The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 179.) Macklemore Removed From Ed Sheeran Tour + Emmy Night (9/15/26)

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

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Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. Just don't call it a podcast. Hey, a lot of McLemore talk. I'm assuming it's coming up today. Oh, my God, yes. A lot of McLemore talk. Not words you necessarily thought you were going to hear in 2026. What's crazy is I had text MacLamore in early August.

We talked about it. We did, right? And I was like, hey, he said he's going to be in town. Yep. And maybe he can come by the show. Who knew? I was just reaching out to the homie. Right.

I mean, we could have kind of knew. He has been pretty steady on this. Well, no, I didn't know that it would be an international incident. Right. I didn't know it was going to turn into like this thing where you have Robert Kraft and stadium. Apparently, Ed Shearant didn't know either. Which wish I might hit the button. Why, on which part?

Not knowing. I don't know if it was. Did he know? I don't know. How would one not guess? I don't think that he knew that stadiums would make him make an ultimatum. I think that's the next piece. Oh, no, but I meant that he wouldn't know that

McLemore would go that hard, given a stage. But when you look at what McElmore said, did McElmore really go that hard? No, no, but yes. You see what I'm saying? He took five, he gave like a 30 seconds or a minute, like a minute long, a minute long statement. Yeah.

No, the words he said were not going hard. Right. But the moment, it's a real moment. And was that the first time he did it? I don't know. Again, we don't know. and him and Ed Sharon, according to what McElmore put on his Instagram. Ed, this was not like news to Ed Shearer.

This is, he knew him and McElmore been friends. Well, that's, but I think no matter what we're saying, though, isn't it the button either way? I don't know. Either you didn't know he was going to do it. Button. You did know what he was going to do, but it got crazier than you thought it would on that subject. I'm sorry. Button.

But maybe it's good, though. You caved to Robert Kraft and the stadium owners and thought that was the way to go. That's what I'm saying is it's hard to say that there's not a button for Ed Shearren, no matter how you cut it. Not the worst kind of button, but he played himself. He's not going to be getting protested at these shows. I know. And then McElmore in his statement, which we can pull up.

I was going to do it in the rundown, but we can tackle this early. He did say. We could just call all this the rundown. How about that? Why don't you do that? Well, sure. The rundown turned that up. Screen's on glow when she pulled up.

Headlines heavy, but we still cut up. Light still flashing, we don't swim. All right, so you guys have seen Macklemore on stage. You know, I think it was about a minute. About a minute. You know, do you guys want to play it again? How long ago was it? A week now?

Yeah, a week. A week plus. September 4th. So two weeks ago. So two weeks ago. So he goes on stage. He says how he feels. He says free Palestine, free Sudan, free the Congo.

And he even says at one point to my Jewish brothers. and sisters. Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic. So that goes viral. Now, McLemore is saying that Robert Kraft and a group of other stadium owners basically shut the door on him. He claims that the owner told Ed Sheeran that he could not play at his venue if McClamor was involved and then made phone calls to other billionaires and stadium owners to get them on board. And Ed Shearin was handed an ultimatum, drop McLemmore or lose access to their stadiums. And that's just what McElmore is talking about on his post. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot in this post. The post is interesting. Yeah. At one point, McClmore says that Ed was basically trying to have a neutral stance. He said, I don't take sides. And then McElmore basically argued that there's no neutral position when it comes to what's happening in Gaza. Still, McClumor says that Ed was put in an effed-up position and insists he's not trying to tear down his longtime friend.

So he hopes that friendship survive. That's the part where like I'm not being ubers. Okay, Ed Sheeran is not the villain here. I'm not trying to make him the villain here. But I also can't treat him like he's some Johnny Come Lately Up and Coming artist. Ed Shearren's in stadiums for a reason. He's a gigantic, powerful artist. I think his net worth is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

So like the, I appreciate McLemore's sentiment of my friends in a bad spot and all that. But like, let's not act like the people who are in the positions that Ed Shearons in are not in like a CEO like position. He's running a huge business. And he made this decision to have McLemore on stage. And now he's according to McLemore having conversations with Robert Kraft. I'm not saying that's an easy situation. And like I said, he's not the one perpetrating the worst part here. But I also am not going to treat him with kid gloves like a baby at this stage.

You got to now you're in this, now you're in the conversation and you have decisions to make. And I don't think the choice that he made was the right choice. So you think Ed Sharon should have stood by McLemore and not done those stadium shows? I think he should have said, hey, if you want to get out of your contract with me for the tour based on my opener, then go through the legal process and let's start doing that. We'll figure it out. Because now we're going to have this conversation publicly. Yeah. But this would require standing up on business.

My point is, we're at a time more than ever where people with power can stand up on this business a little bit more. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like this isn't two years ago. That's what makes this whole thing so crazy is that the tide has turned somewhat. That's what makes Netanyahu such a failure even at what he wanted to be successful with.

He is the ultimate failure. He has turned Israel himself into this worldwide pariah. So the rich person isn't in the same. Listen, for someone sitting at this table, we're in a bit of a different situation. For Ed Shearin, who's sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars based on his own music, his own catalog, his own power. I think Ed Shearin, even though it's a tough position to be in, who's been a guy who supposedly has stood on issues before, it's a spot where he could have stood up and he chose not to. I don't hate him, but I'm not impressed by him either.

Yeah, because he was, he definitely stood up against, you know, Russia and was standing by Ukraine. So he was vocal about that. And other stuff, too. I mean, Ed Sharon's no, you know, he's a good. I think he's always had his moral compass from what I've known has been solid. So now to go, I don't want to take a side. Well, this is the times we're in, bro. People are taking aside on what's right and what's wrong.

You don't have to come out and say you hate the Israeli people. No one's asking for that. Are you going to stand by your friend for his right to utter words? Free speech, right? Well, so let's take it from the beginning. Ed Sheeran goes out on tour. He asks his friend, Macomore to open up. right that's what that's how this what we know so far and and and and and even getting to that part

and what has maclimore been known for for the last couple of years more than any other thing well and so that's why i say in some ways the the idea of macklemore saying ed shiren wants to be personally neutral he's already made a statement by having you open up that's a great point yeah right so i would think so right so it's probably not news to him that macklemore's stance is what it is If we know, I'm sure Ed Shearer knows, and I'm sure there was some vetting before he decided to have McLemore open. I think that's right. I would also say that people promoting the tour also knew what McLemore stood for.

