The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 29.) Trump Voter Regret + Epstein File Release (2/4/26)

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:57 from the beginning that A real. It's a real scratch. It's a vibe. Okay. Do we know if, so full disclosure, welcome to show,
Starting point is 00:01:08 happy Wednesday everyone. We talked about the Grammys the other day and the great job that Lauren Clef did. Yeah. Obviously, you're very close with Jerry Wonder. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Did Jerry have anything to do with anything they did or no? I don't know. I did not ask. I want to know. Clef would be a fun guest for us to get too. And what about Lauren? Lauren, we could probably get.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Like, Lauren is someone who doesn't do much, but you've always had a relationship with you. Yeah, we're cool. So, yeah, I mean, I would love to have her on the show. Because she wants to talk. I'm just curious about, I want to know. You know what, we should have Quest Love too. Add that to the...
Starting point is 00:01:42 I add all these names to the list, folks. Lauren is amazing. We just have to do the show at midnight. I just don't... When the cameras come on and you're asking her questions, it changes. thing. I feel like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's different now.
Starting point is 00:01:56 She seems so friendly. Nah, she's the greatest. But now the cameras are on and stuff to talk about. And so then she's kind of, I don't think she's not. What is, what is that? What if we get, okay, so what if we tell her exactly what I want to talk about? Some people don't like being asked questions, guys. I'm just to be honest.
Starting point is 00:02:14 What about just chat? Some people don't trust it. They don't trust it. The cameras are on. I like to shine. You're asking me questions. But I just thought because you guys are cool Then maybe she'd be a more cool
Starting point is 00:02:24 No, no She may not want me asking her questions Well just think about it How much is she ever done? She did the thing when Apple gave her The number one album of all time They did a little thing Yeah, we did a little thing
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah He said a little thing Yeah But she's I wonder whether some of the thing is with Lauren Is that her The way we were exposed to her Was so gigantic
Starting point is 00:02:46 It was always so sick Like the miseducation was so big that you kind of end up in this perfect space and you like don't want to mess it up. Well, I also just think, look, man, I can, I don't do a lot of people. I do a lot of interviews, but I don't sit and have people ask me questions a lot. Think about even you guys. How often do you guys sit down and somebody interviews you?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Not that often. And I got to say, I got to say, I don't think I like it. Really? I don't love it. I don't love it either. I, in some ways, I'm more comfortable with it because I feel like when you get asked questions, I don't know. I feel, but I'm comfortable talking.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So asking me questions is not hard. Yeah, I don't love it. So when people are like, like we were talking about Jay Cole yesterday, I understand why you don't want to do interviews. Bro, I said everything in my songs. What else you want for me? Like, for instance, one of the reasons I never started a podcast and went on this podcast. I'm on air all day, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I talk all morning about how I feel. Then I go on Apple and I play music. love what more do you want for me to say well respectfully as you would say to me right now this isn't about you why not Lauren Hill though she doesn't have a podcast no I'm just saying I can relate right but you say a lot otherwise like it is interesting these people who don't ever say anything and you think like they might want people to know more about them for their legacy and maybe she feels like people know too much about her personal life about her kids I don't we don't we don't know anything yeah we know a lot no we don't we absolutely know who she had know about her family
Starting point is 00:04:18 that she has kids we know We know about kids, which I'm sure she doesn't want to talk about. We know about the controversy between the Fugis. We know about that. I don't know sure she doesn't want to talk about what's going on with prize. She doesn't want to talk about John Fortage's passing. Or maybe. But why not?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Maybe. Maybe some beautiful moments, some hot, you know what I mean? Maybe she would. Can't she trust that that's what it's going to be about? I don't know. But that's all I'm saying. And I don't know this to be true. She might watch this and be like, E, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Shut the F up. You don't know what you're talking about. I would love to come on the show. I'm going to tell you one thing. I hope that Ebro, when people talk ish about me, if it ever comes up to people, to him, I hope Ebro defends me as well as he can defend other people's decisions to not do things with us. I swear to you. Do you hear mostly good stuff about yourself?
Starting point is 00:05:02 And that's because I defend you. No, I don't. So you're not doing a good enough job. By the way, when I just rub my head, it reminded me that video of LeBron the other day. Y'all saw that? No. You all didn't see the LeBron video? No, what happened?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yo, I'm sorry, Baskam. If you find it and you can get it in, please. Yo, LeBron after the Knicks game was sitting there with his brush during, having a conversation brushing his joint like he had so much hair and I saw people posting it going this is the level of delusion I hope to achieve one day. There was nothing there
Starting point is 00:05:29 he's brushing his head bro. No listen no LeBron I love you no congratulations you played yourself it's gone. Ebrook bring a brush you might as well bring a brush to the show imagine if he's in their brush I'm going stop stop right now no it's gone I have one hold on this my
Starting point is 00:05:45 beard brush your man was like this it's gone It's over And by the way, I want to say to LeBron I love where you went this season with your haircut What's different this year? He cut it mostly, it's mostly gone He's not like trying to hang on to this like
Starting point is 00:06:02 Hodgepodge, one, two, skip a few hair About there's one to skip a few again What, yeah, what were we doing for a long time? What was the artist you told him who has luxurious hair And he got the amazing like hair? Oh no, John Cena. John Cena. Well, but here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Here's the problem, folks. Here we go. Hair transplant talk, and I think Rosenberg's going to go get it. No, I'm not. Dipperstein, my manager, shut me down. When I was like, yo, I had a good talk with John Cena. Maybe I should go to this guy he went to in Georgia or wherever it is, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Right, right, right, right. And Dip was like, you absolutely cannot do that. I was like, why not? You don't get to tell me I don't get to have hair. He was like, this is your look. It is over. There is no changing this anymore. You're a bald man.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You are a bald man. But John Cena explained to me. The problem is Where's the country people all go to get their hair? Rassan says turkey Turkey, right? Everyone's like, oh, I got to go to Turkey Once you hear that become the thing that everyone says
Starting point is 00:07:03 You can be sure there's a reason The reason is they're doing it for cheap So everyone's like go to Turkey because when you go to Turkey Get it done for like 10, 15 grand or whatever it is If you do it in the U.S. With like the best possible people You might be looking at like 30. Okay. My question is, if LeBron
Starting point is 00:07:22 really had cared, like, why didn't he ever because they can do it? But isn't there a thing where it doesn't take for some people? If you go to a bat, so what Sina explained to me was, it's the top, they take the follicles out. From the back. From the back. You need to have enough. This segment needs to be sponsored. Somebody clipped this up and sent it around. We need that bag. If you don't have enough in the back, you can't do it. But I'm sure, LeBron does, that he said the problem is when you go to the cheap places.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And why would LeBron go to a cheap? He wouldn't. That's right. But maybe back then he did. He just heard from someone this is where you go. He did this a while ago, right? A while back. It's the period between when they put the follicles back in your head, they can die if it's
