The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 60.) Family Matters, Friday Freedom + DJ Quicksilva Talks About the Killing of "Big Sam" (3/20/26)

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are ⁠discussing the killing of Big Sam⁠ "Samuel Brown" with DJ Quicksilva and his lawyer, Family Matters, Friday Freedom, Mamdani ducking the show, and so much more! (3/20/26) Support the show on Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just don't call in a podcast. The Ebro-Lora Rosenberg shows. Yeah, you're. Okay. Bam. I was informed this week that because we got some new technology, we got a new soundboard. Oh, yeah, baby. We got some EQing issues on Laura's mic.

Let's get a mic check. One-two, one-two, one-two. We're working on. That mic sounds good, yes. Yeah, we got to get. give Laura some resonance. All right. You know what I mean?

We got to EQ her mic. We got to add some mids and some lows to Loris Mike. I don't know why that sounds like a pause and a joke to me, but it doesn't. Add some bits and loads to Laura's Mike. No. It doesn't. It doesn't. It's really this.

Congratulations. He plays yourself. Oh, it's funny to me. Are you guys following or did you guys follow this week the mom Donnie's story? Which one? There's so many. The one about the property and the like the gifting of property and that whole thing. That was big because of 50 cents.

Right. So he posted something saying, is this real? Right. And it was a black woman talking about if your property's over and she's a conservative kind of pundit on social media, talking about if you live in New York and you're in the death tax and if you're a gifted property and how that works out in this new mom, Donnie, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But obviously it doesn't get into the fine print like we've seen with most of these anti-Momondani campaigns of actually understanding what he's actually proposing. I just didn't even know if you saw this.

I did not spend time with this. Laura, you were in. Yeah, it was big in my algorithm. A lot of people were sending it to me asking me if this is true. Like, you got to look into it, guys. And then I had a nice chat with our friend. I'll call him a friend of the show, even though he hasn't been on the show, but wants to be on the show. Yeah.

What's it? Mentally. divine official. Yes, yes, yes. He actually made a video breaking everything down, kind of explaining it a little bit more thorough. That's number 12 to me and you there, Rassan Bascom, on this Friday Family Matters show.

Ah, Family Friday, Fought Friday, Fart Friday. It's important, though. You have it? The numbering system isn't as fast as I didn't speed anything up. Billionaires are mad that Maldani's about to tax the fuck out of them, and they're using the media to rage bait you, to fight their battle for them. This is the headline coming out of the MAGA-owned New York Post,

which, by the way, is owned by 95-year-old Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal. And of course, the headline is, Extreme Mumdani Estate Tax Proposal goes right after New York middle-class families. So, of course, I pulled up the exact two-page document to read it for myself

because I actually appreciate primary sources. In this two-page document, you can see the Mamdanias proposing all the shit he's been saying about taxing the rich from the fucking beginning, including a 2% tax increase on anyone making over a minute, $1 million, increasing the corporate tax rate 1 to 2%, increasing the New York City unincorporated business tax rate for businesses making over $5 million, a 1% surcharge on residential properties

with a market value of over $5 million, a 1% real property transfer tax on transactions over a million dollars, and a city and mansion tax on properties over $5 million, all of which would generate billions of dollars for the city. None of this was ever highlighted in the article, and let me also say that a lot of people read the headline and ran with the misinformation instead of reading the actual memo because the one line that they did highlight was this one line at the bottom of the page that they then took completely out of context. The memo specifically proposes an increase in the estate tax. An estate tax is a tax on what you leave behind when you die.

This is not a tax that you pay while you're living. It's not coming out of your paycheck. It's not hitting your savings account. And it triggers exactly once after you're gone on wealth that you're no longer using and leaving behind. Well, and then he goes on to explain how the tax breaks down and it's not significant at all. But it didn't sound super significant. No, it's not. But it ran all week. People were running with it all week.

The anti-momdani movement and also there's a New York Times article and we can get into this next week because I got to watch this play out. Remember the whole mom, Donnie Hokel. Now we got the 3K. You know, she funded the child care stuff. More seats for 3K. More seats for 3K. There was a whole thing at the inauguration.

people who are anti-Hocal, who have now abandoned supporting Mom Dani to some degree because he's close with Hocal, all within the Democratic Party here in New York State. So there's a whole faction working against Mom Dani and the Democratic kind of base because of how he's playing politics with Hockel, with Trump and others.

So it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. As if he's not supposed to, he... He's trying to get things done. What do you expect him to do? Yeah, but realistically. But Laura, on the flip, play devil's advocate. Okay. Because I know what the listeners love when I do that.

If you're a hardcore lefty, like for real hardcore, like, I don't know, more hardcore than us, not capitalist at all, I don't know. And you see him glad handing with these people in any way. They see that as a violation of the person that they voted for. They, if they were really thought he's going to completely upend the system, I think they were naive. Yes. He's not running for mayor. You know what I'm saying? And this is what the job is.

But I can see how they're like, yo, now you're at the White House acting friendly with this guy. There's a reason behind it. We see the forest through the trees. Although I will say, I like to hear for the mom-dani people. We've been trying to get them on now for two months. So I will say,

oh, Rosenberg. Yo, somebody start the clock. Start the clock boys and girls. I'm not going to lie. Like, I'm annoyed too. I've been very active. And like the weeks come and it was, could you guys come here? So let me ask you, though.

Don't have honest, honest mom, don't. We're not on a New York broadcast. No, I get it. Any longer. And they knew that going into it. I was, we had talked before the phone call came from the powers that be. I told Mom Donnie's people, heads up guys. We're about to be on our own.

That's where we sense this thing is going. We hope that we'll still have you guys be a part of what we're doing and vice versa. Absolutely. We know what you guys mean. They get it. They're just not getting it done. So, you know, let's get it done. Let's have the conversation.

So Rosenberg, we got a special guest on this family fight Friday. What do you got? Well, I thought this was the perfect place to do this because this is a family issue. I was on social media a few weeks ago. Okay. And I'd just been talking to my guy, Quicksilva, because he started a podcast and we talked about doing a podcast. Quicksilva was a legend from the DMV, one of the best DJs you all ever hear.

And he started this podcast. We were chatting about doing something. And then I saw that he posted that his manager and best friend Big Sam passed away. And then he started writing hashtag justice for Big Sam. So I hit him up and I'm like, what the hell happened to Big Sam? And it turns out that Sam was killed during an interaction with the police. Oh, my God. So I saw the video.

It did not look good. and I asked Quick if you wanted to come on with the lawyer, Bill Murphy, and chat about what's happening. And so they're joining us right now on Fott Friday. DJ Quicksilva and Bill Murphy. Quick, thanks for joining us to making some time, man. Thanks for having us. That's my lawyer, Billy, Billy Murphy.

Billy Murphy. Billy Murphy. What up, Billy. Thanks for joining us, sir. So Quicksilva, first of all, I want to send, you know, love and like to you and all the family and friends affected by. by Big Sam's murder. And I want to start with you.

Where is the case at now? And what do you need the public to do? First, I want to say, thanks for having me on this morning. It means a lot to take time out of your schedule. You know, Samuel Brown is his name because I want to say his name, Samuel Brown. But the world knows him as Big Sam. This has been my partner, best friend since 1994. Here's the reason that I'm even a DJ.

The first club I ever mixed out of my life was a club to him and his family own back in 94. So to have someone that's be a part of your life and your career, your entire life, that died at the hands of a Baltimore County police officer by the name of Derek Hato. It's beyond frustrating. I'm angered. Any other emotion you can think of because at the end of the day, Samuel Brown should be alive. Just to give you a quick background, this was a wellness check that day he got called in, the officer. And I always say a wellness check, no matter what's going on, shouldn't end in your death.

