The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 47.) T.I. Joins Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg to talk "Kill the King," 50 Beef, His Ego, & More (3/3/26)

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

T.I. joins Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg to discuss his beef with 50 Cent, his new album "Kill the King," his ego, his public record, ticket prices, and much more! Aired (3/3/26) Learn more about your ad... choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg show. Yeah. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Ebro and Laura and Rosenberg. And Tia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:22 What's happening, man? What's happening, sir? You're trying to downplay. Ain't a whole lot to it. Y'all got the internet going crazy. A little in that, man. Just a week's worth. and you're back rapping.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Since the last time we saw you, you became a whole comedian and now we're back to being an emce again. Yeah, I made a promise. What was the promise? I made a promise that I had one more album to deliver to the people, and you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:00:49 I can't retire until I give them what I promised. Let me ask you, I'm sorry. Can I just jump right in asking? So why we do this? Kill the King, the final album. Why does it seem like some of my favorite artists in hip-hop? feel the need to either say it's the last tour or the last album.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Like, you are a very young man. You really are sure you're not going to want to make another album in five years and ten years? I'm only speaking for me. I can't, I can't, you know, rationalize why other people make that decision. But for me, it's so much other stuff in life to do at, I'm 45. So at 45, 40, you know what I mean? It's just so much stuff in life to do. And I have so many other gifts that God has blessed me with.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And I feel like this is, you know, a perfect time. And the reason I felt this year was appropriate because it's the 25th year, the 25th anniversary for I'm serious, 20th anniversary for King, 20th anniversary for ATL. So, you know what I'm saying? I want to end this year. So it's not because, it's almost the opposite. It's not because you're like, oh, I'm old and I shouldn't be rapping. It's because you're still a young guy, but there's more to do in life. It's more to be done.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I dig that. I could dig that. I still think you'll drop one again one day, but I'm here to play one. No, bro. I mean, what I'm saying is that won't be my primary focus. Got it. You know, that ain't what my attention is. I mean, I got grandkids.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I want to spend time, you know. How many grandkids? Four. How many kids? Soon to be five. Wow. How many kids? Seven.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Seven kids. And oldest and youngest ages again? Nine to 29. Nine to twenty-nine, bro. But that'll also make you look at life differently. What? And then when I come, when I do rap shit, I, man, this shit is full of this type shit. Well, no, now, now, wait, hold up now, hold up now.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You, I ain't into this. You were asked about verses on Shay-Shay, and you were asked about verses with Gillian Waller. That's right. Both of your- I was asked. Right, but both of your responses- soliciting. Yeah, but your responses led to 50 having something to setting it off. And I think we all pretty much agree, you know, before we get off into it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 None of us really love the whole poster of your lady. Nobody loves all that. Bro, let me tell you. Just on some real shit, my man, it's 8 billion people in the world. Everybody ain't got to like me. Everybody, I ain't everybody a cup of tea. I mean, you know, I'm too strong for some. might not be strong enough of others it's fine i'm cool with that you ain't got to even fuck with me
Starting point is 00:03:36 at all nigga jett don't disrespect me man i'm real big on treating other people the way i want to be treated and i'm also real big on treating motherfucker the way they decide they're going to treat me and it's really just i'm not here i don't give a fuck who raps i don't give a fuck who wants to do versus my life is full i have a very full life i mean i'm well-y-lawed-law i mean i'm well enough. I don't chase numbers. I got enough money to do whatever the fuck I want to do. I want to go buy a house. I buy a house. I want to buy a boat. I buy a boat. I want to fly private. I fly private. I want to buy shoes. I want to send my kids to school. I send them to where the fuck I want to send them to. I live a life that I am happy with. I ain't chasing nobody else success. God has blessed me. So I don't need nobody else to do shit for me to be okay. You ask me a question? As a man, I'm going to tell you what the fuck happened. Right, right, right. And as a man, as a man, if you, as a man, if you're not, as a man, if you If you don't like what I said, then you shouldn't have handled it that way. And ultimately, all of the quietness that we're witnessing right now from dude, what would have happened if that quietness was practiced at the beginning?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Absolutely nothing. We wouldn't be here. Nothing to talk about it. Nothing. There's nothing to see here. But in that regard, there was some good promo out of this. I don't give a fuck about that, man. I don't give a fuck about that, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:59 What the fuck I need? Man, man. This same promo, $50,000 would have got it. Right. I could have spent $50,000 for the same level of promo. Well, and you just said you're not chasing numbers for this album. I'm not chasing it, but I'm just telling you that, the amount of fucking hits and, man, $50,000 would have got the same thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:15 You posted something the other day about the success of your first single right now off this list, latest thing. A lot of number ones. Mm. A lot of things. So you should be proud. Glory to God. So let's see. You got number one.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Number one on Shade 45, trending audio on Instagram, number one, number one digital rap singles, number one global achievements was the post. Yeah, Shazam at Urban, at Billboard. Yeah, number one, Urban Radio, just as of yesterday, number one, urban radio.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Well, as a Friday, as a... But first and foremost, these are numbers that you are watching, so let's be clear. But those are different numbers. Well, I'm not watching all of them. I'm not watching all of them. But I was watching the Irving Radio Joint.
Starting point is 00:06:03 The other ones is like some shit that my publicity got. Some of these numbers, I didn't even know what's numbers, but I'm glad that they are. Well, and I love the song, right? Like, I think unanimously when you put out the teaser video and it was Farrell on production and y'all collabing and the way you sound on the record, everybody love it. I appreciate that. So I haven't heard any negative about the song. But I was just pointing out that moments like this do keep the story going, though.
Starting point is 00:06:29 What you mean? Where you having a back and forth with anybody, whether it's 50 or anybody, that's the world we live in the day. But the thing is, you don't need that if you already have superlative product. If the product is already being received well, you don't need that. It's already growing. It's already gone. Yeah. That shit was already out of here.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No. As soon as I cut my head, that shit was gone. I didn't need this. Right. I had to get my fucking hair if I needed it. You know what I didn't? Now, are you enjoying seeing your sons step up to the moment? And the whole family constant.
Starting point is 00:07:06 No, I don't. I don't enjoy it. I do not. Simply because I've spent so much time trying to get this little nigger off the ledge. Talking about King. Yes. And now he has justifiable means to undo all of the teachings that I've been teaching. I do not like this.
Starting point is 00:07:29 No, I do not enjoy it. Now, Damani kept this cool. Domani's always cool. What the fuck? What universe is this? You know what I'm saying, bro? Like, man, listen, man, I'm a logical, reasonable man of respect, bro. And I raise my children to be men of respect.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Logical, reasonable. and not to be emotional. And when I see King, how he moving, it's emotional, and I know, and me too, you know what I'm saying, me too. You know, you drag the matriarch of our household into some nonsense. So the one thing that I am proud of out of all of this is that the women and children and our family see that it's a line of men. I see.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's here. Right, right, right. Against who the fuck ever. Yeah, I mean, and we're not here to defeat. Like, I don't give a damn about beating. I ain't here to defeat. I'm here to defend. You understand?
