The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 5.) Kanye Back Outside + Young Break Ups (12/29/25)

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro and Rosenberg discuss how everyone is a Radio Expert, New York Hip-Hop, Saigon Retrospective, The Kanye HH song, the button is back, Ye’s Bucket List, Kanye Back Outside, Palestine Talk, history of the slave trade, Young Breaks Ups, Kai Cenat, and much more! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You know, we're still in the getting situated phase of the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. So much so that we don't even have Laura. She's not situated. No, she's not situated. She's traveling the world and she does. Well, we got some things. have to run through to see if we're going to deal with them or not deal dealer can't deal you like that as a title i don't hate it i don't hate dealer can't deal i don't hate deal or can't deal but i need

some i wanted to go with does it matter i know and then play the rock song it doesn't matter and then he bro's like yo we can play the rock song it doesn't matter and i was like no let's not let's not play the song it doesn't matter is not what you want to do it whatever okay what about to drop though. That, no, that I think works. It doesn't matter. Like, for instance, Nikki Minaj is saying

is no longer on IG, even though she's been off IG, apparently according to some reports long before the Erica Kirk T. Pusa interview. Right. Does anybody care that Nikki Minaj is off social media or at least Instagram? Right. And then we would hit the

It Doesn't Matter drop there? If it doesn't matter. What about the drop I have of the sweet old man who used to call the Kay Show, who has since passed away Morris? What about this drop I have of him showing complete not caring? I see. Now, I think we might get a cease and desist for that. By the way, you never know. You never know.

You might get a cease and desist for it. You're hurting me. I saw the thing about Nikki. I saw the thing about Nikki being off, but I saw she was still tweeting. She was reposting mad T-Pusa. stuff and, you know, getting all the love, taking all, taking all the love in that she was getting, you know, because in her world, when you only hear what you want to hear, it was a huge success. Well, look, listen, I cannot take this at face value.

I cannot take the whole, any of it, any of the T-Pusa marketing, Erica Kirk Talk, I can't take any of it at face value. The whole Christian nationalist, Christian right marketing, getting young people funneled into this organization, finding, creating some sort of tribe and movement of Christian, that white Christian nationalists and all of this and giving them a place to connect with one another while we head into the midterms. I can't take it at face value. And simultaneously, speaking of does it matter, while we're talking about Christians and Nikki Minaj, on Christmas, the United States, well, Trump bombed a state in Nigeria, claiming it was to go.

and attack ISIS. Now the people who live in the area and other Nigerians says there's no ISIS in that area. What is in that area? Rare earth minerals. And it's also co-winky dink adjacent to the Sahel states.

The Sahel states being Burkina Faso, I believe Senegal and Niger who recently just kicked out France. So there's some Western interests aligned here. I'm sorry, I can't take it at face value.

There's nothing you should be able to take a face value at this point. I mean, listen, even under the best of circumstances, taking an international sort of strike like that at face value would probably be stupid. Does anybody believe that this has anything to do with Christianity? Yes, there are people who believe that. Not here. Do you know any of them? No, I don't.

I don't know anyone who believes that. I mean, just like I don't believe anything about what's going on in Venezuela either. On one hand, your man is obsessed with finding all drug dealers and killing them. On the other hand, he's obsessed with commuting the sentences of former drug dealers and letting them bring. Excuse me, Sahel States are Mali Burkina Faso and Niger. Excuse me. A very small percentage of the people listening understand what you're saying. Don't know. Don't disrespect. Our stuff moves around.

These are the what states? These are specific. The hell. It's a region in Africa. It's like a western. It's a, it's a, it's a western region of Africa that doesn't have access to the Atlantic Ocean. But it's, you know, they have rare earth minerals. You know, you know the, you know the what's your take show, the the guy on the subway who interviews people with the subway card? That's right. He had someone on. I'm a. who it was a couple weeks ago and he was like what's your take and they were like it's 2025 they have to change the name

of Niger we can't have we can't do this we can't have we can't have a country that's one G away from a hard R and we're I forget who it was hilarious um so that's all I was thinking about when you said Niger but um yeah I don't think anyone should take this at face value that's why I work

with you because you're always looking for a punchline well we can't that's why we can't have anything What am I going to do? Take everything seriously, every day. It's too much. And notoriously, the amount of sarcasm and dry humor and ridiculous jokes that we've done as a show and that you've done as a host, people honestly have taken a lot of it seriously throughout your history. You know that right?

You think so? Yo, the entire VH1 show that we did, the reality show. People were upset. I always remind myself for this. People were upset that it wasn't a reality show. It was like a spoof, dry comedy based in reality, even though they knew reality shows were fake. But why would they be mad about that?

Because they wanted the real? They wanted a real fake show. They wanted a real fake show Not like y'all Not a trying to be funny fake show Yeah why are y'all play in my face Like people should be fighting It should be the whole thing

Yes it should be drama relationships That you know so they wanted soap opera Well listen if you look around At the conversations that I that we see And we're getting away from the topics of the day here for a second But this was on my radar But the question is does it matter That's right

It matters I keep getting these videos from podcasts that I'm unfamiliar with. Yo, people are experts on radio. I mean, they know what radio is all about. Well, I had to ask myself whether or not it mattered that you were jumping on IG talking about this. Oh, fair.

I just got sick. It's just so many of them. The algorithm knows I want to see it, so it shows me a lot of them. And I just keep seeing it. Yo, man, they were really bad for music, man. Ebro ruined New York music. New York, he killed New York hip-hop, man.

That show didn't break any. music that morning show didn't break any music i i can't take it anymore i how i have never i don't think i've ever felt the need to weigh in with like no i probably have we've probably talked about topics on the air that we were not that knowledgeable about and we listen listen and we were shooting our shot in a few minutes we're bringing back the button for you to fix your lips yeah even act like we didn't talk about things we weren't knowledgeable that's you know what you're right and so i guess Give yourself the button. We can do it early.