At the worst, it's an ending you potentially being locked up if you're wrong or drunk or something like that. But you should never die at the hands of a police officer. And this police officer struck him twice in the face, which caused him to fall back hit his head, be brained in a coma for over a week, and then eventually he passed away by the hands of the officer Derek Hado. With two illegal blows, might I say. So if you look back at the tape, it just is so many gaps and holes in it. And once again, our lawyer, Billy Murphy is on here. He's been doing a great job of handling the legal portion.

But my goal is just to get the word out for people to really do their research on this case. Because unfortunately, an edited video came out on social media. And people tried to paint the narrative that Sam got poured over and he just got out the car to nowhere. And he attacked the officer, which we now know is not the case, according to the. the police report and the details that we have from this. But we do know at the end of the day, the cop should have arrested Sam if he felt like Sam was endangering his life or anything like that. But once again, that's not the case. So I think right now my goal is just to get people to know about this case, know his name, Samuel Brown. And as of this second, this moment,

we are waiting for the attorney general to decide if they're going to press charges on Officer Derek Hato. He's now on administration. leave pending in an investigation. But, you know, my stance has been since day one. I'm not sure we're investigating because we know for a fact the illegal actions that he took led to Samuel Brown's death. Billy, is that, is the way quick there described it accurate in your eyes as well? What did the officer do in your eyes here? What should have happened and what did happen? Okay. The officer had the obligation to de-escalate the encounter. That's the law in Baltimore County. That's the law in Maryland. And he did the opposite. When he first encountered Big Sam, he slammed the door in his face. And it went downhill from there. Big Sam then got out of the car. The officer tried to push him back. Big Sam swatted his hands down. And on the second swat, the officer unloaded on.

him like he was in a street fight. He hit him with a hard right hook to the face and immediately thereafter a hard left hook to the face and he hit him so hard he broke bones in his face, including his nose and so hard that he slammed him to the ground and fractured his skull when he hit the ground. He started bleeding profusely, quickly thereafter and never recovered from the coma that he was in and ultimately died. It's a brutal encounter. Police shouldn't be punching people in the face. They should, he could have backed away.

He could have used mace. He could have used pepper spray. He could have arrested Big Sam, and Big Sam would still be alive today. Oh, no, but he had to go into the street vernacular and punch him viciously and brutally in his face. Because one of the narratives was, and according to the police report, it said that Samuel Brown struck Officer Derek Hedle twice. Once again, that is not a fact.

If you look at the actual video, when Officer Derek Hado put his hand on Sam and told him to get the F back in the car after asking him. Because according to the police report, Officer Derek Hado opened Sam's door, asked him was he okay? Then he asked Sam to step out of the car. Sam at that point said, I'm not stepping out of car. Like if I'm arrested, arrest me, but like, what am I stepping out of the car for? Officer Derek Hato continued to ask him a step out of the car. He got into his feelings because Sam didn't. At that point, he escalated it by slamming Sam's door.

I've never heard of a wellness check ended in the office. Even if you think the person is drunk or anything, on a wellness check, you don't slam a person's door. Sam thing out the car with his hands behind his back to show I'm not a threat. I don't have any guns or weapons on me. And then when the officer put his hand, this is the most important part because the narrative has been that Sam hit the officer. And according to the police report, it says, with a close fist, Samuel Brown punched the officer. He did not.

When the officer put his hand on his checks, Sam went like this to swipe down to move his hand, and he missed. That is the most important part that people are missing, because according to the police report, it keeps saying that Sam struck the officer twice. Sam never, ever hit the officer. Sam never went to punch the officer. Sam told the officer,

get off of me and tried to swipe down, but the most important part is that he actually missed. both times. So when people go back and watch the video now that I'm saying this, you can be like, oh my God, I didn't realize Sam missed. On both times, if you miss, if you feel like I assault to you as an officer, the law says, you arrest me. That's what the law says. You arrest me. The law does not say you have permission to punch me in the face. Well, and I think those are the, I think those are the things that often get lost in these cases is the responsibility of the law enforcement person to follow code and conduct.

And prior to you coming on, Quicksil, you know, we've often on this show and going all the way back to George Floyd talked about an issue in the nation, which is this qualified immunity clause that often allows officers to avoid criminal prosecution

and sometimes, and civil as well, because of them being on the job. And, you know, we've often felt and discussed that if that was able, to be removed, officers would be more responsible because what ultimately happens in these cases is officers aren't held accountable. Right. Maybe they're fired, but somebody was killed here.

And then taxpayers end up having to pay for the mistakes of these officers. And the officer doesn't go to jail. Taxpayers, family lost a loved one. Taxpayers are out of money because of officers continue. mistakes and so we're just in this constant cycle of people who actually have a responsibility to follow code and conduct

not doing so, money being paid, lives being lost and nothing being solved. And not to mention how many officers relocate to other places after being caught up doing something and another precinct will just take them. Start up. Start up.

Yeah, go ahead. This is so important to notice because these are some of the narratives that are out there on social media with these social media lawyers that think they know the law. Just from talking directly to law enforcement and so many other people that actually work in law enforcement, they made it very clear that Officer Derek Hato ignored his training because people are saying that, well, Sam shouldn't have got out the car and Sam shouldn't have been trying to swap the officer's hand down. Okay, let's just say you're right. You're absolutely correct. Got it. But the law says you arrest him. That's what the law says you arrest him.

And the most important part to add to this, when Sam incident happened, 12 hours went by before they even notified me or his family that he had been in an altercation. When we got to the hospital, these are the facts that people are just alienating. When we got to the hospital, we were told that Sam got pulled over. Once again, he didn't get pulled over. He was asleep. He was asleep. He fell asleep at the wheel. So he never was driving.

The officer came and Sam was sleep. on a wellness check when he woke him up asked him and he'd been drinking Sam said I'm good officer said I smell liquor step out to the car when they finally after all the altercation happens and he punches him illegally and then they shackle him by the way they put shackles on his feet like he was a threat after he's sitting there after 12 hours we get a call and the police I wish I got his name but I did not but the police officers when I arrived we asked what happened and they told us that he got out of the car being aggressive Um, an altercation happened with the officer.

And due to that altercation, the officer had to use force. And Sam slipped on ice and hit his head. So he just lied to you. So we went back. There was no ice. There was no slip and fall. And why did y'all not tell us that you punched them twice? And I always say, if you leave with a lie, there has to be more lies.

Of course. And these are the facts of the case that people just don't know. It's like, we were told that this happened from a slip and fall. It was only about the grace of God that I look. one of the nurses in the face and said, all this happened from a slip and fall? And their exact response was, legally, I can't tell you what happened,

but I can tell you one thing, you need a lawyer. If they wouldn't have told me that, Sam would have died, and we would have thought it happened from a slip and fall, not that Officer Dark Hedle illegally punched him in the face twice what led to him hitting his head. We put him in a coma for a week, and then he died. Unreal. Well, Silva, I'm sad you have to deal with this to Sam's family.

You know. Yes, six kids. What daughters and two sons? Yeah, to the children and family and brothers, sisters, everybody, the community has affected by this. Sorry, you have to go through this. And there's nothing that happens, unfortunately, from this point forward, that brings your brother back. Right. Your father back.

