The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 21.) Ebro Vs. Rosenberg + Yahya Abdul-Mateen II From Marvel's "Wonder Man" (1/23/26)

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

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Just don't call in a podcast. Oh, Ebro-Laura Rosenberg show, Rosenberg. Where's our intro music? Oh, man. I've been enjoying this all week. You could change the whole vibe of the show, if I'm being honest with you.

Hey. You know it's Friday Freedom. We have your emails and voice notes. We have the rundown with Laura Stiles. No, we don't. No, we don't. not doing it. No, it's family matters. That's what we do on Friday.

Oh, family matters Friday. Yes. Yeah. And then we have Yahya Abdul Mateen the second. Representing Disney Plus and Wonder Man coming on at the end of the show. We taped a combo with him that you guys are going to get. No, I'm going to say this real quick.

All right. I didn't know his name. I was unfamiliar. I have not seen the movies. Okay. Okay. So when the name popped up on the thing, I was like, all right, here we go. Ebro's got some interview. I don't know who this is. I don't know what this is.

What's going on. And let me just say that guy was interesting, smart, great convo. You're going to like- With the button for doubting me. Nah, I'm one of the doubters. You're one of the doubters. I saw I'm right sometimes. Congratulations.

You played yourself. You're one of the people I was screaming at on Patreon. No. You just, you've just now put yourself in that category. No. Of thinking that somehow I got to this point in my career by making bad decisions. Meanwhile, meanwhile. Yeah, go for it.

Meanwhile, how many podcasts you got that nobody listens to? How many pieces of content you make on a daily basis nobody's checking for? How many interviews you do with Randos that never do anything? Huh? None. I do not do interviews with Randos, nobody knows. Underground, underground rap. Yeah, exactly.

Why are you doing this? Why? You stop it. No, Ebro likes to interview politicians and ramble on about God knows what for 20 minutes. No one gives you. shit and they give 12 views and they're boring and interesting. And guess who I had to call yesterday? One who's actually interesting. Yeah, which you didn't want to interview when we

first got to having them on. Making that up. Making that up. You made that up. I'm doing that. You're being defensive. You didn't want to support him. You're I'm actually only talking about like five of the many political interviews Ebro's done. He makes it sounds like Laura and I aren't into any of. I got to think back. You might hate it on 80 AOC when Laura suggested it. No, I missed it. I wasn't there. Yeah, I don't think he was. And by the way, you missed Bernie Sanders, too.

I was looking back at 2016. Yeah, he wasn't there either. It was WrestleMania weekend. Yeah. Priorities in order. All right. It's Friday free. That's what.

Bernie lost and I've been making money ever since that I wouldn't have now because we got fired had I not been at WrestleMania. So I think I nailed it if I'm going to be honest with you. And really, I'm just talking about if Ebro gets us on the line with that goddamn one from the MTA, who doesn't say one interesting thing again. I need to talk to that lady. Well, talk to about your stuff.

I need to talk to us. She doesn't say shit. She feels like literally. I need to know. I need to know what's happening with the, what is it called? I got to agree with Rosamberg on this one. She says the same thing over and over. Nonsense.

We've only, by the way, we've only talked to her twice. Twice? You know how many great people we haven't talked to twice? Then we've been like, once was enough. Well, I want to know what's going on with congestion practice. Well, then talk to someone who might actually give you a real answer, not a propagandist who feeds us their lines. It's horse shit. You're not going to get a real answer from the MTA either.

No, no. We got to find some sort of. of real person who could give us information. She's the one that wrote the policy, bro. And congestion is back, okay? But the fact that she's the one that wrote the policy means she's defending the way that they're implementing the policy. She fought for years to get it implemented.

She's not going to tell you now. Bad news. It's not doing dick. She's not going to tell us that. But of course she's not, but we can discern that from the combo, you pinhead. Oh, God. That's why you're a gay. And by the way, I got another one coming up.

I got another one coming up that you're going to want to pass or, you know, turning point USA that we make fun of T-Pusa. I'm interested in that. Of course you're interested in that. No, I'm gonna bring on the people organizing to do something on the left. They're called disrupt. That's interesting. Yeah, I'll see. We'll see.

We'll see. We'll see how many views it gets. We'll see if it's big enough for your standards and its infancy. I don't know what. We'll see if it meets you. No, because you just want to jump on everything on the bandwagon at the end what's already popping. already popping. I'm there when it starts. Me? Of all people, I'm the bandwagon guy.

Oh, shoot. When it comes to politics, you're not ready to take a stand. Yeah, you're a mushy-middle, you're a mushy-middle moderate. You know what I mean? You're not really ready to get in there. No, I'm moving on. I'm moving on for politics. We're not going to have politics soon. We're not going to, we're literally not going to have an election to vote in. So it'll be, you can interview, Ebro, interview them all, because none of them are going to have. have an election. Stop saying that.

They won't even be able to get it. We won't even be able to get out of vote. So good luck with it. Cheez-A lady, Chi Jose, Ebro, Jemone. Oh, now you're trashed. She's lit. Cheese-lid. Cheese-lid.

No, now, cheese lit, because that's Lauren's little buddy. So what? He's doing great work. Was it? He is doing great work, but you saw what Rosenberg just did she pull up to the show. Let's mince. I threw in Jumani, too. These are good names.

No, she's really creating a name for himself. Yes. working hard out here. I never skipped. I never skipped the Chios. Freedom. Ebro-Laure Rosenberg at Gmail.

Rosenberg, you have the voice notes, correct? I do. We'll get to the emails. Before we do that, where you got it, I didn't get to this this week. Are you guys familiar with the term tenderness?

Did that come across your algorithm? Nope. No, not across my algorithm. So this was it. Your algorithm's not black enough. I want to point that out. Right. But play, there was an old man that was basically doing promo for a barbecue place. And I believe the barbecue place is in California.

His old black man and he was, you know, people would come by and the meat would fall off the bone. And he'd be like tenderness. And it was a whole thing. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, this old black man, now everybody's in a tizzy because the owner of the barbecue establishment, they feel it's taking advantage of the old black man. Lawyers are coming out the woodwork. People try to give the black man money. The ownership of the place was like not letting people contact the older black man.

