The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 28.) Don Lemon Opens Up On Arrest + Lil Wayne’s BIG Super Bowl Plans (2/3/26)

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

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Just don't call it a podcast. Okay. Ebro-Lar Rosenberg. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Tuesday vibes. I like the tight shots. Good-looking shot.

Who thunk of that? That was my wife. Our most loyal viewer. Shut up his hat. Yo, give her a cutter a check. By the way, don't think she hasn't said, should I just come in? Yes. I just come in there.

Absolutely, you should. I'll say, babe, I don't know. I don't know if we need more. time together, but it would take one day. Literally it would take 30 minutes. Oh, to come like just generally check things out. Yeah. Or she can check things out from

where she's at. She definitely has thoughts, though. But this is an, I think this is a big improvement. We didn't need that front monitor look previously, right? It looks better. Looks clean. It looks clean. Oh, I have volume on here? Sorry. I got my iPad on. All right, it's off. Here we go. This is so I

can view the chat live during the show. You're looking like me over there with the tech. With the techie. Hey, yeah, yeah. You don't know how to work an iPad. Be honest, you don't have an iPad. Yeah, I do. You do?

My wife gave me one. And now you came me one. Now you do. All I do is get gifted. I get gifted iPads. So you were straight phone and laptop. That was it. I had an iPad for a long time.

And then I flew to Houston or Dallas sometime last year. Uh-huh. Got off the flight. Made it literally like an hour. And I was like, damn it, I left my iPad in the front pocket. I remember this. Bro, that just happened immediately. Immediately hit them.

Never got it back. I remember this story. Never got it back. This past trip. And you know what? My man doesn't want to admit it, but I know he left it in the pocket because that's what he did last time too. They just take this stuff from the pocket.

They don't care. The first time, I actually got it back. Listen, if I'm one of those people that go and clean the plane, I'm keeping everything in that backpack. What are you going to do with an iPad? Figure out somebody to reset it and give it over.

Yeah, there's somebody who can reset an iPad, hard set, hard reset. that R reset, whatever. It's annoying, though. Like, you would think that within an hour you could get it back. No, if I'm cleaning your snot rags and all your little snacks, I'm holding this iPad. Man. Guaranteed holding an iPad.

My man also lost his gold grills on a plane one time in the pocket. Yo, hit him with the button for having the grills on the plane. Please. You know how crazy I started on it? Yeah, my husband left some gold teeth. They were like, what? How do you even know what to, what do they even look? Congratulations.

You play for the record everyone who gets grills loses them in a napkin I know Brod them away at a restaurant or Invisaline or retainers I lost like three of them Well Invisaline is acceptable though because you need that to improve your teeth I got to tell you guys I don't think I could like fix my lips To order a grill to be like hey I think I'm gonna do it and I'm gonna start wearing this now I don't I don't think I could do it I think I'm happy you can't do it could do it I don't think I could but I'm happy you can't That's not the look you want for the show. I don't know. I just don't think that's the look you want for yourself.

If you could, would you get Top or Bob? Yo, somebody said, somebody said in Rosenberg some grills. We need to see what this looks like. Because, yo, if you want to see the internet come for you for being a culture vulture, you know what I'm going to wear grills all of a sudden? Oh, my goodness.

They treat me like I wear grills now. When I give an opinion. Although, guess what? The guys who wear grills are beloved. Well, all of them? I don't think so. Just Paul. Just Paul.

Just Paul Wall. And he's a very lovely guy. And he's legit and from a real place that's a real reporter called. And he's a very, he's a very charming individual. Listen, today on the show, I think there's a couple things we didn't have time to get to yesterday, like the heavyweight boxer getting his toupee knocked off in Brooklyn. Yeah. Tiafimo Lopez in that same night getting retribution for being racist.

Yeah. I didn't know Tiafimo Lopez was considered like a race-baiting. Yeah. A-ho. I missed this whole headline. He started it like, I'd say a year or two. after he popped off, like maybe two years in, he started with the nasty, racist, weird. Lame.

Yeah, it was very whack. And now he said, now he's apologizing for slavery. It was a crazy clip. Say, wait, what? I've never seen someone go that far from racist to like, yo, man, I'm just sorry about slavery. No, I'm not, am I making this up? He literally, you're not exaggerating. No, I swear to God he apologized for slavery.

I don't know what he meant exactly. Yeah, okay, we can't get that clip loaded. Oh, you have that? Oh, wait. Yo, look at Rassan. Out of the gate. Yo, man, I need regular applause or a bomb. The Rassan Bascom bomb?

Would he have something? Yeah, when Rassan gets it right? I don't have it. I don't have the bomb either. Oh, yeah, I do. There you go. The Rassan bascom bomb. You get that, my playboy.

Let's see the Tia Femmao Lopez. Apologizing for slavery. Every time, got to put respect to it. To all my brothers and sisters, I love you guys. Always salute to the power that it be above. I thank you guys. I'd never want. wanted anything to harm you guys at all.

So for that, my condolences to all you guys and to the slavery and everything that's ever happened mentally. To the slavery and everything that's ever happened. You never thought you'd get that. I mean, I didn't know T. Afima Lopez needed to do that. Oh, my God. Yo, can you imagine getting your ass beat so bad that you apologize for slavery? The racist out, that man.

He never seen that. He beat the racist. Yo, let me see that one more time. No, you got to see it. Oh, my God. Every time, got to put respect to it. To all my brothers and sisters, I love you guys. Always salute to the power that it be above.

I thank you guys. I never wanted anything to harm you guys at all. So for that, my condolences to all you guys and to the slavery and everything that's ever happened mentally. What is the mentally mean? Nah, listen. He's talking about the mental slavery? He's talking about all of it.

He's talking about post-traumatic slave disorder, you know, all of the trauma. He's talking about all of that. By the way, Tia Fimo, send that script over to everybody at the federal. I'm gonna say, would you like to get that from the Trump administration? I'd like to get it from any administration. He looks so nuts.

He looks like Will Smith and Hitch after the allergic reaction. No, it's bad. It wasn't as bad as a... Listen, at least Big Baby Miller won. That was a guy with the toupee. Yeah, he won the fight. So it turned out to be great. You know what I mean?

He's popping, went to the breakfast club yesterday. Nice. He's hot outside. Did he wear the toupee at the breakfast? No, he went straight with the ball and the little rim still around it. He kept the rim? I think it's still there. Just take it off.

But like, because he won. It really played out great. That's right. You lose that fight. That is the worst moment of your life. You win the fight? It's now like a great marketing tool. Tupay was holding him back.

Let's watch it again. No, it's the Tupé's nuts. I never see anything like that. Is it coming off? The damning commentary was calling it too. Oh, damn. Flacking up and down. But a fighter is getting the hair knocked off his head.

No. Wig split. The definition of getting your wig puts back. The final line is right. Oh. Oh my goodness gracious. No, he knew. He had what he told.

