The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 30.) Shaboozey's GRAMMY Speech, More Epstein Conspiracies, + Ebro at the Super Bowl (2/5/26)

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg discuss Shaboozey Addresses Grammys Speech, More Epstein Conspiracies, NBA All Star Game Fall Off, Ebro In SF for the Super Bowl, Toe Wrestling, Washington Post Firings, the Rundown, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just don't call in a podcast. Hey. Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Good morning, everyone. It's Ibril-law-Rosberk. Sorry, we're tardy. I don't know what that was.

We got a countdown. Then I heard the beat. Then I... It's this one day. My biggest goal for this show is that when the countdown ends, the show starts. I wonder what that is. Yo, it's the three, two, two, One.

And at you wait? Any wait? I'm on positive, Bob, so I'm not going to tell you guys that it's Rassan's fault. I'm not going to do that. Oh, my God. I'm not going to wonder why it's happening and there's been no communication about it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to do it.

He's doing good. Overall things are good. I'm going to start bitching again next week. See, but this is the problem I have. I have, this is the problem I have with life. People like you who settle. That's why there's doo-doo so much. do-do on your block right now. That attitude

is why there's so much do-do on your block. Overall, it's good. No, it's not. The do-doos stuck to the ice after a few days of people's dog dudes sticking to ice in New York now just looks like there's do-do-marts all over the sidewalk. It's not okay.

It's so nasty. And so when people don't really want to take things serious, you got do-do-o on your block. Do-do-on-you-on-you-block. I thought this was I-Berough-Bee-Chill through the weekend. How do we get here? Well, because it's good overall.

It's not good enough. Well, no, sometimes I'm just saying that to wrap up the conversation so I can try to keep you on the rails. But I miss step, step right to right to do it. Now you know that's going to step right in the ish. Right in the dood. I will say it's, it is outside. It is nuts that people in New York right now have just full on given up.

Like in my neighborhood up here on the Upper West Side, it is just snow and piles of ish everywhere. Ew, so disgusting. Like you have a big dog. I'm not talking about you had a Maltese or a Shih Tzu. I'm talking about you walked outside with a damn Rottweiler or a German shepherd and just let that joint drop. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Yo, jail. Jail. Yeah. I'm right in jail. Yeah. You're saying jail over doo-doo from a dog. In 2026.

I can't even fathom putting somebody in jail over that. All right, not jail, but like a ticket, a good one. Yeah, fine. Fine. How about that? How about a good 250? Because people get too comfortable, too loose, leaving Duky everywhere. It's disgusting.

You went from jail to 250, which tells me I've never been in jail. I know you've never been in jail. Jail is a big jump. Listen, I'm just saying this. For me, if you literally, could watch your dog drop a huge deuce and not try to cover it, not look around and ask someone for a bag.

Because usually in New York, if you wait in the city, Laura, for a good 60 seconds, some other dog person's coming by. You're like, do you have a bag? And then you can pick it up and do it. If you just watch them drop a huge ish and straight up keep walking.

And to me, that is so diabolical, I would have no problem with you being tossed in a cell for a day. Think about that. Why do you treat your city like that? Now, keep in mind, I don't feel much different, by the way. I would do a day in jail if I saw someone driving down the street and when they finish their food, because this is a New York thing too, they just take their big thing of garbage and drop it out the window, jail.

Driving right to jail. Yeah. That's great. That is crazy you would do that to the place that you live. I know. These are diabolical people. Listen, listen, I agree. I would like to say, you know, if you're willing to do that,

sort of thing, you need some sort of hefty punishment, right? Hefty punishment, because it would have to be, it would have to start somewhere. It would be like crossing the border multiple times, right? If you cross the border or overstay your welcome here or in any country, right, it starts with a fine. Some countries are a little bit more aggressive, but the United States of America, you cross the border, or you overstay your visa, it is a civil misdemeanor. It starts with a fine, okay? And then sometimes that fine could go upwards of like $5,000. Okay? Then after that, multiple offenses they start talking about jail.

I don't like the comp. I don't like the comp. Yeah, I don't like it either. Well, that's why I'm bringing it up. That's why I'm bringing it up. No, no, because they're crossed in the border. It's jail. And I'm telling you, it's not even, that's not even jail.

You guys are jumping to jail over dog poo and litter. There's people who jump. I'm trying to give you context. You're not even picking up on it. There are people who think that the border is jail, and I'm telling you it's not. But now it's detention center. It's concentration camp.

You might die. You might get raped. You might get sexually assaulted. You definitely won't get your medicine, and the guards who are watching you at the ice facility are going to laugh in your face when you need your medicine, or you want to use the bathroom or you want to bathe. But the thing that you're talking about showed no moral lapse.

The thing that Laura and I are discussing shows I know that there are people around me. I know that we share this community. I don't care about them. Garbage in your face. People who just want to be in this country. Listen, this is a phenop. And I agree with you. But I'm just letting you know that we're in the upside down world.

Yeah. Where literally. Listen, a lot of people who are in this country literally drove through a legal port. They didn't swim across a river or sneak in on a boat. They drove in in a car through a legal port, most of them, by percentage. And they're getting treated like you guys want to treat people who don't pick up dog do. Yeah, well, it's not right. Okay, the dog do people deserve.

That's the worst or the worst. They want to get rid of the worst, the worst. Start with the dog do people. There you go. Well, how about this? We can't even know. Right now, I thought about this yesterday. With all the Epstein noise, right?

The abuse of women, the abuse of children. Trafficking young girls, all the Epstein. You know who's actually in jail? The only woman who was involved. Oh yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. She's the only one right now.

That's so funny. I didn't even think about that. Yes. The only one. The only one. Is the woman. None of the men. And there's not even conversation about prosecuting people.

Well, now that, I'm just trying to understand, like, where Maxwell, like, what her actual role was. Besides being friend of Epstein, who. who helps something. No, she was like the madam. She was the recruiter. She was the recruiter. She was the madam, the babysitter, the, you know what I mean? The whole thing.

Yeah, she was very much a part of it. But like, for example. And I guess allegedly his girlfriend, too. But like, for example, when, Laura, is there any way you can push your laptop back a tiny bit to make you the same height as me and Ebro? Oh, okay. Our inconsistency is bothering.

Oh, they're getting smaller. But what I'm saying is. quality control, God damn it. This is what I like to see. You're still taller than us. Can you do, can you turn it? Oh, my God. Oh, that's really what it is.

Rosenberg doesn't want you taller than him. No, no, no. I don't care who, I don't want any of us taller than each other. Almost there. There you go. She's dropping down. There she is. Okay.

My thing with Maxwell, though, like when people would go higher Epstein, right? Epstein's out there. People know, hey, I want to, I want to get ex-politian to do X thing. Do we have any dirt on them? I want to get the U.S. to do X. thing for Israel. Russia wants to get the U.S. to do this. Oh, we got this guy Epstein.

He's got dirt on everyone. Were they hiring, like, were they hiring her as well, you think? Or she just worked directly for him. And he just had to be sort of. Her dad was the most famous Mossad agent in like history. So that doesn't mean. Just that part.