Starting point is 00:08:05 not done the exact right way. So they end up putting it all in. But guess what? A bunch of it just died in the last half hour before they got it in your head. Damn it. And now you just put dead follicles in. Oh, man. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:08:17 You plagued yourself. And think about that, but John Cetus came out luxury. You want to see luxurious hair. Do you have the video of Celo Green at the Grammys the other day, right, did you? Cilow Green's son. You want to see luxurious hair? Really?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Oh, yeah. Run the tape back. I think I met Celo Green's son before. Did you? I think so. If he had the look that he had the other day, I guarantee you'd remember the other day. I'll show you in a second. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, this is my young son. Hello. She said, hello. Lake, like Lake Erie? That is amazing. Okay, so where is the thought of saying we're going to name him Lake Erie? Honestly, I don't know. I guess it opens up just an air of mystery.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It makes it seem like a little bit bigger than, you know, just a human being. If you're listening, you're not watching. I love it. My man looks like insane clown posse meets Marilyn Manson. What's underneath is unknown? Meets kiss. Yes, big kiss. What was I got Gene Simmons?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Y'all have the time you live tonight. You got to turn a couple corners at the end of the night? I will. I will. All right, you could kill it. But here's the thing, though, that runs in the family. Whatever that is, it's in the family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Y'all forget, Sealo Green, when he started Narls-Barkley, or maybe it was even before Narls-Bark. I don't remember. But definitely during Narls Barclay, he was wearing full Star Trek outfits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy stuff. He did fake hair stuff, too. I don't know. No, he's bald. No, I don't remember if you ever rocked crazy wigs, too.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I don't remember in that era. He may have. The Seelow Green musical story. I mean, there's obviously some news headlines that weren't so great. But the Seelow Green musical story, what was the, remember the boom? He's on a boomerang soundtrack. What was the name of that group he was in? Oh, there's not a, I think there's a, oh, that's pre-goody mob.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Pre-Guddy mob, like right before Goody Mob, he was in a group that's on a boomerang soundtrack, I think. Then there was Goody Mob, and then there was solo. Okay. He's on the Carlos Santana album. Remember that dope Carlos Santana album, Wyclef did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that won all the Grammys? Yeah, then he's on the Norris Bar, like, Seel Green.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Not to mention just outcast features, too. No, yeah, then there's. All right, so. But he's always been, like, super expressive and theater. He's an artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, the LaFace cartel. Yeah, maybe that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Because he was on, LaFace was where he was at. Yeah. So that's the only group I see. Reversal of a dog by the LaFace Cartel. Oh, man, I die without you, P.M. Dawn. It gets no better, buddy. I got to tell you right now, for my money, folks, in that movie, when they have, if you remember. Wait, you're on Boomerang Soundtrack now. Yeah, we're talking about. You brought it up. It's your fault.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Well, I didn't know how you got to P.M. Dawn. I forgot that was on there. Okay, boom. And remember, at this time for the audience, Rosenberg was like, how would you say your infatuation for Hallie Berry was? Oh, man. It's out of control. Out of all I think. No, not posters. Just there were no posters. The posters weren't staying on the wall because it was sticky stuff on him so you had to change first of all this is pre-posts don't you ill bugger woman we'll get back to you and your posters on the wall
Starting point is 00:11:22 this is pre-poster's existing this is when I just had the her as the 50 most beautiful people people thing just it wrapped up in my pocket like a psycho that was stuck together oh man so we got to get her on the show one day because this is a different level yo these guests line up for
Starting point is 00:11:38 the ELR show it's great no the made up guess like anyways the scene the scene though when they because they have the, you know, David Allen Greer and Eddie get into the thing over Hallie, because David liked her and Eddie ends up hooking up with her and blah, blah, blah. And then Martin's like, nah, no, man, we need to have
Starting point is 00:11:54 one big muffin hug, man. And he brings them all together and they hug on the roof. And the second they hug and they turn around to go inside, the like they cut to like the buildings in the background and the lights go on and it's the is it my turn? Oh,
Starting point is 00:12:11 man. That's a moment in life. You guys, that doesn't hit you guys? It was beautiful, but I don't know what you know. Oh, that movie was so good. Yo, Rosenberg's always wanted to be in love. Isn't it beautiful? Like, when you really think about it. That's not even a love scene, though.
Starting point is 00:12:23 That's like a brotherhood scene, but that song was always. That song of all the lovey songs, that joint is. Shout to PM Dawn, rest in peace, man. Well, not both of them. No, I'm sorry. What's my man's name? See, we're terrible. Hit us with the button.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Damn, why'd you do that? You could have just let it be. Sorry, because I was going to shout out Jersey City because he's from Jersey City. PM Dawn got a really bad rap because KRS 1 went and threw them off the stage. And for no reason. Yeah, there was no reason to do it that we know of Prince B. Prince B.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, rest in peace. Jersey City, New Jersey. Speaking of Jersey City, New Jersey, ICE is out there heavy. Yeah. Ice is moving around Jersey City, so pay attention. Ice was also in the Lower East Side. Lower East Side targeting cooks. Say word.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Mm-hmm. And yo, for you people out there, you, you morons who can fix your lips to be like, well, Obama deported people, Biden deported. Yes. And we've had ice since 2001. But they were not just running in restaurants, busing in people's houses, breaking windows on people's cars who were American citizens. Like, it just wasn't this. And so it's not the what, it's the how, man. Like, I can't even believe we have to have these convo.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Well, it's in the who? Natalie sent me a video this morning at like 6 a.m. That's my wife. Rosenberg's Natalie. Yes. Up there seeing political videos to ruin your whole day. First thing at 6 a.m. She sent me two videos.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Okay. And I watched the second when she sent me. And I was all choked up because it's a scene in Minnesota where it's like somebody's yelling. They're here. Go inside. I see that. Yeah, yeah. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And it's like, what? On the street, right? In the suburban neighborhood. Yeah. And people are clear. It's weird. Like, please stay inside. So I know we're all triggered by the videos.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And I know we're all triggered by the reality, the Don Lemon of it all, the that videos like that of it all. Are we clear that this is happening because, A, they want to destabilize Minnesota as a state in Minneapolis and get those voter rolls. Like everybody never forget that. They said it. The woman, the attorney general said, we will get ice out of there. if you give us your voter rules.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Don't forget also, they just went and took all the voter registration and ballots from Georgia, Fulton County. One of the blackest counties in the United States of America. Just went and took that. Why would they want those? They're also keeping from us that Tulsi Gabbard has something in her file
Starting point is 00:15:06 that they say will jeopardize national security so they're not allowing it to the public. Tulsa Gabbard, who was on the scene in Fulton County, Georgia when they took the ballots. And she, and why is she even, she shouldn't even be a part of this? She shouldn't have even been there. That's not even the thing she's supposed to be a part of. But the reason, and so I want to say to everyone else are watching right now,
Starting point is 00:15:29 I don't think we have national security. I want you guys to stop. Our government in the United States works for Israel, or Trump works for Russia, Tulsi Gabbard works for Russia, Like, what are y'all talking about with this national security? What are you hiding? When you look into the Epstein files, what national security? Like, what are you securing from what?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Who knows? Y'all been, Epstein was in here getting you psychos and weirdos trapped up with children. It's in the documents. So you were gallant. And by the way, Bill and Hillary are out here about to go testify. Yeah. They're not afraid to stand in front of the public and go testify.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Well, they were going to, weren't they going to? going to try to come for them if they didn't? So they just volunteered and said, we're going to come talking to. Yes. Yes. Yeah, no, at first, no, at first, they were just trying to drag them. Bill and Hillary said, we want to testify. Yeah, that's what's happening. Then they said,
Starting point is 00:16:24 oh, no, we don't want you to testify. They said, no, if you want us, or excuse me, then they wanted them to come testify, but not in public. Bill and Hillary was like, no, we wanted to be seen what we testify. We don't want to do this behind closed doors. Right. We wanted to, we
Starting point is 00:16:42 We want people to see our testimony. Yeah, yeah, the words need to be seen. Right, we don't want this hidden. And they said that we hope that they'll do it at a mutually agreed upon date and time. And then they said they hope that them doing it will set the precedent that other people have to do the same thing, which of course it won't work, but it's a nice thought.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Well, do we have Wally Rashid from Instagram? I want you guys to look at this. So while we're hooting and hollering about ice, which we should be. Yeah. And we have to be able to do multiple things at the same time, though. Can I see this clip, please? The ex-US ambassador to Mexico impregnated an 11-year-old girl.
