The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 45.) Friday Freedom, Family Matters, and the Continued Epstein Saga (2/27/26)

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

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Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro-Lara Rosenberg show. Yeah, man. Friday, the first one. It's all about the friends of the show on Friday. There's freedom. There's... What else happens?

Family matter. Freedom. Family. It's like a MAGA show. Freedom, family, and the Second Amendment. That's right. Bring our goods to this show on Friday. I brought my guns, gun shoot.

Oh, Friday. God bless it. Listen, it's been a busy week of shenanigans. From Tourette's to 50-cent and TI to what else did we get into this week? Snow debacle. Oh, yeah, you state of the Union. Yeah. U.S. hockey.

A lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. I got to go to Chicago tonight. Chicago. What are you going out there for? I mean, who doesn't want to go to Chicago in February? Yo, you may not make it on. It's WWE's Elimination Chamber

is at the United Center Tomorrow night First time at the United Center In like 30 some years Wow They always play the Allstate Arena Which is the one further out But they're back in the United Center

So should be dope As we get on the path to WrestleMania This is the last event before WrestleMania So God bless I'll make back from freezing cold Chicago You gotta layer up Like you gotta put on some tights under you

I gotta find out if we're outside for this show What? Oh my God If we're outside, no, we might be outside. Chicago is no joke, bro. See what they're saying about this. No, Chicago, it cuts. If you got to wear a suit or whatever outside, you definitely need to have multiple layers.

Yeah, you better get yourself one of those, you know, those electric socks? Electric socks. No, it works. You know they have electric shirt, bottom, socks, vests, all that. I have electric socks I wear when I'm cycling when it's really, really cold. Wow, crazy thing is today it's supposed to be in the 50s in Chicago. Okay, not bad. Tomorrow the high is 40

They don't want that It's going backwards It's going the wrong way And you got that lake effect snow Sometimes they just get snow because of the lake It does have a little snowflake here Just because Just because the lakes

Detroit doesn't Detroit get lake effect Or is that Buffalo? Buffalo definitely does Buffalo definitely get Lake Erie Just look at you All right ladies and gentlemen You can email

ELR show at Gmail Or Ebro Laura Rosenberg At Gmail That's how you get your Freedom Friday emails in And we also want to get to our family matters. A lot of family time this week. We were at the Salasi second B-day, Swaree.

Big. You know what I'm saying? The extravaganza. Elmo pulled up. You know what I mean? If you didn't catch earlier shows this week, Rassan, do you keep those clips on stash? You don't have that one.

Elmo, Abby, it was fine. Elmo and Abby pulling up. The Elmo. Elmo. Elmo. It was fun. It was good time. That was speaking of Family Matters,

I look over at my, when everyone's chanting over, Alma, all of a sudden I just hear a big Elmo chant break out. And I look over and I already know what's happened. I already know what's happened. And I look over and my wife looks back at me and she goes, I started this. She did. And I go, of course, she's the biggest chanter.

She loves to hype people up. But she'll just in a situation if you're, like, you're not sure what you want to do. She'll just start chanting your name and see what happens. And Elmo started. By the way, I heard her do it. multiple times. She did it for Salasi. She did it for Elmo. And then I heard

her do it another time for something. Just trying to get it going. Just trying to get it going. But Elmo, you know, got to give Elmo credit. He didn't hesitate when the chant came. He started hitting him. Elmo was ready. I'll save it for Family Matters, right? Why? Well, no, because we have a clip to play. But unless you want to do Family Matters

right at the game. Let's get to Family Matters out of the game. Why not? Why not? We're breaking it up. This is bad. No one tells us what to do. I mean, that's why we got fire. We would have just listened What we was being told to do We still be stuck over

That's why we got blocked That's why we got blocked on Instagram We haven't talked about that really Have we not Unfollowed and blocked It's crazy But what? I don't understand

I do No no no I don't understand why now Like all of a sudden I don't know What that Abadabababababababababababababab It's a baby

Gaping It's a bang And it is family matters. First things first, we got video of over possessive Kenza. So if you've been listening to the show and if you listen to Patreon, if you listen to Patreon, you might hear that Kenza loves babies and she's very excited about cousin Maya. This is the only baby around right now.

She's the only baby smoking right now. I mean, listen, Salasi is still a baby. But Maya is a smaller, you know, flintzzi. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because the Lazzazzhi's definitely still a baby too, but, but Maya's one. Yeah. And so Kenza, when she sees her, her eyes lock in.

It's like, it's like me at the buffet. You know what I mean? Like she's ready. And so this was a video that, do you caught, I think you filmed this or you or Natalie caught this? Yeah, I think we, I think this is Natalie's, but I had a different angle. Okay, this is, this is from the party. This is, look how crazy Kenza is about Maya right here.

Yo, this high school's prom. Hold her in, Maya's looking back like, yo, there's 90s and something. You know, she's a little. Personal space, my je. Yo, the, just comfortably holding someone like this. She wants to hold her like a baby. She tells me. I wouldn't hold her like a baby like this.

She gave me one of her dolls. And I was like, she's not that little. I was like, she wants to stand up and be independent. I'm sorry. It's not just, Kenza. Little kids, they love to ask to hold the baby. Yeah. And we're like, but you're.

still little. A baby. It's not a toy. Yeah, like you can't, we could set up a situation where it seems like you're holding the baby. Yes, yes. But you're not lifting this baby up. Like, you can't, you can't even do it. Yeah, yeah. Because I have a picture of Isa holding Kensa and Kenza looks like a doll, but Isa was sitting on the couch. Like you're supposed to do it. That's how you do it. So Issa was at least five or six over it. Yes.

That's around the same time as him. So I think, yeah. You got to sit them. So if you sit down, we can, We can do it. Yeah. But I don't remember I don't remember Issa hovering over a baby like that. Well, Issa was different. Issa's angle was, all right, this baby's cool. But like, hold up.

Remember? Don't come in my room. Yeah, facts. Give me my space. To the house. That was the first time I ever seen Issa close her door. It was so funny seeing Issa be like, oh my God, this is what an annoying little sister is going to be like. Yo, Issa was like, yeah, you go over there.

Close the door. Has Is Is Is the age gap now so. big that she doesn't get annoyed at all with anything Salasi or are there moments when you can see she's having a like, definitely moments. There are moments? Definitely moments. But he's a super patient.

And Salasi's also not always on it. Right? Sometimes she's just gently playing her piano. Or Salasi's just in her own world doing her own thing. There's that initial when they haven't seen each other for a long time that Salasi's just

on her heels, running to her room. Issa, Iita, Iita, eata, eata, eata. Like constant, you, it's just won't stop. And then by like day two or three, they kind of, you know,

Salasi starts to chill. But there's also times when Issa like, can I have a hug, Salasi? No. No. Stop. Stop.

Giving Issa the boat. No, listen, jazz posted this really beautiful, like a little montage. No, it was the best of. It was the best of the last Salasi's life. But what about Salasi's saying no pictures.