So she's already in, it's kind of already in there. And then, yes, her and Epstein were working together. That's how, I mean, why do you think she's in jail. I'm thinking it's because her, no, no, obviously they were she's all over and he's dead. And he's allegedly dead. You know people are going with

allegedly dead by the way now. Yeah, I don't know. I'm on the he's not dead situation. Really? I feel like there's a good chance. I mean, he did so many, he did so much work for so many different people. You know what I mean? I just think and although I don't know, he would have been probably useful dead for some people as well, of course. So,

it's kind of a tough call. But I sort of lean towards there's a good chance he's not dead. Interesting. Well, since we're on the Epstein thing in Rosenberg, I'm glad so much crazy stuff has gone on that now when you used to, we used to do the show together, you would rarely want to

believe a conspiracy theory. You're not full 180 on conspiracies and theories and corruption and cronyism, but you're getting, you're almost to where I'm at. I think

I think I'm similar to where you're at. I just think sometimes you say it. I think you're more apt to say it. And you don't always necessarily believe it all the way, but it makes for a fun conversation. And maybe I'm less apt to say it. But like, I don't think it's everything is the conspiracy theory. But listen, I've always been a sneaky 9-11 conspiracy theorist.

I just kind of like, I don't know enough to understand it. But I just saw things that happened that didn't make sense to me. Right? I'm certainly in October 7th conspiracy theorist where I certainly think that there was people in power that let that happen. So, you know, I guess I'm getting there. Tin hat?

Hat. Tin hat back? Tin hat back? Tin hat back. It's different than Shawnee's Tin hat. This is a different kind of tin hat. But yeah, for the big stuff, I'm kind of tin hat. Well, Shawnee, it's all corrupt.

And there's no one good. It's rotten to the core and there's no hope. It's rotten to the core and there's no hope. So I'm just going to pay my taxes and not participate in the system. By participating in the system. That's safe too. That's safe too. That one I can't do.

They're like, ah, they're all bad. I can't either. I have other friends in my other job like that too. Like, oh, you bring up politics.

I don't want to talk about politics. They're all bad. Bro. That's very lazy. We are being very lazy here. And you have to live here. You have to deal with the consequences. So wouldn't you want to have a say?

Again. Again, it's this. Do you want the, we're offering you a bird doo-doo sandwich, or we have a pretty dry grilled chicken. It's got some honey mustard. It's edible. This bird doo-doo is horrible. They're all bad.

Just give me the bird doo-doo. I just want to point out we've talked about doo-doo. We've only been on the air for, you know, 12 minutes. Isn't that fitting of America? Hit us with the button. Well, it is fitting. It's also, you know. It's also a dude.

You plagued yourself. There's a few items I want to get to. One of my favorite follows on Instagram is this IG account called Debunction Junction. Okay. The guy basically, you know, he basically goes and points out things, the goings-ons, whether it's true or false or who's saying what or this side is saying that. And anyway, he felt the need to delve into this Melania movie.

Okay. Did you guys see Melania? I think it was just yesterday or the day before. She had some hostages who were released. They were there and she wanted to slide in the promo of her movie. And then one of the reporter asked her, is this a good time while you're sitting here with these people who just got released to be talking about your movie? And she was like, this isn't promo. But she just promoted her movie.

I did not see that. And by the way, and by the way, we never see Malanya talk really ever. but now you're sitting down with depressed there and it's not a movie. But there's a, we were talking about Epstein, but there's another tie and go to the debunkion junction. Brett Ratner clip. Let's see. I'm curious about this.

Just taking it over, man. I thought it would. We were in such a great space. I definitely saw her sitting up there. All right. So we all know Melania Trump has a new documentary out. But did you know of all the people they could have picked to direct this thing? they had to pick this guy, Brett Ratner, who you guessed it, is in the Epstein files.

But it's not like Brett Ratner wasn't a problematic person prior to this Epstein dump. That's right. In 2017, at the height of the Me Too movement, six actresses told the Los Angeles Times that a prominent Hollywood director, that's Brett Ratner, was sexually violent towards them. And after Brett here was implicated in those Epstein files, Pierce Morgan here decided to ask him about it. As you know, a picture came out of you with Jeffrey Epstein, with two apparently young women in it.

What is your response to that picture? And what is your response to the wider scandal of the Epstein files? Oh, well, that picture in particular happened around 20 years ago, 19, 20 to 21 years ago, because that is a photograph of my fiancé who invited me to this event, and that's where the picture was taken. I had never been in contact with Jeffrey Epson.

and before that photo and I was never in contact with him after. So that's a picture of me and my fiance at some event. All right. So there you have Brett's explanation, but let's get some facts straight before we dig into this a little bit deeper. So yeah, according to Brett, this picture is from 20 years ago around 2006. He says the photo was taken at an event, which sounds like it's a big thing with a ton of different people. And then he says he was never in contact with Epstein before or after that night. So let's take a look here. And here is that picture that was shown on Pierce Morgan. Now, I don't know about you, but when I'm at some big event, I don't usually

cuddle up to someone I've never known before. And I also want you to look at these pictures that are behind here. And that's because in that same document dump, there was this photo that has those same two pictures that are here and here. And it also includes this big smiling guy here. But who is this guy that was also at this event? Well, thanks to this photo of that same smiling guy with bread in the same clothes and that same white couch behind him, we know that this guy is none other than Jean-Luc Brunel. But who is Jean-Luc Brunel? Well, as it turns out, in February of 2022, Jean-Luc Brunel, just like Epstein, was found dead in a prison cell. And it says down here that the 76-year-old had been held for over a year as he was investigated on

suspicion of the grape of minors and trafficking of minors for sexual exploitation. Gosh, what bad luck for Brett Ratner, huh? He just happens to go to this event and then ends up cuddling with not one, but two of the worst sex traffickers of minor girls of all time. And I think another important detail that Brett happened to leave out is where exactly was this party taking place? Well, if you look at the lampshade here, the white curtain, and these two architectural things on these doors here, and we go over here and we see those same two architectural things, the same lamp and the same curtain, and we go ahead and pull this out of the way. You'll see this was a story that said, Jeffrey Epstein's New York, Texas.

townhouse to sell for roughly 50 million. And for a guy who said he only had contact with Jeffrey Epstein that one time in 2006, it's not great that when you enter Brett Ratner into the full library, you get 68 results. And some of these entries certainly imply that there was a relationship going on after that 2006 meeting, like this one that's to Brett Ratner about Jeffrey Epstein. And it says, hello, Brett. Jeffrey would like to speak with you regarding redacted. Or this 2012 email from publicist Peggy Siegel,

to Jeffrey Epstein that says sitting next to Brett Ratner. He produced Woody's three-hour documentary that just was shown at Cannes. We are about to see Roman Polanski's documentary. Britt says hi and he loves you. And it's just beyond a coincidence that Trump could have hired anyone of a thousand directors to direct his wife's documentary, but he, Free Epstein. Bro. Incredible.

This guy goes hard, bro. The internet is amazing. They're better than the FBI. They just break it down. They're like, check out this lampshade. I'm like, you're like, oh, my God, it is the same one. People have time. You could have just told me, you know, Brett Ratner, he's a bad guy.

I would have been like, yep, I know. No, the craziest part to me is that Brett and that one's email, he's reaching out to, his person's reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein as he just directed a movie about Woody Allen. And he's about to go watch a movie about Roman Polanski. Yo, my man, how many creeps can you be associated with you? I know, bro. It's creep upon creep upon creep. And this is who is directing the great film, Malama.