I would think that's right as well. They also did not tell or did not try to censor McLemore and say, hey, when we do this tour, let's make sure that we don't have any conversation about what you've been having a conversation. about on your social media. Correct. Right? Like, we have to assume all of these people

knew who what... Well, unless McLemore, otherwise it would require that McLeod is being extremely disingenuous to not include that. Right. He would have to say,

they told me not to it. And I did it anyway. He did not say that. He didn't say that. I can't imagine he'd be that disingenuous. So while we can say, yes, Ed Sheeran himself as an artist,

hasn't been outwardly, you know, vocal about picking aside here, he clearly gave space to someone who is, his friend and who clearly is on free Palestine and holding the Israeli government to account for their actions against Palestinians. Correct. So far, so far you're on point.

So this is what we know today, okay? Then the heat comes down from billionaires. Robert Kraft, NFL owner, who privately owns the stadium, by the way. Oh, it's his own. It's his own stadium. That's crazy. And so were the other stadiums of the, I think it was two other shows. I think those are also privately owned stadiums.

Yeah. Right. So don't know what the, what the businesses of that, of that privately owned stadium saying, hey, you're not welcomed here. Even though we sold tickets and whatever, do they have a right to refuse service to anyone at any time sort of thing. and let's say Ed Sharon was like, you know what, sorry guys, can't do those shows, going to keep doing other shows. But remember, he's got business partners.

I don't know if it's Live Nation. I don't know who the other corporations involved that he's got a contract with. So if those individuals say, hey, yo, Ed, you can't miss these shows. We can't afford it. Ed says, oh, well, sue me. Your point about however much money he's worth right now comes in the conversation because now he's going to lose whatever those shows are. and whatever it's going to cost.

But you just took a made-up step. We don't know that that's what would have happened. But I'm sure. That he would have been sued for missing those dates. We don't know that. We don't know that. They could have said, all right, continue the rest of the tour. We'll cancel those dates.

Could have? Right. Because he could have said, listen, I want to continue to perform with McElmore. If you don't want me here, that's because you're not allowing me to. Yeah, I'm confused by what the law. I mean, I suppose there's a world in which the people putting on the tour would say, because we lose those dates, we now won't make money. But how could they sue him when everybody all,

agreed to this being what the tour was. And that's the part. He wants to perform. Right. I want to, I'm not choosing to cancel. I want to perform with the advertised touring. Yep. So I don't see where he could have been the one who's in the wrong.

Because ultimately couldn't he sue them? That's the interesting conversation. But it's a privately owned stadium. I think that's a key piece. But you're breaking contract. We agreed to a tour. Now you're saying because words were said, he's now, those are, and now there's a statement.

Basque and put it up briefly. The craft statement that was given by that was put out and said to be by Robert Kraft makes no sense whatsoever. It's it is a meandering are you calling this a word salad? It is a word salad. I mean violence against Palestinians terrible. We don't like that. I've given to groups to help Palestinian people but yeah but what you said was mean and it's wrong and I'd also really like to talk to you sometime. We could sit down and chat, but no, you're not doing the show here. Read it.

It's, it's, it's, I don't understand. You gave that whole word salad. You could have just called the man up and had the conversation you said you wanted to have. I think also once again, this is more indicative of, you know, many people not being in touch with where the greater public is at with this issue.

Totally agree. Because you've now made it louder. Yes. You've now made McLemore an outlaw. You've made it like for people who are like, yo, Jewish people run everything. They can cancel people. You made that louder. You've made a big mistake here.

A huge mistake. And remember, McElmore stood on stage and talked about ICE, calling it a terrorist organization. He talked about free Sudan, free the Congo. Talked about Cuba. Cuba. He talked about it, but this specifically, you mentioning Palestine is what got in mind. Is the line. Well, yeah, I mean, but I will say one other thing about that.

Because being truthful about all of it, all the other stuff he threw in wasn't add in. It was a statement. No, I know, but it was clear. We know what McClermore's causes. And by the way, it's a great cause to have. He gave the whole spiel about Gaza with imagery, et cetera. And then at the end said, abolish ICE. their terrorists, free Congo, free, I'm just saying he, the speech was about that. I don't want to

make it sound like he mentioned all these things. They heard this. No, they knew what it was about. And they're saying, we don't want you to say that. I'm just being clear on what it was. But what it was was was the right thing to be said. It's what he stands for. It's what he believes in. And it's what, frankly, it feels like most of the U.S. public believes. And now to your point, your create, your, you're you're now reinforcing this idea that there's an elite class who will literally make the phone call and say you're not allowed to say those things yeah because it happened and i i which by the way i'm gonna say it again it makes it louder it makes it history it makes it documented it makes it something people will never forget that happened it it it it it it once again and by the way this happens i see this with a lot of of issues in our society of today where we make so much noise about something that it becomes in vogue right because the power of the people is a real thing and most people aren't a part of your elite group and when they feel like they are being marginalized pushed to the side people have

most people relate to that and people that galvanizes people oh 100%. I saw a guy yesterday too and I thought this was really interesting, for me at least, as someone who's so into this issue. He mentioned it to me, a Jewish guy, he mentioned it very casually. And he mentioned it at first, like the tone of his voice was like, do you see what Robert Kraft did?

Like it was good. And I was like, yeah, I saw. I was like, I didn't like it. He was like, oh, really? Why? I'm like, you don't think, I didn't even, again, I don't even need to get into,

the nuts and bolts of the issue because I'm not doing that at work with a stranger or not a stranger but someone I don't know well I said you think that someone shouldn't be allowed to perform because they just said two words they said free Palestine they shouldn't be able to perform is that what you think and he was like

I swear to God and I'm not mocking him I'm just this is where a lot of people are there's a Jewish guy he goes I never really thought about that way yeah that's actually not very cool hmm he was like I don't really know much about this issue. And I was like, and you're not required to, just to be clear. He was like, I should know more. I went, no, you shouldn't. You're a Jewish American. In theory, you shouldn't have to know all about this issue. You should be able to just live your life here and be like everybody else. But this issue has now

become this other thing. And he really, it just spoke to how so many people have been led in this, on this issue by how they were taught their whole lives and they've never given it much more thought. And Netanyahu has successfully, in coming up on three years, turned Israel who was always seen publicly as the good guy, even when they weren't the good guy, has now turned them into the back.

You did the impossible, my dude. Like, you took Israel and made them way more of a worldwide villain than the U.S. is like it's unbelievable how bad you failed. Well, and I think it's, you know, you know, I hear, you know, yes. I think Netanyahu is a figurehead in this who, you know, has been working, at least as far as we've seen, trying to convince the U.S. government to get into a lot of the shenanigans that were currently seen.

