THE ED MYLETT SHOW - 102 Year-Old Doctor Reveals Secrets To A Successful Life w/ Dr. Gladys McGarey

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

What can you learn from 102 years on this earth? You’re about to find out!My guest this week will leave you STUCK in amazement! At 102 YEARS YOUNG, Dr. Gladys McGarey's wisdom, experienced and accomplishments are unparalleled and clearly solidify her status as the revered MOTHER OF HOLISTIC MEDICINE. Her extraordinary book, THE WELL LIVED LIFE: A 102-YEAR OLD DOCTOR'S SIX SECRETS TO HEALTH AND HAPPINESS AT EVERY AGE, unveils the timeless insights she has gathered over the years and I’m so honored to welcome her to the show.Prepare for an episode brimming with profound yet straightforward guidance that will leave you yearning for more, just as I did.Get ready to take notes as we discuss:How to maintain vitality.How to live in your PASSION.Dr. McGarey's advice to her YOUNGER SELF—a perspective that holds timeless wisdom.The power of AWARENESS and attentiveness to the things that truly move you.The harmonious interplay of the five foundational "Ls" (LIFE, LOVE, LAUGHTER, LABOR, LISTENING).How to create a life of HARMONY.Her inspiring journey of overcoming severe dyslexia at an early age.How to find your authentic voiceHow to be a life-long learnerContemplating the significance of the end of life and the wisdom it imparts.While books, television, movies, and podcasts offer valuable insights, there is nothing quite like learning the lessons of the world IN REAL LIFE. And with over a century of profound experiences, Dr. Gladys McGarey stands as an eloquent and practical teacher like no other.This is an episode that will leave an indelible mark on your path to a fulfilled and purpose-driven life. Don't miss out on this extraordinary opportunity to learn from this jewel! 

This is the end my let's show. Okay, welcome back to the show everybody. Today's an honor for me. Today's all going to be about really wisdom. And my guest today has 102 years worth of that wisdom. Yep, my guest today has lived 102 years on this earth. She's a remarkable woman. She's a mother, I believe, of six children. He is also a doctor. She also met Gandhi, and she has a book out that is just extraordinary, called the Well-lived Life 102-year-old doctors six secrets to health and happiness at every age.

So Dr. Gladys McGarry, welcome finally to my show. I'm so happy to be here. It's my absolute honor to do this today with you. So I have so many things I want to ask you, so let's just get right into it. We've got a hundred. Let's do it. 102 years worth of stuff to get out in an hour. So here we go. You said something. You said, if I could distill my life's work and you nailed it down here, you said, to be truly alive, we must find the life force within ourselves and direct our energy towards it. That sounds

like an awful new age thing to say. And I'm wondering what you meant by that when you set it. new age thing to say and I'm wondering what you meant by that when you said it. I mean that we all have it. So it's something that we just just have not introduced ourselves to because we've been so busy looking outside for our fixates and the things that make us happy or what do we think that has to be outside of ourselves and don't realize that inside the very core of our being is what keeps us happy. As a matter of fact, I just learned while back that the Welsh, when they get up in the morning and meet somebody, they don't say good morning,

they say, how is your weird, really? Because the weird that they're talking about is this inner core of our being that is the thing that really keeps us going. Our life force. I call it the physician within, but that's that life force that really is the engine that keeps the thing going? Is that what you mean about the juice of life? Because you also, by the way, it's amazing. I've not really heard anybody else use that term. I've been using the term about getting the juice out of something or the juice of life now for probably 30 years.

Is that what you mean by that? I have. As I was smashing when I was reading your work, I'm like, oh my gosh, the juice of life. So is that connected to the life force? or is it something that works in it? No, it's definitely connected to the life force because it's what juices are, you know, if we don't have any juice, we're just kind of fall, you know, it's very sad. Well, I think most people, maybe you would agree. I should say most because that's a judgment.