Starting point is 00:08:39 I'm here to protect what's ours, what we built. Man, this shit is, man, I die in the street by this shit, man. This shit, dead-ass serious to me. This shit ain't no motherfucking game. I'm not playing. Do you hit kids? When you see like him post a video, do you immediately hit him and say anything? I hit my forehead for a God, damn, man.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Like, bro, it's almost like I hate to see some shit going down or going to a direction where it's headed, but what the fuck can I do to stop it? Because I didn't send it there. I'm not the motherfucker that's directing. I ain't set the GPS, bro. The destination is the destination. How do you turn it off, though? because you seem to have the ability to say,
Starting point is 00:09:28 all right, this went too far. This is, I'm not interested in this. I'm going to focus another direction. How do you turn it off? And you just haven't been able to instill that part into King, maybe? Or you're- Man, to be honest with you, bro. I said that's enough.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Really, I said that's enough when I seen that damn t-shirt. I said, man, this is enough. That's it. Oh, yeah. I say, man, chill out, bro. Chill out. Because again, I'm big. on treating people the way I want to be treated.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I don't be out here just doing unto others in ways. I don't want to be done. And so I don't want to see my children doing others the way, but they, they like, man, this is in response. I'm like, man, but it's over with it. Let it go. Let the shit go, bro. Now, if it didn't involve your family in this way and it was really about rap,
Starting point is 00:10:22 Man, the Beyond the Witcher, bro, I've been extremely, I've exercised restraint. You know, when I were mining my business at the Super Bowl and goddamn, and Shannon and Ocho, they asked me, and he come up with the bullshit, the motherfucking crime stoppers commercial. And I am not ashamed. If I can, man, look, man, if I can find a way to motherfucking keep my mind, motherfucking ass out of jail without sending nobody else to jail. What the, why the fuck not?
Starting point is 00:10:59 It ain't nobody who was, oh, I will go gonna keep it solid. But now since I seen this commercial, let me go on here and wrecked. Man, come on, bro. I'm talking to law-abiding citizens reminding them that they have access to, to protect their communities. Law-abiding citizens do have the ability to call the fucking police. Listen, I'm one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think we all are here. I'm talking to law-abiding citizens. I didn't say, hey, criminals. Right. Hey, if you're committing crimes, I want you to tell on other criminals. That's not what the fuck I said. You know what I mean? And the shit with me and for lunch, when the testimony that was received was in no way incriminating to anybody there.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I was subpoenaed. I was out on bond. $3 million bond, by the way. Already fighting a federal case. If I'm subpoenaed, I got it. to go. So when I went, called it how I saw it. I said, hey man, I don't know who did it. I saw fire. I got low. We returned fire.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I can't tell you this man is who did anything. I didn't see that. So to bring all that shit up when none of that shit is valid, none of it. Oh, and 59458-019. That's my federal number. Pull it up. My name, birthday, all of my motherfucking, my plea agreement, all that shit. It's all in there. It's in there. The court minutes, you can pull up every goddamn time
Starting point is 00:12:26 I went in court. See everything that was said. If you care enough, 5-9-458-019. My name, birthday, that number. Get you anything you want. If you care enough, go get the fucking information. Go ahead. And where's this fucking person I told on? It's been 20 fucking years already. This motherfucker ain't got out here. I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I'm a terrible. I'll let you know. I'm a terrible. I'm not keeping track of none of this. I'm a terrible rat, bro. Because, you know, the internet... I'm told, and it didn't get nobody no time. How the fuck does that work? You know, the internet's going to make narratives, right? Like, people going to throw paperwork up.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Sometimes it's fake. Sometimes it's real. Tell stories that ain't real, all that. But once again, when it gets to these lyrics and these raps, what you've delivered, I feel like with, let's see here, what was it, lessons? You put out two records now. No, it's been three.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Three, three records. It's been three. It's been three. Well, maybe four. Maybe four. But you have to admit this. If you include war, it's been four. Got it. Four records.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, simply because I make music. I don't make memes. I don't, so every time, I don't have a meme to post. I'm not doing that. And the most responsible, mature thing that I know how to do is get my ass behind that mic and talk my shit on a record that keep me from looking in my phone, yelling, looking like King, talking crazy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Every time... Hang out here. Catch a stray. You, Ken. Every time... He ain't going to go out dad next. Here we go. He's going to have a record for you. We've been never fore.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But listen. Nah, did that. Every time I see some shit and I get pissed off, I just start going through beats. Now, you legit pick the first one out here. And I just go. I ain't bullshit, bro. I'm not...
Starting point is 00:14:09 And I'm not trying to make a bop. I ain't trying to... Because I got one out there already. I'm just delet. I'm delivering a message. Yeah. And hope it hits the motherfucking ears I won't. But it looks like people are positively responding to you getting to these raps.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And I have to ask you as a hip-hop fan too, right? Like we're living in a time where people are dissecting lyrics, man. After, you know, it felt like the Kendrick Drake thing and people were really getting into what's being said in these records. And who really has the skill to deliver, you know, cohesive thoughts and punchlines and layers and entangras and all the things. I feel like we're in that time right now. I feel like we've always been in that time.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It feels like it's much more celebrated on social media now. Man, it's always, I think social media may be the determining factor that has changed, but I think we've always been in that time. We would dissecting the lyrics or hit them up. Yeah. No, yeah. We would dissecting the lyrics of who shot you, Trying to see whether or not it was, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's always been there. So as a fan of hip hop, you're having fun right now. You've got to be. I told you no, I'm not enjoying this shit. You're not. Not this part, but you like the music. You like where the music's at in general. I'm enjoying having the number one record in the country.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Okay. Okay. I'm not enjoying this shit. And what about the other music that's out in general? Have you been messing with other music? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I fuck around. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Cole, you're like, what Cole's doing? I haven't heard as much of Cole as of late. I've been seeing like I like his, like how he's rolling his project out. It's been a dope rollout. You know what I'm saying? You haven't really locked in on an album.
Starting point is 00:16:00 How he's moving around in the Honda Civic, pulling up in everybody who is selling shit out to Trump. I'm enjoying that. You know what I mean? But I haven't heard a lot of his records. You haven't got into it all the way. I encourage you to listen. Yeah, it's a double album so it takes time.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You'll love it. You'll really love it. Wait, tip. And it means a lot coming from you. I want to go back. Can you, I want to go back to when you decided, tell me about the moment they said, I'm going to cut my hair. Oh, well, it was always. And I'm going to make this music.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And I want to hear about the phone call to Farrell. I want to hear all that. Well, it was always, that was always the, that was the agenda. You know, when we, when we start putting that music, we're going to give fans the, the image that they have. grown to love from TI, you know what I'm saying? Because it's the last ride. You don't want to give a motherfucker, okay, you got one lad ride and you go make it different. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:57 I'm going to give it to you, you know, get the people what they want, man. Do people want to line up and they want to see get to them? And so that was always the intention. As far as like, oh, another thing I don't think people know, we live in a studio. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're recording all the time. All the- Your house.
Starting point is 00:17:20 No, not the how we have a studio that we just, this is ours. And they're in there right now, I'm sure. King, Demani, Buddy Red, OMG. Oh, yeah, shout to Buddy Red. Didn't he put out a record, too? He came. I don't think that was him.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I don't think that was him. I saw Instagram. I was like, Buddy Red's the oldest son. He's a blues artist. Yeah. And that might have been AI, though. I think that was AI. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:45 How you don't know? I don't think that was, I didn't ask him, but I know that he hadn't told me. Like, this is the thing, we're not, we're not in cahoots in unison. Muffalo just doing shit. Well, and also people forget, like, I see Domania and I still think Domanie's like 17. Right? How was D'Amany? Demand is 24.
