The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show - 79.) Russini-Vrabel Scandal, Hasan Piker on ELR?, + WrestleMania Weekend (4/16/26)

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Today on Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg - Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg are talking about Rosenberg defending Ebro, the Russini Scandal, Hasan Piker coming on Ebro?, Iceman drops May 3rd, FBI looks into Offs...et Shooting - and so much more! (4/16/26) Support the show on Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just don't call it a podcast. Ebro-Lora Rosenberg Show. Hey, Ebro-Lara Rosenberg show in the studio together one day this week. Because you're about to go ESPN it up, WWE it up, WrestleMania, so you got to like make sure your shirts are ironed. I got to literally run out of here, do TV, hit the airport, the clear port. Are you taking a PJ? Yeah, they called JFK, the Clearport. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I didn't know. Jet blue from JFK. No, nobody called it. Okay. Clearport, I think, is private jet. Yeah. Well, it's not that. But I'm mint, though, which I feel pretty good about it.
Starting point is 00:00:41 That's fancy. By the way, to me, private jet of Jays. So, yeah, it's going to be a busy-ass weekend, guys. I will not be on Family Friday because I will be on first take from Vegas with Stephen A and a whole whole bunch of wrestlers on there. Roman Raines and many people. Is there going to be there? Don't bring me up around Stephen A. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:01 Keep that. No, self-preservation. No, I lie, I like. Do your dance. You know what I'm saying? Get out there. Do your dance. Oh, you know I'm dancing this weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm bringing my dancing shoes. Hey. You got dancing clothes on right now. Matter of fact, they might be like, how's it going with Ebro? Lauren them. I'm like, who? No, I got fire from hot. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:21 New year, new me. I don't know. Sometimes you outgrow people. You know what I mean? It is what it is. They didn't understand where I was going. So I'm here now. Damn.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Hey, listen. I applaud. Yeah, no, you got to do the dance. So I'm looking forward to it. So that means tomorrow you won't be here, which is a great opportunity for us, Laura Stoules, talk shit behind his back. We can do that.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Excuse my language. Because I'm sure there will be emails that will have something to say to you. I'll try to avoid those and save those, but there's any good ones that I feel like, you know, I got to. So real quick, the reward for me, going on a rant, looking like a raving lunatic in defending you.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah. Your response will be on Friday. day to talk shit about me the second I leave. Yeah. All right. You know what? I'm glad to know it's 2026 and we're on brand folks. Well, because I'm not even quite sure I loved what you decided you wanted to do with talking
Starting point is 00:02:13 about the ways in which I am financially okay. I'm sorry. I appreciate you. Let me say that. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate you. I receive your appreciation.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I recognize the effort and I recognize that it was from a great place. Also, now I am vehemently aware that individual. will be now looking into what I actually do at Apple and trying to cause problems from here. They already knew that, like, did they? Yeah. Well, no, they didn't know, they didn't know the extent to which you're successful,
Starting point is 00:02:44 but they knew if they wanted to cause problems, they could try to, you know what I'm saying? I don't think it changes anything except, you know, and here's the argument I made because I was, I ended up arguing in comments with Wayno because it was posted on, who posted us? A Jasmine brand. Shout to the Jasmine brand.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah, you know. No, I didn't know. I didn't know he was going to be such hot content on your thing, but I am appreciative. This is a new endeavor, and we will take all the problems. Somehow I ended up on that page. Respectfully, I'm not a follower of the Jasmine brand,
Starting point is 00:03:12 but I ended up there because the post was there. You should probably you're going to follow now, though. I should. So I jumped in there, and I saw Wayno had comments. It shouts to Wayno, known him forever since he was a music manager. Now he's doing his thing on the content front.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And he said, like, you know, why do you respond to this? There's no point. You know, He's like, let the internet internet. Yeah, that's something along those lines. That's how I feel a lot of times. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And my opinion at that moment was, I said, F all that, I don't think people should be able to just go on and lie and lie. Now, last thing we're to say about this guy, I know our EL Army is sick of it and ready to move on. I just want to be clear. If it had been three people sending tweets, I promise you I wouldn't have felt the need to say anything about and come to Ebro's defense and Cape for Ebro. However, it wasn't three random tweets. We're talking about like video after video Jason Lee and this like think pieces from people who like are somewhat tangentially in the world that we're in So it got to a point where I'm like that's enough.
Starting point is 00:04:13 No, I'm going to just at least lay a couple of truths out there and it may not change minds But I don't I don't necessarily I understood what Wayno was trying to say I don't think necessarily the answer is to always say nothing So and by the way we got a show to do every day guys So you know what I'm saying if people are going to keep talking and we're going to be be in the news. I'll take some good content. There you go. And Rosenberg is always looking for stuff to talk about. We have a lot of time. And feel about. And when it's stuff that's not that serious, I like it. Like, if it's about serious, like, race and religion and the world. Israel, palestown. Yeah, like, bro, if it's about whether I'm from New York or not. The Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:04:51 It's about, I've always cared deeply about the Strait of Hormuz. If it's about whether I'm from New York or what Ebro does or how academics, dresses. Like, it's fun. I don't. That's how I see. That's fun. It's good times. I just am not, you know, I enjoy people not knowing what I actually do.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I don't. I do. As someone who no one's ever seemed to have appreciated what I've done, I'm the exact. I yell too loud. You know, validate me coming soon. Validate me P. So as someone who, because you always, here's a major difference, though. You in real life have wielded power behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. which and and broadcasting was not like your first, it may have been the first thing you did because you were a DJ and a broadcaster, but it wasn't your first passion. So it was a little easier, I think, for you, and obviously we're different people also, but it's a little easier for you to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:45 let people sleep on me. I'm program director at hot. Let them sleep on me. I'm hanging out with Tim Apple. Whereas for me, I don't have those positions. I am a broadcaster first and foremost. So like I do get a little, when the people don't show the respect
Starting point is 00:05:59 to the things that I've worked hard to accomplish, I'm a little bit more desperate. And then I also have a deep validation problem. The combination of those two things. File that under the difference between how black people feel about things and how Jewish people feel about things. You think it's that simple? I mean, kind of. But your energy is giving rich Jewish person who wears sweatpants when they go out because they're like, I don't need you to know what I do because I have seven million at home.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But that's what I'm saying. It is exactly that. It's exactly like I don't have anything to put. prove I know my value and I mean so I'm in the black position you're the that's what I'm saying got it like it's a it's a file that under that's how many people feel who have contributed things and constantly are being told your contribution can be erased uh doesn't mean anything is not taught is not this is not that and everybody's like what how can you even say you see what I've done you see all this we need a black history month we need a this you're going to see all the work that
Starting point is 00:06:59 I've done because you guys refuse to acknowledge me on the other side, right? You have a group of people that are like, why are you so worried about acknowledgement? Right. In fact, we don't want to be noticed too much because when people talk about it's too much bad stuff starts saying. Matter of fact, we're like when people tell us how much power we have, we go, you're anti-Semitic. And by the way, don't say it again because otherwise we're going to show you how much power we have. Wait, what? I can't, I need questions. Wait, what? Who's Diana? Rossini. One of the best starts
Starting point is 00:07:32 to the show we've ever had. All right. So, Lori, you know anything about the Diana Rossini? No, no, no. I just saw what, you know, like in our group chat, you guys brought it up.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Can you break it down for me? Okay, so the show, so we're a little bit late to this, but it's kind of good timing because this week it all sort of fully came to a head. Don't, don't. Don't.
Starting point is 00:07:49 This is sports poaching chain? And wait, are you saying don't because you know this woman. No, I'm just saying don't because it's such an easy joke I said you have for. But I do know. There's a lot of joke. But I do know and care for her.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So do be mindful if that affects you. I do like Diana a lot. But if you didn't, then I would be. No, no. Okay. So, no. So, so Diana's a sports reporter.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Okay. But more specifically, like an insider. Okay. Like nose coaches, is at training camps, like break stories. She also is a commentator who will go on podcast. And she's a pretty fun-loving kind of sports reporter. She got personality. She's married.