You know what I mean? And so at this point, it becomes about holding the county responsible, holding police officer responsible, and then pursuing whatever means it is to get some sort of close. closure and the civil part. Yeah, but it's quick, listen. Go ahead. He'd be fired and charged. That's our demand, justice for Big Sam, is that we want Officer Derek Hill to be fired and

charged. Well, listen, we, we, Lori, you say something? No, I was just going to say, listen, I know it's, it's important because the family needs support, you guys need support. And I hate to bring this up, but money is involved. Yeah. So if there's any way, if there's a go fund me, if there's any way that we could support his family. And I know sometimes do feel like, no, I don't want to do that, but it's expensive.

And it's important. So please, send it over. We're more than happy to share because, you know, I know you're working hard behind the scenes, but the financial burden is huge. So let's, you know, this is when community steps in. Exactly. And helps out. So quick, whatever we could do, shoot me any information you have. Keep us posted on this. And we will keep spreading the word. You can follow DJ Quicksilva on Instagram. He's posting about this. a lot. But keep fighting the fight, man. We hope you get some closure. And we're thinking about you guys and Sam's family. Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate you guys. Once again, a hashtag is justice for Big Sam because at the end of the day, a wellness check should never

ending your death. Samuel Brown should be alive today. Thank you guys. All right, brother. God bless. God bless you as well. All right. Peace. That's tough, man. Yeah, it's so crazy, too, in an instant, your life is normal. Looking at it from a selfish standpoint of just the person affected by it. And now like, this is Quicks life now. You know what I'm saying? It's fighting for justice for your brother. That's right.

And you can't bring them back. Like you pointed out, all you could do is hope to get a little bit of accountability. That's it. For people to say, we're sorry. This shouldn't have happened. And then when you think about it, and that's why I brought up if there's a go fund me because you need money to fight. Yeah.

This is the world that we live in. And he has six children? They say six children So they're going to need support Yeah man Just glad we can make time to do it But it's just a horrible story man Yeah

And they'll flip that super And also This is big With the hashtag Justice for Big Sam Big Sam Look at pictures of them Big Man

We know How police in America Treat big black men In particular More than any group specifically You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Like that truly goes back to so many of these cases. George Floyd. Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Why am I? I feel terrible. My man in Staten Island. Oh.

Eric Gardner. Eric Garner. God bless. So often the size is factored in into, oh, they have to inherently be a danger. But even when they shot Tamir Rice. Yeah. Tamir Rice was a child. Child.

who they said was all who they thought was a grown man so there's always a reason right when you watch the video and i've seen the video you can tell that you know sam isn't in a great state right he'd been asleep he obviously pulled over knew he should be sleeping fell asleep gets up it's completely out of it but there's no reason this had to like you do have all these things you do have mace you do have yeah but also if it's a wellness check right this is goes back to the conversation around defund the police all everyone was so you had activists came up with a phrase defund the police right that's what activists do politicians are supposed to take that phrase and call okay what are these people actually

saying what do they want to have happened which some politicians did which was let's think about safety differently right because as we know when it comes to getting a restraining order and you feel like your life's in order what can police do nothing right they can't do anything until something happens right or when somebody's like hey so-and-so's having an episode we need somebody to show up. How about an angry police officer? No. And that's what people were saying. If someone taps on the window here who's there for a wellness check, you know, someone whose job is to make sure you're okay, not wearing a police suitiform, not going, get out of the car, but saying, hey, buddy, are you right? I'm here from the county, blah, blah, blah. We understand you're on the side of the

road. You seem like you're tired. What can we do to make an... You need somebody to come get you. You need a ride wherever you're going. You want us to stay with you for a little while. What do we do here? What do we do here? Let's help you. Let's help you. you. Now, if that person is also committed a crime, right, like they were driving and intoxicated, well, these people are affiliated with the state and they can then report those things later and it can be dealt with. But you're not dealing with a now a tense altercation. Well, and so back to the defunded police part. What people were trying to say to police is, hey, man, you guys have a hard job. And we're asking you to do too much. Let's take some of the money and pay someone else.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And that's where the police unions jump in. Because everybody wants their overtime and they want their raises and they want their pension. And it comes back to money. So it's like, no, no, no. Give us all the money, the people who have been abusing you committing crimes and getting away with it. And then we'll decide how the money's divvied up. Don't you worry.

We got it. We're going to investigate ourselves. When you talk to certain cops, they were with it. Yes, we don't want to deal with these situations. We do not. But they don't want to give up. But they don't want to give up the budget, though. That's the piece.

Yo, hashtag justice for Big Sam, man. I hope they get some sort of resolution. Yeah, man. Thanks, everyone. Yo, it is a Family Matters. A FOT Friday. What do you guys want to get to? The FOTS or the family.

Which I want to do? Let's do emails first. Emails first. Let's get to it. Ebro-L-R-R-R-show at Gmail. We got some voice notes to get to. I think we got Patrick and Ishmael. We appreciate your voice notes.

Laura, you got an email you want to get to? I do. I chew two short ones. I'm going to hit them really quickly. Hey, Laura and squad. I know you guys get crap about not being from New York, but this Bronx girl loves each one of y'all deep. You put on for the people and always come through with the truth.

Facts when very few do. Your EL Army shows exactly that. Please keep going. All right? And then we have Jasmine. Hey, ELR team, big fan for over 10 years. As soon as you guys left the old station, so did I. I'm sticking with you till the wheels fall off.

Thank you. I wanted to share that my four-year-old is also talking about death nonstop. So Laura is sharing her story about Kenza made me crack up because I too was wondering if this was normal. I love and appreciate how transparent you are about life. Keep it up. Well, we got an update for you on that coming up. Family matters.

Stay tuned for Family Matters. Rosenberg, will you help? First of all, I want to shout out Gerald, what you're watching Wednesday. Get your email. That's Gerald down there in Norlands. Oh, Gerald, Norland. In Shreveport, Louisiana. Lusana.

He says, shout out to 50 about to make big moves to the city. As I'm listening now, I'm in favor of Fott Friday. Love it. Da-da-da. Throw something out there for you. What you're watching Wednesday where we talk about TV. Dada-da-D-D-D-Degrode-D. Gerald, appreciate you on that.

And Rosenberg, see this one right here from Monica. Oops, sorry. Wait, don't get me caught up to say, Monica. I forgot all about your man, Jack Harlow, your man's. This is Monaco needs help with a DJ. Yeah. Does you want to read this one? No, I just wanted you maybe to help her with a DJ.

Oh, like actually reach out. You know DJs. This is interesting. This is a good topic, though. She's asking how do you evaluate a DJ and pick a wedding DJ? Oh, this is interesting. She said she's in Rotterdam, marrying a Dutch guy. Yes, he's tall.

And we're throwing our wedding this summer. The problem, no idea how to pick a DJ out here. The music scene is obviously heavy on house and techno, which I love, but I also need some hip hop and Latin flavor. Yes, I'm Latina. I can't have my wedding sounding like a fully Biza Euro trash set with zero flavor. No offense to my European people, but I need balance. How do you even evaluate a DJ? What should I be asking?

What are the red flags? You know what you should do? You should either find a DJ in America you love and bring them out. It's like not that because like you're going to, D.Ds are expensive anyway. Yeah. So like you throw on, you say, hey, we'll fly you out too, you know, and put them up. for a night. It costs you another $1,500 or whatever, but that could be

worth it. Or number two, go to clubs. You don't have to go to companies that do, like, I'm sure Rotterdam has a lot of parties and a scene and you guys go out and do stuff. You might be looking for the local that play the music, that play hip hop, a little bit of Latin, a little bit of everything. But they've been there.

Because when you look for a wedding DJ, you're going to get the you know, the corny. You can. Like, there are great DJs who DJ weddings, but if you get just wedding DJs, man. It's a certain type of corn. I don't want to cause problems.