Starting point is 00:18:05 With two children? No, 25. He might be hitting 25. I think this March you'll be 25. Crazy. Kings how old? King 21 We've done
Starting point is 00:18:15 And so these were Little kids on television At a certain So crazy So you forget that like He's not They're not checking in with their dad Before they make no
Starting point is 00:18:24 I also like can't I'm conceptually trying to understand any of this Because I'm only now father of a one year old All I have I have my one year old girl right now So we are both dads But our lives are very different So when he's talking about like
Starting point is 00:18:36 I don't know what this kid is doing Because these are adults These are all you have a It's a it's a like a crew. You know what I mean? Like, you talk to one. They're my best friends now. You know what I'm crazy. Yeah, yeah. And you guys are in the studio, most days. Some, some version of a bunch of you will be in the studio together. Yes. Yeah, it's like, so, you and DeMani, chilling. You and King, chilling, but y'all argue a little bit more. Man, you know. Or just King likes to argue and that's
Starting point is 00:19:04 man, King, bro. King is, he's a passionate. He's a very passionate person. And he has a, and he has a Big heart. Has he always been this way, by the way, since he was a little boy? Yes, yes. Because I told him, I told him, like, I think it started, like, when he was going to kindergarten, I say, hey, if you can't beat your brothers up, them little niggas at school are going to kick your ass. So I said, your brothers love you. They're not going to do nothing to hurt you.
Starting point is 00:19:34 These niggas out there don't care about nothing about you. If you can't whip them, you ain't going to baby whoop nobody. So he just started taking off on the moment. I mean, for real, bro. And I thought it would stop at a point. So you created a monster is what you say. You did this. You're a responsible.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Somewhat. I'm culpable. I thought that, like, okay, he get in there and he win a fight. People see he can fight and then leave him home and they're back up. I didn't know this motherfucker wanted to be fucking Bud Crawford. Right, right. No, but I respect him a lot because. he
Starting point is 00:20:12 move on principle. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, a lot of time when we teach in principles, you know, like for instance, when we say
Starting point is 00:20:25 somebody, oh, you make sure they pay you, right? If it's a dollar 50 cent or, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:37 you know, an incremental amount, there's something you can let go. It's like, okay, that's enough to keep you out of my life. I don't have to push that line with you. Nah, he's pushing it. You told me, you said.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I'm doing what you said. And I, bro, but it ain't that serious. But it is. Yes, it is. You know what I'm saying. And so, you know, I. But that's part of the big heart then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Right? Because big heart, big love, also big pain. Absolutely. But how do you get comfortable? This is the part I'm trying to understand, like listening to you speak as a dad. At what point. do you go, yeah, I wouldn't do it that way. But you're a grown, but now you're like a man.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Because it sounds like you're not, you're not forcing him to be a different way. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, bro, that's who he is. And that's something that I had to accept. You know what I'm saying? Because at one time, I was like that. And it just took time and experience and luck, I'm sure, too, though. And prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And you know what I'm saying? To get me to a place where I, understood how I got myself in certain situations. And I think for him, a lot of it has dialed down with him having his own child. Him becoming the father has kind of, you know, it's lightened his aggression. But in a moment like this, well, here we go. That's, man, this is unfortunate. It's just unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But it's also, hopefully, just a music. It's unfortunate Once people say certain things You kind of have to check out Because at that point Where you, there's nowhere to go You know what I'm saying? I understand
Starting point is 00:22:22 I got a number one record in the country, man That's right So you're tired of talking about it It's official You don't want to do No more interviews about this Man, man, for what? Well, it's a new week though
Starting point is 00:22:31 It's a new week And I'm on to something else There you go I dedicated a week to that shit Man, I've moved on I got to say though And once again I'm bringing us up
Starting point is 00:22:40 As a fan of hip hop The response I'm seeing you get for getting in the booth and getting to raps and delivering on raps is very, very high from people I know who want raps. And I don't know if you're paying attention to it in that way. Yeah, the thing is I ain't, so one thing I've done, I think they were back in 2023. I don't have Instagram on my phone. Good for you. You know what I'm saying? I don't...
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's the way, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So much. That's elevated life. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I go to my IG right here, I don't... It's not even on there. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You love to see it. Okay. So I don't really see the shit. Somebody got to send me some shit. Got it. Well, I'm letting you know. I'm letting you know. That's been the response on the blogs.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, but also, you bro, F the internet because they're full of it. Because on one sense, yeah, they'll give tip props for jumping and getting the booth. Right? But they'll give J. Cole grief because he decided he wanted to get in and then get out. But as long as 50 drops a funny meme, they don't have Isht to say about 50. No, they don't put it on him. No, they talk a trash about 50. Because it just seems like there's the internet picks and chooses. I'm looking at everything on this one. Because I know every one. I rarely see him this much in the dark. You're excited. You're excited, bro. Why are you so? I know. He's done talking about.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I know both of them. I know both of them on camera and off camera. I'm watching. Right. And Fiff is getting flamed in his comments for especially when he put up some of my grandma. When you go and you don't went and jump from somebody mom and then you put up Beyonce mom and people was out. They checked out, which is why he took it down. He knew he played.
Starting point is 00:24:35 He went too far. But TIP was back to these raps. You was ready to get to these raps and there's been a thing. That's always been tipped, though. But there's been a thing that people have been saying for a while, which is people out here talking shit on Instagram, saying they got problems with people and you're a rapper and you're not rapping. That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I ain't ever heard of that. That's a thing. That's a thing. Yeah, I see it. I see it in the comments where people are like, yo, get in the booth. I want a song. Get in the booth. Deliver a song.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I love the fact that people think they could just get goddamn tell a motherfucker what to do. I love the fact. They feel like that. They feel like that. They're sitting in their two people. Yeah. Get in the boat. Get your rich ass in the money.
Starting point is 00:25:13 That shit is crazy. That is true. That's shit crazy. If motherfuckers think they got that much. Absolutely. And they probably do. In their mind, they bought a concert ticket. They supported an album.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Maybe they did. Maybe whatever. But in exchange for the experience. That's right. That experience. Exactly. Not control over your whole life. That shit is not continue on.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You know, but nah, I'm just, I think, man, as long as motherfuckers deal with shit, man. in a way that is sportsman-like or in a way this, you know what I'm saying? Like, bro, say what the fuck you want to say by me? I ain't, man, I got thick skin and I know who the fuck I am. I walked in this motherfucker knowing who I am. So it ain't really like, I don't, but lead,
Starting point is 00:25:59 how about we just lead a women and children? There you go, there you go. Lead a women and children. So on this album, Kill the King. Yeah. What are you saying with that title? Kill the King is really killing the ego, bro. And this is the reason I want to retire
Starting point is 00:26:14 because, you know, rap is a ego-driven sport. It's very big on I and me instead of us and we. You know what I'm saying? And as I evolve in my consciousness and elevate my mindset, I understand that peace is the greatest commodity one could have. You know what I'm saying? If you got a bunch of money and you still don't have peace of mind, you ain't happy,
Starting point is 00:26:48 you, like, still fucked up in the head or buy some shit that happened 12 years or however longer, that money don't mean shit. You can't even enjoy it. You can't pay attention to keep it because you focused on all the wrong shit. I value peace. And that's why I'm not enjoying this shit. because it's impeding on my peace. You said it ruined your Ramadan.
Starting point is 00:27:13 It did. Ficked up my damn Ramadan. First day. First fucking day. Wait, and you're Muslim? I am not. Wait, wait, so hold on. Wait, you just take this.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It's just participating. I just participate. You just go to the book. Friends. I got friends. So now what do you love about Ramadan? I love the discipline of it, man. Like, you know, because for one, we could stand to eat less.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the first thing. A bunch of the shit we eat is nonsense anyway. So to abstain and just to show your body that your mind has the ability to say, no, we're not doing this for a period of time to me is just godly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And also it's camaraderie in it. You know what I mean? When you Ramadan and it's unlawful. other people around you, there's Ramadan, and you might run it, and then we break fast at the same time, and then you go and you see, you know, a person breaking fast with you. You don't even know them. But, you know, y'all fellowship, and that shit cool to me, man.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It's real dope. But the fasting is only one part of it. Abstaining from negative interactions from this whole shit is the antithesis of what I'm supposed to be doing. And your commitment to hip-hop. And your commitment to getting to these rap. Man, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my flesh, my flesh is weak. I'm still a man. You know, God is perfect.
