The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 27.) GRAMMY Talk, Nicki Unravels, + Texas Special Election (2/2/26)

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg discuss Don Lemon Arrest, Texas Special Election, Verzuz, D’Angelo Tribute, GRAMMYs Talk, Super Bowl Halftime, Nicki Minaj Unravels and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Look at us Ladies and gentlemen You got Ebro-Lor Rosenberg on Ooh In the new still That's right Listen good morning Everybody

It's your opportunity to switch from whatever You was doing over to this In five for a second Welcome We gotta get into the Grammys Yeah We gotta get into

What's going on in the world Because it's an FMS outside Is it? Yeah I found a new I found a guy on social I think had, I don't know his name. I got to find his name so we can get proper credit. Rassan, do you have that in there, that video?

Which one? This guy made a phenomenal record I want you guys. Made a record. It's a song. A song. A song. I don't know this person's name and I want to shout you out. All right.

Because I think this, the music, what he's saying, really, really captures the vibes right now. Bascom doesn't know what you're talking about, though. You don't have epped up. up is going on. I put it in the chat. You said you only, you needed extra audio. I sent you like two other things. You didn't see that? Three other things. Damn, we need a camera on basketball.

The old man is an old man playing. You didn't get this? We need that way. Oh, no. Look at you guys looking at each other. It's all right. You can play it though. Dumber. Let me play. It's not edited. So if you got kids in the car. You sure this is worth starting out our first studio show? Absolutely. All right. Let's go on. Let's hear it.

There's a visual, though, that I'm surprised you're not getting. All right. Let me get this for you guys. This is phenomenal right. All right, here we go. All right. I'm curious about where this is going to go. Oh, no, it's not playing.

This is- I'll tell you what the sounds like. Look at that video. You don't want this? Rassan Boshes. It's classic. I don't think this is worth it. I'm gonna call it right now.

You really don't? No, not considering we don't usually do curses. So like the old white man just screaming and matching. It was good. You know what? Rassan didn't put it in the system. I'm going to say the problem. I sent it over.

It's not in the system. Ebroden is now, and I've said this a lot, but it's just more and more true. He's the old guy who's so living in his phone that there are things that happen in there that when it happens, like, this is tight. And when you go to the real world with it, it's not that good. It's good and terrible. Oh, my God. I mean, yeah, I just don't know if it's worth what we're. I mean, I see why you liked it at the time.

I just don't know if it's hitting like that. But it hit for you in the moment. It didn't hit. It was just, the song is terrible. He's terrible looking. The video's terrible. Right. And he's saying it's up-up-ish going on.

It's perfect, man. It's of the moment. Come on, man. You guys ain't getting it. You guys not seeing the vibes, man. Listen, you're not really feeling the type of time on more. No, no. Listen, the vibe is right.

It is after, since we were last together, what happened? So much. I feel like so much. The Don Lemon fiasco. Which, by the way, in the end, can I just say for the rest? There were a lot of messages about like, where are you guys? We got to talk about Don Lemon.

And I, my feelings long term played out. Which what? Well, no, it was really your initial feeling. It was a big old nothing burger in the end. It was great pub for Don Lemon. I will tell you, though. It's still scary as hell, bro. These people are nuts.

It was scary for that other lady, particularly for that other lady. Do you see the video of the lady in her house? Yes. Who they went in bum rush. Now, did we ever hear it? I think her name is Georgia Fort. Am I saying her name right? Could be right.

Did we ever hear if she got out at the same time, Don Lemon did? Because that's the way scarier situation, not someone who has tons of publicity and a team and people keeping an eye on. And mind you, Don Lemon got scooped up at a Grammy party. Right. She was in her house with a family.

Or five o'clock in the morning. It's so interesting. With people looking through her windows. And her kids in the house. Yeah. And I believe it wasn't only two people. I think like five total independent journalists, all black. Well, yes, all black.

the guy from the local Black Lives Matter chapter, a woman journalist, there was another organizer that was there. And I think it played out where federal judges basically were like, this is absurd. This is crazy. Yeah. Well, for Don Lemon, I don't know about.

But that's the thing. I never saw official information on her. So I would like to know whether. Griff, can we get an update if there is one? Yeah, man. I mean, listen, I hear you. on the Don Lemon stuff, but it was still scary to me. Because these people do not follow the law.

They don't care. And what a celebration in Maga land to, like, arrest Don Lemon. No, I, you're both can be true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I knew he was, come on, man, Don, for what Don's operation has been recently, this was the dopest thing that could have happened. He's on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. It's all happening.

This was, and they had absolute zero on him. I mean, he was literally just there doing nothing. No, it was, it was. Listen. He got home and started calling the president out of his name, all kinds of curses. No, no. All right. Georgia Fork got out.

She got out too. Okay, that's great. If you are in the press and you are, you know, going out, covering things, there has always been a protection for you. And so to Laura's point, yes, it is very concerning that someone literally just at the scene of a thing can be arrested. For sure. That is.

Terrifying. And for people who haven't been. ever been arrested or know how these things work, the federal government, the attorney general of the United States of America, trying to, you know, implicate you in something that's when you're just, when you're just showing up to an event to cover it is insane. But I think what we have to do is remind ourselves of how much of a banana republic we are, as a nation, right? Truly. At this time. Truly. There's so much that you can't take serious. It's tough. It's tough to flip your brain and

look at that office and the White House and say okay I can't take this series. Normally we've all been conditioned to take that stuff serious. Well and you also have to take it serious because your life could depend on it. So you can't take it serious but you need to take it serious. All of us. All of us who speak out loud about this stuff needs to take it serious.

Did you see, excuse me, but did you guys see that a lot of people who have been protesting, whether you're just standing outside with a sign or you're actively marching. They'll scan you and they're like already snatching people's global entry, TSA pre-check, like they're intentionally messing, just messing with you. Yeah, that's all you do have to pay attention because it's very real. Well, in the, you should be taking a serious file, but it's not really that serious. Donald Trump was tweeting or truiting whatever it's called about the Texas Democrat election. And really riding for a, or excuse me, the election in Texas, and

really riding for the Republican. Right. Democrat ended up winning over the weekend. In a seat that hadn't been Democrats since 91. And here's Donald Trump who was truiting, tweeting, whatever you call it, on social media about the Republican, supporting the Republican. Definitely not truthing. No. That's what I think? No, well, it's just

definitely not truiting. It's not true. Right, it's not true. Social. Yeah, there you go. Play the video, Reson. Please. You have this video. He's president in Texas. point this. What is your reaction to that? I don't know. I didn't hear about it. Somebody ran. Where? In Texas, special election from the ninth state senate.

I'm not involved in that. That's a local Texas. You were talking about it on social media. 17. And this person lost. Things like that happen. What, you don't know whether or not it's trans- terrible. You know, I'm not on the balance, and you don't know whether or not it's trans-serable.

But you know, you put the Democrats in, you'll end up with open, orders again. We'll end up with crime all over the place. We have no crime anymore. No crime anymore. We have no. That's good news. In a hundred and twenty-five years. He recorded issue. The year 1900, that's a long time ago. So it's very good. No, I don't know anything about it. I didn't know. I mean, I know there's a race going there.

And, uh... He didn't know anything about it, but he knows there's a race going on. Which one is it? I have nothing. Definitely not true. Yeah. Definitely not trooping right there. Because the first I was wondering, is this saying that either, A, he's lying point blank, which is obvious on the table. Or, and this would be interesting, does he not type every one of his crazed tweets? Yeah, I don't know.

Are there people who know, no, does he have other people who speak fluent Trump around him? They know the crazy caps. Absolutely. They do all the things. Absolutely. You know, you remember, I don't. You've got to produce him, man. Like the Iron Sheeks Twitter account.