Starting point is 00:08:25 A couple of weeks ago, the New York Post bought pictures and published them of her looking very friendly with the head coach of the Patriots Mike Vrable. The word is they were at an adults-only resort at a pool. None of the pictures were of them being physical. Right. But no, one like their hands were holding. And obviously people went crazy. and she said she put out a statement and said it was not what it looked like I think even her husband put out a statement and defended her um rable has said very little and the internet has gone absolutely crazy oh i see the photo okay
Starting point is 00:09:08 yeah um now in the internet's going crazy and and and really coming after diana um they also put together They're like they found all these videos of her doing podcasts and interviews that they saw as evidence, you know, that she's loose or whatever they're trying to say. I believe Bascom, who we know when there's filth on the internet. Oh, my man, Baskin with the filth, run it. Roll the clip. Diana Rusini said this. And I think we all do weird things when we're in love, and we overshare and overpost. And look, he's getting married to a beautiful actress.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm married to someone average. I don't post a lot about him. If I was married to someone beautiful, I'd propose too. You know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart my mom, so that's good. Oh, does she? Oh, yeah. You know what? I'm starting to think he's got a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And you know what? Good for him. What? He looks good. He's successful. His wife's never around. You love this football thing. That's why he looks good.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I think when men propose, that's their wedding day. Like, that's when you guys are all in. It's not really all in for us yet. I think for women, the actual wedding. getting day is the moment. So, I mean, Cap was all down for I was the one that was very skeptical. I was like, oh, I don't know. All the people in my life that I'm going to talk to the night before wedding. The one guy, my dad wanted me to, or my mom wanted me to marry was Jimmy Garoflo. And he's calling me. Like, this is a sign.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They have a Super Bowl. No, I did things in Miami. I haven't even told my husband because it's just, I had that much fun. It was not like that. I knew he would judge. He would judge the kind of partying I was doing. I don't know what got into me. I just remember being down there acting like it was my last. day on her. Well, I guess when it rains it pours because now tons of old videos are coming out of Diana Rossini. Well, simply put, just making a blow of her husband. All right. So while making an appearance on the Zolec and Her daughter's from Bercht. She's from Jersey. Her and her family's from Jersey. Okay. Well, it sounds like A, she's open to joke about the ups and downs of her
Starting point is 00:11:08 relationship, which is fine. Right. She was certainly. Yeah. And then this thing happens in the internet did what the internet does. Tide things together that may be related, but also may be unrelated. And now she has resigned from the athletic. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, she resigned over this? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why would you have to resign? So there's a statement.
Starting point is 00:11:30 She gave a statement in, first of all, her contract was up with the athletic in June. The athletic, to see you guys, if you don't know, has become, it is the sports section of the New York Times. They merged. The athletic is the New York Time. Okay. So very serious, it's a very serious outlet, right? And her deal was up in June, and this whole thing kept going. And it sounded like the statement that the athletic gave made it kind of feel like they were looking in to see if there's more things.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I think the idea here is the reason this is so problematic is she's a reporter. She covers the guy she was with. She's a source. She uses people a source. and gets real information to break stories so that you would be compromised as a reporter if you're sleeping with people. The problem is this.
Starting point is 00:12:26 The reason this whole thing is in its nature very sexist, and I do not expect any dumb average man to get this because you're just going to yell cuck and snowflake. Is that these relationships are compromised for men too. It just doesn't involve anything seemingly sexual or intimate. A reporter came out, a really respected football reporter came out and said, and he was defending Diana. He was like,
Starting point is 00:12:49 I've been in situations where I'm hanging with a coach and he's like, I go to the hotel. I meet with him at the hotel. He'll say, yo, you want to go hang at the pool. I hang with him at the pool.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yo, you want to do a sauna. I've done a sauna with like, but it's men. So the men hang out, smoke a cigar, do all the things. Go to the strip club. It's all part of the camaraderie that you can have.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Is that any more problematic than being physically intimate with someone? I don't know. It all seems sort of, you know, somewhat problematic. I mean, physically intimate in our society is going to take people. Well, it did. So people like really, the part that's bothered me
Starting point is 00:13:30 is obviously she effed up, but the way they're coming for is just crazy. Go ahead, Lord. So from what I saw, right, the pictures, did she come out and admit that she had an actual affair? No, no, no, no, no. So is just these pictures and this montage of, like, sound bites that people put together?
Starting point is 00:13:46 So there's no actual affair. No concrete evidence of an affair. No concrete. No spouse has come out. Other things kind of leaked through there that the people reminded them of when she was in Washington and the old Redskins GM's wife had tweeted things about her making it sound like she was a homewrecker, like there was some older stuff out there. So these things existed.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But to answer your question, no, there has been nothing firm at this point that, you know for a fact there's an affair. And also my question is, is anyone going to, if this is a problem, will the league punish Mike Rayble at all? Like I get it. The onus isn't on him. He's not the reporter. He's the coach.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But it's still got to be unethical. Right. Right. Because it's just this whole thing. Is it unethical? Because he's going to be like it's not unethical because nothing happened. Well, no. And I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 If that's the story and they're sticking to it, I'm fine with it. Is it unethical for a coach to stup a journalist, have sex with a journalist? or is it only unethical for a journalist to have sex with the coaches? And I'm literally asking because I would think that, yeah, I boned a journalist. Drop, please. I need to save that basket and send it to me. On the other side where you're trying to be taken seriously and your professionalism is tied to... Well, and the credibility of the stories.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Right. Because the coach, my professionalism is tied to how I conduct myself, you know, on and off the field for sure. but mostly to how I'm conducting myself in representation of the team in public and winning game. But why even, let's suppose it's true. Why, and I'm asking honestly, why is she inherently compromised as a reporter? Well, no, I think she's not. I think the people she works for think it's a representation of their entire organization. I get it.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But at the same time, there's no concrete evidence that it happened. But that's the second piece. The first piece, if it did really happen, the New York Times, who doesn't want any smoke, especially like this, where it's like, yeah, the journalists at work here are having sex with, you know, sports coaches. Right. They don't want that smoke because it makes them look unprofessional.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah. But the second piece is, for Diana Rossini, for her to resign and not be like, nothing, wait, what? No, absolutely not. There had to be a conversation for her to resign. I agree. There has to be something here as to why she would resign
Starting point is 00:16:32 because if it were unequivocally not true and in some way you could explain it and there was nothing else there. Yeah. I feel like you'd fight it more. I'll say this. It's not a great look. I'm going to definitely go on the record and step all the way out here.
Starting point is 00:16:46 because that's how I do on a Thursday and say it's not what you want. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. No, I'm here to hit a buck. No, it's not what you want. I will also say in the long run, I hope Diana is okay. She's going to be very all right.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I do not think she will be an NFL insider anymore. I think that this role as a reporter is probably going to come to the end. But you could be our NFL insider. Here's up. Yo, but she, no, she will. That's what I'm saying, though. She's going to now, she'll find her way. She's a really entertaining commentator who knows a ton about sports.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And one day you'll be able to laugh about this whole thing. We need somebody that knows a ton about sports. Because this guy ain't cutting it. Facts. Diana, what's popping? Listen, our budget is a little shoe string. Diana, let's, yeah, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Easy.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Take your time. Listen, you're working a way back. Whoa. Yeah, no, hopefully you look at some point should be able to crack a smile about this. And manage. And you're just weird. The anger from men online. No, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And there's another weird part. Can I just, since we're on ELR, I can speak honestly. Like, Diana's kind of hot. She's got like a dope body. And people always have known that about her. Like their pictures are, you'll, if prior to this, if you looked up her name on Twitter, what you'd see, Lou, I'm not speaking out of school, right? Would probably be pictures in her wearing outfits and be like, oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And I feel like, because men are weird, that factors into their obsession. and anger with these stories. Sometimes the attractiveness of the person actually gets these weird incels more angry. So one of the things that I saw, one of the things that I saw I found interesting was that I saw men angry that she was speaking about her husband that way
Starting point is 00:18:33 with other men. So that's just how this even came across my timeline where men was like, yo, who's her dude that she's just talking like this? with other dudes publicly about their relationship. She called him average. She called, you know what I mean? Like those things.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I saw a dude angry about that. By the way, I still think you're weird for worrying about, like thinking of it that way. It's weird to me. But because in their world, they don't know a man who's comfortable enough for their wife to joke like that. Because if she really thought he was that average, right?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Right. Would she really be talking about him at all? But she did say that's why I don't post him because he's average. Right. But she could also be joking. I don't know if he's averaging him. No, meaning. I don't know if he jokes about me.
