The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 44.) An Hour and a Half of Ebro, Laura, & Rosenberg (2/26/26)

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are joined by NYC Public Advocate Jumaane Williams, Jumaane discusses his Tourette's and Mamdani's first few months, then the team discusses Klay Thompson and Megan Thee Stallion, Miley Cyrus Vs. Bruno Mar and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro-Lora Rosenberg Show. Let's get it. Yeah. Ebro-Lara Rosenberg Show. Yeah. Oh, yeah, baby. Got some things lined up today, including Rosenberg announcing he's got a new podcast endeavor.

My favorite thing about this podcast, he doesn't know where he's actually making it yet. Well, no, that's good. No, how you're making. Yeah, you're, and you have a trailer already. Oh, the trailer, I worked on the trailer for a year and a half. So we'll see the trailer today. Yeah, because I feel once we show the people the trailer, now I got to, now we got to go. You know what I'm putting pressure on myself?

Are you ready to go? Like, what do you need them to do? We'll talk about it. All right. All things to think about. All things to think about. Because I want to make sure when we show the trailer, then we ask them to do an action. Right.

That second action, other than wait, there's more info. I need more. No, no, we'll have something for some action for them. All right. But I will say I need to get my issue together because I won't lie. The trailer's kind of hard. So afterward, people back home. So you're really just excited about the trailer.

Yeah, exactly. And I showed it the other night on the State of the Union live stream. So you already showed it. To just the people who were there at the State of the Union live stream. Now, how many people tuned in? Laura, did you jump on the State of the Union live stream with Rosenberg? I did not. I did not.

I heard that he was relaxed, sipping on something and enjoying his time with our ELR Army. I did. I was hanging out with the EL Army. I drank a little gentleman's jack, had a couple sips, had some water. But that's what you have to do when you're watching Trump Live, right? Might as well make it a party. I might as well have a drink to get through this. And then at the end, when we couldn't handle watching this buffoon do anymore,

I said, let me show you all my trailer for my show. And we talked about that instead. So, all things to get to on a Thursday. Also, we're going to talk about this Miley Cyrus Bruno Mars lawsuit. We're going to compare the hooks of the songs to see if there's something there. And I also wanted to get into the amount of people being arrested

in Europe and compare it to the amount of people not being arrested in the United States. With regard to the FAC files. But first, welcome to the program. I wish, do we have applause? I have a flex bomb. Okay. Jamani Williams, let's go. Jamani, Jamani's on the show. It's the public advocate to you

and me. Jamani, what's popping, sir? Everything. I'm individually well in an increasingly crazy world. What about yourself? said. I love that. Well, the reason I reached out to you started with the Tourette's gate, what I'm calling Tourette's gate this week,

with the man at the Bafters shouting, you know, racial epitets at Delroy Lindo and Michael B. Jordan as they accepted an award. You, sir, have been a friend of our show for many years and have discussed your

Tourette's openly for a long time and you even posted a video articulating your Tourette's, how you learned about Tourette's, and what could have been done better here. And I wanted to invite you on to delve a little bit more into that combo. But just give a brief recap on what you shared with people about your Tourette's and what you thought could have been done better at the Bafters. Now, I appreciate you.

This is an important conversation. There's a lot of anger or frustration. I just want to make sure that we put the anger, which is correct, and the empathy in the right spaces. When I was elected, I was known to be the first elected official in the country, actually, with Tourette's syndrome. I also have corporalia, which is the shouting of socially unacceptable words. I actually augment a lot of my ticks so that some of that does not disturb folks too much, but I'm always careful because, one, not everybody can do that. And so I don't want folks to think that everybody can.

And two, there is a cost to that. There's a cost to suppressing your ticks. there's a cost to trying to augment it that's harmful, could be harmful to the person who's ticking. So what I want folks to understand is that the word alone doesn't denote whether someone is racist or not racist, and so it's hard to understand,

but Tourette's is intrusive. And so you have intrusive thoughts, you have choosive body movements, you have intrusive vocal tics, that, you know, obviously you can have some questions why that word is there, and, you know, someone should answer it. But all that stuff is in our subconscious.

And with Tourette's, you don't have the, you know, the block date to it as, as you'd want to. And so I want to folks to understand that, you know, even someone like me who has the N word as a tick, that is a real thing. What people should be focused on anger is that that empathy and care has to go both ways. And I think there was no care given to Michael B. Jordan, there were Lindo, other black people and folks who didn't want to hear that. There was a bunch of things that could have been done that included simply not re-eering. that part. They could have censored that part. They censored free Palestine. They censored other ticks that that gentleman gave, including the F word. Why they would not censor that, that's where I think a lot of the anger should be, as well as there should have been much more information given to

people before and after, including those two actors. So not only they can understand what's going on, they could explain themselves to the audience. So there was a lot of failures there. And I would blame Bafter and BBC in particular. So we're all in lockstep with you, that the BBC either was intentionally playing with people or wanting to hurt people, just didn't view the N-word as a serious offense, which is absolutely insane. But as someone Jumani, who's admired you for a long time

and interviewed you a bunch, and I've seen your physical tics before when we've had conversations, I've never heard you auditorily say anything in that sort of tick. Can you take us just a little bit through your journey and what those ticks were like? And then you talked about the cost

how working on them can create a cost for people. I'm curious about that. So interestingly, before I was diagnosed, my mother saw a 2020 special, and she said, I think this is what you have. And I told her, no, I don't. Of course, she turned out to be right. But at that moment, it was interesting. There was a white gentleman, an older gentleman, well, older then, it's probably my age now.

But his tick was actually the N-word. And I remember hearing him talking about it, and he augmented it. And so he would go nickels, pennies and dimes to try to not say that word. But the best way I can describe a tick is like an itch you have to scratch or a sneeze, it's going to come out. So he would say nickels, pennies, and dimes, to try to get the auditory tick out without the word that's socially unacceptable, rightfully. So after I got diagnosed, I actually used that.

And so one of my first loudest auditory tics, I had other ones, but was A-hole. I don't know if I could say here. But so people would hear me say, ah, and I would say the rest really, really quietly. As I grew older, my tics mostly went from what was predominantly auditory to what you call motor tics, which is where you see the body movement. But I still have some auditory ones. Actually, I'm actually ticking right now. You may not hear it.

Actually, I was actually ticking the N-word. But when I can, I try to do it either very, very softly. I try to say the word very quickly, or I will wait until I'm in a space by myself and let it out. And so the cost can be, if you hold that, if you hold it in, it's going to come out, and it comes out much worse, much more ferociously later on. So there is a cost that can come to that.

So that's why I always talk about that it should be empathy. But that has to go both ways. So if I'm in the library, I don't think I should just start screaming and ticking if people are trying to study. I also want people to understand what's going on. at that moment of time, maybe I can step out and try again. Maybe the library has a space where I can be and do what I need to do as study as well. So I think there are some different things that can be considered.

What is frustrating to me, it seems when it comes to black folks in particular, that care is not given. And so that's what's frustrating when I saw what I heard about at Bacta. There was not care given to those two actors in the way that could have been with simple tools. Now, the cost you just spoke of and the augmenting of ticks, you also said that not everyone will be able to augment. Is that something to do with the Tourette's itself or their physical abilities, you know? So, you know, everybody's individual. There's a brother named Justin Farmer who was just, it means a lot to me because he was elected in Connecticut. He got he ran for office after he saw me. He had Tourette's and he didn't think he'd be able to and he learned about me. So that's just an awesome part of my journey. Like that's one of the best moments I've I've had. He has Tetris probably wears me. He wears what like what Laura's has noise cancelling headphones that big. That helps him. That may not help everyone. Right. So it's individualized. There is behavioral therapy that helps folks augmented. I never took it. It's just something.

thing I was, you know, you try to survive, you know, particularly if you're black, does not, you know, just saying you have Tourette, don't let you get away with everything. That's right. So, I think, you know, just trying to survive and make it through, I really just tried to figure out how best to augment it. So, yes, not everybody can do it. And so, and the reason I want to say that, because there's people out there with Tourette's in school and I don't want teachers think they can do things they can't do.

But, you know, you can learn to do it. There is behavioral therapy to do it. the more you suppress it, the worse it is for you later on. So people get home and they just start doing craziness and it can be painful. The motor ticks actually, you know, thinking about things that are, you know, are social unacceptable or things that you can't control. You know, I have a tick in my shoulder. When you have pain, it actually makes you tick on that pain spot even more.

You know, I have back pains. I have shoulder pains. That's a part of Teres that's not talked about a lot. But you will tick on that spot. And so, you know, the longer you're holding a particular ticks, the more painful it could be later on. Yo, Jemani, thanks for sharing with us today, bro. Appreciate you.

Go ahead, Laura. I'm sorry. No, just because I'm learning, right, like the rest of us. And I was just curious because you did mention, you know, growing up with Tourette's, but is there a world where also when you're growing up as a young person and coming from low-income family where you don't have the access and the money to have certain therapies to help you navigate them? So the answer is yes.