Yeah. Respectfully. I know the guys who ran Iron Sheeks Twitter account. I don't know if he ever put up a tweet. But if at some point he did, at some point he did, at some point he did. he certainly stopped, and they were like, no, no, we know the Iron Sheeks crazy cadence, and we type for him. Can you remove your rag-tag bottle of water?

It's not conducive to this beautiful studio. What are you drinking? This is what's here. Who bought this? Ask someone. That's the worst bottle of water. I've never even seen that brand. Basically, spring water.

Get that off the table. What are these headphones you have on the table? What is this? You can't see my headphones, man. What does this hell have to be? Are we doing this in like a waxing? This is a shrine. We have iPads here.

Yes. No, the water bottle. Your monster bows can get out of you. You can't even see them. Monster isn't any money here. Bose hasn't either. Can you see a type of time I'm on now? Can you see my one shot?

Can you see my one shot? Why are they there? You can't see the head. Yeah, there's a whole room over here. Why are they even here? Because they're there to be charged. What's wrong with you? Why did you start to show with that terrible freestyle that no one wanted?

Oh, because I thought our producers would have their it together since I put it in the group chat. Why did you think that? Oh my God. You know what? Congratulations. You played yourself. You're absolutely right.

And can you get a camera on Baskin? We need to work on that. Because when you just call his name out and the look he gives of what? But the funny part is then he acts like he can't literally pick up his phone right now and see what I sent to him and get it together. Like it was in the, he's sitting there. He still hasn't picked up the phone. I mean because I think he has to go through. Pick up your phone.

Yeah, but now Dress, he's the same guy who's switching the shots. Yeah, but Grip, help him out. There's two people over there. That's a lot. Bro, you're asking a lot. You're asking a lot. It's over with. The old man is done.

Yeah, but the old man's cooked, bro. Congratulations. You played yourself. We're moving on from the old man. Not you. Not you, the thing. No, no, no. You can move on from me, too.

See how you guys are. So, yeah, so the weekend was a very, you know, Trumpy weekend. We had Don Lemon get out of jail. Anything else crazy from out the weekend, though? No one got killed in the streets. Grammys, what you're going to do on the run down? Yes, yes.

How many things from the Grammys? should we stay away from at this point in the show so we don't ruin the rundown. Why don't me just do the rundown early because I feel like that's going to set the tone. Or you are live and direct from LA from Versus. You want to talk about that? I mean, we can absolutely talk about Versus.

Are we ever going to do a Versus recap again? Will that ever happen again? Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. How do I? I don't know how much? This is an awkward conversation because isn't this now a full-on Apple event?

Yeah. Yeah. So how will believe- It's Apple complex and. versus. All right. It's a combo. We can't figure it out.

I guess the question is, did people care? I just don't know. Seemingly, it was number one on socials. Like, at the time, people cared. I was in a different time zone. I couldn't, it was the middle of the night for me. So you didn't even see it.

When I couldn't sleep at 5 in the morning in this Riyadh, I went on and started watching a little bit of it. By the way, if you missed it, Rosenberg was in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, I was in Saudi Arabia. And I turned it on and saw a couple of dope songs playing. I did not like the setup in the room at all. You didn't? No, not on TV.

It was horrible. Really? I was annoyed at the crowd. The crowd. I'm like, wake up, wake up. But that was my point. Was that the crowd or was that the setup? It felt like nothing.

It felt like they were wandering around and no one was paying attention. In the room, it felt like it was the crowd. It did. And a lot of people just blamed Los Angeles. That's not fair. And I didn't think that was fair. But I think it was just more of an industry problem. Yeah, you know, it was too cool.

Well, no, because the people who crowded to the front was the industry people. God. How big was the room? How many people did it? hold. There's probably a couple hundred people in there. Oh, it's only a couple hundred though. Oh, so it's small to start out with. But more of a reason. Yo, have fun. I know. Yeah, but you're asking, that's an impossible

ass now. You're telling me there's a few hundred people and to get in there, you had to know somebody. Well, no, there was they wanted to have fans in it. And what happened? Too many industry people wanted to show it. Oh, God. To be a boring. Yeah, but why the room's so small? Why is it? Because it's just that's the size of the room. I mean, I'm not mad at the room. I just wish people had it. had a better time.

You know what I mean? I wanted some energy. Yeah, it didn't. But the songs were, I was like, this is really as good a one as you could hope for from a standpoint of music.

Oh, musicality was great. And the guests were dope. I mean, I only saw Big Sean, but he was dope. Who else showed up? Big Sean, J. Ray Schremert was there. Let me see.

Those are the only features, right? Because I saw Chloe Bailey in there, but I think she was just hanging out. Chloe was just hanging out. T.I. was just hanging out. Who else was there? I saw people. It was a good time.

I had a great time. I liked how it looked on television. I didn't like the crowd. Same. I liked how it looked. Just I wish the crowd was the world. The only other thing is, let me just say this about liking how it looked. Because the crowd isn't loud, I now don't like how it looks because there's mad people

on stage. So I feel like there's more people on stage than there are in the crowd. That irritates. Oh, when you talk about look, you're still talking about people, though. I'm talking about the setup. Yeah, that's all I was really paying attention. I was like, what's going on? Who are they performing for?

because I couldn't help but be affected by that. I hear them saying crazy awesome stuff, and the response is crickets. Now, what does that have to do with the recap that I asked you about? That's all I had. Oh. Well, we have a recap one again. Because I was just talking about the music.

I mean, the music's amazing. I don't know. You guys tell me. And they're talking about who won and who lost. I think it's pretty unanimous to hit boy Mike Will won this. Really? Yeah, yeah. I think that's pretty unanimous.

Well, I would be interested then to go through the songs because that's an interesting breakdown. I know. No, but that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. And when you go through the catalogs of Mike Will and Hit Boy, it's, I mean, it was already a tough putt for Hit Boy. Mike Will's got some bangers.

Hit Boy does too, but he's got to lay his out in a way to make sure he lands it. But the funny thing is, off the top of my head, I wouldn't be able to think of all the Mike Will bangers except to hear them. When you hear them, you're like, oh, my God, I forgot about this. That's the first one I think of, though. Bandsamekin dance. You know, the future join. See, this is why it's hard for me to think of what they are.

I just need to hear them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You literally just made a bunch of noises. But you know that song. When I hear it, oh, that John Blaze. No, my, three. No, we'll have maybe on Patreon this week.

We'll go over it. Let me say this. This is what I meant to say. It doesn't feel like because we're out of the pandemic and it's a different time. I don't know if the urgency feels the same. When we were doing it in the first iteration, it was the only thing moving. That's all we could do. So the next morning it was like, if we don't hit this, we failed.

That's all yet. Now I think we don't fail if we don't do it, but we should because it's good music. Well, it's also Mike Will and Hip Boy, and if you love hip hop and you love what they contribute, and if you love music at a time where people ain't really listening to that much, music is a celebration of music, which is good. One of my biggest pet peeves right now, because even on this show, like, you get on YouTube, you can't play them to damn music. By the way, I got in this business for music.

I like music. I don't know if you guys noticed. I like playing music. I like listening to music. I wish more people listen to music. I'm into music. People aren't here for the music anymore, bro. They just want to hear Yo-Yo's talk.

What's music? If they wanted music, they can still listen to the radio. Although you can say the reason they don't listen to the radio is because the radio stop really playing music. Right. Well, at least exposing you to music or having some diverse taste. That's been for a while, though. Yeah, yeah.