Starting point is 00:19:21 No, I think about I've seen him. He's a pretty good looking guy. And that's the other joke is about what she was saying. Her mom makes fun of her like he's going to leave you. You're always out with the football. He's a good looking guy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Listen, that she's an entertaining, honest, open person.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It just gets back to the double standard. It's always a double standard. The chauvinism here is outstanding. No, America's going to America in this way. No, no, no. Because for a woman, for a woman to be able to joke around with the dudes about partying and drinking and hanging out. And to be an NFL insider, to be able to just hang out and pal around with jocks, basically, right? People are already going to make judgments.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Like what's she doing and how come she's cool? Right? By the way. So, right? So for her to even exist in that space. And we don't even know like maybe her and her man did break up. Maybe. Well, that's the part I was wondering about.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I'm like, you don't know if they have an open relationship. We know nothing. We know nothing. We know nothing. What if they've, what if they have kids? What if they already decided like, hey, we had kids. We're going to go through the motions here. But we don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And everyone's making all of these assumptions. and like meanwhile, it's always the same thing. They're basically, by not saying anything, men are basically quietly high-fiving Vrable. If we're being honest, it's like, nah, bro, but you, nah. But she makes all women reporters look bad though. She did something bad for all women. Why is it men never represent all men?
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's crazy. I could have sworn you were going to show me pictures of them, like, caught in bed or something wild. I swore this was like confirmed. No, they were laying on a joining, beach chairs in a pool. Bascom, was that the main thing? Like in a pool, but like in a
Starting point is 00:21:18 shallow part of the pool where the chairs are sitting in it. Okay. And there's one other picture where their hands are kind of out extended but they could be joking around. You don't know. It's not closely into me. It's a public place or a private place? It was at a resort. But I'm saying, if you were obviously, the guy sold. So that's peculiar to me
Starting point is 00:21:36 because if they were really concerned about public opinion, guess what they wouldn't be doing? I know that part is weird, right? Like, why would you go to a resort period of any sort? And who's the person... Who's the person who's chasing down Mike Vrable to sell photos? Oh, bro. It could be someone at the resort, but like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 ooh, I know who that is. You know what I mean? I mean, they did have a... Last year, they had a good run, but, you know... No, that's true. And by the way, that's why you know... And you know, the Patriots can't say anything because you know who their owner is.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, Kraft better not say nothing. You know, Kraft can't say anything when he was out here getting... Mm-hmm. ...down there at the Florida. handy handy shot. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Welcome to the handy shop. I used to get this with my ex being a sports reporter. People already act crazy. Oh, your wife's just in the locker room, blah, blah, blah. In fact, it was one of the biggest miscues. I don't want to bring them up again because I don't want our audience to get upset with me. When there was a certain unnamed internet personality who would attack me and made up the
Starting point is 00:22:35 story of the affair that ended my marriage and said that my wife was with a, my ex was with a W.W.E. cameraman. I'm like, she would never meet a W.W. Camper. Why didn't you just say it was a baseball player? She covered baseball. But that was the thing all the time. And by the way, women, you know, she had stories of men doing the weirdest thing
Starting point is 00:22:58 when you're on that, taking pictures of her, coming up to her and showing pictures of her. Well, remember the Aaron Andrews story. Oh, boy. Well, that was straight peeping Tom status. You know this story? No. You don't even know who Aaron Andrews is.
Starting point is 00:23:08 No, no, no. But anyway, she's been a sports reporter, sideline reporter, she's been at the desk. She's a legend now. She's a legend now. But when she first came up, people were so enamored by her beauty and her, even her abilities that she had straight stalkers who were like looking through her hotel room door. I was like, how did you even do that?
Starting point is 00:23:27 No, it was crazy. Then I cut a hole in it. It was some crazy. That's scary. So I just, I guess I'm very close. I realize now one of the reasons I feel so strongly is, A, Diane and I got to ESPN around the same time, and I'm a fan of hers. She was a fan of ours.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I just like her. And B, yeah, I was very close to the female sports reporter thing for a long time. And I've seen how much... And then to see this happen and you all just... Why do you get so giddy on crushing her?
Starting point is 00:23:53 It's just weird behavior. It is. It's the same thing we were talking about with snow the product the other day. I don't understand dudes who get mad at lesbians and I don't understand why dudes get so mad when chicks hook up with someone else.
Starting point is 00:24:03 She wasn't going to hook up with you anyway. You're worried about her husband? I mean, respectfully. I don't know her husband. But guys just obsess about the stuff. It's strange to me. Well, no, it's called chauvinism. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:15 That's what it is. Whatever snowflake. Whatever is it is. Dave Chappelle out here talking to NPR. Reson, we have a small clip. The first time I can remember doing a big show in the Middle East, right before I went on stage, they gave me a list of all the things I wasn't supposed to address. It was like right before I went on stage.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So I took the list on stage. And that was the show. I just did the list. Don't talk about the real families. That's y'all and not just made fun. And they were screaming. Screaming. And that was in Dubai. Man, in Riyadh,
Starting point is 00:24:56 that crowd, watching that comedy, the first time the government let them even see something like this, it was like a baby tasting sugar. If I had choked a tiger out, they couldn't have been more impressed. They were screaming. U.S. intelligence did make it clear that they believe that the Saudis killed
Starting point is 00:25:16 Jamal Khashoggi and the embassy in Turkey. You knew that when you went, right? Oh, absolutely. Now, I should tell you. You had no qualms? I won't say that. They asked me to go years before that. And I said no, for that very reason.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Since that time, the United States government does business with the Saudis. Netflix does business with the Saudis. Everyone, they've Saudis financed tons of movies. All these. I know I see them financing boxing matches and all these things. And none of these things were an issue until
Starting point is 00:25:46 I went there. And why is that? As soon as a black man can make money off the plantation, they try to tell you that the money is dirty. Well, okay, I'll go home and spend the money with actual slave owners on it. Shout to Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Dave, they absolutely made a dust up about Live Golf. That was a big thing, which, by the way, didn't stop a lot of people from going over to Saudi Arabia and making boatloads of cash. The comedian most written, how long ago did Dave just go? Last year? Was it last year?
Starting point is 00:26:22 Has it been a year? Has it been since last year? Where he went to Saudi Arabia? But there was a lot of other comedians that went also. Correct? Oh, yeah. Bandy, they had a whole festival. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:31 And so it's interesting that Dave's the one that Connick is getting, but he's the big name. So that's what happens when you're the big name. Um, our country that we live in, the United States of America, I'll never forget. I was shocked the day it happened. Uh, and the many times that I've actually been shocked by Donald Trump, which there's been many, but not as much as you think. Was the day after or the weeks after Jamal Khashoggi got chopped up in an embassy. And Donald Trump was basically like, all right, they buy a lot of weapons from us, guys. We're going to sell weapons to them.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I remember we're gonna make money. I forgot, but I remember now. And like, was basically like, get over it. We're gonna sell these airplanes and missiles and bombs. He went full bagel boss? Get over it. Okay, get over it. We need that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You know, and look, people who live in Saudi Arabia, just like us who live here in the United States of America, we would love to believe that we have control of, our government. Do you feel like right now we actually have control over our government? No. No, I don't. So what do you think people in
Starting point is 00:27:50 Saudi Arabia who want to just live life, go to the movies, drive a car? So are you mad that Dave Chappelle went to entertain the people? Well, but he got the money from the government. He got the money from the government, but he still goes to entertain the people. Well, that's the part. Listen, and when I went with WWE last time, like I had such a wonderful experience with the people.
