The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 24.) The Jay-Z Discussion, Both Sides Mad + Border Patrol Out of Minnesota (1/28/26)
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Oh, hold on.
I wasn't ready when you said it.
I wasn't ready for the...
To make the whole thing start.
Say, yeah, you got to say it like that.
One more time, makes it.
Well, now it's just getting annoying.
But...
Oh, see?
What's wrong?
We got plans, guys.
Plans on plans on plans.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I got to tell you about all the...
thousand conversations I had to have because we had a convo about Jay Z's discography.
People got offended.
Yeah, my wife.
She was offended?
She's like, he's your friend.
I'll tell you guys about it.
I'll tell you guys all about it.
And then there was definitely some interesting commentators in our comments.
I don't know if you saw.
I saw, but why do people make it seem like it's like it was coming after Jay Z?
It was literally just a discussion.
Well, that's what we're going to talk about today on the program.
And if you haven't subscribed to the Patreon, you're missing out on a great J.C.
Conversation, which I thought was, I didn't even think it was slanderous at all.
But you know what really offends people?
And you're all in denial.
Every single one of you listening right now, watching right now to the Ebro-Law-Rosvenor show.
Get my dancing music.
Get my goddamn dancing music.
Oh, gosh.
You're all in denial.
if you don't think you're out here doing the dance.
I think that's what really in the clip,
the reality that I'm doing the dance,
Laura's doing the dance,
Rosenberg's doing the dance.
What dance are we doing?
You're doing the dance.
Some dance, everybody's on a dance floor.
Somewhere at some time.
Now, are you dancing with the devil?
Maybe not, but you're doing a dance.
You're code switching.
You're making people comfortable.
you're putting on a costume so that you don't offend people,
you're dressing a certain way so that you can fit in.
You're doing all the dance.
We all do dances, man.
Like, it's not even that deep.
But what dance are we talking about at this exact moment?
Well, I'm talking about, well, which dance are you doing?
I mean, you're on your way to Saudi Arabia to do the day.
No, no.
Is that what you're talking about?
That has nothing to do what we're talking about.
No, we're talking about Jay Z.
He's in the clip of Jay Z.
We said he's doing the dance.
Right, right.
Okay, so you're saying.
to try to get on mainstream charts and get, you know, number one hits and collaborating with people because he wanted to do the dance.
He wanted to get out there and be a top star, a rock star.
I should probably explain this now before we have to deal with the next five years of Ebro going.
I don't know why anyone doesn't like this.
People aren't good.
People don't like that.
They don't like it.
No, the phrase specifically doing the dance, it's, is.
No, I get it.
No, let's just get this out of the way so we don't have every time I have to go, everyone does a dance.
They're going to be offended by doing the dance.
Let's just love to be offended by doing the dance.
Right?
I'm with you, but I didn't say that.
I said you're in denial if you're thinking you're not doing the dance.
Oh, right, right.
I just mean.
That's all I'm saying.
I know people are going to get in their feelings.
By the matter of fact, if you were paying attention,
I said I know why people are upset getting my dancing.
Oh, yeah, true.
It's because in the clip, we said he was doing a dance, but you're not listening.
Well, there were so many layers to doing the dance there.
I got confused.
And I was looking up the comments because I really hadn't seen.
I get a little bit frustrated.
and we talked about this yesterday, the day before, whatever it was,
with the inability to be able to have a conversation about anyone
that's not 100% ick-sucking,
it's like, yo, why, you got to come for him?
Well, so, no, but see, see, here's the other part.
This was the, the funniest part.
Then people that I know, and in the comments, a couple of people,
they were like, yo, y'all just clout chasing.
And I was like, yes, we're algorithm hustling.
We're having a conversation about,
the greatest rapper of all time and the maneuvers he had to make.
Some of them didn't land so good and in retrospect didn't look good, right?
Because he wanted to be the most dominant, biggest star ever in hip-hop.
He wanted to be the guy we call Ho.
So yes.
And oh, here's the other one.
I had a private conversation about this one.
Oh, my God.
Tarnish.
Why did you use the word tarnish?
Oh, my.
I was like, I mean, well, he's gold, so I guess technically I can't.
He's the gold standard, so I guess technically I can't say tarnish because gold doesn't
charge.
I can't.
Listen, you know what?
I'm, it's.
This is one thing I will say.
This is what I will say.
And I'm glad people love Jay-Z.
That's what really landed for me.
And I think also.
But we love Jay-Z.
I think they're also, though.
We're haters, ma'am.
I think the people that love Jay-Z are.
also so used to the people who hate Jay-Z that when they see the convoy, they go,
oh, here we go, more people.
Bro, if you're, if you, if, if I can't sit here and talk about Tom Brady, you know,
not being able to scramble or like one of the things that made Tom Brady great is that
he's the greatest of all time, but he's not really the best quarterback of all time,
but he's the greatest of all time.
If I can't have these conversations, so we just, so we just can't talk about him.
He's the greatest.
He's the greatest.
He's right.
That's why.
So that's what I almost did.
I almost spazzed on somebody yesterday.
It was like, so we can't talk about Jayze?
No, we can't.
We can't talk about the things we love and don't love about Jayzy.
That can't happen.
I'm wearing a Larry David, uh, Kith shirt right now.
I can't point out the seasons that weren't my favorite when I'm like,
oh, I kind of felt like that year was a little weird.
What, no, if you, not if you love him.
Not if you think he's the greatest.
You know, every year was great.
It, come on, br, bro.
Come on.
But you know people do this with a lot of things.
People do this with a lot of things, Lord Stoules.
Yeah.
People do it with the United States of America.
Oh, I mean, just leave it.
I mean, why don't you just leave?
They're like, no, no, no.
I actually love it.
Which is why I'm being critical of certain things.
Oh, I mean, you must be being anti-Semitic talking about Israel like that.
No.
No.
No, actually, I'm just critiquing one of the more powerful.
powerful nations on the planet.
That's an ally of the country I live in that my tax dollars go to.
I think I have a right to do that.