But you, you say that the juice has two main parts, our individual essence, and then how we fit into the whole. And if I think about our culture today, I wonder how many people listening to this right now go, you know, I haven't tapped into my life force. And I, I don't get a lot of the juice out of life. So could you elaborate on that or individual essence? What a beautiful way to say it and how we fit into the whole. If we start paying attention to some of the things that make us happy, that make us want to dance and sing that want, make sometimes just make you want to yell. Something has happened and you really don't like it very well. It's okay to go about yourself and just holler sometime, you know. Sometimes we

need to express ourselves in a way that we can understand it. Or we can understand what it is what it is that I'm trying to say to myself, you know, this either is really it's so good, like it's so well, or it really makes me sad or it's however it's acting us, however we're reacting, whatever it is, is our way of responding to life. Does that mean that you think that, you know, the full expression of your emotions matters, meaning like I, I've had this three for a while that I don't even know that there are positive or negative emotions.

There just are emotions and that some... There are emotions. Yeah, it's energy, energy is energy. And sometimes it's, sometimes it just doesn't feel very good and sometimes it feels great. But whatever it is, if we can begin to say, oh, yes, or no, no, no, I, I, I, I, and we back away from it.

It's something that guides us from within ourselves that allows us to know what is what we're responding to and how we're responding to it. How do you figure that out, Glice? How do you figure that out? How do you know why you're, you know, I'm a big believer in self-awareness. Yeah. Some of that just comes, I think, maybe with age because you've been around yourself

a little bit longer. You know, I know more about myself at 52 right now than I certainly did at 22. Yeah, but you pay you've been paying attention to it and a lot of times at 100 haven't been paying attention to it and still don't feel it. You know, how do you do that? How do you pay more attention? Is it a little bit is it a little quiet time? Is it is it starting to take note of how you behave and what your patterns are? How does one begin to do that? I think it's an individual thing, so it's hard to say, blanket proud.

But when you begin to pay attention to what makes you respond to something. Yes. Is a person or a poem or a song or a flower, you know? Sometimes a rose will just say, oh, you know, that's great. You know, it's the awareness of how we respond to the inside and outside of ourselves. That's right. I'm part of a community. I think so many people, by the way, I have for many years, and sometimes I regress, but I kind of

have like an autopilot human being. And so the same things generate the same responses from me, no matter what the conditions are my life are. Sometimes I feel like I still find a way to get those same emotions. And in the book, you teach a way to do this and you label it with five L's. It's just sort of like a way to look at your life, right? Like these five L's. Could you, I never even heard any of this before.

And I've read a lot of books and had hundreds of podcasts So this is really important everybody what she's about to say because it's kind of a way to actually Measure or look at your life. So what are the foundational elves? What are those? I like to use the word foundation because they kind of for me When I came across them I don't know I came across when I came across them, I don't know, I came across when I came across them, they kind of gave me some foundation from which I could begin to talk about some of the things that I wanted to express, either to myself or to the outside. The five elves are all start with

else, or I'll start with life. The first one is life. Life by itself can't do anything. It's like a seed in a pyramid that's been there for 5,000 years. It's got all the energy of the universe within it, but it can't do anything until love, which would be in the form of water or sunlight or something, love activates at cracks a shell, and the energy comes out and the two become one. It's like a sperm in an ovum. A sperm by itself and an Oven by itself Can't do anything, but when they connect life comes forth. That's that's what happens When life comes forth then

we begin to and involve ourselves we involve ourselves with life and As we do that then we go up to the third hell, which is laughter. Laughter by itself is cruel. It's mean. It can be hard and rough and rude. But laughter with love is joy and happiness. And labor is the fourth one. Labor without love is, oh man, there are too many diapers. I got to go to work. It's just like, you know, it's really hard. But labor with love is bliss.

It's what makes you happy. It's not makes me happy. So it makes a singer sing which makes it painter paint I mean, it's that inner core within us labor is there. I mean, you know it's there But when you approach it with the whole force of love It blooms And the fifth one is listening. Listening without love is empty sound. The clanging gong, you know, it's empty sound, but listening with love is understanding. So as we use these as kind of the five, part of the foundation of what love is, what life is all about. It kind of has, allows us place to put things where they belong in some kind of order.

I have to tell you, that might be the, I'm sorry, a little emotional with that one. That might be the most profound and beautiful thing ever said on my show ever, ever. That's the foundation of my breath away. I mean, it's the foundation of life is love and to add to that life, laughter, labor, and listening with love. My gosh, what a remarkable formula, how beautifully said. By the way, I use the word bliss all the time also. I feel like I have this long-last, last friend that I'm meeting today.

