The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 7.) Laura's Here!, Drake & Adin Ross In Trouble, Venezuela + Zohran's First Week (1/5/26)

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg discuss Drake and Adin Ross being in hot water, Trump's attacks on Venezuela, Zohran's First Week as Mayor, Fights on the Diamond District, Laura Stylez is BACK, the NFL Playoffs are here and much more! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, look. You see it? There we are. Blood in the water. Okay, boom. Blood and the water. Ladies and gentlemen, Ebro, Laura Rosenberg,

you know what I'm saying? Still on the vacate. It's the vacate episodes. Do you guys, Laura Stiles, welcome back, first and foremost. Thank you. Thank you. How did you feel where we had to launch the Ebro,

Laura Rosenberg brand, and you were in South Asia, Southeast Asia, even? I was in Hawaii. Then I went. to Thailand. But listen, the response has been amazing. It was beautiful to see so many people supporting us all the amazing messages. It was really nice to see our subscribers just grow and grow and grow and grow, you know. Do you know where we're at now? I haven't looked. Like 40,000?

And that's on what? Subscribers. On YouTube. On YouTube. On YouTube. On YouTube. Although I did, I did go and read the comments that Rosenberg asked us to read in the Apple Podcast reviews. Very nice. Very warm. Oh, listen. Very nice. Laura, I need you to stay engaged there. Can you take responsibility for you don't get us up to date?

No, just keeping us up to date. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a, like an information source of the program. You know what I mean? Sure, sure. The goings-ons with subscribers, commentary on, you know, how people are viewing our podcast.

I will tell you, um, there's an expectation of professionalism from this podcast. Well, just what. And today we get the button. Well, congratulations. You played yourself. Yeah. I mean, it's trash.

Yeah. Well, listen, we have plans, guys. We're going to get it together. We were supposed to be on vacay. And so, you know, things started happening. For the record, you were supposed to be on vacation. You are the only human I know who takes vacation when vacation ends, okay? And we would take away life today.

What was vacation supposed to be? to end. Monday, January 5th is when even the people who had the best vacations are back to work. It's today, bro. Which is wrong. Yeah, Laura, Laura literally leaves Earth, but she's back by Monday, January 5th because this is the day. Well, so, so now here's the deal. In a normal scenario, the reason I wait a few days and let people get back and situated is because I'm irritated by the, oh, I'm just getting better. I'm just getting situated. The new year just started.

You know, hang on a sec. I'll get back to you. You know, so I'm not fully back. I'm still catching up on emails. Well, no, I'm kind of like always on my email. I'm never actually fully gone. Even when I'm gone, I'm not gone. So when I'm ready to come back to work, I want to work.

I don't want to get back to work and people are telling me they're not ready to get to work. So people don't really get to work until like January 11. No, listen, you're, I'm not saying that I've always. liked your plan because I also think you're leaving out a major part which is that the resorts are more chill everything's better because of so you're and cheaper and cheaper you're skipping all the best reasons I respect all of this I just know when you're like yo today was supposed to be vacation why are we back I have to go downtown today and everyone Laura's back outside is today no no no I didn't say why are we back I said today's

supposed to be vacation which is why I'm not at least in my home studio but hey good but But Ebro, why are you even mentioned this? You're not the one who sounds like ass. That would be Laura. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. You sound great. Oh, wow.

Look at me. For God knows, I don't even know where you are, but you sound good. You look basically the same. It's basically the same look you have at home. But, I, bro, when would you, I would you say was the first time that I said to Laura, hey, Laura, have you gotten a microphone for us to be able to do a podcast? Like, if we weren't to use the comment.

Two years ago. Two years ago. It has to be two years. Oh, my God. Don't twist doesn't turn it on me. You're the one who wanted to go live today on my first day back without even having a little meeting or anything. See, there we go. That's why I take longer vacations.

That right there. You want to meet a meeting. You're not ready to go. Like, what do we need to do? Oh, wait, no, Laura, that's not fair. I was very aggressive the last few days about making sure you got your equipment. No, I did not set up. You and Bascom should have communicated.

So let's get on the line tonight. I, you know what? Oh, man. The wheels are coming off the pro. Hang on. Everybody stop. Hang on everybody stop. Let's go live.

Hang on. the wheels are coming off the program. We just got this thing going. Rosenberg and Laura Stalves beefing already. We got a lot of things to get to today. No, I should have. You know what? I own it.

I own it. I was the one who was talking all about the mic. I should have been the one who said, let's all jump on tonight yesterday and let's work this. I have text messages that actually said from you, let's jump on tonight. You did say that. I may have. But either way, listen.

You said, let's do something at 8 o'clock last night. Well, listen, we're here together. We're all here together now. Laura has the physical microphone in her house. So by tomorrow, we should be fully good to go. Ebro, when are you back stateside? I'll be back on, I can't tell you that. But it's this week.

You're back this week. You're back this week. Well, listen, we're here. The rich girl is still in full effect. Oh, yeah. Come on. Well, listen, when I leave, listen, I can't be found. You can contact me, but I can't be found.

That's right. That's a plot twist there. Now, we got stuff to get to today. We got federal RICO charges levied at Aidan Ross, Drake, and somebody they call Grand Wizard Chat Inword. Oh, Grand Wizard Chat inward. That's right. Sounds like a reliable guy. Laura's going to be getting all of this in something that has yet to be named, but it's not the flashing lights report.

No, it's not. And it's not the BBC either. You named it. No, you named it that. No, I did not. I said that was a special, special channel on IG, on our Ibro Laura Roosevelt channel where we kind of just throw on little topics to see if it sticks. But it's not an official report of the show.

Right. But I told you to name it the Bo Chinchey News Network. Yeah. And you went and named it the Bo Chinchea Chat Channel or whatever the hell you named it. The thing is that I don't want to call the entertainment report. The Bochinchai, whatever. No, I don't want to use that. Well, what do you have then?

I don't have nothing yet. congratulations you plagued yourself but i don't want to call it that why not Rosenberg do you feel me it's like i don't know why he at he's acting like laura's the only one who like he wasn't the old man laughing at it the whole time like oh it's funny because it's the BBC get it like british broadcast but also but also the other definition why is he acting like he doesn't know that he's the one who found it the funniest that it was called the bbc i just couldn't believe she did it I missed it.

I missed the initial day of it, so I wasn't there for its inception. But either way, she's going to do something in an unnamed report. Shout out to it. And by the way, once again, hit us with the button. People expect professionalism. Unprepared.

Unwilling to use the BN, created the BBC, and it still doesn't have a name. Hit us with the button. Why are we live today? We're not even ready. They expect professionalism from this show. Congratulations.

you plagued yourself. So we also got to deal with Venezuela and the inner workings of this whole Venezuela, Maduro, oil seizure, active war, blah, blah, blah, a lot to delve into there. But first,

I believe I have some phenomenal audio. I want you to go to audio number, oh boy, here we go. 10. Audio 10. I got it. Hang on. So we couldn't arrest those dudes in the boats.