Successful. I think since the 80s or something, right? Like since he was trying. He's been like lobbying for what's happening right now in the straight-of-hor moves and all of that. political shit with the with the oil and Iran and all that since then and the expansion of what people know is are calling greater Israel but there's also other factions even on the U.S. side that have been supportive of Netanyahu the entire time for sure and I only make this point because I think as we play this out people's brains will think you know because there's

a isn't there about to be an election in Israel yes people will think that when Netanyahu's gone like somehow this issue is now resolved like they'll try to like how about this This, my dad, my dad, you know where my dad is at? You wonder how far my dad is? My dad's rooting for Netanyahu to win. Doesn't want him to lose. Because if he loses, it's going to be the exact same thing, but they're going to get a pass for a year.

Right. He's like, if they give it to someone else, it would be like here if Rubio or Vance were to win. Right. But it's not Trump. Everything's back to normal. Right, right, right. It's not.

They're the same. It's the same. Or worse. It's more covert, not as overt. Because who. Whoever in Israel is out there that would be markedly different is not winning the election. Well, and there's tons of people, former prime ministers, politicians here in the United States, people who were quiet early on this issue, who as the midterms and elections come up in Israel, people are trying to pivot. it even where you see like the Tucker Carlson's and the Candace Owens trying to pivot away from

Trump you're seeing similarly in some of the you know you know outspoken individuals from Israel who are now coming out once this what was the article last week about about uh you a was it UAE warning them yeah warning Netanyahu and him not doing anything which everybody knew it wasn't that big a story but it was a big story but it was enough for people who had kind of sat on their hands during this whole thing. Yeah, yeah. To now come out and go, this is terrible.

You know, he's horrible for it, you know, like to turn on him and use it as an opportunity to springboard when it was like, bro, you wasn't, when you saw all of these children dying and like mass demolition in Gaza and people, 200 reporters and journalists have been killed. And blowing up like UNICEF trucks or whatever.

Like everything possible. Like you saw mad stuff and said nothing. But now that. An investigation was done, right? So people are going to use this in a way, I guess I wanted to point out. So while, yes, we could use Trump's name, we can use Netanyahu's name. I think we all should be aware that there was a lot of other individuals that either sat by to see where this would go, right? Or used it for their own, you know, financial or political gain until this moment.

Now they're going to pivot and try to rebrand. Yeah. But they're rebranding for themselves. Yes. They're not really changing much of their beliefs. whatsoever. I just hope because that conversation yesterday and others I've had have made me realize how many a lot of Jewish people have turned on this issue. For sure, I've seen it. But I've also seen a lot of people not turned. And I just, I think you have two factions of it. I think you have people who

October 7th broke their brain. I do think that happened, by the way. Like, like I always, I know I jokingly mentioned his name. I'm not trying to be. Happened to people for 9-11 too. It happened to 9-11 too. Like Rappaport's a great example. I think it broke it. Tragedy can do that to people. Yeah, it can trigger you with an anger that makes you rethink so many things from a lens that's like blood-filled and kind of crazy. But then I think you also have a lot of people who have just been taught one thing their whole lives, and they're really uncomfortable with hearing people be so anti-Israel. And I understand those people's feelings, and what I would just encourage them to think about is,

do you feel that same way when people talk about America? Because so many of us realize that America has not been what it was advertised on paper at so many different points in time. They've been a huge disappointment at so many points in time. We literally dropped two nukes in Japan. We've done horrible. We've done the worst, arguably the worst things that have been done. We're done by us. In modern history.

In modern history, at least, right? In Hiroshima Nagasaki. We did those things. So I would encourage people who are uncomfortable with the conversation to just realize like you don't need to be so protective of this thing when we have our own country that we're willing to be critical of. You're allowed to be critical of it and not feel like you're selling out your people. Like that's indoctrination that has like made it so deep into people's brains. They can't even. But you're also, I think, speaking from a different.

experiencing any of us sitting at the table too, right? Of course. Because your dad, you watched your dad and your mom go through this 10, 15 years ago before October 7th of this kind of- Well, it was a slow journey. But it was a decoupling nonetheless. For sure. And like my experience is definitely unlike theirs and happened over time. But on the other side, I was way further on the other side than they are. There's a, I don't think my dad's taking.

I'm shaking it down because he probably still just likes the art. There's a framed, gigantic poster of Theodore Herzl in my house. Yeah. The father of Zionism hangs in my home. My dad wrote a manifesto in the village voice about we need to, what black people are doing with the Black Panthers. That's what we as Jews need to be doing in Israel. F that. That's how far he was.

And then woke up and was like, oh my God, I'm on the wrong side of this thing. This is not what I thought. it was and then over a long period turn. So I have to have some level of grace and empathy for other people who in three years have not had the realization yet that it's not what it was quite advertised for them. Okay.

And then to understand like knowing you can still love cultural things about it and love people and all of this stuff. I'm not gonna tell you Tel Aviv's not an amazing city. No, of course you can have all of these things, but you have to understand that like fundamentally, this thing isn't what you thought it was. That's a tough, that's a tough thing for people.

Yeah. I mean, well, yeah. You know, look, it's not, hmm, it's, it's, it's new for individuals going through it, but it's not a new phenomenon. To have to really figure out, you know, how to, um,

realign your identity to things that are like more real than just like a flag. and a geography. Man, a lot of people are really into their flag and geography, though. But no, because it's tribal. It's really in our nature to like, I got a flag that represents where I'm from. I mean, we make fun of people from neighborhoods who are like so about their neighborhood that they're willing to die for it and they don't own anything in it, but they're willing to die for it because it's all they got.

And all the way up to you got everything. You got money, weapons, flag, support from the world, and you still botch it. And then we also have fun with it when it's really a happy fun thing, right? Like, oh, wave your flag, here we go, yay, Caribbean Day parade, whatever the thing is. That's right. But ultimately, man, that whole flag thing is super complicated. It's tricky because somebody can take advantage of you with it, right? Somebody can take your nationalism, take your traditions, and manipulate you.

because it you have such an affinity for it manipulate you into literally being okay mass murdering children but and that by the way that's not just now this no this is this is this is this is what is done in the name of nationalism that's right that's why i can't i just don't i don't have it well and i think many people you know like us who live in a country like the u.s that we all um which is a part of it should be but it's not for everybody it's not a part of every but it's not a part of everyone's culture to hold America accountable. No. In America.

No. Well, no. In the U.S. There are people who are just kind of like, listen, I support whatever. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, that's not really how it's worth. Or being critical is seen as anti-unpatriotic. That's a real combo where you're like, no, that's not how patriotism and love for something

works. You actually hold people and things that you love accountable to the things that they say they want to be. so that they can become the thing. That's why I've always made the sports comp. I think it's so like apt when people are like, if you're a hardcore Yankee fan, but you don't care that they have won the championship

since 2009 when Cashman said, like, we're going to win championships. And every year when they lose, if you were just like, hey, man, it's cool. We're the Yankees. Yay. I'd be like, you're a fan? Right.