Oh no, ran, ran jazz down. With, looking straight and like, mom, no pictures. I was like, oh, my God. Like she's northwest. Yeah, like, well, listen, by the way, the amount of cameras that are in Salasi's face. I get it. Because, I mean, jazz is a mom with a camera.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it doesn't slow down. Yeah, yeah. No, it's at two, it's still going. Well, the mom thing is still like you're incessant with the camera. you know at least what you probably didn't let up on kinsa and ricardo you guys were heavy photos heavy post you guys have even slowed down on kinsa post yeah i mean i still take photos but i just kind of keep them for myself yeah i mean but the first couple years everything's so new and

she's always in a new phase there's like the teeth look different well and you're trying to catch first yeah that's really what it is you're trying to catch first without them looking and them doing a thing without them knowing and you're getting that pure moment because then when you ask them do it again you can't recreate. Did you see the story I put up the other day of her with the pancake?

Of Maya with the pancake? No. So you should have sent it in for Family Matters. We're slipping. We're telling us we could have sent all this stuff in and it's going to be great. Tomping. You didn't?

Yo, but my favorite, let me have it as a separate video, but my favorite thing about it is that when she catches me laughing so I start laughing because she's just being funny and then once she sees that she's making me laugh she looks up and gets like so happy

I do sometimes worry that she has the bug of we play this clapping game with her yeah she loves she starts clapping we start clapping she stops clapping we stop clapping uh huh yo my dad my dad did it we were at guappos back in

Bethesda last week and my dad was like let's all clap when she claps and when she stops stop and we're like all right she starts doing it and that Once it got going, and she was like, wait, you people do whatever I want. It was hilarious. And then I was like, oh, no, but now she's got the bug. It's fun when people clap.

That's right. Yeah, yeah. She'll get over it and get bored in a week or more. Yeah, and get into the next. Whatever the next thing is to pull you guys and manipulate you guys into whatever she wants. We're not fully, like we're still just easing our way into the manipulation. No, you're in it. It's now already.

You just don't even realize it's happening. How disrespectful, by the way, is the swatting of food? Like, why when you decide you're done? You just ate 30 pieces of macaroni. Now I dropped like seven more, and now you decide that you have to smash it and throw it and just get flipped a plate over. But just say you're done. Yeah. She can't yet.

She hasn't put that together. Well, just be like, eat and shake your head. Salasi just maybe five months ago got to I done Like she knew it And we would work on it Are you done? All done? All done?

I say all done currently You keep working Oh yeah that right there This hand thing all done You work on it You work on it They just got to connect You gotta stay on it

And you say But the flipping of the plate Or just knocking something over There's a year about to end We had a big night This week with the All Done Because we had Watermelon

Slices And she was having a lot of fun And picking them up And then she'd put one down And pick up another one And keep going And then I thought she was done and I would pick up the plate and I'd go all done. And she would go, that's good.

And then she would take, just keep doing it. But this lasted for like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 10 minutes. That's fine. I'm like, you're done though. Listen, the mess. She's sticking her finger in the middle of it. I'm not done.

I'm not done. Yeah, you asked the question. You asked me, did you ask me if I was done or was I done eating? Right, right. No, I made me done eating. I'm not done playing with a spoof. Yeah, that's right. But just get ready.

Look, I used to take Kenza out. You know, me and Ricardo were always out. We have these plastic like, little squares that we would tape to the table and she would just eat off of it. And it's a mess and it's a mess. And listen, I would just get ready to tip extra for that mess. So last weekend we went to brunch. There's an Israeli place in our neighborhood.

It's the one, I would say the best thing about our neighborhood, which I'm constantly issuing on, is this Israeli restaurant that is slapping. Great brunch, great, just general Mediterranean food, fire. And last Sunday we went and it was the first. time where she was grabbing every plate. That was the first time. Here we go. Up till now, she would sit at the table, wait for food, maybe, you know, maybe complain, do whatever, but not grab. Now it's anytime food is in. That's right. Bread basket, grab, plate grab. Silverware, everything, got to move it away. And so it makes the, it does make the eating

more complicated. That's right. Because you have to now keep your food away from her and be feeding her as you're eating while keep instances. Well, also you got to bring stuff. activities or stuff that she can grab right so like maybe like we have a little that we have that little gadget that just has like lots of buttons and plays little quiet sounds for her and then you're about to get in an iPad mode where you just busted out and say watch this Miss Rachel that's right yeah yeah trying to put that iPad on the table

you guys did a good job utilizing the iPad but also not having it become an obsession right you can't have it other than she the only time she can have it is when we're at there's no iPad at home like you don't just get on an iPad. But do, no, no, but what about TV? Like, show, watching one of the shows. Don't know. But, but you, but you save the specific times in which you pull out an iPad or phone to watch a thing. Yeah. Well, that's only like if we're at a restaurant, we got to keep her, you know, from destroying everyone's good time. Got it. That's when you. And we usually try to wait like 30 to 40 minutes because we're like, all right, we sat down. We can only be here for an hour and a half. We're only going to last hour now.

Tops. Tops. So the first 30, we're going to try to entertainer. We're going to try to get some bread to the table. She can snack on and keep her busy. She's going to be grabbing water, doing whatever she's doing. Then she's going to get over that. Then she's going to want to get up around the time she wants to get out of her seat. Now we've got to go iPad. Right. Because the one thing I want to avoid is I'm hearing my friend is staying with his family right now that has four kids.

They range from like 12 to four or whatever. He said at one point he looked over every one of the kids is just scrolling. Scroll. Yeah. You just hear different. scrolling through what? YouTube shorts or... Nah, you can't have that.

At home? At home. No, you can't have that. It's happening. You got to just try your best not to do it at home. That's what I try. How do we, how do we... I just want to keep her off of YouTube as of anything

except we watch a show. Like, we can watch a show. But the idea that you're going to be on a thing... Yeah, but how would she choose if all she has is the TV? Right. Then she wouldn't. Or you could do like Disney Plus or something where it's only movies. You could do that.

But you got to, but you also, They're watching you on your phone. Right. So you have to put your phone down, parents. So they don't see it. And watch with them. The same show for the 1,000th time. Otherwise, they're going to see you scrolling and think that's what looks fun.

It's scrolling. Yeah, give me your phone or I want to do it too. And you're going to do it. It's going to happen. You're not going to be perfect, right? Because you're going to be returning a work email or you're going to be texting with a family member or whatever you're going to be doing. But you do have to.

If you want your kids to not do something, you've got to not do something. It's called sacrifice. It's called parenting. Whoa. It's crazy. And you're going to fail. And it's tiring. But you got to keep trying.

Yo, where's the best of? Salasi, let me get that. See if he has it. I sent him Maya with the pancake, too. Wanted both of those. All right. You are my sunshine. My only sunshine.