Which is Amazon spent $75 million to get, which people are saying. 40-something million to just do it in another 30-something million to marketing. So, and what people are saying is that basically it was just a gift to Donald Trump. It was just Jeff Bezos being like, hey, we'll spend 75 on your movie. Do you know what the movie, which they're considering, they're choosing to consider a success as a documentary? Over its first weekend, it made $7 million. Now, they're saying that's pretty decent for a documentary. I'll tell you what, it still ain't getting you back to the 75 million.

million that you spent to put it out. Well, and it's not getting these people. But Jeff Bezos has plenty of money, right? That's why he shuddered. But that's why one third of the Washington Post. I was just about to say that. Just about to say that. You know how many people lost their jobs yesterday?

So you spent $70 million on this movie. Nobody's going to see the kiss up to the president. And then you just fired regular folks, you know, at the Washington Post. Was it only one third? It seemed like more than that. It was the whole sports department. Well, no, it's one third overall staff. including shuttering the entire sports desk.

Yeah. You know, just for selfish personal reasons. The sports desk of my childhood, my entire life. I mean talking about big names. Thomas Boswell, Mike Wilbon,

Sally Jenkins, Tony Cornheiser, one of the great sports pages of all time. Gone. Yeah, also the foreign desks. So all the international coverage, a lot of the reporters that are in the Middle East or wherever they're reporting from,

they just got an email and be like, yep, you're clipped. And they're just like... Have you ever heard of anything like this before where like a rich guy who makes money on the internet goes off and buys a big piece of media and then for some reason looks around and is like, I don't know how to make money with this media outlet.

Let me fire everyone and see if I start making money. Let me think. Never. Let me tell you. Why do they keep doing this? Why do they keep buying these media companies? Because they want action. Control. Control access, control the narrative, right? Remember, all of this is about everything you're seeing in the media and is about control, which is why so much has moved to where we've moved. You know, and many people started it first. And it's always, by the way, if we're being honest, it's always been about control. There's never been, there's been, quote, unquote, freedom of the press for sure. But remember, once the news became something that advertisers needed to,

advertise against to justify its existence, right? That's when it slid into more salaciousness and more entertainment value, because they wanted to sell advertising. I want you to know something about our American culture here in the United States. We don't tune into things just because we want information and knowledge. That's not what's John Blaze out here. I guess not. Right?

We don't just watch things because it's good to be informed and knowledgeable. It's just not. I just don't understand why. That pluck an emotional cord for us. But why can't the newspaper? I was having this discussion yesterday. I don't understand why there's a lot of free content available on the Internet. And these places, whether it be YouTube or whoever, have figured out how to make money,

even though the consumer doesn't want to pay. They figured out a way to make money. Why are these news outlets not able to figure out a way or is it that their owners don't want to figure out a way to have them more profitable? You know what I'm saying? Well, you would have to look into what is actually profitable on YouTube

and how much money they're spending to operate it. I don't know if they, if like YouTube is really, we're operating our own YouTube space, they just give us space, right? Like it doesn't require a person to actually run the Ebro Laura Rosen, but we're paying the person. Right. Not YouTube. You know what I'm saying?

So imagine if YouTube had to staff someone for every thing that got posted on you. Wow. It probably wouldn't be as financially successful. It's a DIY space. Right. Maybe there was a way to do that with media, though. But they're trying. They're trying to replace people with AI, bro.

That's what it is. I saw a couple of the notes. It was just like there's so many jobs now that can be replaced with AI. We don't need to pay these people. They truly believe that. Cool. Well, no. They don't have to believe it.

It's happening. It's already happening. Yeah. And by the way, all the DIY journalism is on Instagram or on YouTube. That's it. Yep. Now, Laura, this isn't this isn't AI. This is real life.

We have more on the man who spent a hefty dollar in the super chat to say, hey, Laura, now that we have you on Zoom again, can you hit us with the people's eyebrow periodically? L.O.L. Thank you. That one? Can you do it on command? I think it's like that. Oh, she did it?

She can't do it on command. Wait, when did that become a thing for Laura? I don't know. People always talk about it because this eyebrow kind of just goes up sometimes. It's not really that she's hitting the people's eyebrow. It just goes rogue and people see it. And then it pops them and they want. Well, who's this?

It happens. Superchat. You want to say their name? I did. More on the man. Oh, more on the man. Okay, I missed that part. Yeah.

I thought you were talking about Jeff Bezos. You were saying more on the man. No, no. I don't want to say anything more about that bastard. Not a Bezos guy. Well, listen, we do got to shout some super chatters. Do we have the list of super chatters there, Laura Stiles? Because I know yesterday we were all hitting the road.

We got to show up for everyone. I only see this one super chatter so far. Yeah, no, let me see. Well, some of the ones, I'm just going to shout out people who have been supporting us. East Village 5983. Let me see. Ingersmith 393. JW 4789.

Oh, man. Yo, Rick. Yo, Rick. So shout out to you guys. for always checking in with us. And so how Rod Rick. I see him in the chat too. How Rod Rick was going down.

I landed in San Francisco yesterday and, you know, had to immediately get to preparing for the press conference we have today with Bad Bunny to kick off, you know, the Super Bowl weekend at Apple Music Super Bowl 60 halftime show. And so I was, you know, at the hotel I'm at it's, you know, if you've ever been in San Francisco, you know there's a lot of hills. Well, the hotel I'm at happens to be up on a hill. and one of the streets looked straight down and in the distance you can see the

Golden Gate Bridge Oh nice That's nice It was a clear day so you could get a good Look anyway I posted a photo in my stories Hot Rod Rick was like yo How'd you get out there so fast Magic

The show He's speedy You know I got on the Super Jet smoking I was out of there. Yo, Ebro, tell us about how Gibroni city it is. Listen, I know you can't bury the Super Bowl. You know, Apple halftime shows.

What are you asking? Just the Super Bowl media week has gotten so crazy that now because of the web and how many content creators there are, it's just, oh my God. I mean, when I went, it was already bad. I don't know. You're saying the media room, like where everyone is? Yeah, like, did you go?

Did you do you spend any time at Radio Row? I haven't gone through there. I was going to go there today if I have time. Okay. It was once Radio Row. I walked behind it, but where the press conferences is, is separate. It's in a different section.

So I didn't get to walk through there. But people were telling me Stephen A. Smith, I was going to go find him and see if we got face to face. Oh, wow. Interesting. To be honest. What do you mean? Wait, I bro.

So are you going to, okay. Well, I was just going to say, I don't know because you're not going to back down. He's offended by the point you mean. I was just going to go over to him, hit my dancing music. I was going to roll up with the dancing music playing. You know what I'm saying? You think this is.

That's the wrong beat. I don't think this is a good idea. No, I don't think it's a good idea either. Hope you brought your dancing shoes. Well, look, you know, look, Bad Bunny's performing. we're going to be dancing. So Stephen A. So now we need to be dancing.

I have a lot of bad bunny thoughts, but I feel like we save them for tomorrow for the Friday show. What do you think? Bad bunny thoughts. And why do you got to save them? Well, I don't know because it's Super Bowl weekend and tomorrow's Friday.

I don't know. I just feel I am so annoyed with the conversation about bad bunny. Like here, let me, let me just, I'll sum it up like this. People, and this isn't just right wingers. But this is not just the people. We know that there are the racists who are straight up like,

I don't want to hear no damn ass man, yo! We know that crowd. But beyond that, you have a lot of people who aren't even that who are just like, I don't know Bad Bunny's music. It's not English. What we're not going to do is pretend like every year's Super Bowl halftime performer is inclusive to absolutely every fan. That's what we're not going to do.