We can warm the button up. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. I guess you're right. Because how many times do we do that? We just didn't have an expert to hit us up and go, what are y'all talking about? No, I did. We did.

Either they DM'd us and we didn't respond or somebody texted me. It was like, yo, shut the F up. Yeah, what are you for talking about? Right. So I guess it's a popular topic. You know, even our friends, though. But Jim and Mano, why did Jim and Mano come for? Jim and Mait.

Well, first of all, the clip I saw, Mano did not come. come for us. No, he just tried to get Jim to come for us. He just egg Jim on and was like, yo, I'm into this. Keep going. Yeah, he really did. He's like, this is good content. What were you saying? Well, well, and then Jim, Jim was even like just trying to say something that was like going to get the algorithm going. He was an algorithm hustler because even him, he was like, yo, maybe this does open the door, you know, for more New York music to get supported. Really? How would that work, buddy who are they going to bring who are they going to bring in that's going to start deciding the music and start breaking records in the morning well first of all people don't know that people who

host don't decide what music they play the only person throughout the day who gets spaces to break music were me and flex so let's set that aside everybody and maybe a camillo and a new it to or enough whoever was hosting new it to whatever a DJ on a weekday yes on a week day very small very few spaces to break actual and by the way we actually did it we actually we actually used that time pretty well and played a lot of fun stuff if you could catch it but if you don't listen the morning radio you wouldn't catch it so there's that part wait to you're saying well and also hit us with the button why are we still talking about congratulations you plays yourself i know it's gonna come why why why yeah that was another thing like why are we still it's we dragging it now it's

lie, it's over. And by the way, if you listen to the show, if you listen to the show, we've been talking about it being over for a year. As soon as Trump got elected, I came on the radio and was like, guys, this might be it because they're coming after people. People are out of here this time.

I mean, and before that, don't forget when I got to call this summer of the, uh, hey man, you guys, you guys ever think about being a little nicer to Trump? That phone call happened? Yeah, I told, can you, I forgot, bro. I forgot. No, I told you, we talked about it in detail. And they were like, remember, remember they said to me. That doesn't mean I remember. I said, I forgot. They said, they said, don't you, would you guys be, maybe be interested in having Trump on the show? Because a lot of our listeners like Trump, too. At that time, at that time, and I said, I said, hey, we would absolutely have Trump on the show. But we're going to have the interview. We're going to have. And I doubt the goal that you're hoping to reach here would happen with that interview. I'll just. let you know. I was asked about interviewing Trump, too, and I said, absolutely, as long as you're

okay with me getting into an argument and having an international incident with the president of the United States. Right. And me calling him a white supremacist to his face. But look, but look, well, let's be honest. Mom Donnie fared well. He called him a fascist to his face, pretty much. They became friends. So maybe it wouldn't have been so bad. All right. Now, you're right. It's time for me to stop worrying about these clips of people talking about the show. Well, no, no, no. So what you have to understand, or at least this is the way I process it, is people talking about us means, A, we're relevant, B, they're doing their job to hustle the

algorithm, right? So even as young talent or small podcasters, they're doing the right thing, which is talking about what everyone else is talking about. So hopefully the algorithm picks up their show and gets your attention or gets other people's attention. That's the game. I just wish people were better at coming after Ebro. Like, I can tell you guys all the bad qualities about Ebro.

I have them all. Like, what do you want? Let's go. I'll do a whole interview. I can do a series of interviews. So wait, wait, wait, time out. So you're saying supporting New York hip hop is not one of my bad qualities. No.

And being the death of New York hip hop slash not supporting it, not care. But nobody's going to listen to you. A, you're white. B, you're Jewish. I'm on the show. I'm a chill. See, you're biased. You're, you're, you're a schmuck, cuck. A schmuck and a cuck? Yeah, yeah. I never heard anything like this before. I got to stop caring, though. It's, it's true. I appreciate you caring about me, man. Now, it's, it is, it's partially that. And it's also just like the, the lack of facts. I'm like, you don't understand. Like, Ebro, it just frustrates me that you've never listened.

Like, how about this? Well, there's this part of it, too, that I don't even think people realize. I haven't been in charge of anything administratively programming, music, research, marketing, nothing at that radio station. In a decade. Since 2014. It's 11 years to you and me. It's a long time ago. And by the way, follow the timeline of how things have gone since then. Because they blur it all together.

Now, ever since Ebro showed up. ever since he showed up and then they keep ringing about oh ass sagon i haven't even seen oh i got i got hit with that this because i got into the muck in someone's comments of how this is nonsense and then what year was what year was the whole sagon thing my first year up here was like oh i don't know what year that was oh 7 008 it was oh it was oh 7 or 08 well and most of these people are obviously our age which is why they blur blur everything together which is all also why I'm not sure it matters because when you get our age, things get blurry. Like you don't remember it all becomes the same.

It's the same, bro. Like you don't remember when things happened. And by the way, and by the way, just last note on that, the Saigon thing, the one, and I still like Saigon like we've had it out, we fought, we make up, but he brings it back and I get it. I, I, I understand. Wait, you've talked to him about this incident again? Not, not this time, but like in comments. I commented on his post.

It was the same post where Pete Rock was just going after you, just, throwing dirt on your grave. Never seen anything like in my life. But the one thing that Saigon adds, that's just a little note that's just like a fudging of the story that irks me, is he's like, yeah, and a little dustup happened. And it was nothing. It just happened.

The reason what he did was messed up was he took advantage of my naivete and was like, yo, let me come through and perform, not realize, I mean, knowing full well that I didn't understand. understand at the time the mob deep Saigon dynamics. And so he played, he used my show as a spot for them to clash to get promo for himself. And I didn't realize that their, that their shit was so on site to where he's on stage performing and, and the people in their crew are like, we're going to go knock this dude out. I didn't, why would I ever wanted that to happen?

I didn't know that was a thing, which is my fault. That's stupid also. but he's always just like, yeah, something just happened. Stop, bro. He walked up that night knowing he is a street smart dude. He knew exactly what was going to happen. Well, and is that what? Do you believe that that's what he wanted to happen?