That's why we had to kill them. But we can invade a country to kidnap and arrest their leader? Because fentanyl is killing too many people. That's why we shouldn't feel bad about the boats. But the indictment for the leader only said cocaine. So we go after him for the same exact thing we just pardon the Honduran guy for? Hang on. We can arrest a foreign leader for breaking U.S. law.

but we can't hold even one person accountable who associated with Epstein. A foreign president can be held liable under U.S. law, but an American president can't? That's weird. Hang on. We're doing this because the Venezuelan people want this, but we don't want Venezuelan people here. The people who yell the loudest about refugees sure like to do everything they can to create more refugees. Hang on. The president doesn't need congressional approval to invade and bomb a foreign country and overthrow

its leader and run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition? And that's not a war? Hang on. You mean to tell me the people who screamed, we are not the world's police force? That Kamala would have us in multiple wars and now cheering on the... No new wars president as he starts a war? Oh, and G. I cannot believe it.

This is my shocked face. The only thing that would make this even more pathetically comedic is if Trump or someone else started showing Venezuela bombing footage set to some anti-war song. I mean, can we? Jesus Christ. By the way, if you want to know the Real Bo Cheenche News Network, you're getting, that is audio from the E-N-Shireme.

Bro News Network. That's Hebrew. Because, well, because I think that that's shaped exactly what's going on right now in a way that everybody can understand. Yeah. It's interesting. I was talking to a friend of mine who happens to be Venezuelan and lives in Miami, right? And I was just chatting with her. A, of course they're happy that they're no longer under. You know what I mean? That Maduro's gone, right? They're happy. They're celebrating because they have been through the worst. But she said, do I trust what's going to happen next? Absolutely not. Yeah, two things can be true, Laura Stowe.

Yes, but I think more people are just like, how are these liberals not celebrating, you know, the capturing of such a horrible person? I'm like, two things can be true at the same time. And I think people should listen to Venezuelan people, listen to how they feel. Like, just pay attention because they have been worse. What? What do you mean? I don't listen to Venezuelan people.

I mean, based on how Americans are moving right now, well, at least the American government, they're only listening to corporations. And while there's many of us who wish we would listen to Venezuelan people, there were Venezuelan people who wanted all of this to happen. Matter of fact, the woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize, Machado, who thought she was going to probably replace Maduro. But before the last election in which Maduro refused to step down from, they wouldn't even let her run for president. and the guy that she supported actually won for president. And she's been wanting a corporations from the United States and Israel to come down there and take care of Maduro and get this oil for sale because she's selling to a lot of people that it's going to improve the economy for the middle class and the lower class in Venezuela, which I'm hearing a lot of people in Venezuela don't believe that to be true because prior to Chavez and Maduro, there were many, many, many, many problems in Venezuela with poverty and corporations taking advantage of people, which will probably likely be the same. Oh, by the way, guess where it's exactly like that?

In the United States of America, the country that's claiming to go to Venezuela to fix things. Well, I was going to say that I'm not going to be, I'm not going to purport to know anything about Venezuela, even though somehow everyone on my timeline knows everything about Venezuela. I didn't know my entire timeline was Venezuela experts. Oh, they're in. I'm not going to even purport to know the, to understand everything. I just know it doesn't matter. Like, it's never been good when out of the blue the United States just shows out, whether

the guy's bad or not. And removes the president and says, we run this place now. We can't even run here right now. And to act as if there won't people. further ramifications in the world and that you can just show up places and take if that's what you want to be if that was the whole ibra what happened to the republicans are now the isolationist party and they want to just stay over here america first and we don't want to be the we don't want to be the world's police but now we're

going to run an entire country we're just extract to their president all right man sounds good i i do encourage i do encourage people to go do some learning on this oil thing if you care. You know what I mean? Where Venezuela has a certain type of oil that we used to get from Canada. And now we're going to people expect us to stop spending money with Canada and start spending it, you know, or start using this oil from Venezuela. It is a very interesting economic thing to watch because there is a shift taking place right now. And there's also conversations around this Venezuela thing because Venezuela sold oil to Russia and worked with China. And there were Chinese ships off the coast of Venezuela. And there is talk of this happening in Venezuela because

that means we're going to figure out how to, you know, help Ukraine acquiesce to Russia's demands. And Russia kind of controls their sphere of influence over there. China takes Taiwan and controls that sphere of influence. And South America and that is kind of the United States and Israel's sphere of influence. So it's the, it's the, it's the new, uh, yeah, it's the new, uh, I guess you would call it, uh, axis of powers around the globe. I love controls what. It's going great, man.

This whole thing is. And by the way, we're, it's too bad. A cast, what, what years is this? Oh, we don't have cast one anymore. Hit the button. Oh, damn it. Uh, congratulations. You played yourself.

But either way, it's, look. You can hit the button on anybody that believes we're going into Venezuela for drugs. So, or believe that. Hit that button. And anyone that actually thinks that. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. America, the United States of America is going to improve things in Venezuela economically.

Hit the button. Congratulations. You plagued yourself. I'd been wondering, I finally started hearing people say it. But like, I had been wondering the whole time why there was not more conversation about the obsession with the drugs and the blowing up the boats, which has now turned all the way into invading and taking over Venezuela, while all he was doing was pardoning drug dealers.

That's right. And by the way, and fraudsters. You know, he's going to make sense. No, no, no, none of it makes sense. He's pardoning fraudsters, like guys who were facing, you know, decades for frauding the government and insurance companies and all, pardoning all of them, as well as pardoning, yes, major world drug dealers. Even what's his face?

Big Meach, from small fries, respectfully, small fries like Big Meach to like presidents of countries that were moving thousands of tons. He's letting everybody go. Well, because they want to get to the money, bro. This is all about money. This is none of this is about some sort of moral compass or law and order or the rule of law, none of this.

None of this. I can't believe you're saying that with this. Is this oil, Ebro's audio, Ate, the oil compilation? Let me double check, yes. I mean, a lot of the commentary about all by President Trump's detractors that this is about America wanting Venezuelan oil, which is hard to rationalize, quite frankly, given the amount of oil that we have under.

This is just like talking heads at first on Fox News. They're oil. What we want is a Venezuela that is not an enemy of democracy. Ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to do so. Venezuela unilaterally seized and stole American oil, American assets and American platforms costing us billions and billions of dollars. We built Venezuela oil industry with American talent, drive, and skill, and the social regime stole it from us during those previous administrations and the asset of oil infrastructure

was taken like we were babies so we didn't do anything about it deadly serious about getting back the oil that was stolen from us so as you can hear as much as the commentators on fox news and all these right-wing places want to say it they're saying it to you i mean that's trump and rubio saying it right to your face also can are we not going to mention the fact that trump sounds like he's talking to us from the great beyond oh you mean he's not he's not He sounds so frail. He sounds frail. Oh, my.