I think I could be critical of the government.
How dare you?
I bought Jay-Z.
As I said in the clip, I bought Reasonable Doubt day one.
I'm not allowed.
I don't earn a pass from being there from the very beginning in 96.
Because there aren't that many people who can analyze it over a period of the inside.
You have to love him to be able to analyze.
the whole 30 years.
We can't do that.
How about this?
How about this?
Jay-Z himself
has even publicly said there's albums of his
that he didn't really like that much
or that weren't his best work.
Himself.
Yeah, but he's allowed to say that.
Right?
I mean, that's really what it comes out to.
We're just not allowed.
Hit me with the button, man.
This is, I don't understand.
It was a good time, though.
Congratulations.
People love Jay-Zis.
You love that.
And I'm so happy for us to have such a thing that we can.
And look, I don't think any of the conversations I had were, you know, like, you know, that dramatic.
The most dramatic and surprising was my wife.
What was she saying?
She was like, isn't he your friend?
Isn't he your friend?
Like, you guys are like, cool.
Why would you say he was doing the dance?
She also.
You said, Sean, he's doing the dance.
I mean, with respect to your relationship with Jay's.
Z. I think you're closer to
Sean. My response to her was, I said
Rosenberg was doing the dance.
Yeah. I said
I'm doing the dance from time to time.
We all do the dance. She's like,
yeah, but I was like, if you
don't stop it.
What was a but though? Yeah, but.
Did she have one? I think she just
probably was like thinking,
you know, he's Jay-Z.
Same thing everybody else is thinking.
He's Jay-Z. Why would you publicly
be critical of somebody who's so great
that you love and that loves you back and that you're friends with.
It's probably the combo of all.
My wife does this a lot when I talk about something.
She'll be like, you know them.
And I'm like, Nat, this is what the job is.
Sometimes you say things and people won't like you for it.
And if they're really that sensitive and can't, like, it's one thing to be mean.
It's one thing to attack people and call them out the game.
We were not mean.
But by the way, we weren't mean.
It didn't even cross my mind of being mean.
Like, although, you know, listen.
Jay Z.
Like I said,
Jay Z will see things
and Jay Z will pick up the phone
and let you know how he feel.
You just want to go back to the dancing music
over and over again?
You sure that's what?
Evidence suggests.
This is the part that pisses people off.
Because the dancing,
that's offensive.
That's what got me and Stephen A and I.
It's just a light little shoulder, though.
Yeah, but it's the idea that you're dancing,
almost like you're putting on a show for people.
And the song.
You're soft shoeing.
But the truth of the matter is,
We all softs you, man.
We soft shoe at work.
Yo, if you live in a building, you got a neighbor.
You want to punch in the face.
And guess what?
You're doing the dance when you don't punch him in the face.
That's doing the dance technically.
You want to punch him in the face.
You know you do.
Yeah.
But nope.
But nope, you're on the elevator with him,
and you just sit quiet.
You don't even engage.
You don't even start an argument.
I just, the thing that may be.
Maybe a good morning.
You might throw, you might even say good morning to them.
And you hate the,
The frustrating part is, though, within hip-hop, it really is that this has always been an annoying thing in hip-hop.
You really, you struggle to get into the fun conversations because people, as much as, you know, you wouldn't think they're like that, people are really sensitive.
Well, and you can't even have nuanced combo.
Especially with the internet, though.
I think the internet is a special place.
Yeah, it made it much worse.
If you say you like oranges, what about apples?
You know what I mean?
It's always the thing.
Like, you can't say anything.
I saw people saying in the comments like,
I still like, Jay-Z.
What makes you think we don't?
Well, maybe because the way things are edited,
people don't actually subscribe to our Patreon,
check for it, the ELR show on Patreon.
So they haven't heard the whole combo.
They assume the clip is the combo.
And that's, that's, you know,
congratulations.
You play yourself.
That's our promotion.
And we allow edits to go out without review,
and the guy editing our stuff is an avid reality show watcher
of trash television and love.
to do salacious things.
Well, I mean, that is what you're tasking with,
with trying to get people to, you know, click the videos.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
I'm just giving people, but I mean, this one, you did play.
When you, um, oh, yeah, you're forgetting the part, too.
When we played the music, you started singing.
I know what girls like over the dance music.
Yeah, that's going to hit people with.
Congratulations.
You played yourself.
No, it's going to hit people.
He did a funky sunshine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was all, you know, I'm just looking at it right now.
People are so.
It is what it is.
What about you?
As a kid under 10, growing up, we liked these songs.
That's how you know they were bad songs.
Congratulations.
You played yourself.
And by the way, we weren't even saying that they were bad.
Right, but that's what we meant by.
And we didn't even get into, we didn't even get into Empire State of Mind.
I left that alone.
Empire State of Mind special.
I don't hate Empire State of Mind as much as you, too.
Yeah, I don't hate it either.
I love what it represents.
I love.
There's things about, you know, about this verse that you make you go, come on, man.
But there's some, come on, man.
Yagie, yeah.
Like a Yagie can.
There's just some things about that are weird.
It does not my favorite.
No, but listen, I love the record that I love both people on the record.
Well, I like to be you guys know I prefer the Alicia Keys slow joint.
Oh, you do like that.
That's a fine.
That's the one.
I mean, listen, the chorus is great, but also, like, the drums in the Empire State of Mine are annoying.
It's just like the whole thing is not for.
me um even though yeah obviously you hear it in the right moment you go oh man i love living here
this is great but listen maybe the people that was in the comments subscribe to the patreon
maybe it worked did we get any subscriptions this is the worst take y'all ever had oh that's right there
you don't pay enough attention if you think that's the word no if you think that's the worst take
that just shows me you don't listen what what now what now rassan's offended well you just went
after him well because he said that he you know the the the
it was three minutes long and you know blah blah blah and no we did we did go up yeah he actually
he did make it a long clip to give it some more context he did there is context here he did
he said I shot a ward yeah and I got it's you know he he he did he actually gave it a lot
of context it's a long clip I wonder people even watch the whole clip how about that they didn't
no no they didn't there was something else there was something else we posted um about um
about I think it was uh Alex Pretti no was that
it.