Oh, my God. Clearly, the ownership of the place and the reasons people are in the tizzy is some white dude who has now lines or had lines around the block because of the promo that this old black man was giving them. Run the clip, Rassan. People thought the worst part was that Unk wasn't the restaurant owner. It wasn't. The real outrage is that the term tenderness was trademarked by the restaurant owner. What we are witnessing is an old black man being used as a mascot for another man, white man's restaurant. And let's be honest, after seeing all those viral videos of the meat falling off the bone, anybody would want to try it. It was tenderness that made this restaurant explode online. People come to see him. Keith Lee came to see him. The viral fame, the business, the buzz that came from Unk, not the owner. But when Keith tried to leave a $4,000 tip, security stopped him, saying

Unk was too busy. What made people even angrier was the owner's response afterward. If I would have known he was here, I would have probably asked Edie to stop for a few seconds so we could go over there. That's what I would have done. The way the owner speaks, and Unk's energy just makes the whole thing feel uncomfortable. And ever since then, the owner has been showing up in every Tendronism video. Now, the restaurant is getting canceled, with people saying the owner mistreated Unk, and he doesn't get paid for all the popularity he's brought to the place. What's your take on all of this? Oh my God, I hate this. I hate this for, I hate this for,

if that's really what's happening. I hate that you guys also didn't even see tenderness at all. That just shows that our algorithms are just, I mean, all over the place. That's not, by the way, this story is not on y'all's radar at all. No, uh, I didn't see it. I can't, I saw it, but I think I probably saw it because you sent it a few days ago. Yeah, that was it. But this has been, that tenderness thing

at least been running for the last two, three months. Where's his restaurant? In law? Yeah, it's been running for the last, at minimum, two, three months. Am I,

Rassan would know, his algorithm's black. Rassan would know. I believe the restaurant is outside L.A. in California. Mm. Why can't Unk get his little tip?

A little $4,000 tip is amazing. He deserves it. That's terrible. Well, and, and why can't he? know, own the tenderness trademark. But you know, that's big business. But it's not, but the thing is, and it's not even big business, that's the nasty part.

Assuming this is all true, of course. We literally just played a clip of AI talking and telling us a story from the internet. So we, well, no, there's multiple sort. There's multiple people talking about this story for sure. But are they base, is anyone basing it on like going there and having conversations or is it just based? So people did go. I just took, I just took. I just took the best summarized one that wasn't like people making legal allegations.

Because there's ones where there's literal lawyers sending in documents, trying to make cases on Unk's behalf, feeling like basically who they're calling Unk, I don't know his real name, is literally being a mascot who's being held hostage and can't make any decisions. I don't know that to be the case either. Let me tell you, when they were both sitting at that table, Unk's face was not happy.

Did not look good. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. And in other news, I didn't get to this week, this is Fathers Under Ish Ebrocent. Okay. Bring up a lot. This struck me. This struck me.

This was a big deal to me. This is a big deal to me. I did not know this existed. And I did not know people would be so excited about this level of pain killer being available on the shelves. Have you guys seen that, like, people prefer dollar tree medicine? I mean. Because it's stronger.

Have you seen this? I did not notice. I did not know this either. No, Dollar Tree Medicine. I didn't know that's a thing. Yes, Dollar Tree Medicine, apparently the generic brand of Dollar Tree, or maybe it's Dollar General. I don't know which one. But it's stronger than your regular medicine.

And people go and buy it to basically get knocked out when they have colds or get knocked out when they have, you know, headaches or whatever, what have you. And now NyQuil has. When I was first introduced to you, it was through my mom and, you know, her rubbing this on my chest, right? Right. And then as I got older, Vicks, you all had NyQuil because it's the nighttime sniffling, sneezing, coffee aching, stuffy head fever so you can rest medicine, right? You even started coming out with the twin packs, one for the day so people could actually function and one for the night. But I don't know what you drug dealers are doing now. Now, Vicks, what the hell is pain quill?

Look at it. It looks like it was milked from the tent of Satan and put in a bottle. Look at it. One dose is 1,000 milligrams. You're numb. Now, I understand that you know what we're going through right now, so maybe you don't want us to feel anything. Because if the regular night quill knocks us out, what is this? Is this profil ball in a bottle?

You have a nighttime version of Pankuil. Something's going on over there. And maybe you don't want us to wake up to 2028. Maybe we just need it to be over. And I think that you understand that. But I need you to explain immediately. Pain quill is wild, bro. That's mine.

That's mine. I put that out. That's from your teeth. That's actually from my bosom. And I will tell you right now, it is delicious. add a little, uh, sprite. Oh my goodness. Yo, a thousand milligrams, a thousand milligrams.

No, I want to try pain quill. I want to try painful. I want to try it. No. No, just, Laura, just a quick little, just see what happens on the weekend. Yo, I won't hear Maya. Maya end up in a crib until Tuesday.

She'll be like, I'll be out with painfield. Nah, bro. Sounds crazy. That's hilarious. I did, I have never seen that. I will tell you though, Nike, you know, I don't know if you guys have ever had this experience. Probably not because, well, maybe Laura, but Ibro is so, in health conscious. We, when we've needed NyQuil, like, because one of us is going, like, we were both recently sick.

We like draw straws for who gets to take the NyQuil. Because both of y'all can't be zonked. We can't both take it. No, literally, we're like, but we can't both take it. Someone has to be able to hear the baby. But I'm like, oh, come on, let me take the NyQuil today. You take one, lay down. Oh, let's watch a movie.

Y'all some fiends, man. Let me watch a movie for 60 seconds. No, y'all are some straight fiend, man. No, Nike will is it, bro. But you're doing the responsible thing when both of you are steak. Both of you guys did not take it. No, why is it so funny? It happened to be in Ricardo where I was like, I'm going to take it, okay?

And then he's like, I. Because you know, I'm out. When I take this, I'm out. Yes, yes. No, bro, because the real thing is, if you're, really going through it and unique because it's not just that it i've definitely taken night quill no it but like when was last time you did it have you done recently it's been years oh no bro if you're really if you get hit this season hopefully you won't if you really get hit with it because it has medicine

to make you feel better but it also knocks you out so bad it's like you hibernate for like 12 hours so oh yeah all day you're gone you wake up you're like my back i think i'm back well but then now they got pain 12 m is wow i have to know what's going on with the pain quill p.m. No, and what freaks me out is like the Z quill. What's that? So it's a sleepy medicine. Yeah, you just take it when you can't sleep. I'm like, this doesn't feel right to me. So it doesn't, I'm guessing it doesn't have any of the painkillers. It's just to knock you out.

At this point in American society, in American history, I'll miss with it. when they give us medicine that we could buy, I will Google if it's available in other countries. Or if it's banned? Or if it's banned. Yo, Zee-Q- Because if it's banned in other countries where they actually care about their citizens?

Nah, but you can't do that because it'll be half the food that you consume also. No, it's a lot of the food. Absolutely. It's a lot of the food. Z-Quil, there it is. It just says nighttime sleep aid. That's it.

Just to really knock you out, Rosenberg. So that means, you know, that should not be sold, bro. I know. Because that will, you know, listen, I see some people who get hooked on melatonin. And melatonin is like. What about the ambient folks? There's people out here between the ambient every night for me. But the thing is with melatonin, people think it's natural.

It's okay. And then you seriously can't sleep without it. Now listen. Yeah. There are people who get that way about it. And by the way, there's idiots out there who give it to their kids, bro. I'm like, you know, you're disrupting the way. they're going to, they're sleeping patterns.