Yo, this is in the middle of big things happening. There's definitely. Does not sound good. There's definitely, there's a couple of doctors that I started following on Instagram. Uh-oh, here we go. That deal with dementia patients. And they talk about the bruising on his hands. Yeah.

And his leaning forward being associated with some frontal lobe dementia, how he leans forward when he stands. and the bruising on his hands of how he has to take IVs, different IVs to help him deal with kidney failure and all that, you know, like, because I wouldn't think it's, I wouldn't think it's

traditional dementia like, and by the way, even Donald Trump, I don't wish dementia on anyone. It's a horrible, horrible thing. I don't, I'm not making light of it.

But this doesn't, whatever he's dealing with, it doesn't seem traditional. He doesn't seem like he's, or the drugs are working. He doesn't seem like he's lost track of what's happening in the world. I'll say this. Biden seemed much more confused than Trump seems.

He just seems very tired and like barely there. I think that's because of the multiple things that are going on. You mean the different, you mean different health. Different ailments, not just one. Like there's talking about kidney failure and they're talking about some heart issues. And they're talking about this frontal lobe dementia, which causes people to lean forward a little bit when their stand. because something with the dementia kind of pokes holes in their memory. It's not like the traditional dementia where they completely forget everything,

but it's some frontal lobe dementia where it pokes holes in everything or pokes holes in memory and then they fill those memories with lies. And it's actually... No, that's not fair. I don't like that. Trump has been lying even when he was in a selfie. I don't like... This is what they're saying, man.

I'm just sharing. This is what they're saying. I'll find one of the doctors. I'll bring the audio to the Ebro-Laura Rosenberg show. And I also want to thank everybody for subscribing. Once again, as Laura said, they're pounding and subscribe. Pounding it.

Why do you go to, nah, man, why we got to smash? Well, I don't think that's our aesthetic, a smash and subscribe. I think you just click to subscribe. Yeah, that's there. Although, shout out to It's the Real. My guy, Eric Rosenthal from It's the Real. He had us at the beginning of the show.

And he said, he said he likes you saying, We have plans. He's like, that should be a thing for us permanently. We have plans. We got plans. I mean, we do. We do. We do.

We do got plans. Will we get to all the plans? We'll see. Listen, speaking of big plans, Zoran hit the ground running here in New York City, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see him at somebody's apartment, like,

picking up, like, pieces of the floor and, like, questioning, like, how long has this been going on and this and that and that? And people were like, bro, you already. making more progress than our last mayor. You're actually caring about the people. Here's, here's Zoron from his big inauguration day on January 1st. We will, in the words of Jason Terence Phillips, better known as Jada kiss or J. to the moi.

Jay to the Muir. Be outside. Because this is a government of New York by New York and for New York. Now, I think I'm not speaking at a school and saying, I've heard him reverend. difference j to the moire before yeah he's definitely said jay to and i would just like to say this is the first moment where i'm going to call out zoran for trying one notch too hard when it comes to hip-hop no one except jadekis refers to him as jadez the moire okay i think he just loves it i mean you're right you're right you'd be more like to call him a lot of things how how how how much do we expect

Zoran to stop being so hip hop now that he's on the job. Because I think it's going to continue. Well, yeah, I think you'll stay hip hop in the way that Zoron is hip hop. And I think the way that Zoran is hip hop is as a guy with diverse taste from Queens. I don't think he's Joe, you know, into everything hip hop. But I think when you grow up here and you're a true kid of New York, it's all part of your fabric. And I don't think that's going to go away.

I really don't. So, and Laura, to your observation of him being in the projects, looking at people's floor, that was the first thing he did after he was inaugurated, literally that same day. Bro, slum lords are shook right now, as they should be. And I'm happy. It's about time. So many people who live in NYCHA, like, have the worst living conditions. And people just dismiss it like, oh, while you're in the projects, like, if that's what they deserve.

You know what I mean? And not even outside of NYCHA, like private building. have been suffering for a long time. I mean, all of us have been through Slim Lord departments at one point. Some of us are going through right now. Now, it's appropriate for Laura to say it too because our audio sounds like Nicaa.

Let me be cool. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Congratulations. He plays yourself. Hey, hey. Now, let's go to somebody who's a big cynic on this program. His name is Rosenberg. Are you liking the mom, Donnie Rollout,

all the way around? Are you seeing, you saw him rescind some of the executive orders of Eric Adams, the redefine. know that that uh anti-semitism executive order the the divestment executive order like you know how eric adams was from september to the end of uh the year was pumping out these executive orders to try to get cool with his buddies are you following this yeah yeah i i didn't the only thing i don't like is that i didn't see what the other ones were of course the only ones that got any news were the ones around israel and anti-semitism yeah i think it's the the one the one

The one about that definition of anti-Semitism, I think, is an interesting argument. But either way, I like that he was just getting rid of the stuff that Adams was doing at the last minute just to do it. He wasn't, these were not things that had been longstanding pieces of New York to protect people. These were last minute things that Eric Adams was doing just to try to set Zoran up. That's all it was. These weren't things that were part of New York, at least as far as I could tell. Ebro, to your point, it sounds like they all just came up right at the end. And Zoran just came and I was like, no.

But I'd like to know what the other ones were. Because for clarity on the anti, it was called the IDHS. I think it was called the Israel defamation. Something was the name of it was the name of this definition of anti-Semitism. And for clarity for the audience, the big problem in the executive order and the definition was that it framed any critique of Israel as anti-Semitic. Any critique? It was like real loose like that.

And that was the big talking point. And so then right after he rescinded this executive order, you know he launched a anti-Semitism office for New York City. But that didn't get as much news. That didn't get as much news. Of course. Oh, because, because, okay, the one about the definition of anti-Semitism, Semitism, yes, I know there are a lot of people who feel strongly about that.

And if that's what it includes is that criticism of Israel's anti-Semitism, then it absolutely should be removed. Because that would make everyone an anti-Semite. Because I don't know if you're paying attention. The entire world is against Israel right now. So the idea that that would be anti-Semitic to me is silly. The one that raised my eyebrow a tiny bit was the one about making sure that protests outside of places of worship are like basically kept an eye on. I didn't understand rescinding that one because that is something that bothers me

I don't think you should have I don't think anti-Israel protest should happen outside of a synagogue on your people I could argue no protests should be happening outside of any place of worship that's what I mean like but if you're going to specifically attach your

this is where the lines get so blurry about anti-Semitism and anti-Israel stuff and it's done so it's used it always is used so well by people like Netanyahu if you're going to be an a-hole and decide to go stage a protest outside of just a synagogue on a high holiday, that's what you're giving reason for people to call being anti-Israel anti-Semitic. That is anti-Semitic.

Don't go bothering. Don't go hassling people who are just trying to go pray. Going to pray to your God doesn't mean you're going to support Israel. I didn't understand why he rescinded that one, but I also didn't have enough of an understanding about it to really say much either way. And I think that's why he launched the, what is he calling it? It's executive order two, which is the mayor's office to combat anti-Semitism. How did that not get mentioned in the articles, though? How do the articles only talk about what he rescinded? It didn't say no, he specifically opened up an office, though, that is to deal with real anti-Semitism.