Starting point is 00:17:16 This is Earl Anthony Wayne, the former U.S. Ambassador to Mexico from 2011 to 2015. Wait, pause that for me. Ex-US ambassador to Mexico, Mr. Earl Anthony Wayne, about his involvement. Trigger warning. We probably should have said that. Yeah. I had a time. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Sorry. Run it again because this is, and if you got kids watching, buckle up. With an underage girl when he attended and was arrested by federal police. We believe that Blank and Epstein were involved organizing this party and it was held in Mexico. at a U.S. consulate controlled housing facility. He was sentenced in Mexico in 2017 to a life sentencing for impregnating an 11-year-old girl. Her son's DNA matches Wayne's 100%. But after a huge payoff, the U.S. State Department made a deal with the corrupt judge
Starting point is 00:17:58 to allow an ex-U.S. Marine to stand in his place and serve his sentencing in Mexico. Mr. Anthony has an outstanding arrest warrant here in Mexico for avoiding sentencing. Earl Anthony Wayne is now a professor at American University. It's actually teaching classes in the spring of this year on U.S. foreign policy diplomatic practice. After this started circulating online, Earl Anthony Wayne deleted his ex-account. Reporting on more Epstein-related documents, so those other videos are on my YouTube channel. The Epstein story, yes, it's about Donald Trump. He is currently the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Of course. Okay. But it is also about all of these powerful people around the world, right? What was the former prime minister of Israel before? Netanyahu, Barak. Ah, Houd Barack? Yep. He's lots of emails with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Lots of them. Prince Andrew. Yeah. Right? Yesterday, day before yesterday, I talked to you guys about Bari Weiss, the head of CBS's wife who was communicating with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Elon Musk. Elon Musk. The owner of the Giants, Tish. Didn't know that one. Oh, yeah, he's in there. Those emails are weird. The guy who found it started Victoria's Secret who gave him. Well, that guy's way in there.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, yeah. Right. Like, it's a lot of people in there. But I point to this because we are being inundated with so much stuff. It's hard to pay attention to what really matters. So most of us will pay attention to the fact that ICE is in Jersey City. That's in my backyard. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So I can't. But why are they in Jersey City? Why are they in Minneapolis? Why is this happening anyway in the way that it's happening? A lot of this noise is because they don't want us focused on the Epstein files. You said Ballard. What was Ballard's tweet? Someone said, it wasn't him, but he retweeted.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Someone said, oh, you know what's the craziest thing about Trump shutting down the Kennedy Center? All the raping kids in the Epstein files? Yeah. Yeah, like. Because all these other. stories that are meant to make us talk about other stuff, not that the most horrific things imaginable with the
Starting point is 00:20:14 most powerful people in our country are in these files. And by the way, I'm going to say it again, not just our country. Right, right, all over the world. All kinds of people. Did I tell you guys how I saw on Instagram how TikTok is now censoring the word Epstein. See? When mentioned
Starting point is 00:20:30 in DMs, but only to U.S. users. Currently, everyone else can see them. The UK, other parts of the world. No, because remember, Laura, TikTok is now the whole U.S. functionality and operating system of TikTok is all based. There's a U.S. version of TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Which is controlled by Larry Ellison, which his son and family controls Paramount, which is CBS. Yeah. That's the whole thing. That was the whole deal. Was that the guy who runs CBS, all these people are now running all of it. So you have Barry Weiss over CBS News.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yep. Ellison over all of it. Paramount, CBS, TikTok. So when you are tick, I think it's important. And we got to practice this. Just like you just went and mentioned TikTok, it's this way in the U.S. but not all over the world. You have to remind yourself, that just changed. It's important to remind people that TikTok is now what you're seeing is controlled in the United States.
Starting point is 00:21:28 The algorithm, the data, the access to the data, all that. We were told that we should be concerned that China had access to our data. Oh, yeah. That was so close. How dangerous that was. And I want to reiterate there, on all the platforms, the world has access to your data. You know why? Because they sell your data to advertisers.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Right. That's the value. Advertisers from all over the world could buy your data. So anyone could buy your data. Right. China can still buy our data. So what are we talking about? You know what we're talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Congratulations. You plagued yourself. But I do think it's all very confusing. And that's why I just get frustrated because we talk very loosely about the Epstein files. And I think everyone's obsessed with it being about Trump. And whenever I speak about it. Well, he is the president of the United States and people voted for him. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But I think people keep waiting it for the smoking gun on Trump to be in the Epstein files. And I don't know that I think we may be being misdirected, that there may be something else that's more sinister and more important even than Trump's role in the Epstein files. It's just people are so desperate. We're also desperate to find the thing to take down Trump that we're hoping that's the thing that's in there. I don't know that I think he's the level of primary player that everybody hopes he is. Well, I think people don't want him in control of what he's in control of. So they're focused on that because it was an election. But the thing is, my point is, nothing's the way out.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He literally held an insurrection. He's openly now trying to go like into Georgia and force people to make up votes. He's going to Minnesota sending ice and saying. saying give us your voter rolls. He's doing so many more obvious things that should disqualify him from being president, but we're obsessed with we're going to find it in there. I don't know that we are. I think that's why he's sort of confident that it's not going to be enough.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And he knows his people, unless there's video or photo evidence. Here say. Well, there's photos. Of what, though? Of him with Epstein or his drawings and his birthday cards or him saying, hey, bring, what is he saying his little birthday card? Our little secret. Another wonderful secret or here's to another wonderful secret, whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But again, to your point, we need to be concrete. They won't do it. But also. No one turns on. But also, this stuff has been there. Right. Epstein was convicted before Trump was in office. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:55 So other people are knowledgeable about this that are not Republicans. Right. Right. So this is bigger than like, to your point, it's bigger than just Trump. But I think people are focused on Trump because he's the president. And he's the entity that currently has to say so to either stop this from being, you know, tried and push forward or get him being removed so that it can be. You see what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Like he is kind of the, I guess, lynchpin in the, I guess, lynchpin in the, the whole chain. Right. So you would have to remove him and then prosecute, which I still don't believe is going to happen because why didn't they do that before? Yeah, and now they don't have the numbers to do it. So maybe after the midterms, that's why they're so scared of the midterms in theory. They're shook.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's because maybe if they get control, they could do more. It's all this. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. We should all be embarrassed. We should all be very embarrassed. and mostly you if you voted for Trump. Yeah, more so than us.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Less than me. Way less than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Way less. There's some people who regret it and there's so much, there's so many who still like are just supporting and just, they're running out of words. I'm not here. I'm, I'm, I'm be honest.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Call me a bad guy. It's tough for me to sit and listen to people talk about regretting it. Me too. I can't do it. Me too. I look, you're an idiot. I can't do it because you knew all of this. If I knew it, you knew it.
Starting point is 00:25:37 People just didn't believe it would happen. Who are you texting? My wife, I'm sorry. Yo. No, it's not about that. Sorry. Natalie, stop texting during the show, man. We're launching a new show.
Starting point is 00:25:47 For God's sake. I know. We're trying to keep the mortgage paid around. Yeah, I can't be distracted during the show. I can't be distracted. I'm sorry. I'm easily distracted, as you know. Yeah, and whose idea wasn't for you to look at the chat?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Whose idea was that? I didn't do bad looking at the chat. He did okay. He was good. I'm more capable of doing that than you guys. guys are. Then me? I think so. Really? Yeah, you're steering the ship. I don't think, I think if you could do that, we're losing you all together. Well, look, the ELR show, if you are in the chat right now, shout to you. Shout to everybody in the super chat, giving love. Shout to everybody who's subscribed.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Listen, we have, what, almost 50,000 subscribers? Yeah, about 2000, sure. Yeah, and a nice number on Patreon, too. We got about 2,500 to 3,000 people who show up live every day. Yeah. We'll have to take out the time. I ran into a lot of people. East's football games and just out and about it's like, yo, we really miss you in the morning. And I'm like, yo, check out the ELR show on YouTube. Every day, 8 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And they're like, really? I'm like, yeah, we're live every day 8 o'clock. And they didn't really... It's going to take time. They didn't... A, didn't know. And B didn't really process. Don't show. They don't know. Don't show. And don't care about what's going on in the hood.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But subscribe and also like. Like, all that stuff. Very important. Share. But that like button matters. I think it's going to take time for people to not only know about it, but then get used to the idea of, I open YouTube in my car when I'm driving? I know.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's like, yeah. Just let it rock it. At the YouTube app. Now you can listen on the podcast later. It may be easier for you. What times our podcasts usually go up, Griff? About 11 o'clock? All right.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I feel like Griff's line. Well, you could always be listening to the day before, though, in the morning. So like if you, let's say you drive on Tuesday, you listen to Monday show at, you know, 730 when you get in the car or whatever. if listening on YouTube isn't your thing, your cup of tea. Yeah, we have options for you. Now, we have a Black History Month. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:43 That's happening. Happy Black History Month to everyone. Yesterday, I failed in my attempt to include Shoney Culture's Black Fact on the program. I was vetoed. I was told it was uncouth. Yeah, just we didn't need it. Shady for me to be watching to see if Shoney Culture would. deliver more than four black facts in February?