Thank you for that gift. I'm curious if you went back all the way back and you could give the little girl some advice on her life. You go back all the way back to, I don't know, the 12-year-old Gladys. And she's embarking upon this long life she's going to live. Would there be any specific advice you would give her now that you've lived 102 years that I guess through you giving it to her, you can give it to all of us

was there's something you would tell her that you would whisper to her about her life and her in particular that you would want her to know before she goes out into the world and lives this thing. Yeah definitely. I tried to tell her that she's really not kind of a nice person and she's not a dumbbell. a kind of a nice person and she's not a dumbbell. Well, until I started school, life was wonderful. We lived in tents out in the jungle and my parents were doing the medical work in life. For me, life was just the way it was supposed to be, and then I started school. And I couldn't read a write. The letters were all over the place, the numbers were all over the place. I just absolutely, loosely could not read or write. Oh my God. Are you dyslexic? Really? Oh my gosh. Wow. Are you? No, I am not, but I'm sitting here

talking to the mother of holistic medicine. She becomes a medical doctor at a time where not very many women were doing that. She writes a book and she's telling me she's dyslexic after she's lived this life. I'm just sitting here going, oh my gosh. Well, you know, I was so severely dyslexic that I had to repeat first grade twice because a teacher labeled me the class dummy. Oh my gosh. because a teacher labeled me the class dummy. Oh my gosh. And so I was really, I was a good fighter. My second oldest brother

taught me how I could punch people out. And so people, so I, it was, you know, it was in fact, I remember being, you asked said 12 years old, being about that age, 10 or 12, waking up one morning and saying to myself, there's something wrong in this world, but as you don't have a friend. And then I said to myself, and why don't you have a friend? And I said, you know, you punch people out if they say something.

And that's, I don't think it's working. And then I said, and who do you know that doesn't do that? And I realized it was my mother. My mother was a kind of person if something happened. And she didn't like it or or something. She would deal with it either with humor or just let it go. And it was something that I and she had friends all over the place. I mean, she, everybody loved my mother. She would, everybody knew that she accepted them and life was good. In fact, she was the kind of person I remember being as a 12 year old again, sitting at a dining room table

when my mother was going to have a tea party and her fancy ladies were coming to tea. This is in India, up in the Himalayan. Okay. So, I hear my mother call the front door because I had my stuff all over the table and it was a mess. And my mother says to the ladies, they're coming through. Don't look straight ahead.

Don't look to the right. Don't look to the right. Go straight ahead and they go marching through and into the parlor and they have a wonderful tea party and I'm sitting there embarrassed because my mother did this but what a wonderful thing that happened but then something happened you know I person second grade were just terrible. But third grade was different. I had a teacher who saw something in me that the others had. And so she appointed me class governor. I couldn't read or write, but I could do other stuff.

And she saw that in me. And so I was class governor. And then I had the opportunity to present stuff that are clasted to the whole student body. And so at one point we had a play. It was, and the play was the, what was it, the frog jumped over the pond. And since I was the biggest one in the class, I had an extra ear here. I could jump over this pan of water that they had.

And I was really confident, but I knew I could do this. I come marching out on the stage and I look over into the audience and my two older brothers were sitting there. And it just threw me off my steps enough that when I jumped over the pod, I landed in it, not over it. And my mother had made me this frog suit. She dyed it green and all this. So I'm standing there. The green is fading and I'm in tears and I can't move. And the audience is hysterical. Everybody's just laughing. And I can't move so that teacher comes, takes me off the stage. And I go home totally humanly. I didn't rest at the dinner table. My brothers and sisters, my mother, this just great thing.

You know, we just sister. Finally, my mother says to them, all right, boys, you've had your fun now. What are we as a family going to do to help Glady? So if this ever happens to her again, people won't laugh at her. They'll laugh with her. And that has stayed with me throughout my life because there have been many you know, this dyslexia thing keeps you off. It's hard to keep right in the center of things.

You get off balance easily. So I've stripped and tripped and fallen on stage and all of the pit, all of the pit has always been able to pick it up. And I'd have an audience in my hand before I ever set a thing. And so it was one of these huge life learning experiences. And another say that was really, really interesting.