Like, they're never going to be able to sleep by themselves. And people are like, it's natural. No, I mean, Laura, idiots is strong because I think a lot of people out there have given their kids a melatonin before. No, but I'm just talking about people who do it every day. You don't want to, you really, no, they, I've seen it happen. No, I've seen it.

Every day is wild. And I'm sorry, I'll stand on calling you an idiot. That's horrible for a baby. Oh, here we go. Spicy Stats. I'll stand on it. I'll stand on it. Oh, God.

Give your child every night because you don't have the patience to put them down. They're not being... You're supposed to do work and create a sleep friendly environment for them. The only... You've got to do it. The only reason I'm defending idiots is that they were sold a bill of goods about things like that being natural and that you're not really giving them anything bad. So what's the harm?

So talk to your pediatrician. I'm sure your pediatrician's going to be like, no, don't do that. You can't do that every day. You think so. Here's the thing, guys. Here's the thing, guys. Here's the thing. I'm going to go out on a limb here.

I'm going out on a little. Here we go ahead. Hot take. Hot take. Let me get my air horn ready. Yep. Hot take, hot take.

If you have to take some sort of aid or agent every single day to do a natural function, pick one, peeing, pooing, sleeping. Nah, I can't get what you on the pooping thing. No, listen. Too many adults who need five for every day. Right.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no, listen. Listen, because you're not doing something that you're supposed to be doing, right? You need fiber every day, probably because it's not in your food that you're choosing. You're probably right. So you're taking fiber every day because the meals that you're choosing to eat don't have enough in them. Probably. I'm not probably.

Right? Based on your diet. But you can't be 100% sure that. I bet there are people who've done the full diet changes. They drink the water and they don't get moved. So something's wrong. That's all I was going to say. Is there something wrong?

I'm not saying you're wrong for taking the agent. I'm saying there's something really wrong and taking the agent every day, whatever the thing is, whatever the helpful thing is, means there's a problem that you need to fix so that you don't take the agent. Taking an agent every day and thinking everything is okay is a problem. It happens every day. Yeah, you're not. No, no, no.

And by the way, everybody, everybody, you're not. Listen, somebody's buying this stuff. Yeah. I always tell people that. When they're like, yo, you know, I would never do. I'm like, well, it's popular. Somebody's buying it. So there's clearly a lot of people doing it, right?

So somebody's taking the painkillers. Somebody's taking the sleep ages. Otherwise, this stuff wouldn't be for sale because it's moving off the show. My thing, if you're an adult, you make your own choices. But when there's babies involved, like you're in charge, bro. Make the right decision. Yeah, no, listen, it's hard. Listen.

People gamble. They panic. They panic taking the kid to sleep. You guys want to get to Family Matters Friday before we get to I think we already did I think this became family matters Because that's what the subject is I got a toddler in the house Okay this day and age to read any good news on the newspaper page And and you know

Listen it's a gift and a curse when you have children that think for themselves right? Because on one side you're like This is intellect. You're showing intellect. Like you have your own thoughts and you have your... That's great. And you have your own conviction. Right. Just throwing intellect.

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Terms apply. Yeah, I don't know why he keeps turning the music of this kind of crazy. I'm sorry. I thought I'd have the moment. But yeah, no, little Solacee be having, what is it, constipation. Okay, that's common. That's toddler constipation.

It's real. and, you know, in this house where we do eat a lot of fiber, we eat a lot of fruit, we eat a lot of smoothies, we try to do it. This child only wants pasta, bread, water. Well, that's good. She loves water. That's very positive. Does she push it away when you give her fiber?

I don't want it. Well, we could get her. She'll eat the grapes. Oh, she wants to eat bananas all the time. By the way, bananas will help make you constipated. Oh, really? Works back. Yeah.

bananas can be what do they call that um like a binding agent a more agents yeah yeah more agents but yeah not's a thing and so then now she's that she's also at a potty training age which if the constipation is like traumatizing now she's scared to use the bathroom harder yeah yeah it sucks did you guys go through that Laura well Rosenberg yes no no yes but kensis was different she had like a fear of toilets. I think I told you guys about every time we would go into a it started with the plane. She was like, why is it flushing by itself? Am I going to get, she thought she was going to get flushed down with it. And I was like, no, you're not going to get flush down. I promise you. And then she was scared. She would be like, every time we walk into a stall, she'd be like,

is it automatic? Is it automatic? And sometimes I'd be like, yeah, it is automatic. But that doesn't mean anything. Because she felt that whenever the toilet wanted, it was going to be. gonna wh-knack your ass up. Yo, Rosenberg, it was a thing. And to this day, I still have to be like, you okay? She's like, yeah, mommy, I got it. You know? Well, think about when you're a little,

when you're a little kid, basically, baby, think about how little your ass is. It could literally get stuck into the toilet. I know. You can hold a little kid literally like this. That means that it could almost get sucked in. I know. But yeah, it was a thing.

But also when she needed to poop, she would hide. She didn't want anybody to see her. Listen, you guys know, Ebro's, this is going to feed Ebro's narrative of us rooting for Ebro's downfall. And he has it completely wrong. It's not downfall. It's comeuppance. Because Ebro talks a lot of ish.

And when you have friends who are, you know, he happens to be right most of the time. And when you happen to have a friend who's very smart, but verges on, how do I say this gently, verges on no it all, you do end up rooting for them to have to have the most. like typical someone who just doesn't know what they're doing clash like the idea of health bro who's on his bike he's eating a salad while on his bike with two gallons of water connected to his ears taking shot taking shots of uh uh what is that stuff called that they take the grass yeah yeah yeah if hebrough gets stuck with if salasi ends up being one of those like 10 year olds who only will eat pasta yo

Send Ebro to such a place? I'm blaming everybody. Blaming her mom. I'm blaming her grandmother. I'm blaming everybody. No, literally. It's like... Blaming everyone loses.

He's going to melt down. Now, the good thing, here's the good thing. Here's a good thing. Right now, right? She's got a pretty good palate. She's got a really good palette as far as things that she's expanding and wanting to eat. Right.

But I hear that can change. Because mine is pretty good early, too. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Lisa went through it where she was like trying everything, loving everything, and then all of a sudden, I don't like French fries. Mm-hmm. What?

Yeah. Who are you? You don't like French fries. Yo, I've seen that. Yo, can I tell you guys something? I get legitimately mad when they're little kids. If you don't, if you only want to eat carbs and bowl-ish, while it's annoying and I judge the parents, I'm like, oh, you messed up. I don't get mad at the kid.

Of course the kid only wants to eat delicious things. It makes sense. I will get visibly angry when a kid is like, I don't like French fries. I don't like chocolate. I'm like, well, what do you like to? How do you not like a French fry? It's the one thing everybody wants to eat. Everybody likes French fries.