Because, man, that's not how the machine is working right now. They're trying to build a narrative against this guy. And he's working overtime. Over time. Oh, did you see the New York Post all weekend when under the, their headlines about Venezuela. Like the third headline would be like, Mom Doni, Comrade, support

leader of Venezuela. Like, they tie him into anything. They try to put him everywhere. It's crazy. And then they're also coming for his wife. Did you see? Oh, my God, the $600 boot she was wearing. Oh, they

tried to come for fashion. And then people had a defender and be like, yo, they was rented. You know, that's a stylist that lends people pieces. No, they don't know that, Laura. No, and by the way, I'm going to step further than that. There are people out here who make $26,000 a year and still have a pair of $600 boots. Every, if you have a dollar to your name, women are finding out of nice pair of boots.

But they're not Democratic Socialists, Rosenberg. They shouldn't wear suits. He should show up naked everywhere. They should just, they should never wear anything. I think so. These people, man, it's insane. So I went and Googled, I went and ran my Googles on, and I just put in Mamdani executive orders. That's all I put in.

Okay. The only thing that comes up is him defending, eliminating executive orders on anti-Semitism and boycotting Israel. That's it. I cannot find a link to all of the executive orders that he's put forth. And I can't even find a link. I can't even find a link to the executive orders that. he took down from Eric Adams. I look too. That's why I didn't have much to say about it.

I'm like, all I see is the same headlines. You cannot find what else he actually did. Meanwhile, NYC.gov, if you go there, it's Executive Order 2. You could download Executive Order 2, and you can read all about... Executive Order 1 was the rescinding of the Eric Adams' executive orders, I believe. Executive Order 2 was the Office of Anti-Semitism.

It's a lot of executive order. Yeah. The man is ordering and ordering and ordering. And he's doing it on TV like the Trump model, you know, with the cameras are rolling on every executive order. It's a press moment. Oh, did he do it that way? I didn't know.

Yeah. Like, well, he was doing it like he when he was, you know, when he's standing in front of the building, talking about going after these slum lords when he's, you know, it's all, he's going to do it all on camera. It's going to be very transparent. He has to. That's the only weapon that he has. He has to be completely transparent.

Anybody who's blocking anything that he's trying to do, he has to put people on blast. That's the only way. People don't read. People are constantly trying to hide everything from him. People are trying to attack him in every way possible. Just being transparent is the only thing he can do. That's right.

We'll see. We'll see. Listen, it's very early. I'm excited to see how it goes for the guy. I'm a fan. All right. Now it's time for Laura Stiles and the Blankety Blank Report. Blankety Black.

Oh, here we go. All right. So I was surprised on this pop-off. By the way, time out. Time out. Sorry, Laura. Sorry, Laura. Okay.

Okay. Okay. You guys didn't get together to designate an instrumental for this. There we have zero production value because we're waiting on a name. So we couldn't even produce some sort of intro for this. And the two intros that we've given you,

you've said no to. So I just, I want to document this for the audience. The two intros. What are the two intros? I'm sorry, the two names, the two names. The BBC or BNN. You don't want either one.

Yo, meanwhile, I got to give credit what creditors do. Ebro, Ebro brought his real camera on his trip. Yep. I just zoomed in. This is a better picture than you have at home, bro. I don't know what setting you have. This joint looks clean. Nice.

Here I am, baby. All right, Laura, here's your unnamed, unnamed in bed that will change. Here we go. Oh, that sucks. Okay, okay. What about... Okay. Okay.

That's kind of tough. Oh, it's kind of tough, though. It's boom bat. Yes. All right, what do you got, Laura? All right. So the class action lawsuit that alleges that Drake, Aiden Ross, and along with steak, have been promoting illegal gambling. All right.

So there was this class action lawsuit that was filed on New Year's Eve. It popped up. It alleges that Drake not only promoted illegal gambling on the website, Steak, but also, you know, diverted funds to artificially pump up the song stats on music platforms. Can't do that. That's the part where I was like, what? Listen, I always thought the steak stuff was a little like, I don't know, I always thought it was a little fishy guys. I was like, why does he need to do this?

He's so rich. Like, what is the point? Always look brooch, yeah. Right? It always looks strange. So the lawsuit pretty much, I guess it has a tipping feature, guys. So this is where it gets tricky. They're saying that steak helped Drake just.

guys, funds using this tipping feature and internal transfers to pay bot farms to juice, you know, his plate counts on music sites like spot-fop. This is what they're saying. Yeah. So, you know, all of this is, uh, all of these allegations constitute a pattern of racketeering activity. No, Griff. I'm not sending Drake the axe emoji, Griff.

I already, but what does you mean? I already did. Hey, Griff, get on line. bro. Get online, bro. It already happened. And I told Rosenberg, axe is wrong. It should have been a hammer, a nail, and a coffin. Because this, no, this isn't the nail in the coffin. You're just saying, I would have been funnier. I think, I think it made it more succinct for people online to follow. I just threw up the triple axe emoji in just a moment of straight pettiness. I would have never done it, except that you were actually waiting on our downfall. The fact that you were actually waiting on our downfall, the fact that you were actually waiting on our downfall. Now that means I have to throw things up when you're getting caught up. And the funniest thing here to me, and here's how you know there's probably some meat on the bone here.

Well, two things. Number one, are you trying to tell me steak was not for actual betting with money? No, I don't think that's what they're saying. That's not what they're saying. Okay, so it is supposed to be a betting with money website. Yeah, I don't think that's supposed to be. Yeah. Okay, so it's just about how they're allocating the funds.

Okay. The reason I think that there's no I think there I think there is a loophole in the tipping and transfer of funds that's not regulated It's it's it's a little bit more Subversive than the obvious got it but we have a breakdown though you want to hear it? I mean it will this make sense? I think so it's pretty clear. All right here we go audio 12 then you need to pay attention to this. Drake and Aiden Ross were just named in a federal RICO lawsuit.

But the real story isn't the gambling. It's the man that the feds say were secretly moving their money in order to rig the music industry. The lawsuit claims that Steak isn't just a casino. It's a massive money laundering conduit. Steak has an internal tipping feature that is completely encrypted and unregulated. And the feds allege that Drake and Aiden Ross were using this feature in order to move sums of up to $100,000,

at a time. Bypassing every financial regulator in the U.S. They weren't just gifting each other. The suit claims that this is how they were funding a massive off-the-books operation. But the guy you want to pay attention to is this guy right here, George Nguyen, aka the man who runs the Grand Wizard Chat Meme account on Instagram. The lawsuit actually names him as the operational broker. The feds allege that Drake and Aiden Ross would tip or gift George this money, who then funneled that cap. to bot vendors and streaming farms

in order to artificially inflate Drake's streams so he could crush his competition and music. So here's why I'm going to hit you with the biggest. Congratulations, you plagued yourself. Is that, and this will segue us if you want to, if we want to get into this Aidan Ross nonsense. This is the most Trumpian-ish of all time. These people are obsessed with saying

that bots are affecting people's music numbers. They're obsessed with it. Whatever they say you're doing is what they're doing. This is the Trump thing. Because I'm always like, why is this idiot, Aiden Ross always talking about Dochi and bots and this and that and this one? Because they're doing it. That's why. Now, before we get too far down the road, I want to shout out to Billy They Cyrus.

