The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 22.) More ICE Madness In Minneapolis, Snow Days, + Clipse and Pharrell at the GRAMMYs (1/26/26)

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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Empezae. And then you euro al-mess in shopify.s. Just don't call it a podcast. Ebro Laura Rosenberg. Good morning. Good morning. The Snow Day edition. How you feel about that, Laura Stiles?

It's all right. That's all right. I'll tell you this. Okay. There you guys. Okay. The snow is pretty real. It was pretty real.

Yeah, man. Yo, Iro, let me ask you a question. As a parent of a child who's been in school for a minute, I don't know if you guys, did you do the remote learning, the remote classes? We had to do it during COVID. Why don't they make it so damn complicated? Why can't it just be easy? Oh, my God.

Like last night, I was just trying to, like, set it up and I have a chat with all the parents and all the parents are complaining because none of us can, like, figure this out. Well, what do they have you logging into a particular site? Yes, they sent us a device and then it's like a particular site. Oh, wait, you have a school-approved device. You can't just use your own device. I mean, look, they sent it, so I'm using it. Okay.

Because I, you know. And then it's like, log into this portal and do this and do this and wait for this. And, you know, it was just portal after portal after portal after portal, like, bro, why is this so complicated? Well, I will say the portal after portal after portal is will always be under the guise of safety measures. I mean, I know. If there are weirdos, if there's not enough firewalls and there's, and also remember this, there's families with weirdos in their family in your students class.

So if they don't have portal after portal And safety measures Then you got Uncle so-and-so Who's got whatever jumping Oh, right I'm just telling you this is a real thing Like you're not, listen You're not wrong

But I feel like I've been on enough Really important calls Where it's like maybe two portals are enough Or three Right Well don't you think this leads us Don't you think this leads us to, I think, a very, a great honor for the new mayor. I would like to, from me, I don't know how you guys feel, extend to the new mayor who we were big fans of, Mayor Mom Dani, the first ever as mayor.

Congratulations, you plagued yourself. Wait, why? What happened? This remote learning announcement was. It wasn't an announcement. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. They decided that.

No. No. Well, he, he, listen, he came out and announced that, well, that is even worse. Hold on. Then it's a double. No, you're right. You're right, Rosenberg. Because they kept, all the parents were like, were kind of like on the, on hold.

Could be, could be, could be, could be all Saturday. And then officially on Sunday, they were like, yep. No, that's not what I'm talking about. That's not what I'm talking about. Well, he came out and announced it this weekend. The rule about no snow days. You guys don't remember after COVID when they decided that they weren't going to do snow days anymore. and they were just going to do remote learning

and everybody was like, what the hell are you talking about? We don't get snow days anymore. Y'all don't remember that? I don't remember that being a permanent decision. Yeah, that was a permanent school board thing. Well, but then it's even more of a congrats for Mom Dani. Because he got up, because he got up there and announced it as if the decision was made.

Well, no, but that's, I think the decision was made that people weren't going to be able to come to school that they were going to have to stay home. Not the decision was made that they were going to do remote learning. Go go watch it. You didn't hear it. Trust me. No, I saw him say it.

I said, we've decided, yes. We've decided we're going to do a vote. He said it's one of these two things. That's what's going down. But he should have, if what you're saying is true, and he didn't actually decide anything. It was already decided. Oh, well, then he should have definitely said,

as you guys know, there's a rule in place. I was under the impression that in New York City, they don't do snow days anymore. that they do remote learning. I thought. Well, I hate it. Laura, I thought it was when you get to a certain amount of days,

then you go, hey, we don't want to extend the year into the summer, so we're going to have learning at home. All of the snow we've had so far is falling on the weekends. I think this may have been the first real bad snow day on a weekday. Yeah, I think some teachers in the chat, maybe teachers who, well, you guys better be gearing up to get in your portal after porter out of portal time.

But I was under the impression that they were going to do remote learning on snow days instead of just having kids do snow days. Well, that thought that was a thing. Well, if he didn't, whoever decided then, because it seemed like he did, but whoever decided you don't ever get to do it again is the biggest. Congratulations, you play it yourself. It's punishing everyone.

Like, not only does it take away a fundamental, classic fun thing of childhood if you grow up an area like this. Yeah. But the parents just, bro, the parents just can't do it. Now they got to,

it's a double whammy. No. And what makes it hard, it's like, okay, a parent has to stay home and be with the child and go through everything.

So you can't necessarily leave them with grandma, you know what I mean? Or somebody like, I know I have people that Kansas stays with who wouldn't understand, who just wouldn't get it.

And then Rosenberg, on top of all this, I looked at the curriculum and it's like, movement snack time snow play brough all this all this for you guys to have so now here's the other option as a parent and just so you guys are clear you can also just not do it there's no ramification for you being like i kept my kid out of class today yeah but then your kid is absent yeah but what's that going to do it counts against you if you don't have if you have a lot of absences like you don't want that i mean are you going to have a lot of absences i already Yeah, I'm about to say, you know, Laura already has a vacation plan, so she needs to save the absences. Hit Laura with the butt. Oh, come on, man.

Congratulations. No. She's culturing. She's making her. She's culturalizing her child. Guess what? Well, no, I get it, but you got to make choices. No, man.

So annoying. It is annoying. Remote learning is annoying. During the pandemic, it was mad annoying because, yes, as a parent. Remember parents were complaining that they were like, yo, this is what teachers have to go through dealing with kids. Please. We thank you. teachers. We miss you. We love you. Pay them more.

Y'all don't remember all that? No, I do. Yes, and I still feel that way, but but there you go. That's what, that's what this was all about. But ladies and gentlemen, yes, did you guys enjoy the snow at least? Were you able to take Maya outside? Did Kenzie get a snow play yesterday? Did any of that happen? I went outside with Maya for about five minutes. It was sleeting and hitting her in the face. I'm going to keep it real with you guys. This snow was just not John Blaze. Like, it was, It was a big snowstorm. It's, it's wreaked havoc on the streets and all that.

There was no beauty to it. It wasn't the big fluffy flakes that you ought to take a picture of. It was just like nasty, endless sleet and ice falling from the sky. Well, people were definitely, people were definitely heavy in Central Park Sledge. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. If you were like older, for sure. All the parks, yeah.