No, a fan goes away. They said we win championships here. So we need to keep doing things to win championships. We, our championship goal is Land of the Free, home of the brave pursuit of happiness religious freedom freedom of speech those are our championship goals and we do not live up to those goals

I was going I was really I was willing to vocally be an anti-Dolan person on behalf of Nix fans for years I did it got on the airwaves trash and Dolan how dare you show up to MSG Nick's fans they're not putting good product on the floor

and they sell out they don't even have to give you good product. And what did the Knicks fan say to you? Shut up. We want to keep coming back for four. You're not a Knicks fan. Stay in your place. Although in that case. They tried to cancel. They tried to cancel me. But in this case, it worked out. They got the championship. They finally got the championship.

What did you say to Arizona? Nixon 5. Now, it's ill. The Nixon 5 thing is interesting. No, the way it. No. It was originally Nixon 4? I don't I don't know what it was originally, but a new season's about to start. It's going to be Nixon 5 all year.

Is it still Nixon 5 through the new season? It's never stopped. Until it's not, though. Until it's not. Until it's not. Nixon 5 until it's not. By the way, when they get to the playoffs, they may root for them to win series in 5 rather than 4 just so they can say Nixon 5 again.

That's how much they're going to be on it. Speaking of the Knicks, I saw Mariska Hargatee hosted the Emmys last night. She's like a nickname. Yeah. Your girl. Your girl. She loves Jalen Bruncett. Debrose.

She is hardcore. Did you watch the Emmys, did you? I did not. And there was a whole sketch. I didn't see it. They did a whole SVU sketch with Taylor Swift. I got to see it. In the sketch.

But I bring this up too because while we're talking about something is as big and important as geopolitics in Israel and the U.S. The point I'm trying to make is people do crazyish for much small. smaller things. We saw people running for their lives because they had a wrong jersey on during the playoffs or during sports games. We see that all the time. That's how tribal people are. That's how much it's in people's nature. People running for their lives because they have a different team's jersey on. No, it's amazing we survive day to day, bro. No, that part I really am with you on. And I would be remiss to not at least mention it. I understand this argument. People

keep showing the old Maclemore video from 2014, 15 of him wearing the juice gnaws and the I have to tell you, I remember that whole thing happening. I don't remember what his excuse is. It's an insane looking video. When we talked to him, I talked to him yesterday too, he does want to come on the show. At some point I had to ask him what he was thinking when he wore that again. But I do know this. We've all known him since he came out.

Like, he's the same love guy. He was the guy who was like, yo, I'm blow him. up in hip hop. You know what I'm gonna do? Make myself a gay marriage anthem. And then get like 40 gay couples married at the VMAs or the Grammys or whatever it was. He has been, again, I don't know what he was thinking when he dressed up in that outfit.

I cannot imagine he was going, I'm gonna go out and make fun of the Jews today. Like, I know a lot of people don't understand how the hip hop world works. You can't really be an underground emcee like MacLmore who's successfully been built and built and built without having so many different Jewish relationships

in our industry and he's been nothing but a cool, loving guy the whole time I've known him. So you have to understand that. I realize though the people on the outside don't know that part. They just see names get like thrown around. They don't know who Macklemore has been. To us who know him.

When they were met, you saying same love, somebody right now was like, oh yeah. They forgot. Completely forgot. It wasn't that important to him. And he's into thrifting, which is in some ways of Jewish quality as well. Oh my God. Being thrifty.

Let's just be honest. All right. In other news, Boosy sat down with 60 minutes for an investigation. No, that's great. I love this. I love this. Pardon brokers, okay?

These are political operatives who charge a lot of money, and they claim that they can get cases in front of President Trump. So Boosie says that he handed Jack Berkman and Jacob Wall $600,000 up front, and they led him to believe that he would get this pardon, but nothing happened. Oh, man. So he says right now he's trying to claw back like $300,000 because their deal was that, you know, he gets half of the money if the pardon falls through. And he's not getting anything back right now. Here's a clip of Boosie.

Burtman and Wohl made a similar pitch to Boosie Badass. A rapper with a lengthy criminal record after he was convicted on a gun charge. This is what I was led to believe. If you come with this money, you will get a part. How much did you give them up front? 600K. Yeah. We have some texts that they sent to your lawyer.

This text listed the influential people they supposedly recruited. Laura Lumer. Erica Kirk. Mike Johnson, he's the Speaker of the House. Another text, the broker mentions Natalie Harp. She's the executive assistant that's very close to the president and suggests that she's going to personally hand your application to the president. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought, I mean, this is the way it's done. I'm paying these guys, you know, and they're going to make it happen.

They didn't make it happen. Boozy didn't get his party. As for the four people they claim to know, they denied any involvement in the case. Boosie's contract with the brokers stipulated that if he wasn't pardoned, he'd get half his money back. But they won't pay, claiming the contract is invalid, and denying they sent the text. The rapper is suing. I say, just returning, you didn't get my pardon.

It's a bunch of BS. And they were so cocky. Yo, Bootsi, Bootsu using his correct grammar. I like to see it. Nice little code switch up there for, you know what I mean, for 60 minutes. But. By the way, I didn't know 60 minutes was still allowed to run stories like this. Same.

I was surprised. Watch, something's going to come from this, too. 60 minutes about to be canceled this week. I'm sorry, I didn't think that. Leslie Stalls out. I didn't think Homegirl was allowing this who's running. Barry Weiss. Barry Weiss.

I think Barry Weiss was down with stories like this. I mean, you know, look. Hit the, no, it's not a button for Busy, right? No, it is. It's not. You plagued yourself. It's not. It is.

Why? Because you sent someone $600,000 to get pardon, and now you're like, hey, can I get my money back? That's the definitions of congrats. Well, not if there are, but that's why this is like not, like, this isn't like a street thing. There was a contract. Yeah, but this is. In his mind, I'm doing business.

This is how business is done. Now, you know what I'm saying? Like, do you forget how congrats works? You know how many congrats we've given that are less justified. than this. No, I had moved on from that. I was kind of more thinking like he honest, like I saw people talking about, oh, he's snitching on. No, he was doing business. No, yeah, no. Yeah, he just thought he was, does how you get out. Oh, this is what rich people do. This is what the white people went doing is how y'all do it. I do it too. And it's mine. Yeah, I don't,

by the way, I don't think that the logic was flawed. That is how things have seemed to be. Yeah. I'm happy for him. I think it's a great look for him. Even though it didn't work out. Well, I think there's still some, I think, a, opportunity for it to work out. I don't think it's just like a dead in the, it's not a dead in the water thing. He can still sue these guys. He could go for other things. He is, right? He's still going.

He's not done. He's going to spend more money, though. Right. Now you've got to spend more and hope you win. Yeah, that part of it. Although he can be. The button is there. It's a button either way.