You make me happy in every way. You'll always know. Dear how much I love you You're my sun shine every single day You change the lyric right one two You know my son Joe like it like the other layer what is how does it really? Well I will discuss it after this This little kid

It's tough around 16 6 6 2 You have two cookies No, I don't have any cookies. This is all that's left. What should we do? So sweet.

Stand next to grandma. Say cheese. Say cheese. Grandma's popping. I can't see your face. The balloon. Oh. You're in the racket?

That's grandma. Is this fun? Yeah. What do you want to say? A little ride in the basket. You said, thank you. You're welcome, my love. There you're a little foot.

That's a little foot. get me what she really was trying to like I'm gonna get you I'm gonna get you know Posing with your sister let's see post Okay another pose which pose is pose Nice pose Oh cute pose Thank you so much for my team

Are you having some tea as well Wait wait Some boots she likes She's an Abby Elmo boots and somebody got it They're for in the house boots She loves her boots This is crazy how cool Kids start so early on the scooter.

I used to look at it. We're going to see. Natalie saw this. She was like, where is this Bumblebee place? We need to do the whole class that she goes to once or twice a week. And they have all these different activities. Now, the plot twist is, I think it's in like Korean. So she's the only black kid in there, but they'd be showing up.

Wait. The whole thing's in Korean? I think they speak English sometimes, but there's a lot of Korean kids there. Are you having your first? refreshing beverage. Yeah. Are you wrapped like a burrito? Yeah?

Like a baby burrito? Yeah. Here we go. Okay. I just wanted to... No! No! I just wanted to hear you sick.

She's done. How old are you? What is she doing? What's happening? How old are you? No, she is the loungiest kids since birth. Okay, good thing. She would sit with her legs and feet crossed like Rosenberg.

It's like Rosenberg. Yo, I like this. There's a video. Nah. Salasi is the loudiest child. I love it. Yay. Be comfortable.

And then this is just a highlight of the whole birthday, Elmo, little situation. Happy birthday, Salasi. Two years old. Tuesday. You're in it. Who is two in it, man. Shout to her mom, man. Shalasi's mom is just, I mean, look at it.

From the dress to the details of the party. to the video. She made the video. A kid has a good life. The mom's doing work. Love it. Look at the kids in the building. All the kiddies.

Abby Cadabby, a little legend popping. You know what I'm saying? She wasn't really checking for Abby that tough. She was checking for Elmo. I don't think Abby was really nailing the Abby. Hey, pop. Ah, ah, bounce. Yo, this is a full documentary.

Yeah, it is. We just watched the Salasi documentary on Netflix. The Lassey two years of Life. 52 years Netflix. It is. You, by the way, I already watched

that literal the entire thing yesterday. I sat back and at the same thought at the end. I'm like, wow, I really feel like

I experienced this. I know, I know. I know. Do we have Maya with the pancakes? It's family matters, man.

What's you doing? You're just eating a piece of pancake for dinner? That's the leftover pancake from the Israeli, the aforementioned

that looks fun. This is what Bear does. I'm sure all all dogs know about this. I wish she's going to drop, what she's going to drop, B?

lives in this spot. Grabbing crumbs. That table? Right? You have your doggy and eat the crumbs? Okay, whoa, whoa, Bear, look, there you go.

You came up with the bear. Look at the dub. There's like, so you watch, why you're slapping your pancake? What are we doing? That is so cute. You're funny girl.

Yo, her hair, what are we doing? Like, what are we even? No, she's all. out of whack for the next few years. And you got to kind of, well, some cultures, they shaved the head at one year's old. They start fresh. I hate that.

Start fresh. Some cultures, they'll be like, there's one year we start and boom, the hair just all out of whack. It makes it grow thicker, even something. Really? That's a thing? Yeah.

I'm like, I'm not doing all that. I think, I think my friend got into a huge fight with her mother-in-law because her mother-in-law did it without telling her. No, that's crazy. Yes. That is the loosest behavior I've ever heard.

Listen, I would light up the entire. Oh, that would take that recovery would be tough. By the way, guys, if your culture does do the head shaving at one year or whatever, it's not a bad idea. No, no. But you have to ask. You can't just go low. Sure, for sure, but it's also not. Let me tell you how.

Ebroe shaved his head at 50. Exactly. He wanted to start fresh. 36. No, Ebro, you're going to be like, it's just hair. No, you don't do that. No, you're right. But it's also just hair.

Right. But you can't just show up. If I showed up and the baby was bald, I bet. No, no. Your mother and a lot of people are back to you. Moms are going to war over. Moms are going to war. And some dads, I'm sure, too.

Like, but it is, it is just here. And are we done with Family Matter? Yes, yes. Yeah, it's just a light. Easy one. Thank you. Can we replace this, Scrip? What do we do?

We still got the bootleg joint. It's just, it's like new Family Matters remix. Did you send me a new one? Family Matters. DJJ. Jop! Choo! Family Matters.

I wish I could have showed you guys. Ken's on stage, but other kids. Oh, yeah. Other kids. Oh, yeah, you can't. That was loose with me putting up the documentary. I was worried about that. Hey, they're kind of in there.

Yeah. But they came to your party, so. Yeah. I didn't have a sign-up that said this party might be true. Then you might be on the ELR show, though. So this is your new thing. You play the intro as the outro now for everything we do? I just start doing it.

It kind of sounds good. Don't lie. It's good separation. It is. It is good separation. It's good separation. start a new topic. I mean, if I did it, he'd be like,

yo, what Rosa, bro? You should be making a mixtape over there? That's not true. You're making a mixtape? Try, drop joints. What you're saying is true. All right, what you want to do? You want to start up with some voice notes?

We've got to get to Freedom Friday time on the ELR show. Please subscribe, like, and do all the things. The algorithm likes to let us other people know we're going. And also subscribe to the Patreon if you're so financially inclined. You can find it on the Patreon app. Fresh episode this week. The ELR show. And it's ELR unfiltered.

Is the official title of the Unleashed? Is it unleashed or unfiltered? I don't know. I think we should do I think we should do emails first to this. Emails first. All right.

Let's get to it. Go ahead, Laura Staff. I'll start with one. This is from Ilana. Good morning family on December 31st. My mom passed away. And I used to call her every single day on my way home from work.

And the hardest part is losing, the hardest part of losing her has not having those daily phone calls. But right around that time, You all started your new YouTube show. Without even thinking about it, I began logging on and listening on demand, 30 minutes on my commute there and 30 minutes on my commute home. What used to be the most difficult part of my day has now become something I look forward to. Amazing.

Your impact goes far beyond just talking. You've helped me get regulated, grounded, and calm during one of the hardest periods of my life. That means more than I could put into words. I love you guys. And thank you, Alana. Thank you, Alana. I love this email, Alana, sending you so much love. You know, on a couple of housekeeping notes,

I want to shout out to Cap, who emailed back in February, a longtime podcast listener from Detroit, says he's been listening so long. I feel like I'm a New Yorker with all the info and conversations y'all have, but those convos help me understand what's going on in my area and what to look out for. So love to you, Cap, from the D. Also, Leo, he has a DJ John conspiracy.