The stuff over all, the stuff by my house was definitely light and fluff. on this side. Just in my area. Now the street was a mess. Outside on the street was a mess. But what I'm saying, when you looked out your window, though, it didn't look like a beautiful, Christmassy, flake falling, did it?

No, it was sideways, upside down, blowing around. And sometimes you couldn't even see it. He wouldn't even really see anything. It's just coming down. You know what I mean? But there were the, what do they call it, snow drifts where, you know, the wind blows it up into a nice pile.

Kids were playing in that. Oh, no. I'm not saying it wasn't playable snow. It was definitely playable snow. It just didn't look dope, if that makes sense. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah, no, outside.

It was snowy snow outside when I stepped outside. I think today, a matter of fact, in Brooklyn at the Fort Green Steps today, I saw on Instagram, if you're a skier or a snowboarder, some people have taken upon themselves to enact some sort of New York City snow festivities, and you can go snowboarding at the Fort Green Steps. Doesn't sound the same. I know. But if you just want to get some, imagine snowboarding in Fort Green,

gentrification on a thousand. Oh, man, that is a crazy concept. You just dropped right there. Nah, Fort Green Park, snowboarding? It's like getting a macho latte in Brownsville. You know what I mean? And it's all happening. It's really all going down.

It's all happening. Now, that's the fun part of the weekend for us. The terrible part of the weekend was the fact that ICE agents murdered a man in streets. Oh my God, guys. Alex Perea. No, Alex Peretti. Paredi. Oh, Paredi, excuse me. Alex Paredi. ICU nurse at a veterans hospital. The videos were circulating of him, you know, giving condolences and last words to veterans in the hospital. Oh, that choked me up, Ebro. When I saw that video, I was like, what a beautiful human being. Like, that was tough. That was a tough one. Do you see a pee?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, from the second I saw this guy, from the second I saw him. I know you can't, it's like unreasonable to judge someone. But you could just tell him like, oh, this guy is just a mensch. This is just a good guy out here doing good guy stuff in the world. And the reason he got murdered was doing good guy stuff.

Got killed doing good guy stuff, looking out for a woman who's getting abused by the ice agent. An ice agent, ice agent's pushed this woman to the ground. And the scene before he's helping. the woman before the ice agents had even approached him. He's like waving traffic through on the street. I can't. Just helping out, just trying to help make things better.

Waving traffic through. He definitely had his iPhone now. And for the rest, yo, hit the button on anyone out there. Congratulations. You play yourself. They're twisting and turning and trying their best. They were like, oh my God, he was armed. He was ready to attack.

He was not ready to attack. He forgot that part. He was legally armed. and the ice agents took his gun. And from the videos that I've seen, the different videos, forensics, Instagram agents, it appears that an ice agent took his gun and then fired his gun. Oh, you thought he fired his gun?

People are alleging that the guy in the gray jacket that took Alex Peretti's gun, when he turns to run away, they zoom in, and it appears as if the ice agent fired his gun, which then prompted the other agent, agents to start firing at Alex. Oh, I did not see that. That's very interesting.

That's being alleged. Huh. I will say this. It would, that, that stupidity would I guess make some idea of how it could have happened. Because what I have is, the image I have is a man is facing the ground hunched over, making no attempt to fight back with his back to the back to the, the officers. Mm-hmm. His gun has now been removed, and the dude just started pumping bullets into his back.

That's right. Now. That's what we all saw. As, as evil as all of this has been so far, it even went beyond the scope of what I would have expected from ICE agents in Minneapolis. I cannot. I don't. I don't.

I don't. I don't. Because there'd be no way. for the same reason that Trump last night had to say, well, we're going to have to review all of it. They made it almost, it's so awful. Yo, guys, I thought it couldn't get worse than Renee Gray. This is significantly worse than Renegra.

This is significantly worse. There's no argument to be made. You can't make an argument he was putting anyone in danger. You can't. No, you can. Oh, my God. And they're trying. Guess who did?

Everybody. What's the guy that's dressed up as the character? Oh, Gino. Bonjino. That's dressed up as the guy from the Tiana Taylor movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy who's dressed up as the guy from the Tiana Taylor movie who's dressed up as a Nazi.

That guy is really, really a bad guy. What's that guy's name again? I don't know. You said Boncintech, Bochino. I get confused whether... What's his name? I get confused whether Boncineche is just a podcaster or if he's actually the guy who,

either way I know who you're talking about. about with that he's got he's got the he's got the military cut and the and the and the and the cross body uh you know nazi rega outfit on but anyway these people are not qualified to be doing this word that's what's ever clearly evident and this week it's going to be interesting because you know the heat is on chuck the chuck the chuck schumers of the like in the and congress because they're supposed to allow more funding to go to department of homeland security and specifically ice. Yeah, so the idea is that they could maybe block giving them any money, right? I mean, that's what people are expecting. Several people are expected. Can I ask a question? Because,

I mean, I'm on the fence between like wanting to just rage all day as I rage basically on Twitter, like an idiot all weekend. Between that and wanting to ask a question about what can we do? In a perfect, nothing's perfect, but if we had a perfect leader right now, like what do we want to see them do. We know we want the Democrats to do something. What does fighting back actually look like? You know what I'm saying? What are we really?

Well, fighting back actually looks, for me, I could just say fighting back would look something like, A, stop funding this thing. Sure. Right? B, how is the Attorney General Pam Bondi saying that we'll remove ICE from Minneapolis if you give us the voter rolls? Like, what does that mean?

Like, why do you need that? They want election details because they want to take Minnesota from the Democrats at the midterms. They are trying to get access to the voter rolls because they want to take the election again. This is so wild. How much the 2024 election was tampered with, 2020, was it, 2012, whatever, November 2024. It's unbelievable that she straight out just said it. Oh, we'll get ice out of there if you turn over your voter rolls. So it would look like not turning those voter rolls on.

It would look like not funding ice and it would look like getting ice out of Minnesota. And it would also look like disbanding this whole ice thing all the way around because the way it's been funded and the way it's been set up clearly, clearly is with unqualified individuals. They're fast-tracking. individuals into ICE without training. These people are not trained to be on the streets. Why are you pushing a woman with a phone? Why are you pushing anyone?