He's got to a lot. So it's that for you, right? I get to my mama house and I had some shampoobiles under her table. And I shan't put it. It was like a morning and bleach. I already lost my hair like two days ago. So I called my man. And let's get that shit all real quick.

Oh. Wait, so he's blaming his baldness on. No, so I guess I imagine that's a true story then. Why else would you do something that? stupid if you if it hadn't just happened so you felt crazy you would think just go with the baldy though bro why would you do that just shave it all off so i don't understand he went he used shampoo that was like ammonia and bleach yeah and he said it not took his hair congratulations you plagued if that's true oh my god wait some he used shampoo and his mom's shower uh-huh i think it was

nair nair is a lotion that you it will rub it right off and it's a hair remover and then you rinse it off. It's a herrable room. Blime me, I used to use Nair. And that's still, congratulations. You plagued yourself. Wow. Tiofimo Lopez got the, the racist beat out of him, and another man got his two-play knocked off. It was a great night. It was a good night for the show, though. It really did get a ton of conversation. Like, when I was in Saudi watching my Instagram that day, it was all. And my whole timeline was his hair. It took over. For you or no? I saw it a bunch. Yeah, yeah. It was a lot. Does that mean I'm now? Am I down with black social media?

No, I think you're in sports social media, and I'm finally getting my sports algorithm up. Got it. That's really what's happening. But it had to be black, too. It was everywhere. Someone losing their wig in the middle of a fight. I saw it too, and it was in all the messy blogs. Made the mess, too.

Now, did someone pick up the toupee? Because I read that he, like, threw the toupee into the ground. If he threw that, that's a valuable toupee. No. That's a piece of history right there. He had it later. Oh, he kept it back. There's a picture.

Oh, God. He had it later. Got it. Got it. Got it. All right. Yo, shout out to Scooby to Don. Who's this?

Super chat. Oh, yo. How much, what? $10? That was just $1.99. Hey, listen, whatever you could afford. I'm, you know, I feel some type of way to y'all throw money at us like strippers on the chat. Reese the Lumber.

Happy Black History Month. Happy Black History Month. We are here. So. See, we got to, we do full transparency here, right? That's what we said. We were mostly going to try. We try that, yeah.

I wanted to play Shawnee Culture's Black Fact on the program. Yeah. Everybody told me not to do it. No. I didn't think it was a good idea. And you guys thought it would be because it would seem shady to Shawnee Colt. No, no, it would be shady. And then you would pretend it's not shady and it would be shady.

And he would still crack jokes. And it would definitely be shady. And then he might call Shawnee later and be like, yo, I played it. And it still wouldn't make it feel you. No. He's like, because Shawnee knows. He was like, you were cooking me? Yeah.

And he knew it. Yeah. Because it was a weird, it was a weird black fact. It felt like. So I haven't seen it. It felt forced. It felt forced. So when you guys put it in the chat, I hadn't watched it.

I was just like, let's play it. Because really what I wanted to do is I wanted to play it every day to see if he got. Because when we did Black Fact with Shottie Culture, we would get like four for the month because he would go on vacation. He's got a cruise this month. And it would be like one, two, skip a few. You forget. So I was really. What did you skip a few?

So I was really trying to track him. to see if we could get to like, you know, at least 20 for the month. That was, I didn't know what the content was. And you're telling me that if Shawnee did 20 for the month at hot, you wouldn't be shading him? Then I was going to shade him. Got it, got it, got it. I was going to wait for that.

That was my ultimate plan. Now, I'm saying right now, we need to bring Shoney Culture back to the show. I feel like at this point, you guys know I'm a wrestling fan. That's right. I feel like at this point, the way things are going. This is really speaking out loud to the people. All right. The way things are going, it would be such.

a surprise at this point. Like if one day you turn on the show and Shawnee was back, it would actually be like, oh, ish. Like it really does feel like, and I didn't know where we would be six weeks in. Yeah. It feels six weeks in like everybody who's not here is not here. Am I wrong?

You mean as far as our team? Yeah. Like it feels like they're not. Is it our team or former team? Former team. It feels like our old family, our family members who are no longer part of this team. Yeah.

To see any of them walk in would be like a holy-ish kind of moment. You know what I'm saying? People always ask for cast. Would you bring him for whitish Wednesday? Can he do a pop-up? And I'm like, I don't think he's allowed. Well, so, and that's the other thing I don't quite understand, right?

We aren't another radio station. Ebro. Well, no, I understand where management would be like, we don't want you to do that or we're going to let you go because of it. But technically speaking, where is it written that, Because guess what they all do over there? Jump on podcasts and shows all the time. People do podcasts all the time.

You, in fact, Marrow's soul on point with his promo game, in everything they shot him doing for the promo of the show, he was promoting other stuff. He was wearing his logo for his podcast. Yeah. It was all a promo play. So why would they care if they popped up here? But the fact is, it would put a spotlight on them.

Yeah. No, I know that, but technically speaking. Technically, shmechnically with these people. No, I know that for sure. We already know other people getting the, I mean, listen, there's a. The National, what is it, the National Labor Review Board? If it's not written anywhere that they can't jump on other podcasts, you can't just...

A lot of people in the chat, a lot of people in the chat saying bring Shawnee, bring cast. I even see one bring DJ John. Then I see a, please don't bring, please don't bring Shawnee. Why not? But most people, most people are saying they'd love to be shot. Whoever said don't bring Shawnee, you're a bitch! Stop being like that. Whoa.

And Laura, you're good with Juanito pulling up? Where are you in Juanito at today? I'm like, I guess. I didn't call him on his birthday. When was his birthday? Yesterday. Happy birthday, Juanito. Send him this clip.

I didn't know. You guys know I'm bad with birthdays. Shoney wouldn't have forgot. I'm bad, though, because I did. Yesterday was a big one for Michael K. So I saw you post that. It was 65. Yo, happy birthday, Michael K.

You know Michael K reached out to me when the whole thing unraveled. Yes, he used that when he was talking about how bad a friend I was. He used that he's spoken to Ibrough more than he's spoken to me. Okay. I know. Wait, why were you guys beefing? We weren't, but he just, you know, he likes to, you know, ham it up. Yeah, and then, you know, that's the only way we get talked about.

Our radio station, they only write about us doing something if it's like internal beef in some way. But, so I gave him a big shout out yesterday. And then I realized, I was like, I never hit Juanito. And I don't know what birthday it was, what number it was for John. I don't know either. 45. That's not a nothing. I mean, it's something.

But I hit him today. Why is 45 kind of nothing and 65 is big? Because of retirement. Retirement, yeah. That number was made. But now, I was arguing with Alan Hahn yesterday on my show. All right. He said he doesn't think there's anything he cares about, birthday-wise, between 50 and 90.

He's a lot. I said, have 75. 75's a hammer, no? That's a big one. Hey, oh, Han. out of here. Yeah. Shut up.

What are you things big? You're saying stuff. What do you think is big after 50? 50, 60, 65, 70. After 50, it's a celebration. Now, you made it in another five. Oh, my God. That's a low bar, Laura.