I don't need more emails coming down to me. Where is this person again? Rotterdam. Is anybody listening or know anybody or is anybody watching listening or wherever you are in Europe and you know some DJs? Because even if they're not from Rotter, they could be two hours away. That's what I'm saying. Now, we know, I know some European folks. I don't know if they know DJs in Rotterdam. But still close.

Is it Rotterdam? I don't know. I'm not sure. Who's our friend? Who's our friend? Who's her friend? Monica. What's her friend?

Monica. DM, my dear friend, DJ Lady S. She'll know someone for sure. She, yeah, she lives here, but she's European. Actually, she spends the summers in Europe, so maybe she'll be available. Yeah, hit up. Hit up Lady S. That's a great idea.

But hit her up and she knows the European scene, so she will give you, you know, she will suggest somebody good. All right, guys, I'm going to read an email. All right. And I'm going to try my best to my wife was telling me last week. Okay. I'm going to really try my best to keep a, harnessing my inner Coleman McCarthy

and be peaceful about how I handle things instead of going off the deep. Coleman's the OG that raised you. The teacher that passed away. Yeah, that's right. All right, here we go. Omar says, OMG Rosenberg, please stop.

All right. This came just after Monday's show. Okay. I'm writing as a dedicated listener who's increasingly frustrated with the recurring dynamic on the show, specifically regarding Rosenberg's tendency to play devil's

advocate when white figures have offended the black community. The recent discussion regarding Jack Carlo is the perfect example of a tired pattern. Peter, when you lead with I've met him or he seems like a chill person, you are prioritizing your personal anecdotes over the actual impact of an individual's actions. We don't need to know their heart when we can clearly see their actions. Giving a pass based on a vibe or a one-time interview minimizes the lived experience of the black audience you serve and feel. like you're jumping through hoops to justify the behavior that the community has already flagged

as problematic. If you appreciate the culture as much as you say you do, your role should be to listen on why the community is offended, not to explain away the offense on behalf of the offender. Please stop playing both sides at the expense of the people who actually built this culture. It's exhausting to listen to and it's a betrayal of the platform's responsibility. I'm trying to stick with you guys, but the way the climate is today, I can't rock with the fence stradlers like Rosenberg. This is why I say, stopped effing with the breakfast club ages ago. I'd like to ask you guys, I'm going to give you the option.

Choose your own adventure, Lauren Ebro. Right. Would you like empathetic, calm, Rosenberg? Or would you like crash out? Tell this guy how he feels Rosenberg. Well, before I make that decision, there's some anecdotes that were interesting to me. Go ahead. Which were his quote about knowing someone's heart versus seeing their actions.

while Jack Harlow's actions, I think, were egregious and a big mistake. Knowing Jack Harlow's heart and his age also play a part into me saying, because I was the one that I don't know, maybe even more than you said, Jack Harlow's a nice guy. I don't know if he intended this. I hope he didn't. Because I do not want to live in a space for myself. This is personal.

I don't want to live in a space where I'm constantly assuming the worst and going on attack mode at every trigger because that is not productive for yourself. I don't think it's safe for me. And so I do often assume, hey, I've met you before and you seem like a thoughtful person. So maybe that wasn't what you meant to do. And I also don't want to lump you in with other people who are just racist, Nazi, evil dirtbags who do mean stuff to black people just because they get their jollies on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to lump you into those people. Now, I will gladly do so if I find that out later on, but that's not where I'm going to go first.

So your calm response there is taking me out of crash out mode being an option. So I'll keep it. Oh, sorry. Yo, to the audience, I ruined it. My bad. Yo, because you know what the people want. Oh, no, they want to cry. Oh, damn.

No, they did. Red face. Red face. I'm no red face Rosenberg today. I just don't know what this person heard on Monday's show. All of us felt the exact same way. A mix of what are you doing? Why did you do that?

I like you. You've always been cool. What are you doing? Did he really do that? Did he mean that by mom? Monica, did he do? Joke, joke. We all literally did the exact same thing, which was, this was a weird choice.

I don't really like it. I didn't go as far as Ebro saying that his performance sucked, but I did say I didn't like it. So let me tell you something. The reason I said that, and I felt bad. I even went home like, hey, was I too hard on Jack Harlow? She don't know Jack Harlow from Cana Paint. She was like, nah. But I honestly was like, yo, man, because I see him as young.

And I see him as someone who does want to contribute. He just did it incorrectly. Correct. And his performance did suck. It was like you gave nothing, Jack. Like literally nothing. You're a rapper. You rap well.

You tried to, you confused soul and cool. You're cool because you have soul. You don't have soul just because you act cool. Oh, that's a bar. That's a bar. You see what I'm saying? So he was just trying to be cool and laid back instead of actually finding emotion and digging deep into his soul and getting real singers to compliment what he was trying to do and really build out this world. It was lazy and it sucked.

So while I didn't go necessarily that far, I was there, guys. I was definitively critical. But also, like Ebro who I think did it more, hesitate because we need. know these people and were not mean callous people you realize what kind of person i have to be and both all of us to get up here and criticize someone and tear them down like we never met them before never shook their hand never showed them love now i have the man's phone number i'm gonna rip him down act like i don't know him from adam in no way was i a straddler on it i think so i think we're very fair i had jokes i had jokes for it i had serious again once again guys this email

And the person says it in the email. The person is triggered by the climate that they're living in and what they're seeing on the algorithm more than it has anything to do with you. But I thought about this last week because when you said that last week, it was an incredibly smart, pointed thing that you said. And it's also bullish. Why? Because why do they deserve the grace of saying, because your algorithms affecting you

and you're seeing all these things, I understand why you take it out of it. on Rosenberg. We don't have that grace for everyone. But it's the same way. Well, no, so we don't. I don't. No, but listen, the person emailing, we don't know. We don't know this person, right?

We do not. They know us. Correct. So I assume that you're watching us, you're involved in our program. I'm going to give this person the same pass I would give Jack Harlow. You know what Jack Harlow said in his interview in New York Times? I understand the political climate. And I know that what I'm doing, right, could be taken.

in a certain way. Jack also is affected by the political climate and what's going on in the world and him being a white person and stepping into a space and he made a decision and he effed it up. This person is saying I'm also affected by the world around me and the algorithm and all the things and I'm triggered

and this is how I feel about. Now, once again, but I'm saying in, but because of that, I am accusing you of things you simply did not do because I've seen other people do it and I don't like it. I left the breakfast class. he says. Maybe he feels triggered by

Schultz and Charlem. He's associating me with other things. The only thing that I have been a middle grounder on on any issue of significance, which I'm not even a middle grounder on, but I know the audience sees it differently than me is that I don't take every Epstein rumor as instant fact. That is the only thing. Yo, every other political issue.

So maybe that's it. Maybe I drove over a little time. Every political issue for 18 years, LGBTQ, everything you could think of. I am definitive. My stance on ice. My stance on that. I am definitive. And you say I'm a straddler because on the Jack Harlow thing, what, I didn't say, get him out of the business. That's all he could take.

That was the last straw. That was the last straw, Rosenberg, Jack Harlow, making an R&B soul out. Bro, and Monday was one of my best jokes days in years. I had a lot of fun after the Jack Harlow. thing, which, by the way, what are he supposed to do? The whole thing is littered with jokes. Are we going to act like the internet wasn't spending two days with album covers?

While he did a jackass thing. I still don't think I've gotten enough credit from Michael McDowell. No, Michael McDowell was great. I don't think. No, but what about yesterday? I think it's too deep. It's too deep.

What about, I'm sorry, I saw this a couple days ago. When I went back and looked at the comments from our video on Monday, someone called America Badoo. No, Merca Bacdu? That, I cackled. No. I cackle fun. I cackle.