Starting point is 00:28:48 You know what I'm saying? I am not. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's my weak flesh and my, my fucking ego and just me being, just caring more about the defense and protection of my household's integrity is, is, is, I said, fuck it. I catch you, I catch back up with you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna.
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Starting point is 00:30:04 And so in this album, Kill the King, do you tap into this killing of the ego? Actually, I'm doing the exact opposite. You figure if you get it all out. You're just talking shit. Non-stop. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And you hope when it's done. Yeah, I hope by the end, you know what I'm saying? I'll be able to, you know, find myself. How did the, how has the comedy done? for the feeding of the validation and the ego, because that's a very hands-on. So comedy, there was nothing but peace involved in that. Why?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Because you didn't feel pressure? I mean, bro, because I came in at the bottom and it wasn't nowhere to go but up. And you had some rough patches in there, too. I had one. There was no expectation. That was the ego. I wanted to see how you responded to that.
Starting point is 00:31:02 The ego was like, I have one. Don't play with me. I see his ego. I mean, you know, as far as rough patches go, you know what I'm saying? Because, be honest with you, Dave Chappelle get on stage and sometimes it doesn't go as well as it went, you know. All comedians are bad. First of all, comedy is hard.
Starting point is 00:31:18 To all the comedians out there, anybody trying to do it, that is very hard. It's tough. It's tough. But you found it, you didn't find that it hurt your- It's therapeutic to me. Okay. Because I get a chance to go up and I get a chance to talk about things that a lot of motherfuckers observed me go through
Starting point is 00:31:35 and they only saw one side. I never got a chance to speak on it until my take. And I get a chance to laugh through it. And, you know, that lessens like, I guess, the negative impact. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Like, for instance, the shit with me and King when, you know, we have, at a, let's say call it, Harris family father-son bonding moment. Yes. Publicly at the Falcons game. You know what I'm saying? So experiencing that in the eyes of the world, me getting up there and talking about it. So the joke is, you know, listen, sometimes you got to love on your children, especially
Starting point is 00:32:23 if you're raising black sons, you've got to love them. You've got to love them hard. But get your old, because the worst thing that could happen that he could kick your ass. And then that's going to make the household fucked up. But when you do it, if you're anything like me and you my age, you utilize muscles that you ain't utilized in a while. So don't go back home with this same motherfucker because when I got home, I was so everywhere.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I couldn't move or nothing. And I had Tamika for, give me an Cedron, a might all, or anything, please. And she said, yeah, you got to go get your own water. So I'm walking, sew ahead to the kitchen and King on the other side. Yeah, nigger, brain your ass on. Let's go stand on business now. Yeah, now it's my turn. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:07 So me being able to speak about shit like that on stage, it kind of makes it easier that I live this shit and through the eyes of the world. You know what I'm saying? Do you think you're a good comedian? I think I'm a better comedian than I was when I started. Okay. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I feel like as someone who's always hit the stage and celebrate it automatically because we all love you, I can't imagine how humbling it is to hit the stage and, that one time when you're like, yeah, but the thing is, okay, so that was a learning curve. First of all, you got to understand just as much as I'm working on being a comedian, just as much as I'm working on my set. People are also working on not seeing me as TI.
Starting point is 00:33:56 You know what I'm saying? That's right. So that's something that has to be. you know so there are three versions of ourselves there's how we see ourselves how the world sees us and then there's who we really are now and rap is real heavy on how we see ourselves you know i mean yeah comedy is more so tapping into how the world sees you so i understand what the world think of me they think that you know i'm a smart a smart motherfucker from the hood who used big words So when I get out there, and I say, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:33 By the way, with the voice, with an interesting southern twang as well. Okay. All part of the thing. So, yeah, you know, so, you know, when I get out there and say, welcome to my metamorphosis. You know what I'm saying? Anybody who hear words you don't understand, just raise your hand. I'm a public school student. We'll get through this together.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You know, that taps into a person's perception. Oh, I knew he were going to use a bit word. You know what I'm saying? And it also allows me to dive into people's perception of me. Begin to understand. And you enjoyed this. It's therapeutic for me. Yeah, you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Did Dave give you any good advice? Any thoughts? Did he watch any of your sets? Man, every comedian tells me the same thing. Stay on stage. Yeah. Ain't no way. This is nothing you can practice at home and you got to stay on stage.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Are you going to continue to do comedy? After I get through with this. Got it. Okay. So back to it. Yeah. When I finished this, I never saw one of your stand-ups. For real.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Never saw one. Okay. It didn't hit my algorithm. For real. Yo, it's all politics. But wait a way, but wait, hang on. I only heard that you got booed. I never saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I only heard people's feedback about your comedy. I never got to judge it myself. But see, this is the thing, though. Online, okay, the worst thing, especially for me, is for a motherfucker to take a joke that I'm working on. Right. and post it before it's perfect. Oh, yeah, that's, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:00 That's why people take cameras from people because it's not. Exactly. Because it's like, okay, it's almost like if you play on the radio, all of the verses that didn't get perfected. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Nobody want to present themselves. The roughs.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Exactly. Nobody wants themselves presented in that light. So that's probably why it hasn't hit your algorithm. Why? Because why? Because I try to keep that shit off the internet. internet. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:29 It behooves me to keep that shit off. There you go. Comedy's hard, man. It's so hard. Listen, I'm proud of you for it, though. But it's fun, bro. It's fun, man. And not even just being on stage. Just going, being backstage in the green room
Starting point is 00:36:43 with all the comics and watching motherfuckers, you know, put their sets together, seeing, man, just touring these comedy clubs going around, man, from fucking Tacoma, Washington to fucking motherfucking
Starting point is 00:36:59 Ontario, California, D.C. Oh, man, these are great comedy towns. Well, when you talk, you said earlier, you was 45.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yeah. There's some comedians that we didn't even really meet and get famous until they was in their 50s. Like who? Red Fox. Red Fox was older.
Starting point is 00:37:17 For real? I think he's late 40. Remember? I mean, time's different back then. I think Red Fox would He was late 40s, though. Yeah, I think when he got,
Starting point is 00:37:23 he got that when he was in his late 40s. But that was when he was done with... Yeah, but he'd already... He'd already been big on, like, the black comedy scene, but he hadn't made it to national TV famous. Right, he hadn't gone like that. That's what I mean big, big famous.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Well, I mean, brother, to be honest with you, man, uh, I ain't doing it for the money. I got into it knowing that the money was scarce. Yeah. So I ain't... Speaking of your money. Um, and we're talking about... Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:48 That's crazy. Crazy. I'm talking about the transition is wild. That's a wild. Pocket watching is something I do. Speaking of your money. Speaking of your money. Speaking of pocket watching is something I do.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Um, y'all had a big lawsuit. Y'all landed, right? Can you talk about that? I always bring this up on the show. And my wife money, man. But it's... That's my wife money. I don't...
Starting point is 00:38:06 Listen, whoever's money is. You know, that little lady, everybody going crazy, but... Yeah, they're her money. But that's a real thing. Like, somebody trying to tell me it wasn't done. It wasn't real. Well, it is real. They are, they do have a right to appeal.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It is, you know, the numbers fluctuate. You know what I'm saying? Somewhere between 18 to 70 million. You know what I'm saying? That's a big guy. Even the low end of that is a lot of money, I'm going to be honest. I mean, you know, but get what? My life is already, I'm already straight.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But like I said, this was just not about your money, but specifically, but about the money. We're already straight. Right. We're already straight. You know, and I ain't just talking about my money. She was rich when I met him. That's right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:45 You know what's your money. Yeah, she already straight. We're good. Y'all ever talk about scrubs, no scrubs money? What about it? I mean, do you ever talk about it? What do you mean? Do you ever just go, how?
