THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Bombshell New Evidence in the O.J. Simpson Case Feat. Chris Todd

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. So you know, for the last 10 years, every single week we've been putting out episodes that either change or improve your life. And that's why we become one of the top shows in the world. And I'm very grateful of that. And I hope we continue to do that for the next 10 years. But this year, every once in a while, I want to do something that's a little bit off the beaten path for our show, which is to have a topic on the show that just fascinates me personally. And in my lifetime, one of the two or three most compelling stories, the things that just stand out. out as moments in time that I'll never forget is the OJ Simpson trial.

And some information came across my desk about six months ago from somebody that has a theory as to exactly what happened in the murders of Nicole Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman that I thought was interesting enough that I wanted to share it with you. And so today we're going to have a conversation with him. We haven't recorded it yet. We're about to go into it. And I just want to be clear, I'm not a detective, I'm not in law enforcement, I'm not an attorney, and I don't claim to know what happened exactly

and the loss of life for these two precious souls. But he believes he does. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask the questions that I think you would want me to ask. And I think it's going to be one of the most interesting, fascinating episodes of all time on the show. And then you can decide what you think happened. And so can I at the end of the conversation.

And so I'll work on your behalf to get as much information as I can and keep it as entertaining as possible. I hope you enjoy this. Here we go. All right, guys. So I've already sort of introduced the episode today. So let me just introduce the person. I'm going to talk to Chris Todd.

Chris is a veteran PI, been a private investigator a long time. But he's just one of the great truth seekers in the world today, whether that be what happened with Kurt Cobain or Biggie Smalls or what we're going to talk about today mainly, which is O.J. Simpson in the O.J. Simpson trial. And I've got to tell you, Chris, first welcome to the show, brother. Good to have you here. Thank you, man. I'm honored to be here with you, Ed.

Thank you. I should tell you first in the audience why I have such an interest in this. obviously it's one of the most compelling stories of my lifetime. But I have to tell you, I haven't told you this until I wanted to record. This trial and what happened to particularly Nicole matters to me because I was fresh out of college and my business partner in my first business was dating Nicole's sister at the time the murder happened. Really?

And so I spent time around the family during the trial. Wow. I get a little insight into what the family was thinking initially as well. And so this is not just something that I watched on TV. It's something that I was at least in a peripheral way around the trial and a little bit around the family. And so I'm really interested into here what you've discovered or what your theories are. Before you tell us what they are, on a scale of one to a hundred, how sure are you that what you're about to share with us is accurate? Is it a 90? Is it a 52?

How sure are you? I would say it's a 90. And the reason I leave that little 10% is because, you know, I've dealt with a lot of accomplices and criminals, let's say. And you have to be careful what you believe from what they say. So I always leave, I'll leave you like 10% that. And we're going to get into something interesting today that I'm going to talk about that there's actually another person involved with them that took me a long time to really kind of. of vet. So it's a fascinating story. My journey is beyond comprehension and, you know, all glory to God in a way of how I was brought into this. And we can get into that stuff, you know, as we go. I might know who your friend is that probably, I won't say his name, but I think I might know who that is. Off camera, I'll share that with you, but not relative to the story, but I want to protect those folks as well. But start out by asking you, most of us that watch that trial, I'd say the majority of people that watch the trial eventually reached the conclusion that they

believe that OJ killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. Most of them that I talk to, though, wonder whether he could have done this alone. And of course, there's a percentage of people that still believe that maybe he didn't do it or they don't know. First of all, lay out for us what you believe. if you have a book you wrote called Ron's Revenge, what you believe took place, just a general overview of what happened to these two precious souls, who did it, they do it with someone else, they do it alone, et cetera.

Absolutely. And my original book was called If We Did It. This was the beginning of this saga. After I kind of met one of the key players, let's say, I came forward against that person. Today I won't say their full name. I can say the actual name that OJ used, right? OJ kept calling him Charlie. So that's in OJ's book, Chapter 6 of If I Did It, and OJ supposedly had confessed cryptically to Judith Regan to Fox.

That interview was shelved for 12 years. It was barred from the public, okay? The overview is because there's so much, I mean, just there's, I mean, this is seven years of, I saw things that I cannot even explain. So basically, OJ didn't do it alone, okay? And I know for a fact there's one person with them, there's possibly two people with them. Okay? That's where I leave that 10%.

Okay. I know 150% that OJ did not do this alone. And a lot of people, like you said, a lot of people knew that too. And there was a lot of evidence. There was other shoeprints in blood there. There were other fingerprints. There was blood DNA in the Bronco and at the murder scene that did not match O.J. Ron or Nicole. And I learned, and look, I'm not going to talk badly about the LAPD because they've actually been pretty cool listening over the years.

They could have ignored me a lot, right? But they've listened. And whether they do something, that's up to them. I don't control that. but OJ did it. He had help and it solves all the mysteries of like where the clothes went and the shoes and the knife. Why did they never find that stuff? How did he get back to his house so fast?

How did he get rid of everything and nobody saw the Bronco and where was the Bronco at the house? Like he got dropped off. He jumped a fence. There was all this stuff. And like most of the public, I was a fan. I was in college. I was 20 years old when it happened. And so I did live it too.