He, hmm, he wanted something to happen. He knew perfectly well that coming out on a show that I was promoting Mob Deep. Mob Deep was the advertised act. So him showing up, the streets would have been like, yo, Saigon popped on stage At dayish Correct Oh excuse my language

No cursing That's right At their joint And he's gonna get credibility off that He knew Something was gonna come from it So now

I want to hit Rosenberg With the button Again Congratulations You plagued yourself Because once again You've dragged us Into the muck and mire

of the internet So that this gets Relitigated And shared yet again Like we can't move forward. No, we got to. And I'm going to tell you, as I think about the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show,

I really want to move forward. I don't know. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. Isn't January 1st a good date? But isn't like, aren't we closing out the year? It's still December 29th. No, no, I understand.

I understand. We're getting there. Mentally, because I think about how often we talked about the squalor of the radio studios on air. Right. How often we talked about the broken equipment and broken elevators and bad bathrooms up there. How often we talked about the lack of investment and all of these things up there. And even talked about you not renewing your deal. On the air.

Like on the air. We were public about this stuff. And so now that it's official, why are we still talking about it? You're right. We did enough beforehand. You know, you're right. It's just, it's a big part. It's a big life change.

Now, now the, the Saigon thing is like a, is a moment in just hip hop kind of lexicon, I guess you will. New York hip hop lexicon to be talked about. So I guess that's a fair, a fair thing to come up. But still litigating the end of the station, you're saying. It's time to move on. Yeah, it's like, it's a, it was a time in history, man. Like, and I. think that I think it's healthy that these things happen.

What I really need to remember is the people who love us who are supporting what we're doing now, of which there's a lot, fortunately, they're not the people who I'm seeing in the algorithm talking ish. Oh, man. So, like, it's the same as always. I just need to let it go. Like, it's never, it's always going to be what it is. We were not for those people.

The people walking around be like, they ruin New York. that y'all don't listen to morning show the show is not only that but we even did we designed the show that was for families we designed the show that was some hip hop and the goingsons you know hip hop was the backdrop it's the baseline yeah but we spent a lot of time having fun about with current events games things we're going to bring back to this platform and hopefully listen i would love to hear from you guys in the comments um are you able to check this out during your commute to work or from work. However, when is the opportune time for you to get to our content these days? When you get in your car, are you able to hit the Bluetooth, throw on the YouTube and check us out and listen to it's while you drive? That's not going to be clear. That won't really be clear until it feels like the top of the year. And like, and when we're live every day, because we're not live right now.

Yeah. So is 8 o'clock live every day? If there is content available every day, 8 o'clock does that work for people? There are going to be some people. I think we should shot. Some people are going to want it earlier, though. Some people are like, I get the car six. Well, we'll have something for you.

I got a plan for that. You got a plan for that. I got a plan for that. So, you know, but by the way, maybe it's about people adjusting their schedules, you know, and they listen to the next days, the next morning at 6 o'clock. You know, like Griffiths saying a lot of, a lot of emails 7 a. And you say a lot, Griff, you're saying four? Probably.

Six emails? No, about 20. Okay. Say, that says 7 a.m. They want 7 a.m. 7 a.m. will have something for you. You have a plan for that. I have a plan for that.

Wow. I got a lot of plans. He's like Joe Biden over here. He's got a plan. Listen, I stay awake. Hey, don't do that. We thought Joe was a sleepy president until the next one got in office. Ladies and gentlemen,

And Kanye West decided he wanted to come outside. I saw this. He was at Dionne Cole's comedy show. He stepped on stage looking awkward, yet smiling. It said he has an album coming. I have heard this to be factual behind the scenes. This is a fact based on individuals I know close to it. Rosenberg has Kanye been gone.

long enough for you to have a have a soft spot for Kanye West. Could you warm up to the idea that you could put let bygones be bygones and move forward and just. It's such a low- Be okay with Kanye. It's such a low bar for Kanye because we love him so much musically. All I need him to do is not say hateful, nasty things currently. and I'll probably be all right.

Now, would I wear a shirt or go buy the new sneakers? That's going to take some amends. Not just the AI version of Kanye sitting with some weird rabbi. We're going to need something more than that for a good. Now, will you go to a Kanye West concert? We're not there yet. Let's move slow. Let's move slow.

Now, what's deterring you from going to a Kanye West concert? until I get real out loud repudiation of what he's done like we can't forget I was about to forget he dropped a whole single called Heil Hitler no it was a single now let me ask you this this is very important it was a song folks based on what based on what we saw the whole timeline of the Kanye West thing the last time I spoke to Kanye West was when he was trying to get Colin Kaepernick to go with him to that notorious White House meeting. And I was like, it's absolutely, I am not, I'm not even, I'm not even passing this. And I am not

connect. I'm, no. And he was pissed. He was like, it ain't up to you. I was like, well, currently it is, because you're asking me for. Right. Not doing it. It's not happening. Now, everybody got to see how that meeting played out. Oh. Which was, would you say the beginning. of the slide. No, it wasn't the beginning. No, it wasn't the beginning. It was the, like, intensifying of the slide.

Okay, the intensifying of the slide. Yes, yes. Are we still convinced that Kanye has ill will towards individuals? Or are we at the place where we think Kanye's issues were a myriad of mental health slash losing perspective on like what's a marketing moment and what's not a marketing moment. Like what was trolling? What was mental health? That's, I think, the part where people struggle.