Starting point is 00:38:56 How much money you still make it? What am I talking about? What is that number still look like? What do you mean? That's between the banker and tiny. Let's just say this. My trips to the mailbox are amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:09 By the way, that's the biggest one in the house, right? What's that? That's got to be the biggest check in the house, the no scrubs check. From a publishing standpoint, I have to imagine. From a publisher standpoint. Well, she wasn't the prime... Oh, but she's not...
Starting point is 00:39:23 Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, whoa. I'm just saying, when I say primary, Her and Candy wrote that together. Somewhere between that and live your life. Live your life. Somewhere between, I don't know, I don't know. It all comes back to the same. The way Rihanna hit you on that yodel,
Starting point is 00:39:41 when she yodel on that record, she took you to another place, my guy. Hey man, Rihanna was very, very generous. Yeah, man. Very generous and our family still thanks her to this day. You know what I'm saying? It's the, by the way, that is the craziest sounding start. of a TI record that I never thought I have. Like, every time I still hear it,
Starting point is 00:40:00 Baya y'all here. Yo, when she pulls up with the yodel, it's crazy, bro. What was your reaction? Well, you first heard it. Man, when I first heard it, I think it was Just Blaze on there doing that shit. So it was way crazy then. Wait, the demo was Blaze doing it? Yeah, the demo was Blase.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So it was way crazy then. Just Blaze hit it? He said, I, yeah. Oh, my God. To hear that? I don't like that be awesome. Okay, so how did you guys end up on Rihanna? Man, it was a no-brainer, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It was a no-brainer. They said Rihanna. I said, hell, yeah. And, you know, at the time, I was still, like, house arrest type shit. So I couldn't really move around. So I couldn't go and ask myself. I couldn't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Okay, okay. G Robeson kind of, you know, he kind of quarterback that motherfucker. And she was gracious enough. to do it and as soon as I heard it I was like yeah so is that is that a get is that the second you got it done you walk out of the studio and you go this is going to be a song that takes me to different places that I've ever been before absolutely you know it without question even though when I got the vocals back we were already in the middle of whatever you like which had already
Starting point is 00:41:21 all crazy yeah yeah see but it's different versions gone crazy right because whatever you like was gigantic, but stayed mostly urban, right? No. It didn't? It went all-in-out-all formats. Oh, all formats. He didn't watch numbers, but he remembers those numbers. Now, listen, when they come to this radio format thing, T-I-I-I-al-
Starting point is 00:41:38 always been on that. Who's playing my shit? Who's not playing my shit? I need to know. So whatever you like went everywhere. Yeah. And then live your life went even bigger? Well, so it was a very unique moment.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I think, I don't know if it's been done since then, but at the time I don't think in hip hop it had been anyone that was number one and then number one until their second single moved to next right oh really that's what happened so live your life replace whatever you're like that's crazy then I had number one and number two wow yeah so on this man man oh hey king I'm on I'm on Ebro Laura and Rosenberg show and uh we they would just talking about you you have anything intelligent to say oh tell them uh tell them i said what's up man what's happening what up king yeah what's up with it man peace and positivity man love that yeah and tell him we're not doing no new records this hey hey man we don't we don't we don't we don't move
Starting point is 00:42:45 we don't we don't move down right yeah i mean yeah i'm trying to okay he's all he's working on all right i love this i like this vibe i love it i love it for you though That's a good idea. Glad you thought of it. Yeah, man. I caught you. Anything in prison? Can I, can I holl at you when I get through with this?
Starting point is 00:43:05 No, you can holl at me. What my grandbaby doing? He ain't doing nothing. He's asleep. You went to sleep. All right. Well, I get with you. You're calling it to what?
Starting point is 00:43:13 It was a little kid performing, let him know at a juicy crab yesterday. Is there video? Send the video. All right. I said you. Yo, he sounds like he's in a great space. I know. Thank the Lord.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Got the kid down for the early nap? That early nap's key? Early nap, that 10 a.m. nap. You need that. There in Georgia, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we have, he has his own dwelling on the estate. So we had, like.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Separate dwellings on an estate is so wild, bro. Remember you? was having the problems with the gate entry. Remember all of that? Is that, y'all still the same place? No, we bought a different career. I think she sold that. That was her house, by the way.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Got it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, you know, 16 years of marriage, you know what I'm saying? Ups and downs. Peaks and values. Oh, so that was at one point in her place. Yeah, that was her place. Oh, hilarious.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I love that for y'all. That's one thing about having a rich wife. She ain't going to do shit you say. Oh. She ain't going to do shit you say at all. I will literally get my own house right now. Nah, exactly. Oh, that's what you doing?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Oh, you ain't answering your phone? Okay. I want the house. Get me the house. Yes, the big one. That's right. Behind, yes, behind the gate and tell them he can't come in. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You're like, me, you know me. I can't come in. Yeah, but get what? So funny is here, right? And, you know, it's times, so this is the thing, right? It's times where, like, we'll be cool. And you know what I'm saying? and I, you know, come back in and more people, they'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But the times when we ain't cool, this motherfucker was like, nah, you ain't cool. You ain't cool. She told me you ain't cool. I'm like, bro, man, open this fucking gate, y'all. No, no, no, shit. But her people are like, we just, the last conversation we heard.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Exactly. You didn't get the update. Open the gate. The funny shit, the funniest shit, bro. One time, bro, man, they went open the gate. I parked the car got out and walked. I said, tow it. And I walked to the house.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I said, man, you think you can keep me from coming to my motherfucking house? You think you can? But I thought it was her house. We married. So it's kind of his house. It's kind of his house. We married.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You got to police all you want to. You can't put me out of shit. You hear me. So back to the, I killed a king. Who's on this joint? Now, all we know so far as you are Pharrell? Yeah. What else can you?