But realistically, we're not abolishing ICE while the Republicans have the controlled they have. It's not going to happen, right? No, absolutely not. So, like, I'm just asking the question because I just want to know, like, we're disappointed by so many people. Like, AOC is one of the only people who I really look at and see actual leadership from the tone that she sets in these moments.

You know what I mean? But I'm just thinking of like, what do we do? What do we really do? Well, the other thing is I mean, I don't think we have the video, but we have Kathy Hokel, the governor of the United States. New York.

Or excuse me, Governor of New York, talking to Trump and basically saying, Christy Noam needs to be fired. These people need to be fired. This whole, like, they need to resign and all no they need to be fired and they need to be arrested or they need to be arrested because they're breaking the law that's the other part they are breaking the law laws are being broken and they're doing it like this is the one of the things like people kept posting the videos this

weekend like yo look at this i that my good friend jody kept sending me stuff like he was so emotional upset he's like look at this video look at that how can they say i'm like do you get it bro it doesn't matter what's in the videos they they this isn't even you bro i bro i bro i bro this isn't even you what's beyond lying? This is intentional gaslighting. They know. They said that he attacked the ice agents brandishing a firearm. They said he was a domestic terrorist. They said he showed up there with the intention to harm ice agents. Meanwhile, these are the same people who will die for the right to carry a firearm. He had a legally concealed firearm. And I'm seeing these people online going, well, you don't want to get shot.

Don't bring a gun to a protest. I thought you guys were the party of bring a gun wherever you want. He wasn't doing anything. And what about Kyle Rittenhouse? They love Kyle Rittenhouse. They love Kyle Rittenhouse. No, and the old couple, remember the old couple on their front porch with the machine gun? Right, right.

And they invited them to speak at the Republican convention. They were heroes. However, this guy helping people with... Hit yourself with the button. I can't even believe that you... Congratulations. You plagued yourself. What about, what about what about with these people?

That's what I'm saying, though. I'm saying there's no point. The only thing left to do is insults and curse at these individuals. That's the only thing left to do. There is no way you're having actual adult conversations with these individuals anymore. You're not doing it. People who ran around talking about don't tread on me in the Second Amendment and the First Amendment. And then now all of this is happening and they're like, well, don't do this.

And again, you don't want to get hurt. Don't bring them guns. First of all, it wasn't even a protest. That wasn't an actual protest. What was going on in the street. Those were neighbors, people who lived in the neighborhood, right? Out there because ICE was grabbing people and has a history of grabbing and harassing people right now in Minneapolis. Right.

Who are U.S. citizens. I don't even think that was the actual protest. Nobody said that. Yeah, no, you're right. It didn't look like there was any organized protest happening. It looked like it was just more madness. the street because that's what they're doing. And now they're going into people's homes. Like straight up going into people's homes. I don't know if you guys saw the video of the man who

came out of the shower. They pulled them out in his underwear in the snow. Yes. U.S. citizen, by the way. And they just, you know, they have to fill their quota. So they'll snatch everyone up, get them processed in a couple of days. Oh, whoopsie. You're free to go with no repercussions. And to answer your question, Rosenberg, there's really nothing we can do other than highlight this. things. Right now in New York City and in a tri-state area, there is like Ice Watch Instagrams and chats where people are saying where ICE is and encouraging people to stay in the house. In New York City right now.

And remember, Department of Homeland Security running down on people that they believe were illegally here is not new in New York City. They've been knocking on doors. And they go to, and they've been doing that in New York City for as long as I can remember, knocking on doors between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m. or between 5 p.m. and 8 p.m. But to Laura's point, entering houses, killing people on the street, pushing people, all of this sort of thing, that, listen, we've never seen anything like this in the United States in this form since, since, since they were doing it to black people, since they did it in internment camps to Japanese people, since they've done it to Mexican Americans, because let's not act like this is brand new, please.

Ebro, you're talking without moving. You're like, Jamiriqui. You're traveling without moving right now. Yeah, man, but it's just, even though, yes, we know this is nothing new. But right now, right now, it's bad. And it continues to get worse. And that's one of the things that gets me so angry. There are a few different arguments that get me the most angry.

one people love to bring up you know previous presidents deporting just as many people to which again it's like why are you no one's saying they love bringing that up no one love it no one saying that deportations don't happen

or that deportations shouldn't happen with people who need to be deported for whatever legal reasons and due processes happen that shown their time is up here they haven't done the legal work and they have to go and you're not ripping them apart from their family.

Right. Or you're arguing. Or you committed a crime. Or you committed a crime. Yes, I think we can all agree. You committed a crime. Get out of here. No one's arguing that point.

So they bring that up all the time. The point is how it's being done. And that if you can't see that this is a completely different process, shame on you. You're being willfully ignorant. And then the second one, Laura, that drives me crazy is, and this has been happening now for just years. And I know this probably sends Ebro into a frenzy when these right-wingers

try to compare the behavior of rogue criminals to people who represent the U.S. government. In other words, we get upset about ice agents killing Alex Pretti. They go, what about the guy who killed Lake and Riley? Yo, no one thought that was okay either. No one thinks when anyone gets murdered, it's okay.

Those are not police officers. They are not government officials. I know. Why are you choosing to be ignorant? Why? Congratulations. You played yourself. So,

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a super chat Donald he wrote orange orange Peel and all of his sick offense are purposely spreading misinformation for their benefit. Agree. They're voluntarily complicit and lying about things like this so their agenda continues to stay on track.

I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. Yo, but I've seen clips and I have to, I've been like, God, Rosenberg. I've just been trying to like limit the amount of stuff I see because it just for my mental health, right? So I try to limit it. But I did see some clips of even some Fox News hosts asking certain questions that I was like, oh, wait, even you? Well, that's my point.

This one seems to be getting, they effed up in the sense that it was so bad that even people on their side were forced to be like, you're not supposed to do it like that. You're not supposed to make it so obvious. You shot the guy in the back six times while he was on the ground. Don't worry. We're going to investigate. And he never took his gun out of the holster.