Did you guys see this? What is it? It says, this is back early, February though. We have another DJ John conspiracy voice note too. Oh really yeah what's the DJ let's listen to Daniel the DJ John conspiracy let's see what this is all about. What up team is blood in the water you already know what it is man this one goes out to ebro's Yo ebro yes I appreciate the Patreon I'm gonna be a supporter but you know you're telling me you can't talk to Apple can't have them create your studio so you can play jingles and have the rights to play music

Come on, bro. Come on, make it happen. Hey, but on some real talk, I want to rewind the clocks a little bit, man. Play my conspiracy music. Oh, man, we need to be. You remember just a month ago, we were in some holiday cheer,

singing Christmas songs, when DJ John got on the radio and said a certain St. Nick didn't exist. Y'all remember that? Right, right. And that very same week, y'all got fired. Was it the same week? And then Shawnee got his voice back.

You remember that? Yo. What's Johnny talking? Yeah, how dare you? You're wrong to something. Yo, this Leo right here says the same thing. I just want to put it on my 10 hat real quick and get this off my chef. Is it possible?

DJ John knew what was coming and that's why he went rogue on the show. Oh my God. I've been thinking about this for a while because it doesn't make sense any other way. Why else would he choose to implode like that? The man tried to January 6th Santa Claus. That's a crazy way of playing. And all of Christmas. And the next day, management pulled the plug.

Something's not lining up. Could he have gotten insider info? Was it one last act of defiance? As I'm writing this, I'm realizing that will require some level of cohesion in the start process. So hit me with the button. Yo. Congratulations. You played yourself.

One last thing. How is it that you all spent two decades on the radio avoiding fines from the FCC? see and the second you got on YouTube, you turned into George Carlin. Our three-month-old future fots, so we appreciate you cleaning up the language. I'm here for the grown folk language on Patreon, though. Love you guys. Yeah, we do. I did see a bunch of messages, not one or two. I did see a bunch of messages of people saying they're fine with cursing on Patreon. They like the idea of it being a little bit looser.

Yeah, I just feel like it's late. I'm one of those, I guess that's me being an O head, right? Where you just like, for better save than sorry. Mother F and an F word and just because you can. Nah. Like Lane. I think it's more like maybe when I say bullish on this show, we can not say bowlish on Patreon. Yeah. But also, too, I think we've also, as this person put, we've been on the air so long keeping it clean that it's almost second nature when a mic is in front of me to think about keeping things clean.

Yeah. It's kind of built in. What you got over there, Rosenberger? Well, I got a, I'm in a quandary. All right. because I have I have interesting emails here coming for me okay okay and I also have the the woman who wrote the very detailed psychological breakdown of your privilege yes she wrote a follow-up sort of apology email okay I go with that one because it seems like that's a heavy lift

because that lady's wordy her vocabulary's big she's wordy and I'm sure she's got to like lay groundwork then explain then apologize it's like a whole thing all right Tracy He says, dear ELR, specifically Rosenberg and Friends of the Show. Okay. After reflecting on my previous message to Rosenberg and on the feedback from the Fought members, I want to offer a personal and sincere apology to you, Rosenberg, and any newer and long-term supporters of ELR, please accept my apology. My response is rooted in how certain statements landed with me in the moment

without taking Rosenberg's history or context into account. While it's true that the new format limits our listening time together, I should have been more mindful of your past experiences and your lived experience. I recognized that I became caught up in my immediate feelings in judgment, and I take full responsibility for that tone, for the tone that resulted. It was unfair. So the FOT members who felt disappointed or offended by my tone of delivery, I also apologize. I value this community. And it was never my intention to come across as superior, dismissive, or disrespectful.

I'd also like to share a brief context about my writing style. As a black woman who left high school after ninth grade earned a GED while pursuing my education and continues to be mentored with plenty of tough love about how I present myself in professional spaces. I am deeply aware of the scrutiny that often comes with being black in these environments. Because of that reality, I put great care and intention to my written communication. Professional writing is a skill I've honed through the years of being slapped on the wrist, personal growth and discipline. It's not meant to be pretentious or performative. It is simply part of how I've learned to navigate and show up. I remain committed to my accountability and awareness and I acknowledge when the impact of my words outweighs my intended message.

I find it amazing that Tracy took on all. All of the things that she was asking for me to do, essentially. That's like the definition of putting your money where your mouth is. She's saying like, hey, we just need you to be, and I wasn't offended by her message, by the way. But I want you, Rosenberg, to be hyper aware of who you are, where you are, what you bring to the table when you speak, and try your best to avoid the blind spots that you have. And she actually just then did that for herself. That's right.

That's very rare. We are growing and learning together as a family. We got a lot of smart people out there. We got a lot of smart people out. And if you're, you know, like me and you hear a bunch of words in an email, you're just like, yo, really, lady? Fuck out of here. But that's my inner voice.

And we learned that that's my inner voice. And if I, you don't have Tourette's, though, so you can't just lash out. I can't, right? I have to filter that. Damn it. All right. The privilege. No, but we got a few about me and the Epstein stuff in here.

We'll get to that. After Laura, you guys won't go to a voice note first before Laura goes? Yeah. Sure. This is Jan Zuli. Peace, peace, game. This is Jansley from the A. Yonsal.

I've been checking in and tuning in for years. Big, big, big fight right here, you know what I mean? All right, so I'm going to get to the jips of it. Now, I think you guys should create a segment for smaller artists and independent artists, right? Um, I know how Ebro can be some time. You got to be popping. You got to be doing something. Yard yada yada yada.

Yo, sound like a label head. But anyway, I know you guys get flagged for me. music that's controlled by the labels and whatnot. This is a way where you don't get flag. And I get it. You guys got plans. I understand. I get it cool.

I'm just trying to find a way to support the smaller and independent artists like myself. Of course, I'm going to shamelessly plug myself in there. Youngsley on all platforms, check me out. But outside of that, I think that you guys should like figure out a way to support, you know, younger and smaller artists. Maybe like have artists in their work. You guys tally it down to 10. And they had the Fox tally it down to number five.

And they had the Fox tally down to two. That's a lot of sound that you got people working. The winner gets an interview maybe, you know, like a five-minute interview or something. Maybe a written article of some sort. Written articles. I've got to write an article. Something to push the new artist, new way of an artist, new crapper artists, you know. So just think about that.

Tell me what you think. Checking out. Peace. And tell him, Yanzili said that. Hey, Yonzali, thank you for your voice note. Some good ideas. But I want to pong this back to you, ping it back to you. What do you think people tuning into the ELR show?

What do you think is in it for them, the people who are giving us their free time, for us to expose them to artists that they have never heard of and songs they have never heard of? The double whammy. Not just a song you've never heard of, but an artist you've never heard of. Because sometimes, you know, if I say, hey, here's a new Jay Cole. It's a song you never heard of. Artists. There's a little bit of equity there.