So I got diagnosed about 30, 36 years ago. That was a whole different world. So I think people, there are people now who actually know about it more than they did when I was growing up. My mother, after I got diagnosed, she learned about an organization, which was then called a Tourette Syndrome Socialist America, TSA. They changed the name to Tourette Association of America, TAA. She got involved with that. I actually was on the Maury Poe Show twice, not for baby daddy stuff. They were actually doing real, real issues back then.

I was about to rest in a young person. I got to go to California to try to talk to other young folks. But what I guess is called behavior therapy, I kind of just developed that on my own. But the short answer is yes, if you are in lower-served communities, the communities you normally think about. They get under-diagnosed,

and even if they get diagnosed, they don't have access to the connections that can help life a little bit easier. I remember diagnosing people on a train. There was a young brother. I think his tick was touching the floor. And he kept dropping the book. He dropped the book, touched the floor, dropped the book, touch the floor.

And I saw what was happening. I was able to pick up on it. And I had a conversation with him. And he kept telling me he has the same book that he brings with him so he can drop it and touch the floor. But, you know, without me being there, he might not have had the way to figure out, hey, this is a real thing. You can get some help. So the short answer is yes. You know, they're like anything else, the communities that get underdiagnosed and misdiagnosed are the same.

By the way, I'm probably taking more now. When you talk about it, you tick more. When you get stressful, you tick more. When you're around people with Tourette's, you tick more, which is interesting when a bunch of us get together. It's a very interesting day because you pick up other people's ticks. You feed off all the people ticks. It gets very interesting. So you would, it sounds like what you're saying, back to the Baftas, would have been,

that either this person or his crew and or the BAFTAs would have recognized, hey, this could potentially be bad. We should either, you know, ask this person to step out or done some other things because clearly they didn't edit or they did edit, but they didn't want to edit the N-word.

And if they wanted to create a conversation, we talked about this the other day, they wanted to create a conversation around Tourette's, Maybe they could have left in some of the more, the less egregious outbursts. Right. But I'm also told that this person called like three other times called people the N-word who were black at the event. Not on camera. Jumani, let me ask jump in.

When Ebro frames it that way and says called people the N-word, is that an accurate way of even framing the conversation? I mean, you could. That's his tick. I actually spoke to one of the young women because I know her and I don't know that she wants to be public right now but I spoke to one of the young folks one of the women, she was with some black women

and he had his tick they had to do their own math to figure out that this person has Tourette's and that's what's happening. They shouldn't have to do that own math. That information should have been given to them. What's interesting is this gentleman, John Davidson was there

about this exact thing. That's right. The movie on his life is called I swear he's been going through this. He actually tried to commit suicide when he was younger, associated with this, and had to get psychiatric care. And that's why I want to make sure that we're having the care and empathy, but it has to go both ways.

So in this case, there's a reason why he's there. He eventually actually did step out. And so I want to give him his credit there. And he apologized vehemently. He was like, I am ashamed. I'm so embarrassed. Like, he was very... He is.

And but we have to acknowledge, that the word causes harm. So I think that's a part of trying to, you know, correct that harm. He was actually beaten very severely when he was younger for, I think, ticking toward a woman who the boyfriend didn't like that. So there's a lot that can go on here. And so there are things that John could do or maybe not. Like, you just don't know what's happening individual. I think he did step out, which was, you know, what should be done. I really blame Bafton and BBC. see. That's why I want people to direct their anger because this gentleman has

to rest syndrome. Everybody knows that. He's there because of this. This is the exact thing that his movie is about. They should have provided more care for people who would bear the intent in that. They didn't at all. They didn't protect anybody. And what Michael B. Jordan and Darry

and Leonard did is what black folks, unfortunately, too often have to do, have poised in a moment of harm that's happening to them. And they did that. But they should have had to. They should have had the information beforehand, they should have what it still was going on. The fact that they didn't, the fact that they didn't decide to censor that, but they censored everything else, just shows that they didn't want to provide that care.

Perhaps they just wanted people to talk about Bafter, because nobody's ever really talked about Baxter before. I'm an actor, so I know Baxter is, but most people didn't. And that's unfortunate, because there's a lot of people who are harmed here, including black folks who heard that or even that space. That gentleman is going through it right now, John Davidson, because this is, this is been the story of his life in different ways. Now, the N-word is particularly charged, and so we should view it that way, but he's had to deal with this in his life, even trying to commit suicide,

and they didn't take any steps to protect anyone. So last thing I have on this, Jumani, just to get to the root of it, though, the real, there seems to be a question of just the words that come out, you know, people are saying that, and this isn't the first time I've seen this conversation, you money. I've seen videos pop up on the algorithm too of like someone with Tourette's yelling a racial slur and then it turns to do a whole thing and some people say, oh no, he has Tourette's. Can you just give any insight as to why the words are that they are? Are the ticks often based on the fact that it is so taboo, saying something that is so inappropriate? Like, is that why those words come out? So that is the best description. What I do want to make sure it's not

It doesn't tell intent. It doesn't talk about what's in your heart. Those words are in the lexicon of our world. And so Tourette's, if you have Corporalil in particular, it does involve the most taboo words. I don't want to tick on the part of my body that is most painful to me. But that's what the tick is going to make me do. And so when it's corporellia, it just comes out as the thing that you should not say at that moment in time. If you pass by a library

It says don't whistle You're probably going to tick whistling And so that's just what's going to start to happen And so what I need folks to understand is that It doesn't describe intent That's hard to understand Because you're hearing something that's really charged Well, and like even for me, right

I see a white person using the N-word My programming, my tick, if I was to say Yes, sir. would be, I see that. It's just how I feel about it. I don't care what the reason is. But there is no reason. But the reason is just that it's a bad word.

And so, yeah, I have a problem. I have a problem digesting that. Well, you should. Like, this is the thing. What we sometimes have issue is, is we can't hold two things at one time, and we should be able to. What I just said does not change the impact of that word.

That's right. And it shouldn't. What should happen is somebody should provide a way to have harm reduction when something is going on. And that's the part that didn't happen. So I'm not saying you should just willingly accept someone who's going to scream the N-word. I'm just saying we should have had some harm reduction that didn't occur.

Justin Farmer, who I spoke about, he's doing, you know, women studies in school. He starts ticking the B word. That's not something he wants to do in a room for the women. Right. But he does have a conversation with folks. He has a conversation with his partner. Are you all right? You know, my bad, this is what's going on.

And so there's some harm reduction that tries to. happened. It doesn't take away the sting, but it does provide care going both ways. And that's what dropped. And I blame the dropping of that on Basta and BBC, not on John Davis. Shifting gears briefly, because I know it's, we're only two months into the Mamdani era of New York City. Jamani Williams, a public advocate. We've done this multiple times, I think, with three different mayors. We've done it. We've had this combo with De Blasio. We've had this Convo with Adams, and now we're having it with Mom Donnie. How would you grade Mom Donnie so far?

Oh, Lord, you're about to get me in trouble. It's hard to give grades. I will be completely honest. You can say it's too soon. Say it again? You could go where it's too soon? I think it is too soon to start grading. I think he's doing better than a lot of folks who don't like him think.

I think there's some things that he could be augmenting a little bit, so hopefully that goes forward. Quite honestly, I'd probably be around the B-minus, you know, B kind of stage. But, frankly, I don't know, sorry, I don't know, can you hear me? Yeah, we can't hear you. Just fine. I lost you for a little bit, so I can't hear you.

Hello? Yep, you're on. You're good. All right, yes. I can't, I don't know of any new mayor. that's going to be an A at this moment in time, particularly with two snowstorms coming in and a brand new administration.

So he's about where I think a new mayor would be at this moment in time, and in time will tell as we move forward. I do know this. We are aligned in thinking and policy, and governing is hard, so there's still going to be some of us that have to kind of push him to do those things.

But what I like is that the things that he believes, he's always believed, he was talking about those things when he was polling at 1%. So he didn't change what he believed to get elected. He got people to join him in that message. And to have a mayor who believes this and really wants all New Yorkers to do better is a stark difference from the we previously had. So I'm excited about that.

I'm looking forward to work with him. And I got things that I probably need to do a little better as well. I'm not in that hot seat. So it makes it a little easier for me to maneuver around it. And I believe he'll be maneuver as well. You know, I think the issues around, say, the property tax hike was not message correctly. I think we should have gotten some partners to figure out how we can get that message, particularly message of taxing the rich a little better.

So people didn't think that we're trying to raise their property taxes in a way that would be harmful. On that, Jumani, I feel like the Maga machine, they jumped in full-fledge on that. and really just ran that up the flagpole because I watched him talk about this and didn't walk away feeling like he was going to raise taxes and property taxes. I walked away feeling like

what he wants Kathy Hochle to do is to understand that he needs property taxes to be raised on corporations and the rich and he needs to go through the budget with a fine-tooth comb and they're going to try to find more savings but the last resort that he doesn't want to do

would be this 9% property tax. That's what I walked away with. But then the next day, everywhere, it was... So, but let's explain why. So, one, that's 100%. My message, I think everybody's anger should be at Kathy Hope. Right, that's what I think, Mr. Man. Because she has tools that she's not using,

primarily to people who are donors. and the message she has makes it feel like she's protecting everybody from taxes. No, she's only protecting 30,000 people in the 20 million people who are in New York. Say that again, she's only protecting 30,000 donors, very rich people, not the 20 million rest of us. The 33,000 people in New York. That's the only people she's trying to protect. And they happen to be the biggest donors. And we're saying if we would just tax them a little bit more and they have expendable income,

everybody else would be okay because somebody is going to pay. It's going to be either working class folks or in this case it would be, you know, property owners, but they pretend like somebody's not going to pay. And if we cut services, those people are going to pay as well. They're going to probably be black and brown folks. And so what probably should have been happening in that messaging is we should have got together with government partners so we can figure out how to message it a little bit better. By the way, people think they're going to go from 10% to 20%.