I'm sorry, but. You think that's around the corner? No, I mean, in my family was. Our water, our food. My mom and dad died in mid to late 60, 70s. Oh, you never know. That was a big. That's a broad number, though.

That's 10 years. He went all the way up to 70, though. No, my dad was 60 something. My mom was seven. 70? 70. On the dot, that's actually not great. But when I was having this combo yesterday with Alan and Don LaGreca,

neither of their dads made it out of their 50s. Neither. Yeah, my dad's 62. 62? Yeah. Yo, your dad was mad young when he had you. That was only a few years ago. Hold on.

That math's not mathing. That's crazy. He was really young. Yeah. And the only 62 was young. Listen, anything I'm told by people in their 60s. Like, it's dramatically, like, I work out with people in their 60s. I cycle with people in their 60s.

And they're like, yo, this 60s thing is a fight. Like, it's a fight. It's on. What do you mean just because it's hard on their body? Everything's hard. Everything's hard. If you're not getting checked up, if you're not pushing yourself, if you're, like, not on it with food, like, everything is hard. And maybe that's not for everybody, but the people I know in there.

60s is definitely. Well, you also, this is the time. I mean, I had this, I'm listening, I've been meaning to say this for like five days. I'm listening to Common's book. Okay. Common has a book about his, uh, his wellness journey. Because you guys know, common has been vegan. You put this out a little while ago. Yeah, I don't know. It just popped up as a free thing on Spotify. So I know you're not

a Spotify guy, but I'm still stuck there because they have my playlist and stuff. You know you can change your playlist though. Yeah, it's time. What is, what is it? Listen, Spotify doesn't do anything for me. At least Apple does things for my friends. I should go over to Apple. Apple does something for you right now. It's easy to use. It's great.

So anyways, it popped up there for free, though. It's called And Then We Rise. I think I interviewed him on Apple about this book. A Guide to Loving and Taking Care of Self. And so I started that book. You know how good Commons voice sounds, by the way, to hear you just talking about life? Remember, you played one second.

I was like, that's common? You're like, ooh-oh, what is he talking about? What's he saying? So when I was traveling, I was listening to the book, and my body was super upside down. Like, that flight, I don't know if you. you guys ever have this way after a long, long flight, my stomach was like bound up and bad when I got there.

I really was not feeling it. And so the combination of feeling sick and listening to the book really reminded me how, like, I'm 46. This is truly the age to if you're going to get it together in a way where you really can make a difference. It's now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, not to say that I've been a wreck for a long time, but I could be better.

And this is the time. Like, Ebro's been on a committed be better for like at least 10 joints. At least 10. Well, since my dad, my dad died was when I really started. Your dad, which was, oh, nine. That's over 15 years ago. That was when I started like, you know, I can't be eating cheese every day. That's when the grilled cheese started sending him to the hospital.

You know, that was a cascadia. Ah, the case of dia. C-G-I-F, I was done. Send this man to the hospital. But so, by the way, it's a fantastic book. If anyone gets like a minute, it really is. Because his story is simple and one step at a time. And he's talking about it's just not like judgmental at all.

You know, common's just a man, bro. So we should have comment on the show. I absolutely agree. I love whenever he's on the show. And I realized how much like we talked to comment about a lot of stuff, but there's still so much more. Have we ever when he sat here for our interviews talked to him about being a ball boy for the Bulls? Nope. I didn't even know that.

You didn't? Nope. Never heard that. He was there for Jordan's rookie year. Never heard that. What? Yeah. Hit the button for both of this.

Congratulations. You played yourself. Last night, we got Kimmel. We got the Kimmel Clippers on. Don Lemon was on with Kimmel telling his story of what went down when he was apprehended by federal agents, by the Trump regime, by the furor. And it's Gestapo. That's right. Let's check out the clip.

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protesters interrupted the Sunday service, and you followed them in. You interviewed various people in the church. And afterward, well, you were arrested. Now, first I want to ask you, is there a difference between whether those protesters had the right to go into a church and whether a credentialed journalist like yourself had the right to go in and cover them going into the church? Well, listen, obviously, I'm in the middle of this. I can't say a lot. There's a lot that I cannot say. But what I will say is that I'm not a protester. I went there to be a journalist. I went there to chronicle and document and record what was happening. I was following that one group around. And so that's what I did. I reported it on them. But I do think that there is a difference between a protester and a journalist. So the next day, Trump reposts something from someone saying that you should be arrested. You should be sentenced in prison for violating the face act.

And at this point are you thinking, oh, I might get arrested? Well, not until they started, you know, the drip, drip, drip of people starting to talk about it. I think Todd Blanche and Pam Bondi and all those folks talked about it. And here's the interesting thing, though, is that my, after that, you know, I retained an attorney. And the attorney reached out to them and said, basically, I understand that you have an interest because your folks have been talking about it. And so if you are serious about this, then let's do it the right way. He's perfectly willing to self-report it, which means turn yourself in. And so we don't have to go through this whole rigmarole and never heard back from them.

That is customary in a situation like this that someone would be allowed to turn themselves in. Yeah, people who are accused of much worse things than I am accused of doing is they are allowed the courtesy. I mean, Donald Trump was allowed the courtesy to turn himself in when he was. That's right. He did. Yeah. And so. Wow. Yeah. And so Don Lemon goes on to talk about how basically they were trying to embarrass him. And they want to intimidate. And they, you know, because that's a great point.

I didn't even think about that. What, that they wouldn't let him turn. Well, that they reached out to him. And he was already like, yeah, no, he could turn himself in. He has a lawyer. They reached out. There was correspondence already happening. Why would you show up with 10, 12 people to apprehend Don Lemon?

Because the only point. And this is what makes them yet again so stupid. The Trump administration thought it would be a win for them to do that. I know, I know. And we all knew immediately that is a huge win for. for Don Lemon. He goes on and he talks about how hard, you know, they treated him like crab. Right.

But once he was inside that the federal agents, like the FBI, actually, the FBI was actually, he was like, yo, they were actually great. Courteous. Well, but they weren't helpful. Because he probably got to a point where he wasn't dealing with either like actual Trump sick offense. They might have just been people who have the job. And that's his point. He was like, the first batch had 30 days of training. The second batch is actually people who've been doing this for years.

He's like you can feel the difference. Yeah, I mean, listen, not everybody who's working for this administration by a long shot agrees with everything that's happening. And there's people who've been there for years. Well, and also remember, the ICE thing is very much a post-9-11. Didn't exist before. Oh, it only was created. Yes. Now, they had an immigration, right?

Like there was immigration enforcement, but ICE as patrolling around, that was definitely a post-9-11 thing, starting 2001. I was listening to an episode of The Daily yesterday about Tom Holman. Yeah. And whether or not democratic states and cities will play nicely with ice. Because like previously, up until now, up until this thing got as crazy as it was, like the Obama administration, local authorities would work with ice. Listen, here in New York City, you know how,

Often we would hear about, you know, immigration being in the Bronx, South Bronx, or whatever. I first started hearing the term ICE getting thrown around loosely on our show. Yeah. When you guys would be talking about like, oh, ICE is up here. This is several years ago. That's right. Now, it wasn't the same thing. No.