I had to be. build on it and call it America by don't, but still, it was great. But I guess you're having too much fun. My point is, we all said a similar thing. I don't know what, my man, I don't know what I could say to you, that you came away from that conversation thinking I'm a straggler, I was making

excuses. All I was saying was, I know the guy, and I hope it wasn't what it looked like. I feel like the audiences might be feeling this this week. Once again, why do you care so much about this singular individual? Sorry, you're right. I shouldn't. Because it's every week. Well, no, but how about this? How about

this week you go off you go off knowing knowing you even gave us the option here today yeah you're i was feeling both right but you go off knowing you're going to trigger people to make them feel something and then when you make them feel something and they come back to you with the thing that they feel yeah not that you were trying that on jack harl but i wasn't but i'm saying but i'm just saying in general that's the person you are i guess so so now they feel something they come back to him and he's like, why are you feeling something because I made you feel something? The whole reason you're here

is because you make people feel something. I appreciate that. I understand that is my gift in radio. But that, our conversation on Monday about Jack was an ebro-led conversation in which I agreed, ad-libbed, made some jokes.

He doesn't get it. He's triggered by it. He'll be fine. Maybe you'll write back. Maybe you'll get over it. Maybe you'll stop listening. But I'm a lot of things in life. I'm not a line strabler.

Listen, at this point, if he's not a subscriber, and not a Patreon F*** out of here That's it Oh wait no he's probably a subscriber You think he's a subscriber You think it gets a by don't you think it's notifications you're wrong?

I think so He seems like he's into it You think this guy's notifications wrong No bro Yo if your notifications aren't on No we got nothing for you And subscribing Yeah I give you the option on the Patriots

No that's money you can't That's option You can't force people on that's right That's money. If you've never left a super chat A money in the super chat I won't even judge you No why not But you got to have notifications

on at least be a subscriber for me to actually actually give a day so that was actually promo for you to subscribe and turn your notification i see what you did that that was good though that was good all right laura you uh let's get your voice note yes please all right this is patrick yo ebro laura rozenberg this is patrick this message for rosemberg rosemberg i actually think you're a good guy. And maybe I'm just biased or maybe I'm just different when it comes to what people say and think about me because I don't give a damn most of the time what people say and think about me because I know who I am. And I know I'm actually a pretty nice guy. I actually think genuinely you're a pretty nice guy. So when you just, I'm giving you something. I'm not going to give you something,

but I'm going to say some unsolicited advice. And you can beat this out. Man, fuck these people. Because everybody wants to say all the negative aspects to whoever individual online. But nine times out of ten, they may or may not say it in person. And we don't, I mean, we know the personality, Ebro, Laura Rosenberg, but we don't know the actual personal Ebro, Laura Rosenberg. So if possible, try not to let these people bother you on these comments and these voice notes and these emails because, man, that really, that really gets on my nerves when people have the audacity to speak on something they do not know. And I just got finished listening to y'all have a dissertation on Yonis from three.

Oh, yeah. 13, I think today is the one I directed to my crumb. Whatever. Friday, Yonis, nah, you don't even know, buddy. Everybody don't know you. Ain't he a fan, he a fan, he a fan. All right, thank you, buddy.

You, Patrick, appreciate you. I said I'm going to make it short, but it ended up being kind of long. No, it's all good. Peter, Griff, bleep this out. These people, keep on doing your thing. Do you edit that lot? I'm a lot. I found a job from the, from Hot 97 to YouTube.

Thanks, Patrick. Thank you so much, Patrick. Well, I got news for all of y'all. I'm not, Rosenberg's got a new podcast with somebody else in here. Let me see here. Menza. Yeah,

wrote about validation addiction. You know, look, hate to be that guy. So why are you going to do it? But I got to do it. I don't want Rosembourg to get fixed up that easy. You know what I'm saying?

We got to keep someone this toxic behavior and problematic stuff. Unfortunately, I think you got, you got enough runway here. Well, I don't think you really want to fix it because sometimes you got to be, you got to be honest with you. So I think when you unravel it feels good.

No, I usually end up feeling like... No, in the moment, it feels good. When you look back at yourself, you're probably like that. It looks wet. Like the Jonas one last week when I invited him to my junk multiple times. It wasn't that bad to me. She's been watching for a while. She's a little known.

She's a piece of it styles. Most people do not like being invited to junk. Well, I will say I think a lot of people enjoy you taking it there. Because some people deserve it sometimes. The fact that this is all centered around inviting somebody to your private parts, It's pretty funny to hear your quotables Where she's like some people like it when you take it there And you're like, ah, not everybody likes it when you're invited to the junk

I gotta be honest Both could be true Both. It depends If you don't know the person really well And you invite them to your private parts Not so happy If you know them really well And they're actually attracted to you and say

Hey, you want to come to my private parts for a little part Hey, why not? I'm into that So no, it depends Sometimes I just walk away from feeling like I made an ass of myself It's too much Because the one thing that he said in that voice note

of like the people don't know you. But like the differences about the way I am on air, like they do. Like this isn't, I don't really, you guys know me, but there's not a huge difference between me off this and on this. I think the good things I have on this, I have. I think the only difference between this and my real life is that when I meet strangers, like out in the world, I am exceedingly polite. Like over, I think slightly too polite, like a little bit of a bitch. I'm a very polite to strangers person. I mean, that's really you too, though, who being on.

But I think on this show, this is me. And that's why when I hear things like Stradler, I get offended. I'm like, I'm not that white moderate who's like, hold on now. I don't really want to be for change. That is not remotely who I am. I'm definitive. You have to also understand the room that we're in, too. Like standing next to Ebro on all these conversations,

y'all know how boring the show would be if every time there's a take that's strong. I'm like, right on, brother. Let's go. It's sometimes when you're around someone. Matter of fact, I quit. If you ever said right on brother, let's go. Guys, the moment that happens, the show's over. I don't know anybody want to hear that.

Nobody want to hear that. I don't want to. I hate that, bro. I hate when white people brother me to death. I can't stand it, bro. No, white people. By the white people brother. Oh, they brother.

But they brother. It took me a second because I thought they were doing it like on some black because I'm black. You know, it took me a second to realize no white. people do that to each other. No, I, so, but by the way, bro. Yeah, but white people, but do you change it to brother? I think sometimes white people change it to brother for black people.

See, I don't like that. Don't do that. Just say, bro, normally. Talk regular, bro. Don't try to give me an ex. Because now, because now you can't just act like, I don't see color, brother. No, you do. You just change the whole linguistic approach.

He wants a normal bro. No, if you're going to be white and be like that. Hey, dude me, bro. I like a hate. What about it? Somebody's like, yo, dude. Dude, I'm like, you're just completely overt about how much you see race. And you're like my dad.

And you come up to someone, you're just like, hey, you're black. You know what my son is? And you're just completely blatant. Like, it's not, my dad doesn't have any illusions of, I don't see. That's too far. If your dad does that. Congratulations. You play yourself.

Be careful with MJ. Somebody going to smack you. Well, my dad first met his good friend James, who's now been friends with like 30 years. James came into his office. They never met in person. They'd just been friends on the phone for a long time working on some sort of whatever. And James walked into his office and my dad walked him, he's just like, you're black. That's the first thing that came out of his mouth.

James was like, yeah. My dad was like, wow. Like he was so excited that James was black. He already knew that he really liked him. But turns out James was black. Anyways, I don't know. I'm never going to say right on brother. White people are crazy.