It was another clip.
Yeah, the clip that was out about empathy.
Was that what it was?
Yeah, about like how a lot of us have been feeling overwhelmed emotionally because of all
the chaos happening in the world.
And people had a problem with that?
People had a problem.
But also the Jim Jones.
The Jim Jones.
The Jim Jones' Jim, Kid Cuddy, Instagram.
I'm looking at the comments now of people who just didn't listen to the entire clip.
where you basically said it was both, right?
Where we were talking about, people were like,
I didn't even know that Jim Jones,
and you were like, and we were talking about
different ecosystems in the clip.
The fact that things happened differently
in different places,
and they were like, I didn't even know that took place, no.
And you're like, well, but it did.
Honestly, and you didn't know.
I'm gonna be so annoyed.
I'm gonna be so annoyed.
I'm gonna end up posting another clip today.
Isn't it make me post another clip?
Oh, God.
About what, the Jim Jones.
No, no, about going through all these comments.
the fact that you were like the fact that people can't recognize that there are jZ haters out there
who suck who diminish the greatest or very close to the greatest of all time and then there are people
who love him and want to nerd out and have conversations about him and dissect what was the best
and what wasn't and you can't even do that because y'all can't read or listen to things or have
any sort of attention span you just got to get to the comment quick see if your comment can get
likes like like what are y'all talking about i'm just looking at and seeing how many people
nasty i don't even know if they nasty take nasty
you guys don't know what nasty takes are we because we well i don't even know if people in that
comment it was because they wanted to get their comment liked as you asserted no no you're
right they're they're triggered emotional and they just jump right in but that's the world man
that is the world we got to get used to that you hit hit us with the button for complaining about
Congratulations, you played yourself.
You just can't worry about it.
And making people feel something.
But I definitely admitted to algorithm hustling.
When they were like, you just posted that.
I was like, anything I post is to get a reaction.
That's the whole thing you post on.
The whole reason you pull.
Someone wrote, someone wrote,
nah, I don't know what y'all are talking about.
That was a solid hood love song.
My ex in school used to be like,
if I needed, would you give me your kidneys?
And I'd say, for show.
congratulations you plagued yourself you think that was an argument point you think that's good for you
that scored points for you it means something one that's listen people feelings feelings are facts
to people you know that right right yeah people confuse feelings and facts and since we're talking
about art it's hard to really you know we're critiquing art so it's hard to really like land on a fact
unless you're going to use chart that hating on j z was a
sport now.
Aiding on Jay-Z.
I hate it.
Yo, it breaks my heart.
It breaks my heart.
Hit me with the buddy.
Congratulations.
You plagued yourself.
Y'all actually hurt my feelings.
That you received, that you received that Jay-Z conversation.
Well, and it's annoying that not only do you know, like, you risk artists getting sensitive,
but the fact that fans can't hear a conversation is really mind-numbing to me.
Because, like, we can get down.
Ebro, there's not an artist we could talk about, not one,
that I won't be able to point out some missteps
or things that aren't my favorite about what they do.
If you're someone who truly enjoys an art form,
you enjoy getting into all that stuff.
Well, and also someone that took as many risks
because he was great as Jay-Z.
Well, and someone who was just so big and, yeah,
and was kind of had to keep trying to do stuff.
But, like, y'all are going to,
What to break barriers.
To break barriers for hip hop, like to legitimately do new things for hip hop,
risks had to be taken.
I just put up a post the other day about how I came a long way about a volume one.
I've grown.
It's not good enough.
Hit yourself with the buddy.
Congratulations.
You played yourself.
No, I heard you.
Nobody saw that because it was positive.
It was positive.
It was positive.
It was positive.
So the algorithm didn't even move more.
No, it actually got, it actually did really well.
People really got.
But you know what?
They probably still took.
took his hate. Like, damn, you, a lot of the comments were like, it took you this long.
Why, why didn't you need? Yo, man, I can't, you know what.
I, bro, why did you bring this up? Because I figured it would be a new conversation.
But I'm annoyed about it. I can't even have hip-hop conversation. And you had to hear from real people,
which means Jay-Z probably heard about it too. And Jay-Z was probably like, oh, these A-Holes go again,
not respecting me.
Come on, bro.
So do we owe them a public apology?
What? Should we do it? Is it time?
Should we look? Do we have music for a problem? I don't have that in my system yet.
Damn. I got to like get something sad.
What are you going to say? I'm sorry for having discussion. I'm sorry for critiquing.
I'm sorry for having an opinion. That has a little bit of no. No, I would not be the if it just had if it just had the
then there'd be something once the drums come here. Jayze. You know what I need? I need. I need the stand. I need the M&M
Sten. Pencil writing. Pencil circle.
You know, that's right around the same time.
45 King did Hard Knock Life.
See, there you go. Boom. Way to side together. Hip hop nerd style.
Man. You know what if we? There's so many, so many artists. Oh, it's just ruins it.
You know what? It makes me want to do more, you, bro. We should do a segment called complaining
about our favorite rappers. I love it. Complaint. You want to hear what I can tell you all the
things I don't like. Who's on your list? Who's on your list? Everybody. If you were to complain about
your favorite rappers.
Who's that who's like top?
So we already did Jay-Z who you're gonna do
you have to do. Noz. Oh. I got a lot
on us. I got a lot on Nas.
Lots. I love him. I love it.
He's one of the all-time. Listen, his first album
was arguably the greatest album of all time. So guess
what? That's a high standard.
And we didn't always hit it. Yo.
And you know what though? Would it actually
just clicked in my brain. If we put Pac on
that list and gave a head to something that we're going to
critique too about. Oh, man.
Oh, everything will blow up.
Oh, no. Now, listen. They might
protest. They might protest. They try to get us fired again.
They would try to get us fired again. They'd be like, can we get you fired from your own show?