And when I first met these guys, there was a couple of people involved with these projects, so to speak, I couldn't believe it. And it took me about a year to truly believe it after vetting it, using other sources, using my investigative techniques. And, I mean, I didn't sleep for a few nights after I was made aware of what was going on. imagine so let me go through what I understand and you'll just correct me because I'll be wrong about this is 30 years ago or whatever it was but my understanding is is that there was some sort of a recital or something at school that day Nicole ends up having dinner with family and I think it's Metzaluna I think that's the name of the place Ron was a server there and I think maybe OJ came there and there was a disagreementary left that part you can clear up but how do you get

from Metzaluna to OJ pulling up. Let me just help speed this up too. OJ lives down the street. There's a front entrance in Nicole's house. There's a back entrance in Nicole's house. My understanding is you believe that he drove down what would be considered like the back alley that

night. Fix what I just said that's wrong. My understanding also is that Nicole supposedly left some glasses at the restaurant, called the restaurant. Ron agrees to deliver them to the house that night. And what one, how did he get there and be, why did he do this?

Like, what compels this guy? He was obviously violent with her in the past, but this night did he intend to kill her? Did he intend to scare her? What makes him get in his car knowing he's flying to Chicago, I think later that night, and drive over there and do this? What spurred this change in his behavior or acceleration of his behavior? Yeah, and you remind me at the end,

I'm going to start with the first part of what you said, and then I should be able to remember that second part. There is a recital. Nicole does go to dinner at Metzaluna with her family and the kids. OJ. doesn't go. Whether O.J. was invited or not. There's a lot of different theory. Was he at the recital, and that's where there was a... He was filmed there.

A guy from Portland, Oregon, filmed O.J. Kissing one of his children, and that was a big piece of this story in case. So he was there. Nicole and OJ were not speaking to each other at this time. On June 12th, 1994, they hated each other. Like cats and dogs, man. I can't explain it. There's a couple things about this IRS letter.

They, I mean, they were, it was bad. It was really bad. And there were a lot of warning signs over the years. Okay. And these friends should have stepped in. This murder is not premeditated. It's not. okay. OJ's waiting for a limousine to come, take him to the airport to go to Chicago.

Within minutes, minutes. I'm not talking hours. I'm talking within minutes. Okay. Basically, what happens is I'm going to say two men show up at Rockingham and tell OJ they owe some money to them. OJ and them owe these people money. There's two. I'm going to say this because I can say this. legally. Charlie, quote unquote, and another gentleman that I may say the name as we go because he died. He's dead. Okay. If I remove, I know Charlie's there. If I remove the second guy, right? And I just focus on one guy doing an extortion, right? You owe us money. They owe us money for drugs. You guys have been, you know, you have to understand the mafia mentality. It's a setup. It's an extortion to get

money out of him because OJ has nowhere to go. Who's he going to go to? The cops? He can't go anywhere. So OJ had a drug problem. A lot of people knew that. And he was entangled in the wrong crowd, period. So was Nicole. So was Faye Resnick. To some degree, Keith Z may have been. He's rid of people from Mezzaluna. These were the good friends in Nicole. There was a lot of stuff going on in LA in 94, okay? Basically, OJ freaks out and says, no, I'm not doing, I'm not giving a dime. And they're, there, the tables have turned. And O.J. says, we're going to Nicole's. And he has them going to Bronco with him to Nicole's house. At about, at about 10, 20 p.m., he leaves rocking him. Because the limo lands at like 10.25. He misses him. The limo never sees a

Bronco. Okay. I've heard this. What compels this guy? No one is getting on an airplane to drive over there. So you're saying what compelled him is one or two of these shadowy figures, kind of mob dudes. And he's investigated this, everybody. This isn't something that he's just looked, you know, it's actually something that OJ said as well. So these guys, here's a confrontation. Backdrop on that just really quickly is he said OJ had a drug problem. Did OJ also help, do you believe in his past maybe distribute or sell any of these drugs to people? And that's why he was entangled with these two guys. Absolutely. He was facilitating deals with these two men.

Absolutely. 100%. And I can prove that. And also AC was too. And that can be proven also. Some of it's in the public domain. It's talking about drugs when he's got a Hertz rental card deal. He's making some movies. He's on, I think he's doing football on NBC at the time. Was he hurting for money? How's he hurting for money? Plus he's got an NFL pension. Why is he dealing drugs? This is the segue into the seven deadly sins. This is the segue into temptation. I believe through my cases, a lot of them, and I talk about this, my spirituality and God and Jesus with these cases and how they help me in a way, is OJ was possessed by anger, jealousy, rage. He's angry. He's embarrassed.

He's mad. And when we hit that point of no return, there is no. turning back. He couldn't turn back. He told his bail bondsman in Vegas years later, I should have just got on my plane. He knew in the retrospect, what was I doing? Why? He could have told these guys, hey, chill out. I'll take care of it. Why does he need to, why does he need to race to Nicole's before he's going to get in a limo to go on an airplane? Because of his anger. Okay, so if I could, I don't want to do that a lot, but there's just in case people aren't familiar. there was a this was a very volatile relationship there was violence in the relationship they'd broken up and got back together several times there are you know pretty valid stories that maybe that Nicole had dated we'll call it dated a few of OJ's friends he had had some frustration about that but I don't understand two guys show up kind of a shakedown you owe us money why Nicole's house why is that where he's going so they named Nicole when they're talking to him they're saying her name and they're also saying

Keith Z's name. Now, Keith Z was the one that triggered a lot of this anger, the 911 call in October of 93, the stalking incidents. That's Keith. So when they say Nicole's name, Faye Restnick, Keith, this is setting him off. They're pushing his buttons. Okay. And it's dark, man. He obviously a guy that was that good looking, that charismatic, that famous. You're absolutely right. We're can't see how he would do it. But God can and the devil can. That's what happens all the time, almost every day. People do things they should not do. So, you know, it's a sad story. It became a total mess after that. There's a lot of different theories and evidence that pointed to this. And, you know, I do want to touch about the cover up and the censorship of this story, but we can keep going. So either one of these guys, which the first time I heard you

with your theory, you thought there was one guy, let's just leave room that there could be a second guy with him in your theory, everybody. I have no idea what happened, obviously. I've not done any investigating. So they end up in his car. You say it's not premeditated, but then at the same time,

I've been told he's wearing gloves and a mask. So if it's not premeditated, why does gloves and a mask? Not a mask. That's something marked first. Herman said there was no mask. It was just a cap. It was a beanie cap. Like he wear when he golf, he said. The gloves were driving gloves. Okay, they're isotoners. He wasn't in like this costume. Like people try to say that. Look, let me, I'm going to give you the quick sound bite.