At Pablo T. Don, that was their audio. Oh, thank you. That's good job. You know what I mean? Because I want to make sure that we, you know, the people that are using their audio and maybe supporting our community as we build it, we shot them out. Great report. But yes, Rosenberg. Because I've never understood what their obsession is with this whole Kendrick bots thing.

I'm like, the only place that I sense bots now, and like I didn't used to think this, I'm not some sort of expert on that. Anytime I mention Drake, the way that my mentions are shows me that there's an entire. bot world that's a part of it just like nicky it can't so here goes that guy the the name when or what they call it grand wizard chat inward yeah or whatever when that guy is named you know the internet say he runs also academics tv on twitter yeah i read that too i read that too yeah there's a connection there well the fact that he has his name is grand wizard we won't even get into how offensive that is But the fact that it's Grand Wizard chat N-word, that is- And he's a, I think he's a Filipino kid from Australia.

People have gone as far as to see where his account was made, which is in Australia, and academics TV was created, which is in Australia. But even that terminology, chat N-word, isn't that straight up, I think that's academic slang. That's like from his chat. Oh, okay. I mean, you know more than me, but. I just know I've heard him say that quite a bit when he's saying horrible things about me over the listen man this is this is you know all the bottom and all of all of that

noise aside i would like to still say i don't like how drake is going out here bro i don't like it i didn't want to see it i don't want it to be like this he's a great songwriter he's brought great things to the game great music to the game like i don't want to see this like not like totally couldn't agree more no one will believe No one will believe us. Everyone will think we sincerely want his downfall. Part of the reason I've been so angry and annoyed about Drake's moves are is because he is ruining his legacy. He is he is damaging himself in ways that will become impossible to get up from. And he'll be one of these cats whose reputation there are two worlds. There's the real world view and there's the view of your obsessed stands who think everything you do is is gold. But the real world. view of him is changing in sort of real time with all of this nonsense and it's not good no it's not it's not what it's not the way it was supposed to go bro and i don't and i you know i don't know how i was supposed to go but i you know drake is revered and was like loved for

his abilities and his team's abilities to make songs and make music so much music and all that and for this to go this way no no no what a federal a federal real real Rico charge alleging that you were like scamming streams using a gambling app between you and a a bozo like aiden raw eight yo think about aden ross bro no aiden ross no aden ross sums up oh he's not like not like us not like us the version of the version of the version of drake that kendrick painted and that so many people are like wow is that who you are That guy is Aiden Ross. That's Aidan Ross.

You are standing next to and they stood next to the Laura. I remember when Laura got here and reported it. They did a whole campaign together. They've been standing next to each other so tough. This guy, this, you want to talk about a culture vulture. You want to talk about someone who just sucks from the culture while not even caring about it or giving it. It's disgusting. And that's where Drake may have been doing all of this stuff while he just tried to.

file a lawsuit because he didn't like the raps well now well now now now I got to get you a little space here because uh Rosenberg because I sent you a audio clip that came across my timeline on Twitter and it was aton Ross calling into academics oh to try to art but to try to articulate and justify Laura style calling doche a dirty banished how he calls all women who are just untalented trash. And it's not based on race and it's not this. And then he goes into, you know, everybody

just, you know, I'm gonna call the cops. I walk around with four security guards and I live in a state war to stand your ground. I don't know why y'all threatening my life. I might get Mossad next to protect me. And then, yeah, yeah. I don't know why you're crazy. No, that's crazy.

And then he starts going. Then he starts going, you know, everybody, I know I'm not supposed to be speaking because I'm just the Jewish kid. Yo, he starts throwing around the Jewish kid card. Yo, Rosenberg, I know seeing this has you a level of frustrated. That is unbearable. All of it is a mess to me, bro. And I even, even just, because I, I just remember this part.

Was Drake also giving, like, Rolexes to some other, like, right-wing streamers? Yeah, yeah, but that was that, yeah, that's another. That's, that's, that's. But it just keeps going on and on. No, but the, the Aden Ross piece here, I'm still, I've been trying to put my thought together about it for a long time. I've been trying to put my thoughts together about it for a long time. And I do it mindfully because the one time I spoke out against Aidan Ross

when he said something, I forget what he did. He like, he like forgave someone of anti-Semitism publicly, like Kanye or something. He was like, nah, you're good with the Jewish people. and I went out there I was like yo bro shut the F up you do not speak for anyone who are you when I did that I like immediately started getting threatening phone calls so I am mindful of dealing with this dude and the crazy people that follow him he is it's like everyone who at some point hated me this is what they thought I was this is what they thought I was a rich He's a rich, untalented, nothing, no love for hip hop, no care whatsoever, clearly veiled racism and not so veiled racism all the time.

And more than anything, the thing that makes me like, all of it's disappointing and gross, but, Ebro, the one thing that jumps off the page about him that's unusual for a Jewish person who's in this role, he's also dumb. Like he's not smart at all. When he talks, I'm like, oh my God. Even the Jews I usually don't like, I'm like, yo, I don't like Ben Shapiro. I don't like Ben Shapiro. He's a smart dude. He's just a bad guy. You are like not educated.

This guy is dumb. You're not even good at being a Jew. You're a bad Jew. What are you wrong with this guy? Like he is, it's so bad. And then to hear him and academics have this meeting of the mind. No, the meeting of the minds of academics be like, nah, nah, and thanks, well, you're smart.

You're a smart black. Thank you academics for knowing I'm not racist. I mean, after all, I hire black people. I can't be racist. I call everyone dirty. I was like, yo, Ebro had me watch this first thing this morning. This is the first thing I did. No, I did.

I did. Yo, yo, but it was an active weekend. It was an active weekend because then, on the other hand, you had this guy tracks. over in the Diamond District going through the whole fight in the Diamond District over diamonds. So you have Jewish kid Aidan Ross doing whatever the shenanigans he's doing. And then on the other side, you've got this tracks, who's this Jewish Ashkenazi jewelry dealer in the Diamond District, getting into a brawl with other Jewish jewelers. Yeah, it was a bad weekend for the Jews, Rosebro.

I don't even want to count. Yo, 47th Street's a crazy place. Okay? That's like, that's kind of like, I can't even like try to jump. Now, I did send a text. I reached out to a, to a friend of mine, all of us know Greg Juna. And I did ask him, I'm like, is this real? This seems fake.