Starting point is 00:28:10 You know what I mean? And like, I obviously there are people like, oh my God, you went to Saudi Arabia. And I'm like, listen, I understand why everyone has the feelings they do. And I get it. I do. A, I don't know what position as Americans were really in right now to go morally judging the rest of the world. Sorry. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And also for me personally, I think it was a pretty amazing experience to be in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and have these wrestling fans chanting Roseberg. Like with the whole experience of it Seeing me as a Jewish American guy With these Saudi Arabian people who have been only shown one thing for so long And to just like see like oh no people are just good Generally people are just good And like we're sold this bill of bullish here in the United States
Starting point is 00:28:57 And have been for generations That around the world It's people that have a problem with us That's not true It's government positioning it's government psychos religious psychos who are in government it's not the populations of these countries and so yes the governments are in control and yes you could be mad at somebody for taking the money but the nation you live in is taking the money we are funding genocide right and by the
Starting point is 00:29:29 way Saudi Arabia is dropping bombs on Yemen there was famine in Yemen people by the millions were starving over the last few years with bombs sold to Saudi from us planes sold to Saudi from us attacking the Yemeni people Israel attacking the Palestinian people attacking Lebanese people with our money but Dave can't go crack jokes it was his point is well taken it's a it's a it's a really crazy double standard You know, the comedians caught it, but none of the huge business, because it's easier for people to put a label on all the comedians' names who went, as opposed to, we don't, guys, let's be realistic.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Are any of the three of us paying attention to which Hollywood studios are getting Saudi money? No, no. None of us, no. But they, but trust me, I talked to Dipristine about this. It's happening. There's Saudi money all over Hollywood. They want to make movies. They want to westernize.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Well, yeah, because they realize that the oil thing has a, has an expiration date on it. So now they got to get into other things like tourism and expanding what they invest in the assets and the things that they own around the world. But here's the complicated part. Get ready. We need an alert.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I would like this for the show. Can we get a nuanced thought alert that we put up here? Because it's hard for people. Nuisance. No, we'll have to work on it. Like a thing that comes on the screen. Yeah, nuanced thought.
Starting point is 00:30:59 This is tough. What about a... I don't know if it works. That's kind of celebratory, but nuanced thought is celebrating. You should be celebrated. By places like Saudi Arabia attempting to westernize and do things like bring WWE and boxing and all of these things.
Starting point is 00:31:18 While there's legitimate grounds to be angry and concerned about that, you also realize the westernizing of those places is fundamentally going to be good for the people who live there, right? Like the being exposed to so many things is going to, women's rights are. literally opening as tourism expands there women's rights are naturally expanding there it's going to have to it has to because they want people to come so like it's a complicated thought what yes and i mean it's not going to be instant no no no but it would be like assuming it would be like assuming because barraq obama was president things really got dramatically better
Starting point is 00:32:02 Didn't say dramatically. Didn't say dramatically. Or got better at all for black people. But that's not the same thing. Because laws are actually, they're actually being forced to change. Like they are, I'm not saying this. No, laws have been forced to change here too. But not because Barack Obama became president.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No, but just because black people far for it. In fact, the only law that changed since then is white, racism is now legal. Racism is now open racism. They got rid of DEI. I'm oversimplifying. Yes, things could get slightly better for them. But that's not necessarily true. Like when you go to Dubai, there are things that tourists can do that people who are citizens of
Starting point is 00:32:32 the Emirates cannot do. When you go to, there are things that, like, when you go to countries, they'll, you know, in the, there's Caribbean countries who have casinos. Locals can't go to the casino. Right, right. But is it is, is the idea, I guess this is a deeper question that probably goes beyond any of our knowledge. And we need like a sociologist or something.
Starting point is 00:32:50 But I wonder if by the exposure to different things on its own, that is fundamentally a really great thing for people who have been in a closed-off regime. And all I'm saying is, it could be in some ways. but to assume that it's going to be. What I'm saying is, I believe my being in Saudi Arabia changed the life of millions. And what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:33:11 that's what I'm saying. But shout to Chappelle, I think it's a great conversation. Speaking of a great conversation, I reached out to Dr. Abdul-El-Said, who's running for Senate in the state of Michigan. He's born and raised in Michigan,
Starting point is 00:33:25 and I learned about him because I've been following Hassan Piker for, I don't know how long since. maybe maybe since like he had like a half a million followers like I remember that long I've been I have to look up but I've been following him a long time just because I was like oh this guy's interesting a he looks white and his name's Hassan and he was talking about like real progressive things I was like oh it's a streamer oh this is interesting now I have to admit a lot of his content never came up on my algorithm and it wasn't until recently that I even heard about like the october
Starting point is 00:33:55 7th blowback of him being like Hamas all day and people being, you know, in a tizzy about it and we're going to talk about that in a minute. But anyway, I reached out to Dr. Abdul-Salai, who was campaigning with Hassan Piker. Okay. Which I found interesting also. Okay. Well, Piker's been
Starting point is 00:34:13 jumping on board with super progressive candidates to help push for them. Got it. And so one of the reporters was trying to grill Dr. El-Said about campaigning with Piker. And he was like, Like, why are you grilling? Why aren't we talking about the issues?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Piker has a huge audience of young people and is interested in what I'm interested in. But you wouldn't do this. You know, it was basically saying you're not grilling, you know, the Donald, the Joe Rogan's about Donald Trump's policy. You're not grilling. You know what I mean? And all of this other stuff. So boom. That's, so I reached out to him.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And then, Laura, how did you see this clip? Someone on Twitter tagged us. Here's Hassan Piker talking about it. Hassan Samma, please do the Ebro podcast when you're in New York City. Anytime, any day, baby. As long as he wants me there, I'll do it. And so that's Hassan saying he would come on our show. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:35:09 That's a big deal. Now, how do we take that next step, though? That's the part. Great question. Hassan, who do we? Yeah, now we have to book him for the show. He was just here. Now, you...
Starting point is 00:35:17 He did a lot of media last week. Oh, he was just in New York. He did a bunch. He did... I saw multiple places. New York... Maybe New York Times. NPR, like he was all over the place.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Okay. He's been doing more mainstream media. What is your impression of what I'm like? So it's a mixed bags. Mostly I think good. I, but before people freak out because he's a very divisive person in that way, I don't know all of the extreme
Starting point is 00:35:45 things that he said. And I know that he has sort of evolved as a human being publicly in front of like, Sorry, let me rephrase that. He has sort of become who he is, his character, in front of the world. Streaming, I think, like 10,000 hours. He has been in front of a camera endlessly for you.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So he's one of the people that maybe did some things that would rub people the wrong way, but then learned by being live and whatever. I believe so. He is extremely anti-Israel. And, you know, it's popular now. Which, by the way, that is not some rogue position, just so everybody knows. But he has, I believe, said things that were like veered into anti-Semitism and a little bit dangerous or very dangerous. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:37 But I just know there's things that he's gotten people mad about. That being said, there's a certain segment of the population, the pro-Israel crowd, that makes everybody who's ever said everything seem like raging anti-Semites. So I don't know how true that is. But I do know there's definitely been some questionable stuff. And I also know he said some really great stuff. And he's poised to become, or maybe already is, the left-wing Joe Rogan that everyone was dreaming about. Like, oh, can we- Interesting. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:37:09 The left-wing Joe Rogan, if that's what everybody wanted, you know what you're going to get? The left-wing Joe Rogan. Right. So Joe Rogan is not going to be a perfect, Joe Rogan's not a perfect vehicle for anyone. He's a mixed bag. By the way, sometimes I like things Joe Rogan says, which means there must be times that people on the right hate what he has to say. So it's the same thing with Hassan Piker.