You may give us some time and be a little patient with it. If it's an artist and a song you never heard of, sometimes it's hard to keep people's attention. Hell, keeping Rosenberg's attention with a 45-second clip from a person talking about a subject he actually cares about, but he doesn't know them. He's tuning out. Don't look at me.

It happened yesterday. Let's say it happens all the time. But I just want, I'm pinging that back for, the independent artists and everyone out there. Not saying Janzli's ideas weren't great, but that's something that we have to think about when we're thinking about bringing content to this platform. Well, I think what you're going to get is a couple of things. I think once, first of all, Ebro's already, we already have like Ebro's conversation with Rock Marcy is in our YouTube channel, right? Like there's already things from Ebro's Apple show that's music related you could get.

When I start my new Real Late show, which I'm very close to, I'm going to put the video inside our Ebro Laura Rosenberg channel. There you go. Like, we're going to have ways within the channel and community. But in our main morning show, unless there's like some song that one of us is like, yo, everyone's going to love this song, like the new vibes cartel. Right. Everyone, yo, I really think y'all should hear 30 seconds of this.

I think we can do stuff like that occasionally. If we're confident, it's really a banger. What's that email here too about real late is the issue, something? Yeah, I saw it. But then he goes in, that ends up being a deeper. Yeah, but there was just the headline was real aid is the ish, but anyway, I wanted to why you're bringing up reals late. Yeah, Marlon said that. Yeah.

But he still comes for me. But that's okay. He likes real late, which means that he loves you. You see what I'm saying? It's almost like you're, you're the United States, you're Israel. People who really love you. No. People who really love you are going to critique you.

That is not. They are patriotic. It's called Rosenberg patriotism. I don't like that comp at all. No. You just did. Can we choose another country? All right, but here is the Marlaa message.

He said, what's up, Rosenberg? First off, real latest flames. I've been sitting on this, so he gets that out of the way quick. I've been sitting on this since you spoke on Kai Sinat's million follower milestone. Initially, I wanted to say that since black people don't often get enough positive news, when a young kid accomplishes something amazing, you should just lay out and let him celebrate. I stayed quiet then because I thought I was being oversensitive, but your recent comments have brought those feelings back to the surface. Let me just pause real quick and say, I don't disagree with him on that.

I thought about that afterwards. Like sometimes my old negative, I'm sick of the internet. It's a bad play when really the main thing we're celebrating is that a young black kid from the Bronx is rich now. And he's being positive. And he's doing it without being an a-hole. That's right. Which is what a lot, unlike Aiden Ross and all of these other A-Holes.

That's right. And Sneco and Frico and Nico and all these people. Sorry, not Nico. But you get the idea. Who's Nico? I don't want New York Nico to think we're taking a shot. Wait, that's the only Nico? No, no.

It's out to Nico to come on the program, too I want to interview. Yeah, that'd be good. I'd love to have New York Nico up here. No, we can get them up here. Anyways, so I just want to say real quick, I do agree with you about that Kai Sinat show. I remember it well.

I didn't love my take that day. Hearing your take, President's Day on the best of show regarding how black people should feel about Shibuzi's misstep. I don't know if I said how black people should feel, I think, but whatever. An apology really got under my skin. Then hearing your comments last week, I felt I had to holler at you. Sometimes you just have to sigh bow. We all have blind spots.

I have them regarding women's concerns and Jewish issues. And while I try to stay quiet and listen when others explain their perspectives to me, white people have blind spots when it comes to black culture and feelings. At times you come across almost as arrogant as Andrew Schultz. Yikes. Idiots like him not being able to see how evil Trump is is why he's the president now. Your comments about these freaks eating kids, bro, you got to stop and think before you get all amped up about some of the issue you think. I wasn't even watching the video.

I listen to the podcast. But I get the sense that if you just take a glance at Laura Stiles, you'll know when to stop talking. This is probably unfair. But one, if you're going to be in the black market, you might want to shut your, and listen. Two, welcome to being the minority because bigs always have to do the dance. For the record, I don't think you're racist at all. You just have blind spots that many men, especially white men, fail to recognize. I have love for you, but I'm asking to occasionally step back and listen to black people.

on these topics. Yo, Marlon, I'm sorry, I got to respond to this. Okay. I have to step back and occasionally listen to black people. Are you aware that my profession in life is listening to Ebro? This is literally my profession. But I'm not black people.

I'm just like a black person. And I'm not even black enough for all black people, so I don't know if that count. Okay, but don't say act like I never sit and listen and hear what people are saying. and the comp that he just made between the Kai Sinat thing, which I thought was a valid thing. Like that was me being a white guy with a blind spot. Like, hey, you're not thinking about the fact that black people are excited

because an opportunity like this for a black kid is such a rare thing, right? That is a fair and reasonable thing. Comping that to my skepticism about the deepest, darkest things about the Epstein files and the algorithm is a, in my opinion, you guys tell what you want. I think that's a very rough comp. Well, he's not confident. I don't think he's comfy. I don't think he's calming.

So why do I have to side bow about the Epstein things? How is that a black-white thing? No, no, no, I don't think that. I don't think that's what he's saying here. I think he was saying Saibow about that. But then the Epstein piece is just about you knowing when to not talk. I don't think it's, I don't think both are black. I don't think both are black.

It's about knowing when I need to not talk. That's really worried that. I mean, unfortunately, I have a show that I'm not getting paid for for me to talk on. And I just want to say Marlon and the rest of the people who want Rosenberg to side bow. I don't want him to side bow. It's great content. What are you talking about? What are we doing here?

And it provokes all of us to have emotion towards the program and things, other things that make you agree or disagree. But the Epstein thing is crazy. Y'all are wild and out. No, but see, here's the problem. And I'm glad you jumped straight to that. You were passionate about defending the things that didn't seem never. necessarily valid about the Epstein files, not specifically the Epstein files and what's going on in Fisdine files as a thing, but because we were debating it with emotion, borderline arguing.

I didn't feel that we were really arguing, but people did. But that's the way it was received because there was, you know, we were talking loud and going back and forth for a period of time. They received it as you were basically negating everything that we're hearing about in Epstein files. when really what you were saying is some of the craziest most egregious things when they're not investigated, validated, and from a credible source can send people to a place of like, all of this is craziness, and they start to ignore.

Correct. And it becomes mush instead of just saying, let's pursue at first, at first, let's pursue the most valid, credible things that we have a chance to really be effective on. I'm not ruling out. And then Ebro, you know, he presented really things that made it a really compelling conversation and brings up the history of this country and the horrible things that have been done. And not even this country. Human beings. In the world.