OJ wants to scare her. Okay. He had stalked her before in all black clothing, probably had the cap on. Maybe he had the gloves. Maybe he had thought about this before, doing this before. Keith Z talks. about this when he watches them through the window, he felt he could be killed. Okay. He could have come in. He was like trying to get in the house. It was all locked. Okay.

So he had done this before. Colby's in the trial had talked about seeing a man, black man outside at Gretna Green, so a lot of people know that. So he wants to scare her. And in his book in Chapter 6, he tells you, I'm going to go read her the Riot Act. He wants to scare her. Now, whether he tries to say, I had a knife, I took it up from under the seat. Look at this blade and he tells Charlie.

Look at this blade. And Charlie says in the chapter of the book, what are you doing, dude? Put that away. You're going to go talk to her, go talk to her, right? So there's confusion about how many knives there really are. Do these other guys have knives and guns? Most likely, I mean, dealers carry weapons, period. especially in the white, the snow game, okay?

They are ready to die at any moment, okay? Anyone will tell you that in that game. So they're there to scare them. When they show up and go through the back gate, the problem is there's Ron Goldman at the front. Here's a white guy, good looking, dressed to the nines, dropping off Judita's glasses, Nicole's mother. She dropped him on the sidewalk.

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You have a blonde lady that comes in the restaurant, he's got a crush on her, right? Exactly. It also accurate, before you tell us what you think happened, correct me if I'm wrong, because I certainly could be, that the wounds on both of them, and please tell me if I'm wrong about this, because this is significant to your point,

that there's evidence that it is two different knives that were used in the assault. If that's true, why in the world, that not come out at trial or did it? It did. And what happened was in the very beginning, they put on Dr. Irwin Golden, who was the coroner, the original coroner. He was the deputy coroner. He had a boss, Dr. Lachmanin, but he did the autopsy, Dr. Irwin Golden. He says in the preliminary hearing, there's two morphologically different types of stab wounds on the victims. Shapiro gets with him. He starts brilling them. Could two

knives have been used? Yes. And that's all recorded. Now, what happens the next day? Marsha Clark kicks him off the case, literally, and that's a problem. They actually went to other corners across the country for somebody else. Why? Because it's a cover-up. They don't want to hear that there's two knives. And it's, so this is, this thing was rooted right in the beginning with cover-up, right away. way. And there's different reasoning for that. Some of it, they just wanted OJ. Some guys were afraid of the mob guys. Look, one of the guys is an animal, not Charlie, the other one. If he was still alive today, I would not be talking to you. Fair enough. So philosophically, what you believe is there was, we're going to go into this moment with Ron Goldman in a minute, but you do believe that OJ did this

with an accomplice. Having said that, you also believe there was, on the prosecution side and the law enforcement side, you also believe there was tampering of evidence and a cover-up. He's nodding his head, but just for audio, you're saying yes to that. Yes, there was planting of evidence, there's proof of that, EDTA in different segments

of the blood on different pieces of evidence, and the glove may have been planted by Mark Furman behind the house. Okay, so now we'll go, now we're gonna go back this moment. So OJ's coming up the walkway from the alley behind, Ron's at the front door talking to Nicole, delivering the glass mom's glasses. Do you, you probably don't know this, but you believe OJ walked up there alone initially,

or is these other one or two men with him as he walks up? OJ tries to say in his book and his confession in Chapter 6 that Charlie followed this guy in. What he's trying to say is that like he goes in first to stalk and look through the windows and I see candles and I hear music. I believe the Charlie and the other gentleman are. with OJ at this time. I don't believe they're like coming from the front and waiting. I think they all come through together through the back. And just to be clear with everybody, it's not in the house. It's in like a foyer,

like a walkway. Walkway, like a courtyard area near the house, correct? So that's what you meant by in. They're not inside the house, they're outside. Okay. And then in your theory, what takes place now in this horrific incident? When they come down, there's stairs. They have to go up and down these. stairs, it's a long walkway. As they come down, they see Ron Goldman

at the front talking to Nicole. They see that, now it's very dark. There's very little lighting there. It's a very small space. I talk about this. Four angry people in a very dark space in a small space. Ron's there. They're

unsuspecting. Nicole's got the menu like she's going to order food. She's barefoot. Obviously, she just came out of the house. He buzzed to come out. He's got the glasses in a white envelope. This was a big piece of the evidence, okay? He's doing that. They're talking.

Here come the bulls in the China shop. What do you got? What's up? They're startled at first. Like, whoa, what's, OJ, what are you doing here? Nicole hates him. So imagine she sees him. I don't know if she sees him holding a knife.

Maybe. He's dressed with the gloves in the hat because they find it there. And there's two other guys or one guy with him. what's going on? You're not supposed to be here at all. Then there's Ron there, and it's just awkward, and a fight begins, an argument. And a gentleman hears this, Robert Heidstra. He hears it, parts of it, cross the street in an alley.