Now, Rosenberg, open up your browser on you on your, on your computer. And I want you to look up
Mississippi rapper, Notorious B1. This has been circulating on the internet. I don't know. I don't
if this is AI. I don't know if people are
playing games. I don't know if this was a thing
back then. I've never heard
this before. We definitely knew
that the name Biggie Smalls
was a
white kid and so that's why he had to go
to the notorious B1.
Yeah, yeah.
Have we talked about Notorious B1?
Like we have.
I don't know, but I saw it too
Ebra. It just started circulating again.
Yeah, I saw some people
covering there. In shambles
because...
Oh, this is the issue.
Biggie.
Oh, yeah, this is very similar.
Yeah, this is similar.
Did we talk about this?
I...
I feel like we have.
Can you play it from where you are?
Do you got to send it over to production to get it?
I might be able to play.
Give me a minute.
I'll can play it off my phone.
Yeah. Notorious B-1.
So you have...
Big Daddy is the one Big Daddy.
I don't know the name of the record.
Is it Mississippi something?
I think Big Daddy is the big one that comes up first.
So why did this come up again?
It's that it sounds like Biggie.
It's like it sounds like Puff found this and stole Biggie stuff, right?
Right, because and then everyone's blaming Puff in the combo in the convo or comments
because they're like Big didn't even want to do juicy and Puff did.
So everybody's blaming Puff.
All right.
I think we got it.
So and it reportedly came out of course.
According to Wikipedia, November 23rd, 1993.
Yeah.
And Juicy came out August 1994.
Yep.
So that's the story people are in shambles about.
And I knew we had talked about, you know, big and Biggie Smalls and him changing his name.
I didn't know we had gone over the notorious B1.
I don't remember if it was here or one F, but I know I've talked about it.
I know I was like, oh, I didn't know about this.
So has the artist B1?
He definitely came out and was like, yo, they stole my record.
Was he ever vocal about it?
I don't know anybody know.
Do anybody know this guy?
Is he around?
I don't know.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Notorious B1, Mississippi-based rapper name, Notorious B1 was active for
an early nights.
He allegedly in more recent years that his name,
he alleged in more recent years that his name was stolen,
implying that is specific different artists.
He's still alive.
It looks like DJ Vlad interviewed him at some point, I think.
You know, you know, Vlad ain't missing that opportunity.
No way.
It's actually, it's an interesting interview.
No, that's, that's, listen, I get credit what Curtis do.
No, it's not Vlad.
Wait, is it Vlad?
Let me see.
I can't tell.
No, it looks like it's on a website.
Gulfport, Mississippi is where he's from.
Okay.
Here it is in 2022.
On the art of dialogue, he's talking.
Okay.
But I thought that was interesting.
I thought that was interesting for the audience.
What do you guys feel in the chat?
You guys feel like Puff stole that joint, had Biggie Rap over Juicy?
What's, I think the name Notorious B1 is more, I don't know, strikes me as more incendiary as like a talk point than sampling juicy.
for sure even even to the point in my opinion even to the point that if he straight up heard that record
and was like yo we should do we should use that and do it better i don't even really have a problem
with that it's whatever the the the more problematic thing and i'm looking up the actual record now
in discogs and looking at it and there it is notorious be one name the name the way it looks
The writing of the name.
That notorious B.
I mean, it's shady.
It's shady.
Notorious B is, that's bad.
I'm being honest, that's bad.
And according to what I just read,
the name and the song.
The name and the song is all bad.
Come on, come on.
But the, even the guy, according to the internet,
is talking about his name being stolen,
more than he's talking about, you know, sound
or any of that kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I'll tell you what nobody's going to say.
Nobody's going to say big got his style from this guy.
Nobody's going to say that.
Would they actually say that?
No, no, no, no.
And they're not even, that guy's not a good rapper.
I mean, he's just not talented.
That was not good music.
I'm just being, I'm, guys.
He's all right.
I mean, not good.
No, are we going to offend the B1 hive?
Are they going to start coming from me?
Uh-oh, let me get ready.
Listen, you better be careful.
All right.
Yeah, hit yourself with the button
because you never know who's moving out of you.
You might have a whole fan account.
I'm gonna step on.
He might have paid for box.
I'm stepping out on a limb.
Uh-oh, here we go.
And I am willing to state
that Biggie Smalls
was a better and more talented rapper
than notorious B1.
Hold that, write it down, take a picture.
I believe that in my heart and soul.
But I also believe, think about it like this,
they knew they couldn't do Biggie's
Smalls. At some point
they were like, we can't keep calling you Biggie Smalls.
This isn't working. We got to come up
with something before we drop your ish
officially. Because I'm pretty
sure on the Who's the Man
soundtrack, it said Biggie Smalls.
Right. Right. It did.
And then we... And they got sued for it.
And so now we got to make... We got to make
a change.
I feel like I met the kid in the 90s that was Biggie Smalls. I feel like I
interviewed that kid. The skinny white guy.
Yeah.
Skinny white kid.
I got to reach out to my dude, Davey D, who I was doing the show with at the time.
See if he remembers.
So I'm just trying to see, nothing.
This could list his feature?
It doesn't list.
When you go on discogs and look him up under the name Biggie Smalls, nothing.
He's not dead.
No, it's there, but nothing officially pops up as a release.
What was he called?
What was he called on the Who's the Man?
No, they probably changed.
They probably changed all that stuff.
Party and they might have changed it.
I could see it happening.
Oh, no, no.
Party and bullshit was under B-I-G.
B-I-G, okay.
But even, but right, Notorious B-1
and the notorious B-I-G, you're clean right there.
Nice.
But the notorious part is the, where you go.
Why were you, why?
Because I clearly remember going,
how did they get notorious B-I-G?
I never even like that.
Me neither.
And when people say it, it makes you cringe.
I don't even think I say it.
It's borderline.
It's borderline 50 cent.
When people say Notorious B-I-G.
You're like, you really call him Notorious B-I-G?
Nice.
You sound crazy.
You have to be a white girl who found him late.