The capacity of human beings to do some of the most evil things that you can imagine to each other. And for the record, those things happened to my people in the Holocaust. I am aware of these things. I know that doesn't mean, though, that because you got a video and your. algorithm where the person went, look at this here, and look at this here, and look at this here, that doesn't mean that it's really trending towards that part is real. It doesn't. And that's not me saying, I think the Epstein files should be of chief importance. And one of the reasons I was so hot about Cash Patel being in the damn locker room is because the fact that he, of all people,

who should be the person who's after this, is sitting there chugging beers with Team USA directly offends me. You can be offended, upset, and distraught about the Epstein files without believing every single video that hits your algorithm, people. Yeah, I think that's fair. That's fair. Some of this started in Q&N. Some of it led to the pizza place in D.C. that those people on the right were sure. That's where Hillary Clinton had the child raped it. Guys, it meets somewhere in the middle, and it's not all true. But it's also not impossible. It's not impossible. Sure. And I think that's where people took our debate. They took it as you were on some,

this didn't happen, and I was on some, it's possible, it could, and I'm not believing. Right. But you also are not going into rooms, just to be clear, Ebro's also not going into rooms on the weekend

when he sees people, pardon me, yo, y'all know they're eating people down there. Well, depends on the party. There's some gatherings. I'm walking right in like, yo, my dude. Yo, they are eating people again. But I think that while people are coming after.

But they never stop. While people are coming after me, and there's another one, I'll just hit this one back to back. I want to say something else, too, about that debate. There was another piece of that conversation where for me, it delved into us thinking because these people were accomplished financially and accomplished politically, that it errs on the side of they likely didn't do it. No, I don't believe that. No, but that's the opposite.

Yeah. People are viewing it. That's the tone of the combo at the time. I hear what you're saying, but to me, the problem with the tone is... I'm telling you how I received it in the moment. That's what I was hearing, which prompted me to go. Because I said it feels unreal, some of these things are unrealistic. And I'm like, why?

No, it's unrealistic because the idea, the idea of the people that are in these rooms wouldn't have been caught up and there wouldn't be... it's not because of who they are that it's impossible, or less likely. It's simply because of how egregious the things are that it would have made it to this many people. And also, how about this? And by the way, they're turning around and going, well, Ebro, you should know your friends are doing it. It's Jay-Z. It's Michael Rubin.

And they're all doing it. So that's the part that really triggers you is it slides into people believing that just because you're wealthy and accomplished, that you are automatically involved. And that is that there are some people who are there. and I get why you would say that. But it also, which is what triggered me, slides into because, and this is why it's confusing and we should have these combos, because you're accomplished,

because you have some sort of scholastic accomplishment, royal accomplishments and whatever, that now it can't be. No, right, right, I hear that. I hear why that would trigger you. Right, you see what I'm saying? And both are, what am I trying to say? Both are possible or not possible.

Yeah. And here's another thing. and I don't know about you guys if you're here. The emails are so crazy. The ones I've seen, and I haven't seen them all. I'm honestly at times like, yo, y'all was doing this on email?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I've slid into that place many times. Where I'm like, wait, is this all a trap? Hold on, that part's so important. And here's the thing. Well, here comes Rosenberg, defending it. Jeffrey Epstein's job. was to professionally ensnare and trap people.

Not every email he said. If you'll notice, some of them he says, they don't reply. That's right. He's just saying like, yo, what about the blah, blah, blah. Because his job was to get people caught up to have it on them. You can tell if you read these emails, and all of you claim, you've read every single one, if you read the emails, you could tell sometimes he's just talking is and trying to get people.

He's trapping people. That's what the job is. So then if we turn around and he knew he was going to be gone, either dead or hiding or whatever? And how about this? And this was going to get red. How about this? They're saying that the reason he even went after Prince Andrew in Britain,

and we played a clip earlier this week, they're saying that he went after him because he knew Prince Andrew was an idiot. And when Prince Andrew was given a job that they give to royals to work in the government to kind of like justify their pay, like because the royals in England, they takes taxpayer dollars. Like they still get money from the taxes pay. So sometimes they make the royal children and people work jobs on some like, yo. You got to earn it in some way.

You got to earn it in some way. And the job that he was on from 2011 to 2016, he blew like $4 million. And that's when he was talking to Epstein. And Epstein went after him during that time because they knew he was a bumbling idiot and ensnared him into the whole messing with kids, man. And that's not you defending and saying that Andrew didn't do anything. No. It's saying that, but he was a specific target by Epstein.

Same way, by the way, the same way that the whole Trump thing there, you know, there's talk of that, that the reason this whole Trump Epstein thing is because Trump's a goddamn idiot. No, I think with Trump, he got in, I think he got halfway in and at some point got hip to, oh my God, I'm getting, I'm getting caught up here. But his instinct was to do it because it's like hot young girls. Well, because they were already on that type of time. That's who they already on that side of five. He's just feeding the beast. But Trump being dumb, but probably slightly less dumb than Andrew when he got into it and was at the parties, at some point might have looked around and been like, oh, oh. But he'd already done it.

He'd already been there. He'd already been partying. And then he made up the whole, I kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago because he was trying to steal the girls who worked there. When really, maybe you were setting him up with the girls who worked there. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know if we're going to find out.

But all of that, the reason we get as heated as y'all are hearing and seeing is because it is a very crazy issue that has basically killed, abused, and taken advantage of the most vulnerable in society, which is young women. And most of them are poor women from poor families if you really do the math on it, right? Then you have the most powerful subverting law, moving around, getting swelioring. sweetheart deals, being elected in the public office right now, and then playing in their voters' faces. Remember, a lot of people are mad right now because Trump, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, swore that this Epstein thing was a part of their campaign. This was a part of their whole elect us. We're going to fix this.

We're going to find this thing out. Which is so insane that they ever did that when they knew they were going to end up. No, that's why they did it. if you really know about this type of movement, the reason they go as hard to say they aren't a thing and they're going to do a thing is because there, how many times have you seen, man, when you look at religious leaders, bro,

and they're judging people's personal lives, how often does it turn out that they're the ones doing the crazy-ish behind the scenes? The ones who act so perfect, the ones who would never, the ones who are judging everyone else, it always comes out that they're the ones actually doing the thing. And they would have got away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids. That's right.

Scooby effing do, man. It's literally, I'm trying to understand this mentality. It would be like me walking around my house being like, yo, I hate hip-hop. No, I just, no, I can't believe, Natalie, there are people who are going into fridges when they have, like, whipped cream, and at night when no one's around, they're grabbing the whipped cream, they're taking the lid off,

and they're just, They're just eating. It's disgusting, these people that they do this. And then get this. At the end, when it's almost empty, they may inhale a little bit like a pathetic loser and get a little high off it, throw it away and go right to bed. She'd be like, wow, that's really descriptive. And specific.

I know. I know. People do this. Wait, did you just tell it? I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. There's not that much whipet left at the end.

because you've already eaten the whole thing. Right. But I've taken that last hit. No, the last hit, though, it will, it is enough to me. It'll send you. Let me go to bed. No, speaking to that, bro, after Salasi's party where we had some beer, man. I can't have beer in the house, man.