Everybody. No one's got a problem with it. It's just a little salty vehicle. But so this is where I go. And this is why I don't listen to kids. I don't listen to young rappers. I don't listen to teenagers. I don't listen to toddlers.

kids. And I tell Issa right now, Issa knows this. My dad does not like toddlers and teenagers. Like, let's establish that because you don't know what you're talking about. You don't like French fries right now. But you're just saying that to be a troll. What you really want to say is, I don't want French fries or I'm tired of French fries. Because you just finished eating a bunch of them last year. You were eating them every day.

And now... But fine, don't eat French fries. I don't care. And I'm not even one of those parents that, like, makes kids eat. You know where parents like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, finish this. Not, if you don't want to eat, fine. But you might not eat. I'm not getting back up at 10 o'clock

because you're hungry. You're going to have to, I'll see you tomorrow. Right, right, right. Because you're not going to starve. The doctor told me when Issa was born, it takes 28 days to starve a kid. So if she's finicky food, you got time. Yeah. Once the doctor told me I got 28 days, don't eat. I'm not arguing with you. All right. Yo, Roseberg, my dad would make me sit at the table until I finished on my food. I would cry.

I would say, I want to throw up. 10 o'clock, I'm still there. From seven. That's so, you know, parents were making it up, bro. No idea what to do. Now, I know we got to get to other stuff. We got a guest. And we got to get the Friday Freedom.

Maya has just hit. It's hilarious. It's annoying, but it's hilarious. she has hit the going in her box of toys and throwing everything out like a maniac stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yo, it is comedy. It's like what?

Because it's fun. It's fun. Are you moving? Why? Who are you mad at? Why are you throwing this stuff like something happened? She just goes in. Little car.

Pillow. Now let me ask you this. Has anybody yet told her not to do it? I have not. Has any, but you know your wife. It's happened like twice. It's happened like twice. It's happened like twice. This is brand new.

But nobody's been like Maya, don't do that. No, not yet. I just want. But by the way, don't. Why? Because she'll do it more. Because depending on her personality. So you're saying no sell it. Yeah, like, ooh. That's crazy.

Look at you. Or nothing. Give nothing. Because if you give something that she keeps doing it either way. And now we're having a fight. She'll just get bored of it. Because she's just going to get bored of doing it. It's just something new she discovered.

But it is, I got some on camera yesterday. Natalie was like trying. Natalie's sitting there ducking as I'm trying to film her doing it. And you know, this kid's teeth, bro. So you come from the front, it just, you just see a little white here, three on the top. But when I'm changing her, that side angle where you could see in her mouth, bro, she looks. Ebro, you've heard on the, on ESPN when I do the Freddie Keeking character. That is what she looks like right now with her teeth.

She looks like, I'm Freddie Keating. She got these, she got these fangs. and fresh, yeah. And the little two rabbit teeth. She's like she's playing an Eddie Murphy character like in cosplay. What's going on? How are we doing today? It's so damn funny, bro.

It's a good time, man. All right, let's get some Friday Freedom. All right, let's go. Friday Freedom, we don't have no intro. Drop a beat. We need some. At least a beat of some sort. Okay, I like this beat. It's just free. It feels free, you know.

Friday Freedom. That's right. You can say what you want to say, feel how you want to feel. Ebro-Laura Rosenberg at gmail.com. That's right. There's an email, Rosenberg, scrolling back here to the 15th of January. 15th of January, right? All right, Jasmine says hit Rosenberg with the button.

Peter, hit yourself with the button. Damn, why? Congratulations. You played yourself. You gave your opinion on Don Lemon without clearly having to. taking the time to watch anything post CNN. His show is not only informative and in touch with our society, but he acknowledges where things are wrong with either party and in the world,

where we need as many people as we can to simply give facts. You chose to disparage someone doing just that, trying to be snarky. That's from Jasmine. P.S. Laura, are you ready for your next batch of cookies yet? Um. She also says wishing you all the best. Okay, so let me just respond to Jasmine for, about one thing. First of all, I don't watch ABC News or taking. I was, there was a period where I really enjoyed the NBC Nightly News, but then Lester Holt left and I haven't been watching. Obviously, you can't watch CBS News anymore. So, no, I'm not sitting here watching any sort of, any sort of big anything. However, I am admitting to you guys, sometimes it's just personal vibe. Like Don Lemon just isn't my cup of tea. I find him grating and self-important.

I'm not saying he's on the wrong side of history. I also think the same way that Chris Cuomo learned that his best path was to do the dance and seem like a right centrist, I still think Don Lemon is doing the dance. He's doing a different dance. He found the place where his audience would be most likely to resonate. I don't think he was ever some sort of super progressive. I think this was a calculated decision of where my brand goes moving forward. I don't think he's a bad guy at all.

I find him to be, even in the stuff that happened this week, a lot of it feels like it's about Don Lemon. He's very much the face of the story to me. I'll give you this. You know, I've watched him on CNN and I watch him a little bit now. I wouldn't say I've watched him a lot. Are you part of the Lemon Nation? I don't have any Lemon Nation merch.

Okay. So, I will say his politics seem more progressive now because most things in the media seem so chaotic. Like, there's so much craziness. He seems more progressive just because he's in the same. I think he's in the same place he's always been. I don't think he's more progressive than he ever was. Got it. I think he's kind of, based on what I see, he's the same.

It's just that's when it's almost like It's like Jake Tapper who's still on CNN. Yeah. Right. Jake Tapper's always been the same. But as things get crazier, Jake Tapper, who's always been,

how about somebody who's so centrist and doesn't even have a political identity really? Wolf Blitzer. That's Wolf. There you go. Wolf Blitzer even seems progressive right now. And he doesn't even have an opinion. No.

Right. Because he's not seeming like a, crazy right-wing lunatic. Right. And so John Lemon does have an opinion. He does have an stance, but based on what I see,

it's the same. Yeah, honestly, it's not any sort of huge thing. Like, I was giving, I was kind of busting Ebro's chops about it. He's just not my favorite.

I do end up watching him from time to time. I personally, look in the comments. Many people hate me and find me grading. So it's fine. I just find Don to be a little bit grading.

That's the main thing I'd say I feel. Just a personal choice. that's fine. I would say anybody that has an opinion that is their own and can sometimes, because it's their own and they have their own opinion, will land in an unpopular place

because they're like, this is how I feel about this thing. I don't care what's popular, what's trending, or what your fan base or your supporters are saying, I don't like this. Right, but in my case with Don,

it's not about his opinions. I generally agree with most of his opinions. I just think I'm like, like even the Nikki thing. Like his response to Nikki, it just wasn't super thoughtful. He's in a really good position to have like thoroughly sunned her. And he just kind of read the internet and was like, oh, aren't you? You're not even American.