Sorry, Laura.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
I just could see it.
I could see somebody stumbling upon B-1, Notorious B-1.
And be like, this is good.
Check this out.
You know what I mean?
and be quote unquote inspired by it?
Nah, it's, it happened.
This is definitely.
It had, no, it happened.
There's no way around it, guys.
It happened.
Can we get puff on the show?
We need this.
After everything we've said,
and the fact that he's probably not taking phone calls,
I say no.
Probably not.
You, Griff, make the call.
You'll consider, that's going to,
oh, we got a new t-shirt, folks.
I come calling it early.
What?
Yo, Griff, make the call.
About anyone.
People do you use?
know perfectly well he doesn't have a line on that's right
you're saying if j z people are offended that we said sunshine and i know what girls
like aren't dope you think that huff and his people might not like us our coverage of
what he's done i would i would go out on the limb here hang on i think i think i i'd go as far
as to say we're highly disliked really that's a shame yeah
Yes. On both sides.
Really?
There's people who thought we covered for,
you know there's people who thought we didn't go hard enough
on the Combs,
Sean Diddy Puffy Combs situation.
And then you got people who thought we went too hard.
No, we can't make anyone happy.
This is why we currently do the ELR show
for just our tens of thousands of fans right here on the YouTube
and you can subscribe to the Patreon.
I guess you're right.
is because we can't make anybody happen.
We struggle to make anybody happen.
Yeah.
No, is that?
No matter what you do.
We're not white enough.
We're not black enough.
We're not, we're not progressive enough.
We're not maga.
We're just right here in the middle.
Pick aside.
I don't even think we're in the middle.
We're not.
We're not.
I'm joking.
I don't know.
Whenever anybody says that, like, oh, yeah, I didn't hear you guys talk about that.
I might do you listen to it before.
I used to be like, do you listen to all four hours?
Nope.
Do you tune in for multiple hours?
Yo, they have.
And they're like, oh, ow.
They don't listen, bro.
They don't listen.
But hopefully they listen to this.
The rundown with Laura Stav.
Laura got the rundown.
Turn that up.
Hey.
When she pulls up, headlines heavy, but we still cut up.
Life still flashing.
We don't slow up.
Don't slow up, Laura Stiles.
All right.
Well, there's a couple things we haven't got to.
You know, a lot of tours have been announced.
Oh, talk to us.
People are very excited.
Did you guys see Summer Walker is going on tour?
Still finally over it.
Okay.
It's the trilogy tour with all of her albums.
All right.
And she's taking Manaleo and O'Dill.
All right.
Let's go.
I saw, you know, that artist O'Dia, I saw his tiny desk.
Yeah, dope.
He's dope.
No, O'Dill is phenomenal, bro.
He's dope.
So I really enjoy it.
Oh deal is the real deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so Summer Walker is officially going on tour.
People are very excited about that.
All right. Another tour is Kid Cuddy.
Okay, wait.
I thought he was doing comedy now or something.
Well, he's going on tour.
Okay.
So is Kid Cuddy and the Rebel Rangers tour.
That's happening.
He'll be joined by Big Boy and MIA.
You think he's bringing out Jim Jones for the Jim Jones mix of day and night?
I'm going to step out on another limb and say I doubt it.
Oh, man.
It was cool.
I saw A-track because A-track is going to join him on a couple of the stops
and that's the genius.
So it should be super dope.
I really did you see A-track,
but just posting like old pictures of them and like telling stories?
So I thought that was pretty fire.
Very dope.
You guys think we could get Cuddy on the show?
I do.
I think so.
I think so.
If he comes to town, we could get him.
I mean, I think so.
I stay in touch with Cuddy.
I think you do it,
especially he's a nice gentleman i love cuddie especially to talk about like you know fun stuff i think he's got
he don't think he's gonna want to go to want to recount what happened between cassie and all right you don't
probably not just you're saying that you just lost the interview just praise
damn damn me bro i'm always botching it you know the the talk you know people are really especially
like fans were sad to see that chad and feral
We're just not on great terms.
Chad is suing Farrell, but I guess Farrell decided to have a response.
I mean, you know, I knew it was going to go like that.
It was a statement to Billboard, and he said, well, not Farrell, but his team said, look,
a standard accounting review is already in progress.
The lawsuit filed is premature.
And there may not even be a dispute between parties.
So if the accounting review determines that money is owed, then party will pay.
And they said, Farrell has consistently acted in good faith.
He has great respect for Chad and looks forward to resolving this in a way that honors their shared history.
Oh, I'm glad they said that because even yesterday when we covered it, that's why I threw it, or what was that, two days ago, whatever it was.
That's why I threw it to you, Rosenberg, about publishing lawsuits because I thought, you know, with your brother being in the legal field, you maybe had more insight to me.
But like, these forensic accounting kind of like, quote-unquote lawsuits where people get their lawyers and their accountants to go through.
through people's books from the past to shake the trees and find out if there's any money owed.
That's super standard in the music business.
And so I didn't know, based on behind the scenes talk, I've never heard that Chad and Farrell
are at personal odds.
I've never heard that.
I mean, I knew they weren't on the best terms.
I heard it's definitely not great.
Yeah, but I didn't think it would get to this.
So, and so, okay, you guys heard differently than me.
But then on top of that, I just assumed that this was like,
Chad was like, yo, I might be owed some money.
Because I definitely know songwriters who are like,
yo, open up your books.
I think you owe some money.
And it's not because there's beef.
It's because that's just how the business works when you're doing publishing collection.
I'm going to step out on another limb.
Based on our famous conversation with Chad, which you missed.
Yeah.
I think things are probably weird.
That's my guess.
That was probably one of the weirdest interviews.
Or weird because there's actually a problem.
Sometimes people are just weird.
No, no, no.
I think I think Chad being weird may make things weird.
But you don't think Farrell has disdain for him.
I think it may make things hard though.