I love a beer. I love a cold beer. I don't. Did you go to the hospital? No, it doesn't send me to the hospital. Okay. I just, I can't not drink it. Right.

What kind of beer was it? Oh, you had the Sapporo's? Corona, Sapporo, Sapporo, Stella. You can't have it in your fridge. There's things I don't keep in the house because I just, I'm going to drink it. But like hard out. I got walls of... I'm not drinking tequila.

It's aggressive. That's aggressive. But a beer... A beer is like psychologically, small vacation. Like that Corona commercial where they just show the beach, it worked on me. Full stop. Full stop. That's so true.

Because you're like, oh, it's the end of the day. It's Thursday. Tomorrow's just sit down and have a beer. That's like I'm relaxing. And one? Got to have two. I'm going to have two. Quick 400 calories.

Now I'm so washed. I had two the other night. What was a Monday night? What's the day? Yeah. Monday night. Tuesday night maybe it was. And I was like,

who, two beers. Oh. Especially if you don't have a full stomach? No, I was sitting down eating. Oh. I went out and picked up Ruth Chris before the blizzard hit. Whoa.

You know what I was, you know, you? Okay, okay. That was the move. Classy. Roos Chris. Remember what my man didn't use to have red meat? All right.

Now he's driving by Bruce Chris for a quick stake him. Yeah. Once a week. All right. All right. You've been waiting. You have an email team.

Let me see. This one's from Deserrereight. This is a family matter suggestion. All right. Long time FOTS here. So glad that I'm able to keep hearing and seeing you guys. I've been listening since my mom would put you on the radio while driving me to high school. When I missed the bus, I listened through my college commute to my many, many jobs as I found my career. And now I listen as a new mom of a six-month-old baby.

Congrats. I've watched y'all grow and have grown with you. My favorite segment is definitely Family Matters. It's nice to see and hear the daily struggles and beauty. of parenting. So I have a suggestion. It would be so cool to bring family during family matters.

How about bring your child to work week? Let's hear from the children and or parents' perspective. Seeing the little ones like Kansas Salasi and MJ and the stew would be adorable. And of course, Issa the boss. Anyway, keep it at the family even though listen to the shots, even though the late

starts, technical difficulties and delayed merch, ELR me, is here and strong. That's crazy. We ride or die. But don't call me to get out of trouble though because I don't answer the phone. Hilarious. Yo.

That's a, you know, that's a We'll do a family day one day. I think so. We got to catch it like spring break, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe Mother's Day time? Mother's Day might make sense. Yeah. That can make sense. Getting everybody to the stew for 8 a.m.

And being on time with no technical difficulties. We were doing better this week. Bounce back to us. It's been a good week. Been a strong week. We'll plan. That's a good idea. I like it. Well, listen, that was a Freedom Friday. I don't have an outro. Fots Friday.

I don't have an outro for that. But it was damn good. It was damn good. And now it's time. Hey, yo, it's time for the gurus. Rosenberg. It's all right. You know you are a beautiful queen.

Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. We ignored the email that said, bring back Laura Never Loses. I was just looking at that. Yeah, but call it Laura Be Losing. Well, we were going to rename it, Laura Never Lissons.

Yes. And then quiz Laura on things we talked about and see what she actually heard. That's so good. Laura never listens and it's like an old story or even just this thing we talked about this week. It could be fantastic. You could do it every show. You probably could.

About things that happen in that show. At the end of the show, that could be the closing segment. Oh, Lauren never listens. Did she catch a thing? Oh, no. And by the way, you know Griff. Griff would love to pull out. He would love to pull out.

He could send me the question. Ask Laura what was said about Blub. It would be the most random thing. I like that idea. I like that. Okay. The original gurus at gmail.com, if you would like to write the gurus, I have been knighted as a guru when we got kicked out of our other job.

So I'm really like garbage man guru. You know what I mean? They needed an extra voice and so they gave me a look. Hey, listen, sometimes the garbage man got to come in, you know what I mean? I wonder if Johnny wishes he was still on this guru. I saw him on the new flyer that they have a show popping up on YouTube at 8 o'clock. You got his face on the flyer, so that's good, but I don't hear him on the mic.

I hear him. I hear him some. He gets on a little bit. I've heard him some. I don't know how much, but I heard him some. But they got him on there. They got cast one on there. It's nice.

No, it actually is funny. When you see the flyer, it looks crazier because it really does look like we were just subbed out on our show. I have to tell you, I don't think I've ever seen this before. I know what has happened. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. The blocking part is hilarious to be.

The what? How they blocked all of us. I was being blocked on IG as wild, bro. What block us? What are we going to do? Comment? Did someone comment? I know.

You did. Yeah, but nothing negative. Nah, you did. Not negative, but you talked issue in a post, I feel like, didn't she? What did I say? I don't know. I feel like you commented, like, a month ago, something happened and you said, not like bad. No, I've commented positive stuff only.

Yeah, that sounds more of you. Maybe, you know what? Maybe I meant me. Maybe it was me. Maybe I said something negative. I think it's punk-ass ramble who runs the socials. He doesn't like, you, bro. Whoa, spicy.

Spicy styles. And he was like, right, block this one and block this one. No, you know, blocking people on IG is the most bitch-made pussy thing ever, bro. Why would you block? I mean, listen, I thought it was bad enough if y'all don't want to pay us the money you owe us. But blocking us, at least I understand it, you want to keep money. Why are you blocking us on IG after? 20 years of service for not even that but why period

just why are you doing that's how brolic we are is that what it is it has to be they can sense it has to be how brolic this thing is moving because why why when you're a heritage brand like that would you care about individuals who used to work there it's very it's weird can somebody make sense of it let us know it sounds like hate let's go

what do you got rosembourg got the pee words today Friday too. It's crazy out of you. The original gurus at gmail.com. The original gurus at gmail.com. The circle of life. That's how I feel when the song starts to keep continuing.

Hi gurus, I live in Rockland County and commute to Harlem for work. And your show is an essential part of my morning commute. We love hearing that. We love that we're still making it to be a part of people's commute. Thank you for keeping things going. My wife and I have been fostering children since 2020

and are happy that most of those children are reunited with their biological families. For two of our boys, it didn't work out for mom to take them back, so we've adopted them. We love them and still see their mom as much as possible. We're white and our two boys are black. They're now five and six years old, and we've been trying to introduce concepts of race to them because we want them to be proud of their blackness and because we want them to understand what it means for how they may need to navigate certain spaces safely.

our area of Rockland is depressingly red and pro cop So we've read books and are conscious of bringing black music and culture into our lives But they don't seem to get that they are black When I say they're black they respond with no I'm not I'm chocolate brown They know that is that it's black history month but don't get that they are part of that amazing legacy of black achievement I'm happy that they feel belonging in our family but don't want them to start to understand their race through a traumatic experience later on.