They should deport you. I was like, that's not the, that's not thoughtful. That's not how you're like you expect more from Don. If you're playing the role that you play, it should, you shouldn't have then just went, you know, Twitter commenter attack. It didn't, you know what I'm saying? I just, I thought there was a better play there. This is not my favorite. But I don't eat the Friday.

Friday Freedom. Laura, you got an email. I do, I do. This is from Jessica. Good morning. I grew up listening to you guys. It became a part of my routine. I listen on YouTube now while working or when I'm driving, I turn on the podcast.

Appreciate hearing all of your opinions and wanted some insight on something. So recently, my algorithm on TikTok has been feeding me a lot of Black Panther videos, which I'm okay with. I think it's because I watch a lot of protest videos. but I'm curious to know if any of you guys have seen any of this. In the videos, they're walking around with rifles in the streets trying to protect people from ice. Are they impersonators? Is this AI? And would this be a good thing if the Black Panthers were on more on the spotlight?

Will this start a full on war? History tends to repeat itself. I'm just curious to know if you guys have peeped any of this. I'm shopping at the bit. Go ahead. Sorry. Side though. Did you hear that Greenland has a TikTok trend called? fentifold. It's where they're making fun of Americans. Oh, no, it's where they're making fun of America by being slumped over pretty much acting like they're high on fentanyl. Oh my God.

America is such a joke right now, guys. Damn. I haven't seen that trend, but I'm going to look it up. Yeah, I've not seen that trend. I will say this. I saw the Black Panther videos moving around. I saw it too. And it felt, they felt weird, felt weird to me. And then I saw Amanda seals yesterday put up a post about it that also hit my algorithm that I thought was interesting where she was saying does anybody find it weird that there are these Black Panther videos no one seems to know specifically much about these particular people and they're all of a sudden being fed to everyone in the algorithm basically it feels like a setup I definitely thought it was weird I'm like they just are out there with open rifles in Philly that can't be a thing I just wasn't

sure if because now is it AI are they impersonators actually we don't know we don't know you bro you you would certainly be the most likely to know something about this do you know anything i know what you guys know yeah i don't know i don't know what's real what's fake i don't know you know i don't know these people um obviously i know people who are who are descendants or from the original black panthers um you know look um there have been people who have taken on the Black Panther aesthetic themes and ideas popping up using that for generations. So it's, you know, I'll tell you this, there are definitely active organizations that call themselves the Black Panthers before these videos started popping up. So for me to say that these people aren't real because now the algorithm's feeding it.

But I would actually, I would actually, my brain actually while I'm talking through it goes to. the real setup is why the algorithm is feeding. That's what I mean. Not that these people aren't who they say they are. Right, but what are you trying to make everyone feel by showing us? So these algorithms that are owned and controlled by entities that, as we know, are interested in monetizing fear, division, and also creating an atmosphere that's potentially a powder cake. Why are you now feeding this stuff at a time when you?

you suppress real activism and real information of genocide and things going all around the world. Right. So you're suppressing actual people trying to do news and cover stuff, but you're making sure everybody sees black men as black panthers with a gun standing on the street. But you're making sure people see that. I go more to that than I go to these people. That's a good place to go. That's a very good place.

people, like we mentioned yesterday, new ownership is here. TikTok's algorithm will be more aggressive. It'll be more deceiving and you really have to be careful with that app. No, it's, it's, and we live in a crazy time. They want to make it more pro-Maga, pro-Israel, so you'll be surprised that things are going to pop up. And for this e-mailer, you must know, the original Black Panther intention was a very inclusive, thing the black panthers worked with zapatistas the black panthers had members who were white the black panthers had members who were asian the black panthers worked with asian revolutionaries feminists

all of that in northern california the the idea of being pro black was not anti other things right it was it was about inclusion and so the video you are seeing, you also got to know those individuals in that video, because I've watched them, are saying that they are helping Latinos and they are helping people who ICE is harassing. And then people were saying, but you're Black Panthers, why do you care about Latinos, Hispanics, and Asians and other groups? And I saw the guy who was the guy in the video saying, the Black Panthers have always been about protecting marginalized groups. Yes, the black community, but all communities,

because those are extensions of the Black experience, whether they know it or not. Your existence in this society and the things that you have as a marginalized person in the society exist because of the Black experience. So you're saying that if that guy is AI, he's on point. Yes, from what I can see so far. Now, I would, I would, yeah, this lady, we, this is going to end Friday freedom today.

The lady can't just write Ebro and message about Black Panthers, and we're going to get back on the track. Come on, we got to keep. Well, and I would suggest for all of us. It's a different time, different levels of surveillance, different levels of, you know, tactics being used by, you know, the entity. that, you know, control society.

You know, make sure you got your stuff in order, B. Facts. Don't just be standing out here all will-nilly hollering if you're not really ready, ready, ready. I'm ready, ready, we should play a voice note. All right, let's go. We're not going to get to much more freedom today. Who do you guys want to hear from on the voice notes?

We just hit Leah. She's the first one I have here. Let's go. Hey, Ebro, Lauren, Rosenberg, big up on the show. I'm a long time listener from Connecticut and you all are truly the soundtrack to my mornings. I'm so happy that you have the ELR show now so we can still spill tea, talk about family, life and politics,

and share a laugh. We need your voices more than ever and my day wouldn't be the same without you. Loving the pod and the YouTube channel so just know that I am sat for the next phase of the plan, I'll say a special message for Apple. Obrough because you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Oh, here we go.

I'm seriously a huge F1 fan. And your friend Lewis doesn't know it yet, but he's my future husband. Oh. So if you want to slide a girl a paddock pass for a race. Oh, my God. I'll see if you're with friends at Apple, you'll have a continued thought for life. Love y'all and keep swimming with all that blood in the water. Yo, Alia, we love you.

The fact that you just took a shot, the fact that you just took a shot, at literally a top five eligible bachelor on planet Earth. I know. I know I know Ebro. By the way, through me. I know Ebro used the word friend. I think he was being a little loose there in terms of,

can I set you up with a stranger listener? Don't know if that's the play. Hey, yo, Lewis, a lady send us a voice note to a radio show, or not even radio show, YouTube show I do. We can hook you up with Louis, though, King Louis. Oh, there you go. Not Lewis Hamilton. Not that King Louis, no. I can't. We can't do it. Lewis Hamilton. Listen, Friday Freedom, Rosenberg, you got an email.