But it was still, hey, you got to watch out because they're trying to match a lot. Well, no, they had specific people they were going for based on a process. But other, but regular people would still worry about it, right? like you could still get made of car. If you had family members who didn't have papers or some, regular people who were citizens or had their paperwork were not worried about ice. Getting snatched up, right? But now people who are in the system, in the process,

some literally just one interview away from getting their actual green card. Right. All of them are getting snatched up. But they said the worst of the worst. What was? You still doing this? Congratulations. You played yourself.

You still doing this? They said the rapists and the murderers and the... F*** out of here. And the sex offenders. And for clarity. anybody watching this wherever you're watching this. I think it's 80%, 70-something percent of the people that they've detained.

No criminal right. Yeah. Yeah. And their excuses, well, they came here illegally and that's their crime. That makes them... But that's not a crime. People don't understand that. It's cruelty, guys. It's cruelty. They just... If you flew into the United States and you overstayed your visa, hypothetically speaking,

I think it's a civil misdemeanor, which is the equivalent of like... Nothing. Not paying parking tickets or something? You're saying not the worst of the worst? No, not by a far stretch. I don't know if you guys want to get to the worst or the worst. Do we want to take this into a bad place?

Well, real quick, before we do, because I'm still on that subject. Yeah. I did want to shout out Shibuzi, who, when he won his Grammy, had an awesome statement about immigrants. I don't know if you guys saw Shabooz. But I thought he was fantastic.

He got some backlash off of that. Of course he did. And then I do think that the jelly roll conversation is interesting. That jelly roll didn't want to say anything but then said I'm going to say something this week. But here's the thing. But jelly roll did say in his

acceptance speech, which he made all about Christ, he's a pretty religious guy. He did specifically say Christianity is not for one party. Christianity's for everyone. So I was curious about where he's in a go. And then he did, everyone's killing him because he didn't want to say anything.

But he didn't say, I think it's, it's not that he didn't want to say anything. I think it was he tried to act like he didn't have a phone and he didn't know what was going on and he didn't have a ping. That's the, that's the, congratulations. He played yourself. Yeah, he's like, look, I don't even have social media. As a matter of fact, I don't even have a phone for you. Like, what are we talking?

Who am I? What's happening? And then people started pulling up all the Instagram photos of him, I think, with Christie, Noam and other. Oh, no, that's not. I don't know why is a Christie's himself. There was one of him at the, um, at yes. with Trump with Trump.

Guys, I don't know if you guys, he's a country, he does country music. I don't know if you, the population of people that he sells his tickets for and music consumes his music is, they're into this. But there's way more to it than that with jelly roll. Number one, he was a rapper for a very long time.

That means nothing. I'm just putting out there. To me anyway. I hear you, but hear me out. So was kid rock. You know what I'm saying? Fact. I'm going to give you a point on that one.

But jelly roll is definitely not kid rock. No, I'm not saying he, I'm just saying you said he was a rapper. No, that's a great point. He was a kid rock was a DJ. People using people using, people using art forms that were created by marginalize and then becoming, you're right. That doesn't. Not valid. But really great guy in my experience, right?

Like really great guy. It would surprise. Seemingly nice guy. Seemingly nice guy. And I did find one other thing interesting when he said, he said, they asked him who he wants to see at the Super Bowl and he, one day or whatever. And he's like, I would love it if it comes to. Nashville for there to be a country one, right? And when he named the ax to be on the country one,

my man named like five known progressive country acts. Okay. And then eventually said, and young people like Morgan Wallen and named like one other person. But I did find it interesting that his start was, Tim McGraw, Garne, but you're looking for, right, these are all great people. You're looking, you want, he is good. By the way, he is good.

He's just not brave. He's not the chicks He's not the Dixie chicks He's not willing to rest He said he said this week We're gonna hear something So he gave us a tease Really broke stop

Come on man Yeah I guess you're right It's not correct Listen he flubbed it He gets the button He's probably a nice guy You play you know I'm not up here to fry jelly roll

But I'm definitely not gonna be like Yo but he used to be a rapper Would you ever have a fried jelly roll Think about Is it good? I don't know It sounds good I'm not up here to fry jelly roll

Sounds crazy No you're right You're right But I'll tell you this I tell you, what I see in Jelly Roll is someone who wants to be a nice guy, make great music, and bring people together. Boom. When challenged with something controversial, he doesn't have, he doesn't know where to,

where to go or what to say. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And most people are going to fry him for that. They're definitely going to be like, yo, you're being a little bitch. And, fuck out of here. I'm going back with the old Breaking Bad bitch. Had to.

And on the Shabuzi thing, what did he get fried for? Because he said immigrants built this country. Well, not exactly, sir. That's. Congratulations. He pledged yourself. I think that, oh, they were saying, like you were saying not black people? Yes.

I mean, you mean the word immigrant? I think he could, he should have said helped. He, he, I have to, I might have to rewatch it. But either way, don't we think that's probably, I mean, he's a black American man. Well, no, he's, he's first generation, Nigerian. First generation. He's Nigerian. Oh, that's right.

I thought he was American. He is American. No, no, but he's first generation. His parents are Nigerian. His name is Nigerian. He is not a descendant of people who are enslaved. He is not a descendant of enslaved African people. Got it.

Okay. But don't we still imagine that was a misspeak rather than... Yeah, Shibuzzi's great guy. Like, where people... I mean, I don't think he meant it that. I don't think he meant it that way. He was trying to say the right thing. Yes.

That's how it's a good. But listen, it's a sensitive time, people. People are sensitive. And remember, they're watching Shibuzzi because he makes country music. But is he going to pull a Post Malone? But that's all the more reason. Is he going to pull a jelly roll and claim? You know, people are going to be like, well, he's black, and he said it.

But no, you realize how annoyingly sensitive this is? He tried in the moment to say the right thing. Yeah. But then, so I assume it was black people who are then mad at him saying, no, but you're not included. And he is black. And a descendant of Africa, his parents are African, and he's black. And he just tried to do right to represent for immigrants. And then the black people were like, hey, but what about us?

Guys, can you try to do the right thing? It wasn't, it wasn't an A, what about us? I would imagine. And I didn't see it, Laura. I'm imagining it was a stone cold. it wasn't a what about us it was more like okay that's not but immigrants did help build this country

that's what he meant if you would have said helped I think that he wouldn't have gotten so if he threw in one more word problem solved but also people are looking to your point people want to fry somebody and everybody can get it right now I just thought as a country artist it was the opposite of jelly roll it was a very he stepped up there took the moment and said I'm going to talk about this ice thing and this immigration well because Shibuzi doesn't have to be afraid

you know why because he tried to play nice and they was playing with his name at the damn country music awards. And you know what else? He's being nice and he's still being positive and they didn't even give him awards for his big ass record. Remember that? They kind of snubbed him a few times. And they made fun of him on stage, remember? They was making

fun of his name. No, I remember very well. Well, he knows. I mean, Shabuzzi knows. And really, his name, Shabuzi was, as he explained it to me, his football coach. Yeah. Because his real name is Shabweze. That's unclean. I was pretty good. I don't Listen, he's not here to tell us if it's good.