When we started the American Holistic Medical Association, first of all, it took us two years to decide how to spell it because we were looking for the word health, healing, and holy because it was missing in medicine at that point was the spirit. We had the mind and the body, but we didn't have the spirit. But we got it in two years and we got it and so on. But one day, there were 10 of us who were part of this group that started sitting around

a table. And six of us were severely dyslexic. You're kidding me. I'm not kidding. And so we said to each other that's why we started this. It must be because we in order to read I don't know how I learned to read. You know I really don't. I have no idea and they didn't some of them had some ideas, which I didn't particularly agree with, but you know, it was that kind of thing. But we decided that it was because we were looking for something beyond the reading, writing arithmetic, yeah, I have to say something. There's so much to unpack there.

The first thing is when you go back to the 12 year old you, a version of that advice is something I hope everybody in the audience gives themselves, which is first part of it is, hey, you're a pretty good person. And just that reminder, you're a pretty good person. Yeah. And then the second piece of it is kind of the second part was give yourself a break. Give yourself a break. You know what? You're a little bit better than you think you are. I gotta say if I could go back to the 12 year old me, I would tell me I would say, you know what? You're

a good man. You care about people. You're kind and you're giving. And you know what? You're not so bad, man. All these things that you know are so bad about you. Those are actually the things. And then the third lesson is that this woman becomes an MD at the time. She's the mother of holistic medicine number one, but she ends up doing this at a time where this is just not something that very many women were doing at the time. And she does this now to know that you were severely dyslexic. And now to know that when you founded this this group that the people around the table also shared what most people would think is this deficiency, which ends up to be a gift because it

probably caused you to work harder, be more diligent and think beyond as you want to do that. And those are all the things in life. We all think our limitations or what we think are our limitations. These are the things that steal the juice from our life to go back to the juice. We think, oh, this limitation I have is why I'm not going to do it. Most humans lose the juice of their life because they're so familiar with their deficiencies and not their possibilities. Not their possibilities. And you say something, she has in this book six profound principles for living. And the first one is, this is just you know, it's your doctor say this, but you said you are here for a reason. And I'm curious why that was the first thing you listed of

the six. Because if you don't get that, where do you put the others? You know, if you don't realize that you really have a reason to be here, to bring me, it's kind of like a huge jigsaw puzzle, and we're each a piece in that jigsaw puzzle. And if you've ever had a thousand piece jigsaw puzzle and got it all done and you couldn't find that last piece. It drives you crazy, you know. We all are that important to the whole. The whole is not complete if we don't recognize ourselves as whole. My youngest son who's an ophthalhthalmologist and five step came down.

We were talking one time. He says, you know, there's a guy up in five step. He doesn't like me. He says, I don't understand, but I like me. Mm-hmm. I thought, yeah, yeah. That means you did your job right.

That's what that means. Because that's not that's not true for most people. That means you did your job right. That's what that means. That's not true for most people. By the way, guys, I'll just give you a couple of the other ones. Two is, all life needs to move. Third, love is medicine. And fourth, this is a big one if you could speak to it. Because I think so many people feel alone.

And you're dead. Four, you are never truly alone. Absolutely. Absolutely. If you just take the time to really look at that, you aren't. There's always some life moving around you. And it's it's a whole process of life. Even if, you know, during the pandemic and so on, people were feeling alone. One of the reasons they were feeling alone was because they had never had this experience before of being isolated like that. And for a lot of people, it was a sole awakening. Whereas prior to that, they may have felt like they didn't fit into a community or saying, but the community was always there. And they always had something that they could reach out to whether they wanted to or not. But one of the things that the pandemic did was to give people the awareness that they needed each other.

Yes, yes. And here's another great thing that I think is really interesting. I have a friend who's a visionary and a psychic in Virginia Beach, Rosalie. She, I was talking to her, she and I were talking one time about manifesting something or rather that we were trying to manifest. She said, you know, I think that there's another word that we really need to use.

She says, that's femafesting. What does that mean? It says, we manifest things and we think that we have to manifest things. But where is the feminine aspect of this? We need to manifest. So as we talked about it, we realized that manifesting is like climbing Jacob's ladder. You get into first grade and then you, you know, you climb the ladder and you get up the, where that's manifesting. But fema-festing is like a spiral. You can be on the fifth level, but, and you know what's going on down the second level. Women know that. You know, you can be, have a baby in one arm trying to do dishes and another to take care of the one on the floor. The difference in the feminine energy and the masculine energy, which we need both. In fact, the reason we started talking about this is I had a dream.