No, white people are crazy. I'm never going to say right on brother, but my point is when you're in a room with people you're close with. I could sit here and argue with Ebro about something. And then if I were in the room with Alan and Don would argue the exact opposite point to represent what Ebro is saying. Because the position, the room, it's contextual. Yo, and it just don't know on me. So my brother, I'm not even listening to what you're saying, but I appreciate you. No, thank you.

My brother who is white. My brother who is white says brother. When he's talking, sometimes when he's talking to me. But I'm his brother. But it still triggers me because he's white. No, and your brother's so. Oh my God. No.

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brothers sometimes like in a lovingly he'll be like yo brother blah blah like we do that too

but that's how much this race thing is eff my brain no you're you're in bad shit let's be honest

you're in a bad bad place man yo Laura what you got that is so funny okay okay

okay let's focus all right uh hola You guys are friends in my head, and I often see and hear news or events, and I think, what are Ibron? I'm going to say about this. Recently, Laura discussed a passing of her friend, sincere condolences, and mentioned that she, Laura, is required to get mammograms breast ultrasound semi-annually, too.

I too, due to personal history of abnormalities and family history of cancer, I have to do the same. But last year, I was diagnosed with breast cancer on the right breasts, presently cancer-free. Woo! All right. Had a mastectomy reconstruction procedure, and I'm, scheduled for a second part of reconstruction process in April. My cancer was not detected in a regular mammogram or breast ultrasound. My proactive doctor suggested a breast MRI.

And that's how it was found. Some breast tissue and tumors appear the same in images. I highly recommend that if your doctor doesn't bring this third type of test done annually, that women with cancer family history advocate for themselves and requested. I caught mine super early. I never had symptoms, never felt sick, or had lumps. but their cancer was. Damn.

Just wanted to put this out there because besides not getting cancer, early detection, uh, detection significantly improved survival rates, I love you all. Keep on, keeping on. Man, another thing.

Man, oh man. And the worst part, if your insurance doesn't cover it, then they won't do it. Nope. They were like, we don't have a reason to. They want to wait till as long as humanly possible. Yeah.

And see if it's too late. Yeah, basically. But thank you for that information. You gotta know these questions to ask. That's why it's so, Yeah, man. A lot of guys, the amount of people that don't know how to advocate for themselves in a doctor's office is huge. It's like people get intimidated. Of course. You're in a doctor's office. I mean, in your brain, you walk into a place and you think these people know what they're doing. Not taking advantage of you to run up your insurance and get paid out. You think they're actually trying to help you.

Bro, you ask all the questions you want. And if someone talks to you in a way where they, you know, are shooting you down or don't want to answer, ask for somebody else. Hey, Griff, these two-minute voice notes, we need a solution. This is too long? No, no, no. The next one is Ishmael. Two minutes and 35 seconds. No. Let's see what Ishmael talking about.

Yo, E-L-R family, what up, though. This is Zay from L.A. All love and all that. I'm going to try to make this quick because we got a lot to get into. I got some conspiracy theories. I like it. I'm going to defend my boy P. Okay.

So I'm going to need y'all to run me my conspiracy theory music in a moment, but I'm going to defend my boy. Can you do it? All right. All you have people that are out here saying, oh, privilege pee this and privilege pee that. Side bow, all right? Because if the man was any more melanated, we would be celebrating him, okay? Homeboys got like eight jobs, okay? He's out here trying to provide for his wife and his baby. All right. Okay, he can afford a pediatric this and a heart monitor that and an EKG for the bald head. Like, he can handle all that, all right? Like, You know what, Pete, hit a money spread on the gram one time. Let me know what you're really working. All right. Okay, the man is out here working. All right.

Next topic, my God. So, Pete, hit him, hit a money spread on the gram and let him know what you really got like that. He wants you to take a stack of money and spread it out. No, no. No, I'm not going to do that. All right? You're not going to just be like you're not just going to cosplay your favorite. No, no.

Ebro. I know that you masterminded that whole, you know, travesty that happened on Christmas with John. I know you did because you was on your Django-ish. You said, oh, y'all gonna get me out here. I'm gonna burn this bitch down before I leave. And you lit the plantation on fire and you had John commit that awful offense. I know you're like mayhem and men like that's what you was on. And you had John say what he said and you all played it up and then you got up out of there.

And that's what you did. I see it. I love it. Aplause. Nothing but applause for me because I'm here for it. Burn it down before we get out of here Listen, you ain't got to say I'm right, but I know I'm right All right, you're wrong

Let me explain why he's wrong And John's an idiot and this and that But I know what she was doing No, thank you, Ishmael That guy's pretty funny though He's great, I love Ishmael But don't you think if that was Ebro's great operation It would have ended with John being fired, not us?

I mean, all disrespect All no disrespect to your plane Are you guys watching the John journey? What do you mean? What now? Oh, I saw him show up at Apple or something, right? I hit an ebro real quick And it said what?

I said, you see, I was right When he needs a job, he's going to call you But he didn't ever do anything Except leave a dumb comment, Laura Multiple, specifically to people Who are talking trash about us I don't think he meant it the way you think You just said he's an idiot

Did I just say that? No, you said, oh, he's an idiot Don't mind it, I was like, I don't take it that way Well, listen, listen, I gave Jack Harlow a pass I give John a pass. You know what I mean? Well, not only do you give John a pass. You give him passes all the time.

Exactly. Like, it's nonstop. You guys at the wrestling thing. Don't add extra. Sorry. You guys ready for family matters? Can I just hit this one thing? All right, go.

Isn't it about you? No, it's about the validation addiction, though. Like this email's interesting, though. No, but it's about his thing, his situation. Right. He said, I heard you guys had to write in as someone who battled sex and validation edition for so long. I can't say how important and needed is to have a platform like validate me for the male

community. Long story short, my marriage of three years ended last March after I had long ignored my addiction issues. Sadly, what I had always thought of as meaningless flirting and attention seeking, finally escalated to physical cheating on my wife in December 2024. I even wrote into the gurus about this last year. Over the past year, I've been on a journey of learning and healing to try to grow and overcome this part of me. Therapy has been a tremendous help, and I've learned that so much of my addiction is rooted in my own insecurities and how I view myself. I can't speak enough to how much doing the little things in life

working out constantly being disciplined, taking care of myself, has increased my confidence and giving me hope of life past this addiction. I've even met a new partner recently. And while it's still early, it's been the healthiest relationship I've had with this new headspace I'm in. By no means,

while I say I'm in the clear from addiction, but I think so many men will benefit from Peter's new show. I only wish I had something like this before. We'll definitely be tuning in and would love to share more of my story. Well, that was the end. I mean, it goes back to him, but. But it's true, man. So many people out there, they don't even realize that that behavior

because the texting thing they think is like, I like to flirt. I'm seeing a lot of great responses. And people are very happy that you're putting out this project. A lot of people are doing with it. Well, let's see how happy people actually are. If they're actually going to subscribe to turn the notifications on, and get in there and actually make this.

You said, turn the notifications on? I sure did. That's true. And subscribe. Because if it is the, is the, Love real if your notifications are wrong. I like this new angle. Show me show me it's real Turn your notifications. You know what I mean? No that's by the way that's the promo we got to That's the promo with the R&B music. Yeah. Like that is it real girl the notifications on though? Exactly that's the vibe. Oh

Is it subscription or have you subscribe? Because like yeah when we pop up you're on or not or not? Like when I'm here do you know I'm here? Yeah. Are you even are you even talking it? This sounds like an R&B record right now. Elr, you know what I mean? The ELR show on Patreon if you want to spend some dough and get at that extra content. This week we had Norie on. If you missed it, please go get to it. You guys want to get to Family Macs?