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. You think that? I still want to do it. I mean, listen, it's interesting, but I still. Yo, can you imagine if Shoney Culture delivered a video black fact every day in February? We couldn't get an audio. I wanted him to do it. A video?
Starting point is 00:28:22 I told him to do it. It's not happening. And he was like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it. And then I was like, well, listen, these, we've got to go on these cruises, folks. Yeah. These cruisers ain't cruising themselves. What was his black fact about? The one that they posted was about how Hot 97 and WBLS were the first outlets in New York to play international music.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Huh? That's what it was, right? Yeah. Yeah. Reggae, Calypso, dance hall. Then he's like hip-hop, R&B. WBS. They didn't mention Kiss FM.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But even so, I just don't know if it's a true black fact. Is it? And why? And international music? It's Black History Month in North America. It's for black American. But it's a black fact still. It's still a black fact.
Starting point is 00:29:09 If it's a fact. For sure. I don't know if that's true. My guess is though, respectfully to Hot and BLS, there are a lot of radio stations in New York. Public stations, you know, airwaves that the people control, where I think international music's been getting played for longer than... BLS, maybe.
Starting point is 00:29:28 BLS wasn't really on, um, I mean, some Drege and dance on. Well, no, they played Mama Zuma, Mama Zaza, Mama, No, that's Nigerian. That's African. That original record. They were playing that original record? So Marcosa? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. That was, you sure? Positive. You remember that? Frankie Crocker was playing that. You know, it's like a big record. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Well, we got a black bag. Oh, no, we do? We have a fact that's black. Yes. No, we have a black fact. Can we call it a black fact? You can't own black facts? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I'm not. No. Nobody can just own that. No. No. They own the guru. They're on the guru even. Out of here.
Starting point is 00:30:03 If we're keeping it in a bean, we just changed it around. Okay. I don't know how these rules work, guys. Do whatever you want. Who's this with our black fact today, Laura Stowe? You should follow him. He goes by Deaf, not Aunt, and he has great content. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:30:17 He's one of my favorite creators. Come on, Ed. Did you know this? Keenan Ivory Wains is the reason why the NFL put so much money in time into their Super Bowl halftime. In the late 80s and early 90s, he had a show called In Living Color. It featured a diverse cast and even put on some of the biggest names that we know today, like Jennifer Lopez, Jamie Fox, and even Jim Carrey. Prior to 1993, the Super Bowl halftime show wasn't what we know it to be today.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It wasn't full of star-studied performances and celebrity pageantry. It usually was just ads, a break, or coming attractions for a specific event. And in 1992, it was no different. They showed an ice skating competition during the Super Bowl halftime show. Knowing this information, Keenan and I Reweens and the executives at Fox came up with the idea to air a live broadcast of In Living Color, to try to take away some of the viewers. from the Super Bowl. And it didn't just work.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It worked really well. Out of the Super Bowl, 79.5 million person viewership, in Living Color, took 11% of that. And a lot of those people didn't tune back into the Super Bowl. The NFL got wind of this.
Starting point is 00:31:19 They weren't too happy. And the next year, they spent $1 million and booked Michael Jackson. And that's a fact. And I say it based on... Very, that's a very... That was very... Very well done.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Very cool. That's definitely not on Instagram. Yeah. I mean, I brought that black. fact last year, but this is a really good fact. I mean, he broke it down. It's not about you. It's like history months. No, no, it was done beautifully.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I felt like you're trying to hate on death, not. No, no, I just want to have his moment. No, no, he really, honestly, obviously. And yours didn't have all that going on. You didn't have. All I did was say, hey, I'm listening to a Michael Jackson podcast. Did you know in live in color? That's all I said. That was really well put together. That was dope. Thanks to Def not aunt. That was great.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Def not at, man. And, um, listen. That fact was black. It was a black fact. All right. based off facts. Yo, Laura, you ready for the rundown? Yeah, let's do it. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Let's do it. Laura got the rundown, turn that up. Screen's on glow when she pulled up. Headlines heavy, but we still cut up. Life still flashing. We don't slow up. All right. Well, Ms. Kiki Palmer was trending because she was a guest on the Today Show.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And she shared a really interesting tidbit about, you know, her love life. Okay. All right, check this out. I can be to guess how I'm saying we can be on the same you know land but I'm over there and he's over there at best separate rooms okay so what about you know you go the bathroom you have the two toothbrushes uh-uh no so he can mess my bathroom is that your hot take so if i just feel like you know whoopi Goldberg said the best one she was like I don't want a betty in my house yeah wait wait wait time out you're for real right I'm too sure even Mary even
Starting point is 00:32:57 you know he's going to live around the corner to the corner would be great what about When you let him live in the guest house? So do you want kids? I could be open, but one thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together. You're so quick. Should I take it personally? But think about how fun it would be to be like I'm going over to my man's house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Over there. It keeps things. It keeps things right. So it's fun and exciting. I want to go sleep on his couch. And he better clean. better clean when you're coming over. I mean, listen, who are we to judge?
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'm not, I love this. I'm totally not mad at this point. You know who has a successful relationship and partakes in this? Cheryl Lee Ralph. Shirley Ralph? Yeah. Sherrylily Ralph.
Starting point is 00:33:47 She's been married for over 25 years. It was news to me that there are a lot of people doing this and have been together for 30, 20 plus. I'm listening, it's Rich Talk. Let's be clear, it's rich talk. Because you've got to have two households. So, that's that, that, that, That part's real.
Starting point is 00:34:00 That's true. But if you can afford to do it, why would you not? Because you have the option to be together as much as you want. But to be able to be like, I'm good. I'm going to go chill. Wow. Pretty tight. Now, I think what I would do, I don't know if I would do that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And I'm fortunate to be in a situation where I actually still like cuddling. I like sharing space, whatever. But hypothetically, if I was Kiki Palmer, I would be more of a, let's get condos in the same building. Ooh, nice. Perfect. Easier. Yeah, I get that. know I'm saying? Yeah, upstairs downstairs.
Starting point is 00:34:33 However, yeah, I mean, same hallway, whatever. Fire. But the point to me is just about having your own space to go to when you want to. Now, Kiki Palmer's got enough money where it's kind of like, do you need to be down the street around the corner? Can we just have two houses on the same
Starting point is 00:34:49 property? I mean, I could argue also, your own room is probably... So I know, I'm familiar, there's multiple people I know that have that scenario and they've been married for like 20 plus years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have their own... They sleep in different rooms. Sometimes they sleep together I don't know
Starting point is 00:35:04 I definitely know they have their own spaces And usually that starts Because somebody snores Boom Or But often that's the beginning Of something bad
Starting point is 00:35:12 But it doesn't have to be I mean I know somebody Who's been married for like 15 years And they sometimes sleep together Or they just Have sex And then they separate Because of the snoring
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'll keep it a buck though Back though Okay People don't love Even with their close friends Talking about All of their details So they will give you some details like, yeah, we have separate rooms and it's great.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Right, right, right. And it's not great. No, listen. In my friend's scenario, to your point, she would like it to change. Right. She's been trying to work with him. And he's just kind of like, you know, doesn't want to go to the doctor, so it's been like that. But to Laura, what you're saying right now is, and we'll get to the gurus in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Okay. What you're saying right now is, I want to stay with you. I love you. But you're not making enough changes to your sense. so that my day to day isn't affected by you being in shambles? A slovenly pig. Yeah. Or whatever you got going on.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You know what I'm saying? Because you're not willing to make improvements, but I still want to be with you. Right. Love you. So that's a solution, actually, in many ways. For people who do love each other and maybe have everything else is going great. But you have, I need my sleep.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And you or you are a slob and I've asked you 9,000 times to clean up after yourself in the bathroom and I can't take it anymore. No matter how you cut it, I don't think the take from Kiki's crazy. She's rich. She has a lot of stuff going on. It's definitely rich people talk though. Yeah. Yeah. We've got two houses. Two of everything. All right guys.