Starting point is 00:37:31 He's got some stuff that's good. He's got some stuff that's been troubling. But I think he's been evolving in front of the camera. I'd be very interested to talk to him, though, for sure. I'm going to check out his stuff. I'm not too familiar with him. I just learned about him a couple weeks ago. I think from you.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. Well, he's blown up recently. Yeah. He's gone from like, you know, only a certain sect of young people know him to like everybody knows it. On Instagram, can you figure out how long you've been following to my? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:59 You can sort through who you followed by date, I believe. But with the way you follow, I mean, good luck. Good luck, right? So what, you go into your following? Yeah. And now can you search through it? Does it have a sort option?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Nah, nothing's coming up. But you won't tell you the exact date. No, you won't get the date. No, you won't get the same. at the date. Year? It's just an order. So no.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So you won't know. But you've been down from day one from Hassan Pike. Although you didn't really know everything he said. Yeah, because I, you followed him but didn't pay that much attention. I mean, like you just said a second ago. I follow people. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Doesn't mean I'm, you know, tuned all right. And the way the algorithm works, I follow people that I forgot I followed because they never show up on my feet. Like, I never see any of their content. I'm like, oh, yeah, I do follow this person. What happened? Do you know, speaking of the subject? Did you know, you bro, that my dad reached out to Laura this week.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Nice. How did you do it? He was so sweet. He emailed her. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said he was writing her because he wanted her to sign up for his substack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And he never wrote me, but I'm already signed up. You already followed it. It's a substack. I'm going to try to. I want to email anyway, MJ, don't be like that. No, you said, you sent me something you wanted to ask him about. I think maybe next week should be the week we try to get him on for Patreon. Maybe we try to get them on Riverside.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah. But definitely, let's definitely do it for Patreon. Nice and taped. You know what I mean? me to tell you what he said. Go ahead. He said, hi, Laura. You were great yesterday on Israel.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Peter, meh. You're paying attention. Do you get my substack, if not allowed you? P.S., I love the new show. You and Peter have a great dynamic. Keep him in line. If left unchecked, he can, he has ebro-maniac potential. And I love E-Bro too, but sometimes he's too, Ebro-esque.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I love him. So I have, I also have Ebro-Mania. Maniac potential. So my, but why I spoke to my dad the other day, I know why the reason he reached out was is he was hitting me up about the conversation you and I had. Yes, the idea of conversation. About the lady who was going after the IDF soldiers, which I, which a bunch of people responded to. And what was the response you got?
Starting point is 00:40:02 I don't, I still didn't see the clip, didn't hear what you said and I know nothing. It's a clip you sent about a woman. I still haven't seen it though. I didn't, I didn't see it. He told me that was, I guess, walked up to a pair of young teens. No, there weren't teens. They were, they were like 20-something. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:17 that somehow she realized or found out or guessed accurately, seemingly, that they were IDF soldiers. And it was her screaming baby killer stuff at them. And at the end, after she'd gone at them for a while, and they were sort of like, oh, what are they talking about? Which, by the way, the way they carry themselves, I did quickly figure out they were definitely Israeli. That part was definitely on the nose.
Starting point is 00:40:37 But then at some point by the end, when she's like walking with, they're like, oh, we do it again or something like that. And so people like, oh. But I don't know. at that point in watching the video from my standpoint, they'd been getting yelled at for a good five minutes on camera. I'm not sure that, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:54 even under the best of circumstances, someone will be happy. I am not and never will be caping for IDF soldiers. Oh, people quickly were like... Oh, I didn't know. You caping for the IDF, wasn't in my bingo card, Rosenberg?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Well, it shouldn't be. His whole thing is like, you can't automatically hate people because they're in the IDF because in Israel, you automatically have to get signed up. Bro, you couldn't automate. How about this?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Will this help you? You can't automatically hate a German soldier from the 1940s and know for a fact that they were thrilled to be acting out what Hitler wanted. You can't know. I think their response. No, I know that's hard. I struggle with that. I get it.
Starting point is 00:41:34 It's hard for people, but also under duress of a woman yelling at you and calling you baby killer and you're an IDF soldier. And your response to that woman isn't some form of de-escalation or something. Well, they sat there for a while. I mean, for a while, they're just sitting there smoking cigarettes. I'll do it again. It's a lot. And so they need to be.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I'll do it again is foul. I, by the way, I'm paraphr. I don't know it was exactly that. But the video goes on for like four or five minutes and they're just sitting there like, what, what, what? And then at the end, as she's walking away, that's like sort of the big. My point wasn't about them. I don't, as I said to Laura the other day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Am I interested right now? Well, it sounds like this, though. Congratulations. No, hold on. I'm getting there. Yeah, sure. It sounds like this. No, because, no, you know why it's that?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Because trying to wade into conversations like this is pointless. Me trying to be like, hey, I think we should be a little bit. I think even those of us who are vehemently anti-Israel should not at this moment go screaming at people on the street. I think we're adding to the algorithm of nastiness. I don't think we're doing the best thing for the, that's all I was saying. So my dad watched it. He didn't necessarily, he agreed with some things I said.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, he thought the video was gross also. But he's also like, but why are you bothering? doing that there's no point. But what he was taken by, I think, from the conversation was that Laura, who has been introduced to this issue over the last couple of years, but it's hardly a part of her, like, long-term life. He saw her as an interesting case in how much Israel's horrible behavior has turned people to a point that, like, can't even be explained. Like, it was hard for me to convey to Laura what I was saying. Laura is someone who, On the surface, the idea of yelling at some stranger on the street would objectively be a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But Israel's been so abhorrent in how they've just committed genocide in the Middle East and killed Palestinians. That she couldn't even really, it's hard to even have a moment of like understanding. But that's what most people, that's why you got blowback. It's because they don't even know how they hear the letters IDF and go, yes, be nice. Don't yell at them. They don't even know how you know. Because I met Israeli people. that I love it and I've had great conversations with them.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Remember I told you there was that young man at the restaurant who came out to his Israeli, he watches our show and he's like, thank you for the conversation, you know? But then I, you know, I automatically think in my shoes, right? How do I feel about ice? I'm sure there's quote unquote decent people in ice as people say, but to me, you all are the same. That's how I see it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 When I see a person, if I know that you work for ice, I judge you. Ice is interesting, but ice is different. Isis I saw come up. and signed up to get paid. Yeah, to do what? No, no, exactly. You know what I'm saying? But like, it was literally,
Starting point is 00:44:18 huh, hiring people for ICE, huh? Beep, beep, beep. Yes, you don't have to join the IDF in theory. I don't think you'll go to jail, but it's a big to do to not join the IDF when you turn 18 years old. Can you opt out? You can opt out, but it's not like societally acceptable,
Starting point is 00:44:34 except, of course, if you're a right-wing fanatic who's a settler in the West Bank, then you don't have to do anything somehow. Wait, what? Oh, yeah, the orthodox, like get an exemption somehow. The settlers somehow all get an exemption. They don't go fight.
Starting point is 00:44:47 They don't go fight. And that's another part you have to understand. Like, Israel is a place that has people of all varieties. Including some people who aren't well to do and just have to go fight because that's, and it doesn't mean that they're sitting there making videos of trying to pick off Palestinian children. But we've seen those videos happening. So I understand why people would be like, hey, you see them and you yell baby killer.
Starting point is 00:45:10 My point was, I just don't think that makes it. where we want to go as a society. But people are angry. And people are angry and not getting results. And Israel's... And they're paying for it. And they're paying for it. And babies are being killed and more people are being displaced.
Starting point is 00:45:29 All in the name of what exactly and what is going on and no one is stopping this. So the regular person just has to take the high road? No, I'm not asking for high. No, but you know what I'm saying? Some people just can't, they're, they're. I'm just not cheering or decorum, that, that being the way that we operate. I don't think it's a cheer. I think it's a.
