THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Built For the Grind W/ Gary Vee

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

*** This episode includes language that may not be suitable for children. You Only Get One Life... Make it Count! This is one of the most anticipated and most requested interviews of all time! I've been asking you all who you would like to see next on the Ed Mylett Show and I heard you! My guest today has become one of the MOST influential entrepreneurs and marketing minds in the world! Most recently he helped start the popular "All In Challenge" and has raised over $13M to help feed those in need during this unprecedented pandemic. Get ready for a mind-blowing interview with Gary Vaynerchuk! Make sure you are ready to take notes as this interview is FULL of golden nuggets that you can use to increase your productivity and optimize the quality of your entire life! Gary and I dive deep into how to create a life that leads to happiness AND financial success. We talk about how to create and optimize your MOMENTUM and break down what it REALLY means to hustle! We share tips on how to overcome DOUBT, lack of MOTIVATION and how to truly LOVE the life you live. For the business people out there, Gary drops his forecast on what he thinks will be the next big wave in technology and where marketers and entrepreneurs should be focusing their energy. I’ve never met anyone who loves life the way this man does. His life isn’t just about him or the money but it's about HAPPINESS, KINDNESS, and COMPASSION for others! In this interview, Gary breaks down how you can be selfish and selfLESS at the same time and achieve beyond your wildest dreams AND how you can use this COVID-19 pandemic as a catalyst to create the greatest force for GOOD in the world! This interview is PACKED with so much wisdom I can’t even explain it all in this caption. It will fill you with hope and empower you to TAKE ACTION despite anything standing in your way!

This is the Edmirelet Show. Welcome back to Max out everybody. My guest today needs no introduction. You know, there's this list of people you all demand to have on the show. And there's this running list of three or four people that come up every single time. People have wanted to see Gary and I together, and finally, it's happening in a very interesting time. So my guest today is Gary D.

Gary, thank you for being here, brother. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Probably the most influential entrepreneur in the world when it comes to digital and social media. And I think one of the reasons that I enjoy you and your content, because I'm a grown man, I'm almost 50 years old, you're a grown man. I see your heart grow more than just your brilliance.

You're obviously, it's so much experience and so much brilliance, but that's not, and I appreciate that, but it's your heart. I see how much you care about the people that you interact with, whether it's just on the street or at one of your heart. I see how much you care about the people that you interact with, whether it's just on the street or at one of your events. That's what I think makes you special. That's what I hope I have as well. But speaking of that, you're writing that lane right now with this all-in challenge during this time. We're recording this everyone during the Corona crisis. If you're listening or watching at this time. So it's gone all over the planet. I mean, I just looked this morning. Joe Montana is in now, right? There's all these

tell us about it. What's going on with that? Michael Rubin, who's also a big time entrepreneur, very successful part owner of Sixers, founder of fanatics.com, a good friend started it two days in. He's like, wait, this could be really big. Reach is out. Says, hey, you want to be a part of this? I'm like, yes. So me and the VaynerMedia machine from a marketing standpoint got behind it. Basically what it is is we've reached out to celebrities, athletes, people of culture who we think can demand a real big check. Very honestly, we have a humongous ambition. When you're trying to, you know, let let's take even a step back before going to what it is. There's a real issue right now with the food supply chain

in America. There's a lot of people hungry. People take for granted how people get fed in this country. And so you've got a lot of kids who rely on school lunch. You've got a lot of elderly that rely on wheels on wheels and things that nature. So, you know, no kid hungry feeding America's food fun and others are the beneficiaries, 100% by this. What happens when Justin Timberlake and Bill Murray are willing to play golf with you and Pebble Beach and have dinner? What does that go for in an auction?

Mark Cuban put up, you actually signing, this is something for you and I had, actually signing a one day MBA contract and actually being put in the game. Oh, what? Yes, like last five seconds, like just like real crazy stuff. I'm trying to do that.