Because that conversation we had, and again, I'm trying to be respectful and don't want to, you know, everyone, God knows, I don't want anyone to be hurt over this.
but yeah he was communicating with him was just like this is a very unique experience so you can go back and watch it it was a very unique experience and you know I have nothing about their business but knowing that they always had great love and admiration for each other things going left wouldn't all together surprise me I guess
Yeah, I just wish
Like his team would have reached out to his team and they just kind of resolved it
Well, it sounds like they did based on the statement
They were already in progress
They're reviewing it now
But it's after like the headlines
In progress
It said it was an actual lawsuit that took place
Right, but Laura it literally says
And the thing that you read
Yes
That this is premature because we're already doing
There is no lawsuit
We're already going through the documents
I just, what I'm trying to say is that we just didn't need to know about it.
They could have done it amongst themselves.
But if what Rosenberg is saying about weird behavior, then somebody wanted this to be public.
Somebody wanted this to be covered in the rundown with Laura Stiles.
I hate it.
But hopefully they resolve it and hopefully, you know, if there's money owed, it will get to where it needs to be.
Here we are.
It's blood in the water.
That's right.
That's right.
Oh, God.
yes, that's it for the rundown. Do you have any
lowdown? No. Oh, wow.
I don't want to take you to hell. Why?
No. That's what the people want. I don't want to.
It's time for the lowdown.
Oh, it's so bad.
Well, then I'll use the rundown.
Give me the lowdown. The lowdown. Or the lowdown. I'll use the lowdown time
because we haven't got to it on today's show and we didn't get to it yesterday.
The guy dressed up as the Nazi who's dressed up as the
character from the Tiana Taylor movie.
Yeah, yeah. He got booted out of Minneapolis.
They're making him fall on the sword and acting like he mismanaged this whole thing to
kind of act like he's the bad guy. And Christy Noem.
Is she out?
They, Christy Noem.
It's official?
They're both being replaced as I understand it by Tom Holman. That's how I understand it.
And she had to run back on Monday night.
On Monday night, she had a meeting with Trump.
for two hours in the Oval Office.
Christy Noem did.
And so Trump and him was going to act like they didn't know that this was the energy that they were putting out and that ICE was moving around with.
That's what, yo, hit the F out of here.
Hit the other button.
I saw a report that I guess Trump has been watching the coverage of all of this and he's really upset because it's not making a point.
Well, no, no, for sure.
But wouldn't you imagine if you're Trump and you have no human feelings whatsoever?
all you care about is how something looks.
On Fox News, people are going, people are saying,
this should never have happened.
This is wrong.
The NRA, mad Republicans are coming out.
The private meeting with Christy Knoem was like this.
I told you you could do whatever you wanted,
except make it look like you're doing whatever you wanted.
You shot him in the back.
10 times.
No, no, no, no.
You didn't shoot him in the back.
You murdered a white man who's an ICU nurse from a VA hospital who had a legal gun.
And there's video of your agents taking the gun out of his waistband so he didn't have it before you shot him in the back.
And a veteran.
Oh, and oh, by the way, he's a white man with no criminal record.
And a veteran.
And in the back, he was clear.
really, yo, this
was such, this is such a crazy one
to watch unfold over the last several
days. Because when you, have you
watched like the New York Times that is slow
a five minute breakdown
of every second that happened?
Yeah. Yo, the guy
who shoots him the first
bunch of times, because like three people
shot him.
The guy who shoots him first
is engaged
with the woman who he was trying
to help. He's, he's dealing.
with her. He's trying to spray her with the canister. His canister stops working. You see him like,
oh, it's not working. So he just turns around back to Alex Pretty and starts hitting him
with the... No, that's another one who's hitting him with the canister. But this guy, he turns around,
and within five seconds of joining that scene, within five seconds, he killed him. But he wasn't even
watching him. He was dealing with something else.
It was so bad that, yeah, they've now had to squirm because actually, you know,
they made a real mistake if they wanted to get to just keep killing people.
Because this, this real, they did it so blatantly.
They had to at least have enough questionable, you know, doubt like they did with Renee Good.
Oh, she was driving the car.
He showed her right in the face.
No, no problem.
Shoot her in a face a bunch of times.
Not a big deal.
She hit him.
He had internal bleak.
They were coming up.
They made it all of them.
They made it all of them.
But this guy, to Ebro's point, white, veteran, legal gun owner, the heart of the Republican
party.
He follows the rules.
They can't.
The only thing they love a lot of these people more than a Republican or maybe even racism,
some of them, is their gun.
They love their gun.
Right.
And he did, Ebro, he did it right.
You're allowed to do that.
You can't then turn around and say, you can't.
can't do that.
So, well, and they're so, they're so uninformed about the Constitution of policies in America
that they, government officials, Christy Knoem and the dude dressed up as the guy from the
Tiana Taylor movie who's dressed up.
No.
Yes.
What's his name?
Bavino.
They're so, they got up at podium, speaking on behalf of the government, talking about people
bringing guns to protests.
legal gun owners are allowed to do that.
Right.
In Minneapolis, in Minnesota.
Right.
They're like, we're not going to harm anyone.
We're not allowed to protect us out.
Did you see the governor, the Republican governor candidate?
Oh, pulled out.
He stepped down.
He stepped down.
He was like, I don't want to be.
I'm out.
Yeah, do you see that, Laura, a couple days ago?
He said, I can't even represent for the national Republicans.
I can't do this.
I saw, and I also saw an interview with Christy Noam.
I don't remember on,
what platform.
But they straight up ask her.
They're like, they say it.
They shot him after they took his gun away.
And she's like, well, you know, that's why we're investigating every little thing.
I can't comment on it.
We're investigating and we'll give you the answers.
Nobody believes you.
Nobody believes you.
This looks really, really bad.
Really, really bad.
I think, Rassan, can you run the video of Chris Medell, I think his name is from at the
Gen El Ren?
I think we have video of the Republican guy who stepped down.
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but today I announced the end of my campaign.
I have two primary reasons for this decision.
Number one, I cannot support the National Republican stated retribution
on the citizens of our state,
nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so.