Yeah, let's see. We got to wrap this thing up, guys. I think this is going to be our last one, Rosenberg. Yeah, we got to get to an interview. All right. All right. All right. There's a bunch here. Here we go. What's up, ELR crew? I feel like I pivoted right along with y'all. And I've been a Friday Freedom Participant since its inception when it was Freedom Front. Just want to congratulate y'all's on the new situation. The pivot was clean and glad y'all got some of your drops back,

especially the button in Kansas, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And loving the new ones like blood in the water, doing the dance, etc. Also, I hope you can bring Caswell and Juanito, Shawnee Culture, over to ELR. If not, maybe, make Hot Rod Rick part of the show. In closing, shout out to my wife, Robin and one of her good friends, LaShawn. All three of us work at the same place and listen slash watch at the same time. peace and blessings. Yo, look, man, we would, listen,

the way they covered my ASAP Rocky Conversation on Apple Music, by not saying my name, makes me feel like it's not all good. Because honestly, what I would have said is Shawnee, Cass, and Wannito, come hang out whenever they want. But it's starting to feel like

they might get in trouble. Yeah, I think so. I don't think they're allowed. Yo, can someone explain why, though? Like, I'm seriously asking. They don't like us. They're not happy with us. No, no, no, but who isn't?

The owner's management. I never had a bad relationship with them. It's not like I never, did you get into an argument? No, no, no, but that's like the CEO. I'm talking about the people we dealt with on a regular. Did we have any bad interactions with them? I mean, I definitely complained about certain things. I called out things.

Yeah, but it wasn't their fault that there was roaches and the bathrooms were broken. They were waiting to get more. money from the top to make changes. I really think they want, they didn't want that. No, the woman that I would deal with was wonderful and she even couldn't believe it. I would never say her name because I'm not going to throw her into the bus. But she would be like, this is crazy.

Evidence suggests based on what we're dealing with at this moment that they are, someone, someone at the top decided we want this to end bad. We don't want this to be clean. It's ending bad. Particularly

for Ebro and Rosenberg. We have decided this is going bad. Yeah. And this is where we're going. Wait, why is it particular me and you? Yeah. What do you? I thought.

No. Oh, really? I'm cooked too. Oh, I didn't know you were cooked. I thought you were initially not cooked. Excuse me on the Barbie. Oh, sorry, Lord. That changed, no?

You weren't initially put on the Barbie. Wait, what are you? What do you guys talk? Wait, what are you talking about? We don't want to get into the justice. We can't talk about what they owe us. We don't want to talk about that? No, yeah, we can.

They owe us money. They owe us a lot of money. and they don't want to pay us. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And by the way, that's a union contract. Yes. We're dealing with our union. Yes, that's a union deal.

They are going against the union. So Laura, I thought you were good. All about unions. No, I'm not. Oh, but I thought me and Ebro, they're claiming for with cause and not you. Oh, yeah, but when our girl was trying to get, be like, okay, so what's up with Laura?

Crickets, crickets, crickets, crickets. So it's not popping. Okay, so yeah, all of us are getting done completely dirty. So to your point, the point I was trying to make to you guys was to Ebro. Someone decided it's bad and probably bad because, and this is the irony, the one of the rifts was political. And this is the Trump model. When you're big and you have lots of money, you don't pay people, let them sue you.

You're not going to play the game with me. Let's work out a deal. I'll give you a few bucks on the dollar. This is what happens. This is the game they want to play. It's the same thing that I'd be dealing with if I try to get out of the rental apartment that I have right now that I'm not sure I want to be in. They own hundreds of buildings. Break the contract.

We'll sue you. What are you going to do? They don't care. This is America, baby. We just got America'd. They don't. They know they can beat us out. But even in that, right?

But even in that, right? Even in everything you just explain. And up next, we have a conversation with Abdul, Yahya Abdul Matine, the second, who is in Disney Plus Wonder Man, which is a, coming out. So we're going to get to that. And we'll wrap this up here. Even in everything you just said, Rosenberg, those are shrewd business tactics. That's not personal. That's just how some people operate.

Like, they don't think, like, I've dealt with people like that. To them, that's just business. Like, come, if you want your money, force me to pay it to you because I'm not going to make it easy for you. Doesn't mean they dislike you. So you're saying that doesn't equate to the fact that then they wouldn't say your name when referencing you on the air. Yeah, like, why wouldn't you say my name? I think you're giving people too much grace.

They didn't give us, they didn't give us a goodbye. They didn't put up a post about it. And yeah, you know what? And really no one put up a post about us. If we're being honest, yo, when enough left, it was Tribute Fest. When we left, I, not posted in the building. It was Tribute Fest with us. Let's be clear.

Nobody else. Nobody else did. Maybe Clelo. That's it. Well, no, no, no. But also be clear. I think people were scared to touch us, though, because of that. No, no, no, but our public relationship with the ownership of that establishment was clearly, based on what I would talk about, was clearly not good so people would be afraid.

They don't know. So, exactly. So then why are you acting? So then why are you acting brand new about why it's weird? No, but because. No, no, no. But to people who don't know, what I'm saying is to the management that we dealt with every day. It's not about them.

This is coming from whoever made the decision that they were done with your political ranting and the Cuomo thing and me complaining about this and sounding like I had an attitude and not being there. Whatever the things were that set them off, they decided it's enough. And that's the same person who's saying don't mention them. Don't talk about them. You're right. It doesn't make sense. It's nasty for no reason. It really didn't have to be that deep.

And honestly, you're making it and they're making it hotter. Playing the A-Sap Rocky and not saying my name or not-ign is making it scorching out of it. Well, the not paying is going to make it hot too. All of it's going to make hot. Yo, and also not allowing us to say goodbye, made it hot. I preferred it. People was like, yo, this is bad.

I was like, nah, this is how I like it. This is great. And then when this whole thing starts moving around, too, it's going to make it unnecessarily awkward for the people that are there. You're going to accidentally turn people into scabs because you're breaking union rules. They're about, you want to talk about it. You want a big rat outside of the front door?

Yeah, talk about it. Y'all are breaking. So they're going to choose to make this up. But again, this is what people do, and they still think that's fine. It's lots of noise. I'm still not going to pay the money. Because they don't care about the brand. That's where we landed in the first place.

That's why I was unhappy there in the first place. They don't care if the brand looks nasty. Right. And that's why I was so vocal because you have legends like Ant Tripp and you have Fetim. Bugsy. Bugs is still there? red alert and they're working in a closet with no windows for the last two years and you're breaking promises on when you're supposed to open the next studio and you continue

to give us dates say something's going to happen and it never happens. And by the way, and then play. And then hand people have contracts in front of people offering to extend them for three years and then simultaneously say you're firing them with cause. Very interesting. Anyway, it is what it is. Yo, how we do this on a Friday Freedom? I got to go.

Well, it's Friday Freedom. And we suppose we have freedom. Good luck, everyone. If the weather hits, be safe. Just be safe out here. And for our listeners in this mouth, be safe. Please. Yes, man.

Yaya Abdul Mateen I second. Great conversation next on Ebro, Laura Rosenberg. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Ebro Laura Rosenberg, joining the show. We got a quick moment with Yaya Abdul Mateen the second. How you doing, sir? I'm fantastic, man.