Leo DiCaprio and Scorsese, putting you in their film and you get to have to do that. Leo DiCaprio and Scorsese putting you in their film and you get to have a speaking line. So as of Saturday morning, we just crossed the $10 million mark. We've reached $10 million in less than a week. We're really excited about it and you can get in for 10 bucks a raffle ticket

and you can get in for some of the baller stuff. So please check that out. We're exactly to the go, Gary. All in challenge.com. Okay, all in challenge.com. You guys, I've never seen anything like this. Stuff is unbelievable. And if you don't have the cheddar to, you know,

drop the big number on the deal, get some raffle tickets and get involved in it too. Cause you're making a difference in this time where so many people are really. Co-host the Ellen show with Ellen. You know what I like? I like that there's gonna be a lot of people that get it. You know, being Meg the Stallion's music video,

hang out with Drake all day, like get flown on his airline, like just a people will fly to your home and serenade you. This is real. We're not joking right now. Like, like, you know, there's just, be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. You get to, you probably know this from your man, Michael Shrehan,

full day with him, spend the whole day with him. This is the single greatest experience and item auction, maybe of all time. Oh, no, of all time, no question time. And so, and it's still happening, the me goes, Tony Hawk, just looking at it right now, pink, like being Kevin Hart's movie, like this one will resonate for a lot of people.

You know, make a TikTok with Charlie and Dixie DeMillio. Like, so there's like real interesting stuff. And so it's a really great cause. I'm really, I'm actually pretty interesting. I'm on the board of charity water and pencil to promise. I'm very comfortable self-promoting. I'm very comfortable for one of my. I'm very comfortable promoting my businesses. I've historically up to this point been quite quiet

when it comes to my nonprofit work, even occasionally back in the day, like somebody called me out and I met them at a Starbucks and showed them my tax return. Because I wanted the kid to learn that like, people are keyboard warriors. You know, let's transition. We'll go back to all and challenge later

to remind everybody, because I really want everybody's listening on.. Let's transition. We'll go back to all in challenge later to remind everybody because I really want everybody's listening on. But let's transition, knowing your audience, knowing mine. We're about to go through the greatest era of exposing fake entrepreneurs, because we were just living in it. And that's not a razz, just a reality. The call I just had right before you was looking at a business

which is direct to consumer business. That looks like it's dominating on Instagram. The founder looks like she's dominating. I just look, they're out of business next week and I'm looking at potentially buying it, right? So, we're, we're, what's really interesting is just like charity work, just like politics, just like anything else, we've lived through this incredible year of keyboard warriors, right Ed? And so, you know, we have the benefit, we got lucky. The 22-year-old versions of us probably

would have been keyboard warriors at some level as well, but this all kind of popped off after we did things and learned things. And so, I'm hopeful, there's a lot of bad going on. The deaths are undescribable through this. We've lost 22 million jobs in four weeks, which is how many we've gained since the Great Recession in 2010 to 2020. So everything that we've gained through this crazy era from a job standpoint has been given back. And so it's good.

Listen, it's gonna be an interesting time. Over and out. Please. Please. One of the things, first off, I'd completely agree with you, the exposure of the fake entrepreneur because we just came out of that space. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. people want to know what you think we're going into. Are we going into a quick recession? Do you think it's a sudden depression? You think that you? I think it's a recalibration. Honestly, my biggest hope and why I want to get loud, and I want others to get loud about, is like, let's get out of this more humble and more practical. Let's do that.

Listen to that. you know this, and you run in these circles, you know, that's how I'm aware of you. Like, and I watch everything, and you watch everything, people watch everything, like, you know, alpha male winners love to flash.

It's just, you know, it's leveraged for girls, it's leveraged for fun, it's like, you know, I, and listen, I don't, you know, a lot of my friends are like stop demonizing lambo I'm like I'm not demonizing it right but there's children who are watching Who are gonna go into really sad places? Mm-hmm. They're gonna do they're gonna do bad things to themselves or others because they're gonna thirst it so much and when they get there

They're not gonna like it as much as they think they're not one. It's one of the things that's very similar about you and I, I think maybe a little bit of his experience because we're both done very well financially. And I tell that line, man, it's hard for me too, because I don't want to poo poo somebody wants to someday have a jet. Like if that's something you think you want to aspire to and that's a benchmark. That's you. That's great. But I know because I have one, that I don't flash it, that I'm telling you straight up, if you think that's gonna fill some bucket of happiness within you, you are way off the mark.