But he could also find lawyers who are like, hey, we think we can get money. We'll work for free to just get you the money and get our money there. Look, we may not get our money. Well, facts. No, that's real facts. And by the way, I wouldn't hesitate to give us the button either. No, the word is, is like, we're suing people right now. They owe us money.

No, no, I'm not suing anyone right now. And neither are you. What are we doing? Not that. Well, people owe us some money. There you go, I'm sure. But we're not suing anyone. We're not?

No. You're in an illegal... Dispute? Dispute? There's a legal dispute going on, but we are not suing anyone now. I was told it was public they might be going bankrupt. You were told that publicly? I was told it's leaking out public that they might be going bankrupt.

It wouldn't surprise me. I just hope they make it till the end of the year. Yeah, I don't see the advantage of time. Listen, I already risked a lot with our first conversation today. Now we got to go directly to this. What are we doing? So in other news. Wait, why did you risk somebody?

You didn't risk anything? Did you? Today? Yeah. So far? You think? Talking about McElmore? Bro.

It's treacherous like that, right? No, the tide has switched. I'm in more danger than people who are not Jewish, in my opinion. I think I'm in the riskiest spot. At this point, I believe so. I believe there's a harder, I think the eye is being kept more on who's saying it, who shouldn't be saying it. Yes. Wow.

I could see that. Because think about it. Everybody who's not is saying it at this point. You know what I'm saying? So who is standing strong and who is not? So yeah, I feel, I definitely feel, you know, I definitely, I definitely had, I put up a post yesterday that I thought was extremely safe in the way I described it, which is, wait, so, so Kanye can still do shows after making Heil Hitler, but Macklemore can't after saying free Palestine. We're more, are we more offended by free Palestine than Heil Hitler? That was sort of the theme of my post.

Granted, the situations are very different, but I'm. And there have been some places where Kanye can't. Correct. I don't think he's playing it. Gillette Stadium, for example. But still, I was just trying to put a comp on the things being said and what are we really focused on as people. And you got bad feedback?

No, I mean, no, but I think that, you know. Look, I do agree with you. I think there are people who want the conversation to go away. And I definitely think that these things, especially like a Macklemore conversation, keep us distracted at the midterms. How many distractions can they throw our way so we are not talking about getting out to vote.

Yeah, yeah. Like I do think that that's part of it too, where it's just kind of like, yo, can we get these people focused on something else? I think that's a constant effort. Yeah, I think you're right. Jasmine Crockett has been trending lately and is getting a lot of backlash.

She recently honored Chris Brown and Usher with a congressional record recognizing with a congressional recognition from the U.S. House of Representatives recognizing their artistry and influence, right? This all happened during the R&B tour, during their stop in Texas, and she is now facing backlash for going up on stage and doing this. You know, they're bringing up Chris Brown's legal issues over the years. A lot of fans are still bringing up, you know, the felony assault against Rihanna. So she's been getting a lot of heat for honoring Chris Brown.

But it was Chris Brown and Usher. Yes, it's both. So the fact that Chris Brown was just a part of it is the backlash. It's not so much about Usher. Correct. I just, I mean, you know, people are kind of like, hey, you know, I'm making this up. My feeling when I saw it was,

we can't get you to support Tala Rico, but we got you to support Chris Brown. I'm not, a lot of people are just not feeling the Jasmine Crockett thing recently with her inability to just like suck it up and support Tala Rico. Did she eventually endorse him, though? No? She didn't endorse Salarigo? I thought eventually she did.

Maybe. Either way, what resonated after months of hemming and hawing and of, ah, there are other candidates. I'm worried about so many other candidates. Like, she did not do the thing that you're supposed to do, which is line up and say, we just need people to win here. That was the part that rub people the wrong. Like, are you about the cause or are you butt hurt

because you lost? And that people ended up. Yeah, I saw that headline. I wasn't sure what was really. what was not. All I know is I've watched clips of her and I've seen her be directly asked, will you support Tolar Rico? And I just saw like, things are complicated, lots of people.

And it doesn't. That's not what you want. No. Louis? What she basically goes at is black people aren't excited about Tala Rico. So she said that a couple times and people are sticking to that. And then she's just like, I'm just going to support the lower ballot races. is Tyler Rico got it.

Like, it's just, that's her attitude. Got it. So she hasn't been a full force support of Tala Rico to try to flip Texas. But that aside, you know, I thought this was fake outrage. I mean, people get plaques from cities and congressional things all the time. Yeah, yeah, for sure. There's been tons of people who have quote unquote criminal records. What are we even talking about?

Yeah, it's not a word relative to what's going on. This is not a conversation. Although Chris Brown is always going to do this. It's never, he's never escaping. There will never be a completely Chris Brown moment ever in history. I just want everyone to know, if you're waiting for the day where they honor Chris Brown and no one says a word, wait because it's never happened. Or maybe you should say don't hold your breath. No, no, or hold your breath if you want.

I want to see it. And I'm not saying this like proudly or like I'm happy for it. I'm just saying I've been watching this for 20 years. That picture is never being forgotten. It's never being forgotten. I don't even know if it's so much to picture as much as it's the series of things that. Nah, a lot of people don't even know the series of things, though. They remember that photo.

It'll be the same as Ray Rice, man. Well, not I'm saying in the comments, it's generally people who are like, yo, the Rihanna thing was a long time ago. Forget about it. And people will immediately go to, yeah, but he harassed this when he did this thing. Like there are people who keep that going on the internet is all I'm saying. Yeah, for sure. Other than just the Rihanna incident.

But the reason on a mainstream level, for example, it would just be from the Rihanna thing, I believe. Like if the Grammys one day would be like, hey, we should honor Chris Brown. He's done X amount of things. It's true, but I honestly think people really just look at feedback. They look at comments. And we live in a world now where the highest echelon of decision making is decided by like what the algorithm said. And they can all be bots and they'll still go with the whole thing. Like, you know what I mean?

It's not like they're really, people are really like, no. that Rihanna incident was a long time ago. You know what I mean? They're not. How old was he? 18? I'm just giving you my opinion that it, because of that specifically, when there's an image to go with the bad moment, it haunts in a way that's totally different.

You're not wrong. You're not wrong. And I'm also not right. I'm not trying to say like, I'm glad for that. I believe people deserve second chances, even though it's a reprehensible, horrible thing that happened. I'm just telling you, every time he comes up, there's a thing. It never goes away.

Some people get the pass. I don't know. I'm trying to think. Is there someone who we know there's proof that they physically assaulted a woman, like proof of it, and they are scot-free and people praise them and no one. Dr. Drey.