Yeah, I still struggle there. I don't know that I'm willing to, I'm not willing to put any of it quite in the rear view mirror yet. Got it. He hasn't said anything. Like all he did was literally stand at a comedy show, but he managed to not say anything incredibly like derisive or nasty and we're like hey maybe he's bad i mean he's got to open his mouth first like is he going to come out and say so so the people that i spoke to that are close to the album i encouraged him to never open his mouth ever again that's the best thing he could do is to never

do an interview because if he starts talking he will invariably put his foot in his mouth i don't know i don't know but i think he's more endearing when you don't hear him talking you're not all just music. And hopefully in the music, he doesn't say anything. Yeah, and then, yeah, and then hopefully the music is, is good. And, you know, look, Kanye was always racy in the music, but how Hitler's, let me, I'm going to go out on the limb here, how Hitler as a song is too far. Whoa, Ebro.

Hot take. No, you think that was a bad idea to come out with a song called Heil Hitler. I think so. Whoa, my man. After a lot of deliberation, after a lot of deliberation, I think it was a bad idea. I'm going to go ahead.

But now, I'm going to throw it back to you as someone who listened to the song because I never heard the song. Rosenberg will go to Rosenberg. Oh, yeah. How did you actually feel about the Howe Hitler song? No, it was kind of John Blaze. It was kind of John Blaze.

minus the whole Heil Hitler part of it. That choice was kind of fire. If you can separate... Oh, yeah, if you could separate the fact that it was about, you know, celebrating a man who slaughtered 20 million people, if you can remove that part. By the way, doing it a time when people are really scared

of this sort of mentality in this country, if you could separate that part, nah, the beats were fire. So, but it is, but you know, you know, Baskam just said in our group chat, he said, he said, he said, I was shocked by the round of applause, yay, still received. That is to Ebro's point. The reason he got that reception in L.A. at a comedy club, which is a crowd that would likely be a crowd that would boo him, I think does speak to the fact that Ebro is saying he hasn't

talked. And people are so apt to like him that when you just don't hear him for a while and you're like, oh, Kanye West, I love Kanye. Well, and wasn't there? public discussion about him privately working and trying to figure out, you know, his mental health issues. Like, he's been working on himself. Like, that's a thing. And I think, and in our, listen, there's a lot going on in our society.

Go ahead. A lot going on. I don't know if you know we have a president who says crazy stuff. Offensive stuff. Yeah. Matter of fact, does offensive stuff. and has sexual assault allegations. And the current president is, I mean,

not just in the Epstein files. I mean, he is impeded. He's like the host of the Epstein files. Pretty much. Like other people are guests, but he's like, hey, all right, welcome back to the show. I'm here now. Welcome back to the Epstein files.

We're going to see some Bill Clinton later. Right. We're going to see a lot of people. If Epstein is Johnny Carson, he's Ed McMahon. Yeah, he's there. hanging out with him. He's on the couch. He's on every episode. Feels like that. He's always.

So I think our, I guess our barometer for, for shenanigans, nonsense and offensiveness has, has been challenged. And I think we're open to wanting to forgive people whose transgressions don't meet the current, you know, state of affairs. I'm sorry, I was just sent a horrible headline by Louis. Okay. Anthony Josh. Do we have this just in music? Well, it's not good.

I don't want to even play the music, but Anthony Joshua was injured in a car crash in Nigeria. Damn it. Damn it. Damn it. It's a horrifying car crash in Nigeria that killed two Monday morning less than two weeks after his fight with Jake Paul. Damn it. Well, Anthony Joshua is Nigerian, and there's a lot of people in Nigeria right now celebrating the holidays. So, man, we send love and light.

That is a serious situation. Oh, that sounds horrible. That is not what you want. I hope he's all right. And, man, two people passed away. That's so awful. I was just reading yesterday a headline about Anthony Joshua, like laughing off the prospect of a Logan Paul fight. So when I saw that Louis sent me something, I assumed it was that.

Hmm. And, of course, you don't know how serious the injury is. Oh man, but two people lost their lives, so that's awful. This is all the way sad, all the way around. And isn't it, it's just weird when something like that happens right around the time someone's having like a really big moment. You know what I mean? Like he's top of mind for everyone right now.

It's just, it's just very, that's very weird. Well, those sort of things we've seen in the past can, you know, are so mentally jarring. Like where people lose their life in a, in an, in a, unforeseen way and you're there and you live through it. We've seen that, you know, people not be okay after that. So listen, this is terrible. Can I can't imagine, I'm completely speculating here. I can't imagine Anthony Joshua was driving the car, right?

I assume he was a passenger in the car. But you don't know if the people with him are who. We don't know. So here's some more of an update here. his vehicle collided with a stationary truck according to local media Joshua was in the back of the vehicle when it collided with a stationary truck in social media videos of the site of the accident

you can see the 36 year old grimacing as he attempts to exit the car wreckage so what I fear here he wasn't driving is that we know that and if they hit a stationary vehicle seemingly I would imagine from behind I guess it's likely that the people in the front of his car are the two who may have been killed

yeah we're speculating completely speculate but I got my first speculation right he was in the back seat of the car okay well I'm one for one I mean if you're looking if you're keeping score like hit yourself with the button it's a weird thing to do congratulations you plagued yourself that's just awful man we just sent our best out

that's a horrible situation. All right, Ebo, let me throw some other things at you. Let's pick things up a bit. We were on the Kanye West thing of it all. Did you see Kanye West bucket list that came out? Well, that's where I was going to go after the Dion Coal pop out. That is the bucket list is where it's at. You want to feel good.

Why do you love this bucket list so much? Because if it's him, if it's in fact real, it's just hilarious. Like, and it does. The only thing I found really funny was the final item. Item 36 on the bucket list. Oh, hold on. Let me see. I don't remember what 36 was.

Here we go. Learn it to pole dance. Nah, 35's better. What's 35? Own a pug. Well, you're a dog lover.

Yeah, but that's not hard. Why is it on your bucket list? Like, you're just going to find time. And aren't pugs like, don't they have like sinus issues and things like that? Sure, sure. But I imagine you've got to be prepared for these.

But yeah, has help. You know what I mean? He has help. He wants to be an involved dog owner. Oh, really? He doesn't want to just hand it off to the help. You know what I'm saying? We know he's always very hands-on and his care for people.