Never. Never took the gun out of the holster. He turned his back to them. He was wrestled to the ground. They were punching him in the face. Then they took his gun and then they shot him. They murdered that man on the street. That's it.

That's the end of the thought. And I thought the plan was for them to try to do it in a way where they could at least present another argument. No, they rush to put something out before they've even looked. looked at the video, hoping that they're lying can shape the narrative. And I got news for you. I, in my, at least on my algorithm, there's nothing you're doing that is shaping any of these narratives in your favor. Literally nothing.

So if you believe, what's the lady's name that speaks on behalf of the White House? Catherine. Caroline Levitt? Oh, Carolyn. Carolyn Levit. Donald Trump, Pete Hedcetheth, Christy Knoem, the man. dressed up as the Tiana Taylor movie character, whatever your name is. If you believe any of this is working in your favor, it's not.

You're being lied to by the people running around hanging out with you. Y'all are all being lied to. They can't believe that this is helping their narrative. The only thing I believe that they really sit there and think about is, is this causing enough distraction and chaos and mayhem to, the average American that allows us to continue to make our billions of dollars and change government policy right beneath everybody's noses. Yes.

Without everybody being able to pay attention. That's exactly what's happening. And then, you know, yes, Congress and people are demanding investigations, we don't trust the investigations. And that's a problem. None of us here trust these investigations. And you know, that's the next stage of this democracy falling apart. And we've talked about that many times.

And we can move on after this. But the fact that people don't trust elections, you don't trust your media, you don't trust your government, right? You don't trust any of your institutions, even your higher education institutions. You trust nothing. What do you have left at that point? You don't trust it. There's people who you don't trust the doctors. You don't trust the scientists.

You don't trust anything that is an institution that is supposed to be keeping you safe, informed, and alive. it's it's where do you go from there yep it's the they've set up the perfect storm yeah where now there's nothing to trust and so then you have to immediately you go to okay who does this benefit it benefits to billionaires it benefits to people who can pay a lot of money to change how we see each other and change how we see our country and it also benefits foreign powers and we've always alleged that Trump and this whole system is working on behalf of foreign powers. And the beautiful part for them is they're all getting paid. If the plans end up like falling apart for them,

with the exception of like Stephen Miller who literally won't be happy until like there's no color in our country and it's just, it's the, it's the Fourth Reich. With the exception to him, Ebro, the rest of them don't even care. Like if the plans eventually stop working and fall apart, They all got their money and it ends. They don't give a shit. They just want to, they want pure chaos and to stuff their pockets.

That is it. And this other stuff that, yeah, sure, they want to do as much as they can. But if it fails, they're going to be gone. It's all money. Trump's made what,

Ebro, over a billion and a half, a billion and a half this term? That's what's being reported. That's what's being reported. So. His dumb kids are making, making hundreds of millions of dollars. Well, look at the NRA on the right side of history.

Even the NRA spoke out against the actions and narrative afterwards. No way. Miracle. What a miracle. I got to look this up. I know. I know.

Trust King Luke. Talking about trust. NRA and Ebro, don't worry. This is from the BBC, so I trust it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Here we go. NRA and other U.S. gun activists push back at Trump officials over Minnesota shooting. Bro, if the NRA is not with you and you fired a gun, you're either black or you did something really bad. Man.

Yo, the fact that white people fired a gun, government officials, white government officials fired guns and the NRA is saying, nah, hold on. That, you know that's bad. I want to go back to hitting the button. I want to, there's this story going around, around this furniture store called Furniture. connection. I sent this to you guys in the chat.

You can follow this under Ish E. Broseon. Oh, gosh. Okay. Okay. But it's such a phenomenal. It's such a phenomenal story on so many. All right. Can you explain it to us? Are you able to make us understand it? Basically, this guy's wife went on social media saying that ICE needs to keep, and I'm paraphrasing, keep shooting people. Ultimately, they tracked down that she worked at this place, furniture connection.

And then the husband... had to come out with a statement saying that she's not involved in the company. But everyone's like, but she's your wife. So she's in, like, what do you even say? Right. Run the clip. Hi, I'm Dave Bergen, owner and president of Furniture Connection. Today, a comment was made on social media by my wife, Joy,

regarding the protests in Minneapolis, Minnesota. She is not involved in Furniture Connection, but I understand her words reflected on me and our company. Oh, but she is involved. If you haven't kept up with this story, it's kind of funny. So his wife decided to jump on the internet

and say this. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, as bad as bad could be. Yeah, on multiple social media apps. And of course, it took the internet all of about seven seconds to figure out who she was, what she did, where she lived,

and the fact that her and her husband own a business in Clarksville, Tennessee. And as you can see, prior to his wife, they had a four and a half review on Yelp with 27 reviews. Yeah. Today they're at a 1.2 with 646 reviews. Yeah. And three different times in that video, that man says this person has no affiliation with furniture connection. Except she kind of does. Yeah. Thanks. off for the IG post. I follow that guy.

He's a great guy to follow if you don't follow. But it has great stories and little nooks and crannies of the United States. But also, come to find out, I went down the rabbit hole and hit the button. Okay. Congratulations. You played yourself. That guy right there talking, everybody's putting all his business out. He's married to that woman who was doing that on social media.

She was his employee before he was married to her. And the only reason he was able to get married to her was because his, his wife that he was previously married to got blown up in a boat accident that he was on the boat of and he jumped off the boat and his wife got blown up in the boat oh my god according to reports according to what i read so then he marries his employee and then that's his employee doing that on social media all right good story good times that where did these things what part of the country was this in again i think he's in missouri i think that's where for sure Missouri.