And by the way, a lot of people still listen to music. Of course. And listen to the radio. Let's not play that. Of course. I know, but there was the people used to over. Overstate what radio did. However, the one thing that was always true is they did get to a point where they started spending songs literally like 200 times a week, which means it's playing all day long. Playing the Nielsen game. Yeah, playing the Nielsen game. And that did, that does make an impact. So I don't know, it does feel like a lot of people don't listen to music. Like it seems like all people do is watch yo-yo's talk about God knows what. Things are not informed.

That's in this bubble. You got to get out of this bubble. If you're on YouTube or in the podcast space or like what you do for a living, it's just yo-yo's talking. Yeah. In my other, here, I'm just, now I'm just a yo-yo talking. Right. But in my other world. You're a yo-yo talking, but people are really there to hear the music. No, I play music. Right now. You tune in to me at 3 o'clock every day.

It's 90% music most of the time. Right. Like I'm playing classics, new stuff, talking about albums, 3 o'clock. And it's free. On Apple music, you should get the app and you hit radio and it's free. 3 o'clock Eastern.

Yeah, no, people do like music. Music's good, man. Speaking of which, we're a rest and peace to Michael 5,000 wants. Man, listen, bro. That was a surprise, no? Yeah, I didn't know that people knew that Swisher House founder, Michael 5,000 Watts, was sick or anything. I never heard that. Yeah, that was came out of nowhere.

But yeah, that happened over the weekend. So, yeah, rest and peace. Yeah. They added him to the thing last night. Good, good, good. Glad they got him in there. Did you guys watch the end? Did you see the whole thing?

I did not. You all haven't seen it yet? I saw the DeAngo tribute. You did see it. Was that at the end? You saw the whole thing? Yeah. Yeah, I saw the whole thing.

whole thing. But I saw the only Charlotte I didn't stay up for. The DiAngelo tribute came after the Ozzie tribute, which was fire. But then the DeAngelo tribute, man, the two parts that really messed me up when Bilal came out and did untitled. Oh my God. Balal is just someone who is super important to that sect of music and culture, but doesn't get a lot of big out loud in mainstream places praise. So to see, and he's so good and a contemporary of DeAngelo. So to hear him perfectly nailed that was amazing and then the other part that messed me up was when they played

they started doing Roberta Flack and they played Feels Like Making Love and had the picture of both of them up there. That sent me bro. And then Wyclough comes out and the John Forte picture goes up. I was like oh man it was. It was beautiful. It was really lovely. It was great to see Lucky Day, Raphael Sadeek. When I heard

her say Raphael Sadeek, I was like, oh my God. It was really dope man. I wonder if Questlove was like behind that. Because it was really well whoever orchestrated that did a really good job making it all make sense I could have dealt without the super if I'm gonna nitpick which is what I do Why you buzzing me? If I'm gonna nitpick which is what I do okay I didn't need the sped up brown sugar That bothered me I didn't need that I want to tell me you're brown sugar

I don't know just brown sugar's a slow song let's I don't like anything sped up We have limited time I'm not into the sped up version not brown sugar I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna do you because I'm I'm not, you know, going to. Congratulations. You play myself and critique these professionals at what they do, but I hear you. It's more the decision on how we're going to do this beforehand. Everyone's actual execution and performance was great. But yeah, I don't need to sped up.

I chose to look past it, you know. Just enjoy the rest of it. That's me. Mr. Choose Not to look past it. Well, look, let me see. How do I, hmm? What are you looking to do, pal? Wait, hang on, let's try something here.

Let's see something. What's it? So far we got a buzz. All right. So far Get ready for the rundown with Laura Stiles Oh That's all I got

All right I don't have the official beat though You don't? You've been sent that I don't have it's not Get We already heard that We already heard that Okay

Do you want to do you want the rundown? Was that the point? Do you have it? No no do you want to actually start the Run down? That's why I hit it. It's 827 Okay yeah I don't have I don't have it oh all right I'm at do, but how am I going to play? You want to give it to me? It's fine. It's fine. You can figure it out. No, I have it, but I have it. I have the rundown beat.

Oh, gee. Here we go. Here we go. You want me to plug in and play? Just playing my thing. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Plug in and play. But you got to make sure it doesn't buzz up. Go ahead. Go ahead. He says I have a wire. Let's go. Hold, I want to take the case off. Take the condom off. Let's go. Raw dog. Here we go. Let's see if it works, folks. All right. Headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Light still flashing, we don't slow up. But this one doesn't have the beat coming back, so it's always something.

Oh, man, what were you guys doing all weekend? You're flying in from Saudi Arabia, Rassan's not paying attention to the tech. I don't know if I'd say that. I'm at Disney on Ice. You know what I'm saying? I take your family to Disney on Ice. You took my, yeah, you were busy taking my family to Disney on Ice. You know what I mean?

But you couldn't be ready for the show. All right. I thought it did pretty good. All right. So the Grammys went down, guys. Trevor Noah returned. It was this, it's a sick. Ty, Rosenberg? I thought it was like four.

Six too many. Yes. Well, this was final. Yo, why are you trashed from my guy? Trevor? I like Trevor. I like him. I think he's cool, but I just, I don't know he had been hosting for six. I like him as a guy. I like, I like that he exists in the world as a host, man. I just don't know what we're going for. He does a good job. It's the Gramies. What are you looking for? It's like every, his cadence is always like, is this a joke? Shut up.

Where are we going? Shut up. You didn't even watch. By the way. I did watch. Did you? I did. He takes in things for like two seconds. No, I watched the first hour and then I went to sleep.

And you go, this is my version of comedic host. He was Trevor Noah. Remember that. He really likes Trevor Noah. He likes a lot of things that are not funny. I like Trevor Noah. He's a nice guy. I think he does a great job for a super mainstream show that's family-oriented.

You're looking for. What are you looking for? What are you looking for? Have I ever expressed? Have I ever expressed? You want Andrew Dice Clay to host of Grammy? Andrew Dice Clay? Is that where you're going?

There were very mainstream people? who were way better. Like when we were in like the Billy Crystal era, the like, there were people who were better. Don't f out of here, Billy Crystal. I love Billy Crystal. But you're acting like he was more edgy. I don't know. I don't want edgy. I don't want edgy. I don't want funny. I don't want like you walk around in front of the people and they all look awkwardly scared like weird farm animals. It didn't work. It just was. But everybody does that though. No, that was the Grammy's thing. The walk around in front of the crowd. That's the setup. That's, listen, he's your friend. You're just a hater.

I'm not a fan. He's a nice guy. I liked his book. I like what he stands for. I don't like him as a host. I'm glad that it's over. He's not coming back. So you guys are good.

He's not coming back. Yo, we are, this is the, the wussification of America. This is the same thing as our JZ combo. Why you have him with a J. I don't hate Trevor Noah. I just didn't like him as a host.

That makes me. And that's fine. I'm the only one who's like, all right, man. All right, guys. Our guy, Bad Bunny, our Bad Bunny one album of the year. We're coming back to that. Would you like hear what Bad Bunny had to say when he got that?

Yes. Go ahead. Hit me with it. Before I say, thanks to God, I'm going to say eyes out. Which match the pin everyone was wearing. First fully Spanish album to win a Grammy. What are you doing? Wrong drop, wrong drop. I meant to hit this.

And I say it based on effects. Oh. savage, we're not animals, we're not aliens, we are humans, and we are Americans. Love that line. Also, I want to say to the people, I know it's stuff to know not to hate on these days. And I was thinking sometime we get contaminated. I don't know how to say that in English. I figured, man.

I figured it out. My Spanish was great. I picked that. The hate get more powerful with more hate. The only thing that is more powerful

than hate is love. So, please, we need to be different. If we fight, we have to do it with love. There you go.

Bad Bunn. Oh, man. Yo, when he sat there and they announced him and he was tears coming down. I wanted to jump through the screen, Rosenberg and give him a big hug. I was like, yeah. He was, he was really good.