But it's sound fleem. You see me? Chabweza, say I'll get on fire. Hey, yo, Laura, are you ready for the rundown? You want an intro? Yes. Laura got the rundown turned out. Let's go.

Super chat. Thank you, man. A shout to Super Chat in a second. What you got, Laura Stav. All right. Well, Jake Pohl announced something special, a series of a specially curated listening session.

All right. So the one in New York is going to be at the Brooklyn Public Library. Hosted by DJ Naila Simone. And it's supposed to be a night of top-tier lyricism and discussions. So it should be a lot of fun. That's on Friday, February 6th. It sounds like a lyricist lounge type of vibe. I like it.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Intuitive. Books. Smart people and hip-hop. I didn't know. Where's Black Dante when you need him? I didn't know if that event was, is like her regular event, books in, what's called the end?

Bars and books. It's a dope idea, though. I love it. I love it. He's also holding special listening sessions in, of course, North Carolina, Baltimore, Houston, and other locations to be announced. All right. But they're all like discussions, you know, interactive sessions of blah, blah, blah.

They're not like your typical listening session. That's what he's saying? We know that for it to be a fact. And when you swipe through all the flyers, it has like little tidbits of one of them is like a write-out also. Do you think that there's any chance now that we've been unceremoniously dismissed from commercial radio that Jay Cole would actually have a conversation with us at some point? Unceremoniously dismissed from commercial radio is great. Because we have a talk to a million years, man. Hit him an ass.

You ever got him on Apple even? No, he doesn't do any of, you know, Cole's not. He doesn't. He did Angie. He did Andy. I look, I like the fact that Cole doesn't do interviews. I'm into it. We used to see him all the time.

Yeah, I mean. I'm into it. Selfishly as a hip-hop fan. Not selfishly as like for my job. Of course, I would love to have him up. But there's... You like that he doesn't overexpose himself. Well, and I like that it's all in the music.

Right. Like, I think there's artists who they do so much outside of their music and then they wonder why people don't listen to their music. Right. And it's like, well, because they got all the info. Yeah, that's fact. That's fact. I'd still like to have a chat with him.

Of course. Of course. But he's not promoting, you know, the last time I talked to me, he's like promoting who that. What year was it? No, it wasn't literally that. I did a couple of things with them over the first few years, but it's been, I mean, forever.

But it's not as if he's running around doing it. No, he doesn't run around doing interviews. Also, little Wayne had some words about the Grammys. I don't know if you guys saw this, but he said, congrats to the nominees and winners. Wasn't included as usual. Well, I gotta work harder, as usual. Well, just make a good album if you want to be included.

Wait, what would Wayne? He dropped Carter Six this year, didn't he? And that was supposed to be. being in it. He thought that was... I mean, it was good. No, I mean, not really. It was good. It was good. Does it require your voice to get a little higher? Yes. It was cool. It was cool. It was cool. You sound like a bird all of a All right. Also, I'm just announced. Lil Wayne is set to perform at a virtual halftime show during Super Bowl week.

So yeah, it's official. Hit me, hit me, Bascom. He's headlining the show inside the hugely popular or mobile game Clash Royale. I mean, he's getting a bag, guys. Like, are we supposed to be shady towards them? Is he not supposed to do the bag? Like, what are we saying? Last year, he went on the little way and why didn't they pick me tour.

Oh, I forgot about that. And then the next year, when we're all in for bad bunny and everyone's locked in, listen, if you can get money, who cares? Enjoy yourself. He might be getting a few million dollars. He could. In which case, who cares?

I could see it. It's for a gambling site? Yeah. Oh, he's definitely getting a few million. Either, I don't need clash royale or a game. I don't know what that is. No, enjoy yourself. But speaking of Super Bowl halftime show, did you guys see that the Kid Rock

Turning Point USA show has been an out. Shut your white mouth. So he's going to be performing with Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, and Gabby Barrett. Congratulations. You played yourself. Not Kid Rock, listen close. Here's the crazy part. You're so washed out here.

Oh, God. You didn't even. get a country person I've heard of. Like I, maybe some of those people are well known. Griffin, you know what even? Maybe. Even Griff. Griff knows everybody white. He doesn't even know who they are. That is crazy. He can't get

anyone to stand next to you. It's the All-American halftime show. Not even Nikki Minaj? I mean, you know what? Kid Rock, make the call. You'll make the call. She's there all the time anyway. This is her new role. She might do it. She might do it. Why not? Like if you're Nikki Minaj right now and they got the right bag to pop up. Or they'll give you the actual gold card that you were trying to get. They gave her a fake jump.

Yeah, you know how crazy. We have it. People think we spent a lot of time on Nikki. We could have done a whole show on the gold card was fake. Congratulations. Although I hate when I post about this because for the next three days, my mentions are just psychos going back and forth. Oh, so the bar, the bars are tough eyes still.

Yeah. It's not even like they're not the same as they used to be. Okay. But they're going back and forth. and then you'll get like the Cardi B people fighting with them in your comments. And you're like, I don't even know what you guys are talking about anymore. That's all I see when I open Twitter. That's my crazy.

I just want to say, EL Army, we're looking for, you know what I mean? If you work from home and you have time to harass mean people on social media, sign up for the EL Army. We need one of those, you know, EL Army wants you post me. You want to be Uncle Sam? Yeah, we want one of those posts. No, Ebro as Uncle Sam is a crazy AI concept that we need. Oh, God. Sorry, you should have more stories of it?

Yes, yes, yes. We're running down. So Tia announced that this coming album is this final album. Oh, he's done. Yo, his new song with Ferrell was fire. No, I like the new joint with Ferrell. Super fire. Here is a video of him talking about it.

You got new music out, though, right? Yeah, yeah, man, it's a blessing, man. Let him know, produced by Carolina. My first single off my final album. He's got an askout on, too, or something. Final? Yeah. You're going to be done?

Are you breaking news right here right now? They should know it. They should I already know it. No, but why? I mean, man, it's time. God gives us. I just made $80 million in a lawsuit. Why am I still wrapping?