You and me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. But anyway, I just thought it was a good little tip bit. People out here playing themselves. How do you get on social media saying that? A lot of people are. No, seriously, when I see some of these posts

and I see some of these vile comments from people, it's unbelievable. I'm like, you're disgusting human being. Listen, my wife was encouraging me this weekend to really stop engaging. And, you know, she's in a place where, I think, like, you know, The three of us are, with varying degrees of each of us, are able to engage in this stuff

that deeply affects us and yet also not have it like poison us for the day. You know what I'm saying? Like, we can get into it, talk about it, fight about it. And still, it's kind of just part of what we do and we're used to it. My wife is more of the category of like when she gets into it, it takes over her and completely shapes all of her feelings and how she's behaving all day. So she was like trying to stay away

and encouraging me to not engage. And, yo, when I look at the comments that I get back to everything I say, I certainly understand her point. This thing that we used to have called Twitter is so nothing but of a poison well. It's insane. Like the second-

All of them. All of them. Twitter's bad. Threads is bad. Right? What's the, this whole, you know,

no, you can't call somebody a Zionist on TikTok now. I saw that. You can call somebody a Zionist. That's a slur now. Yeah, there's a whole wave of people

deleting their TikToks, but they have the new, the new, was it, terms and conditions or whatever, whatever. Yeah. On TikTok that people are up in arms about.

Play the, play the Zionist video for me, Rizan. We made a change to designate the use of the terms Zionist as a proxy for a protected attribute as hate speech. So if somebody were to use Zionist, of course you can you can use it in the sense of you're a proud Zionist. But if you're using it in the context of degrading somebody, calling somebody a Zionist as a dirty name, then that gets

designated as hate speech to be moderated against. Over the course of 2024, we tripled the amount of accounts that we were banning for hateful activity. We also have, I think, over two dozen Jewish organizations that are constantly feeding us intelligence and information when they spot violative trends. There is no finish line. There's no finish line to moderating hate speech, identifying hateful trends, trying to keep the platform safe. There's no such thing as an end game. Look, if we can do it forever. End game.

Well, by the way, you know, and they should be doing it, right? Like as hate speech evolves, as people come up with new terms. Oh, yeah, sure. Like, there isn't a time where monitoring hate speech on these platforms should stop, in my opinion. And who am I to sit here and tell a group that a term that's, you know, being used hatefully shouldn't be monitored and taken off. You know, because there was a time when you could just throw around the N-word on video game platforms and social media. of platforms. They got that up out of here too. I mean, you could do it on Twitter.

That N-word is flying all over the place. They don't care. But Twitter, Twitter, as we just discussed, Musclean. Is a disaster. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. King Luce points out that the new TikTok terms are a disaster. I

haven't been able to compare in contrast enough, but people who get into the terms and conditions on social media claim that TikTok's new terms are overreaching. I always assumed all of these platforms are taking my face, my kids' face, my family face, my friends, who my friends are. They want your geolocation so they know your movements. I assume that was the game from the beginning.

Yeah, but this is like taking religious information, sexual orientation. Only TikTok does this now, what you're saying. I'm just like, really? And then I think I saw, I saw your, if you're documented or not. But I'm like, how would they know that? And Laura, I'm clarifying. Yes, yes. Yes.

This is what TikTok is asking for now. Yes. Yeah, yeah. For the Zionist thing, listen, have I seen the word Zionist used in a way to be intentionally hateful to Jews? Absolutely I have. However, at this time when people have now learned about what is happening and the death and destruction of people in Gaza, there is.

is a lot of commentary involving the idea and problematic nature of Zionism that is a reasonable and needed conversation. And the idea that you would make that word one that you just simply can't use only furthers every bad narrative that exists about Jews already. And that idea of Israel's plan to make everyone associate Israel with Judaism all the time, it just this just furthers that. idea. So you can't talk about Israel. If you talk about Israel, you're insulting Jews. Do you believe Rosenberg that it is the plan to not only associate all Jews with Israel, but also to keep Jewish people themselves in a constant state of traumatized fear so that there's this constant, constant fear going on. So it's this vicious cycle, self-serving cycle going

Yes. Yes. You believe that to be a real mission for some people. Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, I believe that to be why I think October 7th was allowed to happen. I think the idea was, hey, yeah, we're going to lose all these innocent people, but those are peace-loving lefties mostly anyway, right? So we're going to lose them, but it'll further this narrative that, like, we can now make sure everyone must protect Israel. Now, again, that's not taking away just for anyone who to try to hear this.

and change my words. That's not taking anything away from the evil of Hamas. It's only pointing to the evil at the top of Israel that was willing to potentially take a loss to keep the narrative and plan going. Because yes, they do want us scared. They want us to think we need Israel all the time. Some people have pointed to the fact that there's evidence and video

of Netanyahu talking about helping Hamas and funding Hamas for the sake of continuing to keep some sort of opposition going and also keeping Gaza separate from the West Bank. Like that's all been on the chess board, if you will, for decades. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, originally, I think as it goes, B.B. Netanyahu wanted to support Hamas because he didn't want to strengthen the Palestinian Authority

because the Palestinian Authority was moderate and there could actually be peace with them. and it could actually work out. That part. So he didn't want anything to do with the Palestinian Authority, so he beefed up Hamas to allow them to gain power. Can you, like, believe that's a real thing? Like, when you find out how bad the people at the top of everything really are,

it's mind-numbing. It makes you go like... It goes back to what you said earlier on the show. What do we even do? What do we even do? I know. It makes me appreciate Shani Culture's view of the world. World War. It's all Babylon. I don't know what the hell you do, bro. I don't know what you do.

And on a real level, that's why, like, you were talking the other day, Ebro, about how it's at least our obligation to think about these things and, you know, sort of suffer at least with our thoughts and with our words to go through what people are going through. On the flip side of that coin, like, I understand people who are like, I cannot do anything. I feel completely powerless. I need to take care of my family and just be okay day to day. I can't, I can't knock you if that's what you're trying to do. Well, look, we're laying in bed watching, uh, uh, something with Salasi.

Jazz is just crying. I turn and look, I'm like, what are you crying about? She's like, what, I don't know what to do. I'm thinking, it's a blizzard outside. I'm thinking about people who are cold and like, oh my God. I'm going to where to go right now. Yes.

She was like, you know, I think about what, you know, mothers go through single mothers are going through right now. Then I start spiraling and thinking about mothers in Gaza having to like kids with amputees and these kids who got had no anesthesia getting their body parts amputated, right? Like what the human experience is actually going through right. She was just crying. Just broke out crying. It happens. It happens to me too. It's when you, you just can't help it. I think you cannot help it as a parent. Like put yourself in all these different situations. Listen, let me tell you, I keep telling you the,

the movie that I saw, the voice of, what is the name? I want to get it right. Yes, I'll get it right now. Let me just Google it real quick because I want to make sure I get it right. But they just got nominated for it. Of Hind Rajab, Hind Rajab.