Yeah, it felt really sincere. It was a lovely moment. Yeah. Well, I think you're, I think, he walked away with three. Do people realize, including album of the year, it's crazy. Do people realize that this album from Bad Bunny

and where Bad Bunny is at in his career, um, the spotlight that's on him for what he's talking about, uh, the, I mean, the accomplishment you just mentioned. Absolutely. All Spanish album to win album in the year. At a time when what's going on in the country is crazy.

Like that, that's an overwhelming amount of spotlight pressure, you know, for one person. Like when, like, so for him to kind of, you know, like you said, Laura Stoub's, he's just kind of there and he was overwhelmed with emotion when he went up for album of the year. For that to be happening, you know, you gotta get Bad Bunny some grace. And then this is a week out from the Super Bowl. I love that he still did it, showed up, said something. All these eyeballs on him, people are ready to fry here. And he stays on message. He does not shy.

He does not shy away. Think about it, guys. A couple years ago, he led one of the biggest protests in Puerto Rico. I'm glad you brought that up, Laura, because I kind of curved around bringing that up. Are people aware? Well, no, not that portion. But are people aware that there are politicians in Puerto Rico, politicians who serve Puerto Rican constituencies who are Republican?

They hate Bad Bunny. Oh, yeah. They hate Bad Bunny. Because he's proven to be more powerful than they are. Than they are. They want him out. And he's a big-time progressive. During, what was his name, Ricky Roselo?

That was the guy that they were trying to get out. Or they got out, actually. It was him, Residente, and Ricky Martin. Only ones who dropped what they were doing to go to Puerto Rico and lead one of the biggest protest they've ever had. So cool. For change. And never stopped.

Well, guess what? Now we had to have the rest of America coming after him starting next Monday. Because I don't think he's going to hold back on Sunday. I don't think so either. Well, he doesn't really, I don't think he really has to do anything other than what he's been doing.

That's exactly right. Even if he does nothing. Even if he just does bad money. Because, you know, his show, his show in Puerto Rico that we went to, can you imagine how America's going to feel if the first thing, they see is

African drumming at the Super Bowl. You don't think they like it? Why? All those Santeros in white. You meant that to be an Fad here. Fad here or the bomb? No.

I meant the bomb because they play it's Bombay-e-playing it. They play in the play. When they play the drums, man, they call it Bombay-e-Plena. Or bomb-bye, and then there's plana. But a black man playing drums that's, I hope that's what happened.

I hope he does exactly what he does. He's bringing la Casita? Will you? I know you know. I don't know. I really have no. I wonder if he does bring the little house. I'm like liar.

No, I really don't. I had no idea. It's going to be turned up from what that is though. I mean, of course. Because that's honestly, his live show, while very cool is almost somewhat scaled back. It's not like an insane. Yeah. It's a cool set, but it's not insane.

Super Bowl's always, you know. Yeah. That's what we're going to D.C. this weekend. Yeah. And we were talking about our plans back. And like, I know this won't go over well at my other job. I dead ass was like, well, as long as we just get bad by halftime. I do not care about seeing the start of Seattle, New England.

Like, I can listen in the car and hear what's happening. As long as I'm in front of the TV. By the for the clothes. Halftime to the close. Yeah, yeah. And I do want to see the second half. From halftime on, I need to see it. But really, the halftime thing is important.

So when they ask you, if they're listening right now or watching right now, anybody from ESPN New York. Yeah. How are you going to change it to do the dance? Oh, I'm not. No, they know, I'm not interested in the Super Bowl. Everyone knows I think the Super Bowl's I'm going to listen in the car

I need to know what's happening but I'm saying like I don't care so much about there's no one playing in this game You don't want to see New England win No and I'd like to see Sam Darnel play well There you go But I don't need to like watch every player I'm going to like be sad

It's not like one of those You just care to see Ben I thought you was going to get to ESP in New York and do the dance I thought you was going to get over there Like I can't wait for the Super Bowl No I don't do come on that dance I do some dances

I can only dance so much Can't wait to see Sam Journal No, I'm not that hyped I'm not that hype Brayble, let's go Are you gonna want Well, you're gonna be at the game, right? Yeah, I'll be there

Are you to pay attention to the game or not? Yeah, I pay attention I'll sit down I'll watch I watch, I mean I'm there So, you know I'm sitting here, I'm watching I have a beverage

What was the last football game you were at? Super Bowl Yo, he only goes to the suit You know how insane that is? No, no, no, hold on Do you understand how boogey This dude only Hold on.

He only watches the Super Bowl. Hold on. He only watches the Super Bowl. And he only watches in person. That's the only game this guy goes to or watches is the Super Bowl. Yo, he is like your worst girlfriend. Except they go to the Super Bowl every year. Like your girlfriend is like, oh, we have to watch my mom.

And then he's like, oh, by the way, I'll be in a box of the Super Bowl every year. Right. That's banana. Yo, and I hear these, listen, listen, last year we were in New Orleans, right? I mean, listen, all due respect. I love the city of New Orleans. But we got to talk about the Superdome.

Oh, it's old. I've never been, so I don't know. Man, it is. It's Washington. I like it. I just like the vibe of being there, but it's old. No, no, no. I love the setup.

I love how you move around it. There's so much, but just audio, video, the boxes, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's just not upgraded. No, it's just not upgraded. No, and this new place is... This is the Levi Stadium. Yeah, this is one of the more recent ones. I think the only thing newer is what, so far?

Yeah, there are only a few. Oh, it's going to be fire. Did you finish, by the way, the rundown? No, we just kind of went in. Start the intro. I do want to. You do not have to start the intro. Yeah, just fine.

Just talk. I like the intro. Why do you guys want to hear an intro? Can we send love to our girl, Kaylani? Yes. Absolutely. Yo, first two Grammys for Best R&B performance and Best R&B Song for Fold. We actually have audio.

That everybody is so. powerful in this room and in this room later and together we're stronger in numbers to speak against all the injustice going on in the world right now Yeah So instead of letting it be just a couple of you here and there I hope everybody's inspired to join together as a community of artists and speak out against what's going on and I'm a leave it and say ice Yeah, Kee. I mean you knew it you knew she got me You knew she was gonna get the ball rolling with the FI situation and and never forget what over uh Kailani just overcame in the last two years. They was canceling Kayla trying to cancel her for our music

video where she had Palestinian flags. Then they were canceling. They canceled her Central Park Summer Stage on the heels of all that still came back around, had a number one record, still came back around won all these Grammys. It does reinforce my big point. Which is. Even when it comes to

the most cancelable subject, Israel, etc., people still don't get canceled. Some do. Some do. I mean, we got canceled. When you, we're You are working for an employer that can go, we turn off your mics. When you're an artist and you create. Maybe.

Who got canceled? It may be. I don't know. Even Ye didn't get canceled. His stuff got crappy and bad and no one bet. But it depends. Like, Ye's different though, because he was already Kanye. Right.

But if you're not at that level. And Kalani wasn't, not at that level. No, not at the big level. Not that level. Yeah. She's only gotten bigger over the last couple years. She lost some money, lost some opportunities. But people rallied for her, though.

True. People rallied for it. And then she came with Folded. And she came with fire record. You come with your, you do what you're doing and you do it well. But I don't think it's as easy as just going as you're not cancelable. I don't think it's that easy. I'm just saying I find the notion of canceled to be a sort of made up thing.

We're not canceled either. We're sitting right here. There's mad people watching right now. Guys, let's be real. Who really got canceled? We haven't made any money though. But so we're kind of canceled. We're kind of canceled.

Your pockets are canceled. Yeah, pockets are canceled. I'm just saying like it's just such an over. in the case of Kalani, she probably dealt with more than anyone else had to. Like she dealt with a lot. And even that. In the end. I think no, well, no, wait, hang on.