Starting point is 00:36:45 In other news, the Kelly Clarkson show has come to an end. Oh, man. Yeah, she's leaving after seven seasons. Now, she's saying that she's prioritizing family and saying that it wasn't an easy decision, but that's what she's going to do. I have to assume
Starting point is 00:37:01 As much as I like the Jennifer Hudson show, that people realize that this type of thing is a real job. Oh, yeah. But wait, there's more. I have more. Sherry Shepherd also canceled after four seasons. Due to the evolving daytime television landscape. Now, there's rumors that Jennifer Hudson might be.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's a rumor. And Drew Barrymore is in there, too. The all might be gone? Rumors. It's hard that that gig The daytime talk gig is hard And also guys here's what I would tell you What I what I bet's going on here is a lot of the
Starting point is 00:37:39 Wives who were chilling at home and watching daytime talk or husbands Whoever's home during that daytime I bet a lot of those people like everybody else are now sitting around scrolling their phones Absolutely And they're just 1,000 people So they're not turning the TV on anymore You've got to give them a reason to turn on the TV Also this is network bro
Starting point is 00:37:57 You know how many apps and shows you know, bro, I can binge because remember back in the day it was soap operas. So you would just turn it on the afternoon. Maybe there was a Murph Griffin or something. But you was watching. No, not Murv Griffin. Andy Griffith. No, I'm talking about the talk shows.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, but that wasn't Murr, wasn't Murv on? Merv Griffin was during the day? I don't remember that. That's ahead of my time. Price is right. Price is right. That's now we're talking game show. What else was on the afternoon? Wasn't Sally Jesse Raphael?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yes. But I'm saying before Sally Jesse, like I'm telling like old school, general hospital. Well, that was always, yeah, mornings into afternoons. Right. So now all of that content still exists or styles of that content. You could watch, you know, Taylor Sheridan's got damn all these damn soap operas. You got Landman of Tulsa King. I mean, how many different shows are there?
Starting point is 00:38:52 So am I going to sit down and watch a conversation every day or am I going to cut on a show with a plot and a story? There's so much content That's gonna pull you away from watching a daily show Yeah and people see the clips online I always had that thought about Jennifer Hudson show Is that like the dance clips have gotten so popular And I'm like that hit everyone's algorithm Super hard is watching people dance
Starting point is 00:39:14 And I just thought does any of this translate To people watching the show Yo Jay HUD can I get the spirit tunnel though Since you're not using that no more I like the spirit tunnel Hey it's a rumor for hers You know what all I could think about though and hopefully that show won't get canceled. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:29 A lot of people work on that show. All I could think about what the spirit tunnel is, Dan, they pay a lot of salaries on that show. They got like 25 people in that spirit tunnel. What are you all doing? Learning a new chant. What are you guys do besides chant? I want to know because I'm like...
Starting point is 00:39:43 No, but that's what I'm saying, though, it's hard to have shows that employ that many people. Heavy lift. 25, 30 people working on a daytime show. You got to get a lot of people watching that. Well, then I didn't even get to Tooby. I know, I know we make fun of To be. Tooby and Zeus but man people are watching that I love to be we're talking about
Starting point is 00:40:00 Evolve every Wednesday night at the clock the Zeus now I'm a star of toby what are you talking about? Oh yeah my wrestling my show's on to be on too be really yeah bro You know with friends like you you don't know that my show that I do commentary on a wrestling show That airs every Wednesday night on to be you haven't heard me mention that I've never heard me I didn't put it together that it was on to be for some reason I thought it was just like wrestling And by the way to be isn't Zeus bro Zeus is a channel Tobe is like an app That's just a way to watch lots of different things and they have originals
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's Netflix but free That's it I'm not saying it's you know I'm all I'm saying it was my show But there is a lot of people there are a lot of people checking it on to be yeah To watch movies for free they have some original program Shout to Tooby Sounds to Tooby But the content Y'all can we get over?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Would we be popping on Toobie? I don't know what was that Laura? I said the content on the Zeus network is so crazy I haven't I haven't tapped in Laura's watching No no I'm not watching I don't subscribe I don't subscribe
Starting point is 00:41:02 But I just to To your point Tired of Laura acting People love it And it's bottom of the barrel type is Wow look at her slender It's bottom of the barrel
Starting point is 00:41:12 It is It is and people love it Yo Rassan you're watching Zeus yep Oh That's bad That's bad That's bad
Starting point is 00:41:20 Ebro that proved the point Lord If it's beneath Baskam It's under the pavement You don't even have a Hey, Baskin, did you watch, I know one thing's beginning a ton of talk recently. Did you watch Traders? No.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Didn't watch Traders. What's traitors? What's that? Traders is on Peacock and it's a very big show. Give me a plot. Some people are telling the truth. Some people are lying. It's a reality show?
Starting point is 00:41:45 It's a reality show. And the people try to figure out who's telling the truth and who's lying. Okay. And this year it got people super all riled up because Michael Rappaport was on the show. Oh, that's a lot. And he was and he was kicked off so early mostly because people just couldn't stand him and like I'm not gonna lie it did he was so unappealing on the clips that were moving around it made me want to watch the show. Hey yo Michael Rappaport yeah they got him up out of there super quick he's the worst he's really the worst he's trying to run for mayor I can't I know you know that Michael Rappaport was I didn't I didn't have this on my Bingle card from Michael Rappaport.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I know. I did not. I thought he was acting in higher learning. No, no. He's, now he's really Remy. Yeah. So, Anna Mena. And, like my music, my
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Starting point is 00:43:00 tendions, but of who they're just not a bright I thought he was acting in bamboozle well he hasn't gone all the way there might as well
Starting point is 00:43:13 but to be I mean he is such a tool he is such a tool and by the way I do understand people who were incredibly emotionally affected by October 7th yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:43:25 And I could see how that for a while that could send you into a place of being like very protective or I could see all these kind of emotions and those people in the chat who don't get that. Cool. It's fine. Choose not to understand other people's situation. But to then have time passed where you in theory start to inform yourself as you get to know this issue and maybe listen to other people who are scholarly on it. Not just the people who are telling you, thank you. We support you. Can you come help us and be a part of this? Can we fly you here?
Starting point is 00:43:55 No, he went full griff. Can we make you a mascot for us? Can we? That's where And, you know, him and I got into it because at some point during his early days of going crazy pro-Israel and just being hateful, in my opinion, and terrible,
Starting point is 00:44:12 I called him stupid. I just said, you are stupid. You are not an educated person. You are not very bright. And you should listen to other people who are smarter. I guess he was really offended because I know him. We've had a personal relationship for a long time.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And I think he was offended that rather than like hit him directly, I aired him out publicly. To which I say, I understand how you feel. However, you're making these dumb opinions publicly. Right? And so like as a public person making public opinions, I'm now responding. Yo, this man texted me so crazy and said the most foul things about literally about my father. What? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 What? How come he never told us this? So he had opinions of your father. of the whole time. No, no, because he only got to know this, I guess, after I got into it, maybe he heard me in the episode of Wannep where I talked about him, maybe he heard me talking about my dad and he went and looked it up. Let me give you the exact, let me give you the exact lingo here so we don't get that one. And for the audience, why, why you looked that up, why would Michael Rappaport not like your dad? Um, because. Because he's been a,
Starting point is 00:45:21 because your dad's been outspoken about the crimes of Israel. More than outspoken, right? I mean, he's, you know, my dad is writing about it every day. Yeah. He wrote. Oh, my gosh. Oh, let's see, let's see. So now I see we talked above that at some point, too, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I just can't believe you never told us. I definitely mentioned it. I feel like he mentioned it. I did. On October 28th, 2023, we had a long back and forth. Then I guess at some point I went far on the air probably and called him stupid. He wrote, you fat matzabal bleep. Don't mention my name again in any way, shape, or form ever.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I facetimed your dumb P-word ass yesterday. You didn't pick up or hit me back. Don't say Michael Rappaport in any terms. You're a self-hating short F with daddy issues. Your father's a self-hating Jew, the worst kind, and raised a self-hating stereotype Jew. That was it? kind. I wrote,
Starting point is 00:46:27 Shut your bitch ass up. Please, Rosam. I wrote, hey dude, sorry I missed your FaceTime. Obviously, I struck a chord with you. And I apologize because I definitely spoke about you in insulting terms that I did not have to use. That said, we see this issue very, very differently. And I have to assume the only reason you've been saying and doing the things you've been saying and doing is because of ignorance. There is no way someone could have all the information available and believe that what we are seeing happen
Starting point is 00:46:54 right now is the best way forward for the safety and security for both Jewish and Palestinian people. If you want to have a real conversation about the issue and are open to hearing some things, I am down to. And what do he reply with? I could give a bleep about a conversation, your opinions or any of that. Apologize on your podcast like you said to whatever you said on your podcast. I could give a bleep about anything else you say or do. I speak to you in real life.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I have a rule about issuing on people I speak to in real life, period. That was it. Me didn't hit him back. Guess you never saw the apology. You attacked my family like a bleeping Looney Tune but didn't catch the apology. Hope the screaming the same is over and over again into your camera is effective, Henry Kissinger. Because at that point he was just screaming the same things every day, every day. Are you triggered?