Starting point is 00:45:50 DJ Toon. Okay. We got, let me see, Mike Wheel. Yeah. We got Jazz and Fay. Wow, I love that. Who else we got, man? Weezy.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Oh, okay. We got Spider. Mm-hmm. That da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Usher. Okay. That's how I can remember right now. DRO, Young DRO.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Young DRO. I love that too. He's been moving around. Now, now you as an elder statesman, an OG in Atlanta, if you will, there's been, you know, Metro booming put out a tape this summer, trying to bring that feeling back. Futuristic summer. Jermaine Dupree is, you know, put out a project this year that was,
Starting point is 00:46:39 or 2025 that was capturing the magic, you know, of the club scene and what magic was about. Right. Are you feeling like the generations, and I've asked several people from Atlanta this, the generations of the newer artists and the older artists is a collaborative effort there. It feels good because I'm seeing droll collaborating on a lot of things and it feels like the cities. I do. But I think even more so than that, what I believe is for a while now,
Starting point is 00:47:10 because of the success of some sounds, I think the industry got away from region. sounds. So everybody sound like they from everywhere. And so what I think, more so than generationally, I think just getting back to the sound of a place,
Starting point is 00:47:34 I think that's what's being done. You know what I'm saying? Motherfuckers know what Atlanta polled the sound like. They know what Houston pulled the sound like. They know what L.A. pulled the sound like. They know what Detroit pulled the sound like. They know what Detroit pulled the sound like.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And when everything's starting to sound the same, it loses its effect. So when you get back to the origin to, you know, what shit really, really, really, really posed to be, that's when people get excited, I feel. I love that. When you made sorry with three stacks, that's what's going back like 13, 14 years now. So I'm like, been a minute. Yeah, it's probably one of the greatest ass-wopings I received on the, well, guess what? Hit the button,
Starting point is 00:48:18 bro, because he did it to himself. The second you, the second you asked for the verse, you know what's happening. You played yourself. I did my thing. Like,
Starting point is 00:48:28 you know what I'm saying? I was, I was like, I was confident walking in. And he just kept saying, oh yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I got it. Yeah, sure, sure. I'm like, man, what fuck? And then finally, he came in and he didn't have
Starting point is 00:48:45 one piece of paper. This man had stacks of paper. He was literally staten, literally three stacks. I'm talking about this man. And I'm like, man, and I'm like, man, and he just started. I'm like, man, what? I wanted to say get him out of there, but I'm like, man, that's my record. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:02 But you didn't, did you recut yours after? You let it be. You said it's going to be as good as it's going to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have that story. Because for one, him talking about him in Biggs situation, I can't top that. what the fuck I'm gonna do. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You know what I mean? So I just, you know, I left my shit where it was. That was the greatest ass weapon I've received. Do you think that when it comes to, I'm not talking about body of work, I'm not talking about the whole like everything. When it comes to just the ability
Starting point is 00:49:29 to do things on a microphone in a way that nobody else can do it, do you think there's anyone better at it than Andre? Because I don't know that I think there is. I don't know if he has the best body work or not. Better? I think there are people who are as good. Got it. Not many.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I can't imagine you think there are many. I mean, that is, it's a rare air. It's rare air. You know what I mean? It's definitely like Kendrick, Scarface, Jay Z, T.I. Lil Wayne. You know what I mean? Marshall Mathers?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Definitely M. Yes. Yeah, man. But the air gets thin up there. It starts to get thin. It does. It does. Jay Electronica. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:24 Like, it's, you know, it's... What is it about Jay Elect that you like so much? I mean, a nigga dope. Niggas just dope, bro. Like, you know what I mean? He's so unique, right? And he's like, you know that the actor, I think he was in There Will Be Blood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Dang, Gary Lewis. So, you know, this nigga is a shoemaker. Who? Daniel Day Lewis. Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah, he works in Europe like a regular day job and just pop out every now and then and do some Oscar-worthy shit
Starting point is 00:50:57 and go back to his fucking job. That's some superlative shit. That's what Jay Electronica is like. You know what I'm saying? Some motherfucka pop out, do some shit that's better than 90% of shit this out, and then just go back to what the... Wandering the universe, doing J.
Starting point is 00:51:16 collect things. Gallivanting of a world. It is a beautiful life, though. No, it is an interesting life. I just saw I saw Jay Elect putting out tour dates with his dog. I saw that. He was like, yeah, I'm coming to your city and his dog. He couldn't get his dogs to be still. That's a fucking life, bro. You know what I mean? That's a fucking, that's the way I want to live like
Starting point is 00:51:36 Jay Electronica, Andre 3,000. Yeah. I want to pick up a flute. A weird instrument. A weird instrument. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you got your eye. I mean. You kind of did that. I did what? You kind of are doing, walking to the beat of your own. You know, like, comedy was that.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Comedy was your flute. Bro, we, none of us would ever have thought that he had. I didn't know what, yo, I didn't know. To my fucking flute. Tip, right. I didn't know what people was talking about. It was like, yeah, his comedy. I was like, his comedy.
Starting point is 00:52:09 What are you talking about? Man, it was, it was four years. It's been four years. Bro, I missed it. January 12. I bet you I saw your faith. If I think hard enough, I think I did see your name on flyers. And I thought you was performing.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And that's what caused people to boot. Right, right, right. When they put me on a flyer with comedians and rappers and I come outside and goddamn knock-knock. Oh, okay. That makes perfect sense. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was like, oh, tip performing. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:42 But that taught me, don't get on shows that I'll. for music. That's a great point. You know what I'm saying? Don't do those. So I learned that then. We didn't mention this yesterday, by the way. Did you do you guys see that the rumor this weekend is that
Starting point is 00:52:58 JZ is not only, this is not only a tour in place but there's a JZ album coming? Is that the rumor? That was the rumor this weekend. What? It's not right, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, time out. Time out. Time out. Hang on. Last week, we knew nothing of a tour we just knew that two weeks was blocked out at the Barclay Center.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's what we heard. So that is not a rumor of a tour. No. That's like a residency. A rumor of a residency. By the way. And it's a rumor. It doesn't have his name on it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 This is made up. They don't know who has the two. It was a merch item, wasn't it? Yes, there was a merch item? No, he re-released dead presidents. They put out the single on vinyl on his website. They announced the 25 years of death. Okay, so is this an anniversary year?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yes. Yes. Because, you know, old dogs like us, we like the anniversary. George is lined up. 23 of anniversary I'm there. Jay's 30. 30 of reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Oh, yeah. This is logical. It makes sense. No, no, no. But all I'm saying is we don't have confirmation. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But it's a reasonable assumption. For sure. A reasonable. Very reasonable. Well, I have reasonable doubt. You have doubt. I don't know. Especially for the new album.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I don't know. They said that. Why are you down there? Why wouldn't he, though? Yeah, why wouldn't he? I just... And in Brooklyn, for him? It all makes sense.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Remember when Bleak came out? I'm just not there. You're just a pessimist. Yeah, he's been... No, no, no, no. I'm just, don't want... I don't want to get my hopes up. Remember when Bleak said on a podcast?
Starting point is 00:54:30 Bleak came out at some point and said, you know, Jay's always in the studio. I was just blah, blah. And then he's been in the studio. And then he got scolded. And then Bleak was like, my bad. I didn't say anything. Something like that happened.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Because I'm sure he's always recording something, trying something. We are working on material. All this is true. But I don't. But I don't want to get my hopes up. They might do a full art installation at the Barclay Center where we walk around and look at holograms for two weeks. And that's cool, too.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'll be happy. I'll be happy. But I'm not going to go all the way to the, you know, album and tour. Last week it was a tour we didn't know nothing about. This week we jumped all the way to album. I'm not doing it. I thought it was just an anniversary show. I think the album is more likely than the tour.
Starting point is 00:55:11 If it's two weeks at the Barclays, that makes sense. But as far as going to tour. Yeah, full tour. I ain't anybody else. Fuck all that. Yeah. Well, can you speak to us as a rich person when you say fuck all that? Like, it's just like I'm not going city to city with y'all.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Like, fuck all that. Right. Rich people like to sleep in our beds. We like to be in our homes and drive our own cars and do the things that we like and be on our boats. That sounds, you know what I'm saying? That's what the fuck we got. I don't know. You got to go to Toledo, Ohio today.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Man, what the fuck. Toledo, he didn't mean anything by that. No, but I'm just saying, no problem with Toledo. I have no issue. No issue. I take no issue. We love Toledo. Yeah, I have to take no issue with Toledo. But at the same time, when I go to Toledo, I'm not sleeping in my bed. That's right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You know what I'm saying? You can say fucking any other place, L.A. or anywhere. Man, it's not going to be in my bed. I don't get to go and open my refrigerator. You know what I'm saying? That's right. And, you know, if you don't have to. And another thing, and this is, this is, this is just me.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I ain't speaking for Jake. Me, no matter how much you charge, right? No matter how much you charge for your show, I don't give a fuck if it's $1,000, $100,000, $1 million. It's still somebody sitting at home counting your, counting more money. They paid you to come do something so they can make money. Say that again, meaning the whoever owned the venue, you work for somebody. You're working for somebody to promote why the fuck I got to drag myself out of my fucking house to hop around sing and dance for this motherfucker to stay home and count money.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I mean, listen, not all deals are the exact same. You know what I'm saying? Beyonce, Taylor Swift, they make a lot of money. You think they make it more than Live Nation, though? Yeah, see what I'm saying? That's what he's talking about. I know, but how close is that you think? I don't know, but I can't imagine they're fronting all the money.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I think they said Taylor on the last tour. I think she made, I think, 300 million. And they probably made triple. You think so? Wow. They at least made as much. Right, right. Which is still a split.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And did less work. You know what I'm saying? But to your, to Tips point? I'd rather stay home and call people to say, hey, man, you want to come do a show? Come do a show. But that's why the Barclay makes sense. Because to your point, he has a spot in New York. He does get to be at home.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You do get to be home and do the show for two weeks. That's why I said. That makes sense. Let's see. You have anything planned for the 24? 20th anniversary of ATL? Yeah, man. I don't know if Hannah want me to say it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 All right. We don't. I don't know if how I want me to say it, but yes. There is something in the words. Come on. Come on. Yeah, I don't know if Hannah want me to say it's going to be, let's just say, if it goes the way we think it's going to go. It will be the biggest skate party ever.
