don't know, Rosenberg, because I haven't been following. But then I guess Lindsay Clancy's like paraplegic because she fell off a balcony.

And they're like, did the husband throw her off a balcony? Yeah, she's in a wheelchair. I didn't know that part of it. So all I knew was this was a really sad story about how unchecked postpartum can lead to the worst. That's where it started. There's some turn taking place. Okay. Anyway, the people in the office are super into crime.

stuff. So I was thinking about Lord Stout. And I was like, I'm not into this. Like, why? I don't want a documentary on Charles Manson. Never going to watch it. Wasn't in a Hannibal Lecter or any of this like fictitious shit. Horrible stuff.

You know why? Because they're crazy people. They're weirdos. There's just crazy people and weirdos. Once I've done, you're a crazy weirdo. I'm out. That's it. I don't need a doc.

I don't want to hear your side of the story. Chalk it up to crazy weirdo. I totally, I feel you. I'm more fascinated in watching the stories on it sometimes, but then in real life you're like, yo, bro, I just found out you're weird. And like everybody has their own idiosyncrasies, but then there are people that are really childish and weird.

Well, and look, I have family members that were like, I thought you were normal. That's the word. You're not, what happened. And by the way, I think all of us, depending on what our life takes a turn and what happens to us, trauma, all that, are, you know, could potentially become weirdo.

It can happen all of them. Oh no. Well, we have all known good people who've become weirdos. Very strange, yeah. And look, we're weirdness to some people. So it is what it is. There you go. There you have it, Laura.

I need to watch the bodyguard later. Yes, King Lou. I was going to say, before we leave, don't forget, we have a Patreon episode. Son of a gun. We watched another episode of This is Hot 97. We did. Yeah, that's a good show.

Well, I don't know if you know, but this Hot 97's a good show. This one had some, This one has some weak moments, but what shows don't. That's exactly right. And what great shows, if you watch it, haven't had moments. It has great moments. It has phenomenal.

Mano, one of the great comedic actors of our time. No, no, no. Mayno is gold. Angie's gold. Like, it's gold. A lot of good stuff in there. Watch the Patreon today. Go on there right now.

There you go. And we'll see you guys tomorrow morning. Don't call in a pod.