Starting point is 00:47:51 I am by some dude from New York who happens to be. be Jewish, thinking that he speaks on behalf of all Jewish people? That doesn't trigger you at all? What triggers me the most about it is, and this is why I got so angry, is you just came to this story. You didn't, you were not an active person who knew about this prior to October 7th. You know, but in fairness, my dad's only been deeply entrenched in this since night, the mid-60s. So you show up, Some Hollywood actor with a, but by the way, be clear, very successful, great career. That you, no, it's a great career. No, it's good.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It's not for a regular guy. No, he's not Denzel Washington or Robert De Niro. You went with very successful. That's a successful career, bro. If you set out as an actor, you set out as an actor and you do movies, Spike Lee, Scorsese, Woody Al, he's done it all. And then did the Tribe Call Quest Doc. Yes. No question he had a great career.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Okay. And you've tried, you have now taken that brand. And burned it to the ground because you were really emotionally affected by a very emotional and terrible event. And you allowed your brain to then be molded the way other people intended it to be molded and are not open to hearing real conversation. And frankly, become a clout chaser because the more you yell and scream into your camera, the more likes you get, the more conversation you get. Okay. That to me is deserving of how I described it. Of really, really stupid.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, you're a schmidian. That's just being a little bitch. And you're missing the point. And what's the most upsetting about it is, if in your heart you really care about the safety and well-being of Jewish people, which he seems to be obsessed with, what you're doing is not helping. And that's really sad. You are dividing further and making it worse.
Starting point is 00:49:50 So, you know, and then the idea of like, yeah, I called you an idiot, but you had to come from my father and call him a self-hating Jew of all things. I know. Well, and then the other thing I was at. two and we can wrap this up after this or I ask myself this as I'm watching this play out. Do people honestly believe that this moment in history will ever just become a footnote where there will be some sort of forgiveness for the United States of America, forgiveness for the supporters and the and this current government of Israel?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Do people believe that there's an like we'll get to the other side? I don't know. Like what's on the other side? We don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Well, here's the thing, though. I pray there's somehow another side. But either way, how would there be forgiveness or any real like compassion for the people who had access to the information, the means to get the information? And all they did was from the safety and security of their own home scream about how justifying violence against And that goes back to what, you know, forgiving people or people being regretful. for voting for Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Also, you had the information. It was publicly talked about. That's been a big thing. Have you, I'm curious, have you, I'm curious to see if you run into, because I know occasionally, not very often, you can occasionally run into Andrew Schultz. Yeah, but I haven't.
Starting point is 00:51:17 He's been big out here now like, shut up. No, and he really, no, he's really. The last time I saw Andrew Schultz, I was walking in the hell's kitchen on my mother-in-law's birthday. And so I had literally had the entire family, and he was going somewhere with his woman.
Starting point is 00:51:29 He grabbed my arm was like, yo what's up bro i was like yo what's up heading in the house kitchen so so he now has said he's like fully out on everything that's happening and he's did not ever think it could go this way and it's i don't think he's lying in how he feels about it i think he's being truthful that he's really disturbed by it but i just well no the question that's how we got here no but the question then goes okay taking that at face value you didn't think we could get here which means you had faith in this country and this government that we would never get here, despite people telling you that this is where it's going. So you had more faith in the government, in the marketing,
Starting point is 00:52:12 than you did in human beings who were being affected or knew the history of this nation. So my next question goes, how will you find faith in this government ever again then? Or did you never have faith? Well, that's good. You're giving those people a lot of credit and saying they must have really just believed something positive. Okay, so then it was a grift. So you knew it had potential. And so you just decided to ignore that for the sake of the grift. Because now you got to sell out your Madison Square Gardens.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You got your Hitler haircut. You got your Hitler mustache. You jumped on stage at the garden, sold a bunch of tickets. You and Charlemagne did your podcast and did all your song and dance. You did all your things. Got your clicks and got your likes. And so now the new grift is, I'm going to apologize. So that's what I think it is.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I don't even know if it was all the way a conscious I'm going to grift. It was that you do this thing in your head where you're like, no, I mean, I'm just someone who's going to interview him. I'm not going to, I'm not going to outright support him. I'm just going to give him the platform and I'm just going to. Right, because we need to have conversations with people we disagree with. So I think, Laura, I'll let you go. But I think it's playing this plausible deniability game.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And now it's become the worst version of it. And now you want to backtrack off of it. But to Ebro's point, everyone was saying, this is really bad. This is really dangerous. You are harming people by making this normal. That Schultz interview with Trump was right down the stretch of the election. And it was one of those moments that Trump really excels in where he really seems normal. And you can really treat him in this way where he's relatable and comfortable.
Starting point is 00:53:50 That had a fact. That mattered. So what are you going to do now with your platform beyond saying, my bad, Right. What are you now going to do? Because the milk is out of the utter. What are you going to do? But I don't think.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But so that takes me back to the grift because they know they don't have to do anything except entertain. Get the clicks and shift on to whatever the next hustle is, whatever the next trend. And this is going so bad for Trump right now. And the ice thing looks so bad. And you can see his approval ratings are terrible. So now you can play the other side. And there'll be a lot of clicks to say, ooh, this is bad. And here's the safe landing.
Starting point is 00:54:31 According to what Laura was pointing out earlier on the show and what we're seeing on social media, a lot of people are in this boat. So now they have their spokesperson to be like, you know, I screwed up too. The my bad. You know, my bad. My bad. You know, I didn't think it could get this bad. So, Laura, do you think it was an intentional drift?
Starting point is 00:54:49 I just feel like, just to excuse it as like, oh, I'm just going to interview him. No, he was spewing this pro-Trump rhetoric before this. So it's like leading up to it. And whoever else is on the show was like, they would just laugh about it and entertain it. And it led to them getting that Trump interview. And now my bad, all while people's lives are being destroyed, people are scared because their aunt could get taken.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Their mothers, their children. Like, it's bad guys. And he didn't Trump always say day one, we're going to have the biggest deportation of the U.S. system? It's always there. And nobody, and we, well, nobody listened to our radio show. And they definitely didn't get the clips online, which is why we realize that when we started doing this, there's people actually watching the show now.
Starting point is 00:55:34 For the first time. Nobody actually was getting these clips because all they wanted to put out was Loris flashing lights and us talking about rappers. But we've been talking about this for a while. Well, they would throw out numbers. We're going to round up two million. We're going to rate. He said 11 million and he said 21 million once. Of them.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And he was like, there's 20 million illegal people. And I was like, do you know what 20 million people getting round up? It's like, you know what that looks? And most people don't know what that looks like. No. So that means you're an effing idiot because you heard these crazy numbers. And you didn't take it serious. Or you're so jaded by talking crazy on the internet and watching the internet that you were like, ah, he's just talking.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's not going to happen. But it doesn't matter. Why would you be okay with that talk? Why would you be okay with that talk? Yo, Schultz. Congratulations. Now, would you interview Andrew Schultz? I've thought about that.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I've thought about that. I'd be more apt to interview Schultz probably than say a, like I would never interview Tommy Loren or Candice or Katie Miller or any of those people. Schultz is interesting because I don't believe that he is the worst of those kind of people. I think there's an interesting conversation to be had that could potentially be effective. You know what I'm saying? I don't believe he's evil and wants to spread evil, but he made choices where he put his own.