Like maybe for a week, you know, and then, or that Ferrari or whatever it is. I love that about your content. It's difficult, because I think sometimes people take you and I so literally about that fact, like, well, then why achieve anything? That's not what we're saying. And I think I started talking about it loud and aggressively

during a time where that was the counter tab, everything that was going on. So it was interesting. I was curious what was going to happen. I really felt some sort of weird, it was a really weird, like I could feel it bubbling up a couple years ago. I'm like, fuck, I need to do this. I also knew it was going to be like not land like with a lot of people. I knew it was also going to put some press strength of my friends. So the quates says, it's every, my big thing is this, you could have anything you want first of all, because who am I or who's anybody else? Do you? Come up. Just ask yourself why. or who's anybody else, do you? Comment, just ask yourself, why? Are you so insecure that you need the logo of the BMW

or the table at a club? Or what do you need that for affirmation of others? Or do you actually enjoy actually the taste of alcohol, the speed of a car? The, you know, it's funny, I even have to be careful the other way. I would almost over corrected and like subconsciously on purpose didn't fly private a couple of years, forever.

And then I just started becoming, that became stupid because it was impractical for the value of my time. You know what, it's funny you say that I had a really interesting experience I want to tell you because if you're so right, I thought for a long time this isn't part of my identity, I like it because the car is nice or whatever. And I was about 40 and I flew into Atlanta and I had to get a rental car. There was nothing but beaters left. And I got in this kind of beater rental car and I'm driving and I realized in that moment, I felt, this is no joke, I'd done pretty well,

I'd made some money and I'm in this car and myself confidence, honestly, in my body was lower. It was lower. I was like, you idiot, you've literally tied some of your self-esteem to what all these other people think about what you're driving, one second after you're driven by, they can't see you anymore.

And it was a wake up call, even for me, Mr. Evol, Mr. Kim, and people at Lice, I'm like, even you. Well, I have that. We all have that. One of the greatest things about getting some attention and admiration is I'm not worried about that part because I'm in a fucking cocoon.

And I think, I think, you know, even kind of like jamming for three minutes before this, like you know this about me, like I'm a little bit weird in comparison to everybody. I'm a little bit in my own fucking weird cocoon, you know, and but even for me, you know, like realizing that I wasn't candorous enough. Like that, I was like, what is my flaw?

Because I'm like fuck you. Like you know, things start happening. I like countering, I like always staying in the middle. So like as soon as things started really popping off two or three years ago, I'm like, okay, fuck you dude. Like I understand you're on the verge of like everybody thinking you're the best. Why don't we actually take this energy

and go the other way? What do you suck at? And the reality is I lacked candor. I hate negativity and tension so much that as a leader in my company, I would be around the bush when somebody sucked. It really, Ed, used took the words out of my fucking mouth. When people work at Vayner, they're stunned how soft the culture is because, you know,

back to how you open this. A lot of people listening right now, even when we started this interview, actually don't like me because I have a lot of aggressiveness in my content. Plus, I poke at zits, right? I poke at things that people don't want me because I have a lot of aggressiveness in my content. Plus, I poke at zits, right? I poke at things that people don't want me to poke at. So I understand why you then, I think I've done a better job. That is just a truth. But I also think over time it becomes more obvious, you know, I'm so humbled by you saying you're humanity, you're heart. I think that's become a little bit more obvious at scale. It's extremely obvious to the

thousand people that work at Vayner so much so, and this is devastating, because for my audience, I think I'm incredible at accountability, but at Vayner, I would argue six, seven years ago, I created 70, like it wasn't 50, 50, accountability, and you know, and merit and kindness and all, like it was 70 to like, to the lack of accountability over coddling, because I love being a leader, and I I'm like Fuck it. I'm gonna put on my back. I wasn't like we're managing