And the prosecution tried to not use them. Like, you'll see all this cover up from the prosecution. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, it's all there. And basically, a fight breaks out. I do believe Nicole swung on OJ. And from that moment, there's no turning back. The other knife being used, I do believe there are two knives. I do.

Through the autopsy, through the evidence, I do believe there's two people doing it. And you believe, maybe just so everyone should just know this, the level of blood that was there. And maybe talk for a second, just so everyone knows how, my understanding is this Ron Goldman young man fought pretty valiantly if there's two or three dudes there. Absolutely. He did. My understanding also is Nicole was nearly decapitated. The wounds were so severe on her. Maybe that's not true. You clarify that.

Yeah, well, they exaggerate the decapitation thing a little bit. Her spine was nicked. Okay. It didn't go through the spine. Okay. A lot of people try to say this. Let's just say it's a nasty slice of the throat. Okay, it's not a decapitation. The Ron is attacked, and yes, he stabbed over 20 times, okay, 25 somewhere in there. He is fighting, has bruising on both his knuckles, all both hands. There's bruising, abrasions. He's obviously punching.

Now, when you look at OJ Simpson, did OJ have any marks on his face? No. So is he punching OJ or is he punching somebody else? Why is there blood from somebody else at the crime scene? Again, more signs that there's someone else involved. Okay. And yes, the blood is everywhere. You know, Nicole's feet are, her bare feet have no blood on them.

There's a little spatter, I think, on maybe a part of her foot, but she's not standing in her blood. Okay. So she's down. She's always down on the ground. Okay. Ron is not really standing in hers either. So I do believe Ron was killed first. She's either knocked out, dazed, one guy's holding her down, right?

He could be hitting her, but the final cut is at the end when she's propped up on the stairs because we have evidence of that, there's a wall of blood coming down a certain step. That's where she has to be. She's up on the stairs. And then her legs are underneath the gate. The gate's only like six inches high. you could not get her legs under there if she's standing up. She has to be laying down.

So he yanks her hair back on the stairwell. How definitive is that there's third party's blood there? Absolutely. There's other blood at the crime scene and in the Bronco 100%. Just in the inch of time, I'd rather just sit in the space for a minute and it's sort of a sacred place where these two beautiful people lost their lives. But we are doing a show here, so we're going to continue to progress through the scene. I've always, you know, just for me personally, wondered this really young stud athletic Goldman guy,

how one dude would be able to kill both of these very athletic people. Not with a gun, but with a knife. You would just think someone could have fleed or something, you know. So it is a compelling idea that there were multiple people there. Now, we know from trial that on the way out, there's these footprints, as I understand it, from these unique shoes that OJ Simpson wears. You can discuss that. But also, are there other footprints leaving the scene that are not OJs?

Yes, there are. There's a 10, 10.5 size parallel line print that Dr. Henry Lee and Barry Sheck talk about. They do a whole testimony on it, circle it. They call it the PLP, which means parallel line. print. It's not OJ's. OJ is a Z shape and he's a 12. They're different shoes. They're not close in size. They're not close in print, period. There's about four of the accomplices shoes, whether those are Charlie's or the other gentleman. I pretty much know who it is, but let's just leave it open. Those are walking to the back also. So you have OJ's shoes, the Bruno Mali, size 12, Z

clear prints. I mean, multiple clear prints. They never found his shoes. That's the problem. They never found these clothes, the shoes. They found the hat and the two gloves, one glove at Rockham, one glove at Bundy. You see what I mean? They didn't find the evidence. So they didn't find the knife or knives, right? So there is, yes, there are shoe prints walking out of to the alley to two sets. Okay. Let's stay on the can't find the evidence thing. I've heard two theories on that. The first theory is that it comes back in his duffel bag and Kardashian walks away from it when they're at the house when OJ comes back. The other theory I've heard is that somebody saw him putting it in a trash can at LAX when he got out of the limo that night. Which of those two or neither do you believe to be why they never found everything? My theory with all of this is the Kardashian bag was a garment bag. There's no. nothing in there.

Okay. Even I think Kim Kardashian said she went through it. I don't know if that's true, but I think I heard that. That's his clothes. Robert Kardashian should never have been allowed to take that. Here's another bumbling by the LAPD. Okay? This man just came back.

He's a murder suspect. Someone's grabbing his luggage. Like, it's insane. It's waterline insane. So now, Skip Junis says, I saw OJ sticking something in the garbage can. What I've done? believe that is, is the towel that OJ used to wipe himself off at the house and possibly his boxer shorts. Okay. That's what he's stuffing in the thing. But look, they said they searched all the

trash cans at LAX. You can look up. They said nothing. So I don't know what he's doing. I do believe Skip Junis. I don't think he's making it up. And OJ didn't want them, Alan Park and Cato to touch this bag. That stuff could be in there. Absolutely. Because look, think of it this way. What's he going to do with the towel after he goes in and he's bloody in his house? He can't leave that towel there. He leaves the socks there, whether those are planted from the hamper. We don't know. They don't see blood on those socks at first. They don't think there's any blood. It comes weeks later. They go, oh, we found Nicole's blood. And then there's a whole drama about that about the LEPD leaked a story with a woman named Tracy Savage because she was sleeping with him.

Like, again, it's just all this, and the stuff didn't even get tested yet. Crazy. It's crazy. In your theory, I suppose potentially this, these other man or other two men, they could have left with the evidence of the clothes. OJ does not take these clothes back to his property. As for the glove, there's a couple theories. Did Mark Furman plant the glove?