That's not what it is. So just so folks are clear what he proposed, which we should not do anyway, is that if your property taxes at 10%, it would go to 11%. And that 1% equals a 10% increase. And so even the messaging of it didn't help people understand what it was. They think they were going from 10 to 20 when they're really going from, say, 10 to 11. That is a horrible communication. Yes, because 1 is 10% of 10.

I get it. That's a disaster. It was just a bad communication, but he is correct. Governor Hoke will have to tax wealthy folks so we can get some more income. We don't have money choices. It's either increased revenue, cut services. That's what generally New York City has the ability to do. She has more tools.

She needs to open it up. I'm hoping there's a lesson that, you know, the new mayor incoming will have that we need to message these things a little bit better and get some partners on more. And by the way, the people who hurt the most of black and brown homeowners because the taxes right now are inequitable. So you have millionaires paying less in taxes than people who live in Southeast Queens or Flatbush. And everybody knows that it's an equitable system, but nobody, unfortunately, is doing anything about it? Jamani Williams, I know we're out of time.

I wanted to go over the snowball fight that's being blown out of proportion, or is it being blown out of proportion, or the landlords being arrested, which I don't feel like is getting the headlines, because there's definitely been some landlords recently that have been arrested since Mom Dani's been an officer. but maybe we'll cover that at another time. For the snowboard joint, like, again, this is things, everybody's going to take away what they want for me. For me, like, look, should you probably do that? I would probably say no.

It looks like it got a little bit out of hand. Does people need to be arrested? I'd also probably say no. And you just need to be able to. The police union need to frame it as a violent attack against... Well, these are the same people that have never seen a police shooting that they didn't like. Right.

So you have to think about who is the men. messenger. Of course. And so I think we should all be able to say, hey, man, y'all probably shouldn't do that. These folks are coming to do their job. And you need a willing participate when you're going to have a snowball fight. Like whoever it is, a cop or another person, it should be a willing participant. Don't do that. It got a little out of hand. That's a real thing. Do people need to get arrested? Probably not. Like, all those messages can be there. But you have people who want to have one of the other. And that's when it gets unnecessarily content. I don't know, Jamani, you want a lot of people to have to walk and chew gum at the same time.

It's hard for people to hold two thoughts, man. It is, man. But we have to have leaders that want to help people do that. That's right. Right now, unfortunately, we have leaders that prefer not to. But I appreciate you. I want to come back. It's good to be back on here.

So I thank y'all for continuing to platform and allow me to be on. Always, bro. We'd love to have me in the studio. Talk to you soon. Peace and blessings. There he is. There is. Jamani Williams.

Great guy. Honestly, we underrate when we think about Jumani, because for people, you know, maybe who are new to us, we've had him on our radio show regularly for years, a decade now, close to it. It's funny how little we've ever even talked about as Tourette's. Right. Like today we spend a lot of time on it. I think when he got elected, we talked to him. For sure. It definitely came up and we talked to, I think we talked to him about acting, and he talked about how his becoming a thespian really impacted in a positive way, his tics.

But we don't spend a lot of time talking about, like, him rising in New York politics with what was when we first met him a pretty severe physical tick. Yeah. It's pretty amazing. No, he's doing the work. He's an ill guy. And a guy who I think, I don't know, I'm making this up, but did Mom Donnie's emergence and his sort of what could have been a mayor, mayor will run right now? I don't know. Did Jumani Laura go for mayor or was he going?

He went at government. He never went. He never went. I think there was convos about governor. Oh, is it a governor that he was a jump? But it was never, it was never about, I don't remember a mayor convoy. Okay. So, I don't remember that either.

I don't know. But, you know, when we have him back on. We'll talk to him about it. I like having them on because, look, one thing, hopefully you notice there with the Jamani Williams convo, he cuts through the BS and the noise and really gets you down to like. Brass tax, as they said. That and also just the proper words to describe a thing.

you know care going both ways and like these kind of like concepts of like he's good man doing more than one thing at a time does it he is a politician but he really doesn't feel like a politician well and I also wanted to back him into a corner because you know he wanted I remember we had him on the show when we were doing uh hot 97 and he wanted me to give uh Adams grace I don't know if you guys remember that and I was like I'm telling you bro he's a cop bro he's a cop when was that that was like a year into Adam and he hadn't been on the show and I was like, yo, he's doing the cop thing, blah, blah, I actually ran into Jumani and he didn't,

I never talked about this publicly. I ran into him, him and his wife at an event. Me and Jazz was out. And he was like, yo, man, I think you're right about Adams, but I'm not saying. Oh, my God. He was like, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to give a black man a chance, man.

I'm trying. Well, he's got an important. I see that. Yeah, he's got an important position as the public advocate. But then Adams went in on Jumani, remember? Adams, he's a piece of. shit. I'm sorry, respectfully. Do you? You don't think you need

to respectfully with Adam. He's, he, everything, like, he's just like everybody else. Like, he's, he's just... Well, hopefully not everybody. We're hoping Mom Donnie's different, right? Oh, when I say everybody else, I mean, all the bad guys. Oh, okay, not like Mom Donnie. Sorry, I'm, thank you for stopping me, because there are a lot of people who put all... I mean the Trump's

and the, he's just, he's a nothing burger. Like, he was, and we knew it. But the thing is, we got caught up. Not we, because I was firmly. Yeah. I ranked him third. You ranked him. Laura and I didn't rank him.

Laura, you didn't rank him at all. Yeah, we didn't rank. So you're in the rank club, buddy. I got, I'm a rancor. No, Ebro's blackness forced him to rank Eric Adam. That's right. Well, and I knew him. And right, you had the personal report.

I knew her from, you're Ebro's. You're his good friend to Ebrose. I see him out. I saw him. He was in, you know, he was. And by the way, he was, he was a black cop trying to hold black or trying to hold the NYPD accountable. That's how we met him.

Then he became a borough president. So we met him doing work. That is the interesting part. And listen, I still remember Shawnee Culture being like, yo, I know him from doing things in the community. Right. He's outside. Yes. And I know other people who are activists in the community who said the same.

But then they were like, things changed. That's the thing. I don't want to take away everything every day because you're right. Early on, he really did do stuff with keeping police accountable. Yeah. But man, he's one of those people who when he started tasting the power, And I told you, that's that cop, man. We called it.

That was the piece we called. I was like, bro, he's a cop, bro. No, no, he, during the mis. And by the way, for the police officers out there, it's not all of y'all. And that's tough to hear, though. And that's tough to hear. But there are police and y'all know it. You're in it for the power.

That's why you're in it. You want to be popping. You want to be powerful. And you want to hold that power over people's heads. I, there are good. cops. No, no, but there's cops who aren't in it for that. And they're not. They're there. You meet them. And you go, wow, lovely person. This is a lovely person. Some of them you're like, oh, you never got any pussy. Oh, you got bullied in high school. Ah, you had a small dick. Oh, I can, I can sense it. It's the

energy you're pushing out there. And unfortunately, Eric Adams didn't seem like he was one of those guys, but once he got to that next place, bro, and I know it's funny when he talks about a shorty and rock away. And, you know, he used hip-hop lingo and, like, He would use black culture at times to make himself seem cool. Well, he's black. Because he's black. He has that at his disposal. It's in the holster when he needs it.

But in reality, you're like, yo, and then he just started out. That's why I keep saying it's the cop thing. It's the cop part. No, because blue can become bigger than black. Right. Blue can become the number one color. And if you want to be embraced by all of them, you have to make that. You start doing the day.

You start doing the dance. I love Jumani, though, man. It's a good Thursday vibe for me. I like this to get me towards the end of the week. Doing the dance. Trying to be accepted. Bottom of blue. We haven't spent enough time being positive about Clay Thompson and Megan the Staglio.

I just want to say, they look really happy. Yeah, they're doing that thing. No, I'm happy for Clay, bro. Happy for Clay? Yes. So, wait, your impression of Clay is square. Okay. See, and I think that's why people have.

And so here's my impression. My impression is you didn't really know Clay like that. Clay was because Steph was the man. So you didn't know what Clay was moving like. He was under the radar. He did his job. He won his chips. He hit his three.

One of the great shooters a whole time. I tell you what? He was smoking big weed. Clay would be on his boat. You ever remember before he started dating and Megan, he would be on his boat chilling? You don't remember those videos? I kind of do now, actually.

I don't. You don't know, Laura. No. Yeah, I don't know. Nah, Clay used to be like, and remember they would win a championship and Clay would be like hat twisted, kind of twizzy up there with a cigar. So you're saying, I saw what he was, but because he's light skin and quiet, people assumed he was a door. Ebro's taking this as a light skin prod moment. That's what I'm saying.