Starting point is 00:45:50 No, but it's being cheap, like it is being cheered though. And if you know, I'm not saying for you, I'm not saying for other people, yes, people are going to cheer. Then there's going to be people who like yourself are going to be like, yeah, I don't love this. I don't, I don't like us going down this path. But it's the same reason people email up here and they go with you. You're the only Jewish person they know. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And they're angry. Yeah. And I, I, I don't know how to. respond to people being not being able to process these differences. I don't and I and I don't think you need to I don't but I also don't have empathy for them because it's been that's basic that's basic I don't but I'm just saying that but and I'm not saying that they're right I'm just saying it's real I'm not saying it's right but what I'm saying it's right but what I'm saying it I do want to say though and this is coming from me I've had arguments with people because I
Starting point is 00:46:37 always say you know the people is not the government look at our country it's so divided and I've seen Very few, but I also know that there's this whole propaganda machine that's up against, you know, any critique of Israel. But I know that there's plenty of people who are against it. Not enough, by the way. I want to be clear, not enough because they have really, they have turned a lot of the Israel. Listen, October 7th, if you believe what we tend to believe about October 7th, it was masterful in terms of really getting the public to galvanize on behalf of Israel being this violent regime that they're now behaving like. It worked. But yes, of course, there's a large part of the population that's against it.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And there's people in the government in Israel who want to come for Netanyahu. And there's families who want to sue Netanyahu and have him put in jail for... But my dad reposting... Constructing October 7th. I just want to make sure that people don't think, if you're new to this, I'm not here saying I hate anyone who's Israeli. No, no. But by the way, but so here's the other part that people have to understand. To me, the difference is when you get comfortable with someone is of this place or they served in that military,
Starting point is 00:47:42 I think it's cool. Let's attack them. Like, I think that's cool. The distance from that to that person's Israeli, that's not a big gap. It's not. And my daughter has that in her DNA. Like, I can't be okay with, my daughter will be raised as a pacifist
Starting point is 00:48:04 who despises the government of BB Netanyahu and what the Israeli governments become. And it saddens me that probably will never be able to go have any, you know, real knowledge of her family that's there and stuff like that. But the idea that she could be picked on because she's related to it, that's selfishly, that is a scary thought for me. I understand why people don't want to spend their time thinking about that. And I just have news for you guys.
Starting point is 00:48:30 The tears and time that I've spent on this issue is watching video after video also and listening to story and reading, in Ha Aretz, story after story, about the brutality done to Palestinian people. And seeing babies, these Palestinian babies, who look like my daughter. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, so just because I bring it up in the context here
Starting point is 00:48:55 because it is my way and it's a stupid way to have challenging conversations, turning around, just being up, caping for blah, blah, blah, it's just the most basic way of thinking. But it was a long way of saying, my dad was just interested in Laura's response because my dad, you know, was just like, damn Israel, they have lost the plots.
Starting point is 00:49:12 so badly. It's just so lost. They can't, I don't know that there's a way it could ever be fixed at this point. The level, like you talked about Trump better go to jail and have to lose lots of money or America's a joke. What does Israel have to do post this to have anyone take them as a real place again? That's not so. A real democracy with a two-state solution and a lot. and complete new leadership and equal rights for all Palestinians and ownership. And how about this? And we need the museum. You're going to have to have the museums in Israel. You know what I'm saying? Like...
Starting point is 00:49:48 Just like Germany did it. Just like Germany did it. Just like America has slowly not done it as well. I told you Germany's the best at it. There's no question about it. You mean America hasn't done what? Owned their ish. Oh no. But we got Holocaust museums everywhere. Well it's easy. We didn't do the Holocaust. Exactly. It's mad Holocaust. The end of the Holocaust Museum is the U.S. comes in as the hero.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. So make those museums all day. But the Native American Museum, that one took forever yeah and and where is it and and and and and the black history museum constantly the museum of african-american music of history which is beautiful and amazing it's amazing trying to unfund that they're trying to unfund and by the way there's no history of american slave the enslaved people of america's museum that we need that what about literally the history of enslaved americans there's a lynching museum down to alabama by the way doesn't sound like a great time that sounds like one of my parents vacation my parents be like oh we're going
Starting point is 00:50:42 a trip this week. I'm like, oh, fun, what are you doing? We're going to the lynching museum. I'm like, this is vacation. This sounds like a school trip. Well, they do the work. Yeah. No, they do the, they do the work. Where is that? I think it's in Alabama. Can you look that up for me, Lou? In other words, what you want to say is, I know it's in one of them state. Yeah. Alabama is, but I, but I don't, I mean, I believe that the state of Alabama put some funds towards it, but I don't know the backstory, complete backstory. Got it, got it. But all of, listen. We went in. No, no, no, no. I didn't want to go. I did. I just, I just, I just, I just wanted to say for everybody watching that what what Rosenberg is trying to articulate is admirable.
Starting point is 00:51:21 But the truth is people are upset and somebody's going to feel the brunt of that. And they can't get to BB Netanyahu. But that's so you realize how dangerous what you're saying is though? No, but. And that's just me pushing back against the algorithm making people view it that way. Like, oh, well, someone's going to get some get back for this. That is like. I'm just telling you how people are.
Starting point is 00:51:39 But that's why we do need some voices to push back. They burnt down black cities over this. Right. Like, it's always been a problem. But this is what happens when elites and billionaires want to keep us angry. Because we don't get out and vote and put in people who want to find solutions and want to have conversations. This is what happens. And that, yeah, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And people don't want to go to the Lynch Museum in Alabama and actually feel that pain so that the day they're confronted with some real Pac-Man mentality of doing harm to someone because of whatever their DNA is or ethnicity is that they think twice. And like a Laura Stiles goes, yeah, but how would I actually feel and empathize? Right. Because if you're not out here practicing empathy, you and I have a friend in common. I think Laura may know her. I don't know. But anyways, I follow, I have to admit, I sort of hate follow her stories these days because she's Israeli and I'm amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And she's always been a lovely person, but I have been amazed at how tone-deaf her stories have been. In terms of, not in terms of them being in any way anti-Palestinian, but just like this, oh my God, support Israel, look at this, look at this, without any mention of anything else. I'm not going to say it right now. But, however, she put up one the other day of there was some sort of anti-Semitic attack in Germany. A restaurant was blown up or something.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Something bad. Wow. And her like, she reposted the article and just wrote like WTF. And like that pissed me off so bad. Because like, of course it's upsetting. That's terrible that there was an anti-Semitic attack and people were either harmed or could have been harmed. It's horrible. But you just writing WTF, what the F?
Starting point is 00:53:34 No, we know the F. It doesn't make it okay. But don't just write WTF. People on your behalf. are doing the things that are leading to this happening. And you're just going, WTF. No, it's Israel. They are, people are responding.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And they intentionally wanted to blur this line of, of Jewish folks and Israel. So now we have things like that happening. Again, that doesn't make it okay. But you can't just go, I don't know what's going on here. I mean, people don't know what's going on here. You know why? Because they don't want to do the work. And it's not taught.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And it's not these conversations. And it's not fun. And it's not fun. And nobody, Even right now, while we're having this conversation, they would rather us be talking about the lowdown with Laura Stiles. Do we have? People in the chat are like, let's go.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know what I mean? They want us to go back to Diana Rossini and whatever shenanigans. That was good. That was good shenan. Her extramarial affairs. Alleged. A legend. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Laura got the run down. Turn that up. Screen's on glow when she pulls up. Oh, guys, I got to go. You got, you got a, I'm not, I got a hit. I have a sports center hit. I got to go. See?
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm sorry. I'm terrible. Laura, I don't mean to disrespect you by walking out. I love you all. And then I'm going to head off into WrestleMania. I did also want to give a shout out to my boy, Stinney Stein, who went into the Super Chat. I had missed Super Chat yesterday.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And he was showing us love. Stinney Stein. I played high school baseball with Mark. Stey Stine. Great guy, Mark Epstein, lovely man. And he had been a listener to me on sports radio, but is new to the ELR family. We turn that down here.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Sorry about that. It's okay. He's new to the ELR family, and he's listening every day now, and he showed us loving the super chat. So before I go, he gave an old friend money? Yo, my man just threw us 50 bones.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Dang. It would have been enough for me that he said he's a listener now. I would appreciate that, but he threw us some money, too. That's dope. So he thinks you're doing bad. He wanted to give you some money. Maybe he's friends with academics and Drake.