Oh. Dr. Dre. The president of the United States. President of the United States. I don't think that's not true, though. What, that he was? We don't have that. We don't have the physical proof.

That he physically assaulted a. Oh, The physical proof. The physical proof. It's on recording, but he says he grabbed them by the hoochie. Yes, again. Yeah, but it's not. By the way, don't even bring up Trump.

We're bringing up real people who you could actually talk about. Not someone who people are in a transfer and they're like, he does nothing. But like, in terms of like. But yeah, we don't like. I mean, these are important people. It's not a bad thing to point out that the president of the United States has a bunch of allegations and some convictions and da-da-da-da-da. And we're mad because Chris Brown got a plaque on stage.

You know what I'm saying? That's a valid valid. Well, that's the original point. Right. What are we talking? What are we even talking about? That's the rundown. Thank you, Laura Stouse.

Laura Stows. Man, I was a mess during the Emmys last night when they gave Michael J. Fox the Bob Hope Humanitarian Award. Oh, man, that joint tore me up, bro. Came out in a wheelchair. Gave his good speech. And, like, Parkinson's is such a fascinating and terrible illness. Like, there are some people who it hits really hard. really fast and then we lose them from something.

Like they'll, you know, they'll get another illness and pass away very quickly, whatever. Michael J. Fox has had known of having Parkinson's for like 35 years or something like that. 30 years. Does he have access to treatments that most people don't have access to?

That's what I was thinking of too. It's the people who are... Is it a financial thing? No, I mean, I'm talking about they're well-to-do people also who we lost very quickly. It's not a terminal illness in that way, I don't believe,

but it can make you susceptible to other things. But just him coming out, like I've seen him many times, but, you know, when they played the video package beforehand and you see him, and then he comes out in the wheelchair.

Right. It's just such a stark thing. But then he gives his speech and he's still very much Michael J. Fox. I mean, you see him fighting through it the whole time. But, bro, it's crazy. He's fought for the last, he started the Michael J. Fox Foundation like 2000.

And I think they said he's raised like $30 million. and from like tireless work to try to get Parkinson's its proper money. And like Natalie was sitting there and pointed out like $30 million is a lot of money. It's a lot of money. But like the Trump people have all made hundreds of millions just since they got into office. Billions. And in Trump's case, billions. And Michael J. Fox has become the poster child for Parkinson's.

Huge celebrity. As beloved an actor in his heyday, like you saw the room yesterday. He's beloved by every A-list person. Michael J. Fox. Yeah, of course. It's Martin McFly for God's saying. Of course. That's Teen Wolf.

That's Teen Wolf. That is Alex P. Keaton. And he's fought for his life to get $30 million for research. There was a- Trump and his family will manipulate the market today. Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. They'll jump on a polymarket hustle today.

And then God knows how many programs were cut. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, the people, where there are people who are trying to raise money for illnesses or do research. That's related, yep. It's going to be a tough, yo, listening to you be concerned about us having to Macklemore conversation a second ago. Thinking about the fact that Jimmy Kimmel had to take his Tala Rico interview to YouTube and went on television. No, and Colbert had his send off last night at the Emmys. He's done. Kimmel's can be done.

So the mid, and the midterms are a few weeks away. Six, seven, eight, eight weeks, whatever. Um, it's gonna be a crazy end of the year. Yo, diesel gas is like six bucks. Yeah, so that's not a price you won't. You know those big trucks y'all see on the road that deliver like groceries and stuff from ports and things like that. You know what they need? Diesel. Diesel fuel.

That go, if that's up, everything in the truck is up. Everything. And who's paying for that, you think? Us. Oh. Yeah, on a more positive note, you know what we did in play guys? The mayor celebrating Rosh Hashanah. That's the one video we didn't get to see.

Oh yeah, it's a great video. It was, I thought it was a sweet video. Yeah, it's awesome. I posted it? Yeah. I have a question for everybody here. How do we celebrate Rosh Hashanah? The apple and the honey?

Yeah, and you wish for Happy New Year or something like that? Okay. And what do you say to wish someone? Sanatova. Because Rosh Hashanah is a happy new year. Sanahovah, wish you passed. I wish these apples then have skin on them. Yeah.

Next year we're going to do that. What would make a sweet new year for you? A jet pack. A jet pack? How about for you? Mishia? How about for you? Family.

Family? I think for me a sweet new year would be if the Knicks went back to back and if every New Yorker loved life in our city. And Arsenal winning the championship, you're right? Give me that. You're so right. Okay, here we go. Shanatova! Yes.

Bye guys. Yo, how can you not love this guy? What a sweet video. How can you not love this guy? I mean, who's better? I'm telling you, who's better than this guy? Well, who's better? Well, what's really super funny is,

so you watch that, and there are people who don't love him or think that that's like... No, hate him. Hate him. By the way, in which case, give him the Oscar now. If he's, like, actually evil and hates those kids, like, he's disgusted by Jews. That level of acting is, I mean...

Give him the lifetime achievement. All the Emmys, all the officers. And all of them to be like, he's got these little Jewish kids crawling all over him for God's sake. And he's like, get me out of here. Wash my hands. Like, are you out of your mind? Well, no, but I had a thought even going to because McLemore is a big topic, okay?

And so someone thought it was a good idea to make that louder than it already was by getting him off the door. Right? Somebody said, this is what we need to do. Yeah, crafting his people. We need to show strength here and we need to. This will be good. This is what we need to do.

We need to show force, right? Power. Are those just the same people that thought was a good idea to attack Ms. Rachel too? Oh, my God. I would imagine yes. Yes. Yes. Y, you guys are really botching this.

No, I think when a... Whoever you are, I think it's a good idea to attack Miss Rachel. Keep attacking Mom Donnie. and if you guys are all a part of the same network of it's not going great you are not land who do you want to go for next who who no fam it's like the people at the new york post when I see them the reach to try to twist things

it's the most ridiculous thing the whole aOC mom donnie are laughing at they put up the headline right away like last laugh or I forget what the headline was about them about them laughing at the nine 11 thing and then the whole video came out and in the whole video they greet each other for four seconds there's a quick smile and then they both turn and solemnly start looking again it would be like if you bumped into someone in a funeral and you're like hey you're like hey we're

and they spun it into what they were laughing at 9-11 they were laughing at that mom donnie and a o'c were laughing at 9-11 yes we were laughing at because they were reading the name laughing at the name and who and the post put this out as like a main story yes yes yes yes That's what I'm saying. A lot of people. It wasn't just down. Wait, what? It was beyond the New York Post.

A lot of stuff. That was a big headline. We told you this yesterday, bro. I didn't get it. I didn't get it. And then Giuliani's own team. Yeah. Put out the full video and was like, nah, there's too much division.