But I just know how some light skins get framed. That's what I'm saying, though. Yeah, yeah. I know. You've seen this before. And it's not true. And now he bagged to joint. Bagged to join.

And she loves him. I mean, she's cooked, Laura, I mean, the gifts. I love to see it. The cooking meals. Like, my man's, she's bringing him an extra plate. And he's at the end of his career. It's winding down. Yeah.

I'm happy for him, man. Because imagine. They're going fishing. She's teaching him how to do this. Yeah. Listen, guys, it's great, but that's what you don't judge a book. Don't judge a book. See, but I'm judging the book and still enjoying it.

But I guess your version could be, don't judge the book. He's actually got game. I also like the version of he's kind of quiet, plays the back. still pulled the batty. Either way, it's a tub. Yeah, it's a dumb. I like all. And by the way, and I like it for Megan. I like it for Megan, too. You know, Megan, she's had some choices. She's made choices.

Some have been better than others. I like this choice. I think Clay Thompson is a you're going to be all right. You know what I'm saying? But there's also judging that book too. Completely. Because you're assuming that because they're great right now, it couldn't end like

you know, with her doing something egregious or him doing something. You're right. that you wouldn't assume because he's the nice guy. He's the guy you can bring home to mummy. Correct. But that might be his hustle. We're making all of this up. Absolutely.

But in Fantasyland, I think it's a great little thing. I'm enjoying. See, for our basketball, we got the WMBA. Sorry, Laura, go ahead. I said, let us live here. We like it over here. No, I like it, too. We like the positivity.

Yeah. I'm just, I was just leaning, Laura, I was just leaning into all the assumptions we're making about people. Huge assumptions. I know. He's a square. He's a good guy. he's safe, he's the one, he's perfect.

What do I know? He hits threes. He was a baller. He could play great D and I saw him score. Clearly he could play great D. Hey, yo. You watching this man's D is wild, Ebro. That's crazy. He's checked in on the D. He's clocked in.

Well, I mean, he's got to be tapping strong because the way she talks to her wraps, she knows what she's looking for. So he has to deliver. But remember, she's also a sneaky square. He might really actually be hitting it from downtown. Like he's downtown and that thing a lingered jacobah. All right.

You're doing too long distance. Oh my God. Sorry. Sorry. Listen, once again, making assumptions. I'm taking what she raps about and what he had to deliver and clearly

putting together that, you know, he's putting that thing down. Lay him down, smack him, yak him, Clay. Oh, boy.

Not too far? No, you're going too far. You're analyzing. Speaking of all basketball, can I get the WNBA? Do you have any intel? here, ESPN's own Rosenberg on this

WMBA situation. Turns a profit to WNBA? Yes, I heard that. I saw the thing. They're splitting up some dough that they haven't split up before? And this is all part of the new collective bargaining agreement

that they're trying to get. I don't know where it's at, though. Well, I don't know where the agreements at, but I think as a part of the path, I don't know if they've decided, but as a part of the path, did we get the graphic up? You guys look like y'all was struggling. You all right? All right.

The league will give $8 million to each team. The union will give another $9 million to each team, and the money will be shared among the players. So another $17 million among the team. Into the pot. Listen, for Ebro-Loran Rosenberg, man, that would change the game. Yes.

For the WMBA teams, it's a step. No, it's a step. Oh, okay, it's not a complete fan. No, it's something. I mean, listen, some of these players, I mean, guys, Caitlin Clark's salary is like $90,000, right? Say word. So if $2 million is coming into these teams,

you're talking about each player getting a several hundred thousand dollars. It's a smack. That's kind of a smack. So, I mean, it's the beginning, but obviously, you know, it's a complicated situation because the WMBA players are paid severely less than the NBA. Yeah. The problem is we are decades from that being different because of the NBA. of the amount of money that is spent on people who want to consume the product.

That's the challenge. Has the discussion, so the WNBA's been around 20? Yeah. Or 30. Are we at 30? It's close. Late 90s. Look, can you cross-reference that for me?

Can anybody understand that around? I bet it's like 26, 27 years. All right. So we'll go with that number. At 26, 27 years. 96. So 30 this year. At 30 years of the NBA.

Oh, man. What were they made? What was happening? I'm pretty sure 30 years of the NBA. Lou, can you can, what years the NBA start? The association just did 75 recently, right? Because they did 75 players. So, 1950.

So 30, so nah, late 70s, nastiness. A disaster of a league. Money's not good. Okay. Players are a mess. People aren't really watching like that. And it's not apples to apples. And I know people watching are like, nah,

but the NBA is supposed to make sure that the W. NBA or whatever. And they do pony up some dollars. They've been ponying up dollars. It's their league. It's their league to make sure even when it wasn't making money. Yeah, they're keeping it going. Right. You could question if they need to give more based on how much

money they have. And that's where I was going to go. I would think that's fair. So I was just kind of giving some context because it's still a relatively new league. The play has changed. The storylines have changed. Oh no, we know players. We know a bunch of. We always knew the biggest stars. Yes. But now you know like

If we were to go through the league, you'd be surprised now. How many players do you know? Like each team, you know a player. That's right. They're close to it. That's right. And back in the day, it was like, I know Cheryl Swoops. I know Lisa Leslie.

You know what I mean? Now it's like on a team. In New York, I know Brianna Stewart, and I know Sabrina Nesco. Like, each team has multiple players that you might know. It's not just Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. So them going to make money in the WMBA is probably going to happen faster than the NBA. It's really where I wanted to land. I guess the question I have is because I don't know enough about it.

And I only wanted to say it's because new businesses are take time. Take time. But I don't know because the NBA was a mess in the 70s. But that said in the 60s, right, the Bill Russell Celtics, it was a thing and it was a big deal. How was the money? I don't know. I don't know if they were financially doing great. I don't know.

But I know when you see those highlights of the Celtics running off eight chips in a row, it looks like there are crowds there. You see Red Arbac, smoking the cigar. Paying $5 a ticket. Five? What kind of first? The first row seats you're talking about? I bet it was like 75 cents to get in there.

Right. You know, $2 to sit in the front row. So who knows? Now, Laura, you're familiar with the WNBA only because you are the official Latina, Latina. How do you say it? Latina announcer for the Brooklyn Nets. No, she's gone to games just to enjoy the WNB.

Okay, I'm not the official one. They just invited me to be a guest. Multiple times. That's it. Who else goes in there speaking Spanish? Exactly. Nobody. I don't know.

But for Noce Latina, they call me. Exactly. Anybody watching from the Brooklyn Nets? Listen from the Brooklyn Nets right now. Who else other than Laura Stiles is in there? I'm going to argue that Laura Stiles is not only not the official person. She's the definition of the unofficial. Like, they have her regularly, but it's not official.

Now, Laura, you're most familiar with Ellie the L. Right. Doing this. Well, no, because she's a big Ellie the Elephant. She knows more than Ellie the elephant. You sure? I told you. No.

No, I'm not. Now, how much money do you think Ellie's making? She needs to, yo. She needs her own collection bargaining agreement. Ellie, listen, because I'm going to tell you what they're going to try to do to you, Ellie. They think anybody could get in that suit and have the swag. They're wrong. They're wrong.

So whoever's in that suit, renegotiate your contract because you're hot out. There's not another mascot hotter than Ellie the elephant. No. Well, I mean, listen. The elephant is in vogue and like she has partnerships with like Fenty Beauty. No, listen. Listen, that's crazy. Listen, she's hot.

I love Ellie, the elephant, but I don't want y'all to sleep on the people who broke down the doors like my, like my brother, Benny the Bull. I mean, Benny the Bull was out here. No, no, Benny the Bull and the popcorn bit. You know how I feel about it.

Yeah, but we're talking about now. We're talking about the women doing things now. He's still out there. Yeah, but he ain't hot as Ellie the elephant. No, Ellie's not. He's not. He's not. You missed your moment, Mr. Bull.

We should get Ellie to be the mascot for our show because Ebro and Ellie and Ellie kind of work. Talk to them. The elephant. Yo, Laura, reach out to them in Spanish over there. Hold on. The ELR elephant? Oh! What? But isn't that the Republican logo too? Damn. Yeah, but so what? We already like

Ellie, the elephant. They can't get all. We're not giving them elephants. You can't have it. No, y'all can't have elephants. You can have the USA hockey team. How fair? You can have them. You can have your man, what's your man, Cash Patel? He's really a mascot. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. You got, Cash Patel is yours.

You know, I got a funny email chain the other day. My dad started an email chain. I've been, I've been really appreciative of, like, communication with my dad these days. Probably because of conversations we have on this show, and both you guys have lost your dad. And so, like, it's just been on my mind. And so I've been really trying to appreciate how much I get to hear from my dad about everything. And the other day, he sent out a thing about, he sent a group chat to like me, his, like, two best friends and my uncle, his brother-in-law. He just random.