How y'all doing? We're doing great, man. It's a powerful name right there. It's a powerful name. I'll tell you. I'll take it. I appreciate it. Well, now, so you are about, or Disney Plus is about to launch, and you will be Wonder Man.

Yeah. Which is, I'm assuming as Disney is recalibrating, resorting the Marvel Cinematic Universe, this Wonder Man character we're going to be seeing a lot. I hope so. I mean, I know what we see, you know, we got eight hot episodes, you know, coming out right now. But really what I love about it is, you know, to me,

we get to see this dude Simon Williams in his pursuit of wanting to be an actor and his pursuit of being a star. And I know there are a lot of people who do know about Wonder Man already and the Wonder Man that people know about, he's already a star. So right now we get to see the backstory

of how he became, you know, the person that a lot of the fans know. To me, what's the most exciting is, you know, getting the opportunity to say, okay, well, we see what he wants. Now, let's see who he becomes when he gets it. And that's on the other side of what we,

of what we cover in our show. But, you know, hopefully there's a future for and where we get to see, see how he handles what he's, you know, the responsibility and the fame that he'd been looking for. Now, according to the comic books, and I had to check, I just checked this. Wonder Man was jealous of Tony Stark. Uh-huh.

Right? And ultimately, like, infiltrated the Avengers and then had like a change of heart and like risked his life and then join the Avengers. Uh-huh. Now, we're not going to get all of that in these eight episodes. No, we're not. No, we're not going to get that.

That's like the whole, that's the whole. Yeah, that's a whole history and that's a whole saga. And really, you know, I would tell anybody watching to treat this, treat this differently. Come into this fresh. You don't have to know anything about Margo or anything about Wonder Man in order to appreciate this.

So, but anything that you do know, I mean, you know, come and check out the show too, but you don't have to do your research and things like that in order to follow along what this is. When you got your, I think your masters in fine arts at Yale as an actor and you've done a lot of different things. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you ever imagine the amount of superheroes? Was that, was that like, because at this point, like, yeah, like, like, did that ever even cross your mind that you was going to be like tapped to, I mean, you was in Aquaman, you was in Watchmen. We're doing this now. Why?

No, man. Man, I'm going to be honest. when I was in school, I wanted to do a Broadway, I wanted to be on Broadway. Yeah. That's, that's what, and before then, you know, about five years before I went to school, I was like, if I could, you know, do a little McDonald's commercial and then get like a line on a soap opera or something like that, you know, I walked my way up. That's really what the, what the dream looked like.

looked like. It really looked like just being amongst people acting and getting it how I live. You know what I'm saying? Just kind of getting in there and getting where I fit in. But I went to school and it really turned into something else. I've been on Broadway, nominated for a Tony. I'll play one best best revival in I think 2023, I think. So I've really been blessed. But also I'm going to get back to the superhero thing. you know, Watchman, Aquaman, and now and Wonder Man, they're all, it's the superhero genre, but we do it, we all do it differently. That's right.

Or I've done them all differently. So what I really like about Wonder Man is that this dude, Simon, he's not even, he's, he's not even concerned with anything to do with superheroes or superpowers or anything like that. He's just a dude or he wants to be seen as a dude who just wants to be an actor, and that's what he's the most interested in. So, and that's almost kind of like who you are, that's part of your story, I think, coming up, right? Yeah, that's a part of a part of my story.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. So what was your journey like? Like, how long of a period was there between the studying and things starting to pop off for you? Well, on one way, you know, I worked in city planning. I studied architecture for my undergraduate. I worked in city planning in San Francisco. I got laid off in October 2010.

and then I decided to go and pursue acting. I had taken some acting classes in an undergraduate, and then I got into Yale. After about 14 months, I got into Yale. Now, that was the beginning of my former education and acting. That was, what, 2012, the fall of 2012. 2015 is when I graduated. I graduated in June, and 10 days after grader,

I was filming one of my biggest scenes on this show called The Get Down with Bad Sturman. I remember the get down. And so I actually got that job while I was in school. And I started traveling from Connecticut, from New Haven to New York to do my rehearsals and things like that. And I was I was already shooting by the time I graduated. So that's a pretty crazy story. So you went from being in grad school to over 10 years. Tony nomination, primetime Emmy, three different, you know, incredible superhero sort of situations,

plus things like the get down. Do you stop and look at it as like this has been a pretty insane 10 years? Because most people's, an actor's journey could be everyone's as different. Some pop in two years. You know, Timothy Salome is big at 22. Yeah. You know, someone's grinding at 40. How do you sort of view your journey? Man, to be honest, I'm a, I've always been an ambitious person, always been a bit of an overachiever in my mind. So I'm blessed, right? I'm blessed, but I'm not impressed. That's the, that's really the truth. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm really just, I'm really just stacking wood right now. You know what I mean? And just, I'm on my way somewhere. You know what I mean? I have my, I have my production company. because I want to be able to have the opportunity to tell my own stories, to tell the stories that I got in here, to tell the stories that I got in here. And they look different from a lot of the body of work that I've already, you know, put out into the world. I'm from New Orleans. I grew up in West Oakland. The stories that I have, they feel like those places.

They feel like the people who come from those places. Now, they still feel, you know, like they come from a big universe. And I still want to tell stories with the same type of scale and scope of the things that I've been involved in, but with a little bit more soul that, you know, connects back to who I am and, who I am in the heart. So that's really the next iteration of, you know, what I hope to do and what I hope to present. And so everything else that I've done along the way has really just been building currency. You know what I'm saying? To put me in a position to open those doors.

I also saw that you have a TV series on the way based on a man on fire. Could you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, that's going to be cool. That's going to be cool. I actually, we filmed that down in Mexico City. It's based on the book. And, I mean, truthfully, people won't care about that. just going, you know, they'll say, nah, it's based on the movie.

They'll say, look, Denzel, you know, anybody. I want to see, I want to see yaya. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, but it's cool, you know. It's set in Brazil, and we actually shot it out in Mexico City, but we did shoot over in Brazil for a while too. And what I love about that is it's completely different from Simon Williams.

Simon Williams is, Simon Williams and, you know, John Creasy don't, they'll never cross paths. And as I look at it, I don't even really recognize, you know, the person. So I'm excited to showcase those two different styles. And that'll be out on Netflix in a little bit. Yeah, yeah, you know, do you know Ryan Coogler at all? Have you guys worked together across paths at all? I know him a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know a little bit. We, I think we ran track against each other in college. Or we were around the same, like, athletic circle. I mean, not college in a high school. What high school did you go to in Oakland? I went to Mac. I went to the Mac House. McClime's.

Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right. I was born, I was actually born in Berkeley, raised in Oakland, Sacramento myself. So. Is that right? Yeah, I've been in New York since 2002, but, yeah, I started, yeah, in Northern California. Yeah, I went to Berkeley for my undergraduate. Okay.