I have many gifts that God has given me, man, that I can spend more time and attention on and spend more time at home, my family and my grandchildren. You know what I mean? There's plenty of stuff to do. Do you believe him that this is it? He's going to be done? he's been saying it for a while now so yeah I'm gonna say yeah

well look I'm glad I'm glad tiny does because I don't believe well I'll give him this um there might be something in him he was looking for a creative outlet people didn't I got I never saw him do stand-up and I never I missed the whole stand-up thing I saw his name on some things but I never tuned into it not for any reason but clearly he was looking for a creative outlet so he did that thing yeah um as you said Lord Salis, he cut his hair. I just had him on Apple music during, he was at Versus and I was talking to him about cutting his hair because that's the brand, right? Like that

clean lineup. He's back to OG. You know, with the hat, with the hat tilted on the thing and the whole thing is the brand. So he might just need to get this one last thing out of the door, Rosebord. I think the law, they got 80, am I lying? Did they get, they got 80 million when they did

OMG girl lawsuit. I don't know. It was a lot of back and force. Oh, you might go down. But he, I'm not. They're good. They're good. They're good. And I'm going to tell you this. His son Damani is fire. Really? What? You haven't listened to Damani, bro? No. Bro. Really good. His son Damani as an artist and a rapper, musically, lyrically, fire.

And a great kid. I mean, I guess he's not a kid anymore. How's he putting out music? Indie, I think. I don't know what label is on. I haven't peeped them yet. You know who's going to be a star? His youngest daughter. Oh, she's the one singing. Yes. She's going to be on Broadway or something. T.I.'s coming by here, though. That little girl is amazing.

I just, listen, I'm fine if it's his last album. I'm fine if he says it's his last album, then decide. I don't care. Do whatever you want. But, like, look at the guy. He still looks like he's in the prime of his life. Like, he's not going to go home now and just be with his family like he's a, like, well, no.

Remember, I think they own like bankhead seafood. They own. I'm saying. They want a lot. He has mad businesses. He's definitely not just sitting at home. But my point is, I'm always down to play the game with people

because it's a fun idea. No, just say this. Just say this. He's telling us he's retiring so that we run and support this album with real, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Not intensity,

vigor. But like, you know, like we're focused on it. Passion. Sure. I'm down. T.I.'s retiring. This is it.

I'll support it. I could see. You know what? I can see him this is his final album and he'll jump on other people's records. Laura, Laura, he's, I don't know if Tip is 50. I don't think he is. I think he's probably just short of 50. Not making, I, he's going to create again.

He's an artist. Like this, this is, I just don't know why we, rappers always play this game of like I've marketing. Can we come up with a new marketing thing? No, it's a good one. Did this. This is Jay Colsey's retiring too. Oh, God.

The falloff isn't the, the falloff's the like, retirement album. This is it. He's just going to ride bikes and play basketball? Maybe. I guess. Okay. Anyway, let's go to the lowdown. Oh, we got that intro too. Hold on to your speakers. Oh, yeah. Time for the lowdown with Laura Stey. That intro is fire. I love it. And now, now, Laura, we have expectations when you go to the low down because this is supposed to be low, down, dirty, messy, ratchet. Well, it's definitely messy, and I think it's ratchet.

But here we go. So do you remember the guy who was fighting in court trying to claim that Jay-Z was his biological father? Yes. Yes. His name is Ramir Satterwood. So he's been doing this for years. And finally, a judge was like, bro, he ruled against his side. And then it's supposed to be done, right?

Well, he started posting messages on X that a lot of people found very interesting. In his post, he was thanking Nikki Minaj and Mr. President. He did not explain what type of help he was talking about, but he was reposting messages saying that Nikki Minaj supports him and that a lot of other people have his back, and then people are buzzing that they're probably trying to go back to this damn DNA case. Nikki Minaj, huh? Mr. President.

This is where we are, folks. this America I don't even know what I'm supposed to do with this information I'm supposed to like be mad at these people I don't know listen when you are as dominant and successful as Jay-Z in so many ways

people coming for you yeah but you don't think it's interesting after a judge just shut it down that all of a sudden he's getting help from Nicki Minaj no no that's what I'm saying she's the people coming I think the Nikki I'm not sure why Nikki Minaj has a whole thing with Jay Z and the Rock Nation. I don't know what

it is. People have speculated that it's about the title money she didn't get a song. Yes, that's what she was saying. But then I saw I interview with Steve Stout where he was telling, I forget who he was telling. He was telling somebody she didn't sign her paperwork. I saw that too. So I'm just confused by the story. So what does this mean exactly? We don't know. It was just on Twitter.

But it was just people found... Is Laura being messy? Because, you know, it was the... Not just me. I think the whole thing is messy. It's how. You don't think it's messy. I do. But when's it from? Yesterday.

That's when the letter's from? The letter. The tweets. He tweeted Nikki in the president. He tweeted saying thank you for having my back. Huh. Interesting. What are they saying in the chat there, Roseberg?

Thank you for the lowdown in the rundown today. What are they saying? Who is shouting in the super chat? Oh, super chat. Yeah, let's get focus. You know, sorry. People throwing money at us. I have a lot of super chat.

You know what I'm saying? JR5 mics said nah 45 hit differently I pulled a muscle reaching up for a cabinet yeah I'm a former athlete so it hurt my whole soul oh my god focus on former any of you former athletes if you haven't if you don't move around or do anything on a daily basis it's over and by the way it's over within weeks not months especially after like 35 38 years old oh Your body does not hold on to flexibility, none of that. Jay Dubbs says, good morning, love you guys, proud fought. I must let you know that according to my tracking number, as of 122 USPS, I'm still awaiting the item.

What? His t-shirt. It's coming. Merch manager. He's waiting on his goddamn t-shirts. I have some fucking patience. Yo, it's been two weeks, bro. But he said 122.

It's coming. It's coming. It's literally a one-man show right now. That's not. Nobody wants to hear that, Laura. They paid some. Listen, they didn't, it was a one-man show. I didn't say you were going to get in three to five days.

Did I? No. So you're going to wait. You want your merch. You wait. Shout out to Layla Milan. He just gave us a lot of money. Wait, talk about.

Why is Laura yelling at people, man? You're making it worse. No, I know. But it's still funny. It's not funny to you that Laura's yelling at people that spent their money. No, and saying, getting mad and saying, shut up and wait. These are people who just want to support our numbers. But Laura, aren't we got...

I'm just like, bro, you're getting your damn merch. You know, but Laura, aren't we going to... And I've said it every time you've asked me on the show. I said, it's coming. Be patient. Wait, but Laura, aren't we going to drop merch every month? Maybe if you act right. Maybe if you act right is insane.

Nah, it's crazy. You never seen anything like this. Hebron, you want this? Should we get this up there? No, they haven't. Oh, they haven't. I think they haven't. You guys have the new graphic for Ebro?

How long have we been sitting on this graphic? No, we just got it today, no? Just got it. Today? It's piping hot. Oh, wow. Who do we get it from? Do we know?

Oh, my God. All right, Baskim's got it. I just saw him loaded up. Let's see if it pops in here. Hey, yo. All right. Pops in here. Here it comes.

And three and a two. And there are. I don't know who that is, but what do you? That looks, bro. That looks like me. Is that what I look like? Lori, you don't think that looks like you, bro? I mean, it does a chase.

Yeah, good. But listen, that's cool. That's pretty good. Well, no. And if they just did it in like five minutes, like, you know, why not? Put it back up then. What happened? We got to...