Oh, hell yeah. Let's go. No, stop playing the bad one. The man keeps playing the bad one. You want to delete it. It's a rare condition this day and age. It is. It is a rare condition.

It is a rare condition. of the grand design some people say it's even harder to find well then there must be some much to do inside these genitals an 80s TV themes

because all I see nah but you've got to have real soul you got to have the soul soul this guy's feeling now he couldn't have done you hear that now now we're going to get to Kenza update

I'm sure we got an MJ update but I have have an issue with our family here what happened I had a very big moment this week it wasn't covered in the rundown oh my god yes I mean a worldwide affair took place

no but not a peep on this program I waited all week oh my god and you know what and I told me something that never happens I got the host nobody cared yes yes yes we're a holes for it the apple thing yes 50 years of Apple and I get to kick off the worldwide celebration with a live

concert, free concert with Alicia Keys at Grand Central Station? Not even one people on this program. I have a great response to that. Laura, how was the show? I don't know. I was invited. I didn't even know about it, actually. I found out because I saw Ibro suited and booted and I was like, why is he so suited and booted? Oh, glasses are on. Okay, something good.

You mean the one at Grand Central Station? It looks like they maybe rammed 8,000 people in there? Well, no, it was free. Yeah. All those people in there were just... They just walked up. And now are you going to say this is also like Super Bowl and if you had asked for two tickets to go to the Apple celebration of it's you know hit Ebro with the book right now how do you what is wrong with him how come you didn't invite us there was nothing for you to see oh Alicia Keys I love Alicia she loves Alicia

she loves Alicia Keys oh my many times you go see her musical oh four times my kitchen four times by the way by the way that's a bit too far I did not know that that's because I also took girls from my envision fed You guys should have been there. No, listen, Natalie was like... It wasn't even pre-promoted and it was like a surprise event. It was like, wow, you see what Ebro's doing? Wow, this is crazy.

I was like, oh, I didn't even know. This wasn't even pre-promoted. He didn't even mentioned it to us. It was secret. Listen, Apple confidential. You know, listen, we kept to Apple. We got to keep secrets. We kept it confidential.

That's right. That's why we didn't mention it. Before or half. Was it dope though? No, it was very dope. And I'll be honest, it didn't really hit me until of how dope it was until I was about to walk out to actually. do it introduce her.

Like I didn't even You know what I mean? It's another work event like oh we're doing the thing And blah blah blah and I knew it was a big deal for Apple Right it's 50 years Like I saw you hanging out with Tim Apple Yeah me and Tim Apple was hanging out Yo do you know in Grand Central Station where they used to have

Central booking and Grand Central Station they've turned it into like a restaurant Yeah Did you guys know that? I haven't been to Grand Central Station Had no idea You go up those stairs you make a left There's a whole restaurant on that here at Grant Central Station.

Is that where the thing was? Yeah, we had the whole thing. Tell you what Ebro was doing that day, though. I'll tell you what. He went out, put on, got a whole new Tom Ford suit. Bro. No, I had that instead. That news boss.

Did you see? Couset on fire. Listen, this is, this was Ebro all day. Uh-huh. Maybe more than shoulder, too. He might have done a full, like. He might have hit the. Oh, no, no, no.

There was a heel toe. There was a heel toe. Yeah, yeah. There was a heel toe. 50 years of Apple. Into 50 more, my guys. Let's go. We might make a man.

He's been there for 10. Yo, that's another thing that hit me that day. 10. I've been at Apple a fourth. No. A quarter. 10 joints. No.

A fifth. A fifth. A fifth. Sorry. All that I said, a fourth, a fifth of the time. I was thinking 40 years. It's 50 years.

That's how it works. Yeah. That's, yeah. Anyway, you've been there for a while. Yeah. It's great. Anyway, and then when I went up there to introduce her, the way they had the step, you're at the top of the steps.

You're looking down these steps, and then the whole thing was full of people. That's when it was. I got mad nervous. That was when I thought. I got mad nervous. No, when I saw the crowd size, I don't know how you felt, Laura. That's when the insult kicked me. Yeah, same.

Wow, they made room for a lot of people. I have to imagine there were some other people there. Some people invited guests. Someone said, hey, honey, you want to come? No, absolutely. And you didn't even invite your lady? No. Because we had to bring the baby.

We could have brought everybody. No, I wasn't sure. It's grand central stage. I didn't know what it was going to be. It's not the Super Bowl, bro. I didn't know what it was going to be. Anyway, it looked up. It looked amazing.

And I have a thing bringing my family places when I can't pay attention to them. Like it feels whack. It's Alicia Keys. No, no, no. But I, like, just sitting them over in a corner, like, while I'm over doing something, it just starts to feel weird. Oh, God. I get it. I need to get over.

Okay. It's my fault. All right. All right. So, so that was your family matter. Your family was ignored. Laura, what's going on to your family? So the other day, I was in bed, okay, with my child.

And I recorded a video, and I sent it to Rosenberg. And Rosenberg was like, oh, my God, this has to go. family matters now i debated if i'm like damn should i share this this is too embarrassing but i let's do it we're all family right time can you explain what's on here watch this um like the kids died because they were in the water and the shark bit them and the family are crying because the because the kids died well why because the shark ate them so that means it has it has it They're padded blood everywhere in the sea, so they're crying. Oh, my God.

This is a crazy picture you drew. Because sometimes people accidentally do that. Do what? Because sometimes they just do stuff and they don't see sharks, but they bite them. And this is a big wave. She's a splash away. Oh, my God. That's a lot.

goes more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The shark is dying because he can't breathe. And he, and he has, um, and he has, um, like, he has blood in his mouth. It's coming out of the sand. And, and it's because of the shark. He's, he's, he's hurt because he hurt him so. Oh, more blood.

Okay. And he's burning. And he's burning. Now he's going to fire. Hey, go, Kinsa. Yo, and now he's burning. It's never enough. I need to talk you.

I need to stop talking to her like a little kid. We got to have real grown up. Oh, my God. First the kids die. Then the good because of the shark. The parents die too? Yeah. They're crying.

Oh, but the wave came. Yeah. The wave came and wiped out the parents. They're dead. At least the shark, though, doing what he's supposed to do. But no. But got hurt and then catches on fire. And then the shark's dead.

Everyone is dead. Blood is coming out of his mouth. I was like, what? What is she watching? Seriously. Bro, she's not watching anything. No, what she's... No, no, no.

Ask Ricardo what they're watching. Okay, no. The only thing that I get... Or watched. Watched. Is Jurassic Park. That's the only thing. But how much did she make of it

through Jurassic Park? I thought they didn't finish it. Yeah, well, you're missing something. There's something you're missing in here. She loves a creepy. She loves zombies. She loves zombies. it but this is I'm just like girl but other people say that their four or five

year olds are going through it so it's normal they may hear things in school too someone's died this happened they hear a news story from a distance yeah I I the other day when I ran into them I start talking to Lauren Ricardo and Kens is down there and I realize like you guys hear like Netanyahu might be dead and we start like chatting and then Kenz is like what and I was like oh we get it I mean everything's good what hi sunshine later yep yep yeah clearly you don't have to hide death from her. I don't want to give more.

We don't know. You got to lean in now. Now you got to actually make her understand what it. I mean, you want to know about death? Let's talk about it. It started when our dog peewee died. And by the way,

maybe that's a real thing. Maybe I made her super curious about death. Yes. She wanted to know why this individual is a part of our family is gone forever. She didn't really get the concept. Now it's like, oh, wait a minute. Like there's so many different ways people die.

They die for waves. They die for catching on fire. Sharks. Sharks eat them. Then the shark catches on fire. There's so many ways people. We can die. And you know what?