And Greg said, no, this is very real. Which I was like, I told him, I'm like, nah, bro. Nah. I mean, I'm not saying that the animosity is not real. But tracks had to know what he was doing here, bro. Those videos are getting 50 million views. Well, and he promotes heavy on his Instagram. He's got 7 million followers on Instagram.

And he promotes heavy, you know, go to this.com, buy this piece of jewelry. Dot com. And he makes good content. Like, it started hitting my algorithm thanks to this conversation. He started hitting me over and over again. I'm like, oh, yeah, he pays to be seen. Yes. And then the stuff that he does is like well-produced, very sticky sort of content.

Yes. But I'm like, why is this getting so much attention? I guess the initial video. is shocking because you just don't see people screaming like that. Very awesome. The spit. The spit is disgusting. I saw the spit later. The spit was crazy.

Oh, the spit was crazy. But Rosenberg, it piqued my interest to put it on your radar in such a heavy way because neither of these Jewish stereotypes fit you at all. But people think this is you. And so I was like, bro, this is what Rosenberg hates the most. is people look at him like he's an Aden Ross or someone in the Diamond District. Congratulations.

Congratulations. You played yourself. Because he's right. Because he's right. No, when I first came along, a lot of people literally associated with the worst stereotypes they could ever have. And he's right.

You have two versions that are just so awful. The Diamond District screaming, crazy, not to be trusted lunatics. And then, Then you have who are just like, you know, money grubbing. Then you have this Aidan Ross, who by the way, has now made it his brand to do this money grubbing hand thing. He's like, this dude is actively trying to create anti-Semitism and division between people. Oh, God.

And why are you obsessed with Dochi, bro? And why do you think you know about music and what music's really being strict? You have no background in music. This is the problem we accept. And Ebro, this is why I get frustrated, even with the good streamers, is that we have accepted that if you come from the video game streaming world and get popular enough, you can talk about anything. And that's a scary, scary thought.

Well, the podcast world created this, man. These are people who have never played music in public or played music, you know, to find hits or anything like that. And they popped up with podcasts. And they started interviewing people who wanted. And so you have the convergence of two things. You have people who have figured out how to use the internet to get eyeballs, converging with people in the music business who just want promo at any cost.

They want to get their name out there and their music seen and heard. Like that's the grind. And so the convergence of those two things are why you have the world you have. But I got to be honest when I, you know, now that we're doing more of this, I'm focusing on like, who's doing what, right? I'm looking at you. YouTube's. I'm looking at podcasts. I'm looking at people who have big, big reactions to their podcast content on Instagram, but have zero downloads of the actual podcast. I'm looking at

people who have huge YouTube claiming there are podcasts, but zero downloads of the actual audio of the podcast. Well, that's- We're calling it a podcast. So that is a big thing, though. I spoke to someone this week who knows a lot about podcasts and has done very well. And she was saying to me, no audio podcasts are growing anymore. Like there's no growth in audio podcasts with the exception of if you have a huge video podcast, your audio podcast may do okay,

but audio podcasts just aren't growing. The only place, quote, podcasts now grow are on the streaming platform, which is a weird concept. Yeah, but it's so weird. You mean on YouTube is the only place they grow? Well, yeah, I guess YouTube, but I mean,

I wonder whether the academics of the world, like, I don't know, maybe Twitch and other places where they're essentially doing their show too or Rumble or whatever these places are. I don't know, kick. But yeah, it's all video. The concept of the audio podcast as a big thing. Like, I've been telling you guys for a long time and I'm finally going to do it now that life has changed. I'm going to launch this new podcast that I've been excited to do about addiction and stuff. And I was talking to this person about it. She was like, you're going to lead video, right?

And I was like, oh, yeah. I mean, that's what I assume I have to do. She was like, you cannot lead audio. There's the, and I wanted to. My initial thought was, I want to talk about stuff that's like so personal. I think audio is the better platform. Because I really think, I think nobody wants it. Nobody wants it.

Nobody wants it. They, as much as people say they're streaming podcasts, they're streaming, well, look at this. Our debut on, on, we are, this is our first day ever streaming live and we're doing it at 8 a.m. on a day when everyone except Ebro is back to work. And we've broken, we're up near 2,700 live people watching this. It's a pretty high number for a morning show. You wouldn't think. Yeah, we got to, I think we got to do radio stuff here.

We got to, like, do a shout-out? You got to have people, do we have a chat? Like, can we shout to the chat? You know, I see I show speed talking about the chat. I see Kassan not talk about the chat. Yeah, but that's a different kind of show, I don't know if we want to live in the chat. I want to say, yo, chat. Well, how do you feel about the show?

If you're going to say, yo, chat, then I'm going to say smash subscribe. Just, no, come on, Laura. Please don't, please don't. What's better? Shouting out to chat or smash subscribe. You guys just sound so washed. So old. No, bro.

Congratulations. You play yourself. We sound nuts right now. Ebro, can I hit you with a little, let me hit you with a little bit of, can I give you a little bit of NFL update from the weekend? Now we go now to ESPN's own Rosenberg. That's right. has other jobs and he wants to give us some sports.

I do not. I'm going to the soup kitchen later today. Not to work to get food. That's right. Here we go. All right. Here we go. So let me see. Wait, time out. Sidebar. Sidebar. Let me reset this up. Do you think we would get a cease and desist if we call this to E&N? I don't think we should do that. Yeah, the way things have been going with us in cease and desist, let me not step on my afternoon show.

All right, all good. We don't want any more, though, okay? We have enough. Yeah, no, let's hope, let's hope people support both shows, you know, in the afternoon. Maybe they stream, stream me over there. Okay. You know, let's, let's, let's work on some community here. So the first, uh, the first playoff games will be on Saturday, the 10th.

Okay. Um, that's the math, right? Yes, Saturday. That's Saturday. So 430, probably the worst game of the slate. Um, the panthers. Jumping in, assuming everybody knows that football is going into the playoffs after this past weekend. Yeah, the playoffs have been set.

Okay. Your buys are the, The Seahawks in the NFC and the Broncos in the AFC. What a wacky year, all right? No chiefs getting the buy, no Eagles getting the buy. The Seahawks on the Broncos. I love this. Oh, it's wide open this year, you bro.

430. You got the Panthers at the Rams, which is kind of a whatever game. Okay. But Saturday night, 8 o'clock. Here we go. The Bears and the Packers in the first round. Oh, come on. That's classic football.

That's NFL film. That's NFL. The NFL films, the Frozen Tundra. Come on. Let's get it on. The first, by the way, that Panthers Rams on Fox. The Bears Packers is on Prime. So that'll be your Al Michaels vehicle. So that's Saturday night, 8 o'clock.

Then we go to Sunday, January 11th, where the early game will be the Jaguars at the Bills. That's also not a particularly sexy game. But those Jags, people, I listen. I might watch football in the playoffs. I haven't watched a quarter of football. All year. I haven't watched a full quarter. I've seen minimal highlights.