Because let me say it's my old people. people. The new text chains and email chain? Oh man, they just new groups every day where you go, I see one number I know. I see one number I don't know. Put them all together. So he sent one the other day to Jeremy and Ken and my uncle Sam and me about the USA hockey team and how disappointed he was. First of all, he called the baseball team. I went, you mean hockey? He responded, yeah, I always mixed them up. They both got sticks. He's not far off. And then the conversations go back and forth. And my dad says, ah, now they're hanging out

with Hitler. You know, he's going in. Then Ken comes back with Jack Hughes doesn't seem to be a particularly bright bulb, right? This is the conversation I'm watching go back. And then my dad said, only half Jewish. If he was fully Jewish, man, never mind. Then my dad posted the day after yesterday. This is the day after

the State of the Union. I watched last night until those fratboy, quote, heroes of the Olympic Games came in and I went to bed. I think I fell asleep instantly. I wake up, look at the times, and I'm glad I did. I'm struck by the use of the word heroes about hockey players. A great metaphor for the stupidity of this country.

There are so many heroes, but athletes, professional or otherwise, really don't qualify, except for Muhammad Ali, Colin Kaepernick, and Pat Tillman, and, of course, number one, Jackie Robinson. Not for how they did their game, but for what they stood for. That made me sick. But I just woke up, and that's all I saw. I'm proud that Jack Hughes skills came from his mother's side I guess that's the Jewish side Now what's interesting though is this idea that we

In a moment of whatever's going on when somebody does something for the country Or in representation of the country They didn't do anything for the country No they represented But some people may interpret you know them uplifting people's spirits as doing something for the country Let's see you know if you want to do that But that is a thing We will just throw hero at somebody.

They did nothing brave. Well, Trump, Trump in at the state of the union, told the goalie, I'm giving you the Congressional Medal of Freedom, the highest honor a civilian can get. Now, listen, let's not pretend they haven't given that to a lot of people. Congratulations, you plagiarcing. I'm not going to pretend they haven't given it to a lot of people. But it's usually after a lifetime. I need to see the list.

I need to see the list for the congressional medal of honor. or maybe somebody pull out of the list people who did absolutely nothing but block hockey pub. And really you saw them in one moment because he hadn't watched Halibuck in other games. It was that game. He watched him in one game. Didn't know his name until he wrote it down on the prompter

because when he called them, he just kept going, the goalie, that goalie is something. The goalie is. So you didn't know his name on Sunday. And on Tuesday, you gave him the congressional. National Medal of Free. Yo, we are an absolute laughing. You play.

Because people get it, but they're more like lifetime achievement awards. Like you were an actor who entertained Americans for 50 years. Yes. You know, or you were an athlete who did. Bill Russell, Obama gave it to Bill Russell, I want to say. You know, Bill Russell, who, by the way, was a hero in more ways than being a player. But also civil rights, he was active as an athlete. At a time when it was super unpopular.

Who was fighting through the racism of Boston. while being the star of this team, player, coach, winning championships. I mean, okay, here we go, guys. Here we go. The recent honorees or winners, whatever you want to call them, Giuliani. Oh, from Trump.

Juliani, the former New York City Bayer. But listen, as much as we say about Giuliani, we can't act like he didn't do something. During 9-11, he did a thing. At some point, it would have made sense for him to get that. That's right. Sure. And Charlie Kirk.

See? Give it to the goalie. The goalie deserves it more than Charlie Kirk. You know what? If we're measuring it. But Charlie Kirk went around to schools and talked. And did nothing except cause problems. And now the other guy's doing it.

You see that? No. The guy, your man, Myron Gaines. Never heard of him. He's the, he's the, he's the breakout star from Fresh and Fit. From T-Pusa? From Fresh and Fit. No, he's Fresh and Fit, baby.

What's Fresh and Fit? He's, he's a disgusting, gross, like, big-in-eat. And he's like, the worst. What's his background, Rosenbro? He, I haven't even... Is he Dominican? I don't know, he looks black. No, no, no.

Wait, Google it. I think he's Somalian or something like that. I think, I don't know. Oh, he's Somali. I don't know what is ever going to accept you in T. Pusa. He's... I don't even know what he's race is. All I see is big a color.

He loves to go after black women. Oh, he goes out there. Jew stuff. He wears the shirt. Wait, is this the black dude that was hanging out with Andrew Tense? and all of them? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Wait, he's the new Charlie Kirk, or are you just saying that? He's getting a big... He's not with T-Pusa. He's not with T-Pusa, but he's getting a big algorithm push. Tell me if I'm... Guys, tell me if I'm wrong. Big algorithm push, and he's doing the going around to college campuses and saying, debate me, except say what you want about Charlie Kirk.

I will say a lot. He wasn't stupid, right? Like, he could have debates where he has... He hell. He retained information very well. A little bit, but he also did not have facts on a lot of things. No, no, but that was intentional lying. That's different.

That was, I'm not saying he was an honest broker. He was a liar. But he knew this guy can't even keep up to argue. Like, he's getting roasted by college kids. He's out here getting roasted. But this is what we're going to have. The next, who wants to be the next, you know, hero? I just looked him up, Rosenberg.

He's Sudanese, excuse me. He sued a knees. Damn. Yeah. I love my suit in these people. Why you got this. Someone has to do something. Get this guy out of the spotlight, bro.

This guy is a joker. I mean, he's bad, bro. He wears a shirt. He wears this shirt all the time that has a, it's like a Sesame Street. It's like Elmo or some Sesame Street character. Cookie Monster. That makes sense.

Putting cookies in the oven. And it's a metaphor for Jews going in the oven. And everyone knows that's what the whole thing is. And he wears the shirt out. and then he's super anti-histra with it. It's not good. Anyways, so the Congressional Medal of Freedom is obviously made a joke by Trump

just like, you know. And I'm sure there's other times in history where there's people that, you know, people didn't think should have gotten. I guarantee you the list, though, has gotten worse post-Trump if we were to break it down. How much you want to bet? Probably. And some other more serious news,

do you guys, are you guys watching what's going on in Quaker Town PA? No. Where the, let's run this. Do you have the Tizzy E&T. Shout to Tizzy E&T on Instagram. Always doing something on the right side of history and putting in that work. I love that. Some teenagers were leaving high school, the story goes.

All right. A walkout in a protest. Okay. They got support from their principal. What was the cause? I believe the car was, I don't recall. Anti-ice? Yeah, it was ice protest.

My niece and nephew's high school, my high school. BCCC, they did that. That's the same thing. Got to walk out. Well, here's the full story. All right. We're going to talk about Quaker Town, a borough of Philadelphia. Normally, you see a video like that, an older white guy attacking kids who appear to be protesting.

Then you see my face pop up. You're expecting me to go like, who is this guy only I don't need to do that because we unfortunately already know who this is. And I say unfortunately because he's the chief of police there. That was their chief of police putting a teenage girl in a chokehold. Of course, inevitably, there's going to be the people who were like, well, what did they do? Nothing. They were trying to exercise their First Amendment rights.

And police were like, you. You can't do that and trying to stop them. When this old piece of shit came rushing in and just grab one of the girls in a chokehold, and then they all dogpiled. And from this angle, you can see just how terrified of this young girl is. This video comes from Evan Yelzick Clouds on Instagram. And the other girls didn't hesitate to jump in and start beating what is apparently, or appears to be, a man attacking one of their own, and they stood up and defended.

So now a bunch of them have been arrested. It was originally being reported that they were held overnight, but I'm told at least some of them were held through today, Tuesday. There was court today. There was a blizzard, basically, over the weekend, and those kids didn't get to be with their families because they were facing charges over an incident that was instigated and escalated by the police.

So it goes on to talk about how the principal supported the kids doing the walkout in the protest. And then the internet got a hold of the principal supporting the kids and started to basically bully the principal and docs all his information, the principal, who still went on to support the kids and was like, hey, we need to provide a kind of safe environment.

But then the police were basically like, you can't allow the kids to do this in this town. And it escalated to the chief of police, choking a girl from a high school girl. I can't imagine.

Yo, the level of jail time you might be looking at if that were your child? Now, according to Buck, Bucks County Herald, the Quaker Town Area Residents urged counsel to fire the police chief. They tried to give or are trying to give the students aggravated assault charges. For defending their friend? Yeah. By the way, that cop wasn't even in uniform.

No. So it's just a random man. Let's be clear. It just looks like a random man also who's fighting a child. That's right. And with other police standing by. But that was the police chief. These people are monsters, man.

Three students have been released four days after they were taken into custody. So that was on Tuesday when he was talking about. Since the students are charged as juveniles, authorities have not released their names, ages, et cetera, et cetera. The news organization, this news organization, PhillyBurbs.com, has confirmed at least two-faced felony aggravated assault for the alleged attack on Quakertown Police Chief Scott McKelry. Now, based on that video, the police chief claims he had the right to detain that girl. Why? What did she do? Yeah, what was the reason?

Let's play the game. We want to play the game? Let's play the game. What did she do? Um, it doesn't say. It just says that the video shows him physically confronting student protesters, including allegedly punching a girl, grabbing a boy, and putting another girl in a chokehold. So there's another girl who was punched?

Yes. According to people. Yo, I'm proud of those kids for defending one of their fellow students. It's disgusting. Yo, kids have been... Laura, kids have been walking out of schools and protesting every once in a while forever. And usually what happens is if you go to a decent school, the teachers here that it's happening, the principal's here that's happening, they go, all right, maybe they'll discourage it and say, hey, guys, we have some stuff today. Or they just suck it up and go, all right, if you're going to do it, try to be back by, blah.