Hind Rajab, okay. I, listen, you guys, it's still with me. It broke me. And that's one, the story of one person. One angel, one child. And then, you know, and listen, I follow doctors without borders. And when you read the testimonials and like listen to what they've gone through, like, they wouldn't even let them come into Gaza with like that peanut butter that's that has a tie in fat.

And it's literally used to save starving children. And they're not allowed to bring it in. It's cruelty. And then on the, and then I think about like, you know, Alex. Preti's parents got a phone call on Saturday afternoon that the whole thing that was happening was their kid. That's right. This kid who they raised to be a good boy.

You know how hard it is? Like honestly, to all the parents out there raising good boys, man, part of me wants to have my next child be a boy and part of me doesn't just on account of like we need more good boys in this world because men are so terrible so often. They raised a good boy who went out there and did good things. Good things. Yes. And he was executed by their country.

Like, yeah, Lord, to your point, it's just everywhere. And so I get how people get just completely overwhelmed. Allora, we need to get, should we get into the rundown? I have your new full intro for sure. Okay, okay, let's do it. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. New intro. The full intro.

Okay. That mean a beat drop after? That's right. Okay, let's go. Laura got the run down, turn that up. Screen's on glow when she pulled up. Headlines heavy, but we still cut up. Light still flashing.

We don't slow up. I'm stuck. I don't, who decided on these graphics? Who decided on this front? Like, where did this even come from? Who makes a decision? I think Bascom did. I think he realized that with this new app we're trying.

You have to have our names on the screen. You have to. He said he tried everything. But there was no, like, you guys, he went over this with you? No. Well, yes, he talked it over with me when I got on earlier today. But you like this font where it says Ebro Rosario. I prefer it not be there, but he has no choice.

No, I don't mind it. I'm asking you about the font itself. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if he has a choice. We're losing our bed here. All right, right. All right, all right. All right.

Well, I don't know if you guys saw, but the clips and Farrell have been announced as performers for the 2026 Grammys, which is exciting. All right. Grammys are going down Sunday, February. first live from the crypto.com arena in Los Angeles. So remember that the clips is also nominated for five Grammys this year, which is exciting, man. I really hope they take something.

Album of the year, they have to. Album of the year. Best rap performance for Chains and Whips. Best rap song. Birds Don't Sing. Love that song. Best rap album.

And best music video. What do you think they perform? I think they perform birds don't sing and John Legend comes out. Yes. There's literal birds flying. Make everyone cry because that's what that's all. That song jokes me out. I think it's probably, yeah, that's got to be that, right?

You don't think Sto God Cooks comes out and they do fight. No, I don't think they do fight. Listen, I'd be here for it. I'm here for it. And, you know, Farrell is also nominated for four Grammys this year. But with, with, everything is tied to the clips. Are you all glad I put you on to that Clips album? Oh, man, I never would have heard it without you.

God. Thank you. work on that album last year. Man. You did go hard for it. Not like you did Kendrick, but you went hard. Well, you think I went harder for GNX than I did? Well, I thought once you had GNX tattooed on your ass, I thought that's a sign

that you went for. I showed you my ass? No, you mentioned it one day you were like, you thought we were off the air. You're like, yo, I can't believe I got GNX tattooed on my ass. And I was like, wow. Wow, that's a statement. That's a big statement.

All right, well, speaking of Farrell, man, I know You guys saw this and it's sad to see. Chad, Hugo, is suing Farrell. Oh, come on, man. Yeah, according to reports, this one's from Complex, man. They're saying that Chad is accusing Farrell of specifically unpaid royalties and failing to properly account for the company's funds. He filed it in California. He's seeking at least $375,000 and potentially over a million over no one ever really dies the album.

I got news for you. That number. So first of all, this is getting a lot of headlines. Accounting issues, withholdings, unpayment is, I don't know, Roseboro, you can speak to this. You're closer to the publishing world than I am. But I hear it's pretty common. Not saying Ferell is not liable here and not saying there isn't an issue here that needs to be pointed out.

But let me tell you how much money those two have made together. Way more than $375,000 and way more than a million. Yeah. I thought that number was pretty low too. Well, no, because it's only for the nerd album, which probably he's suing Farrell, which I'm, listen, I have to imagine with the stuff I've heard, Farrell, I know we hear there at odds,

but I've also heard behind the scenes that that's overstated. And the odds are really with people that are close to Chad, not with Farrell. And I'm guaranteeing Farrell make sure this gets paid right and gets done right. Well, So Chad is also, he says he claims he also owes him royalty money for most of the Neptunes and nerd catalog sales along with touring revenue and merchandise partnership. So this is, this is a lot more. Yeah, no, it sounds like, look, there's stuff that needs to be worked out.

But unfortunately, I guess it's very common in this business, not making it right. But there's definitely people who want to go back in with forensic accountants and nickel and dime and make sure they get everything their owed. And Chad's definitely should be doing that. Make sure he's getting his money. Because guess who's got money? Them and for real. And everybody involved. Everybody near it.

I mean, bro, the amount of publishing they've gotten over the years is, it's crazy. I know. I know. Listen, this next story, I think you can go into lowdown. So give it to me, Rosenberg. Whoa. Wait, which one you got? Let's do this.

Wait, who decided on these graphics? Now we have a. Wait. I'm not I sort of like a little bit more like hoopla about the

Hey Satan just get Let's take us to hell All right All right I take us to hell I'm here It's time

For the low down All right Well I'm sure you guys saw this But Nikki Manon

has confirmed that she will attend the Trump Account Summit. That's my goal. She'll be there. It's going to be all live stream in January. And she says, she actually replied to a post from them saying that, look, this is the true meaning of paying it forward.

You know, these Trump accounts, it's a very interesting situation because it's like, it's supposed to be for American children, born between January 1st, 2025 to December 30, first 2028 and they're eligible to receive a $1,000 like deposit.

I hate to be rude. I hate to be rude. Okay. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Nikki's going to hang out with Trump at some event. Yes. Yes. I set it up.