Starting point is 00:56:58 success of his podcast ahead of the well-being of his fellow Americans. So I don't know. It's the same way I feel about Charlemagne. You know, like, there's certain things that he does that I'm like, oh my God, how? But at the same time, I don't think Charlaman's heart is terrible and he wants bad things to happen to people, but he does things that make me go, how could you do that in that moment? Do you see what I'm saying? I see a difference. I delineate between the people who are outright, I know what side they're on. And hustling grifters who just, jump at the opportunity to get clicks and make money. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:32 No, listen, that's what it is. If you know something's bad and you have a platform where you're successful and you're like, yo, this is bad. Oh, but it's going to be hot. It's going to move around. It's going to go viral. Right? And you say, yeah, but I don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I don't need to take that one. I'm going to pass on that one because I don't like it. Yeah. I'm aware of the discussion. Right, like that's what that's what it is. Yeah. It's not hot to do that though.
Starting point is 00:58:05 It's not, you're not John Blaze. And you're not, I mean, look, you can't do big numbers. Listen, we're struggling to have 50,000 subscribers. Right, come on. We'd be over a million right now. If we had Sneco and Aidan Ross, who else we could, anyone we could get up here to sit here? Run it up! Whoever said the racist thing in chats that we could get to come talk with us?
Starting point is 00:58:24 I interview him. I can't. Give them a platform. Talk to them. Like they really have an opinion. Let's see what we can glean from this. Yeah, me. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:31 We need to learn a little bit about each other. I do not need to learn about somebody who goes out in public and uses the N-word knowing that it's wrong, knowing that you're just trying to do it to offend people. I like back in the day when they were more overt with it, you know what I mean? Like in the Donahue-Heraldo era. When they would just bring the-in-head-off. No, the Klansman would just be on there with the hood on. They'd be like, yo, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:58:53 And people would come out and just yell at them and they're like, I hate you, European. And then they were just getting to a fight. That, see, just be honest, let it be. That's John Blaze. And sometimes the first fight would happen. Well, no, and if you're really about that life, if you're really a white supremacist, put the costume on. That's what I'm saying. But I guess they kind of are putting the costume on.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Right, it's a new costume. It's just a new costume. The costumes. Yeah, now it's a slick haircut. You know what I mean? But they went and started doing the tight fate. What was the guy, you know, I don't know his name, the guy that was running ice that looks like the character from the Tiana Taylor movie? Bojino.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Bovino. Bovino. Bovino. Bovino. I always get Bovino and Bongino confused. He had the costume on. Yeah. No, he wore a costume.
Starting point is 00:59:33 No, he wore a costume. The costume was crazy. Speaking of, what is that, Bovino? That's different than Bogino. Bonino. That's two different people. Yeah. Wasn't there a clip where Trump said he's going to nationalize elections?
Starting point is 00:59:44 Oh, yeah, that was with Bonino. Let me see that clip. And they vote illegally. And the, you know, amazing that the Republicans aren't tougher on it. The Republicans should say, we want to take over. could take over the voting in at least many, 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting. We have states that are so...
Starting point is 01:00:08 That's a problem. That's a problem, folks. It's not what you want. Nationalizing the voting, meaning the reason this thing is holding up, the reason this thing is holding up barely is because the states can at least protect the integrity of their own elections. That's right. To nationalize it.
Starting point is 01:00:26 and basically that the Republicans take over. He is openly saying, I want to cheat. We want to cheat. We got to set this up. It's not working the way I thought of one. Remember, even if you believe that there's problems in the voting, okay, even if you're one of the people that's like, listen, someone needs to do something that's too much illegal voting. Let's just play along, which is why they went into Fulton County, by the way. Remember, they believe that there was cheating in 2020, even though Trump's own supporters, his attorney.
Starting point is 01:00:56 attorneys, Republican judges. Everyone has looked at that. They've done a recount, manual recount. No cheating was found in 2020 in Fulton County, Georgia. It was just not there. But let's just play along. That means that ultimately, right, he wants to take away checks and balances. Correct.
Starting point is 01:01:15 He doesn't want other eyes on this. Correct. Which leads to your point of the cheating. All of this is about sequestering, hiding, putting up some. sort of blocks so that others cannot see what's going on. And then you can take the election. And then you can cheat. And what I said to Ebro last week was I'm actually surprised that this democracy thing
Starting point is 01:01:37 has held up as well as it has. It somehow fought against this through them trying to do it. But this one in Georgia where he's, they said he got on the phone and had a pep talk, like a one minute pep talk with the people that they sent in there to try to find the votes. He got them on the phone. It was basically like hyping up like, go find these votes. Let's go get him. And you said, what's her face was there?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Tulsi Gabbard. She's there and he's hyping them up to go find. They only need to find 12,000 votes, right? They're not there. They don't exist. But guys, they could. There are ballots. There could be unused ballots.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Those ballots could all of a sudden get used. I know. Then they could be found. Then all of a sudden, even though everyone has said the claims of the 2020 election being rigged, it's completely false, he would have the proof that he needs, that he completely created in front of our eyes. He's saying it. He's been doing it.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Why are you still obsessed with this? The only reason he's still obsessed with this is because he thinks he could find it. He thinks there's a way he can get this done. Otherwise, he would have moved on. He thinks he can do it. And then he will never have to leave office. Yeah. And then the whole conversation about who's next for the Republicans.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Congratulations. Trump. You plagued yourself. Let's get to the gurus. It's guru time. You got something ready? Sure I do. About to wrap up today.
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Starting point is 01:03:12 The original gurus at gmail.com. For the gurus, unite. To shine the light. Hi, Rosenberg. He's writing to us. Who needs us? Zen. Zen.
Starting point is 01:03:28 The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com. Your destination for clarity. All right, here we go. So happy you all are still together. Let me put a mic. Well, not all. We got to find cast one.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I saw him. I talked to cast one the other day. What he said? I asked him how much he was getting paid over there. So that way, you know what I'm saying? Like maybe our subscribers or something get crazy. Laura'll get this merch out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:00 We can use some merch money. Put it on Laura's merch, huh? It's always your Laura's fault on the merch. If we can sell merch every month, we can bring the crew back. Hey, you never know. We love you all. Shout out to the OG gurus, Rosenberg, Laura, and Shawnee. Even Cass 1.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Ebro, I love you, but you're not a guru. Faj Calvoys. But you can participate as long as you don't do the snorting thing. Please. We want to be Zen, Zen, Zen. Zen. My very close friend has been in a bad relationship and has a child from the most recent one. Soon before getting pregnant, she was back and forth about the relationship and was even planning on how to get him out of her house.
Starting point is 01:04:33 She told me that he doesn't treat her well, takes advantage, yells at her, etc. Basically every red flag besides hitting her. Well, she had the baby anyway, and they are still together. I've supported her by validating her feelings when she complains and encourage her that she deserves to be treated better. She is now planning on getting pregnant again and wants me to be happier for her. I told her I will always love and support her and her children, but I am wondering, why she is continuing with him. She asked for my opinion.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I didn't just give it. I think she's decided to settle and is pretending things aren't bad, which is fine. It's her life. I don't think he's a good person because of how she told me he treats her. But when I see him and them together,
Starting point is 01:05:13 they're always cordial. He's always cordial. She wants to double date and create some relationship between us, which feels fake and weird. I'm trying not to judge, but how can I suddenly start hanging out with them together
Starting point is 01:05:24 and celebrating their relationship when I know what's really going on? I want to support her, but how can I just pretend she's not in a toxic relationship? By her account, not my opinion. Can you even stay friends with someone who doesn't support your relationship? How? Thank you, gurus. You're all so loved and needed in the community.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Thanks. Wait, the gurus are needed in the community? Yeah. I think everybody. Oh. I mean, I guess it all depends because I had a friend like this, but this is my situation. I ended up cutting her off because I couldn't do it. Why?