He's always doing all the stuff. But there's a lot of stuff on this reported bucket list, though. That's just, hey, man. Well, so I couldn't really enjoy it all the way because I'm like, we don't know if it's his. Once again, it's the softening of Kanye West. Right. You know what I mean? this whole like he popped out of the show and he was awkward and humbling and didn't really talk and

now we're getting a bucket list by the way you're right it is a perfect thing to do like that because it reminds you of his funny idiosyncrasies that's right it reminds you of the lovable weird parts of Kanye that's right and helps you forget about the really detrimental harmful weird parts of con yeah well and that's why i go back to what i was talking about a minute ago depending on where you are on his mental health affecting the behavior or the behavior just being a troll to see what he could get away with and some sort of like social experiment to get canceled and then build back. Right? Because there is a piece of me that, and I think we talked about this during the time where Kanye West was doing the whole MAGA thing and running for president and doing all the things that we brought up how this was a social experiment.

he wanted to tear his whole brand to shreds to see what he could get away with. Like it's all art to him. But then people go, no, he's got a mental health issue. And I'm like, yeah, and I used to remember I used to say this all the time. Does he? Because he definitely knows when to go away. You're right.

And not tweet and be around. He picks and chooses the mental health issues. That's for sure. When it comes and goes. Yes, he can have a mental health issue. And mental health professionals claim his. behavior is, you know, on, on brand or, you know, in line with what having mental health issues like his are.

So I'm not a professional. I don't know. But it just seems like he knows when to stop tweeting and stop talking. I would just like to say that on his bucket list, one of the items is write a book. I would like to see you replace that with read a book. I like to see that on the bucket list. Right. Maybe he said, but see now the softening of Kanye West.

Right. Maybe he has started reading. Hey, that would be great, man. Because he was a self-proclaimed non-reader during this whole last, what, what's a been? Yeah, he's been saying that, yeah, he doesn't read. Now, by the way, for the record, I just want to say, I'm not here to judge you. I'm not a reader either. Like, the difference is I'm embarrassed by the fact that I'm not a reader.

You're proud of the fact that you're not a reader. That's the only difference. I'm a bad reader. Like, I'm good at reading articles when it comes down to sitting down. and truly reading books. I wish I was a better reader. Meaning you wish you had the desire. The desire, the focus,

the ability to read quickly. Yo, my dad, my dad pounds books. Like, it's crazy. What's he doing with books? Come on, man. Janie Vance and Couches, your dad in books. This is crazy. What's happening on.

No, he really does the lie. He, it's, my dad goes to the library. brings back a stack and leaves with another stack and then goes home and goes through the mall and does it again and has been doing it his whole life. Well, he's a smart individual. I don't get. That's why I listen to MJ.

That's also why MJ's been calling out Israel since 1960, whatever. No, no, he wasn't calling them out then. He was fully on board then. So when did he go? When did he throw his hands in there? No, he didn't throw his hands in the air. He started evolving in like, I mean, it started in the 80s. And then like, and then I think really his full like, whoa, I see this completely differently is like 2000-ish, you know, something like that.

So my mom was 1990. It's Akra Bean. I think I told you that before. Yeah, but Rabin was later than 90. It was in late 90s. So yeah, maybe it was around the same time. But that was a big moment for a lot of people. My mom was out.

blame Netanyahu these people are corrupt, racist, I'll never trust them I mean, listen, it was that was a big moment for a lot of people but it was evolving for a long time prior to that but now, you know, now it's different now he feels like he was really lied to

like his entire life so it's like it's a very He's not wrong. He's not wrong. It's a very deep. I got to an argument with him the other day, not an argument like a brief spat because he was saying a friend describes him as you know mj really loves israel he's just disappointed and my dad was pushing back on that and i was like nah dad that that is what it is he's like yes but conceptually he has a problem with the whole thing now so you can't really just

make it as simple as i'm disappointed with what they're doing at this moment because it's like he's disappointed with the entire concept. But I said that's still not unlike America. No, it's not. It's, it's, and that doesn't mean you can't have a lot of love for a lot of pieces there. But he's, it's, he's so overwhelmingly saddened and angered that it's hard for him. But are you, but are, where are you on Israel? Because I feel like you don't even like, you don't, you haven't gone, I've pushed you to be like, yo, you, you, you have to rethink your.

I have. I mean, I have. I have, I have, I have, I've, I have rethoughted. I, I, I firmly believe that all of it was essentially a lie. It doesn't change very much for me. It's just like America. So it's like, yes, wow, the whole way that they marketed to Jewish people in the diaspora is so messed up. Like it was so messed up and it was so effective. And it made all of us, you know, feel this. incredible connection to the place um and that's so messed up and and now we're seeing you know and maybe you know Netanyahu may have there may be a silver lining to Netanyahu and that he's so bad that he's truly allowed everyone to see the worst of what the design was of the place well they just had a big blow up how do you say it the Knesset yep the Knesset so basically in Israel, they're trying to investigate and have been investigating and almost convicted Netanyahu before October 7th.

But now they're still trying to have an independent investigation into October 7th and how that even happened. Rosenberg and I have been saying for a couple of years now that October 7th, there's so much security and surveillance, that should have never happened. It doesn't make any sense. It makes zero sense. And they were getting all kinds of warnings.

It's like this isn't like, you know, us being wacky conspiracy theorists. They were, they literally had people who were watching everything happening saying, hey, guys, we're seeing, we're seeing some stuff. This looks like an operation is happening. Hey, guys, we're seeing movement here. And they were ignoring it. And guess what? The craziest thing is those women, it was a battalion of like women who were doing the security, they all. got killed. Wow.

They were the ones sitting there watching it and then they got killed as everyone showed up. They watched them coming. These were not armed militia. They were just security forces like watching on computers. And they're like, hello, hello, hello, is anyone going to help us? So you had that. They're not even alive to report on it. No. But you have, but they did report on it. People know it. There were also warnings from other countries. Wasn't Egypt? There were like other countries warning that being like, hey, we're seeing things here that don't look good. So just this weekend or in the last week this weekend, other politicians in Israel were turning up in the Knesset, which is I guess the, it's like the Congress.