They try to play along with them to let the kids do show that they care about something and not punish them for it. That's kind of like how can we teach our kids to have an investment in what's happening in the world and want to protest and be active without punishing them. That's what good schools do. And obviously this principal tried to do that. And this small dick loser had to come up and try to choke a girl. And then, you know, I'm proud of the kids. I'd be proud. If Maya were among the kids who defended her friend and punched that dude in the head, I'd say that's when you should punch someone in the head. Well, and reading this news report, there was an adult man that jumped on top of the police chief, and they were trying to charge him too.

Because he jumped on the police chief to try to yank him off the girl. Well, that makes sense too, right? Yeah. But they said that that person has not been charged. This is all in Bucks County? Bucks County. Well, that's where dips from. So yeah, Quaker Town, PA. Quaker Town, PA, though, makes it sound way further away than it is.

Bucks County is Philly suburbs. So just so everyone's clear. Got it. Like, Quaker Town makes it feel like where in Pennsylvania is this. If it's Bucks County, it's right there. Yeah, it's definitely Bucks County. It's Philly. So, yeah, some of the goings-ons.

Now, musical goingsons. Are you guys aware of the Miley Cyrus Bruno Mars kerfuffle? It sounds familiar. I saw. Did we hear about it a long time ago and then no? I don't, I don't recall hearing about it until this week. So this isn't about,

but these songs are older. Didn't someone, this is about the songs? What are the songs? Here we have, here we go, we'll have a listen. We have Miley Cyrus flowers.

Right. All right, stop it. We don't know. Everyone knows that song. Okay. And Bruno Mars is saying they stole from him. What's his song called? Oh, no.

All right, stop me. You get some trouble. What's that one called? Oh, I love it. When I was your man. Am I confused or did someone else, another star, make another song that was like a sequel to flowers? I don't know. All right, so what are they trying to say it is besides talking about flowers?

Well, Bruno is saying they stole. They stole word. I think it's words and an interpolation that they didn't get credit for. What's the interpolation? And there wasn't approval for. What do you think? Interesting. I don't hear it at my first listen.

It's tough. I kind of hear it, but it's also like not quite. The legal dispute when I was your man is suing Miley Cyrus over her hit Flowers claiming it copies melodic, harmonic, and lyrical elements. Bruno Mars is not personally involved in the lawsuit. Tempo music claims Flowers is an unauthorized exploitation of his work. So another part of it is. So here's the big part. Okay, this is what I thought.

All right. People had interpreted Miley Cyrus's flowers to be a response record. Got it. So Bruno sings, I should have bought you flowers and held your hand. Miley responds,

I can buy myself flowers. I can hold my own hand. So that's part of it, is that she's actually responding to his... In a way, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It always surprises me that things like this can't get solved with like a mutual friend phone call. Like, let's just find with the money.

It depends on who owns it. You're assuming Miley owns it. Oh, right. So who else is involved? It said some company tempo music. It said Bruno Marr's not even involved. So it's not even really Bruno and Miley. Oh.

I don't know if it's on Miley side, but on Bruno's side, that just said Bruno's not actually involved. He didn't make the, he didn't write the record. Or he's not, you know, for the part that he owns, he's not suing. I don't know. I don't know where he's at in that whole thing. Because it just seems like an unnecessary. You would think like... Figure it out.

Yeah, and if in fact, like, if Bruno cared about it, right? Because Miley's record was so big, how do we turn this into something else cool? You know, where we all just kind of benefit from it. There you go. You know, like, let's do a record together. You would think. That's what you would think. So it doesn't surprise me that it's more a publishing thing.

thing than them because yeah but I don't I don't musically hear like for example I always could hear from the second I heard the Robin Thick record I heard Marvin Gaye right and I still didn't have a problem with Farrell and Robin Thick

like I I still think it was mostly an influence but you could hear it like really hear it I don't really hear it in this except the words you know what I'm saying that's right I don't have in the response Yeah, the fact that she's kind of, but is that?

But I mean, you're telling me now, now sporting thieves can't make no pigeons? It's not hip-hop. It's not a different era, bro. Yeah, because, yeah, in this era, that's why people don't do a lot of sampling. There's not a lot of jacking for beats. There's not a lot of, especially as official releases, right? Which is why Cole, when he puts out his birthday blizzard, it goes on, you know, even, you know, whatever that, the site, even. And, you know, you can pay what you want for, but it's not on a streaming, sir.

Right. Yo, no pigeons was a moment in time. It's so funny. No pigeons. It's so ridiculous. Before, Laura, we got to get to the rundown and the lowdown. You got anything from the lowdown today? Not for the lowdown, but I just saw something for the rundown. That's kind of cool. You guys ready? Yeah, let's get it. Laura got the rundown turned that up. Screen's on glow when she pulled up. Headlines heavy, but we still cut up. Light still flashing. We don't slow up.

All right. We have some new names that have been announced for the Rockin' Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh. Lauren Hill. Okay. Wu-Tang. Jeff Buckley, Phil Collins, Luther Vandra, Shakira, Pink, New Edition, and Melissa Etheridge. Oh, it's a nice list.

But these are people we got to go vote for. They got to vote on this still. Yeah, the public vote too. Yeah. So, yeah, man, we got to get to vote. We need to make some sort of Can we make a graphic Their first time nominee, Wu Tang.

Yeah. I know. I thought they were already. New addition to. New edition's first time nominee? Yes. I love it. I mean, they're on that list.

That's dope. This list is fire. No one tell Gene Simmons. Gene Simmons is going to be hot. Hey, yo, Gene Simmons. Check this out, fan. Slap. No, F out of here.

So hold on. Wu Tang. in excess. Your girl, Melissa Etheridge. I love Melissa. Sorry, Laura. I'm rereading some of the things I already said. New Edition.

Yes. And Lauren Hill. But there's, yeah, yeah. Pink, Shakira, Luther Vandross. Lauren Hill. Wow. Yeah, how crazy is it that last year? Chubby Checker went in.

Well, why is that crazy? Just the order of the order of things. Oh, like, why now? It's just so, so crazy. It's so, yeah, it is crazy. I don't know why it happens like that. Rosenberg is all in on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Well, I was two years ago.

You went. Two years ago. For trial. No, but I think once you went and you kind of experienced it, because the few times I've gone open me up to it a lot more. No, it's cool. Like, they've turned it into an actual award show you can enjoy. Yeah.

Speeches from big stars about big bands. Yep. Then performances from big people. Like, it's just chock full of big stuff. And I don't know how much credit goes to our brother, Quest, love. But I'd like to give him a shout. because he's been involved for the last four at least yeah maybe five years yeah he's been a big part of turning that thing the right direction and getting the representation to be proper that's right

he was a big part of tribe getting in there outcast of course getting in last year was awesome but we have still skipped you know it does skip all order that i don't even want to get into eripi and rakem got to go in guys we got to figure this out we got to figure this out we got to figure this out we got to maybe we got to have quest on somebody reach out the quest see if we could talk to him about what's going but i think eripan have been nominated so it's a matter of them getting voted for and the problem is when a Wu-Tang clan comes along, it blows out people like Eric Bian Rok-Hin. Right, because there's so many fans.

And they're so big. So, but the fact is, how Rakeem needs to be in there. Yes, without a doubt. You can argue, I think it's a reasonable argument that he's the most important, like the most important influential rapper of all time.

Yeah, right? That's reasonable. I think it's complete. How do you secure a nomination? How does that work? Is it like a team within the rock and roll Hall of Fame, do they have like a committee? Is that how it works?

Yeah, yeah. No, it's a committee. It's a committee that works on coming up with nominations, I believe. And then they have voters. And then like, and then some people get in from public vote. And some people get in through votes in the like academy or whatever. Yeah, stop listening because the explanation was long. Sorry. That's what I think it is.

No, I mean, you're probably right, but that was a long explanation. It seems complicated. I'm going to just go do my part and vote. You vote? All right. Online for that one. Yeah, yeah. Now, Laura Stouse.

Yes. You got more in the rundown? Um, I actually, I think I can consider this part of the lowdown. Okay, messiness. Let's go. Let's go. Just because it's stupid. For the lowdown with Laura Stuy.

So, you know, Don Lemon has, uh, has had his share of legal problems, right? But let's add another one. Now a woman, okay, by the name of Anne Doucette, claims that she went to her service. You know, the one in Minnesota where the church protest took place and was covered by Don Lemon last month. Well, now she's suing Don Lemon saying that she suffered severe emotional distress as a result of the incident. She's alleging that Don and along with others, they unlawfully interfere with her ability and freely extradition. exercise her religion in a private place of worship. So she wants money.

So let me guess. She stopped and did an interview with Don Lemon. Is that what she? She was one of the ones. I think she was just attending. Yeah. So she just happened to be there. And it's Don Lemon's fault because...

Why is it Don Lemon's fault now? Because he was a reporter. And he probably had the most money. Who she's going to sue? One of the other activists? They ain't got no money to come after. She wanted to go after Don Lemon. She's a big check.