Starting point is 01:05:57 Well, she was being treated very badly. And then when it got physical and I helped and she still kept going back, I was like, I can't. Yeah, can't effort. I cannot. I cannot be able to this. Because then it started, it started affecting me emotionally. You know what I mean? And I was like, I don't want this type of energy.
Starting point is 01:06:12 That's like the classic you're walking on the street and you see a couple getting into it. And the guy steps in and is like, hey, man, back up. That's happened to me before. And then they turned around and try to punch you in the face. Yeah, well, that's a punch. And I was about to call the cops and curse me out. And then the girl jumps in against you too. She was like, what?
Starting point is 01:06:27 I was like, I'm going to call the cops. She was like, you better have a night. I think once it gets physical, once I find out, I've had friends who I found out were like hitting their women or whatever. I can't rock with you. I can't. I thought, I don't like none of that. It's kind of like if I found out a friend was like doing cocaine or something like that.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I can't, I can't. I think I have a tougher standard for the hitting than the cocaine. No, I'm just saying there's certain things. It's like, yo, you do coke, bro? That's a line for you. That's on the same field, though. No, it's not. I'm just saying there's items.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I'm running through the items. I'm running through my left. I got news for you. You got friends who do coke. Yeah, they don't do it for me. I don't know. What if you chew a mushroom here? Friends?
Starting point is 01:07:04 I don't know if I got friends. I know friends that. Friends? Yeah. Guaranteed. You know this? You did Coke with them? I've never done coke, but I guarantee.
Starting point is 01:07:13 You have the way about Coke that I always had growing up of like, oh my God, you do that. Like they said, say no to drugs. I have that same thing. People who have partied in certain ways, it's not as big. I'm just being on it. It's just not as. ask around the day. I mean, I know a lot of people who do coke. Yeah, I know. I have lots of...
Starting point is 01:07:30 Now, no, do I know people who do coke? Yeah, you said friends. I don't consider a lot of people I know to be necessarily my friends. I think they're... No, I think you're seeing it. I don't want to downplay it because I'm not trying to downplay it. But like, I don't think Coke's a big deal. I just don't hang out with people who do coke like that. I don't think they do it in front of you because they know that me...
Starting point is 01:07:48 And I don't, not in front of me either because we're both squares. But just like I wouldn't hang out with somebody who's hitting a woman. It's not the same. It's a terrible comp. I want you to change it. No, I'm just saying these are my lines. I'm not saying it's the same. I'm not saying he's with my lines. No, I'm telling you your lines are different
Starting point is 01:08:01 because you're one of the lines, your friends are doing lines. White line. Yeah, I just don't think it's that as deep. But anyways, wait, so coaxes are acceptable now. I think it's been that way forever. Yeah, I think it's pretty acceptable.
Starting point is 01:08:16 But to me, I see it should be less acceptable considering all the nasty is that's out here, you don't know what you're getting. That's what I always tell my friend. The fentanyl, right? That's causing a death. Fentlaw and the Coke, correct. So I tell them all the time, are you going to die?
Starting point is 01:08:29 The days of the 80s, that was at the time when they told us it was the worst was actually when you probably would have been I. Can you casual, the problem? Can you casually be a Coke user or are you just using Coke once you're using Coke like you're using Coke? You really sound like me at 15 right now. It's crazy. No, they're definitely people who casually do it once twice a year.
Starting point is 01:08:49 They're at a party. Oh, it's the grandmas. And you're doing Coke. Yes. For sure. For sure. I mean, there's lots of people who abuse it. For sure.
Starting point is 01:08:56 That too. I don't want to make it sound like there aren't coke heads out of here. Yes. But I didn't know how close you. I didn't know what the line is. Like, I don't know how addictive it is. I have mad,
Starting point is 01:09:04 mad friends and loved ones who have done coke and are not coke heads alone. Got, for sure. Matter of fact, what are you guys doing like? I do want to try, but it's too late now. I'm 46.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I don't like it. I've never liked how they talk about it. Like you stay up? Why do I want to stay up? But it goes real quick, too. Like, why do I want any of this? I just don't trust what's in it. Well, that was before that.
Starting point is 01:09:24 but it was when I was like, why you want to know about her relationship? We just left. Someone's doing coke. They're doing coke out here, lady. I don't, I can I, I'll say this. You didn't tell us that this guy's abusing her. You said that she complains about him being kind of crappy and like not treating her great and their relationship sounds toxic.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I'm not trying to downplay that, but without any specific information, if she's telling you this is the relationship she wants to be in and sometimes the guy's an a-hole, but she wants to have another kid with him and she loves him. Unless she has told you something that you know is like, oh my God, that's beyond the pale. Right. We all have friends that are in some toxic relationships. Is he doing a cope?
Starting point is 01:10:04 And you know what? Is he hitting her? Like, what are we talking about? Those are the two things. Trying on the double date and see how it goes. If he's terrible in the double day. She already said he's not. That's the thing she already said in person.
Starting point is 01:10:14 He's like really cordial. I think you just got to, she's your friend. You got to do the dance. Well, you know what? Do the dance. Do the dance. Do the dance. And if it gets bad, then stop doing the dance.
Starting point is 01:10:23 That's it. But right now, it just sounds like they fight sometimes and she complains to you. And now you're like, I don't want to, you should, come on, just do the dance. Just do the dance. And people do dance when they're doing coke, by the way. So you can't stop now. And they probably would dance to this terrible music. That's right.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Hey, buddy, got some? What did you bring? Let's go. Let's go bathroom, bro. Hey, do the dance. All right. Hope that help. Yeah, that is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Those are the gurus. You know, listen, man, it's a good time. that was fun. Thanks for joining the program. We covered a lot today. Oh, boy. Listen, subscribe and like. Please like. It was brought to my attention, courtesy of Rosenberg and King Lou that aren't a lot of likes. Y'all, y'all in there chatting, but we ain't getting the likes. So hit the like button. It helps the algorithm. It helps more people get exposed to the program, more exposure. Obviously, make sure we can keep this thing running because we're currently running this thing off our own gumption. Yeah, my man sent a couple of, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:23 suggestions for the do the dance shirt just now. Okay. Oh, yes. Okay, okay, okay. One looks like it's Prince themed, which is interesting. That's definitely Prince thing. Yes. Do the dance.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I kind of like it, though. I kind of like it, too. That's actually like a dope-looking shirt. Yeah. Oh, my God. Then he said, what's that a Marionette? What are those going? Marionette, but it's given menstrual.
Starting point is 01:11:43 It's given to menstrual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. This is more straightforward to do the dance. Do the dance. That looks like a cheerleader font or something. Oh, yeah, it does like a Laker girl. It's giving Laker girls.
Starting point is 01:11:57 There you go. All right, all right. And then this is more like big shiny bootleg kind of vibes. Do the dance. I don't love that one. That's giving flash dance. It's given more flash dance. My favorite of them so far is actually the Prince vibes.
Starting point is 01:12:07 All right, dude, dance. But I'd want to see maybe a little bit of a shoulder shimmy in it somehow. I don't know how to do it. Well, we'll figure it out. Chast the Chase. We're working. Oh, Chase. Thanks for the graphics.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Thanks, bro. See you tomorrow. Remember, we're dropping a Patreon. today. So lock in on that. And then we'll be back in La Maniana. I got to travel to San Francisco Super Bowl time. So I got to go do.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yo. I got to go do the dance. Oh, he's out there dancing, pal. He's doing all the dances. Have a good time. That's fun. Oh, oh, oh, oh. He's going to be in the suite.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Not putting on, I won't say he puts on a white voice, but it will. There's little, he takes the bass down. Like, he turns the base from me. Hey, man, how are you? So nice to meet you. Yeah, man. Pleasure. Cool, man. Cool, man.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Oh, you know, Malania? It looks like a pretty good doc. I mean, everyone deserves to have their story to me. Whoa, whoa, that's not. Wow. Wow. Actually, no, everybody does this service. That's right.
Starting point is 01:13:11 She was just a poor girl for a worship, Latvia. She was just a male order. She was just a male order. I was sorry. My love. Bye. Just don't follow the podcast.

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