Well, guess what? I mean, of course, but it's the Espanel that bothers people. But, right, but Rosenberg, there's people watching us right now who are accustomed to the world around them, not having them at the center of everything. The people you're talking about are accustomed to knowing everything that they see on the things that they love is tailored for them or they know something about it.

At least, even if that means just understanding the way. Especially at the Super Bowl. They are, or anything involving NFL. They're accustomed to being like, oh, yeah, Leonard Skinner or Aerosmith or, you know, or were they last year for Kendrick Lamar who did the most inside. Yo, this man, Kendrick was playing songs. They were upset last year, too. I didn't know. They were upset last year, too.

Not like this. This is different. That was because, that was because he's a black American. and he's a rapper and they know, oh, this is, this is some, they're accustomed to like, oh, okay, black people doing something I'm not quite familiar with, but, you know, I'm accustomed to giving that space. But Spanish? I've seen it before.

Another language? It really is the SPAL. They didn't like Kendra Gila. They just know they wouldn't be, they know black people ain't stepping down. You ain't scaring nobody. Matter of fact, we're going to get louder. Oh, you're uncomfortable? Let's take this up a notch.

They're not a, they're not a. custom, listen, they're not accustomed to my Hispanic brothers and sisters turning it up a notch on their headtop. And now it's turned. It's up and it's stuck, as they say. I just, the problem is I'm trying to have like a real conversation when I know it's really just based on fear, xenophobia, and racism. So I just try to respond to people by going, oh, really? You don't think you're going to, you're not like, you don't, it's totally cool. You don't know his music. I imagine if you are coming from the standpoint of I don't know the music well, will I enjoy this performance?

I think you'd be much more apt to enjoy this year than last year. Okay, fair enough, because it's an inside baseball rap show. It's Marenga. It's dancing. It's fun. It's up tempo. It's singing. You're going to have a good time. But everyone, we know that's not what it's about. Like the fact that this is a, quote, political issue just shows that the politics of the right is based in xenophobia and racism. Yes. And we know that. Because this isn't a political issue.

Yes. But it's also, even if you consider yourself on the left and you're somehow off put by bad bunny being there and you're not being familiar with his music and you're like, I've never heard of this person. It's not about you. It's not about you. But join the party.

Why don't you come learn something for a change? Why don't you just show up to something that maybe you're familiar with? and have a good time. How about that? Have you ever thought about that? Are you just accustomed to being the center of the conversation all the time? And that's the piece. A lot of white people and Americans are accustomed to knowing

to knowing every detail of everything, especially at the halftime Super Bowl. And this time you might not. But by the way, there's tons of people. Bad Bunny's albums number one in China. Right? Like it's one all over the world.

It's just they made this decision for a reason, guys. The 32 owners, who I wouldn't describe is progressive, all are okay with this happening. Why? Because more than any sort of political message, they care about the bottom line. The NFL wants to have games in frigging Nicaragua and China and Thailand. They play the NFL football game in Brazil, where nobody plays football the American way. They play it the international. way. They're doing this for a reason. And then also, we got to stop with the football fans.

I was arguing this with Don and Allen yesterday. Football fans got to stop acting like the Super Bowl is even a football game. Like, you have to accept that the championship Sunday, that was two weeks ago, is the last day of true football. Accept it. The Super Bowl is gone. It's a holiday. It's not even real. Wait, wait. I'm not a football watcher the way I used to be. But when I was, But when I was, I didn't even go to Super Bowl parties. I didn't like them. You know why? Too many casuals.

That's what it is, though. I didn't like, and I never liked, I never liked the halftime. It was too long. It was too many commercials. I don't care. I want to watch football. The fact that people are just now coming to the realization that the Super Bowl, unless your team's in it, is not really,

about quote unquote hardcore football fans is a button, hit the button. You should have been like, how are you just coming to this conclusion? Congratulations, you play as yourself. There's not even real football fans really at the damn game. Of course not.

No, people are like, the fact that they were able to get a ticket is enough for them. They don't care. No, it's a whole, it's. Yeah, it's like a status thing. Like, yes. I just, I have just accepted. that the Super Bowl is a silly fun thing to hang out with friends.

There's a reason I've watched the Super Bowl with Laura multiple times. Not exactly my first phone call for a hardcore sporting event. Exactly. Laura shows up in her pink random jersey. Did she wear like a... No, no jersey, not even have thought about sports. Here's the thing. If somehow my team were ever to make it back to the Super Bowl,

I would probably want to narrow that scope to a, you know, a room of people who would at least be on my side, and rooting for my team. But it's not, my team is never in it. So I don't even care. I just go to the party, eat the wings, have a good time. The fact there are people like, I need to take it serious. I don't care half the time.

Yo, bro, you have lost the plot. This is the Super Bowl. Soon it's going to, they're going to move it, guys. It's going to end up falling all the way on like President's Day. It'll literally be a holiday. It'll be Sunday night leading into President's Day Monday. Wait, so like two weeks from now? Well, next year.

it's falling on Valentine's Day. What? Why? Next year, it falls on February 14th. But why? That's just the way the calendar works between Labor Day. So they're not taking more time off between the championship games and the... No. Okay.

No. But if you do the math on it and you see how close it's getting and you know they're sitting at a 17 game schedule, and they're not going to keep it a weird. odd number. You know, at some point they're coming for that 18 game schedule. Then guess what that does? That pushes it to the following week. And we get President's Day Sunday, which by the way, I have to say, I'm not mad at that part. I do like the idea because it is often a night that people are trying to take a dump on the NBA's

All-Star game. They are doing everything to crush the NBA and their little All-Star game, which, by the way, the NBA All-Star Weekends struggling anyway. No, the NBA does their best themselves. Let's be honest. They've done their best themselves. They've killed the dunk contest. The whole East West, this team, this guy's a captain, that guy's a captain, all these different iterations of the actual game. Nobody plays defense.

It's basically the Harle of Globetrotters versus Washington generals. It's terrible. It's terrible. I saw the list for the celebrity game this year. And I say that recognizing that obviously the celebrity games had some down years because I played in the game. But when you look at it. this guys who give us some names what do you mean

give us a name first define celebrity before you do anything we have to agree on the terms and conditions of do you mean the actual definition in in not in the dictionary what were you using today to define so I'm who is it who is it I want to know I'm gonna just throw some names

at you okay I'm curious Jenna Brandy never heard of the person Who's that? All right, Ebro, they're including in the game. And this is an order. I'm just reading the names in order. ESPN NBA insider Shams Sharania is in the game.

Well, he's a sports celebrity. I'll give him that, right? Sure. It's just weird because he, like, covers the league. It's not what I would think of you put in the game. But he's definitely, you know, well-known. Okay. Shams is out here.

Plus he got great hair. Great hair. All right. Who else? Former Celtic and very, very tall. Taco Fall, so he's a former player. Rome Flynn. Wait, whoa, whoa, wait.

What, whoa, what, time about. Taco is in the celebrity game. Correct. So is Jeremy Lynn. That kind of makes sense, but Taco's young, right? Is he out of the league now? I guess Taco's out of the league. Wow.

Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn's there. You know who he is, but he's a player doesn't quite count. Rome Flynn. Anyone? Nope. We're covering the NBA All-Star Celebrity game lineup. Rick Schnell.