There were reports of people getting dropped from agencies, not being able to get jobs in Hollywood for speaking out against him. That was a thing. I'd like to know who they are. There was a whole list. There was articles. Let's see. Let's see if there were people who were getting jobs previously and stopped getting jobs. Because that's what I said.

I just feel like being canceled is not real, guys. I just don't think it's fully... Listen, I can't go that far with you. I can't walk that walk with you. No. Who actually got canceled? They disappeared. They stopped doing anything.

And they were really big before. Now, what you're saying, here's what I think the nuance is. You're not that big yet. And you're at a big agency. And you taking a stand that's as bold as being anti-Israel could make them not interested in you or drop you at your agency. That could happen. But that's canceled.

Yeah. Or let's just say you've plateaued as an artist and maybe you aren't in your, highlight or twilight twilight no you're in your twilight you're no longer in boom um and you get dropped and people don't want to work with you because of something you said in support of Palestinians against Israel right like we can't sit here and act like speaking out against Israel isn't dangerous not doing that we're not but we're also not going to pretend that it's ending people's everything right but sometimes it can I just want the example I think it ends it ends certain opportunities Lots of things do.

I mean, Diddy's more, Diddy will get you canceled. Maybe. Right now. What do you mean? Diddy will get you? Like being Diddy, doing what Diddy did,

harming people physically and having crazed orgies that the whole world hears about. Diddy will come out and people will still support. Based on what's going on, if you're black and you've harmed people, you're in jail. If you're white and associated with Israel and the Mossad, you're going to get offed?

I mean, you're like, Well, Weinstein went to jail. And Weinstein went to jail. Yeah. But Trump's chilling. You can't just say white. The Trump's orange.

It's a different thing. No, being orange, we'll have you different out here. The Teflon, Don. I mean, we haven't even talked about the Epstein files. No matter what is there, people keep sending stuff. Like, oh, here we go. I'm like, well, and we do got to talk about Jay Z and push his name trying to be tied into this whole thing.

You know, I knew you wouldn't mention that because you're scared. You want to go with Nikki Minaj, but you don't want to talk about the real criminals. in the Epstein files says me, Psycho Barb 423. All right, all right. No, but I guess the way I understand it is Jay-Z and Push's names were mentioned in a FBI tip line. Yes. Not in the Epstein file.

Yes. They had no correspondence. There's not a thousand emails between Jay-Z and Epstein or Pusha and Epstein. That's not a thing. and technically this FBI tip line is not even the Epstein file? Guys, it was somebody called in and made these accusations. In 2019, by the way. Yes.

But by the way, this is what? It was never investigated. It was just they, they, I have my own theories on how all of a sudden it's like, Jay-Z and push it. That's what I was like, let me guess. Kendrick is going to be part of this too. But he wasn't, right? But he wasn't.

But it wouldn't have been shocking. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're going. Yes, yes. But there was no evidence, no charges, and no. Nothing. But we have to... Are you guys saying

there's some sort of like internet? These are internet. Or like, you know, just people who felt a certain way. You're saying it's... People with an axe to grind. Oh, you said axe. An ax.

Oh! But here's where we have to be fair about the Epstein Files. This is where what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The Epstein file... Your name appearing in the Epstein Files is not the be all end all. It's just not. And so that goes both ways. But I don't think they are in there.

the Epstein files. I think that's the point. They're not in Epstein's files where they corresponded with Epstein, were on a flight log, were at- But it came out in the dump. But it came out in a dump from the government, but they were a part of an FBI tip line. I think Laura's saying that they dumped that stuff in there as a distraction from the actual files because the files are egregious. The correspondence, like, what's the woman, Barry Weiss? Her wife, the head of CBS, her wife has 1,000 correspondents. with Jeffrey Epstein. So you're saying that's different than your name being mentioned once. Yes. Exactly. Totally agree with that. But we also have to remember there are sometimes things get

mentioned there. When you go read what it was, you realize that what it was is someone said to someone this thing and now that thing is in there. But it is just hearsay. And we're like, this is enough to end the person. I'm like, no, it's not. That's one person who said it to one person. Now, I'm not talking about someone like Trump who has tons of stuff in there and we know he's close with Epstein but there are other people who you hear get thrown into it and I'm like bro just because they got mentioned or Prince Andrew who they got photos of him well you know pretty no listen Prince Andrew's one of the years prince Andrew Clinton Hillary Trump well but I think Hillary I mean then there's a hard part of like you were friends with these people you I don't

think Hillary was hanging out while while orgies were going on sorry I don't think she was not the vibe I get from Hillary Not the vibe I get that Hillary's like, oh yeah, Bill, let's get into it. They got chicks today? I don't know. So I do think there was multiple things going on at one time. And that's complicated for people to understand. Yeah, but when it comes to this, guys, it was a tip line.

It says Jay-Z and Push-a-T, their names appear simply because the FBI kept a record of the public tip line that has now been unsealed. So anyone could have made the tip, is what we're saying. Yes, anyone. The timeline didn't even make sense, did it? No. So the allegation against Jay-Z was 1996 when his first album came out. Sorry, he didn't know Harvey Weinstein in 1996. He didn't.

Now, Jay-Z was friends with Harvey Weinstein at some point or work associates. He produced, they produced films together. Like, that did happen later. But in 1996, Jay-Z wasn't at any of these things. But that's- And push-in- But this is back to the point of sort of what can end up bothering me. You have to remember, if Jeffrey Epstein-Ebstein, is who we think he is, which is likely some sort of like Mossad agent who Israel was using to gather

information on powerful people so they could get whatever they want done. Which they've been successful. Which they obviously did. I don't know if you know. And that's the other part. You have to know, Israel isn't shy about the fact that they are down to do crazy things to get what they need done. That's one of the things people admire about Israel.

Their military and their operations and the things that they do to protect themselves is some deep is. if that's what Jeffrey Epstein was you realize that he's intentionally in those emails you can see him trying to get people caught up yeah he's fishing but that's what his job was was to be a fish that's right his job now

you had to be a real scumbag to end up getting hooked by that fish because what he was using as bait was often underage kids but you have to know that a lot of those emails were like Epstein said to so-and-so X, Y, and Z in an email. He wanted those things in the email.

He was, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. His point was to have emails. And he knew his emails were being watched. And he knew the emails were eventually getting it. You can just read it that way. You can be, oh, he's, this may be true. But that does not excuse.

All of that being facts, that does not excuse the pedophilia, the abuse, the murder, and everything that definitely took place. Well, absolutely not. But I had to say it. Yeah, yeah. No, because they're all going, trying to think that it's fine. Yeah, no, it's all good.

But you also have to realize, right now we're saying, talking about a file, chalked full of murder and abuse of young girls, young boys. Yes. Right? And the trafficking of children.

And we have begun to talk about it like it was last, it was last night's Nick's Lakers game. Yeah. Yeah. That's dangerous. Yeah, it is. Like, that's dangerous.

Like if you really think about how like regular it's become. Well, that's also because, again, the meaning of it is lost. That's sort of part of some of the context I'm trying to give. It's not to get rid of the terrible stuff that's in there and how we are basically learning from this that people who are admired and powerful and important in America were a part of horrible abuse of children, potentially murder and snuff films and rape and all the worst things.

But the way it's been handled now has been tossed into this huge conversation. Well, that's what they're trying to do. That's meaningless. That's what they're trying to do. I believe that the, I believe this whole treasure trove of three million docks and all of that and kind of, it's kind of like a hiding in plain sight kind of thing. Right.

Where everyone is basically losing the plot, not knowing who is behind this, not paying attention to who's behind. And then on top of it, not even knowing what the recourse is. What actually happens now? But to Rosenberg's point, it's all done on purpose, guys. Yes. Everything is done on purpose to desensitize us. Now, you want to hit a lowdown real quick?