Yes. And they were getting escorted out because Netanyahu's trying to push a bill through to take the independent investigation off the table is the way I read it. Yeah. Pre-President Yahoo is proposing he oversee a commission. Yo, tell me that ain't. Doesn't remind you of someone. He's proposing that he oversee the commission

to determine the scope of an inquiry. No, it's bad, bro. It's bad. So it's going to be a, the fight there continues. And the families, of course, the October 7th families, they're the ones who are really fighting and calling for justice and asking for help here.

Because they don't feel like they're getting the end. to what happened to their loved ones. Like, if you've ever been to Israel, and I haven't been to Israel since the mid-80s, but my family's, you know, everyone who's ever spent any time there, you do not go far. I know this sounds very, like, alarming,

but it's part, you're just used to it, it's part of life there. You don't go far without seeing IDF soldiers with guns on them. They're everywhere. You're used to it. It doesn't feel weird. It's just part of the nature.

They have soldiers walking around with guns around their neck, everywhere. and the idea that multiple places could be getting attacked and there was no one nearby who was even able to get there. Ebro, you remember that one story of that kibbutz where they showed up and started killing people and no one showed up to the point that the father and grandfather of one of a family there

drove from like three hours away with a handgun himself and saved his family. I do I vaguely remember that story like three hour drive showed up and military still hadn't got there it makes Israel's not that big a place it does not make any sense well shout to the

to the families and the politicians trying to find the truth yeah yeah you know it's a long road look here in the United States you know the the fight for honesty transparency and the truth is who can take generations bro i i saw a clip this week of Tucker carlinson talking to matt gates yo do you know how triggering it is for me when i hear these right wingers

laugh off january 6 like it wasn't a big deal and act like the left is hysterical and talking about aOC saying what she does in terms of like her anger about january 6 is quote performance art. And what Tucker Carlson is currently doing as he pivots to try to, you know, get a home and cutter and embrace, you know, the, the questioning of American allies, including Israel, and be more thoughtful about, I don't know, inclusion of Muslims and Islamic nations in his travels and all of this nonsense. and you expect me to believe, after all of this stuff you did, Tucker,

you expect me to go ahead and act like this new version of you is not a grift. It's a grift. Of course. I know. I love that it's, it is definitely a grift. And I love that with the right winger's, how do they show that they're not exactly like the rest of them?

Oh, it just happens to be hating Israel. That's the one thing they can do. It's interesting. But Rosenberg, we are just haters. We're just haters. We don't care. We're not getting the bag. We're haters.

We don't work hard. That's it. Bottom line. We're not willing to have the conversations. Yeah, bring people together. We're divisive. Oh, I saw, I saw you post that last week. That got me hot, too.

Not the Candace Owens spreading the Jews ran slavery situation. Yeah. Oh, that's, but listen, she's not. not an anti-semi. She's not. No, she just happens to be an Israel critic because she cares about the people of Gaza. And she happens to say, let's take a look at slavery. Even though there's no proof from a credible place that Jews ran the slave train, she's pumping out classic propaganda. But she's not, she's no Jew hater. It's so crazy, too, because people fall for it. Oh, it sounds so logical. It sounds so easy.

People fall for it. The slave trade was about making money for elites that wanted to make money. Who were white, whether they were Catholic, Christian, Jewish. Oh, and oh, by the way, you know who else made a lot of money in the slave trade? Muslims. You know who still participated in the slave, participates in the slave trade? People who are Muslim. It's still going on right now.

So you're saying it wasn't done by one religious group. It wasn't a religious movement. No, no. Candace knows, though. She's done the research. And I think it's important to point out. It's important to point out. And I think history will support me here.

It's hot take. Go ahead. Every religion and group of people has terrible human beings in it. Wow. That's what you're saying? You're going with that? Every group has bad people. No, no, no.

Listen. This is crazy what you're saying. I was from downtown, baby. You hit the three. Mike drop. We might have to close this episode on that. You're saying all groups have bad people? Yeah.

Yeah, but that doesn't hit the algorithm, right? That doesn't start spreading around and get the shows. That's not algorithm hustling. that's not getting the shares come on man you know candace got to get these shares that's right get this this podcast ranking up are you getting the are you getting tons of videos uh a normal person says i miss my husband Erica kirk and then like a it shows crazy I can't even yell them Erica kirk digital marketing campaign the t pussa campaign I need their marketing director right now for this ebro laurenberg show because even the ones

are making fun of her. It's all definitely part of the marketing, right? No, no, no, because if your algorithm hustling right now, you're talking about Erica Kirk because it's going to get shared. If you're trying to get into algorithm and get seen, Erica Kirk is the confound. And so, A, there's one side of it where it's like, yeah, let's talk about Erica Kirk because it's a scam and a sham and she is a,

like there's nothing credible about the whole thing. There's that part. Then there's her history, which is, I mean, bananas. It's interesting. No, no, no. The pieces I've seen are interesting. I need, I need Gwen Stefani going, this is bananas, B, A, and A, N-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-S.

What are you referring to, the past partners? The past partners, her being banned from a country because she was a part of some organization that was like trafficking kids and something. Like, she was, I think Romania was it or something like that. like, yeah, bro. Yes. She's just a grieving widow, bro. And then my favorite comment

was people saying, what part of the grieving process is WrestleMania? No, it's, now that's my favorite line. Because then she walks out with, you know, pyro techniques and parochelia. Oh, it's fire. At the T-Pusa jump off.