I had this dream where I woke up. There was a huge crash and I woke up and I looked and I was in the high Himalayas in that valley. And on the one side, there was a young woman just lying there, almost dead, just barely breathing. And on the other side, the left side, there was a man in her armor during the same thing. And I heard the voice saying, these two have been doing this for the ons. It's time they did this. And by the way, if you were listening, she did her fist together and then put her hands together, come together, we should say. Right. And I realized when I began thinking about it, that the girl was on the left, on the right

side, which is the masculine side, and the man was on the left side, all in armor and everything, and they were been for eons fighting. And so that's when we came up with this FEMA fest and manifest. Well, it's about to go to millions of people right now. So now I can see the hats and the t-shirts and all this stuff being pretty out of use today. And what happens with the pregnancy,

the egg and the sperm come together and life happens. The egg and the sperm come together and life happens. They're egg by itself is, you know, what's it gonna do? Spirm by itself, what it's gonna do? But when they get together, life happens. So good. And that's manifestation. So pregnancies are manifesting.

So good. I have to tell you, I'm sitting here, it's going. I don't do very many shows like this where I go. I want to listen to this one back right away. I knew this would be good today, but I didn't know it would be. I knew your depth. I didn't know you're this deep. And after you've lived a little bit, you have a tremendous appreciation for the things Gladys is talking about.

And you said something there, I don't want a minute to skip over. You said, I spent time with my dreams. What do you mean by that? I just curious, is that something you've done all your life? Or? Well, I didn't, yeah, we used to talk about our dreams when we were kids and all that.

And my mother didn't discourages, but as I Do you think they have meaning Gladys? Oh wow. Yes, I in fact guidance and and all of that in fact I I really didn't Understand that I had a voice until I was 93. Now that didn't mean that I wasn't choosing my voice, but I didn't really respect it until I was 93. I'm just so helping me. This is true. Because I was dyslexic and I was a dummy. You know, you don't realize how some of these ambiguous pains happened to you when you're young. And you're the damaged one.

I was forever asking somebody else to validate it until I had this dream. I was watching nine-year-old Gladys, okay? And we were in the tents in the jungles where we had grown up. And in our family on Sunday mornings, we were not supposed to say anything, but hymns or pudgins. And as this nine-year-old smart-hearted,

I thought that was a stupid thing, and I wanted to sing whatever I wanted to sing. And so I saw myself pulling the tent, felt tent-plap back and looking out to see that my little brother wasn't there because he'd tattle on me and then I'd had, you know, so I had to get out. And he wasn't there so as fast as I could I ran and I climbed up my the mango tree that was out there and I'm sitting up at the top and I'm singing oh man I'm singing the caterpillar song or any old thing that came into my hand and just having the best time and every so often I look

over my right shoulder and Jesus is up in the tree with me. And Jesus is laughing. And I look at him and I say, Jesus loves a little children, right? And he's laughing. He says, yes. And so I go back to my sitting and then I get to doubt again, you know, and I think you better check again. So I look back and I say, I'm still a little children, right? And he says, yes, so I go back to my singing.

And I wake up, and I wake up singing and laughing. And it was a Sunday morning here. So it tied all this in. And at that point, I said, that is you have a voice. You have to start claiming it. Oh, my God. So it tied all this in and at that point I said, glad is you have a voice. You have to start claiming it. Oh my gosh, Gladis.

It's true. That's amazing. The idea that when we're little, these wounds stay with us till we're 93 or beyond is an absolute fact. The idea that you listen to your dreams, what a lesson for everybody here. And this idea that you find your voice at 93 is absolutely extraordinary. And by the way, thank God you did because I wouldn't be with you here today if you didn't find that voice.

Well, it was important to me when I realized what I realized was that every time I had deflected what I had said to somebody else, I was denying what I said. My gosh, Gladys, there's millions of people right now that are crying. I can probably miss you going. That's me. I need someone's validation. I need their approval. I need permission in my life. Yeah. And not everybody Gladys is going to be as blessed and as fortunate as you to be here for the 93 years and to the 102 years. So they better figure it out right now listening to your wisdom that they don't need validation or permission. And they have a voice because they may not get a chance to figure it out in the 93rd year. That's absolutely true. You need to, you know, we are, I am me, you are you. And there is anybody else in between us except the whole world.