Did he take it from the crime scene? Did he put it in the Bronco? first and then when cato says i heard then he goes and oh i'll be right back and then he takes the glove out of the bronco and he puts it behind the house we don't know are there other people jumping the fence when when oj's coming back they're all scrambling back to the property because they're cars there i don't know these are there's a couple things i i don't have the answers too but i like every answer i think it makes the story somewhat more credible let me uh let me parse a couple things here

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Also, because. I'm from that area, you should just let everybody know how close it is back to OJ's house. And then take us through that, how quicks the drive, and then what do you believe takes place next? OJ does drive the vehicle. The one guy or two guys or passengers will say that. He almost hits Jill Shively, crashes through San Vicente, lights off. This is a very famous story. She sees him, gets the license plate.

This is about 10.50 p.m. It's the proper time. It all lines up. They race back lights off, which is insane. I just did this drive yesterday. He drives about two, three minutes to Rockingham, and he's up there, and he parks on a side street. He cannot pull up to the house. He cannot.

OJ's dropped off. Whichever way he comes in, does he come through the front gate? Does he jump the fence? Does he go through the two tennis courts? In his book, he says he comes through the tennis courts around the back of the house. That's what he says. We don't know. Okay. The blood droplets kind of lead from the gate to the house.

He could have come through the front gate, dropped him off there. The Bronco is not parked at all. Okay. It is being held on another street with the evidence in it. OJ comes back quickly, comes in the house. Alan Parks says I saw a six-foot black man dressed on all black clothing. I think it's his skin. I don't think he's dressed.

He's stripped down. He's not seeing him in any clothes. Okay, maybe black boxers and black. Limo driver, everybody. The limo driver, Alan Park. Very key witness, as was Cato Caelin, because they're together when OJ reenters the house. Literally, he sees Cato at the same time he sees OJ in the driveway.

He won't say OJ, though. He keeps saying a six-foot black man. So that's something he has to address the rest of his life. Okay. And OJ rushes in, then he's still. buzzing at the gate and he find the answers and said, oh, I overslept. I'll be right down. Showering. I don't even know if he showers. He says he took a shower. To me, I think he just cleans up. I don't think he showers. They do find blood in the sink drain, but not in the pipe, supposedly, whatever.

In the bathroom sink drain, they find a blood. I think he doesn't have time to shower. So he's, racing to dry himself off, put on a band-aid to his cut left-middle finger, right? And now he's coming down like nothing happened. Actor mode. He's a little out of breath. They talk about that, a little sweaty, like, look like he's a little frazzled. And then he starts loading the limousine. The limous pulls away, and that's when the Bronco comes back in this park when they're gone.

So these guys were in the Bronco. Just because you said blood, I just want to. ask you two blood questions because it's evidence whose blood was found in his sink and whose blood was eventually found in the bronco oj's blood is found in the sink okay what about the bronco the bronco all of their blood now watch ron nicole oj and the other accomplice there's four different blood samples the steering wheel serum column is oj tells you this in his ross becker interview he says there was blood on the steering wheel that didn't come back to me, Ron or Nicole. I offer whose blood was that? Because he's trying to tell you. He knows through all the evidence. And this

was after he was acquitted so he could speak. You know what I mean? He could tell you now. That was the first interview. It's a fascinating interview. People should watch the Ross Becker interview. And there's a BET one he does, one in England. He does a few over the years. And he tells you And then he tells you, and if I did it, he had help. You just didn't want to believe him. And the media was somewhat forced to block the story. Why is the media forced to block the story? In 2006, because the Goldman's, when OJ does the book in the interview,

the Goldman's gets so mad. They write Rupert Murdoch and Fox, and Rupert fires Judith Regan and shelves the interview. The book is kind of shelved, but it kind of, that comes out, but that interview has never seen for 12 years. Remember that. Okay. So I guess we should go to, now he's in Chicago. They call him back.

It is important because not everybody knows these details. You referenced it earlier. He has a pretty significant wound on him. And what's the story for where this wound came from? Because he had to come up with this explanation for that. And he's, I mean, he's still bleeding. If you look at the photo, when he comes back 12 hours later, it's over 12 hours after the murders, he is still bleating.

He is still bleeding. It's crazy. It's on his left middle finger. Now, there's two theories. Mark Furman thought the dog bit him. That's viable, right? The dog's barking. The dog witnesses the murders.

The dog's name was Cato, named after Cato Cajolin. The doctor says these are glass shards, okay? Hizanga, who is OJ's doctor. There's a couple little cuts there. And OJ says he broke the glass in the sink in Chicago, so that's where he says it comes from. What I believe happened is he is hit with a knife on his finger, whether it's himself or it's the other assailant. When they're swinging, his hand is either on Ron's neck or grabbing his hair and he gets popped. That's what I believe that is.

It just is a, in the interest of protecting everybody involved here, you said earlier that you're, you're 90% sure these two guys are involved, but you're 100% sure at least one of them is involved with them. And I know this is obvious, but I just want to take this for the record, because this is your story, it's not mine. You're 100% sure about OJ's involvement. 100%.

So he gets back, we'll go to the house just really quick again and put a bow on this. OJ gets back to the house. The theory is Cato says he hears a thump on the guest house that he's in, right? That's weird to me. But I've always thought that was odd. The signal, because the way Cato says it, in the very beginning, he makes a noise like, oh, somebody hit the wall and it was like, then when he's in the trial, he goes,

he makes it very deliberate as if someone's signaling that him. Now, whether he's thinking straight, I don't know. He messes up a couple times in the trial, like, well, the lights were off. Oh, no, they were on. He's like, he's trying to help OJ like he's. He doesn't know what to say. So he's trying to give different answers. I believe, I think OJ came behind the house and signaled for Cato to come out.

I could be wrong. He's not crashing in any air conditioner. OJ knows the property, like the back of his hand. He's not crashing in anything. I think he's saying to come out and distract the limousine driver. I can't prove it. Cato will not talk to me. He will not address it at all.