Yes. Easy. Hold on a second. I think the reason I can't hear what you're saying and I definitely don't want to hear from Satan is because I don't give it to him. Girl, go do it. Nikki, go do what you're going to do. No, she is.

I'll tell you what else is going to happen. He moves on. He's had enough. I'm going to tell you what else is going to happen. She's going to put out an album at some point next year, and we're all going to listen to it. Not me. Easy squeeze.

I bet you listen to it. I haven't listened to it in the album since the pink print. I'll be good. I bet you go through it. I bet you go through it to see what's in it. Did something happen to me? If I bumped my head with something off about me, take me to the doctor.

I hope Natalie takes me the doctor if that happens. She's like, Peter's going through the Nicki Minajia album. someone call someone get a head check and those saying they're not going to listen you're going to be inundated with clips from it all that it's going to happen yes you're wrong I think you might be wrong I think this moment's going to have a bad effect I actually don't think he is because I want to be wrong but people are going to hate listen people are going to share it's going to talk about it's going to be controversial and the barbs are very much we don't care what she does we're going to stick beside her a lot of them are like that a lot will laura the loudest ones who are paid the most money to be these bots will do it. But a lot of the people who just enjoyed Nikki and they didn't pay attention to her shenanigans, they just liked the music. They have heard about this, a lot of them, and they're out.

This is going to have a bad effect. I feel very strongly about this. It's going to be quiet. I hope you're right. I hope you're right because this type of behavior deserves it, in my opinion. She deserves a big old flopperoo. You know what I'm saying? but I don't think it's true.

And it's unfortunate because I think she's talented. I think she already was operating in a world where like the biggest records, like the single on the last one, what was the... What was that record? The last big single she had. Where she sampled...

Oh, with Uzi Gart on it. Yes. Yeah. Like that one made it to everyone. Like it just became a, you know... It was super hit. Yeah, super hit. Ubitious kind of song, right?

But like the other stuff, you bro, culturally? I don't think it makes it to everybody. You're kind of oddly biased just a tad in that you're so in music. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like you're in it. I'm telling you, I kind of operate

when it comes to popular music now in a very like, does it hit me space? That one, Oozever was the only one that hit me. Well, I'm glad you brought that up. I think that's a great transition if you don't mind, Laura Stiles. Go ahead. Lowdown.

Well, I mean, it could be the lowdown. To the Jim Jones Kid Cuddy conversation. Oh, I got thoughts. We know, do we even have the Jim Jones or Kid Cuddy clips today? Did anybody take it upon themselves to set those aside as a hot topic? I doubt it, but it's very easily explained in 12 seconds now. Because Jones was on a podcast. That's right.

He's done this before. He's done this before. He basically said, you know, without me, there's no Kid Cuddy day and night and he didn't get it. He got his deal because of me. Kid Cuddy responded and was like, yo, shut the F up. That ain't true. we'll go to now Rosenberg for your take. Thank you. Thank you very much.

We were all there, so I'm sure we can all have the same take. Jim Jones version of Day and Night definitely took day and night on the radio at Hot 97 to another level. It definitely took it to. All the DJ started playing at Mixo. It definitely took it to the next level in a hip-hop New York sort of way.

Day and night was already a thing. Yes. Yes. And I believe broke in L.A., right? I don't know. On radio, I mean, I believe. Is that true? I don't remember, but I just know it was a thing already.

I remember hearing that, but maybe I'm wrong. But it was already big, period. On the Internet. Cutty was all, yeah, it was big on all the blogs. Cutty was already big downtown. there was the Crookers remix of Day and Night. Okay, yeah. Remember, the up-tempo club version?

That's right. Like, it was already all a big, big thing. So you know what? They're both right and they're both wrong. Well, no, but that's why I brought it up now because you started talking about reaching to all of the places. Yeah. Right?

And it's a perfect example of there being different ecosystems, right? because some people believe, oh, I have a hit because I was big on streaming. Some people believe, oh, I have a hit because I was big on radio, but it wasn't big on streaming. I've always believed you've got to have it all to really have a hit. Yeah, and you're correct, sir. And to your point, those different things make it reach everywhere. So I think Cuddy, if Jim didn't frame it the way he did, Cuddy would gladly admit that that had a a huge impact and it was super helpful.

I think so. Something in my brain says that they've had this discussion before. They have. They have bro. They have. Can I tell you what? I want to see Kit Cuddy's art in person because it looks fire. Have you seen Cuddy's paintings? I did. I saw some of them. I think I think Cuddy's into a nice.

Reach out to him to him see if he'll come on the program. I thought you know what I thought about that yesterday when we were talking about our plans? I thought about him I talked to him a few weeks ago. I'm going to see if he wants to come by and just talk art. About a program. Because now real quick, we're a little behind here, and we have to do the original gurus. We can talk more about this tomorrow.

But, Ebro, I do have to mention everyone. If you're not yet a patron, okay. Yes, yes. A patron of Patreon. A patron of Patreon. Last week, things went a little haywire, and it was awesome on Patreon. We already have the new Patreon in the can. We do.

Okay. It drops Wednesday. Woo! And the patrons are going to get the first look at the plans, at the point. At the plans. At the plans. I'm not going to say anything. Don't worry.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. At the plans. Okay. So if you're not on Patreon, head over to ELR show on Patreon. There's already one up. We're dropping another on Wednesday that's going to give our patrons the first look at the plans. Not to mention that. Great conversation.

I mean, if you like the inside nitty gritty-ish talk, you're going to enjoy it. So I just want to shout out to this. This one's a doozy. Well, and I don't even like it. Why not? Because I can't believe we're still talking about this. Well, it wasn't just that. It was a lot of stuff.

No, I know, but it's just like, come on. Listen, it's life, bro. We're working through it. You got to work big changes, bro. Life has, you know, it's hard to work through the big changes. You got you to, I just take too long to work through things. Or I would argue, or sometimes you don't work through things at all. You just power forward and bury it deep down.

No, no, no. I don't bury it. I just don't want to, I kind of want to prolong it. It's like a prolonged thing. You know what I mean? I said what I needed to say. Now, did what I needed to do. All right.