I mean, we can start dancing. No, it's not the lowdown. It's not the lowdown. That's not the lowdown. It's off on the blow. You know what I mean? Start dancing. I don't consider that dancing.

I'm not going to, I don't know what dance we're doing. I don't either. I just want the lowdown. I don't even have the lowdown, so I hit the dance. So, all right. That was really my cover. Oh, for not. We just not prepared.

All right. I didn't have that stuff and nobody sent it over. The hot rod Rick? I don't have it. Your favorite. That's the hottest piece we got. I'll see what I can do in the meantime.

That's the hot rod rig. Guys, I'm just going through Nikki's tweets. Nikki Menon. Oh, man. Raveled. Well, you know why? On Twitter.

You know why? First you got to hit this. I can't believe it. This is what. Rosenberg's favorite host. And Phineas. The most talented siblings in the world are here, people.

Every other parent is like, what are my kids doing? Nothing with their lives. We got John Legend in the house. Oh, man, every single person here, John Legend, Billy Alice Phineas. Nikki Minaj is not here. She is not here. Here's the hard part.

It's that. You're that cheering? Happy, she's not dead. She is still at the White House with Donald Trump discussing very important issues. Actually, Nikki, I have the biggest ass. I have it. Everybody's saying it, Nikki. I know they say it to you, but it's me.

Whop, wop, wop, look at it. Look at it, baby. Oh, God. I just didn't love the go home of the joke. This feels like there were so many options. What's just the ass part. I was like there was so much, there was so much in there. Now, for being honest, if you've ever seen photos of Donald Trump.

Oh, you got a big ass. He's got huge ass. No, man has a huge ass. There's no question. That part is, you're right. Pointing that out is worthwhile. It's worth note. Now, he's got a dunk.

What you're saying? No, I didn't say that. You said that. You brought up, but you brought up. I just, I was literally the, the amount of back. side. But no, it's big. It's big out here. You checked it out before? You can't miss it?

You were like, hold on, hold on. I was literally like, hold on, hold on. Oh, my man's got a thing. Get that out of it. Anyway, yeah. So she posted a picture of Jay-Z with Alia and Jay-Z and Beyonce. And she put age 26 for Hove and age 15. Did the math wrong, but keep going. And then did the same

thing with Beyonce and put her as a 16. year old. But listen to how wild this is. Are y'all understanding that these people have been sacrificing children as a way of gaining and maintaining power? If you ever vote Democrat again, you're just as soulless. No, no, no, if you ever vote, read it closer. Oh, demoncrat. Excuse me. It's demoncrat. Your solace. Demons. And you're as soulless as they are and will perish. Maybe it's time for me to do some story time since I was trying that to say what I know. yet they continue to attempt bullying. They bully, yes.

So wait, I'm sorry. I've had enough. Put down the cocaine, ma'am. Wait, so Alia passed when she was 22, she said she was doing a maverick. Leia passed 2001. Yeah, she was 17. I just googled that.

She was 17 and 96. She wasn't 15. But I'm just saying right now today she would be how old? 51? No, no, no. I think she's my ageish. Yeah, she's my age exactly. Maybe she'd be 46.

46, 46. 46. How old and Beyonce's how old? Does it? 44. 44. Got it. You don't want to hear about, she's talking about your favorite artist has been practicing rituals

in a satanic cult. You don't want to hear about this? Take babies from other countries and mutilate and kill them? Oh, that's what, so she's, so is this part of the setup to the eventual cleanup? Is she lost her mind?

Because now she can, now the stuff can be crazy enough that she can go see, look at me. I was clearly not well. Is that where we're going here? Well, so back to that, this, her saying that just takes me back to the people she was just hanging out with. Yes. No, not them, bro.

Not them. No, no, but our favorite artist, but you was just at with Trump and them. All weekend. She went to a wedding. Their names are in literally documentation of people, not a person. Ebro, I've heard audio. Multiple people, multiple people saying that Donald Trump was abused. sexually abusing children.

Not one person, not two people, many people. I've heard the audio of him saying to a 11-year-old girl, in 10 years I might date you. I've heard him say that if his daughter wasn't his daughter, he would date her. I've heard it. They don't care. They're psycho.

She's making whatever she wants. I understand. I understand. I just needed to say it. No, you have to say it. I just saw you hanging out with people who have documented allegations. That's her home now, though. Those are her people. That doesn't matter, you bro. I understand it doesn't matter, but it matters to me. Why are you worried about pha? Yo, Ebro's with a button. Congratulations. You play yourself. You stay worrying about truth and facts. I don't know what you're doing.

My one disappointment from the weekend. There's a couple things we still got to get to before the show's over. number one Cardi was awesome on SNL I saw it was incredible the one disappointment I have is I wonder if they said to her do you want to play Nikki Minaj in our opening

scene because that didn't cross their mind as the biggest because they ended up doing an opening with Pete Davidson playing Holman and it was it was fine but like the biggest thing moving last week was Nikki Minaj at the White House and I'm glad she didn't

I am not I'm gonna tell you I'm glad for her Just to stay away, just to stay away. Because right now, Cardi is, she's about to go on tour. She had to ask in a moment. Yeah. She's got her tour starts in like a few weeks soon. Yeah, yeah.

Sales are great. She's not mentioning any of that. And she can move. She's got her, her husband's in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Like, why, you're like, why? You're not toxic. There's not so much positive things happening.

No, you're not toxic. No, you were only thinking about yourself. Like how good. I was actually thinking about Cardi. Like it would have just been funny. Like they're just. I'm not like you. I don't just think about myself.

Oh, my. No, I just spiking the football. It's not just myself. I want to see Nikki suffer publicly. I want to spend some time here. Yeah, I want Cardi to spike the football. Wait, why? Because Nikki's a horrible person and she's showing it.

You've been waiting for it. No, only the last week. Prior to this, I just thought she was like an a-hole. Now I see, oh, you're willing while the country, you are willing right now. Yo, bro, there's different times to get down with this whole thing. The time that she chose to get down with this is the most wicked time you could have ever chose. So I was just here because Cardi is a good person.

And you're right, you are correct. She made the right choice. I just couldn't help but think about what a football spike it would have been. But either way, it was a football spike. Because while you're here unraveling, you're some weirdo Republican deep right, deep state lunatic wedding on Saturday, she was the musical performer on S&L crushing it. That's right. And while the whole audience at the Grammys cheered that you weren't there,

Can we isolate Trevor Noah? Just saying Nikki Minaj is not here tonight in the cheer. Because that is, you know that, Laura, that's what sent her. She stayed off Twitter for a while. That's what sent her. Oh, and she said something homophobic about Trevor Noah, too. Do you see that? Yeah, I think so.

Yep. She basically said Trevor Noah is gay. Everyone knows his boyfriend, but he's not out of the closet. She also doubled down on the homophobia against Don Lemon when she went on evil, maniacal white supremacist Stephen Miller's wife, Katie Miller's talk show. On there, she was extra homophobic towards Don Lemon. It's crazy that homophobia of all things has been her like bread and butter right now. That's crazy to me.

But what's crazy is how like, listen, I know it's just comments, but people are like, I don't care, I don't care. I'll still support her. Not enough. I got to tell you. Not enough to maintain it, you mean? Nah, it's not enough. I mean, the way to bar. You're coming around because didn't you ask early if we thought this would affect her?