Starting point is 00:55:36 On that note, enjoy the weekend, y'all. Check me out on WrestleMania coverage on ESPN all weekend. Lowdown, Lars, excuse me, run down before the low. down before the guru. Well, this is a little a little bit of both, but Kanye West has more
Starting point is 00:55:49 drama overseas, Ibro. So I don't know if you saw that the French minister, Laurent Nunez, he basically came out and said that he was exploring legal avenues to stop him from performing at the Planned June show in Marseille.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Wow. So now it's canceled. Yeah, I mean look, Kanye West is not out of the deep water with this. He is And, you know, we've discussed it many times. We knew what could happen. He tried to apologize or he did apologize. Some people received it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Many did not. Right. And he's still seen as a very divisive character. And so now you got wireless dunzo. Yeah. You got this festival in France, dunzo. Yeah. Even here in the United States, when he did his show at SOFI, Live Nation and Aegee,
Starting point is 00:56:40 we're not there to support. So it's going to be interesting to see how. this plays out for Kanye was. He did go on Twitter to say, he said, after much thought and consideration, it is my sole decision to postpone my show in Marcy, France, until further notice. Then he said, I know it takes time to understand the sincerity of my commitment to make amends. I take full responsibility for what's mine, but I don't want to put my fans in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:57:03 My fans are everything to me. Looking forward to the next show, see you at the top of the globe. There it is. So it. Bro, this is the second time of standing in these flames. that Kanye's put himself in, that he's been contrite, say he's got more work to do,
Starting point is 00:57:20 said the right thing. Yeah. Let's see if this continues into the future. Because by the way, it doesn't look like he's going to get shows out the door this year in foreign country. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's going because where's he going? Right. Can Luke, can you Google if there's other shows that are scheduled for Kanye? Because he did Mexico City. I think that's it, right? That was before the end. album yes yes yes yes so we'll see but now um but now it's on people's radar i feel like
Starting point is 00:57:51 mexico mexico city happened and it wasn't really on people's radar like that right right yeah no other shows no other shows no other shows all right in other news the rmbb tour raymond and brown tour chris brown and usher the dates have just been released wait hang on griff griff just sent shows he says may 23rd new delft India. May 30, Istanbul, Turkey. June 6 and 8, the Netherlands. June 19, Poland.
Starting point is 00:58:24 July 18, Italy, July 23rd, Madrid, Spain, August 7, Portugal. You're not seeing those. Griff, you sure you got this right? Griff might be looking at 2016. All right. So, but as of right now, France, well, it sounds like he said he's pulling the plug on it. I did say that. Because of all the drama.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So the Usher and Chris Brown, the R&B tour is in full effect. Dates have dropped. The New York City dates are August 1st at the wireless JMA Wireless Dome in Syracuse, August 7th and 8th at MetLife. Also, speaking of shows, I want to shout out to Tank and my guy, Tyrese and Tank, they're at the UBS Arena this weekend here in the city. So it's like verses all over again at the UBS Arena. So I want to shout that out trying to get a conversation going with Tyrese while he's in town I don't know if tank's going to have time, but let's see let's see what happens. Do you see this? Wait, I know I was looking it up right now. Is this official?
Starting point is 00:59:24 This was being sent around. Okay. I don't, it says rumor. It's a rumor. What's the rumor? Drake planning to drop Iceman on May 3rd. It's a rumor, guys. It's a rumor. We know it was coming.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Sooner or later, he's been teasing it. Wasn't there like something he did at an NBA game? Yeah, two iced out seats. So, you know, maybe that's a part of this is all the rollout. Look, I'm here for Ice Man. I don't know about y'all. You know, look, I definitely want to move on from the battle. Hopefully that's not where Ice Man is at.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I hope he's back in his Drake bag, you know, doing what Drake does. Great songs. He always gives us great songs. Some sexy songs for you have fire on it. So I hope we back to the get down I want to hear some good music Yeah man Drake got bangers And summertime
Starting point is 01:00:17 I don't you know all his albums Don't come out in the summertime But you know He got good outside music man So yeah We're waiting for that Now we didn't really touch on this Ebro But did you see that offset shooting
Starting point is 01:00:28 Wait hold up Offset load down Lowdown let's go Let's go All right For the low down With lower All right
Starting point is 01:00:44 So offset shooting is no longer a local case in Florida. Now the FBI is involved. They're releasing a bunch of photos of suspects. Okay. And getaway vehicles, like video footage, like they have a lot. I don't know. I saw some of those photos and they were very clear.
Starting point is 01:01:01 So I'm sure any day now we're going to see some possible arrests. I have not seen these photos. I have talked to offset a few times via text. It's my guy. As you guys know, I apologize to him for thinking it was funny and
Starting point is 01:01:16 talking about money and all of that. But, yeah, man, I know he put out a new record. You know, he put out a record with the CEO of the Zeus Network. You saw that? I saw that. Where the baddies at? I know. I ignored it, but I saw it.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I saw it. Yeah. But now, look, he out here. Do you think Cardi B reached out to him? Yes. Did she say that she did? I'm pretty sure she did, bro. That's, yeah, she did.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah, she did. Yeah, that's the father of her children. And my second part of the question was, do you think that it's an opportunity for our offset to rekindle? I don't think so. Get back in good graces. I mean, the only thing that I would hope for is that that one day they can get to a place where they're cool with each other and they can co-parent. You don't think there'll ever be a thing. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't think Cardi will go back to that. Listen, you never know. It's Cardi, but I just don't think. I don't think she doesn't. Is it a real thing, Laura Stiles, that women, you know, if a man is willing to do the work and she sees, him doing the work of trying to improve and trying to be a good co-parent and trying to do all that.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And he's showing up and he's doing all the things that baby mamas will take the man back. I think it's a case-by-case basis, but I do know that was... Not even baby mamas, but wives. And did they ever officially get divorced?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yes. Still present? It's not official yet. I thought it was done. That we know of. Okay, okay. I know for a fact You could tell that Cardi loved that man
Starting point is 01:02:50 You could tell bro She loved that man She put up with a lot of ish from him So I think she's always gonna have love for him But I don't know if she's in love with him anymore I think she was finding like yo you embarrassed me enough I'm done Now she has a new baby by somebody else
Starting point is 01:03:06 I mean the last thing I saw was her leaving a party with Stefan Diggs So who knows As of April 2026 Cardi being offsetter in the process of divorcing It's the last report Yeah And you just saw her with Stefan Diggs when? Yeah, I think he showed up with his family
Starting point is 01:03:23 To one of her tour stops And then there was video footage of them like leaving together Got it So let's see All right More low Dan This video was interesting It's Jada Pinkett Smith
Starting point is 01:03:35 And this is a clip It was titled like Jada finally You know clears up why she cheated on Will With August Alcina Everything came out And I was like oh I got to take my myself to the table. Now, mind you, Will and I were not together.
Starting point is 01:03:51 We hadn't been together, 2016. And I decided I'm going to take myself to the table. Will says, I want to come to the table with you. And I was really surprised. And I was like, wow. He's like, I don't want you to be at the table by yourself. I want to support you. And so I was like, oh.