So I'm sticking with that for now. That's a signal. It could be A or B, bump or signal. Okay. So just a couple of things have always bothered me about this whole story. This is compelling what you're saying. And if this evidence you've described as accurate, it's mind-blowing that the world doesn't know this.

It's mind-blowing that they got through an entire, the most public trial in the history of our country. and that many of these things, the first time most human beings are hearing this is right now, that's mind-blowing to me, number one. Number two, there was little parts of everything that just always thought, I thought, I'll be candid. I thought OJ did it, right? But I was around that, so I saw it. But this idea of the glove not fitting, you know, if it doesn't fit, you must have quit.

That part to me never bugged to me. What bugged me was, how the heck does one glove end up at OJ's house? that just seems weird to me. It bizarre. Can you address your thing? I have two thoughts on it. One, how's he bringing one club over there, right? There's a part of me is like, there's no way that's true.

But then there's another part of him that thinks, in the heat of the moment, Furman's not going to take a glove and plant it because he's not 100% sure OJ did it. So why would you then go hide or move evidence that early, not even knowing you got the right guy, not knowing what happened, you could lose your entire career by putting that glove there, maybe unnecessarily. So both of those sort of just, I don't, I can't get my mind around it. There's two theories. I'm going to give you both and I'm going to leave a little cliffhanger for these other guys

to do their theory because there's some other people working on this right now that are bringing up some good points about how that glove got back there. The first theory is the Stephen's singular theory, which was legacy of deception. He was instrumental. He was a reporter from Colorado, had a source, said, you need to look at the glove, the blood, the bag, and the stick.

And he wrote a book called Legacy of Deception. He told the prosecution softly, they wanted nothing to do with them. He went to the defense. He says Mark Furman takes the glove from the crime scene and puts it in the Bronco. Okay?

He knows OJ's involved. He knows he is. He knows it's Nicole. He knows where he is. He lies and says, oh, I didn't know it was Nicole until like six in the morning. He knew exactly who it was. They saw the pictures of OJ in the house. They knew who it was. Mark Furman as a history of planting evidence, okay, period. Provable, end of story, did crazy things. He made the Mark Furman tapes. He talked about this. Then he tried to backfill and said, oh, it was all for a movie. Okay, sure. This is the theme of everybody. They're all got like.

like two, they're always flip-flopping. Okay. So he says, he puts it in the Bronco first, it leaves it in there. When he interviews Cato and Cato goes, I heard something. I was there an earthquake. I heard something back on my wall. Mark Furman leaves them for 15 minutes and nobody knows where Mark Furman is. Even Van Adder and Lang and I think Ron Phillips is there, they're not, they don't know where Furman is. They're still with Arnell and Cato. Furman disappears for 15 minutes. That's why F. Lee Bailey and the other lawyers, they try to say every minute, what's he doing?

Steven Singular's theory is he goes to the Bronco. He has a stick that he pulled from a fence. He picks up the glove, whether he has it an evidence bag, or he just walks it in the back and drops it there. And he puts it there. Now, that's the first theory. Okay. The second theory is a new set of people are working on that they believe. leave, I don't want to say too much, they believe that glove falls out of something, not by

OJ doing that, that someone else dropped it. That's up to them. I need to leave that open. I can't talk too much about it. I just don't know. The glove being there is one of the more bizarre parts of the entire trial to me. No, it makes me crazy. Yeah, me too. And at the same time, I'm thinking, Furman's taken a pretty huge risk doing that that night, not in knowing all of the elements. You have to listen to the Furman tapes. He planted evidence on other men before. Marsha Clark knew he was a cop.

They knew they warned her. Don't use them. Remember what Stephen Singular is saying, and I knew Stephen, he passed away. What he's trying to say is Mark wants to be in the center of the case. So what better way for him to find the glove? Okay. He ejects himself right into it.

Why is a couple things. By the way, this is just fascinating and thank you for the information. I don't have. And the sad thing is, the funny thing is, see, you don't know about this because the media is blocking the story. That's why you don't know. Even though I've been screaming from the mountaintop for five years and their stuff at all the major outlets. And they refuse to tell the story. Why, though?

So everything I always look at is like, okay, why would Furman put the glove over there? realistically. Why did they not pay attention to the blood evidence at the scene? Why would the media now, 30 years later, why would they block this? Or they just not believe it? Do they just make it? Part of it. As simple as they don't believe it. We could give them partially that out, right? We could say, hey, they don't believe Chris Todd. They don't believe this Charlie guy. Problem is, did you talk to Charlie? Did you do any investigation? Because if you did, you'd see it. See, I'm not calling them lazy. What I'm saying, and I used other people to do it, not just me, because I had to prove they're not just mad at me.

They blocked everybody else, too, all of them. They blocked them all. I believe what they're doing is it's a paradigm. They don't want to change it, right? It's kind of like JFK. You got the museums. They don't want to change Lee Harvey Oswald. So if you say, oh, I know who the shooter was on the grassy, no.

They don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. So, and this goes to the truth. And I talk about Copernicus and the stories of, you know, when people speak a truth, I'm not going to say Jesus. That's way out of my league. But when they speak a truth that nobody wants an inconvenient truth, they shun it. They get rid of it.