Yeah. I saw I saw that on the year you're a cow kid no he listen ebro was just born there you know he I didn't go to I didn't go to let's be clear I used I used to I used to just smoke I used to just be an amoeba records on telegraph yeah yeah yeah you know smoking weed at uh you know smoking weed at blondies you know blondies yeah man yeah yeah yeah yeah now do you but you know a little everett and jones barbecue down on university in san pablo too, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Have you gotten to have any satisfaction? I mean, listen, I'm just an observer of someone who enjoys the culture of the Bay, et cetera. And every time I see Coogler speak on a major platform like at the Golden Globes, bro, I'm just so tickled. Like my wife is looking at me just giggling and doesn't even get. I'm like, babe, do you understand how real a Bay cat, this guy? It's like, what, for you being a guy from the Bay and an actor, like, what kind of satisfaction do you get seeing Coogler just kind of be himself?

You know, I know Marchand, too. Oh, you know my God. I know Marshawn a lot better than I know, than I know Ryan. Okay. And I think it's dope, you know, I think it's dope. I mean, to be able to be comfortable in your own skin, to be. comfortable, you know, and who you are to represent the time. I think that's really the ultimate flex, right? That's really the ultimate flex. And to still not have to compromise your art,

to still bring, you know, integrity to the work and still be who you are. That makes me feel like he's like he's right at home. You know what I mean? And that's the best way to work. That's really the best way to work. So it's cool. And then it's, it's, is, is, you just hearing it. You just hear it. You just kind of smile, you know. Marciaun, of course, on a, I mean, Marshawn's been doing it for a minute. There's so many moments I love. So many audio clips I play on my sports talk show of Marchand just saying things. He's been in no way since high school. You got to protect your chicken. You got to, your mentals, you know, now you remember Marchon from from high school, too? We play basketball against each other in high school.

He went to, he went to Oakland Tech. You, you checked beast mode in high school basketball? I mean, yeah, he checked me. Marshawn, Marcian, my son, my son, I ain't going to throw no, I ain't going to throw no salt on the game. But yeah, I mean, he'll remember, though. That was like a rivalry. Like, tech. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Here's question, because Marshawn is football first. committed a lot of fouls just to be football first yeah he was he was a football he was a football dude playing basketball they yeah they all come over you know beef up the team after after after after football season and uh you know they was they was they was tough yeah he bro you think he was using all five fouls he was all five foul all five foul he ran track too though he ran track so yeah marshawn my m'shawn was a all around athlete around there but always

always a good dude always a real good dude you've done it all You ran track, you play basketball. Fespian, Berkeley, Yale. Yeah. And superhero. Sorry, sorry. City planning. A little bit of city planning.

Yeah, I've been around a little bit. I'm still trying to figure it all out. So, you know, excuse me if I don't have it all. Hey, no, no. Based on your resume and your life before acting, you was kind of already headed towards superhero. Let's be honest. I mean, Wonder Man is based.

what you were doing already. You know what I mean? Like before you even got the road. I'm just trying to figure it out. That's that's really the truth. You know what I'm saying? I'm blessed with a, my second memory is my dad coming into the,

into the bathroom and like telling me that I was smart. You know what I'm saying? I'm putting together a puzzle on the floor. And he came home from work and he's telling me that I was smart. You know what I'm saying? He said, what you got in that big old head? And that was his way. of telling me that like I got a brain in there and then I was smart you know what I'm saying that's my

second memory so my my how old were you and held you three maybe maybe three okay maybe three and I'm the youngest of six and that's how everybody in my life has always spoken to me you know what I'm saying I'm I'm truly blessed but I'm also a creation of My family made me, man. My family poured into me and they told me they built my confidence. They made sure I felt good about myself, made sure I thought I was smart, told me that I could do anything that I wanted to do, supported me as I went and tried. You know, I left architecture to go try to be an actor. There's no stability in that, you know what I'm saying?

But it's like, no, do it, do it. Okay, cool. I'm gonna go try. Well, another layer of your beautiful story, too, I was reading that, you know, your mother's Christian, your father's Muslim. So you were raised in a very spiritually dynamic world as well. And me as somebody who grew up in Northern California, I have a Jewish mother. Right. And a Christian and was raised in a Pentecostal church.

Okay. And then have Muslim family members and all that. So it's a very, it's a very, you know, I don't know if you want to speak on just Northern California and specifically Oakland and Bay Area. But our interactions with different cultures and walks of life and, you know, so many different things is very, very unique. Yeah, you know, I didn't, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't really realize, let me see, growing up I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have described Oakland as diverse. I'm from the projects in New Orleans and then we moved to West Oakland. All I know is black and, you know, we had some like Mexicans and some Cambodians and maybe

some Vietnamese. Samoans, Samoans, Pacific Island. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But everybody, everybody was black. You know what I'm saying? So, but yes, you're absolutely right. Like I was growing up with what I was learning was like,

love for myself, love for people, love for God, humility and appreciation for West Oakland, appreciation for black culture. And it really wasn't until I went to Berkeley that I began to, you know, you know, see, to really see and appreciate diversity. And that's really because that's when I needed it. You know what I'm saying?

That's when I needed, that's when I felt like, man, where, where, where is all the diversity at? And then that's when I started to appreciate it. So it was, I did grow up in an environment that was rich in diversity, but I didn't even really know it at the time to be too much, tell the truth. Well, because it's second nature, right? Like you had so many different. And diversity comes in many ways.

Yes, there's racial diversities, but then there's just cultural diversity. And then there's, you know, spiritual diversity and all of that. So this, man, it's been a pleasure meeting you, bro. I've been a fan of your work for a long time. You know, the next time you decide you want to do a full frontal walkthrough on my TV screen, I need some sort of heads up a warning. You know what I'm saying?

Because that it was crazy, bro. It was crazy. You want me to give you a personal? Or just like a personal mind. No, the whole scene. I was like, hey. Are that a warning or is that a heads up? Like, which one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants to know he wants some advanced food. Oh, my God. So we get it paused. Oh, my God. Yo, did the world go crazy? Real talk. Did the world go crazy?

And did you get an extra fee for that? Is there like some sort of extra check that comes for that? No, look, I'm gonna tell you this. I really wish that I knew that that was, I didn't know who I was playing when I signed up for that job. So I really wish, if I would have known that, I would have asked for more money. I would have known who I was playing

and what I had to do because of who I was playing. I would have tried to, you know, throw something extra on the type of thing. Well, there's you. You was given extra, they came in L. You threw something extra, all right? And apparently Ebro was there to catch you. Hey, yo.

Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. No, Yaya, Abdul Mateen, the second. Look for him in Wonder Man on Disney Plus. We appreciate you. Keep going.

Yeah. And we hope to see you again soon, man. Appreciate you. Thanks a much. Yes. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Salute.

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