You know? You know? So it's, it's, we're there and we bump up with each other and find each other. And I couldn't begin to do this. And my son didn't do the technical, you know, we're totally dependent on each other. And I couldn't begin to do this. And my son didn't do the technical, you know, we're totally dependent on each other. Let me tell you, my eldest son is a retired orthopedic surgeon.

But when he finished his surgery, he came through Phoenix and he was going down to Del Rio, Texas, to start his practice. And he says, Mom, I'm real worried. He said, I have all this training and everything. And I'm going out into the world. I'm going to have people's lives in my hands. I don't know if I can handle that. And I said, well, Carl, if you think that you're the one that does the healing, you have a right to be scared. But if you can understand that you have this amazing training with the orthopedic surgery that you have gotten and you've spent all of this time doing, you need to keep that and keep doing it. And then turn the healing of it over to the physician who's in the patient. Because you can do everything that you do. But if

the patient doesn't accept it and doesn't do what you are telling them or work with you with it. And you haven't even accepted the fact that they can do that. There's a gap. So in a whole process of healing, we all need, if in the field of medicine, we all need to respect the physician within the patient as our colleagues.

I think, Glas, I'm sitting here thinking, I wish I was giving a seminar and a speech with you, because I don't, I think I know what you mean, too, and it's not just it's the field of medicine, it's the field of life. Yes. There's this, there's this physician within us. Now, for me, that's God living within us,

but whatever you're doing, sorry, and I know you believe that, too, that that, that, that. That's the healer. That's the one where you can do everything you can and you just separate from the outcome and just let things happen the way that they're naturally supposed to happen in life. And too many people, I think sometimes it's actually an ego. Actually, even if you might think they're humility involved, you think you control everything. There's got to be an element in your life where you do your part and you actually say this, number five in the book is, everything's your teacher.

And I want you to talk about it, but for me, maybe about 15 years ago, I stopped trying to control every outcome. I stopped looking at everything as a win or a loss. And I started to look at myself more as a learner and more as a curious person. That didn't mean I don't want to produce a result. I'm driven. I'm ambitious. But when I started to position myself as this license experience and the things in my life, I'm going to learn from. Now you flip it and talk about everything is your teacher. So I want you to share that wisdom as well.

If you're stuck in a place and for whatever reason and you don't understand that this is here for a reason, in fact, that's what's happened to the field of medicine. We think, see, I was, I went through medical school during the war. I started in September and the war started in December, so all those years. It was all about trying to get rid of an enemy. And there were the two enemies that were so huge, were the enemies that we were fighting against, but in the field of medicine, when I got out of the medical school,

we still had two enemies. And those enemies were disease and pain. And so those were, we're still trying to do that. Eliminate the disease and pain. I'm so committed to having in this world a loving birth place where babies can be born in a loving environment, not something that's just trying to kill pain. Because when I was in medical school, we were doing twilight sleep. My first two sons I delivered with twilight sleep. And I didn't know I had a son until 24 hours later because all the pain was taken away, not all the pain just everything was taken away,

was completely gone. And the baby had to be delivered with forcips. So I was really good at that. I could deliver a baby with an after-coming head, and all. And I've tried, I've realized now that what we did with that whole process of taking away the pain is we've taken away the power from our very women, and we talk about having to be delivered of our babies. We don't have to be delivered of our babies. Women need to birth their babies.

And I have to constantly, I'm so many years I've talked about delivered babies. We deliver pieces and we deliver speeches. We don't deliver babies. Women birth their own babies. But we're there to support them and help them and work with them and be part of the world that the baby comes into. Yeah. I was just thinking about really good friend of mine is doing a home birth. You just decided to do a home in a loving environment. And you know, a lot of people actually believe the birthing experience affects the emotional well-being of the child as well. Oh, absolutely.