I support the originally stated goals of Immigrations
and Customs Enforcement's Operation Metro Surge
in locating and deporting the worst of the worst from our state,
and I've seen many examples of ICE arresting non-U.S. citizens in Minnesota convicted of serious crimes,
including murder, rape, and child sexual assault. No reasonable person should want these people here,
and I am glad that they are gone. But Operation Metro Surge has expanded far beyond its stated focus
on true public safety threats. United States citizens, particularly those of color, live in fear.
United States citizens are carrying papers to prove their citizenship. That's wrong.
ISIS authorizes agents to raid homes using a civil warrant that need only be signed by a border
patrol agent that's unconstitutional and it's wrong.
Weaponizing criminal investigations against political opponents is unconstitutional,
regardless of who is in power. Republicans and Democrats alike have engaged in this
misconduct, and both must be held to the same standard. They need to do better.
And I have read about and I have spoken to countless United States citizens who have been
detained in Minnesota due to the color of their skin. I personally have spoken to several
law enforcement officers, some Hispanic and some Asian, who have been pulled over by ICE on pretextual
stops. Driving while Hispanic is not a crime.
Either is driving while Asian.
At the end of the day, I have to look my daughters in the eye and tell them, I believe I did what was right.
And I am doing that today.
I will say, we live in a time where the standard is so low that to see someone who even identifies the Republican, saying racism is wrong is refreshing.
I know.
You're like, wow, he's not totally okay with racism.
He thinks they shouldn't do this, and he's actually stepping away from it.
However, however, he's so blind, so blind that he didn't know that the plans to run around and grab millions of people and deport them was going to lead to this.
This is where I can't all the way believe.
Right.
I know.
It gets hard.
This was talked about, and how come I knew that this was going to go this way?
I know.
And you didn't.
That's why I don't believe you.
You're a liar.
I don't know if you're a liar.
No.
I just saw Breaking News,
ICE agents to help with security
at Winter Olympics in Italy.
What could go wrong?
That's a great look.
That's a great look for us.
I want them representing the U.S. in Italy.
That's a good look.
What could go wrong?
Wait, way, that was the lowdown.
That was low.
That was low.
That was low.
Can I get the music one more time?
just because I love it.
You were right about the music.
I give credit where credit is due to this joint right here.
Shot to hot rod rig.
Time for the lowdown with Laura Stey.
Now, the question I have moving forward,
was that the right place to do the lowdown?
Was that considered lowdown?
I mean, it was lowdown dirty.
I mean, killing a man, killing a man in the streets.
Minneapolis is lowdown dirty.
I just want to hear the music.
You can put anything.
Slow down.
What America's going through is a lowdown dirty shame.
It is.
It's sad.
See, that's the thing, though, hearing the Hot Rod Rick version
is what makes me think is the rundown
to like, we're on hip-hop radio.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the lowdown one hits like,
this is the new era of us.
We just play some random sounding like some.
Just fires.
Now, granted, I'm sure it's AI,
but this joint is flames.
You don't think hot rod Rick went out and got a lounge singer
and did a studio session and they'll get on.
I'm stepping out.
again for the third time on this Wednesday.
How dare you?
But I like it.
I like it.
It fits the vibe of where we're at right now.
Before we get into the original gurus with Laura Stiles Rosenberg and myself, I want to go to ESPN's on Rosenberg.
It's on his way to Saudi Arabia for some, to Riyadh for some W.W.E shenanigans, which hopefully we'll get a check in.
I'm trying.
But before we do that, the Super Bowl is set, my God.
We haven't covered that all week.
Yeah, the Super Bowl is set, buddy.
Since who's in it?
Oh, let's see you have the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks.
Yeah.
I'm happy for Seattle.
I can't lie.
No, no, no, no.
I'm happy for Seattle.
I said earlier on one of our programs that I was happy to see New England
trending the way there, which was odd for me.
Hit me with the...
Congratulations.
You played yourself.
I don't know why, man.
It's like Stockholm.
Yeah, that doesn't sound...
I don't even know what you're saying.
You want to see the...
You want to see the...
oppressor succeed.
I'm good.
I'm good on both these teams.
This is super boring.
Wait, what's your deal?
What's your, I like the Seahawks.
Why not like the Seahawks?
I like Seattle.
I like the Seahawks.
I'm happy for McLeodmore.
I'm happy for my friend Eddie Francis.
Listen, I'm happy for McLeodemore.
That sounds great.
You know, listen, I know a lot of Patriots fans.
I'm not happy for any of them.
Well, don't you want to see Seattle win?
I, yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
You're not happy for Cardi?
Yo, Cardi.
Yo, no, we didn't,
talk about this.
Yo.
Wait. No, this is important.
This is still there.
Oh, I think I know you're going.
How did not show Cardi B
one time at the championship game?
Oh.
Was she there? She was there.
100% was there.
Racist. That has to be.
We get all
that constant
Taylor Swift. If we don't get
Cardi at the Super Bowl,
I'm going to be livid.
This is crazy. You know how much more interesting
she is to see.
I want to see her cursing and throwing nachos.
Yeah, but that's not what your middle American counterparts want to see.
They don't want to highlight Cardi B.
They don't want to help Cardi B.
She's not, she's not, you know, blonde-haired.
Well, Cardi, put on some blonde-haired.
You know what I'm saying?
She's, you know, she represents a segment of the population.
She's an immigrant.
Ooh.
Can't have that.
Can't have that.
Can't have that.
Is Cardi immigrant?
Yeah.
Her parents.
I mean, her parents are.
I think she's born.
I meant child of him.
God,
because as of now,
being born in the country,
as of now,
it still makes you a sense.
Yeah.
So she was like,
she got really excited
and was like,
no,
obviously excited for her man.
And at one point,
I think she called the little four-year-girls
and she was like,
oh my God,
it's a little girl.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yo,
you know,
you got to calm down,
Cardi.
This is why,
this is the excuse they're going to.
Congratulations.
Well,
they don't put yourself.
They're trying to job.
And that's why they won't put it on TV.