It's like Cody Rhodes walked in the building. No. No, it's crazy. The market is crazy. And I'm, serious. If there's someone from T-Pusa that does their digital marketing, give us a call

because I want it. No, we need to get it. Because if we want to really get things cracking and get in the algorithm, that's what you need right here. No, you've got to have it. We've never seen anything like this in our lives. Before we wrap up, there's a few other things you sent. Griff loves T-Pusa, but... No, T-Poosa's hot. T-Poosa's

very, very hot. Let's see, let's see. We didn't talk about Tyler Perry getting sued for sexual battery and sexual assault and I went and read the whole thing. Okay. Give us, give us to give us. Nah,

bro. Listen, I don't know if what happened is worth $77 million. Yeah. But I will say the dude, the dude who is accusing him. If those text messages are real, listen,

it's not like the worst thing you've ever seen. It's just big time creepo. Like it's just, he's just a big time. But it's not worth 77 million. Listen, to me, being a creep And wait, what word did you use? You said sexual harassment or sexual assault?

Well, it's both because there is like physical touching. Okay. He did, no, he did. He touched the guy. And they were not in a consenting relationship. No, it was, he was a guy who was all working on set. And then, and Tyler Perry hit him with him some, hey, you know, I can, I can really, I can really change your career.

I'm a good person to know. he hit him with the I'm a good person Yeah, he hit him with the I'm a good person to know He rubbed his shoulders and started moaning And then hit him with a rib-a-d-diff? And then there's and then But then the embarrassing part is just the shared text messages Because like you just see how pathetic

It's just they're so pathetic Now I will say this in defense of Tyler Perry This makes come a surprise This is a very good looking man Not Tyler Perry The guy he was sexually harassing Listen Rosenberg Hit yourself with the button

This guy's very handsome. No, no, no, hit yourself with the button. Hold on. That is, that's not appropriate. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. Saying, saying, I understand where he's coming from. This guy's hot. Not.

I think that's not what you want to do here. No, you're probably right. That's not what you want to do. Now, speaking of sexual assault and, and, and, and, uh, criminal activity, uh, Justin and Christian Combs are doing their own documentary. I saw that. I saw also a headline that said Christian Combs said that when he sees 50 cent, he's going to snuff him. Congratulations.

You plagued yourself. I wanted to encourage Christian Combs to retract that statement. We don't need to do that. No, I don't think that's, I don't think that's the move. I, for a variety of reasons, that's not the move. And also, well, and if I'm 50 cents, I feel threatened. Now you might sue. Because, you know, 50 might suit.

You know, 50 will run a lawsuit up. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Especially if he knows there's some money to get. But can I ask, why did they do this show? I think there's a lot of, I like the idea of the kids doing the show. Okay. Good for them. They have a right to tell their story and they've been dragged into all kinds of nastiness.

Well, and I want to let Christian and Justin know. I think, well, Zeus, I think Zeus has got a lot of views, bro. I mean, a lot of people on there, bro. Really? I just feel like you could have done it with a real network, respectfully. But maybe they wouldn't have the freedom that they wanted. Maybe they wanted a level of freedom in. And ownership.

Maybe they just wanted to be the lead in for the next Chrison Rock project. Nah, but listen, man, people watching Zeus, man. Don't do that. We might end up, but you telling me if Zeus gave us an opportunity to broadcast, we wouldn't go on Zeus? I've never, I've never really seen Zeus like that. Never opened the app in my life. So I don't know.

But instead of being up here hating on people getting bags, Rosenberg, maybe we need to open our minds a little bit. You know what? Maybe you know what? I take it back. I want to be on Zeus. Griff says if they open the wallet, he'll open the app. All right. I don't even know if we're John Blaze enough to be on Zeus, sir.

No, no, we're not. We don't have the streets. We're not. Not the way I ruined hip hop in New York. You being Jewish. Nobody wants to see that on Zeus. Facts. Also, last story.

saw getting noise was Northwest gets slammed for having diamond grills. Yo, can people stop? Can you guys out there stop treating Northwest like she's a regular? Like she's a regular 10 or 11 year old. Please stop. It's over, guys. They're like, let her be a child. Guys, she is literally one of the most famous children on planet Earth. Her being regular was never in the plans. and she clearly clearly even at 10 11 years old wants the life of her parents this is what she wants stop getting upset when she shows a grill because you're like i wouldn't give my child a diamond grill well you ain't kim and your husband ain't and you ain't and you ain't got diamond grill money so stop stop acting everyone oh my god the the pearl clutching over northwest she's not a regular

Well, so now when we close out today's show, Rosenberg, I want to close out. Oh, she's 12, I'm told. Yes, she's 12 now. I want to close out with the big Kai Sinat breakup. Oh, boy, I heard about this. This is big. Now, he tweeted that he'll never do relationships again. He's clearly, you know, I don't know if the girl I saw talking on the internet,

if that's valid or that was just some random. I'm not close enough to the story. Okay. But what I wanted to focus on was how Kai Sinai was emoting about the breakup because you, sir, are someone I think who can relate. You're saying the way he was grieving online, it gave Rosenberg? It gave big Rosenberg vibes. Okay. I couldn't relate.

That doesn't sound good for him, by the way. Any of my breakups were before social media. And generally speaking, most of the time, people hated my guts in a breakup anyway. So it wasn't really like I didn't see it coming. Kind of like, kind of like, well, you just got like. Congratulations, you played yourself. So, um, I wanted to throw it to you for the close.

On the Kai Sinat break up Rosenberg. I don't know what you've read, what you know, but I think as an OG, that's an original guru. Yeah. You may have some, have some insight for Kaasanaat. Well, listen, it sounded like he was very upset by this whole situation. To the point, to put to the point that he said he's literally never dating again.

Okay. So have you been there, sir? Quickly. Have I been? Have I been like I'm never doing this again? Yes. I don't know. I'm sure I said it to myself, but I don't, I didn't mean it.

And I can't imagine he means it. I mean, he's been with the girl for like a year. And listen, at that time, you know, at that age, a year, it feels like a big deal. All right. All right. He's like 22, right? I'm checking. I want to make sure.