Anyone know Rick Schnaul? Not familiar? I think he's in an ownership group for a team. Matter of fact, if you know these people in the chat, hit like on this video if you know anyone in the chat because we need you guys to hit likes anyway. Everyone's like, what the hell? Dylan Wang. Anyone know Dylan Wang?

No. Dylan Wang. Not right. And by the way, maybe I... Chinese actor and singer. Okay. That's what it says. Here's one.

We got a celebrity folks. Here we go. Keegan Michael Key. I know Keegan. Key. Okay. There we go. Let's see.

Amon Raw St. Brown from the NFL. Amin Ra. Kafu, which I'm guessing is the former Brazilian soccer great, Kafu. And then Glorilla rounds out that.

Glorilla. Glorilla. Speaking of Glorilla, speaking of Glorilla, you got this family news story in your rundown, Laura Stiles today? You got this to...

I don't... Yes. Her rent being paid and... It's so messy. Yeah, we could definitely talk about it because it's annoying. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you listen to the...

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where we give you additional content every week. What was the response to our Patreon this week? How'd we do? I haven't been I'm gonna I haven't been home bro my life these days I don't it's there's nothing going on but the rent I haven't looked yet okay see what the people said to see if the people were going I'm gonna I'm gonna take a look but shout out to everyone who has jumped on board there it is ELR Unleashed versus recap Michael Jackson

and how Ebro helped Eve get a Grammy. That's the name of the episode that we did. An in-studio hour and 14-minute vehicle that we dropped yesterday. 78 comments here. That's pretty good. No, no, what's happening? Right. 78 comments?

Yeah, I'm here. What happened? Was that you? Yeah, what happened? Strange sound has occurred. Uh-oh. This is what happens. This is what happens when we're not in our illustrious news too.

right right right right well and your god knows where yeah i'm i'm on the road you bro mute your mic see if that's you all right it probably is oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was you i don't know what that was well well he's on location so he's on remote he's trying he's trying do you want me to kick yeah oh that's it's really bad can you like reconnect what about now fine what were you doing what happened i was trying to increase my volume because They were telling me I was low, and then they were telling you your mic volume is too loud all of a sudden. Oh, really something changed? Well, I can bring mine down, but you sound fine in my ear.

You sound the exact same. Yeah, you sound great. All right. Laura, you want this rundown intro? Yeah, let's go. Laura got the rundown, turn that up. Screen's on glow when she pulled up. Headlines heavy, but we still cut up.

Life still flashing. We don't slow up. All right. So I'm just going to give you guys a recap. quick one with the whole Glorilla story. So Glorilla's sister alleges that she doesn't support her family. Okay.

She just went on social media saying she's going to expose your favorite rapper. You know, we have the same mom, same dad, 10 siblings. She is not who you think she is, you know. And then people just started getting petty. People started, I think it was one of Glorillis' backup dancers was defending her saying like, yeah, she does help you guys, but you guys are ungrateful.

It's one of those. Apparently, Glorilla at one point gave her dad a car, like a Jaguar. And then the sister was complaining that it didn't have any gas in it. And that their mom still works at FedEx and she needs rent money. So blah, blah, blah. It's everyone's just airing family business. But at the very end, Glorilla posted a screenshot of a text message from family saying, basically thanking her for everything she does for them.

So. So, you know, listen, the talk is, are you, are you obligated to help your family? That's not the combo. I'm sorry, guys. Once I hear 10 siblings, a couple are bound to go rogue. When somebody's doing as well as Glorilla and you got 10 siblings, there's a breakdown in communication for sure. And siblings just go rogue. So that's the conversation.

Do you have a gang of people in your family and there's one or two of, them that are a problem. Absolutely. Because the sister's like, yo, don't you have Glow Relo's phone number? Maybe you're the one she doesn't speak to. Why are you going to the internet? Why are you starting this? Evidence suggests if you're jumping out on the internet to talk about your sibling,

that maybe this relationship has other issues. Maybe. Can I just say that? I mean, it's possible. And is it possible? Maybe. Is it possible? that mom still likes her job.

You know older people still like to work sometimes. They like having their own life. Yeah, that could be it too. That could be it. Now, we don't know. I'm guessing it could be all problematic and Glorilla could be the problem. Who knows?

But I'm just saying, I've seen this story before where the sibling is trying to get out on the internet and tell family business. And it's usually the sibling. That's the problem. I think it's very hard for any of us to really appreciate what it must be like to be like that level

of famous and rich in your family, particularly if you come from absolutely nothing, it must get so crazy and hard to manage. Absolutely. And everybody's expecting you to take care of them or take care of things. You know what I mean? I want to tell everybody you got to be more like me.

My cousin, my aunt hit me day before yesterday telling me to call my cousin. My cousin has been a crackhead and an addict for a, good 20 joints. Not calling, bro. Sorry. I ain't taught. I haven't talked to you since I was

nine. Oh, God. Nine? No, I did. Crazy, bro. I'm lying. I did talk to you. I did talk to this cousin. And I sent someone to bring them some money where they live.

And it sent a report on like how they're living because I couldn't get there and they needed some money. but I haven't seen them but I did talk to them sent them some money and they said where they were living was not good things were not good and uh

I gave him some money and then I never heard from them until right now I can Ebro do you want me to predict what they want to hear from you about money that would be my guess but guess what the reason I'm telling y'all you know this is like my well it's like a second cousin my grandmother's

sister's daughter so it's like a second cousin like a second cousin. But still. My first cousin I talked to all the time. My dad's brother's son. Kids. Talk to all the time.

Matter of fact, I text with him because he talks to them and I text him and said, why is your mom telling me to reach out to her? She's a drug out. Not doing it. Let me know. Y'all let me know what's going on.

So basically I'm saying all this to say, y'all got to be more like me. Just because you family, I don't give a damn, bro. If you're moving funny, you get cut off too. I respect it. I just want to know how Ebro went to California and somehow left his sniffles and congestion with Laura. Oh, no, sorry.

Sorry, I am. I am. I didn't tell you. I have a sinus issue. He knows now? It's really bad. It's so bad. No, we're listening.

Oh, I'm struggling. I'm sorry. I'm struggling, guys. I'm struggling. All right, keep powering through. Yes, yes, yes. All right. So Floyd Mayweather is suing Showtime.

And Showtime. You said Floyd Mayweather? Yep. Go ahead. Congratulations. You play as yourself. He's suing Showtime. And former Showtime sports president, Stephen Espinoza,

claiming that they helped his longtime advisor, Al Heyman, misappropriate more than $340 million of his boxing earnings. According to the lawsuit, he claims that money from his major, fights, you know, the Manny Packie out, Connor McGregor, was sent to accounts controlled by Hayman instead directly to him years later. He's like when he switched to managers and requested

Showtime's financial records that they were just like, sorry they were lost in a flood. We don't have them. So now he's suing Showtime right now for... Seems like a lot of money to him have not gotten considering how much money he already had. That's a crazy... $340 million, bro.

He had $340 million more on top of the like billion. he had? Yeah, that's crazy. Yo, Floyd, when you really think about the level of money, Floyd, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's Floyd. He's coming for all this paper. He's got his new real estate ventures in New York City. He's got, oh, man, he's got friends. Yeah, you got friends out here. Floyd, when you think about a guy, when, when, when you compare the amount of entertainment

to the amount of money he made, and I know he's going to get something. people really angry because Floyd has his people who get defensive about him. Yo, he ripped off the whole world on a level we've never seen. What do you mean ripped off? Considering how few amazing fights he actually took in his prime that actually would have entertained us versus the amount of money he made. So that's the one thing I don't mind. What, that he ripped us off for $50 many times to watch him fight Jablumis? I didn't mind.