Run that 6 million ways to die. Choose one. That's Kansas' new name. You know, she's 6 million ways to die. That's crazy. You know what? Instead of Diadalo's Muerthos, she had dresser up is Saw. What's the Saw character name?

Jigsaw. Dress her as a jigsaw. She's out here figuring out ways for people to torture themselves and die. That is crazy, bro. It's so nuts. Yo. No. I don't know what you do, though.

I mean, you just kind of have to kind of ride it out. You got to leave. I mean, not lean in and get more morbid, but lean in and kind of like just talk with her through it. That's what they do. But I just thought it was really funny because I was like, wow, this is a lot. No, it's a lot. It's a lot. Parenting is real, B. Parenting is super real.

Rosenberg, Maya, my buser, a grill. No, no. On the floor. You guys are moving. There's moving plans. There's so much going on. We leave, we move a week from Monday. We move a week from Monday.

I think we feel good about it. Okay. No, we do. Making a decision felt good. Packing up is going to piss you off. What? Packing up? Repacking.

Well, yeah, we've been trying to move stuff around every day. We're selling stuff. We're getting rid of furniture. We're trying not to bring things back. Laura, of course, put Natalie on to this bed. So now Natalie's trying to sell our bed and get a new bed. But it's a good idea. The storage bed would be a good idea.

Y'all got some cozy earth sheets in the house? We're bringing the cozy earth sheets, of course. No, we're feeling good. My parents came, as you know, last week. And, you know, I felt really, I felt really blessed to spend the weekend with them. I heard your wife made a pot of soup so fantastic. She couldn't stay awake for three days or something. That's all that.

First of all, I didn't say that necessarily on the show, but here we are. I said, my wife, my wife is a great cook, right? She is. Fantastic. She chefs up, makes things up, improvises, like, she's really good. And she makes this, you know. Yemenetti soup that's that's fire I thought my parents would like it so she made it for my parents yeah but before we had the soup I also had the idea of us going to look at a few properties

even though we're moving right now a couple of interesting things came up and I'm like let's just see maybe maybe that'll be our future home one day I thought it'd be a fun thing to do with the parents right like it's just you know going to apartments it's like a thing to do it's a little bit of an activity so I should have told Natalie if you want to cook and do that stuff just stay home and I'll take my parents But instead I brought Natalie, the baby, and my mom, and we all went and looked at apartments. And Natalie, after that, because some of the time she's wearing the baby, that was a lot. Then we get home and she goes away in the kitchen.

So, right, you better carry the baby and slave in the kitchen? Well, she didn't carry the baby the whole time. What is going on in this house? I took the baby back, but the damage had been done. And then she goes back and she starts sheffing up. And I didn't ask her to chef up. So you just want her barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Oh, my God.

That's what I'm getting from this story. This is out of control. She made the broth from scratch. Oh, now she's making food from scratch. Now, was this a part of your, was this in your vows? If you don't like, you know, chef up from scratch, I'm not going to marry you. We end up at dinner that night with my parents, though, and I just feel bags. We're sitting there.

It went to a quiet little restaurant in the neighborhood. And we look over, and that is like this. Exhausted. And I'm like, and I'm like, babe, you look like you're not good. The emails are going to go crazy. Why? Because they're going to be like, Rosenberg. I thought you were a nice Jewish man.

and we found out you're a slave drive. Oh my God. Your wife is barefoot pregnant and barely holding her head up at dinner? What are you doing over there? Listen, I messed up. I messed up. But I got to know her well enough to know.

That's the key is to know that she's going to go too hard and say, hey, babe, but you also don't want to placate to women. You know that because if you go, I think you might be tired if you, they're going to be like, what? You think you, and my wife did admit to me this week. She did admit a quality that she has that she's going to work on change. Okay. And I asked her for, because I had a conversation with my therapist.

My wife will ask me a question. She'll say, hey, what do you think we should give so-and-so as a gift? What she should say and her soul is actually saying is, let's discuss what we're going to give as a gift. But instead, and she admitted this, she's testing me. She wants to see if my answer is going to be stupid And then she's going to go, no, we're not doing that. We should do blank. And I just said to her, I said to her,

I said, why don't instead of you testing me with the question, just come to me and collaborate and say, hey, I was thinking. Can she just make the decision without you? By the way, well, maybe. I guess I need to weigh in on these particular things. Their family matters. Okay, okay, okay, that's fair. So I should weigh in.

But when you ask it as a loaded question, you're making me feel away. I know what you're doing. Now the second I'm trying to answer, I'm trying to answer correctly. I'm not even trying to give like, what's my true answer? I'm like, well, I was thinking 250 bucks. Well, I got news. I got news. I firmly believe the reason she puts so much effort in the kitchen is because where she's failing with massages for you.

Oh, my good. And so, you know what I mean? That's what this is really all about. So, now. Yes, kids. Yes, Kay. Chill in the kitchen, get to these back massages. That's right.

You don't have to cook as much. I finally got one the other day. See? It's because it came up on the show, I bet. Yes. I finally got one. I said, Ebro said, you know, jazz down to give massages. She feels bad when he even tries to give a massage.

And so I did get a little something. It was nice. It wasn't bad. But you know what? You're right, Ebro. It's compensation. Yo, I told Ricardo that my hand's been hurting lately. He came home with a hand massager.

Like an automatic hand massageable. I want it you to do it. No, now you have a machine. Well, and jazz actually left a message for you. She did? A response because you were saying that she sounded psychotic about the massage thing. Did you use the word psychotic? No, that's what you said on the air.

Sound insane is what you said. She watches the show. Extra sauce. I don't like this. Good morning, everyone. So yes, I'm listening. And this is exactly what I said it is. First of all, Ero gives an amazing massage.

So let's just say it's a 30-minute massage. I'm thinking that's typical if you're at home with your partner. You give your partner massage. Maybe it's 30 minutes. I get two minutes. I just feel like after he worked all day, I would feel guilty about that because if anyone deserves the massage, it would be Ebro. Right?

So also, I'm a spa girl. Like, I love going to the spa. I love getting massages. 90 minutes is ideal. And I would never ask that of Ebro. Whether he would do it or not just wouldn't ask that because, like I said, I would feel guilty. So I just think it's best for when he gets home, he gets to relax. And when I need a massage.

I can just go to a spa. I'm definitely not going to. Oh. That's not the case. I'm just being mindful. I missed it completely. I'm an idiot. I thought the lie was because,

oh, no, she's saying don't bother. I want to go to the spa. I'm an idiot. I misdiagnosed it. Yo, she asked for. The extra luxurious one, too. I didn't know you were doing third. She doesn't even go to a luxury.

She goes to a place that she loves. I think she gets an hour and a half for like 40 bucks. Natalie loves the low-key nail spa, go get a massage in the back. It can still be great. 30 minutes, I actually feel different, though. 30, I'd feel bad for asking for someone for a 30-minute massage, too. I don't think I've ever given her a 30-minute massage. 30s.

But that also says something about our sex life, too. She thinks it's actually longer than it actually is. Great news. Now, last thing on the way out on the clothes. I mean, she thinks I'm laying it down for a good. Ebro, Natalie asked if the three of us want to join her on a helicopter ride over New York City. Jazz is not going. No, not jazz.

Oh, I'm down. The three of, because Natalie, she has room for three and she thought we could use it as like content for us too. But it's no doors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No doors over New York City at night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're down for it? You look a little tiny shook, though.

But you do it. I'm dead. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.

What time is this? It's a night flight. So, that'd be like 9 o'clock. Yo, maybe we go on... What day or the week? I don't know. We'll figure it out. Maybe we go on...

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