Starting point is 00:58:09 You just said what it is. Well, if. If. But he added the word if. All right, how about this, too? I don't think I've ever asked you. No, this is why they don't let TIE outside sometimes. You'll never get to then you.
Starting point is 00:58:24 You're never against you. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Don't let them talk anymore because something else will slip out. But it's, if. No, tell us a fun story of Denzel from American Gangster. A fun story. Yeah. Can you got anything fun with Denzel?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Oh, yeah, I'm going to tell you. And, you know what I'm saying? This shit here, it ticked me at least. So, you know, Frank Lucas was on set. Yeah, that's right. Oh, during the making of the film. And, you know, in his head, he was still the same Frank Lucas before. He was not.
Starting point is 00:59:04 No disrespect. Things had changed. I mean, I'm just saying he wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure he ruled with a much more iron-fired. in his in his time and so watching him try to tell denzil how to be frank Lucas was crazy that's it's essentially an acting lesson to Denzel nah let me say see look now you know then say well you come you know he was trying like at first
Starting point is 00:59:38 he were trying to be yeah yeah and then finally like man like and that that was crazy to me That was wild to watch. Was that your biggest, was that your biggest role so far? Was that American gangster role? Define big. Or, I mean, I guess, um. We're talking about selfish. No, I guess who you were working with.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Who you were working with. Yeah. Um, I mean, Takers was pretty big. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have a Denzel, but you know what I'm saying? We had Powell Walker. We had, uh, Idris. Michael Ely, Chris Brown.
Starting point is 01:00:18 There was so many of us, you know what I'm saying, it showed up. And that ensemble, you know, it was as big. Will Ferrell and fucking Kevin Hart, that was a pretty big one. That's... But, I mean, man, bro, it was definitely my internship.
Starting point is 01:00:38 That was my second movie. So I was really just there learning. Because, you know, for ATL, I was number one on the call sheet. That was my first movie. That's crazy. You were the lead. You're the lead in the first movie.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And you didn't know what the F you were doing. I didn't. I almost got fired. Wait, why? This is still TIP day. He was on rapper mode. Yeah, you were in rap mode. What happened?
Starting point is 01:01:02 You weren't showing up on time. So this was after the success of like, bring them out. You don't know me. Oh, you know. Gas. I'm working on the team. I probably, man, Leo showed up and I think he might have brought me a 10 million, $7 million check.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I'm making $60,000 to do this thing here. This is a favor. They want me to show up for skate practice and all this. I just bought a phantom. We were two fathoms in the city. It was big boy and mine. Right. And I'm driving.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm driving this big motherfucker. I'm driving a boat and blowing good gas through the sunroof showing up. And I was, you know, I used to try to, like, you know, the rest of the cast, you know, of course they stay in the hotel. They have a shuttle take. I used to be like, man, I come pick y'all up. I come pick y'all up. Come ride with me. So I'm, we all late pulling up late in the motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:01:58 They're like, bro. They're going to fire you, though. Well, because you're messing up the amount of money that you cost a studio to push a thing back hours. Everyone has to get paid that time. Well, then you just got regular working people who just, this happens to be their job. I got to go over the family. I got to pick my kid up from school. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't understand any of this. Yeah. I didn't understand any of this. I was introduced to the reality very soon. Yeah. And it was, it was really awesome shit. Like, I was like, so far, I mean.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You went to $65,000 dollar back? You know what I mean? So then by the time you do American gangster, your second movie, but now Danzel is first on the call list and you're a bit down. Yes. But the thing is, now I actually get to see how number one on the call sheet conducts themselves. Right. And the responsibility, the leadership that comes with that. The tone they said. Yeah. So I was able to actually learn. And not even yet, man, that was a, man, that set was crazy. You had the legendary Miss Ruby Dee. Right. You had a Riza. You had Russell.
Starting point is 01:03:01 You had Russell Crowe Common. You had a chew-a-tale, Idja-4. You had, man, just so many bad motherfuckers on set at one time. And everybody, you know, just vibing. It wasn't no, you know, no ego. Nobody was thinking they were, you know what I mean, more than anyone else. It was just a phenomenal experience. So I'm guessing you're, the way that you were on those sets
Starting point is 01:03:29 was night and day. Well, absolutely. But after the first week of ATL, I kind of got it. Okay. You know what I mean? I didn't continue on like that. I just, it was a learning curve. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And needed a week. Needed a week with the phantom. Did you notice a different way people dealt with you when they noticed, oh, okay, this guy, he has records that I like. He's a rapper. He likes songs. Oh, no, they made a movie that I like. And now, did people start to maybe see you differently?
Starting point is 01:04:01 I saw a difference. ATL, yes. American gangster, that was Denzel shit. You know, more so from American gangster is like, Hey man, I'm watching Denzel and I saw you. You know what I'm saying? Some shit like that. But where I really noticed the difference was the family hustle.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Oh, yeah. Motherfuckers was like, you know, when I told you me and my old lady we had our moments, you know, I'd be minding my business and a little old lady walk up to me, hey, take your ass home to your wife. You know what I'm saying? Well, you mind your business, ma'am? No, you take your ass home to your wife.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You know what I'm saying? So I, that is the most intrusive line of fame and sense. That's interesting. Because they were so vulnerable. That is the most intrusive because you're in people's like homes for real. Like, every day 8.30 like dinner. You know what I mean? Like you're at their fucking dinner table.
Starting point is 01:05:12 How many seasons? was that? 13, 12? No. Shit. And it's your whole family, too. It's not just you. Well, Tip, talk about, and first of all, I want to thank you for giving us so much time today, first of all.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Very cool. Thank you. Man, I came up here, Jeff, for this. I ain't how shit. Oh, man, listen. I was a good. I got some billboards. I got billboards.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I don't know where they're at. Where the billboards at? Oh, you got billboards around New York. Right. Right. Where the billboards at? Times Square. Times Square.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got to go check on. All of the matter of right. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:45 So, but I wanted to say first thank you, and thank you for sharing all these great stories and just always being transparent, giving us a great interview. Man, thank y'all. Thank y'all for listening, because no matter how dope the shit we do is, if you motherfuckers don't listen, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Well, thank you. So thank you all for. And thank you for getting back to these raps and want to put music out and all that shit, too, because you're a legend in the game. I never got away from them. But we wasn't getting them. But yes, you should have been.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Because I got a record I dropped not too long ago, man, and me and Kevin Gates. Bad motherfucker. Really? Check it out. Yeah. Bad motherfucker. Missed.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I missed it. There's a lot of shit that comes out. It's just, I missed it. Well, it's 60,000 songs a day. Right. It's up to 120 now. Oh, my God. The streaming era is crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:24 What the fuck. But I will tell you. Sorry, Lord, but I do want to give you space on the family hustle thing, right? Because fathering, being a parent in public with young children for 13 seasons, I would love to hear from you how much that helped in some ways. Was it cathartic? Was there therapy and things that came out of it? Things you learned, was able to do different.