She called the four-year-old girl.
I can tell you, man, this is Super Bowl's.
That might be a skippable game if you're offset right now.
You may not be watching the Super Bowl.
Oh, man.
And offset, you stole me $5,000 from the last game when we were sitting there with Taylor Swift and ice spice.
They're not there.
Yo, Ebro.
I need an Ebro name drop button, too, when he just casually drops being at the Super Bowl with Taylor Swift.
I'd please, Griff, help me come up with what that is.
Griff, get on the phone.
What's the line?
You,
Griff make the call.
You, Griff, make the call.
But, yeah, no, that's tough.
Like, just from a human standpoint,
like, remove all the drama from it.
Regular human standpoint.
Your girl has a new man,
happens to be a football player.
Seems like his career is kind of on the fade out.
Not too bad.
Ah, Ribble de Super Bowl.
Damn.
Lends to the Super Bowl.
It ended up with the Patriots,
and now, you know,
It happens quick, folks.
Before you know it, they're back.
Well, in other news, I want to see Seahawks win, for sure.
And I just want, I was really trying to get ESPN's own Roseberg to talk about how cool this is for Sam.
Love that part.
I love the Sam Donald piece, for sure.
Sam Donald, Laura, was the Jets quarterback for a few years.
Y'all hit the Jets with the button.
Another reason that team needs to be sold.
Yeah, they look.
How many years were.
Congratulations.
You played yourself.
No, no, like four.
now.
The whole
Zach Wilson
experience.
Oh,
Zach Wilson
experience.
But yeah,
I'm happy.
Sam's a great kid
and he's,
and now he's in the
frigging Super Bowl.
So,
no, that's why I'm,
I'm rooting for Seattle
for that,
for sure.
All right,
we got to get to
the originals right now.
The original.
Let's go.
Give me the heart.
Music.
Nope.
That's dance.
That's right.
The original gurus
at gmail.
Go, man.
The original gurus at gmail.
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And fight.
And shine the light.
On everything that's bright.
All right.
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The original gurus at gmail.com.
I have to go.
Right, Rosenberg.
Who's out there?
Who needs us?
First, I love to say.
I love this new platform.
So happy you're available to bright my mornings
with the pleasantries out of the way
onto my situation for the gurus.
My friend's group of approximately eight couples
are entering our 40s
within the next year or two.
The invites for 40th birthday parties are never ending.
Damn, it's already started.
Some events are small dinners up to Caribbean getaways.
For one of the birthday events, I'm being asked to prepay 500 a couple for drinks and dinner.
Another birthday event, a few weeks later, is a week-long Jamaica trip.
Wait, wait, wait, this is the same person having all these events?
Being invited to you.
Well, no, no, because remember, they're couples.
So everybody's the same age.
So everybody's kind of turning 40.
I thought this was one person having multiple events.
All right, all right.
Okay, keep going.
Now, while I would love to celebrate with everyone,
how do I politely decline these invites for the sake of my pockets
as I am also planning my own 40th?
I fear if I don't go to someone's beach getaway or expensive dinner,
they wouldn't come to my birthday event.
Please help me navigate all these birthday invites without going broke or losing friends.
Thanks for any insight, Mr. Soon to Be 40.
I can't help you.
I have nothing to say about this.
When I turned 40, my life had just exploded and I had dinner with me, my mom, my dad, and my brother.
That was it.
I got nothing for you, fam.
I skipped it.
I don't even know what it's like.
When I turned 40, I gave birth.
Four days later, I turned 40.
So I was all cut up for my C-section and paid.
Good times.
They're in the middle of a pandemic.
So, yeah, that's what happened to me.
Well, I don't think the person is asking what to do when you turn 40.
I think the person is asking, is there a way to avoid going to all these other events
and still getting people to come to mind?
And the answer is no.
But I will say, asking somebody to go on a trip is a big ask.
Big.
A dinner is one thing.
But a week-long getaway, that's a lot.
I think that whenever people do destination,
weddings or event, you're allowed to opt out.
You're all to say, hey, I can't afford this.
Why, right?
Work, can't afford it, all of it.
Yeah.
So I think the trip ones, you can, yes, work, you know,
it's just too expensive.
And maybe you just give them a gift on the side,
but you definitely should reach out.
Yeah.
I think the trips you can opt out, the dinners might be a little harder.
Yeah, the dinner ones, you might hit your man.
I'd be like, yo, 500, what are we doing, guys?
Or you know what you do?
Well, and then the question is how well do you even know these?
I mean, are they really like all of your friends, or are these just like other people you know?
And you can hit some of your other friends on the side and be like, yo, guys, these 500s crazy, right?
To encourage them to not do the same thing.
Now, listen, you're going to let them know your cheat.
But remember.
But remember when it's your turn, it can happen to you.
Yeah, you better be over there at that Dave and Busters, you know what I'm saying?
So don't pop up with like, we're going to Ruba for three days.
No.
Don't try to go to, you know, I don't know, what's an awesome steakhouse in the city?
Don't try to go to STK.
Yeah, no, no, the whole group trip to SDK, you can't do it.
Don't try to get the big steak at Peter Lugar or something.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so just be prepared.
But I say the dinners, you might have to do it.
Trips, nah.
That's easy to get out.
You know what I mean?
To get out.
I hope it helps.
But do remember, you got a 40th coming up too, fam.
So you can't bail on all of them and expect them to come to yours.
So save the gurus.
We're about it here.
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Bro.
El-R show.
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This is a special one.
Laura, don't over-saint.
Laura, calm down.
Okay, fine.
It's good.
No one's given birth on the show.
It's good.
Well, no, no, no.
I think it's the news, the news that gets broken on the show.
Oh, the plans?
I don't think she, the plan.
The plans.
It's the early plans.
Early plans.
The plans are only going to get better.
Now, Roselberg.
You guys are the first one to see.
Rosenberg does unravel on it, though.
There is a good Rosenberg unraveling.
That is a fact.
It happened.
Red face.
Another return of Redface Rosenberg is official here.
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