No, bro. Who does this look like if not Ebro? It looks like Ebro, Jays. Look, it's not bad. No. It's like... That's funny, but like for... Yeah, like, it's got the sharpness of your eyebrows down.

I know, they nailed the eyebrow. The level of gray in your beard? Knocked it out. No, I'm not mad at this at all. The E.L. Army wants you. Join the family. Stay loyal? I like...

Stay loyal is a stretch. You know, it feels aggressive. It feels like a game. No, we appreciate it, though. E.L. Army wants you. That's very funny. And that one got sent just now, too? How's that one right there, Rosenberg?

Wow, that's a real photo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I like that one. You like that one? Yo, seeing Ebro going full Apollo Creed and Rocky Four is crazy. So now we've got this part, but what do they do to be a part of the EL Army? Has that been set up? Yo, King Lou!

What's going on with that? the EL Army. He just yelled Set it up. I don't know what either of you were talking about. What are you asking him to do? Well, he had a call with a company that actually would like help us like engage with people who are our most active people. You mean like create bots? I don't know if it's create bots but it's just like

rewards and different things for people who are like super active in our family. This is the thing? That's the thing. There's companies that do this. Matter of fact, I learned that this is how like a lot of artists like sell tickets to their like core base first. Got it. You know what I'm saying?

So they're using these companies to be like, yo, I'm in this town, you know, and it helps them with their, what is it, like social media, figure out where your people are listening. Because, you know, the next iteration of this is, you know, brands are going to want us to do activations. You guys know that's coming. Yeah, I hope so. So we got to do events, which means we got to get people in a room.

I'm telling you. We need to engage with our fans. I'm with you. That's all. Yeah, you know, I just never, I didn't realize it's an actual, like, I didn't know until we started this, how many, companies there are that do things. Like how many people there are making money in this world?

Yes. That means there are that many businesses that are making money off of all the people making money. That's right. Yep, yep, yep. Shasha. Shasha. Shasha. Shasha.

Shasha. Shasha. Shasha. Shasha. Shasha. Maybe it's Shasha. Y'all are doing great. Keep up these podcasts.

I enjoy them every morning. And P.S. I did not receive my t-shirt. Shasha Shut up How about you Shut up? Nah, wow Shush shut up is great

But I ain't sweating it I know y'all got me Didn't you? Yes, Sasha. I mean, Shasha Can't wait to wear it Now how did Rassan get his shirt so fast? Because it was shipped in waves

Right, but why wouldn't we like You got my shirt? You have my Shisha shirt? Did you buy one? No, he wants a free one. Nah, you got to pay. I just told Ricardo I wanted one. I'm happy to pay for it.

Yeah, no, you got to pay. You're just coming at the end. Okay, that's fine. It's the coolest cat says, well, I don't y'all just use printout for merch. They print and ship merch for you. I use it for my Etsy shop. Because we want to be able to, like, have a certain level of quality.

Yes, yeah. Quality is actually really good. Wait, too, getting it. Wait, Rassan, how's the quality? Oh, no, he's hype. No, no, no, that was what? Recruiting on Patreon, no. We're not recruiting on.

Oh, no, he doesn't like that one. No, we're not charging people to be in the E. No, anyone can join the EL Army. It's hashtag ELR me or my. No, I'm feeling good about this thing. I've been seeing a lot of people talking about their enjoyment of the show on a daily basis. That's good. Having a daily show is pretty unique for the internet world, I think.

Really? Yeah. I think so. I mean, you get things like The Daily, which is a news podcast or like BBC News or things like that. But a live 8 a.m. show. Every day. every day. And then if you miss it, you get to catch it later. And then you have a Patreon, which like, for example, tomorrow, we're dropping a new episode

of the Patreon. You know, that's just more content for that ad. Me and Roosevelt got an argument on the Patreon. It's not a real one. We did? Yeah, because I didn't, you know, you were like, the Patreon's got to be different. Then we got on the Patreon and did stuff that we would do on the ELR show. I mean, over time, you're very big on the things, all things all have to happen in a second. I'm big on. We got to be in a rhythm. I'm just big on if people pay for something.

We do good customer service, and we don't yell at people because they pay for something, or we let them down once they pay. Cut to Laura when she's being yelled at like that. Baskom? Roll my eye. You didn't see the. See? There you go.

Look, before we get about it today, we got to get to the gurus, the original guru. Sure. Let's do it. I don't have the harps, the strings. Yeah, you do. Get your harps together. What's the name of that file? Hang on. Chimes.

Chimes? All right, let me look for chimes. Send that to you a couple days ago. Yeah, but in the meantime. But it wasn't edited, remember? Oh, yeah, we had to clean it up, my bet. I did it. Oh, you did clean it up and said it.

Let me see if this works. Cool. Shouts to Danielle. No, again, it was too low. Oh, well, no, you know why? Because it's not edited. Wait, oh, here we go. Wait for it.

Three, two, one. And there we go. All right. Shout up to Danielle real quick. She said she sent her. us a DM to our page. Please check. And what were you DMing us about, Danielle?

I don't know. We get some crazy DMs. What are they saying in there, Laura Stiles? Just, you know. We have some amazing ones and a lot of people. I want crazy DMs. New segment on the show. No, no, we don't need that.

Nah, come on. We don't need that. Why? Yeah, because they're not that entertaining. I've seen some. Do we believe Laura Stiles? We want dicks. Whoa, whoa.

We're live. What are you doing? No, we don't. I meant what's in Laura's Instagram. Don't we want to see what's in her DMs? Because you know that's... Those days are done? No, no, no.

This is not Laura's DM. The show DM. The show. You don't think they send them to the show DM, just hoping she'll see it. Now they might. What the hell? I was just trying to...

Listen, I know there are enough people out there that don't like me. So I feel like, why not just give them that meme for them to have? We're just says it. All right, well, isolate. All right, all right. You ready? I'm trying to start the guru.

Oh, times. Wait, King Lou has something. I don't want to see dicks all day. King Lewis said he does not echo my sentiment. I got it. And he has the guy who sees the DMs. I got it. He has one interested in the shaw.

All right, I'm gonna hit these damn harp one more time. Chime. Ah, let's see that. The original gurus. Original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail. Stay focused, man.

Why can't you stay focused? Because my wife listened to the show too much. She just wrote me in all seriousness. She wrote, we want dicks as crazy, babe. Please don't say that again. No, she sounds like seriously annoyed that I said, please don't say that again. And she's being serious. You're embarrassing her?

She doesn't know that I've always been. She never listened to the show. No, she did. No, no, she did. She loved the show. Okay. Yeah. She jokes sometimes, she'll be like, it's so crazy that I have Rosenberg's baby.

I really listened to you. Like, I was a fan. I love this show. Is it weird for her? No, she won't regularly be like, isn't that crazy? I have a baby with Peter Rosenberg. I was like, yeah, you were like, we're excited. Now you're not even interested.

Like, your whole life has gone full. circle here we are. But you should know, babe, I say crazy things intentionally sometimes. All right. Here we go, guys. All right. Original gurus, the original gurus atch email.com. Dear gurus, first, I'm a huge and loyal fan of the show, and I really appreciate how you never left us.