You think this is really going to take her down. Well, I don't know if it'll, I think people will still hate listen to the album. That's what I said. If we put out an album right now, I think people will go listen and it will be talked about it. But you think it is hurting her? Well, I just tell, I can tell about the barbs that y'all not. The energy's not the same. Yo, the EL Army, if you're in the EL Army on my socials,

psh, yo, I was never sure that we would have a squad that could stand next to the bar. Are they fighting? I mean, a couple of people in the ELR Army was giving the shellac for the bars. They were fighting back? What? It's crazy. I love to see that. And by the way, I only got two people, but still.

No, I need those two. Can they come to mine, too? Yeah, y'all support. Elr Army is for the whole squad. Because the barbs are good at finding a message about their leader. But they're weak now. They do feel weak. It's weak.

Even the OVOOs ain't really rocking like they were. Really? Yeah, they was rocking for a minute. Speaking of... Then here they come. The OVOOs just showed up. Right away. They infiltrated our whole thing.

The whole thing. Speaking of the OVOOs, though, the other things I wanted to mention from last night, Tyler the creator's performance was awesome. No, when... You saw that? Never disappointed. No, that was next level, though. Tyler, just, man, I'm so proud of that guy.

was amazing. And Kendrick sets the record for all-time rap grimmies. Yep, 26. Kendrick opens his mouth. No, we do have to give Drake credit for that line. He was right. That was a line, right? No, when Kendrick opens his mouth, they give him a Grammy.

It's a fact. He set the record already. He's young in his career. It's early. He officially surpassed Jay-Z. He had 25. And let's be clear, when we throw out these accolades and we say these things, it happens because of the people that set a standard

before you got there. And because as the voting, the hip hop voting inside the Grammys matures, like if you really get to understand how the Grammys works, right? If you're, you know, a voter and you have produced a record or written a record or engineered a hip-hop record and you're voting on these hip-hop records, the people in there actually care about hip-hop enough to make sure that these representations happen. Like, that's important. I think that's an important piece of understanding how the Grammys works. is that there are people in there voting for R&B and hip-hop and black music that care enough to make sure

that A, the artists that are really putting forward great art and great music gets support. Yeah, you're 100% great. And thoughtfulness, right? Like, that's, I don't want that missed. No, that's true. But the three people all time who feel like they've been properly awarded in that category.

It's Jay-Z, Eminem, and Kendrick. Dave, listen. I think between them, it's like 70, something like that. or close to it. That's what you want to see. True. Yeah, that beep was the power going out on his iPad because in our... The OVOOs came.

The OVOOs came and more importantly, just as a team, we are not where we need to be yet. With like, you know, making sure iPads are charged before the show, you know, making sure audio and video is loaded. You know what I mean? Little things like that. We're going to get there, though. You think so? Yes. We have plans.

Yes. I didn't even know we were jumping on live this fast. I thought we had a whole other week before we were going to be live in here. Why would we wait a whole other week? Because you're leaving town. Yeah, I got to travel to Super Bowl. But I figure we jump on live. I got to be at the Super Bowl.

I got to be the Super Bowl. Listen, are you guys mad to have a job that can help us put this studio together? No, is that what you guys are mad about? No, mad that you go to the Super Bowl every year and don't invite us once in. You think I have extra tickets to the Super Bowl? I'm mad that you guys. You think me as an employee of the company that's sponsoring and supporting the Super Bowl, presenting the Super Bowl, that halftime. Yeah.

Not even the whole thing. Just the half the whole thing. You think I have the ability to invite people. I'm happy my key card still works with all the is shot. True. Very true. I have to really think about whether I think you get away with inviting someone. I think you could bring your lady.

You think? Yes. To the game, no. To the game. The sweet is that tight? No way to the game. They treat that sweet like... What?

Come on, man. You know... It's hard as a regular human being to get in the super. Very hard. You're not a regular human being. Most regular human beings watch football every week

and don't go to the Super Bowl. That's right. You watch no football and only go to the Super Bowl. That's right. So apparently you're not a regular person. Right, but once I go beyond my person and I go to the next person...

Yeah, no, that is when it always gets hard. It's hard, man. Yeah, it's hard. What are you doing? You're bringing your wife to work? You don't get to bring your wife to work? I don't. She never asked?

No. She doesn't want to go to the Super Bowl? I don't think so. I'll ask her. You want me to ask her? What if her team was playing? Jazz, you want to go to the Super Bowl? What if her team was playing?

I don't even think she has a team. You don't think? She's never said, no, she's never, she doesn't. She's never said this is my team. In any sport. In any sport? Wow. All right, guys, it's been fun.

She wants to talk about rap. That's what Jazz wants to. What? She wants to go to the verses, though. She might want to go to a verses. She might want to go to a verses, for sure. That yes, for sure. For sure.

Laura, we can't wrap. We haven't even done the guru. It's time for the gurus. Chime? No, you can't do it. I sent it to you. Don't say I didn't do the work. Let's see.

No. Outro. And you're not plugged in. No, that's not it. I sent you the chime. You don't want me to play the chime off my phone? Let's see if you got the chime. I got the chime.

You know why I got the chime? I got the chime. Time for the gurus. Ah. There you go. There we go. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com.

Ah, where we zen, zen, zen. Do you turn my mic down for one second? Burn the sagey, bro. Come on. Zen, zen, zen. Who's out there? Who needs us? Ah, so many people are in need of the gurus.

The guru, the original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com. Fought here. All. First of all, I love the show. Love the growth, love the plans, and I'm always rooting for you guys to win big. Okay, now to the mess in my life. My husband and I have been married for 12 years, together 19.

Next year is the big 20. Oh, wow. I'm 36, he's 38. You have the button number? Which one? Congratulations. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. That's just a long time.

That's since you were 16 years old, folks. Okay, go, go. And we basically grew up together. He's truly my best friend. We have three kids, 10, 6, and 4. So we are deep in the trenches of parenting. He works two jobs so I can stay home with the kids while finishing school to become a teacher. He's an amazing hands-on dad.

No gender rolls in this house. He mops, does laundry, handles bath time, whatever needs to get done. Here's where things shift. Recently, I lost a lot of weight and I had a major glow-up. I feel confident. I love getting dressed now. I enjoy shopping. And yes, I look good, okay?

I feel like a new woman in the best way. Honestly, I just wish he could enjoy this new body and the woman I'm growing into instead of worrying about it. But my husband has been getting really insecure. He constantly accuses me of cheating or talking to someone. He's gone through my phone when I'm not around. He makes comments about my outfits like I'm trying to impress somebody. At first, it felt almost silly like, oh, he's jealous. But this has been going on for about two years and it's getting worse.

Now it just makes me mad and honestly hurt. When I get upset, he says I have a guilty conscience. Bro, you're the one acting like you have a guilty conscience. And before anyone says it, no, I don't think he's cheating. I've checked thoroughly. There's nothing. He's never given me that vibe. This feels more like just his own self-esteem issue.

We've done therapy before, after our first child, and we actually communicate well overall. This is just the one issue that keeps growing, and I don't know how to handle it without it turning into a fight. How do I support my husband through his insecurity without dimming myself or feeling like I have to shrink to make him comfortable? Woo, this is deep. I know.

He needs therapy, Dola. And then he needs to unpack what's really going on with him and then y'all need to do it together. That's what I mean, because, yes, she should not have to, as she quote it or said, dim herself. And congratulations to you, by the way, by working hard and just changing your body. That sounds fine.

That's amazing. By the way, congratulations to him. Sounds like great news for him too. I don't know why my man's doing this. He's jealous. He should be happy for himself. Your wife just became a baddie. Yeah, but he's not about it.

She evolved and he's not a guy. He's a slouch. Yeah. And he knows, but that's really what's happening is he's looking in the mirror and going, I suck and she doesn't anymore. And I don't know what to do. I got to get my is together. I got to get my age together.

And he doesn't know how to articulate that and humble himself in the process. And how long have been there since they were? Forever, 20 years. So there were children. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what it is. And he doesn't.