So it's not a weird, it's not that weird. You know what I mean? Inconvenient truth is your leading mirror, I want to go. I don't want to go into the trial because, you know, I've done enough reading on the trial about, you know, I even after jury solicit. election. I don't think OJ was going to be convicted. I don't think, I think the legal team was tremendous. Chris Darden seems like a nice guy. Marcia, you have your theories about them. I don't even want to cover that. It looked like the deck was stacked. And obviously, I think even in retrospect,

Marcia or Darden would probably tell you they'd do some things differently for sure. I've actually seen Chris Darden say that. I want to go after the trial. So there's obviously, most people don't know this, but there's a civil trial afterwards, because most people think, OJ was innocent, he got off. Or it wasn't innocent, but he was found. Right, he was acquitted, right? Well, yeah, but then there was a civil trial. Why don't you just refresh everybody's memory what happened there? Because this is valid.

And then on top of that, Chris, why would he then do these interviews and write a book if I did it? What was his motivation for doing it? Was it just money? Why did he do it? So talk about the civil and also OJ would even afterwards do all this, which is bizarre. The civil trial, he is found guilty, the preponderance of evidence, 51% whatever you want to say. He does long depositions. He speaks.

He sings for days. They got him in there for like seven, eight days in the deposition. He's wearing his different sweaters. You can see by the different days by his clothing. He's there forever. He's talking. You can't pinch him. One of his lawyers told them not to talk.

And he said, no, I'm going to. And I know the lawyer personally, he's a good guy. He told them, don't say a word. Let's just go to it. But OJ tried to talk himself out of it, and he lost. So that was a $33 million judgment for the Browns and the Goldman's together that he was found responsible for their murders. He never paid a dime.

What he did was they liquidated some of his stuff. and I'm going to call out one of his friends right now. They got about 300 grand from things in his house. You know what OJ's friends decided to do? They decided to take the real jerseys and switch them with fake jerseys and rubbed dirt on them and pretend they were the jerseys and grab footballs and scuff them up in the driveway and then pretend those were the real ones.

And then that guy stole all the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're disturbing. Everybody around OJ is a scumbag. anyone that ever interacted him with him after the murders was a scumbag period end of story i can prove it 20 different ways from sunday so it's disturbing like he never pays he goes i won't work i won't work okay now now let's move on he does interviews right away ross becker bang they probably paid him a million dollars i don't know how much they paid him he did b et he flew out to england

He did Judy Finnegan. He did that one. He does others. Ruby Wax. He does Chris Myers with ESPN. He wants to talk to you. He wants to talk. Nicole, he always joke about it.

There he goes again. Large head talking again. He was a talker. And look, I will never be on a level of OJ's popularity. I brought up myself from nothing. I've had some notoriety. It's addictive. It is.

When I'm not, sometimes I'm like, oh, man, I've got to get back to those levels I was a few years ago. You want to go back. And I knew OJ would come forward eventually. And he did 12 years later in 2006. He decided to tell his story. And he did. He just didn't say Charlie's last name. He told you there's an accomplice.

You didn't listen. You didn't want to believe him. And then nobody investigated this. It was easily investigated, easily. So if I did it, the book that OJ wrote, I believe is what it's called, and it was a poll. You believe that that is an actual confessional, not some parody or novel. That is a cryptic confession. And all he does is say, this is purely hypothetical.

And when he does that, if you really look at his face, you could tell he's lying. It's not hypothetical. Now, whether the Charlie guy represents both of the guys or the Charlie. guy represents, it's a fake name for the other gentleman, like they're blaming each other and they don't want to say his real name. Charlie's a term like, Charlie don't serve. You know, Charlie Company. It's a term. Okay. So it's not like that has to be a person, right? People thought it was OJ's alter ego. That's what they really thought it was. That's what Darden says. I think Charlie's OJ. And look, he's not wrong. It's not a bad thought. But my question and challenges to all of you is, why

didn't you look at it? If he said it in 06 and he wrote it in a book, why didn't you investigate every single Charlie he knew? Why didn't you look at every piece of evidence again? Why not? That's why OJ says too. This was the greatest murder case in history. Why didn't they really look at it? I find it curious. There'll never be another OJ again. He was a genius. And I hate to say it like that. What he did on this afterwards is complete brilliance. Okay, not in a good way, but a lot of brilliant people are sometimes evil. And again, everybody, just from my audience, you know, this is Chris's evidence. I haven't been able to validate whether there was multiple blood at the scene and the footprints and all of that.

But I've seen enough of this and just, in all candor, if my honest is wondering why I did it. I've had, I protect them too, but there's a significant person in OJ's, legal team that I had some very late night extended wine with. Oh, okay. Cool. Many of the things that Chris is saying I had heard elsewhere. That's just what I'll leave at. And so that doesn't mean it's accurate.

I'm not pulling the two things together. I'm just telling you that I wouldn't have had Chris on if it was the first time I had heard any of these things. Now, some of the things Chris says, it's the first time I've heard them. but some of them aren't and I'll just kind of leave it at that let me ask you a question I've always been fascinated with with what it would be like to be O.J. Simpson now the rest of my life after I know I've likely killed these two human beings and I'm wondering if you have any insight or information how did he live out the rest of his life I mean we know he went to jail and all that again but did he carry guilt did he ever share with people privately how he felt? Like, what's the profile on this guy as he's aging and facing mortality? Do you have any insight into anything about him at that point? Absolutely.

I know people that knew him personally over the years. I knew a couple different PIs that knew them. Family members, I've spoken to a lot of people from this case. You know, if you look at OJ right after the acquittal, he used to talk to people outside his house at Rockingham, eating a donut. He didn't care. this is a narcissist. He's happy.

He's not paying child support anymore. He's not paying alimony if he says he never had alimony, whatever. He doesn't have that headache. Yeah. Is he go to bed at night sad that the mother of his children is gone? Probably, I'm sure he's human, right? But he kept living normal. Now, supposedly, he had a reality show.