This is crazy. AOC and Mondani did nothing wrong. And they put out the video themselves. Congratulations. And I'm a lifelong Republican. But this is crazy. You're not going to make it look like they were laughing at people. That's ridiculous.

A Giuliani person. had to do that. Uh-huh. By the way, these are crazy these people are. I saw, I saw Sid Rosenberg comment somewhere, and don't ask me why,

but I saw him comment somewhere that he was disgusted with Giuliani for shaking Mondani's hand. Congratulations. Didn't mention being disgusted for what came out in the 9-11 reports. So none of the documents were Giuliani and other officials

in New York City were aware of the dangers post-9-11 where another... 9,000 people have been killed. Was it another nine? Yeah, 9500 have been killed since 9-11. But at 9-11, 2,500. Yeah, no, this is, I'm talking about post-September 11th.

Over 9,000 people have died because of illnesses. And so there are documents that Mom Dani released that city officials were aware of the level of asbestos around everything and everywhere and how dangerous it was. Yeah. That didn't make him. Nobody, that's not disgusting. That happened. shaking Mom Dani's hand and saying you're doing a good job. That was disgusting.

After he was part of the group. Congratulations, you played yourself. Giuliani is. You guys aren't really, you guys. No, Giuliani, though, actually belongs in this conversation. Because he is sort of like the pro-Israel crowd in terms of botching your entire reputation. Just like continuing to back, I think I could look worse. How could I make myself look worse and worse and worse and worse?

You know, Giuliani was America's mayor. They loved him. Everyone. Like, even people who hated him prior were like, hey, man, 9-11 happened. We got to show love to Giuliani. And he has steadily, for 25 years now, just made himself less and less appealing. It's pretty remarkable. It's impressive almost.

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I did. I did. Are we ready for the guru? If you want to do it. Oh, oh wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Our girl Ebony McMorris is here. Oh, she got a new spot on the, look.

Look at her new spot. No, we were, the EL Army was worried they're trying to make her apart cars. Wait, hold up, hold up. Y'all got to stop clowning me. No, we're not. We got a new spot. Wait, what driveway is that? What do you mean?

We're still on Pebble Beach, but I just moved. So I am, this is where I was all way over here. Oh, God, okay, okay, okay, okay. Now we're getting closer to the front door. There you go. I know, that's right. Yeah, that means you must be getting some good looks on this ELR program and all the other programs.

This is Ebony McMorris, our White House correspondent. How are you doing today, Ebony? And what's going on down there in D.C. today? What are the big plans for the day? Man, let me tell you why I'm so happy because I heard the conversation earlier. And we got another win. There is another one because last night, the Supreme Court refused to let this administration force through new mail-in ballot rules before the midterms.

Y'all, we're less than 50 days away from the midterms, right? And it's getting crazy. It's ratcheting up. A lower court had already blocked those rules. The Supreme Court just agreed to block them through November. Now, you know, of course, that doesn't mean it's going to stop. The administration always continues to push. In fact, a whistleblower investigation, there was a news conference held with Schumer and Padilla,

and he said, when the president cannot go through the front door, he always goes to the back door. So we are seeing some backdoor moves by this administration. but this comes out of the president back in March trying to sign an executive order directing the Postal Service to create a new system for handling mail and ballots. And I felt like we've talked about this before, but it's because this administration has kept pushing and pushing, even though lower courts keep blocking this administration. And the Supreme Court made a decision last night. But it was a clear party line vote. But Justice Kavanaugh, who was Trump appointed, wrote separately. He said that he actually thinks that the Postal Service.

might have the legal authority to create a rule like this in the general election. So we're not going to see this in November. However, in the general election, we can see this pop back up again. It's almost like he's telling the Postal Service, you know, there is something we may be able to do here, but not right now. Because so many things have already sent out their mail imbalance. This would have caused like complete havoc across the United States. And they wouldn't have been able to control that.

So, So Ebony, take the win. So Ebony, is this the last we will hear of this before we start voting? Early voting is about to start in some places in the next couple of weeks? On this, yeah, but there's so many other things that are happening. And so that's what I wanted to pivot to a whistleblower case that just came out. So what is happening is a federal employee inside the U.S. citizens and immigration services came forward with allegations about how the Trump administration is hunting for so-called illegal voters.

We know about this, right? And that's where we saw Senator Chuck Schumer and Alex Bia hold this new conference, news conference about it yesterday, demanding that the agency shut this program down. And so the whistleblowers account went to the Democracy Defenders Fund, and that's a legal group, and they sent a formal disclosure. And so here's, this is how ridiculous this is, because I had to keep reading it to break it down and see what it was. What they had was officers were told to log into state voter registration websites, pretend to be the actual voter, using information pulled from Homeland Security's internal data. Then they would enter that real person's name, date of birth, sometimes social security, and then check a box falsely certifying saying that this is my own information or I am authorized by this voter to access it. And then so the lie is pretending to be someone, of course, to unlock their private voting data.

And so in states like Virginia and others, that is computer fraud. Then once inside the person's file, officers cross-checked against the agency. DHS's own citizenship records to determine whether the person became a citizen before or after they registered to vote. You can see where this line is going. This is about trying to get people kicked off voter rolls. And they have a quota for this. They wanted the officers to do about 40 or 50 of these a day. So they literally took their staff and they put them on this illegal operation.

And so they held a news conference yesterday calling DHS out, demanding accountability on this issue. This is just the beginning. So yes, we got again. The weaponization of DHS, right? That's ICE. That's this activity you're talking about. There's a lot of criminal activity that this administration has used. use DHS to conduct against, you know, citizens or people who are here on visas or whatever

they're here for to try to make it uncomfortable for people. Like, this is, this is on brand. Like, this isn't really, I mean, yes, there's a whistleblower. I think that's great. But like, how many different instances are we going to have with this administration breaking laws and what's the actual fallout other than us just getting to the midterms? Clearly, there. They're afraid of what's going to happen at the midterms. Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing this behavior. But there's no accountability legally. There has been no enforcement of laws here.

It doesn't seem. Well, so what's going to happen? First, we know there are more tactics coming. You're going to see ICE at the polls. You're going to see even more ways that this president is going to try to steal this vote. Because they know, like you said, if Democrats were able to even get the House, That means investigations coming left, right, north, south, and east and west. And they're going to have to answer these questions.

I am glad the Supreme Court made this decision. But we've also, this is also a court who many times has backed the president. They didn't do it this time. This would have just caused massive chaos, right? And so they didn't want to see that coming. But who knows what will open the door for the general election? But that's why it is important. I heard you earlier talking about don't get distracted.

because many people may not know about this investigation or this whistleblower that just came forward to let you know what's happening in your own backyard or to stay on guard. That is why you must vote early. You must vote early. I know we always talk about election day. You've got to vote early. It's important. I've also started to see, and Ebony, I don't know if this conversation has made it your way.