Oh. My mornings are brighter because of you, so thank you. I'm writing because I truly need perspective, guidance, and clarity. I've dealt with my son's father on and off since 2010. The relationship was always unhealthy and full of disrespect. I was young and tolerated more than I should have. In 2020, I became pregnant with our son. He was in another relationship and not present during my pregnancy.

I think you know the button that you need to hear. I'm sorry. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. I accepted early on that I would raise my son alone, and I have. My son is now five years old, and the light of my life, I have taken care of him financially and physically since day one with no help from his father. His involvement has been inconsistent and entirely on his terms. I completely stopped dealing with him

before my son was born through time I made it clear that I didn't need or want him for anything personally and his behavior changed he began showing up unannounced questioning my movements and using my son as a way to control me

I also noticed serious red flags including emotional instability and substance issues which I do not want around my child a year ago the situation escalated when I asked him to leave my home because it was getting late he violently assaulted me in front of my son I was badly injured

transported to the hospital by ambulance and he was later arrested after fleeing the scene. I just want to be clear this may be a little bit over the guru's pay grade but we're going to do our best. I now have orders of protection for both me and my son. I am also in family court. That is a whole other nightmare.

I've incurred significant legal expenses simply trying to protect myself and my child. Despite the violence and the evidence, I feel like the system continues to give him access, leniency, and benefit of the doubt that I don't feel he has earned. recently his friend reached out to initially check on my son but began to express concern about a difficult legal consequences would be for my son's father

his family has also disappeared from my son's life there has been no concern for the child who witnessed the violence so here's where I need guidance how do you stay strong and protect your child when you've been made to feel like the villain although you're the victim how do you navigate a system that seems more focused on giving chances than protecting a child how do you stand firm when you're guilt and manipulation are used to make you feel responsible for someone else's consequences. I don't want revenge. I want safety. I want peace and I want protection for my son. I also want accountability. I'm raising a little boy to understand that love is not control, fear, or violence,

and I refuse to teach him that abuse is something women are expected to endure. Thank you for giving people like me a space to be heard. I would truly appreciate your perspective with gratitude and appreciation. Oh, man. This is a tough one. That really. I know. I'm upset. I mean, I think you need to lean on those words that you just wrote at the end, you need to lean on safety, because that's the number one thing, safety and a healthy environment for your child. I could easily see family members trying to manipulate you, making you feel bad, because I've been there before. Well, remember the person, to your point, Laura Stiles, the person who has physically abused

her was raised by those people. Yes. So not saying that that's always the case, but in this case, you'd have to assume that they equally or also have toxic behavior and bad judgment. Well, they're giving them a pass, obviously, because they're trying to convince her to make it all go away. So that means that you're okay with this. I think you're doing the right thing, and I think you need to stand strong. I think you wanting a healthy environment for your child is the best thing you could ask for. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Every single time he shows up when you have a order of protection, call the cops. Well, I'm assuming they're in family court because he wants to see his kid. Yes? She said family court, right? Yeah, she did say we're in family court. He wants to, he's trying to see his kid. So I think the way it works is because you and this person had an issue that was physical. And I come from an environment where my dad used to beat my mom.

And I saw it. and my mom took us, left my dad, and then we were missing kids for a while, and my mom actually got arrested for taking me and my brother away from the environment, right? And so those are two separate things. A father wanting to see a child and then two adults having a problem,

because if there's not evidence that that father has abused that child, why wouldn't he be able to see his child? So I think that's what she's He can't control himself though No I know what you're saying And I'm not saying you're incorrect But I think the courts see it as Just because you and this person have an issue

Doesn't mean this person doesn't get to see his child And if the court says hey he gets an opportunity To see his child and until he does something It's just kind of like when people are saying Hey I have a stalker or somebody's threatening me And the police are like Well nothing's actually happened So we can't do anything

What does she do though is the question? I think she has to She has to, A, be confident that the world that she's exposing to her son, same way my mom was, well, I don't know in the moment if she was confident, but she knew she had to expose me to a world that was different than my father's world. So that you're doing that. So trust that your son is going to learn positive behavior from you directing him and having him in an environment where later on in life he doesn't have these traits. But also you should trust and know that, like, for me, the things I learn not to be from my dad is also powerful. It is. Right?

So when you think about your parents, and this is for all of us, there are traits and things that you work on and things you work on not being because you saw how terrible your parents were. That's also them teaching you a lesson whether we like how it happened or not. Sometimes it's the best lesson. But it's such a crapshoot because some people. end up being influenced by it. And some people are like you and literally won't even have like an argument in their house that's above a whisper

because they're so affected by it. So, you know, I just want to say I don't have very much to offer here. Except I am so sorry and I feel you and I validate your feelings that it sucks that you are doing the right thing and you are being the one. You are the victim and you are being made

to feel like the perpetrator. I hope you have a group of friends and loved ones who are like family who can support you and rally around you. I hope in that group, and pardon me, you guys may think I'm being like immature here. I hope within that group of friends, maybe you have some loved ones who are men

who can also be around and you can feel some level of protection. I don't know, because I'm not saying like, I want them to beat them up, but like you do want to have some men around in your life. If in a pinch, you're like, hey, this guy is here. I don't know what to do. Like, I hope that you can have that. And that's why I'm saying, like,

I'm not saying go run out and find a man. But I hope that there are other people in your circle that can make you feel safe. Because that's just a terrifying feeling. Yeah. If you're, I mean, listen, we know the facts. The people who harm women are men. Well, often love one that they know. And here's the other part.

And this is important for your son and your family members. And that's for the emailer and anybody listening right now. In the beginning of this email, can you read like the first two sentences again, please? Do you have it? Yeah. Because I believe she opted into this with this person. my son's father since 2010 relationship was always unhealthy and full of disrespect yeah so then you decided i was young and tolerated more than i should have right so i think that's also important here

because this journey you're going on with your son and this journey that you're going on for yourself it's important to learn from it because you signed up for this you have to pay attention to those red flags man if your gut is telling you something listen but if you fear for this say of your son in court you can get supervised visits you can figure out ways to like make it work where he can see his son but you're not fearing for his safety if that's a concern well the courts are going to dictate it yeah I guess that's really all we have right yeah yeah we wish you the best with that and we're uh we're here for you we appreciate you so sorry you're going through this um what my mom used to do is and this started when I was like five six years old because my dad was

also violent. Unfortunately, I had to be the person that was dealing with my dad. My mom was not going to talk to him. And so even with like drop-offs, they would meet at a location and then I would get out of one car and get into the other car. And there was no communication at all. Did that ever change? When they got older, did they communicate?

No. They never did again. No, my mom never. Never. I have a picture I was actually looking at. the other day at my graduation. My dad came to my high school graduating. And they might have said hello.

That's the only time you remember, wow. Did you take a picture together? Yeah, we were all together. In the picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Wow. Let me see if I can find out.

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