That doesn't, his behavior and how he manages money and who he is bothers me more than how he finessed the boxing world. The person. I get that. It's the sports fan of me who just was like, the man always waited. He always waited for the over-the-hill matchup. We never got the prime. Well, you know, but the reason I say this with Floyd is because when he was, when he was out here really putting in work, when he was just coming off the Olympics and all that,

was really out here putting in work, they didn't want to give him the big fight. So he had to, he became a heel. Remember that Cinco de Mayo where he came out with sombrero and became. Oh, that's right. You know, look, and got a lot of attention because of it. He became that. And then he was like, you know what? If I got to be, if I'm the bad guy, I'm going to just lean all the way in.

I think what ended up happening is, I don't know what happens to your brain when you become the bad guy. It just kind of all, it just took over his whole person. You've probably seen this in wrestling where a wrestler becomes a heel. And then all of a sudden in real life becomes that same. person you're like bro weren't you just acting wasn't that all just I've never seen that but I'm sure it's possible but that's why I like wrestling because they're mostly sane you know what I mean they're not actually getting their brains beaten in for a living that's the difference that's a big difference especially in the modern era pretend

wait hold on I could pretend to get my brains beaten or I could really get my brains beaten or I could really get my brains beat that distinction tells a lot there's a lot there All right. So in other news, you know, we talked about this, but yeah, the Washington Post announced layoffs about one third of the entire workforce, approximately 300 employees across both newsroom and business operations. So the cuts have, you know, the key impacts are the sports. The books department, foreign desks. So that's all the international coverage. All of it is being scaled back, local and metro coverage of D.C. Yeah. And the. the popular Post Reports podcast, so all the audio. They were like, yep, all of you guys, goodbye. We need to save some money. But no, no, no, no, no.

We need to justify the 70 plus million that the owner just put towards the Malonia film. It probably all came out of one line item on his like expenditure, where he was like, this is all the media money. So if we're going to do, if I'm going to do some media, create a documentary for 70 million, we've got to pull this money from somewhere else. That's why these people are. rich. They don't spend their money.

It all comes from the same bucket. They're not going to, he's not going to move money over from one successful venture into a, into a dying venture. It's not going to happen. No, no. You pretend you don't have the money and you let the other thing die. You know, the craziest thing is, I don't know if you guys know this, but for the Washington Post for many, many years, the little quote that they have under their, under the Washington Post is. Like their slogan. Their slogan. Thank you.

The slogan for the Washington Post is democracy dies in darkness. And in this case, they got it wrong. Democracy is dying just in light. It's just outside dying. Right. Broad daylight. Right. We're watching.

We're watching you do it. Lights camera action. All right. Let's go to, you know, we have something for the lowdown. Let's go, Rosenberg. One of my favorite little pieces of the program. Not because of the content. I like the intro of the hot rod Rick Gables.

Hold on to your speakers. The time for the lowdown with Laura Stein. All right. Well, let's get this video ready, man, because with all this Epstein talk, you know, Melinda Gates had an interview with NPR and she responds to all the craziness, all the headlines that have been, you know, out in the open.

Now, remember, the big one was that her ex-husband, Bill Gates, tried to secretly give her drugs to treat an unknown STD. That's what they were saying, in the emails. Yes, that was in the email. So this is a video of her basically, you know, responding to all this. I have to acknowledge the elephant in the room at this moment. Your ex-husband, Bill, is named in the newest tranche of Epstein files. And there are a new alleged details about his past behavior.

And I want to give you the opportunity to respond in whatever way you want to. Well, let me say this. I think we're having a reckoning as a society, right? No girl, no girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever was going on with all of the various people around him. No, girl. I mean, it's just, it's beyond heartbreaking, right? I remember being those ages, those girls were. I remember my daughter's being those ages, right? So, for me, it's personally hard whenever those details come up, right? Because brings back memories of some very, very painful

times in my marriage, but I have moved on from that. So whatever questions remain there of what I can't even begin to know all of it. Those questions are for those people and for even my ex-husband. They need to answer to those things, not me. And I am so happy to be away from all the muck that it was there. I have to put more words to the muck for context for our listeners. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior, but I wonder

what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details. Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my God, how did they, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it's just sadness, sadness for, you know, I've left, I had to, I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. And so it's just sad. That's the truth, right? And in California's in D.C. imaginable, I think. But the piece here is, remember, he was emailing about what he wanted to do, not something he actually did she divorced him clearly knowing there was some you know muck there was muck

right mark so nothing was never infected or affected he was he was he was he was he was planning i mean she was affected by his behavior but not affected by that whatever he was doing in that email that would have warranted him saying hey i'm going to slide my wife some antibiotics because i got an STD how do i go about doing that that's what they're bringing her into. So I kind of in a way feel bad for her because she's already distanced herself from the whole situation.

Right. And now she's being brought into it as if she's the one that wrote the email. That was him. So what do you want? And I do, yo, shout out to her because she, even though this has to be traumatic for her, but she still

make sure that she puts her pain aside and acknowledges the victims. Acknowledges these young girls because they were young girls. And also it's important too, Laura, because remember, while she's very sad about how her marriage worked out, she wasn't trafficked. She wasn't sexually, I mean, from what we know, she wasn't sexually abused, right? She wasn't raped. She wasn't, you know what I mean?

So, yeah, of course. Basically, she's saying what happened to me is terrible, and I'm very sad. But what was actually going on is. Right. is beyond the pale. And people got an answer to it. Even her ex-husband, everyone. And of course, Bill's team denies it.

He's saying that it's false. What's false? Are you saying the email is not real? What are you saying? That's not a real email. That's not your email address. It's made up. What do you say?

I need to know what people are saying when you say it's false. That they were trying to extort him. Who was? Well, they were. That's what Epstein did. That's what the whole thing was. Was Epstein trying to get information on people?

But it doesn't mean you weren't doing the communication. Right. Right. No, the whole Epstein thing is extortion. The whole thing. There are people in there who aren't getting any noise about them because the emails that have been found on them, it's him fishing and them denying. Right.

I was just going to say, I was just going to say, you know how you don't get blackmailed? If you ain't doing creepy-ish. Don't get involved in the- the first place. No, no, no, don't be a creep. Don't be a creep, bro. How about that? The commander's owner, I believe, was in there, and he was trying to rendezvous,

and it's just his person trying to find time. And you can tell the person's like, no, well, sorry, unavailable. Like, that's all they're getting. It's unavailable. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. That was a low down there, Laura Stow. It was great pull.

Yeah, messy. I want to shout out to handball access. 914 in the super chat. All right. Who would like us to cover more handball? Handball. That's right. He wants us to talk about that sport more and give more light to that sport.

Now, speaking of sports and things I want to give light to, Rasson, do you have the sport clip that I sent over that I would love to. Sport clip? It's a sporting event. I was not aware it was a sport. Oh. Oh, I know where you go. And I wanted to share it with everyone right now.

Are you aware that this was a sport? Rassan, do you have the clip? Let's see. Let's see if he has it. I don't want to give it away by telling him what it is, but it's the only sports clip that we sent over, Rassan. Sports is maybe it's confusing because sports is a competition. You got to be an athlete. There's some sort of thing happening with physical contact.