I also think about people out there that want to birth their dreams. And the fact that, you know, there's a necessity for pain to go through that dream. Your dreams not delivered to you. You birth your dream. And it's going to be pain involved. And it's part of the experience of birthing your life. And birthing your dream is the pain and the the notion that you just remove all of the pain removes the experience. Because when you get to the other side of your life and you do write that book that you finally write or you make that dream happen, it's some of the pain and the discomfort and the learning that you went through that makes it so worthwhile. And if you stripped out all the pain and all the learning and all the experience, it's

just the result instead of the journey, the experience that you've been. I'm so fascinated by you. I want to ask you a question, if you don't mind, this is probably a bit intrusive, but I do, and I'm only 52. Do you think of maybe? Well, by the way, I feel so good to have somebody that's 50 years older than me on my show, because you really, most of the time on the oldest guy on my show. But I wonder if you think about the end of your body in this life, do you think about those things?

If you do, what are your thoughts about them? Do you fear it? Do you wanna run full speed towards it? Do you never think about it? Or does thinking about that give you some of that juice in life to live and be present for today? Yes, that lasts. Yeah, because my sister...

Well, I've had experience with death that is so inspiring that I don't... You know, okay, I'll tell you, my sister, she's two years older than me. Okay, I'll tell you my sister, she was two years older than me. And she wasn't a fighter, she was a peacemaker in our family. She was a little child. And you know, she was that always throughout her whole life. So she was 98 when she passed over. And she'd been healthy and well until she got the flu

and then she just didn't get over. And so just as she was her youngest son and his wife were with her as she made the transition and she was lying in bed and started singing. And she was lying in bed and started singing. And she started singing hymns and budgains, which are Indian hymns. And as she started, first, her voice was weak, but it got stronger as she kept singing. And every so often, she'd say, and Aya is here. Now Aya was our, well, she was like our second mother. She was this Indian woman. She was totally illiterate and everything, but she was the one that encompassed

us in love. And all of it, you know, my mother was busy with her practice, but I was always there. Well, Ia taught us how to play the Indian Tula, the dumb, true side of the drum. But she tried to teach me that I wouldn't say still long enough, but she taught Margaret. And so she's Margaret saying, Ia is here. And in my mind, I can see them moving over to whatever the scope of heaven is that they're moving into singing and drumming as they go. You know, and to me, what could be more beautiful than that? My gosh. And, you know, there are other times when I've watched people make the transition and, and they've communicated with me from the other side and, you know, their stories have gone. I don't think, see, I know that the baby in the uterus knows what the mother's doing.

I mean, as a unit, a pregnant woman and a baby are one unit. And it's not until the baby takes it so that we're femicasting, okay? So it's not until the baby takes its first breath that it becomes a separate unit. It's that moving into its own person, taking that first life-giving breath that is its own. You know, the mother didn't have to give it to it. It had to find that life force and become not an it, but a real baby. I had my last two babies at home. And when I came to Phoenix,

we created the baby buggy program so that we had a way in which if there was something that needed to have one or the other transported or something, we had the equipment, we could transport. And it was, as a matter of fact, it created communities because it was this huge van with a historic painted blue and the historic painted on the side. And when when I or the midwife went to the house, we would park this baby buggy outside. And so the whole neighborhood, don't what was going on in that house. And so the whole neighborhood, don't know what was going on in that house. You know, this baby's coming. So it was like it brought the neighborhood together.

You, I'm thinking about, I'm just watching you right now. I'm thinking she could be doing whatever she wants right now, right? And so could I. And yet you're investing and spending energy and other human beings. And of all the things in your book that made me, well, I'm not of all, one of the things. I can't even pick one.

And I can't even pick one out of today. So what we're gonna finish this, I'm gonna tell everybody at the dinner I'm going to tonight about our conversation. They're gonna ask me to pick one thing and I can't. And nobody that's listening to the show can pick one thing, it's too profound. But you say in number six in the book, spend your energy wildly.

And a lot of people think, I don't know, rest, take it easy. You'll live longer if you do that. And a lot of people kind of hit me like, why are you so engaged in your life? You know, and I don't know that I've ever answered it very well, but I almost feel like you gave me permission. What do you, you don't, you have a 10-year plan and you're 102 years old, right? You actually have a 10-year plan. I'm 102 and a half. And a half, and a half. My great-grandkids say that, so I can say it too. 102 and a half. Yeah. What's this notion of spend your energy wildly? my great-grandkids say that so I can say it to... I'm honored to have.