I've not checked the sports report. And not for any other reason other than just I have a toddler and I have other things that are recorded. But how open it is this year is. No, I love the names I'm hearing. I love the. And I like the L.A. Rams being back in the hunt. I like this. Oh, the Rams are very, Rams could go the whole way.

So, so the Sunday afternoon game. in 430 because the Eagles decided to play all their backups and lose to my commies yesterday. Because they decided to do that, they are now the three seed and they will go to San Francisco. Eagles, Niners. That's a game. That's a football. You, based on what I'm hearing from my friends who are Niners friends who I really can't stand, the Niners are something to deal with.

Brock Purdy's out here playing football. No, they're a real threat this year as well. so are the Eagles, but the Eagles on the road, not quite the same as the Eagles at home in the playoffs at least. So that'll be interesting. And then the night game on Sunday, you want to talk about another smoker. Yeah.

The Patriots and the Chargers. Like this. Yeah, bro. Yo, and I never thought I never thought I would come back around because I wasn't really anti-Patriots until the tuck rule, right? And then I just didn't, couldn't do it. After the tuck rule, my Raiders. Sorry, let me correct.

Let me correct myself, by the way, the Eagles game is in Philly. Sorry, it's just the 40. They're now playing the 49ers because they lost, but the game is in Philly. Sorry, continue. There's something I want to see the Patriots kind of rebound post Belichick. Is that weird? Is that weird? Yes, it is weird.

I have no interest in seeing that, but it's happening. I don't want to see it. But I think it's a bad matchup for the charge. Who's their head coach? Their head coach is the, is the man who is part of the entire. You don't, he went down. first of all, part of the entire original Patriots run. That's what makes this thing especially sweet.

Mike Vrable. Is that your man was the linebacker on the initial. That's right. Rable. And then went down, everyone already thought Vrable was good. And then they brought him back home. And now Mike Vrable has this team smoking. I mean, and by the way, I thought Vrable already seemed good on previous stops.

But this is where it's all working out. He's got this team playing. Drake May is a legit MVP candidate. And I think it's a bad matchup for the Chargers who are completely beat up on the offensive line. Justin Herbert's been hurt for like a month. So I don't love that matchup for them. And then the Monday nighter, thanks to last night's insane game,

the Steelers will host the Texans on Monday night football. And last night's back and forth was absolutely crazy. Steelers end up winning on a missed field goal by the Ravens at the last second. I think the reason the Ravens missed the field goal at the end of the game, basically a chip shot to win the game. It was the ghost of Justin Tucker. Oh, damn. You know what I'm saying?

Like because Justin Tucker decided to go out there and do this full on, what's his face, Deshawn Watson routine with the massage therapist and not admit. Oh, man. Now the curse of Justin Tucker pushed it wide right. and now the Steelers, Aaron Rogers, old man Rogers in the playoffs. So I'm not going to lie. It's a, it's a fun, fun.

All I can really think about when I hear Aaron Rogers is how the Jets just fumble everything. The Jets are just sell the team. Get rid of the team. They got, the way they got lambasted by the bills yesterday. I saw that on my Apple sports app. I do get that.

I do get scores on the sports app. I do that. So you see a little something, something. I see scores. And only because I have the notifications on. So one thing I keep notifications on for. I have no other notifications other than the sport. But the, but the, uh, sell the team.

Sell the team. Rogers is playing right now with no D.K. Metcalfe. Yo, his best receiver might be Adam feeling. Like he did, they do not have anything. Mike Tomlinson, my guy. No, why'd you add a son to Mike Tomlin's name though? Because that's his name. Mike Tomlin's son.

Mike Tomlin's son. No, I guess you're right. Maybe that's a piece of it. I know he loves Tomlin, but maybe there's just a curse on the Jets, bro. Yeah, it is. Laura, did you enjoy that Rosenberg sports desk? Sure. She hated all of it.

I was like sure. She hated it. Laura, before we break today, have you came up with a name for your segment? Not yet, man. I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to figure it out. When? We got to do this again tomorrow.

All right. All right. Maybe hopefully tonight come over the biggest. Yo, the biggest pet peeve I hear from people who really care a lot about us. And Rosenberg, you heard this also. Hmm. Is our graphics suck. Get it together. Yes.

I heard that too. Why does this look so unprofessional? I haven't heard that much of that. I just think Joe Budden said that. I haven't heard it that everywhere. I've heard it. I've heard it from you. I heard it from Budden and I heard it from two other people.

I just remain nameless. I just think we could improve. I don't think it's horrible. but you keep going well so but you operate and this needs to be discussed rozenberg you operate in a podcast space where at any given time you're juggling 12 podcasts right some have high production some have no production so you just you could do this all day and be happy just the fact that you have a microphone and you're talking yeah it still blows my mind that we're able to do this but i was a kid this is all i dreamed about you could do a show from home you could just jump on to do a show people see me me on the other hand i operate

from a place of delivering, trying to deliver something that has, has a higher value. Really? Where was the other, otherwise why am I showing up? Really, where was the last place you did a morning show? Well, we were delivering high value. No, no, we were. With what I could control. Right. We were delivering high value.

What about that once? What about that Cheeto backdrop though? Well, that that's why we are sitting here. Congratulations. You played yourself. Who was that button for? Who was that button for? Who was that button for?

Was that button for me? Or was that button for... No, the button was for you for saying you're used to us working in places that do like high quality stuff. No, I didn't say that. I said, I used to delivering. No, no, no, I'm used to delivering. Delivering. High value.

Yeah. No, and I think we are. We're delivering high value. We should have to clean some things up. But listen, even today, we managed to figure it out. You're in an undisclosed location. You sound great. Laura sounds like ish, but you're just.

She made it back from across the world. She has a microphone. We're days away from this thing being a smooth. We got plans, guys. We got plans. I know we got plans, but there's blood in the water. There's blood in the water, and we got plans. Oh, I had a couple things.

Two more quick things I wrote down that I wanted to hit. Ebro, I saw some more movies. Okay, what did you see? Here's, I'm going to say this to you guys. This is a rare year where a lot of the movies nominated are actually like appealing and easy to watch and not like a complete slog to get through. Okay. There's a lot of them.

So this weekend, I finished one battle after another. Amazing. Love that movie. I watch. Leo and Tiana? That's, that's Leo. Congratulations.

You played yourself. No, no. Laura, that's why you're getting the button. A, because you don't know it. B, because you would love it. C, because it's our girl Tiana Taylor. D, because you were on vacation last week when we discussed. us the fact that we were late to getting to it.

We hit ourselves with the button for it. So I'll hit the button again on Laura Stiles. Congratulations. You plays yourself. Did I just see on the Taylor Leo movie? I've been wanting to watch it. I just got to get to it. It's so, it's so good. That was great. I watched Bagonia.

I've never, never even heard of it. Which you will love. You will love Bagonia. What's in? Give me the plot. It's about this crazy guy who, Jesse Plemans, who's an actor, you'll know when you see him, but I'm not going to waste time describing him.