Do you have any recommendations for helping young kids gain racial awareness? I'm wondering how Ebro experienced a mixed race upbringing and when he understood that his race was different from his moms. Thank you, Max. Oh, this is an Ebro guru special. Well, mine was a little bit more when I got called the N-word in kindergarten by a kid named Manwell,

and so I knew at that juncture, I was also, most of my extended family, or all of my extended family, except my mom and my brother that I saw frequently in my life were black. So I was raised with mostly the black side of my family. Yeah. And then just, how old are the kids again? Five. Five and six.

Five and six. Some of it will happen just because, you know, I don't know what their hair. And this is how crazy this racial thing is. A lot of people think it's complexion and that does have a lot to do with it, but also a lot to do with it as features. your nose, your lips, and your hair texture. You know, when I had hair, people automatically saw me as black because I had, you know, curly, tight curly afro hair.

Or I had dreadlocks or something. So immediately, oh, you're black. As soon as I don't have hair anymore because I have white nose, straight nose and my nose isn't that broad, oh, are you black? What are you? So that's the way that's the way it just goes. Like, and we live in a, I didn't make the rules, guys.

You got you at your house or whoever's listening to this right now, you can finesse whatever, however you want to do it. But like my dad used to tell me, you're going to know you black when the police pull you over. You're going to know you black if, you know, somebody looks right past you when you have your hand raised in class. You're going to know you black when certain things happen when they talk about slavery and the whole class turns around and looks at you if you had a predominantly white school. So, you know, there are certain things that will just happen where you'll be like, oh, all right, I'm black. You know what I mean? And because it's a racial, oh, excuse me, a racialized society. The kind of way things happen in society and the way they happen to you were kind of

socially engineered by the generations that came before you. And race is about how you show up in society. You can say you're whatever you want to say. You can say, oh, I'm biracial, which I don't really, I don't even really like that term. You know what I'm saying? People don't like the term mixed because it has roots in slavery. So they think biracial is, but I'm like, how do you appear in a racialized society as two races? Like, you can't show up as two things.

People look at you and they make an assumption. Racist based on that. Right, right. And they've tried to like, I think, you know, politics and once again, social engineering has tried to, like, finesse the meaning of race a little bit. because I believe that the white infrastructure, this is my belief, I believe that the white supremacist infrastructure of the United States America does not want more people checking the black box. They do not want more people aligning with the descendants of slavery.

They do not want more people aligning with the plight of indigenous people and black folks. They don't want that. So they started creating and creating these other categories so that they could kind of subvert that kind of inertia. Help the number. Right. Because it is a numbers game. It's not working for them. But yeah, that's what they're trying. But they're trying. And so they come up with these other times.

But you're not giving advice. Yeah. The advice is it'll happen. You can put them in environments. You know what I mean? But there will also be a world where they show up and they're hanging out with black folks. And black folks are like, what are you? But remember, they're black. They're adopted. Were you listening?

No. Oh, hit a bro with the button. No, I thought they said they were biracial though. No. Or mixed. They're white. the kids are black. I missed that part. And they're just trying to get the kids to understand.

And be proud. And be proud of being black. Well, you got to take them to black stuff. Yeah, that's what I think. I think you continue because they sound like, they sound like good parents that they're trying and it's really important to them that their kids are proud of their blackness. Like she said or he said, I wasn't paying attention.

And they'll start to see it. They'll start to see themselves differently. And they may ask you like, why do I look like this and you look like that? And you need to know about. Well, they know, but they also know who their mom is. Like they know that. that they're parents. They just aren't understanding race as a construct yet.

But they're little. But take them to black exhibits and shows and this. Have them be around black folks, too. Well, there's also black things like, you know, Jack and Jill. What do they say they lived? Rockland County. Right, yeah, Rockland County. Jack and Joe.

Yeah, they have Jack and Jill all over the place. So, I mean, that's kind of some people say as elitist. I never did it. But that's a black gathering of young people and young and families. And they do, you know, they have, you know, people very well accomplished, scholastically accomplished, business accomplished people who are involved in Jack and Joe who are black. Yes. You know what I mean?

Highly educated. And then there's also just like things for black people to gather and you should take them to those things. Yeah. Or just watch like old episodes of Deaf Comedy Jam, Medea movies. No. That's like a good. Listen. No?

Maybe not. No. No. No. No. Listen, but you can do that also No, you know what I was thinking about When Ebro is going through the whole thing

Like, Ebro is giving the serious things About like they're going to know they're black I was thinking about, you remember in Do you see the me, myself and Irene? When Jim Carries the father of the three kids, one of which is Anthony Anderson. That's right. He doesn't know that he's not the father

And they're all sitting around watching Deaf Comedy Jam, the kids are all sitting in front It's just a ridiculous playing with thing. And you know that, but you know that's from like Steve Steve Martin the jerk. Remember the jerk? The same premise where Steve Martin is like, you're my

family and he's got to leave and they're all the whole family's black. And he's not really picking up on the fact that he's not black. Exactly. But there it is, man. That's it. By the way, man, society is an MFer, man. It'll definitely do a number on these kids so you got to just be there

to love them. That's the other part. You got to be there to love them because there's all different types of stuff when you're dealing with racial dynamics when you have white parents. You know what I mean? Like times there was times like I'd be embarrassed to show up with my mom because she was white and the kids was going to the black kids was going oh your mom's white you know what I mean and now you got to deal and it wasn't so much that I was embarrassed to my mom it was just kind of like now the spotlight is on you and now

you have to deal with a thing. That's the that's the real kind of thing about being different. And I'm sure people with differences have experienced this is when you show up and the spotlight light is on and now you can't just be like everybody else for whatever reason but long term if you have family members that can help you stand in your truth and tell your story and be confident and be loved and know you're loved you build confidence and long term it helps you actually be a stronger person and embrace your differences but it is it is and so it's it's work though bro and it is it does remind me though of like what the privilege is of your parents not being different Yeah. Like, you know, getting picked up, your parents come around, your parents just look like the other white parents.

I mean, it's little things like when you and your parents have, like my mom and I had a different last name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another thing where the, even the teacher's like, you're his parent and you're like, yeah, that's my mom. They're like, wait, hang on. Yeah. You're like, that's my mom, bro. But now everybody else is looking like, wait. Is that your mom? Do I like, are you kidnapping that lady? You're like, that's my mother. I told you guys that story in the grocery store before. That's happened. But they thought you were like harming your mom? Yeah, well, they were like, is this guy bothering you? And she's like, that's my son. He's 14.

No, that's so crazy. Think about how uncomfortable and how nasty that is. But that's, you know, it's real stuff. It really happens. So there goes. Good luck, though. You sound like lovely people. That's right.

Keep doing the work. It's going to take some time. It's going to be a long journey. And that's okay. He'll say the gooos. Listen, I watch six feet under. and David and Keith adopted two kids. But Keith was black, so, you know, David's white, but Keith was black, but the kids were black.

Either way, they figured it all out eventually. There you go. You know? That's a great email. The original gurus at gmail.com for everybody else. Happy Friday. Oh, man. Hey, subscribe with the like button.

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