That is a fact. I have to acknowledge the elephant in the room at this moment. ex-husband, Bill is named in the newest trunch of Epstein. Why? Because you want him to run more Melinda Gates and I get to the... I think we're having a reckoning as a society, right?

No girl. I have to acknowledge... What a back again? Reward Selecta. No, man, come on. Reson, what's the problem, though? I love this. Wait, no more is gone.

This is amazing. No. Look, he's struggling. That's happening. No, I did it. I think we're having a... Yo, it's crazy. I'm better than I thought.

Oh, my God, Satan. Stop. Stop meddling. So we, what, we... It's not working. The equipment's broken. We just got to wrap the show, Roshan.

What's happening? No. Who's Rassan? I said Rassan. I might change you to Rishan. No, when he's bad, he's Rishol. No, that is hilarious. And now there's just like no communication.

Now there's just no communication. Well, there's obviously something going to. So tell us. Are we going to do it or are we not? We're just stalling. It's been 60 seconds. I think he's trying. I think he's trying, you bro.

I do have something I have to do in the meantime while this messiness gets cleaned up. Okay. Okay. Up. Wait, she was really hyped. Yo. Yellow. Oh, Ebro, why did you share that?

Because you don't find that amazing? And by amazing, crazy? Amazing. I'm going to tell you, there was two things. Your face. Her face, how intense she was. How she celebrated after, like, she's been working for this championship or whatever that was her entire life. She celebrated.

How did she prep for that? She, I don't know how they exercise. Toe push-ups. That literally looks like it would be a thing that like a couple's laying around in bed on a Sunday doing nothing and they start pushing each other. And then you start playing them like, yo, we should make this a sport. No, you shouldn't. What are you doing? Listen, there's a part of me that thinks some slap.

There's a part of me that thinks some creep came, some creep with a foot fetish came up with this competition in the first place. Facts. But I'm going to tell you another thing that amazed me about this thing. And then we'll get to the gurus. They had sponsors. Oh, it's, it's well produced. No, that's crazy. No, they had a, an event.

Yes. We don't have sponsors. They have sponsors. Toe wrestling is hot right now. And it was sponsored by that company that makes the souls on boots. Vibram. Vibram, how you say it? Oh, really?

That's what? Run the clip again. That's smart. No, no, no, it's okay. No, we don't need to see the toe wrestling again. I got to see it. I got to see a woman. Look at this Popsin.

You got better. You got better. That is... I need to see the crowd. I need to see the crowd. I need more info. I need more info. You were really effective.

by this, huh? Did you know this was happening in the world? No, and I don't think anyone does. It's pretty hilarious. I need to know, do they have weight classes? Like, is it based on, like, foot size? Like, do they have, like, a flat foot division versus, like, high arches?

You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to know. Like, because if I have a size five shoe, you can't be toe wrestling with somebody with an 11? You can't do that? You got to have. No, no, no. They have to be in a certain class.

Of the world toe wrestling contest. It's a sport. There's a Wikipedia page. There's a website, the toe wrestling championship. Wow. There's lots of gross pictures of people's toenails that are making me want to puke. Why did I do that? I mean, they're toe wrestling.

That is repulsive. A couple of more things from a super chat before we get to the gurus guys. Okay. If it's all right with you. I want to correct myself that it's not more on the man. It's Moreno the Man. Aw, Marino. Who has spent multiple times to talk about Laura's eyebrow.

Thank you, Marino. Thank you. Ebony, Unique. Love you, fam. So you said that she loves the platform. Parlay Hunter, who hit us up about our guru the other day. Junie Santiago reached out as well. Laura mentioned East Village, 5983.

But yeah, shout out to Eighty-old. everyone who's hitting us on the super chat. And also, Ebro, Shabuzi, back down, man. Back down. What do you mean he backed down? He put it back down. He put out a statement. Oh, yeah. He put out a cleanup statement. Yeah, he should have.

People were offended. I know he was going to do. I know he was going to do it. People were offended. I guess. Yo, it's, people are. It's effing insane, bro. That is insane. People were offended that he said.

Immigrants built this country is not offensive. He was talking about immigrants. That doesn't mean he has to mention everyone else who's built the country. Why do we beat people up when they're trying to do the right thing? What is wrong with us? No, but who's we? The people on our side, because that is our side. That is a left-eating left.

This is what people say about it. You don't think so? No, no, no, no, no. I don't know if you're tapped into the, you know, foundational black American, you know, African descendants of slavery movement. So you're not necessarily left or right. There was definitely people, black folks, who saw a black man up there, and who had a country hat on, and it was like, yo, bro, what are you talking about?

But F those people. I don't think you want to do that. If you're anyone, when you get up there in a moment where you're trying to fight for the people who are under attack, this is back to Black Lives Matter. That's some All Lives Matter bullish. He was up there because that house is on fire right now. So he's trying to put water on that house that's on fire, and they're going all lives matter.

That's a different version of all lives matter. I don't agree with that. I don't really see it like that. Okay. I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you at all. You think he needs to apologize by people who are waiting on him because he's wearing a cowboy hand.

No, no. No, what I read was someone who misspoke and went up there and clarified, and he didn't. How is it miss speaking? How is it miss speaking? Because immigrants didn't build the country. They built some things. And they currently, they currently help build the economy.

You don't have a country without the slave labor that they actually got for free that built the entire economy. And that's very sensitive to people. So for people who were abused and continually erased to be like, wait, wait, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up. I know everybody's sensitive right now. But let's not just gloss over this thing that people love. to historically gloss over and act like doesn't exist, let's not do that. I can't just say they shouldn't be sensitive.

You not, I'm not going to do that. Because that's really, guess who's always, A, it's Black History Month. B, B, B. No, no, well, nothing. Like, what are you saying?

That doesn't change what the message is. It does, it does because you're talking about the group that is always shit on, bro. It's the group that's always on this on, that people are like, yo, stop. But he wasn't doing that. Not on purpose, he wasn't. On purpose, he wasn't.

But for someone to be held accountable on social media, it's not like people ask for him to be, like, removed from society. Listen, I wanted it to be clear. You're yelling, you're yelling and I'm a white guy, so I'm not going to. I tried to say to you, no, I don't think so. I get it. I disagree, though. I disagree.

But you're wrong. You're wrong. No, it's not. Yes, it is. It's Twitter terrorism, bro. It's Twitter terrorism. No, it's not just Twitter. We will catch you and we will beat you down.

No, it's not. Sometimes people just want him to clarify a statement. He clarified it, it went away. It's gone now. That was it. You're right. And that, okay. It's cool that he clarified it, I guess.

But in the moment, when you say, you're trying to have a moment to say that immigrants are part of building this country and you leave out one word, you need to then be destroyed for it. He doesn't appreciate the contributions of enslaved Americans. Because he didn't say part. He didn't get destroyed. No. It went on for two days. Laura, did I miss that he wasn't getting it from everywhere? I mean, no, he got plenty of backlash.

You got it. You got back. I've got backlash. You clarify, it goes away. It's not that big a deal. People do the outrage thing in text. It wasn't like people docks this house like they did to Billy Ilish where a British journalist went to Billy Isish's home

and demanded her to come out and like answer to what the thing she said about stolen land. Nobody did that to him. And you know that they're now, Ted Cruz is now like running with the stolen land conversation on Capitol Hill. They're coming for Billy Elish. So I guess right. It could have been worse. There's levels.