He's never probably dated that much. Not at all. They've only been with each other. So he doesn't really know how to deal with any of this. He doesn't have the skills, man. Go get therapy. It's therapy for him. And then maybe you be like,

you want to jump on this fitness train? Let me help you. And someone, please tell him whatever he's saying to you. He's actually, what is that called? Self-proficizing. Yeah, or projecting. Project. Yeah, but almost he's going to make it so.

Oh, self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, there you go. that's what I was looking for. Yeah, you're going to make her one. You're putting the idea in her head. She's not even thinking about that. He wants a reason to be mad at her because the way it's made. And one day, y'all going to be in a bathroom together brushing your teeth

and you're going to have your stomach hanging, looking nasty. And she's going to look over and then look herself and be like, why am I still here? And this guy's negative? That's the thing. If you could just change your attitude, you're Gucci. Now you're putting the spotlight on yourself. I hope he'll be open to therapy by himself.

I hope. I hope she can talk to him. It might sound like you need to. to be open to the gym. And then it could be a family thing. But you are making that whole thing up. She could write back and say, no, that's not at all. He's just an a-hole. I mean, I'm just going on, you know, what she's

giving. Yeah, but she said nothing about... Because that's even worse if he's just a nail hole. I know because I... I was actually going to positive route where it's fixable. You can do some work. You can go work, get some cool. I hear you. It's a nice thought, but it's like that information's not there. Maybe. That information is not there, though. All she said was, he's jealous all the time, and I

don't know why. I like the version you told, because now he can go to the gym and they can Feel good together. But if he's been in good shape the whole time, he just can't handle it. I like where you're at. Break up with him. Burn this whole thing down. No.

I don't think I said that. Well, because if he's just an a-ho, why she's staying? He's not an a-hole. They've been together for so long. Laura, I'm going with what you made. This is your guy. There's your guy that you claim as a guru of it. It's the guy that you've been rocking with on this guru thing.

I haven't. But you made up a scenario that didn't happen. No, I didn't. I read the info and I reply. You go, listen, what do you do? to do is go to the gym. You guys let me be a guru, so I was trying to be positive, which is like, yo, hit some abs, change your diet, feel good about yourself, and then you stop being jealous of your woman. If that part is true, then you nailed it. She might be listening like, damn, that's not even

the problem, though. So don't we have to give both scenarios? Well, then if the problem is he's just mean about this. Like, this is, no, the problem is this has made him uncomfortable. You and I don't get it, so we're looking for what another thing could be. But some dudes do get that way. Okay, so boom, let's play, let's play this out. She improved herself. The person that she's with now is mad and treating her bad because she wanted to do better for herself. That's not why. He's doing it because she's hot and he's insecure and gets

jealous. But that is why then. But that's not. I don't know. Don't you think we're oversimplified? We just can't act like there aren't guys who are like this. We've seen them. And you're like, why? But wouldn't have he shown signs of this before? This wouldn't be new then. Well, no. Not if he. Not if he. she was really looking like a much worse version of herself and he was literally at home going, I'm fine.

No one's going after her. But then he's terrible. It all leads to terrible. So your version is the only one where he's not terrible. That's what I'm trying to do here, man. I guess I hope you're right. I think he's jealous. I think so. He's insecure and he's jealous. And that's the positive side.

If he's not insecure and jealous and he's just mean because you wanted to improve yourself. I just don't know. This is over, ma'am. Blow the whole thing up. I just don't know. She says they're great about communicating about everything except this. That must be very frustrating.

Because he's jealous. And he doesn't want to admit that he's jealous. Maybe there's someone out there who could write us, a dude who listens, who could explain that thing. Because that is not uncommon. The dudes who like have a hot wife and get all crazy and insecure. What is that about? But why won't you accept that he's jealous? Who?

You? What do you? Of course I am. That's what the question was. That's it. The question was, what does she do? Right. We know he's jealous.

It's built in. I'm saying, I don't know what you do. If it's not as simple as, oh, he just feels bad because he's unattractive. If it's just as simple as no. Guys, we're not going to act as if we don't go to club. We haven't been in a club. There's an attractive woman. Her man's not unattractive.

He's an attractive guy, too. And he's still yoking her up by the arm and acting like a crazy person. Because he's jealous. This is real life. No, because he's jealous. How do you fix that, though? Well, that honestly goes to, like, dig. in and getting in therapy and really figuring out what you're jealous about.

Because what that leads to, in my opinion, is it leads to you don't trust her. To be jealous of her just because she looks good and other people think she looks good for you to jump all the way over to yoking her up and acting like she's going to trip and stumble on somebody's dirt just because she's pretty. Right. You're a psychopath and you don't trust her. Right. You think that because she's a woman, all she knows is, oh, people like me.

So I want to put their joke in my mouth. But you just got somewhere. It can also feed into a certain level of like built-in sort of misogyny and sexism. Could be. Of like, like, nah, people didn't really want you before. But now that they do, I know what women are like. And I can't trust you because you're going to shove it. Okay, we get the point.

All right. So hopefully, listen, hopefully he's open. In the ear. Wow. She can't resist it. Hopefully he's open to therapy. Maybe you start couples and then switch over to like Jim. No, I think that's a good idea.

Yeah. You'd say get in there together and maybe with someone else in the room. Yeah. They're like, hey, we should talk about this separately. This isn't a, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And then hopefully eventually it'll be both here in the gym. There you go.

Hopefully. So say the gurus. Wow. We don't even have a clothes on it. Yeah, we do. We do. I don't have it. Yeah, you do.

No, I don't have a clothes on the guru. Oh, no. Our clothes is usually just playing the outro. Oh, okay. That's what we've been doing. We don't live in the sweeper era anymore. You know what I mean? I miss the sweeper era.

I like a nice clothes. No, that was nice. But the outro era is kind of fired, though. We never had an outro era. Yeah, we never did. It was a commercial. That was it. I like the outro.

Hey, please subscribe, man. We have over a thousand subscribers on Patreon now. Yeah, man, really cool. That's awesome. We are super grateful for that. Laura, I thought you were having a merch update today. What happens? Every day you ask you for a merch update.

I thought we were launching a new thing this week. Not yet. Calate it. I thought we were. I thought we talked about to do. last week. Hey, chat on my line, did we not talk about launching a new thing this is Monday? The way this man hits her with the, yo, what's

the merch update? Yo, I'm shipping it tomorrow. Next day, did it arrive yet? Merch update. Listen, I like customer service. Yo, we need a merch update. I like overnight deliveries on my online orders. All the orders are shipped. I will say. All this is waiting seven to ten days for a t-shirt ain't popping. That's what it is. Welcome to the

real world. We're not Target, you know? You know what I'm saying? Yo, can y'all take pictures of yourselves in the t-shirts and tag us? I really want to see you in them. I like that. I saw people opening up the packages and like showing the shirts, but I want to see you in them. I got it. I like that. Reson's got one on today.

He finally got a new t-shirt. He's hype. He got all the kids over there. He never gets anything. Yeah, no, no. They got everything new. Yeah. He got a new t-shirt. He was like, hell. The only thing he gets is new kids. That's the only thing new he gets.

He's dying. He's dying. Hey, we'll be here tomorrow, man. And remember, I'm traveling this week. So for all of y'all, I get mad that we're not live or I'm my technology. If we're not in the same room, guys, trying to hit you five days a week. That's all we're trying to do. Trying to be here, talk a little issue.

Shout to everybody who won at the Grammys, man. On the out, can I hear, do you have Bad Bunny? We don't have Bad Bunny in Espanio. Maybe we'll play that for tomorrow. There we go. I want to hear that. I bro laura or Rosenberg. Thank you for tuning in.

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