Starting point is 01:06:51 6040. Okay. 6040 good? 6040 bad. 6040 bad. I would have guessed more bad. Well, you know what? Yeah, I'm going to say that by 60.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Okay, why? Well, for one, it alleviates mystery. You know what I'm saying? Like, if a motherfucker know what you're doing, all the time. They ain't got no reason to show up to see what you're doing no more. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I will be honest with you and say, the intention of it was to show me in a different light. That's after my second prison stint. And after I foolishly made a U-turn in front of a sign that says no U-turn.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Can't do it. On sunset, I make a Utah, I do it every time I go back now. Every time. Yes, I just make sure my pockets are clean. But after the second prison run,
Starting point is 01:07:57 it was like, ah, this nigga, he's just a fuck up. You know what I'm saying? Ah, this nigga is just about these two mistakes he's made. He ain't, he's not serious, right? So coming out of that,
Starting point is 01:08:10 the goal for, for the show was to show me in a different light with family balancing business and you know changing turning my life around so on and so forth so it did that like a motherfucker okay it just did a whole bunch of other extra shit that I wasn't I wasn't counting on you know what I mean some of that is absolutely positive like it showed my family I never knew these motherfuckers were stars like major and fucking even King, Demani, I never knew that they,
Starting point is 01:08:45 like when the camera was just on them and I wasn't in the scene how they opened up in their presentation of themselves. I got to see how they saw themselves.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Which as a parent, we very rarely get to see that. That's interesting. This is how I want to present myself to the camera because I... This is who I see myself at. And when you're around your kids, they kind of...
Starting point is 01:09:10 They just, kind of go into who they think you see them as. Oh, yeah. That's right. Who they think they are supposed to be around you. Wow. You very rarely get a chance to see who your children really want to see themselves as. And so it did that.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And I was like, wow, I never, you know what I mean? I just never really looked at them like that, you know, and it's the greatest family. photo album I could have ever asked for. That's true too. That's worth. What about impact on how the kids grew up in school, etc? Ego, being hot in, you know, being hot in school,
Starting point is 01:09:55 all that stuff. Outside of a famous parents. Yeah, already had famous parents and now they're famous on their own. I think I have to ask them, bro. I think King to me because DeMani pointed this out. King
Starting point is 01:10:11 went to school by himself, public school. Demani and Messiah always went to school together. King, Dacia, like they always went to school by themselves. So I believe there was a heightened level of envy
Starting point is 01:10:29 and jealousy there that he kind of dealt with however he deals with things, you know. Sounded very good as of today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a great kid, though. Like, he really, years. Like, I've seen them do things, you know, that exhibit just a great quality of character. You know what I mean? Like, even when, you know, even when he go too far out there, it's like,
Starting point is 01:10:59 for instance, the Waffle House thing, right? So Waffle House, so the Waffle House thing, you know, I was always big on, hey man, stand up for yourself. Don't let nobody disrespect you, let you, you know what I'm saying? You train people how to treat you. You have to train people how to treat you. And so he's in there, and I don't know if the dude just was upset that he had to work, and King is on fucking live Instagram, and something happened, and I guess the dude threw his order at him.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Well, something happened where he messed the order up, And so King said he ain't wanted So I had to be fit through the bag And so he said come outside Come on outside We're gonna get it on right now Come on outside I'm like bro
Starting point is 01:11:46 Bro You just left a $5 million house In a quarter million dollar car To pull up to the Waffle House Expecting five-star customer service What the fuck is wrong with you He was like nah but he threw the food at me I say after he made it wrong
Starting point is 01:12:04 It wasn't your food anymore why the fuck do you care? You said don't let nobody disrespect me and did it? I'm like bro discernment you must use discernment and now I think he's finding
Starting point is 01:12:19 you know that balance of what is and is not worth you know the time effort and energy that's right that's right just hearing his voice on the phone though like just hearing how he interact with you on the phone naturally in real life you can just hear
Starting point is 01:12:33 the spirit of a good kid Joy to call your dad and say you heard his new single being performed by the Did he send the video though? Did he send the video of the kid performing let him know? I ain't need chick. I ain't eat chick. But you know what I'm saying? He was happy to let dad know that just somebody was performing his song at a random
Starting point is 01:12:49 spot which is so funny right that you'd be hot like it's teahua. He got his little head to the side too. Let me see. A little bro let us know the only thing moving what? Send it to Rassan we'll put it in the video. Yeah, that's dumb. We got to post that. I love that.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah, man. But I love, man, all my kid, bro, we just became, man, so much closer. Once they get through that phase, it's that phase of like 15 to 20. You know what I mean? Because, you know, you're a teenager. Technically, like, you're too old to be considered a kid for real, but you're not old enough to be looked at as an adult. And you're just kind of fighting for respect.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And you know what I mean? And you're still trying to figure yourself out. Right, right, right. So once you get through those years, the rest of it, man, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, I can't describe it. Nothing else, but it's the greatest thing that you could raise, you raise a human to hang out with. I mean, I'm like, I raised the human that now, if ain't nobody I can call me, hey shit, what you doing, man? Pull up, man, let's go in. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:11 That shit is cool. It's been beautiful to see your family grow because we've all seen them grow. I partake, I love all your kids. The Harris is, to me, she's going to be a Broadway star. Man, Aris is the love of my life. I am, I know it's going to, I know that moment it's going to come. Like right now she's daddy's girl,
Starting point is 01:14:32 and I know that moment going to come where she's going to turn. I know she's going to turn. What from being always? Daddy's girl? Yeah, she's gonna turn. You know what I mean? You know, it's gonna be some little schnady nose. Nap-a-head, little boy. I wouldn't even say napahead, because she's in the K-pop. It could be anything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They might share eye shadow. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But times have changed. I just know, I just know that it's going to be a little boy that she going, you know, she's going to side with him.
Starting point is 01:15:09 him over me. And, you know, I just got to prepare for that because he's going to fuck up. He's going to fuck up. That's part of the process. And I'll be here. There you go. T.I. Man, kill the king. We don't have an album date, though.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Not one that I'm sharing, no. Okay. But right now we focused on let them know. Let them know. And it's a new week, so we're not focused on last week. Yeah, last week and last week, man. There we go. It's been a week's worth of nonsense.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I'm trying to get back to, you know, my elevation of consciousness. raising my vibrations, man, and speaking peace and positivity into the world. I love that. And I would enjoy maintaining this for as long as I can. Everybody, please, man, I only want to exist in a positive space. I don't care what else everybody else is doing. I support whatever you're doing,
Starting point is 01:16:08 as long as you ain't breaking in my house. I just want, I just want peace, prosperity, positivity for everyone because that's what I want for myself. And I want to continue to raise my grandchildren, continue to be an example, continue to provide and protect the women and children in my family. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:16:30 That's it. That's all I want. Love that. Y'all got to have the rest of this shit. There it is. Give it up for Tia. Thank you, Chip. Thank you for joining us today.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yo, and that's a show. We need an outro. Hit it. We got a beat. What's that mean? Let him here. Let him here. Start outro.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yo, man, we didn't get to the super chat today because we was talking to Tia. We also didn't get to a lot of things. No, we just got to T.I. Tomorrow is Wednesday, and we'll get to it all. We'll have a Patreon coming later on today. And make sure you subscribe and share and do all the algorithm things. He's a picture's tomorrow, bro. Wait, what's today?
Starting point is 01:17:13 Today's Tuesday. Yeah, Patreon's tomorrow. And then that's Wednesday. That's, you, bro. Thanks, right. Every week. Every week. Every week.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Every week. Don't call it.

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