He's the biggest name. He's the biggest name. That's why. And also what will end up happening here, I'd assume, is if Don Lemon gets off of his charges, which are basically claiming he had something to do with the protest and the interference and bringing that energy into the church, then her lawsuit falls apart too. But she might as well, I think in her eyes, she might as well shoot the shot. See if she could walk away with a couple of hundred dabs.

Right. Exactly. Nowadays, you never know. She might have a chance. No, she's shooting the shop. I mean, this is Trump's America, baby. You never know. Going after the black man for no reason.

Get him paid. Just a journalist journaling. Just he was out there talking to people, being curious about what was going on. What kills me is like every time I see a clip of him saying like, yeah, I'm not part of the protest. I'm just covering it. Like he says it. He does. It's like they were trying to catch him up in it from the beginning.

He's like, no, no, I'm just here. Right. I don't know if you guys are aware. I'm not. I don't know if you know there's aware that there are things going on here in Minneapolis at the time. to be covered. Thank you, Laura Stiles. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Hold on to your speakers. Hold on to your speakers. Yo, guys, you know what I was speaking? Yo, we're doing a long show today, just so y'all, just so y'all know. Hit them off on a Thursday. You know what I mean? Hit you off with that long, that long from downtown.

Back to Clay. Yo, like Clay Thompson. What were you saying, Laura? I was just saying that I was reading you, how CNN sends you like, oh, top five stories. there's this one story that's moving right now about how the government is trying to pressure banks okay to give personal information

on anybody who has a bank account to target undocumented folks like they're trying can I hold can I want up you Laura Stouse please please go ahead pull up my where is it where is the title of it

um oh here we go Pentagon pressuring Anthropic Aaron Parnas. Remember I told you guys to start using Claude? Remember I told you guys that that AI was backed by a company called Anthropic of people who left open AI and wanted to do something responsible? Well, the Pentagon, that's right.

Pete Hagueceth, the whole Defense Department of Defense is going after Anthropic now. Here's the story. Pete Higset, the Secretary of Defense, is pressuring Anthropic and AI company to allow the Secretary of Defense to use Anthropics products to conduct mass domestic surveillance of American citizens, along with, quote, kinetic autonomous operations without human oversight, essentially killing people on the battlefield without any human oversight. And according to Fox News, if they don't agree to this, then Hexeth and the Defense Department could censure them or label them a supply chain threat.

This is from Jennifer Griffin today. She says that Secretary Hexeth gave the head of Anthropic and Ultimatum. ultimatum essentially would require the Pentagon to be allowed to use Anthropics AI model for mass domestic surveillance and kinetic autonomous operations without human oversight or face censure and label supply chain threat. Now right now, Anthropic has two stipulations. The first is that it would never be used for autonomous kinetic operations. Essentially, Anthropic right now requires human oversight when they use AI models to kill things for safety reasons. Because otherwise, the model could lose control and automatically start killing large groups without humans in the kill chain.

Second, anthropic bars its model from being used for mass domestic surveillance. Hexeth wants these restrictions lifted. These are the most evil people in human history. Literally, they will, if they continue to get to do this, we will be George Orwell, robots killing people. They don't give a shit. No, no, nope. They don't care. I don't even know what their end game is.

Like, is it just money? Like, I don't even know what your- No, it's control, too. So, Pete, it's control. But it's not enough to be able to use these things, but they have to be able to use it in the most dangerous way as humanly possible. Well, and dictate to the creator of the thing, how it's being used. And they're saying, we know we created it.

You can't use it this way. And they're saying, lift that. We don't care. These are the most evil. Or you're labeled a supply chain threat. What does that mean? Supply chain threat. needed in the supply chain? What do you mean supply chain?

Supply chain of what? Let's have our Googles. Supply chain threat. These people, man. Supply chain threats include cyber attacks, geopolitical instability, natural disasters and economic shifts. With attacks increasing over 2,600%

since 2018 major risks include but are not limited to ransomware, supplier fraud, data breaches, labor shortages, which can cripple operations, halt production, and cause significant financial loss. So I guess they're saying, we'll label you as one of these if you don't capitulate, which I guess would then allow them to shut them down, right?

Because wouldn't any of those things I just rattled off, you would think that the government and this alcoholic, abusive Fox News weekend host. Yes. Is going to be allowed to be the one who decides that drones can essentially just start killing people willy-nilly without any. control. One, it's also what he's being told to do. Don't act like he's moving autonomously. Well,

then back to the word autonomous. I just wanted to use it again. Where is this? But who do you think cares about this? Stephen Miller? Yeah. And Stephen Miller probably. Absolutely. They want eyes on everything. Bro, we have concentration camps in the United States right now. Are you guys not

processing that? I mean, I guess you're right. Why should we be surprised? Have you seen? The shove of people in camp? Have you seen the Alabama? jail videos? No. Oh my God, I have.

Ibrough, why did you even bring that? Because it's happening in your country. It's in the United States of America. They're abusing people in jail. What do I mean? Pick a version. Pick a version. I don't know.

I don't know. A starving man on a floor without clothes in just a wrecked room with no furniture just on the floor dying in front of your eyes. And other inmates are filming it like, yo help us bro people cops standing around beating a man in the yard while people are like snuck phones in and they're filming it and trying to get it out to people and get the video out that they are being just abused in jail we're supposed to be humane by the way which is why i'm

bringing it up because most people be like there are people who are like yo they're in jail oh yeah i mean the crowd you know the marketing to people who haven't been in jail before those who have been in jail or know about jail would be like yo this has been going on long time. And when I saw it, I was like, okay, now do Louisiana, now do Mississippi, do Kentucky, do Arkansas. I'm telling you, go to all these states, these red states that make money on the private prison system and keeping black people in the most, in living in squalor. Go look. You have been lied to about what your country is doing and it is not humane by any far stretch of imagination. But is it rehabilitated? Yeah, you're right. No, it's crazy. I.

And so, you know, this is a time for people to wake up. I know they're telling you don't be woke, but wake up. Well, and does this unfortunately come back around to midterms and the next election? That's all you got. That's all you got. What other tools you got, man? That's the only tools you have as a regular person is to vote. And the likely in the, and these.

Unless you're like these people in the comments who are like, yo, we need to get our guns. You don't have enough money. Or guns. You don't have enough guns and you don't have enough money. So all that tough talk is meaningless. And enough people who are willing to do that. Well, and by the way, like my dad always used to say, everybody's going to turn their backs on you when their refrigerator is bare and their power runs out.

Right. If you can't keep food in people's fridge, they can only protest so long. At some point, they're just falling down. What are they going to do? What am I going to do? We don't grow our own food. You're going to have to go to the store. You're going to need some money.

This is another one of those. No, I really have to move episodes. Because I feel guilty. It makes me feel bad to be here. But I know I can't do anything. I'm just being honest. No, you can't. We can get up here and yap until they stop letting us do that.

And then I just want everyone to be clear. I will be brave about my opinions until it really seems. like they're going to show up. And then we'll do some secret, there'll be some secret chat. You've got to find us on the dark web. I don't know. But now I have a daughter.

I'm not risk. So ultimately we're all selfish, right? We have to protect our own, the ones in our home. That's why I just said. That's why my dad said people going to rock with you. Until. So then where do we go? We're just going to stay here and hope it doesn't make it to you?

You said Germany's taking people, right? Germany's asking for some positive folks to pull up. I think we're positive. Can we make a nice impression? But listen, as much as racism is illegal, I was going to get, have you guys seen the lady who got arrested in Brazil for calling the people that work at the bar? The monkeys saw that. I don't know if we have time to get to that clip, but you can research it on his own jazz.

Shout to my lady jazz. She gave it to me. Now they arrested her? They arrested her and she sucks. You know, Argentina. Y'all are getting a bad rap. She's Argentinian. I know.

Argentina just keeps catching it, bro. No, they're racist everywhere. You're getting a bad rap. Welcome. Well, no, no, no. I'm just saying, like, I thought I was, like, one of the few people who knew that Argentina was, like, outside of, like, Nazi Germany. It was, like, then Argentina. Well, a lot of Nazis went there.

Yeah. But obviously, I've known wonderful Argentinian people. Yeah. But it's bad. But the stories are, it's not good. No. Does this woman do in the... But even they will tell you.

Bro, yeah, of course they will. I mean, it's just like America. I mean, same as everything. But this video is insane. This is not look good. And I like that they arrest her in Brazil. Brazil. Well, now she's got to wear an ankle monitor and stay in Brazil

until her thing she came and go home. Oh, man, you effed up. Hit the button. You wanted to do all kinds of monkey sounds. And now you got an ankle monitor. You thought you were, you know, she had the most smuggest face after her. She was like, I just came up with a good one. Oh, run it.

Run it while. I got to see it now. You got to see her stupid. You got in a long episode today. This 29-year-old female from Argentina named Augustina Paises, was visiting Rio de Janeiro in January. She was at a bar with friends. And I guess they were drinking, having a good old time.

The tab came by. She was in disagreement with the amount. I guess she was being charged. A dispute ended up happening. She exited the establishment. And then proceeded to do monkey noises, basically calling the staff monkeys, which is considered racism.