Because Roggeberg knows, no matter if he describes or gives me a name of an actor, won't know him. He's no, you'll know him from Breaking Bad for sure. No, no, no, I know their face, but I never know their name. By the way, I wouldn't have remembered his name. I wouldn't have put the name with the face to like a week ago. So he plays like a crazy, you know, a guy who works at this place and has ended up down a rabbit hole of the internet.

And him and like his, you know, sort of autistic, cousin, they decide to kidnap the CEO of this company because they've decided she's an alien. And they've been watching on YouTube all the videos about the aliens. And so they full on, they full on kidnapper and bring them to, bring a, you'll love it. You'll love it. It's all about right now. It's just very right now what's going on. So that's Bagonia.

I really, really enjoyed it. And then I watch on the other side of things, just a feel good movie. It's based on a Stephen King short story, The Life of Chuck. It's awesome. Life of Chuck is fantastic. I loved it. Super just feel good. I can't say it's feel good.

It's emotional. It's just about viewing life. And the dude who's getting a lot of talk about this, you want to feel old. Ebro, Mark Hamill, is getting nominated for this movie. I know that guy. For Best Supporting Actor, playing a grandfather. He's the grandfather. Laura, it's Luke Skywalker, and he's playing the grandfather in the movie.

It just makes you feel, when you see him now, you're like, that's Mark Hamill. Wow. Right, right, right. Well, Rosenberg, I want you to enjoy all of this movie watching, right? Thank you. Because MJ, that's right. My niece is still young enough for you guys to watch things. And without her completely taking over the television and entertainment for several reasons.

Oh, no, she can't be there. I got to do it at night. You got to commit to doing this after she goes down. Oh, really? You're, I can't, I can't. We fall asleep. We fall asleep. I'm out.

Putting the baby down, putting the baby down, I fall asleep. It takes two days worth. It takes two days. You watch it in a couple of days. That's how it goes. Come on, guys. Well, look, enjoy it. Enjoy it before this toddler life hits you because you're on the path.

The toddler likes even worse out here. Oh, the toddler life is about to get you, bro. Yep. Wait, real quick, before we went to parenting, you know what I did watch guys, that was so good. I saw the Luther documentary. Oh, I told you was a good one, right? my god, Rosenberg, I shit tears. It was beautiful. It was beautiful.

There's so much I learned and just his, I mean, I always knew about the, the weight fluctuation and the issues, man, but when you just- Oh, man, it gets your heart- You know, there's a lot of Luther's, Laura. There's a lot of Luther's. I didn't know what you was talking about. Oh, man. There's Martin Luther King.

There was the show Luther. I was like, they did a documentary on that. Like, that's great. Never too much. Never too much. No, no. But it's beautiful, man. If you get a chance, Ibro, you'll love it.

I saw it already. The whole thing about him finding love or not finding love, that broke my heart, Rosenberg. Yeah. It took long enough to get to the gay part. I sat there going if they don't get to the gay part. Wait, why was that something you were sitting waiting for? Because everyone knows Luther's gay, but it was never like a complete part of, part of Luther Vandross's public sort of persona is all these amazing things about him. History is a backup singer and then becoming a star.

blah, blah, but also the fact of Sesame Street, weight loss, you know, weight gain, all those things are in there. But the other one is that people always, you know, said that Luther Vandross was gay, but it was at a time in which he didn't come out. So as the movie's going on, I'm just like, are we not going to, this is definitely part of his conversation. I think there's another piece to that. But they got to it.

In my world, in my world of being raised by black women, black women loved his voice and his music so much that they wanted to love him. This is how it was always articulated to me. They just wanted to love him. They didn't want, like, they knew he was gay, but it was like, so what? He's fabulous and his voice is fabulous and his music is fabulous. And I feel like the beauty and the love that he talks about in his music is what I want for myself. total i think i think you just very well summed up what the sentiment was on him yes so i i say i say that

to say no in my world nobody was sitting around wondering if the fedrosse was gay because they knew he was gay yes god well no that's all i'm saying yeah you're right and listen he shared and they talk about this in the dock he shared as much as he wanted to share at that time Now, if Luther Vandross became a star in 2000 instead of the mid-80s, his life would probably have been different. Yeah. Yeah. We live in a world now where people can't just fall in love with art without asking questions about the individual's personal life. Well, not only that, but like we, 1985 was like, bro, when I got on the radio in New York in 2007, the homophobia was crazy.

in 07. So like, well, I'm not sure that the 80s were homophobic. The way people was wearing leather halter tops and beads and belly rings and all that. You know what I mean? Rappers was running around and halter tops with leather pants. Yeah, but don't you dare. Like still homophobic. Yeah.

Don't you care. In a crop top. While, yo, while while also while also being in gay clubs and yes, didn't want to be outwardly gay, while rumors of you circulated that you had a boyfriend or a girlfriend. Exactly. It was a different time. But yeah, beautiful doc. It's a great dot, man.

And I didn't even quite realize how, you know, I didn't grow up in a household where people listened to Luther Vandross. So I didn't get to know Luther until later, until my ex-girlfriend loved dance with my father. Wow. That was your entry. Not my entry. I'd heard never too much and stuff like that.

But, like, I didn't really have a true appreciation of Luther until way later, until the 2000s. But yeah, he was the man. Well, we learned today that Laura finally got to the Van Dross, Luther Vandross documentary. We also learned that Rosenberg is a different type of perturbed having to deal with tracks, the jeweler. And Aiden Ross taking up the timeline.

No, I don't think about tracks. You're projecting. I don't think about tracks. It's whatever. That jewelry issue is weird. It doesn't bother me as much. The Aiden Ross thing. In Ross thing, for sure.

Because it's too close to hip hop. That's why it's like in your sphere a little bit, in your universe. Well, no, and not only that, there's a personal part about like, oh, remember when, remember when people actually thought I was a bad white guy? And you didn't realize what a bad white guy actually looks like? And you should also know that people still think you're a bad white guy. And people still think I'm a bad white guy. You didn't even know.

And this is the, but this is the problem. There's levels to this bad white guy-ish. And we spend our time as a society. We like to always get our panties in a bunch about everything. So then when the real. ish hits, you're like, oh. It's like how Democrats used to literally say, I'm not kidding, I remember this. Ebro, we talked about this. George W. Bush is Hitler. Oh, man.

They had no idea. That was the big. No, we thought he was as bad a human as could ever. And this is why we have to learn to pace ourselves because he was bad, but there was worse around the corner. Well, and on that note of worse around the corner, I want to reiterate to anybody, whether you're Venezuelan or not, the United States of America doesn't even care about its citizens. So please don't expect them to care about you. It is just about oil.

It is just about money. Please never forget. Please. And also smash subscribe, turn on your notifications and all that. Because we'll be back tomorrow morning. And I also want to leave on this. This is not what we wanted to see Drake go out like. We did not want to see this.

We did not want to see this. No, we did not. And hopefully it's not, hopefully it doesn't go bad. Hopefully it doesn't go bad. Yeah. But if it does. All right.

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