Kaisenot age. Kaisenot. 24? 24. 24. Listen, a year at 24 is a big deal. I had a breakup. My breakup at 25 was a big deal. It was bad. I made a mix tape where I'm standing inside a grave. Wow. Yes. You remember that, right? I remember that. I'll say they can post it right here. Yo, this. Wow. Look at that. No, it's crazy. I was standing inside a grave. And this was after, I want to clarify, this is after a breakup of how many years were you with the person?

I was only with the girl for, I was, I was with the girl for like a year and a half, but she had been like my, she had been like my crush throughout college. And then I got her and I've messed it up and I lost her. By the way, then she came back around. I decided to stay with my ex instead. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. But I guess everything happens for a reason, right?

That's why we're here today. That's why little Maya is asleep in the next room. So, um, this, so what I'm saying is, Kai, don't dig a grave for yourself. But listen, you're going to be down for a while. This is like a standing eight count situation. You got to just sit here and stand and take the pain for a little bit and breathe this one out. So now, the day time.

The girlfriend, according to the internet, is named G.G. Alleya. Hopefully I'm going to pronounce your name right. Kai says he's single sparked rumors of Gigi cheating with NBA young boy. But she has denied that. She's denied this. He legitimately denies it and says Kai knows the truth. Okay. But his vagueness doesn't help the circulation of the rumors.

Right. He probably needs to come out and say, nah, she didn't cheat. It's not like that. But he's leaving it vague because clearly he sees this circulating and he wants her to get that smoke. Because he's just unhappy they broke up. He's pissed.

Now, I will say this. If that part was true, I've never been through that. I've never been through you lost your girl to NBA young boy. That I've never been. a new, that's a wrinkle. That's a wrinkle. Okay, have you lost your girl to somebody who maybe is equal status of you?

I've never, I've never lost my, status. I've never lost my girl to a person. I know this is me very disappointing to the DJ academics fans out there, but I've never actually lost my girl to a person. I've just lost them to myself. I've always lost them to myself. And then, now listen, then they end up dating a person,

and that is the, oh, I mean, when that happens, you know, I famously told the story. that when I called my high school sweetheart, we've been together for six years. We broke up because of me. I was on my Donnell Jones where I want to be era. Yeah.

And then I decided I didn't like that very much. And I kept calling her. And when she had picked up the phone one day and she said, Peter, I'm with someone else. Stop calling me. Damn, you were still sweating her. No, I fell on the ground. Hit yourself with the button. Hit yourself.

Congratulations. You played. No, I fell on the ground. I was rolling around on the ground. Wait, you were still, first of all, I mean, multiple, there's multiple. buttons here. You're still calling the girl. She had to tell you to stop.

Once we broke up for the Donnell Jones where I want to be thing, we stayed friendly for a while. And when you say Donnell Jones where I want to be thing, it's not because you thought you were Donnell Jones. I thought I was Donnell Jones. I had never been with anyone else and I needed to be outside. Got it. Okay. And then as I quickly learned, outside wasn't as dope as I expected.

Yeah. And I'm still friends with her. And so everyone and a while we would still you know talk we'd even see each other you weren't trying to get back with her no but i still was treating we were still something there was still like whatever there was were you were you and then and then when she hit me with the hey stop calling where are you i'm with someone up by the way and the crazy thing is just to show you how women are great like how women are crazy oh now it's her now she's crazy look at this but we did but we did end up smashing one more time when after that we saw each other in new york on some trip when she was with her new guy, all right?

She was with them. She was serious. She cheated on you, on him with you. Yo, and literally treated me like trash. She basically was like, come here. Let me get this real quick. And then afterwards, like I, like it was like a weird women. I just want to do what I want to do.

And that's what I want to do right now. And then she, but then she went on and had a serious relationship. But that was the beginning of them. They were together for a while. And, yeah, then we became friends. You never text, you never text her and said anything. crazy like how dare you treat me like how dare you use me no I was happy to be used to me yeah you're on your man you didn't reach out I sued him I sued him thought keep it real you thought

about DM and him and tell him what happened well the DM didn't exist at that time sir so I would have had to like call his home phone but it was you know what I'm saying no I sued her for 77 million I said I won't be treated like this but but that was listen my point is Kai you're gonna get through it but it's hard is a very hard time you know that the the the the the the the sure we just showed of me standing in my own grave. That was like the last inside joke that me and Mac Miller had because him and Ariana Grande had broken up. And I said, don't worry, bro. You're going to be better than me. And I sent him the picture of me in the grave. Yo, he laughed. Oh, he fucking loved. Then he'd randomly, he would randomly just text me back a zoomed in

picture of my face from the cover. Like he fucking loved it. That's when I knew he was doing good. Because I was like, if you're able to take this joke and see why this is funny, I know you're in a good spot. Well, look, I don't want to, I don't want to disrespect Matt because we love him, rest of peace. But I also don't want to dovetail away from focusing on you. And what a disaster I was. And what a disaster you are. And hopefully this makes Kaison not feel better. And I'm going to tell you one last thing, Kai.

In 2018, actually, I was at Mac Miller's funeral and people. Pittsburgh and I got together with a family friend and the friend was telling me about his high school sweetheart. He's a kid. He was like going to college and I told him the story I just told you about calling my high school sweetheart or saying I'm with someone else. I don't want to be with you and me being on the floor in pain and I told him that story and I was like man what a crazy time and I was laughing and I didn't know one week later I'd be back there again. Wow. You never, you never know.

You think it's never going to happen again. And you're like, well, it's going to happen again. But then it happens again. Well, it can stop happening if you stop being the person that's causing it to happen. Congratulations. You played yourself. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I did.

So I've done the work. It will not happen again. We'll see. Listen, we'll see. I've listened. I don't, please don't stay tuned for this to see if I, if I, if I, if I, mess up my life? Listen, to be continued. To be continued.

All right, that was fun. Because if you mess up now, bro. Oh, man. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. I don't even know if we have a button big enough. There's no, no, there's no button big enough for that. Although people do it every day. It's amazing. Subscribe, share, tell a friend. Give us some feedback.

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