It could have been worse. But, but, and oh, by the way, the land is stolen. Well, of course it is.

And hold on. And by the way, just because she's saying, you can't, just because she's saying that we live on stolen land doesn't mean that she didn't buy property and live in it. The land was already stolen. She's not saying that it should all be giving it back.

To my point, to my point, there's levels. He didn't get destroyed, right? Yeah, but to my point, it's all intentionally going after people who are on the right side. But it's also, remember, you have groups of people who are continually trashed and shit on. They have a right to be sensitive. They don't, they don't get seen. The issues don't get heard. And oh, by the way, we're living in a time

where the federal government is taking the achievements of black Americans out of history books, out of museums, closing museums. The focus should be on going after them, not Shaboozy. It's a waste of time and energy. No, no, no, it's not a waste of time because now we're having a great conversation. Now people are actually having the convo. Well, we are.

Because that's what we do. And when you have a platform and you make a mistake, and when you're a celebrity, I don't mind people coming for you and, making you be like, yo, let me clean that up. I screwed that up. I hurt some people. I'm a big, rich celebrity. I'm on television, and I didn't handle

something right. Not my intent. Right? We got to stop. We got to stop acting like. No, no, I'm Captain. Stop. I'm Captain Apology. There you go. Listen, after this segment, you're going to want to apologize tomorrow because they're about to cook. Should I plan it for tomorrow? Plan it for tomorrow.

Plan it for tomorrow show because they're about to cook. Oh, God. How do we get here? We need to get to the gurus. Let's do it. All right. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com.

Burn the sage, Ebro. All right. Let's go, P. Wait, when you say burn the sage, you got to give me like a beat to Zen, Zen, Zen, Zen. Like, isn't, wasn't, I mean, before I was invited into this guru thing, there was like space for Shani to go. Well.

A zen, a zen. Now I just get rushed past. You know what? Shaboo. I'm coming for you. Why you keep glossing over my moment and my contribution? There we go. There we go.

All right. Zen. Zen. Zen. The original gurus at gmail. The original gurus at gmail.com. Your destination for clarity. Here we go.

Some words of encouragement are needed. Howdy gurus I'm a 33-year-old gay first-generation Mexican-American from Texas. Okay, you got, man, you got the odds are stacked. It's a lot of things going on.

33-year-old gay, first-generation Mexican-American. It was really the Mexican-American in Texas part that was like, okay, what you got going on, my guy? You need our help. Really? I would say the gay and Mexican and in America, all of it together. The whole thing.

Combinesh. Okay. Go ahead, P. I spent 10 years as a manager of people at Big Box Retail store. Okay. I decided I didn't want to do the dance anymore. So I quit in 2024. My idea was to start my own business.

But I didn't have a plan before I quit. Oh, hit the button. If you're out here on a dance floor, you got to be able to. Congratulations. You played yourself. You got a plan your next, you know, move before you get off the dance floor, man. Come on. All right.

So what now? I'm beyond lost. I gave up my career. Was ejected from a four-year relationship. I'm unmotivated as my trust in the world dwindles by the day. I discovered copyrighting as a career along the way, but haven't had the guts to pitch my services because I feel like an imposter. Especially because I'm the son of immigrants that never went to school. I'm in need of work.

of encouragement because I admire y'all. Much love and thank you for all you do. Baby O the show. Baby O. Oh, baby O. Let's start the encourage. I want this again. Congratulations.

You plagued yourself. With love, baby O. Go get a job. Okay. Go get a job that allows you to have some income and then work on the other thing on the side. You know what I'm saying? That's right. We all did it.

Go ahead. get a go ahead and go back to school if you need to whatever this next career path that you're looking at go ahead and you know maybe get an internship uh an apprenticeship whatever you can get to meet people show up if there if there's an annual gathering of what is he trying to be copyright he said he's into copywriting potentially is that like what is what is that like for TV writing copy for commercials uh that's what I would imagine yeah okay

If there's an annual gathering of people who do this, go to it, visit. But in the meantime, you're going to need a job. And being a first generation immigrant is not something that you should be worried about. Laura's first generation. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I don't know, Laura, did your parents go to school? Like, were they big, highly, you know, higher education, college, university, professors?

My mom did. Yeah, my mom was a teacher. but just that she graduated from college and she became a teacher. My dad, nope, my dad was fixing cars. So, you know, I don't think you should be, you're making up reasons

to feel insecure about who you are. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people who are first generation and maybe you go educate yourself so you don't have to worry about your parents. It's not about your parents' education, it's about you.

Yeah, man, I think you need to believe a little bit more in yourself. You got this and you know what you want. But you need to, need a job to pay the bills to keep you fed. You might consider leaving Texas. Maybe that's also dampening your, you know, spirit a little bit. But before he does that, he probably should like work a little bit and save some money.

So when he moves, he's prepared. You need to have some money in the stash. And maybe you could just like get a job at a place where copywriting is a thing that exists there, but you just get a job doing whatever you could do there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One day you could find your way to that. But your job might initially be taking out the trash

or doing whatever it is to just get you in the door and give you some income. There you go. Yeah. And people appreciate also if you tell me, I want to learn. I want to do this. This is why I'm here. They're like, oh, you're taking out the trash?

You want to move up? All right. Somebody will be like, this is dope. I believe in you. Let's work on this on the side. But we all agree, though, get a job to pay your bills. Because no matter what you want to do, you're going to need some money in the stash.

So hope that helps. sending you a lot of love, the gurus. Harp? Or close? And close. There we go. And close. There was someone who, well, how long ago did that some person say that the drops,

the management of drops needs to go back to Rosenberg? Was that from yesterday's show? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where, which show is from. Yesterday the day before I saw the comments Well, there you got You know you guys go You have evidence now

Rosenberg on the drops Today My board is Man Still struggling Get you an iPad man I gave you the iPad Connect right

Or the What's the app again? Sound board Sound board You said I don't want to And then you said it I already You already ruined it

You already ruined it Guys I want to apologize For my statements earlier About Shibuzi I think he absolutely We should have apologized. Can you roll my apology into his? Yo, Shabuzi, do a PS.

Listen, I get where people are frustrated because it's like, it's bedlam. I get your point, too. It's bad. I think when it's bedlam, I'm accustomed to when it's chaotic and everyone's emotional, everyone's emotional. I just, you know what I should. I wish it was an interview.

I wish you just did an interview and had a conversation about it. I don't know that someone whose intention is clearly right required the statement as if he harmed. He could have a conversation. But you're assuming that A, he wants to continue this and give audio and video, more audio and video to it. And B, that like he's super well versed in it. He was trying to do a nice thing and take a stand.

As somebody, as a black man, who gets played, his name gets played with, And he's a child of immigrants. And he's a child of immigrants. Yes. He says it. That's right. Yeah. And so he's close to that.

But it's complicated for him because he's also a black man. Right. And so that also is a, it's a new space to be in. And people make mistakes. And that's okay. And I think apologizing is good. You know what I'm saying? But if you're going to be on, listen, if you want to be on a public platform,

get prepared for people to launch. outrage in your direction without giving you grace because they assume because you have a platform, you're not supposed to make mistakes. Right. And get prepared to be comfortable apologizing. That's it. It's okay. We're all human.

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