I've started to see conversations about the two Supreme Court justices that are very, very old. and if at these midterms we don't get some gain some ground in the house or in the Senate, there's a real possibility that Donald Trump will get to pick two more Supreme Court justices. No, are you serious? That's Clarence Thomas and is it Justice Alito? Alito, right. Thomas and Alito who in fact on the earlier case I was talking about, though the two justices that said, oh, no, go ahead.

Let them let them do it anyway. Let the USPS go ahead and basically steal voter data and bring up people from voting. So yes. But we've been talking about this even before Trump got in office. Don't forget when RBG didn't stand down and what happened with that. Why we have the such right-leaning court, conservative court that we have right now. And so, yes, it would be smart for him if he did that because, of course, he wants to keep this movement this ultra-right conservative movement going.

And so there has been talk. I've heard this well before that he may replace them because they are, they are aging. That's why there's also been a conversation. People when Biden was in office was talking about expanding the courts, I really think we do need a complete overhaul of the Supreme Court. Whether we will see that remains to be seen. I seriously doubt that. But that also has to come through Congress.

It's not, that is what they're going to do because of the Republicans, are always better at doing that kind of stuff than the Democrats are. It kind of typifies the whole thing, doesn't it? Yeah, and just to remind people, vote.org, there's so many websites that are popping up, stealing your information, claiming they're doing one thing or another. Where's your man, Elon?

Your man, Elon out here pumping. Yo, listen, they spend a lot of money to mess with voting. It would almost seem like voting's not that important. Right? Yeah. It's crazy how much money and effort they put into making voting hard, right? Yeah, it is.

we were right that this mailing thing was everything for them it's so important and it's crazy how much they they're obsessed with things like when I was at the beach a few weeks ago they have the big flag that says trump won I'm like why do you feel the need when people win you don't need to declare they won all the the time well no you do if just like it's you do it's kind of like confederate statues and confederate flags right because right like it's over we're we're into whatever it is and now you want to keep reminding people because you like trolling people you know know it causes harm. See, I thought of it more of your other thing of that every accusation is an admission.

Oh, right. So when they're like, Trump won, it's like, really? I kind of thought he did. Maybe he didn't. Maybe he didn't. And you know he might not. Yeah, because he might not. Ebony, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Hey, Ebony, real quick before we let you go, I know you're out there with the Congressional Black Caucus celebrating 50 years, too. And I know that, look, there's a, on social media, there's a lot of critique of what the Congressional Black Caucus is and is not doing. Are you a part of any of these conversations or what's the celebration like? So let me tell you something.

We're talking about 50 years. This caucus started in 7113. The Congressional Blacklist Foundation started 71-13 founding members. One of those members was Shirley Chisholm, right? Y'all in New York, yeah, big up to Shirley Chism. And so here's, I've been thinking about that a lot because this is the largest legislative event. happens in the country. And so people criticize it. But then let me tell you something. There are so many thought leaders, legislative leaders, community activists, people on the ground that come here

to talk to have conversations, to exchange ideas. So I'm never going to belittle that. And these are members who have been a part of our community and done a lot for our people. Let me tell you something. This administration wouldn't be able to do what they do if it had not been for, or the pushback from congressional black caucus. So I know there are issues that we have, I have period with Democrats and Republicans, period. But I'm not going to take this institution, this caucus that this administration does not want to exist.

Don't forget Nancy Maythe, even though she's on her way out, has tried to put forth some type of legislation to dismantle any type of caucus that has race based upon it because. Absolutely because she, they know how powerful it can be. So I need people to dig in the craze before. they start doing that. But before I go out, these two thoughts keep living rent free in my mind.

And that is Shirley Chisholm, who we know, talked about bringing a chair to the table. And that was talking about access right now and representation. Right now, because of this administration's plan to try to redistrict, we stand to lose the chairwoman said the president Yvette Brown, I'm sorry, Yvette Clark, saying we can lose a third, a third of the Congressional Black Caucus because of what this administration is doing. So if you don't think that means anything, then I think you need to go back and do a little bit of research. But the second thought that lives in my head is a quote by the lovely actress, Anjeney Ellis, who said, I don't want the chair, I don't want the table, I want the structure that it's built on. So one was talking about access,

the other one is talking about ownership. The question is, how can we meld that in this time? Your vote gives you access and representation. Do not lose it. But also, how do we talk about ownership, just like Anjanao says. She said, and the reason is because this is an administration who's not just trying to take you away from the table, take your chair from you like they tried to do with Obama and said, you don't belong here, but they're trying to switch up the room, period. And I see that with mail-in voting. Ah, it was about your vote, but now we want to change the whole structure. And we've got to figure out how to weigh that balance. So I'll be talking with members as they come through CBC about that.

I'm going to talk about data centers. I'm going to talk about AI, what they're doing. Because most of the time, people really just don't know. We have our lives. We seek the rights. We don't know. So when we speak to you next week, you'll give us a little insight on what actually these Black Caucus members are prioritizing and discussing.

Absolutely. Thank you very much. Ebony. Thanks, Ebony. Thank you, Evan. Down at the White House. Thank you so much. Are we out of here?

Yeah, we got to wrap a couple things. Super Chat. Shout out to Danny from the stop. Oh, Danny. Throwing us some money. Thanks, man. Throwing at us. Did he say anything? He just said Super Chat the gang, man. And then Dubduce 44 said

from the Tampa Bay Times, yay contract says, can't cancel based upon artist identity, prior past, public statements, public perception, political viewpoints, or the anticipated actual content of the performance. That's what Kanye's contract says.

Yes. Or to perform in the, at least at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa Bay. Got it. We didn't get to ask Ebony if she saw Remote Control Mitch come buzzing by. Oh, we did not. You're going to remote control Mitch. I like this. We didn't get to see if he.

So the video you guys sent yesterday, I didn't actually watch it. I saw it saw cracking jokes about Weekend at Bernie's in the chat. What did it actually look like? What did you see? We'll play it tomorrow. No, it didn't look great. It looked like a guy who's not got a lot going on still, but they're keeping them. So you're in a wheelchair or he's walking?

Wheelchair. Wheelchair, he hit one wave. I mean, listen. The arm came up, it looked like it came up by itself or was pulled by a string. But if this is the part people won't want to hear, could we just be real that even prior to this, Mitch wasn't exactly the most expressive, agile guy to start.

I saw him before. He always was like this. No, he hit the mannequin challenge a few times. He lived the mannequin challenge. Oh, God. Froze. All right, see you tomorrow. Your man, Mitch was working on.

Dial-up, you have that dial-up connection. Don't call.