Starting point is 01:04:16 okay so he comes to the table and you know I try to just you know and this is a really complex moment we come to the table and Will's not ready he's not ready and he's not ready and he's kind of backtracking and he's going through this motion and I'm like shit known well excuse my language so I'm like well I'm going to speak my truth but I'm also gonna protect you so if I gotta look like the adulterist wife to make sure you're good I'm gonna do it y'all so and that wasn't the case but I wanted him to be okay now also in that moment two things as I'm moving forward I'm also moving backwards
Starting point is 01:05:26 because of what I realized at that moment I got in my martyrdom back and what that is for me is I hadn't quite learned how to love myself and not leave will on the side of the road and I hadn't learned how to love will and not leave myself on the side of the road and in that moment
Starting point is 01:05:54 in that moment because I felt so bad that he was in this situation. I decided I'm going to love you, Will, and I'm going to leave myself at the side of the road. Yo, man. I get what she's saying with regard to, like, I'm not trying to look like the adulterous wife, or, you know, I was willing to look like
Starting point is 01:06:23 because we weren't together anymore. Yes. That was the first thing she said. Yes. I get it. But Jada, like this has gone on for years now of you going out and, talking for your own benefit while Will it's been quiet.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So is it, are you really trying to help Will at all? Well, I'll tell you this. My issue with this and the way is the cheating part is not even a thing for me. Because we, there's always been speculation that they're separate. They have different lives. You know what I mean? It's the fact that it happened with your son's friend. That part.
Starting point is 01:07:03 It was August Alcina. who was in a very vulnerable position at the time. Going through some mental health stuff and went to stay with them for like health. It was heavy. And he was lashing out online. We all saw it. So to me,
Starting point is 01:07:17 it just felt very predatory. Like you took advantage of this young man who was probably looking for love and acceptance. And he was not emotionally stable. That's my issue with that whole, with the entanglement. Right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I forgot about the August out of scene point. Yeah, but I'm still stuck on like why why are you still talking about it? Why are we still covering this? I know A book Some books To sell books I mean
Starting point is 01:07:49 All right Why why are we Because you're not helping anybody Including yourself Do you think she's helping herself by doing that? No I don't think so I mean maybe at that moment those people who show up For what y'all need money
Starting point is 01:08:04 Then she need to go on validate me Rosenberg show Yes. All right. That's it for the lowdown. Wow. Outro or intro is the outro. It's time for the lowdown. Laura Stein. Yeah. Guru time, people. It's guru time.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Let's do it. Hey, yo, it's top of the gurus. Rosenberg. All right. You know you are a beautiful queen. Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. The original gurus at gmail.com. original gurus at gmail.com. That's where you find us,
Starting point is 01:08:48 your destination for clarity. Ebro, burn the sage. Ah, zen, zen, zen. All right. So those Yeezy dates we gave a little while ago, Griff is saying those were on his tour 26, tour.easy.com. Lewis is saying those were scheduled shows,
Starting point is 01:09:10 but we're taken down. But they're still active on his site. So he hasn't updated his site yet. They still might be active. All right. All right, let's go. Dear gurus, I met my DJ friend a few years ago. He used to host a local Latin night at this little club
Starting point is 01:09:28 in the downtown area, mostly regitone EDM stuff, a salsa song every once in a while. It died off. I chalked it up to like one of those things. So fast forward a few years, my buddy is now a resident DJ at an actual Latin theme club, salsa, Bacchata Mereng, the whole shebang. However, since he started his residency, I've noticed two big problems with his MC and DJing skills.
Starting point is 01:09:51 He plays the same damn songs. I don't mean to. It don't mean he has a favorite artist or two. I mean, guys, he plays the exact same music every weekend, track by track. Nothing about that set inspired me to dance. And two, his dance floors are too bright. Apparently, he likes to control the lighting. So the dance floor is so bright.
Starting point is 01:10:13 People were dancing in the darker spots of the dance floor because 70% of the floor is lit up like a floodlight. So what do I do? I can't tell him that his DJing sucks because like many DJs, he's very proud of his work and he's blind to criticism. But after seeing how empty the dance floors are at his club, I see now why this is happening.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I thought about messaging, my friends, messaging him on Facebook. Wait, missing. Yeah, messaging his friends on Facebook. So I feel that, you know, maybe if I do that, I'll show him. But I just don't know what to do, guys. He's like, I went to the other night and it definitely wasn't packed. I do not want this nice clip to die.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So basically, this person is trying to find out how do you tell your friend that he sucks as a DJ? I think the people are already telling him. I don't think you need to say anything unless, you know, you feel like you're going to like, help him decide to improve in some way. But if he's DJing and nobody's dancing, he missed the whole point of DJs. Like your job is to keep people on the dance floor. That's your job.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Now, are you saying that the club itself is empty and the promoters just don't pack anybody in? Or is he getting on and people are leaving the dance floor? Because that could be two separate things. There could be, A, I'm DJing here. It's just not a pack club. And then there's, I'm, DJ and here the club is packed and nobody's
Starting point is 01:11:42 dancing. I didn't really get that she was right she wasn't clear on that person wasn't that specific though it is interesting that the few people that are dancing are trying to dance in the corners where it's darker because the light is so bright in the middle of the dance floor well that just sounds like a bad club yeah and is he in charge
Starting point is 01:11:58 of the lighting too yes oh well then she's just a terrible club owner promoter and DJ I mean I don't have but how does she tell him that he sucks without hurting his feelings I think you start with the fact that the people in the club the yo b the lights too bright in the dance full that's why nobody's standing out there start you start giving him complaints from other people no start
Starting point is 01:12:22 telling him that yo man mate you know why nobody's dancing in the middle of the floor is because the lights too bright then get him to fix the lighting then after that if nobody's still dancing you're giving feedback on yo be like be honest you they're not dancing because you're not playing that heat you could do it in a nice way and i know i know he's probably not going to like it. But look, after you say your piece, just let it go. Let it go. Yeah, but how does she say it?
Starting point is 01:12:48 The dance floor is too bright. I suggest you kind of just make it a little bit more romantic and fun. Romantic. Yeah. Dim the lights. Dim it up. Moody. And then the fact that he plays the same set every week,
Starting point is 01:13:00 I don't know. Maybe tell him to switch it up. Nah. Some DJs have the same set and it's rocking every time. I know some DJs that y'all love. and they play the records in the same order every week and y'all pop. Yes. But obviously this is not popping, bro.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Well, yeah, but I think it's because he ain't getting the right people in the room. So he could change up the music. Maybe he's not, you know, there's a lot of factors here, Laura Stous is what I'm saying. So start with the lighting, start with the mood, get the play, get people in the building and then figure out, you know, the DJ and part. And maybe he needs to bring in other DJs. Is he hiring other DJs to play? We don't know because if he's the only one all night long, maybe that's a problem too.
Starting point is 01:13:39 problem because I think most DJs being on for like an hour or two taking a break, somebody else changing the energy is helpful. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So maybe suggest some guest DJs to mix it up. But after that, if he still doesn't get a girl, I don't know, or guy. I don't know who you are. But I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Maybe just stop going. But hopefully that helps. And he could just be playing trash. Yeah. Like if you're not playing the hits, you're playing your little bedroom classics. There's some, yo, for the, for the DJs, want to be DJs and people out there, bro. The internet's not doing y'all favors, man.
Starting point is 01:14:15 You got to go out in real life and see what people have been moving to for decades and learn what those cheat code records are. Because in every geography, every whatever, there are certain records that are just cultural. Yes. And they could be 20 years old, they could be 5 years old. You got to know those records. It ain't just about playing what you hear on the radio or what's on the street. streaming charts, a TikTok chart.
Starting point is 01:14:41 You got to know how to get this thing moved. And your job is also to read the crowd. You have to read that crowd. See what works. If it doesn't work, get out of it quickly. That's a great point. But, you know, I don't know if he knows all these things. So make your suggestions.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And if it doesn't work, just keep it moving. Or just show up to the club and hit this. Congratulations. You played yourself. Get a megaphone and a speaker. And whenever the dance floor is empty. Congratulations. You played yourself.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Hey, yo. Ebro-Laure Rosenberg at G-more are the original gurus at Gmail. They say we're not giving out the email enough. The original gurus at Gmail. Original gurus at gmail.com. Yo, it's been a busy week with my travel. I've meeting Laura will be back tomorrow. Yes.
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