But let me tell you, just go to Patreon, man. Look for us because it's a good one. It's a good one. And to you, the people who already signed up, man. Thank you. We're super, like, we're super filled with gratitude for the amount of people that are signed up already. It's very cool. For the people that signed up already, I already think Rosenberg and Laura Stiles are disrespecting you.

So complain. No, we are not. You know what? Complaints. You know what, Laura? Thank you. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com.

What is happening? We're trying something new today. We're going to see if we like the video from Riverside, Mali, bro. Calmate. I knew that was coming next. The original gurus at gmail.com. Were you right to us? We take care of you.

Rosenberg, who's out there? Who needs us? Ah, so many. Reach out to the gurus. Zen. Zen. Oh, God. Zen.

Zen. The original gurus, I've been a fan of the show. Send your email, by the way. The original gurus at gmail.com. I've been a huge fan of the show for years. It was genuinely sad to hear that you all stepped away. I've followed your work for a long time and have always respected how openly you stand up for social issues and inequality. that's actually why I wanted to reach out.

I found it a bit strange that there hasn't been any mention of the protests in Iran or the people there living without power, especially given how vocal you've been about other causes. I still support and respect you all. It just stood out to me. I asked this honestly because I've run into this issue myself in the past. I've supported certain causes while staying silent on others that are just as serious, and it's made me feel hypocritical at times.

my genuine question is how do you support the causes you care about without feeling guilty for not speaking on every issue especially when some tragedies get far less attention simply because they aren't as trendy much love regardless and thank you for everything you've put out over the years thank you you know why I haven't talked about it around that much

and we've definitely talked about it on this show we did last on this version of the show yeah it's because I don't know what the F is going on I know. I was going to say I'm not that educated on it. I know that the government there is an oppressive government. We know that. I know that the government there that's currently in power is only in power because the United States of America destabilized and manipulated the voting population there during Nixon. I know that. I know that the Shah that was there in power before this current administration that's there as an oppressive conservative orthodox.

Muslim regime, whatever the hell it is. Okay. Was also corrupt. And that's why people wanted the shaghan and ran him out of there before this thing. All right. The Ebro, the question wasn't Ebro, will you tell me everything you know about Iran? But that's why I haven't talked about it because I don't really know. Like, I don't know what's real, what's fake.

I don't know. Yeah, I'm with you and you, Laura. My understanding of it isn't great. That is in no way to diminish what is happening. to the people in Iran. And of course it's insane that our country is saying we're going to attack Iran. At least they were saying it went away, but we're going to attack Iran if they keep harming protesters. It's like they're stealing our gimmick. That's what we do. We harm and kill protesters. Well, that's another layer. Where do we even got room to talk? Yeah, I just I just think

we don't want to mess up. There is not some agenda to not talk about it at all. Well, and you know what else? And this applies to Cuba, Iran, and a lot of places around the world. When you listen to people in the United States America about the countries they fled from to come to the U.S., that obviously shapes how you feel about it. But when you do the history on it, oftentimes the people who left those places to come to America and were allowed into the United States was because the United States had an interest in whatever country that

was in making that country destabilized. So the people who came here have a view that's based on the U.S. filter. Right. And I can't trust that either. It makes it very complicated. Even

with the Venezuela stuff, it all Cuba, as you said, it always makes it complicated. Because you're like, oh wait, so you're against Cuba on the side of the U.S., but the U.S. is the reason that Cuba's suffering. Yeah. Okay, to answer the person's question, though,

I don't think anyone has to feel guilt about speaking out on some issues and not others. I think it would behoove all of us to do the work and pay attention and try to be able to speak out on all issues, but I think you also don't want to speak out on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. I agree. I agree.

And I think as our show evolves, we'll be bringing in some guests that are way more. educated in a lot of these subjects to break things down and make it easier for y'all. And it should be noted, even before this iteration of the Ibro-Laura Rosenberg experience. We had talked about Iran with regard

to the oppressive regime and even them abusing women for how they dressed in the streets and arresting people and the youth movements there. We've talked about all of that before. But once again, we have limited information. Right. So, don't

feel bad. I mean, and certainly don't take any judgment, please don't judge us for it. We're doing the best we can to stay up on the stuff that we know. Or judge us. Or judges, we'll try to work harder on it. You know what I'm saying? Judge us. Email us and we'll respond. That's right. All right. I hope that helps. So say the gurus.

How many emails do we actually have in the gurus these days? Are coming. Let's see. They have been coming. Let me look. Pause. Original gurus at gmail.com. Who decided on this? Four, five, six, seven, eight. I need to know.

I still have nine emails I haven't gotten to in the original gurus inbox. At gmail.com. That's right. Now, guys, tomorrow, after the program tomorrow, I'm off to Saudi Arabia. Oh, wow. I'm going to let you know how that trip goes, and I'm going to try to get on with us at the end of the week. Okay. They allow you on the Internet out there now.

You know, they're all up to the time. You know, they're having events. They allow people on the Internet. Women could go to the movies. They can drive cars. They can drive. Yeah, we're going to be outside. I'm taking the official airline of Saudi Arabia.

I thought I had to go to Toronto and get on the charter with WWE, but now I'm leaving directly from JFK, which I'm excited about. On Saudi air, you know what that means, guys, when you fly on Saudi, no booze on the plane, folks.

No booze on the plane. I'm not a big drinker on planes anyway. I don't do it either. I do. Listen, when it's business class, you know, I'm always trying to take advantage of what did you give me? Oh, wait, let me try.

Let me try what? What's the best drink? Let me try. Listen, I'm going to take advantage and free snacks. No, but I will say the food looks super interesting on this plane. I looked at it.

All the Saudi food they serve you looks pretty cool. The delicious teas, stuff like that, coffees. On any country's airline, on any country, like when you're like, oh, I'm going to jump on, pick a country. The Swiss air. Right, yeah.

Whatever. The food is amazing. Now, I dare you to jump on American. Yo. Hit yourself with the butt. Get a cold-ass turkey sandwich. Hit yourself with the butt. You plays yourself.

Anyway, bye, yeah, subscribe, subscribe. ELR show on Patreon, two kids. Just don't call it a podcast.