He did a graphic video with a woman that he ripped the cameras out of the room. This is a funny story that day. They offered him a million dollars to do a adult movie. He showed up, classic OJ, and said, yeah, I'm going to do it. And he ripped the cameras out of the room. And they had the audio only. And so he, I think OJ became a criminal after this, right? He started to hang out with all these hustler types.

The Vegas robbery happens. He's with a bunch of creepy guys. They're bringing guns. To rob what? Football's in jerseys and a picture of Nicole. Why do you need a gun? You don't. They robbed Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Frommon, who you could push over with your two fingers,

okay? Like, there's no need. I think he was lost. I think he was cursed by what he did, right? And I've seen mediums talk about Nicole punishing him and sending the Christy Prody was the Nicole lookalike. She looked exactly like Nicole. Look at OJ's girlfriend. It's creepy.

I mean, very serious. similar and she was they both were into drugs and she's off the rails and he you know he also had hit money he was given deals he had an internet show he was going to do he was one of the first people to do an internet show if you look it up on mn1 so he was living his life hiding money not giving it to the goldman's and the browns people would put his house in a different name nothing was in his name somebody gave him a bentley like there's all this stuff so So he, I think, did the best he could to make as much money as he could. He had a pension, $20,000 a year, a month.

So, but I think he was always haunted. And he told people over the years, I should have just got on my plane. He tells Jeff Felix in jail, two drug dealers came to my house the night of the murders, too. Jeff writes it in the book. I met Jeff, and he also tells it in the Ed Opperman interview. Go listen to it, people. So OJ was telling us, no one can keep that secret. Come on. No one can. And even people close to OJ, they couldn't keep the secret either. They've called me at midnight threatening me, saying a bunch of stuff. And then I catch them lying about the evidence and they hang up. And, you know, I basically, look, I beat these people. I beat the dream team. And I'm not saying it in an arrogant way. It's just the truth. I beat all these people. I beat him. I met Barry Sheck. I met Bob Blazier. Shapiro said a nice thing about me once.

Chris Darden sent me nasty texts. I beat all of you. It doesn't matter. Now, did I get lucky? Was I in the right place at the right time? Sure, a little bit. Well, so was Gary Webb. So was Woodward and Bernstein. Okay. So that's just my piece. And I'm glad you let me kind of say it this way. Well, I'm glad I again, I just wanted to audience. You make up your own mind. I just asked the questions today. The ones that I have I would hope that many of you would ask. The other thing I want to say, too, about Chris is this is not, like, you know, his first rodeo. And so he's done work on the Kurt Cobain situation that you guys can go get. You want to tell him about that.

And also, Biggie Smalls as well, that's a fascinating case. Like, you're, you picked the biggies after this OJ thing. So tell him a little bit about the work you're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm doing John Bonae Ramsey right now, and people can watch my interview. on Cinemales TV. I have a lot of my interviews over there. The Biggie, I did a Biggie Deep Dive interview.

I do believe that is a fake news story about the killer. I do believe those killers are still alive on Biggie Smalls, and I do believe I can prove it. That's been censored again. Most of my stuff gets kind of censored. It's not a pity party. I'm just telling you facts, period. I helped a guy who witnessed Kurt Cobain get murdered.

His name is Joseph Burns. He had the courage to come forward and to tell his story of what he saw that night. And that's called Too Kurt I'm Sorry. And I encourage people to reward him for his courage and his bravery. And Kirk Cobain did not commit suicide. That story also, the media has repeatedly blocked me for the last two and F years. And that's okay. Like I said, I'm not, I'm going to get them out. I will beat them. They're not going to stop me. Okay. And the book is selling okay, but there's no real press about it yet.

So I encourage your readers to check out if you like that. Now remember, Kirk Cobain, his death was two months before OJ's case. So these are both in 1994. And Kurtz was brushed under the rug because OJ happened in June, Kurtz was in April. So it's fascinating. And Biggies was in 97. So it's kind of, yeah. It can be a little old, by the way. But I got to tell you, in the audience, everybody, you make up your own mind.

I just wanted to have the interesting story around today. I think you'd agree with me that there's enough in here that was worthy of at least a conversation. And it certainly is, it fills in some gaps if you believe what Chris is saying. And if you don't, I asked you the questions and you've come to your conclusion. But either way, Chris, I know you've taken a lot of arrows over the work you do and very grateful that you take the time to share your work with us, your beliefs. And I'd at least want to leave it open where you can send people where to find you. Because everything about Chris is sort of like hidden because he's a PI.

But where can they go and find anything you wanted to find about you or your work? Yeah, sure. Yeah. And I really appreciate it. God bless you and everything you do. and most of my books are on a website called silvercoastprose.com, P-R-O-S, like professionals, silvercoastprose.com. And then I invite people to write me.

One of my emails is hopscotch-free, 101 at Gmail, just hop-scotch-free, all one word, and then the number's 101 at Gmail. And there's other ways. My phone number's online. my door is always open. Anyone can contact me. I always respond to people. And I'm grateful for the people that have helped me.

I usually have one or two civilian types on every case I have. And I want to give a shout out to those people a little bit for helping me over the years. So, yeah, God bless your show. And I give a lot of glory to what I've done and the gifts I've been given to God and Jesus. And I want to thank you for that opportunity. I bless you, brother. Hey, everybody. Told you be an interesting hour.

Not like the normal hour. This is a different path today. And I bet you're talking about it. I bet you share this one with your spouse, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, your girlfriend. Let's have a conversation about it. It's worth it. It's one of the most important moments, most compelling moments in American history of the last 50 years.

And this sheds some new light, at least for some people. All right, everybody. God bless you. This is the Edmunds show.