Yeah. What's this notion of spend your energy wildly? Well, you know, if you try to save it, it doesn't work. And a lot of times when we tell a patient, you know, you have such and such and you really need to go home and rest. Yeah. They think that you are saying you have to go home and do nothing. But to go home and rest is to do something. Going home for a rest is actually a prescription for you to do something. You go home and you

rest. Then you're not just doing nothing. You're allowing your energy to do what it needs to do, which is sort of refocus itself and do whatever it needs to do. But it's not putting it in a bank and then having to go and pull it out again or something like that. It's something that has to be allowed to be something. Yes. And so to be rusty is a very good thing if that's what you're supposed to be doing. But if you have, like,

I have a patient not too long ago, who was retired from the work that she'd been doing, and she'd been resting, and she had lost all of her juice that she thought she was saving. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Reconnect her with her juice. Oh my gosh. You're just unbelievably awesome. Like you're just unbelievably awesome. You are. I, um, okay, I got two more things for you. I, I tell you what, I would love to have you come back on would you come back on again? Uh-huh. I would love that We'll do we we're just too many things I want to ask you but Two things you met Gandhi at one point in your life correct What did you what did you learn from Gandhi if anything? Well, it was one of the

What did you learn from Gandhi if anything? Well, it was one of the experiences that you don't forget, okay? Yeah. The family was in the process on a train going from the Rurakki down to Bombay to get on the boat and come to the States because every seven and a half years my parents had a furrow. And so I was on the boat and come to the States because every seven and a half years my parents had a furrow.

And so I was on the train and the train started slowing down because there was a huge crowd, but there were always crowds around in India, you know, but there was this whole crowd and they were chanting and saying something. And I saw up ahead of them them this man with just a small man with a large locked to you which is his and his daughter which is the daughter he wears around loincloth and he's walking along and comes right about outside of my window, just not outside. But in my light of vision and stoopstum and a little girl is handing him a flower. And when he's picked, he takes a flower from the little girl, he looks up and looks straight into my eyes. Now nobody can tell me he didn't do it. Nobody can tell me

what happened, but I knew at that time there was something there. And so I can still conjure up that look. It was just sometimes a newborn baby can look at you like that. There's sometimes there's, there's a connection with you and another person that is there. And that's what happened. So, well, you know, I took it in and 30 years later, when India partition happened and the Hindus were killing the Mahaan, there was such awful stuff. My parents and my brother, Farrah, who was a physician, had a little mobile unit that they were traveling around to the camps with people around. And my dad and mother were working with Gandhi talking to the people about from the stage about trying to get some kind of movement of life that would help to heal this whole thing.

And so they became friends and I was in college at the time. So, you know, I was here in the States, but my parents were out there working was Gandhi. And when they, at one point, Gandhi gave my mother a Kashmiri Shaw, which I have here in my house and my dad apparently put a blanket because they respected each other so much that it was one of those things that I still connect with the time that I had connected with Gandhi at when I was 10 years old. I think what you're saying there too is that, by the way, this is an experience I'll never forget.

And I think what you mean by that is that there's an energy when you meet certain people and that that's what life really is. You talk so much about energy the way that we use it, the way that we give it to other people. And I think everybody, one of the lessons today is just to be conscious of energy, conscious of your, you're always making people feel something. So take, be intentional about what those things are. And you're always making yourself feel something. Absolutely. Yeah. And you're when you're aware of it, it really is a teacher. Hmm. When you become aware of what this, what you're doing, no matter whether it's, it's a present, well, not.

I'm almost a no matter whether it's good or bad, but that's not that. I don't mean that. I mean, energy is energy. And whatever it is, it is. That's right. It is. And don't judge it when you lose variance it. It's beautifully said.

I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know that this was going to affect me as much as it did today. And it really, really did. It touches me too. I'm deeply moved by you and your work. And I'm speaking for millions of people, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for finding your voice at 93. Yeah. Thank you for having that dream. Thank you for listening to that dream.

And thank you for what you do. And thank you for allowing me just to say it to talk about it. I'm quite grateful. This is one of those experiences I will never forget. And so I can't wait for the world to hear this. So everybody, make sure that you get Dr. Gladys McGarry's book, The Well-Lived Life, 102-year-old Dr. Six Seekers to Health Happiness at every age. All right, everybody, good God bless you.

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