And so she thought she was going to get away with it. Everything was going to be cool. This ain't Argentina. No problem. Bitch. Psych. Brazil said, hell now.

We ain't standing for that. No. And they got her ass, they arrested her. And then on top of that, they released her on an ankle bracelet. And she has to remain in Brazil for the duration of time until they sentence her. And she could be sentenced to two to five years of imprisonment. Okay? So Brazil does not.

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I'm wearing the jersey. You're about to... That is, listen, Brazil has its... I love Brazil. Has its share of racial problems as well.

Yep. They have... They, of course, have Lula went back in power. Bolsonaro. is getting, they're trying to get Bolsonaro to jail. I think he was convicted. I thought he was, yeah.

Like, they are, the only difference between Brazil and the U.S. is that they are actually really fighting hard against the bad. Yeah. Like, against the right wing, conservative, like cutting down the rainforests to just make more farmland to have more cows. Yeah, and the new right wing lady who's, I think, come after Bolsonaro, she's just as bad. Like, they're just fighting back as hard as they can.

But I didn't know that they had that in place. That is. Yeah, I didn't know racism. was illegal. No, I love that, though. I love that. Yes. Because why? Why does that need to qualify his freedom of speech? Why does attacking people verbally for things that they can't do anything about, your race, your religion, your gender, your, why should, a disability, that should be a crime. Why, that should be a hate crime. That's what it is. It's a hate crime. It is. Good Brazil. Go Brazil. Go Brazil. I love Brazil. The best.

You know, and on top of it. Rosenberg gets into this Portuguese bag. She just didn't want to pay her. tab. Yo, and that's the ill part. Now, people, people go right to it. They love it.

They can't help it. It's right. I wish I loved something as much as racists love racism. I really wish I love something as much as a racist loves their racism.

It is sitting on their mind every day. Something bad happens. They're like, oh man, you know, I got to say the end word today. I really wish there's nothing I'm that passionate about.

Like, honest, not even sex, not even food. Like, I like things, but not enough where every minute when the day goes wrong, you go, you know what? I got to say that. Is there a world that we're approaching right now

after Tourette's Gate this week, where you have people claiming they have Tourette's when they don't? Just so they can just blurt. That has to have already happened. Right? I don't know. It just hit me this week when we were having a conversation. I was like,

somebody's about to start, be on the verge of getting their ass with. Oh, no, I know. And they're going to be like, I have Tourette's. I have a great clip I'm going to post to echo. of this. You ever seen what about Bob? I don't remember Bill Murray in like the opening scene. Oh, I have seen what about Bob? He goes to see Richard

Dreyfus for the first time and he's crazy and he's just starts saying he's like are you aware of what Tourette syndrome is? Because he's a hypochondriac so he thinks he has everything. So he says to Richard Dreyfus he's like you're where I have Tourette syndrome and he's like you mean the involuntary and as Dreyfus is saying he's like

Cocksucker motherfucker and he just starts screaming and then he like and then he's like what are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you doing this? that. And he's like, well, if I pretend to have it, then I can't have it. You know, I'm going to post that. That's about to be what everyone's doing. It's just making it. Nah, Turet. We're still doing a guru? This is crazy, bro.

How long we've been on now? A long time. The circle of life. What, what, Lou? What time at 11 we'll get to it until Ron will be on with him. Let's go. Let's get to the guru. I got to go. It's crazy.

All right. We got to stop missing the guru, guys. I know everybody got a longer episode today, Laura. Everybody got a longer episode today, but we got to stop missing the guru. And I'll take blame for it. Yeah, it's your phone. I agree. The original gurus, as Laura just said, at gmail.com.

Please send your emails as Laura Stiles burns some Brooklyn Sage today. as she's stuck in her home studio. Thank you. Send your emails. We're running low. The original gurus at gmail.com. Gurus, very long story with so many details, but I'll make it concise. My partner and I have rented an apartment for multiple years.

We are not happy with it, but due to cost, having pets, the housing market, and both of our jobs, being an hour commute in the opposite direction, we have limited options. Throughout the years, we've experienced leaks, extended periods without heat and hot water, carbon monoxide leaks, just to name a few incidents. I actually had to be evacuated in the middle of the night for deathly levels of carbon monoxide, which still caused me anxiety. Our ceiling leaked years ago and continues every winter in the same spot, and landlord has yet to repair it. I'm talking buckets on the floor for weeks type of leak. In addition to multiple other leaks from his negligence that have destroyed our ceiling and floor, on top of everything, this man is downright rude and consistently tells us he does not owe us any courtesy, despite being his longest tenants, and have never been late with rent.

We've had multiple arguments where he usually promises repairs and never follows through or only fixes minor issues. I know Rosenberg recently went through some issues. I mean, my G. Not like that. So hoping he has some insight. My questions are, what steps can you take to demand repairs? And two, is it even worth it? My partner and I are torn between contacting a lawyer or whatever entity deals with housing issues to hold them accountable for repairs and negligence.

Or do we just burn it down, say F it and find the first place we can, even if the cost and commute are burdensome. A part of me just wants to leave, but I also don't want the next person to deal with the same thing. I know he wants us to leave and would actually make appropriate repairs. Also, I want this man to be held accountable for the years of negligence, but is it worth the mental cause? I appreciate you all. I've listened to you for years. We continue to do so. Yo, my man, you're telling me you can get out and what is keeping you there is A, you're concerned for future tenants, or B, wanting to hold this man accountable?

It That wasn't That was way too quiet Congratulations You plagued yourself You said buckets of water On the floor You said carbon monoxide

Poisoning sent you to the hospital If you have the means To leave Like meaning you could find a place It might be 15 minutes further Or it might be slightly more expensive But you can Leave

What Ebro? Am I crazy? What are we talking about? Laura? They're allowed to leave leave. Well, I think also, you know, in some regard here, you need to go see a city council person also. You have a... While you're setting up to leave.

Yeah, while you're setting up to leave. You need to take the documentation of being in the hospital. You need to take the pictures of the buckets and all the things. I'm sure you've taken some, I assume. Anything that you have a receipt for that you've had to deal with, you need to take that. And you also, if you live in a building, connect with other tenants. You have to have a political representation in an air. area that you live in and you need to go talk to them about what's going on.

You also maybe need to reach out to local media. What town is this? Did they say? He didn't say the town. But there's also a world where you can get a lawyer. We got some, someone wrote into the gurus and they do this sort of work for people. Remember we got that guru and they were saying, you can get a tenant lawyer. You get a tenant lawyer.

But you will spend money. But the problem is you will spend money and it's very hard to win. So I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying the things that he's describing are so bad that I would, the sooner you can vacate the better. Yeah. And then I think you can still deal with it. Because the thing that I was concerned with, and again, respectfully, yo, my apartment sounds fantastic relative to what's going on here. So my situation was I was worried I couldn't leave and that they would then sue me. And if you're saying he wants you to leave,

anything you want to do, I think you should do on your way out the door and as you're gone. But this is about safety for you and your health. Your partner and your pets, your pets, you don't even want your pets walking around. There's nasty leak water coming down. You know, they're going to drink it all up. Nah, you've got to get out of there, bro. That sounds horrible.

Find a tenant lawyer. Know that you're going to have to spend money to do so. It's nice that you care about the next tenants and anything you could do to try to do something moving forward with like Ibro said local politics or whatever but you got to get up out of there so says the slum lord guru i don't want that nickname i mean listen you're having a unique experience no but it makes it sound like i'm a slum lord and the guru oh right right right so how what would we call you then the slum lord expert guru oh man it doesn't have the same ring to it you just want to go

a slum lord how about just the slum lord laur stowse lord lord's is pissed y'all she had a tough week due to the snow and then she had that she hates not being in studio. No, the Riverside's going crazy today. So she was with us. What would you like to say, Laura Stoutes? I don't think she can. I don't think she can. Yes. Hates it. You know, how things have changed? I'm upset. Hates not being in the studio because we have a nice studio.

That's why I was off. Yeah, I know. Hates not being in studio because we have a nice studio. Well, but I also will say this. Love not being in the studio when we had a terrible studio. I will say this though, but we did have the tech better down then. We got to get we got to figure out what's going on with this Riverside's situation. But guess what? We got plans. We're working on. We got plans. You did your best, Laura.

You got to be a part of the program's the last couple of days. The program. The snow's been crazy. Hopefully we're done with it. I think we are. I think the weekend is looking like lots of 40s, so things may melt. All right. Great. Which is nice. And if we catch a rain next week, snow could be gone. Well, either way, it's a big, it's a big Fought Friday tomorrow. Big Fought Friday. In the stew. Make sure you send your emails. Ebrolaura Rosenberg at Gmail.

fought Friday, Family Matters tomorrow. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the Patreon this week. We'll have a merch update next week because the weather will hopefully open up for us to start moving this merch out the door. And we may have a new announcement of some merch that Rosenberg and his design team have put together.

You know what we never got to today? Your trailer. We did so much today. We never even got, we did all this stuff, never got to your podcast trailer. And I said at the top of the show we would. Oh, man. Hit us with the board.

We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Congratulations. You played yourself. That's, Rosembourg's not even ready for y'all to know about. Let's be honest. Exactly. That's why I'm not mad. Don't call in a podcast.