But all of the driven stress which then for upper middle management became Cush Yes, it was kindness. It was kindness over results. That's when I released something called the honey empire Yes, I started talking about that internally. And over the last 18 months, I've done a lot better. And I'm really excited to be the 50, 54, 64-year-old version of me. Because what I have to worry about is actually not being over-cottling, which on my content, I'm a dominant force on candor, and bring a lot of people like, quote unquote, the tough love. In the people I manage directly, so indirectly,

on a podcast with you on stage, I can go that route. Directly, one on one, it breaks my heart too much. I don't give a fuck about money enough. And so I go into kind of therapist kind or brother over coddler. So it's been really fun. When you say, and I appreciate you sharing, which inspired me to share right now, you're like, fuck, I'm, I've never had that. Like, I'm,

like, I'm zero at that. Like, my want to own anything, to flex on somebody, to create a perception is zero, because my, my external validation meter, through, by the way, pure luck. Like, what's called, what is, when my parents had sex and how my parents raised me and where I was raised, right? Like pure luck, circumstantial. But I'm so grateful. And I think back to high school, my ability to be friends with the most popular kids and the biggest nerds,

my best friend who runs Wine Library, Brandon Warnicki, was far from popular in high school. And I left popularity on the table in high school because I needed to be friends with Brandon. And I would argue high school, maybe this single hardest half decade to kind of have that level of humility. So like real life now, piece of cake.

I don't need to walk into the club and have a watch or necklace or what have you. First of all, that was never part of my culture. I just worked every day. But even the once-to-blue moon scenarios were that. I used to go to jet games, and because I had so many buddies that wanted to go to a jet game, I used to trade my good seats. Literally go to my good seats, give the people,

we would go up to the upper deck for big games, because my friends couldn't afford it time. And I would go with my good seats, and try to trade with the people that were sitting there, because I'd rather sit together with my friends in the upper bowl than that's just always who I've been. So that comes natural. So anyway, that's the energy I'm trying to bring

because what Instagram has done is it's amplified truth. Instagram hasn't fucked us, socially it hasn't fucked us. It's exposed us. We've always wanted to look the part versus be the part. That's why people have bought homes that are bigger and cars that are bigger and closed that are bigger. Long before there was social, you cared for your neighbor to see that you had a Mercedes when they had a Toyota. Like that's always been the case and I want people to be, I want people to get out of that fucking mindset. Well, the reason I'm glad you say that because I think people that just scroll

through social or would see you And probably me at some points to wouldn't know that and what's interesting because you and I know a bunch of successful entrepreneurs And this is a great lesson The cut-throat do it for show do it for flash or even beat other people type entrepreneur all the time They don't always sustain success the people that I know that have had success over decades, that have won the long game, have an approach more like what you've just described. They have empathy, they have concern for people, they care. I, ironically too, I'm this sort of intense dude.

I am the worst still to this day at one-on-one confrontation. I'm okay on stage, I can kind of blow up a room. What is being you and I gotta go, hey, I'm disappointed in you, you're seeing. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's the, you know, I used to think it was the value of money. Now I've realized it comes at the cost of the other A players.

So I've changed my tune a little bit more. I didn't mind that it came out of my cost. Because I'm just so grateful for my process. I'm, you know, I'm starting to realize, oh my God, I'm way more obsessed with the process that I am with the trophies that come from it. Like, I always wish that I was given the, there's a part of me that always wishes

that I had the athletic ability because I would have been a Hall of Fame athlete. I just know it. It's the obsession of the game. What are your work ethic, Gary? If we look back to the 25 year old you, I've always wanted to, I've wanted to sub out you. You and I, our content lines up very similarly,

except we knew once one thing differently. And I want to talk about it. So, 25 year old Gary. So here's, I look at you, and I'm gonna ask you about time management in a minute too, but I look at you. You have a big life. Your life is big, and you're,

I, people at Nobles will say, hey man, sometimes it's a five minute meeting for them. I'm like, that's so ironic. I run four minute meetings, because it's just like, there's only so many hours of the day. We got to get to the point. It's not that I don't want to hear from you. It's like, I got to create a culture of this too of speed and efficiencies. So I look at you and one of the things, I just deduce things I see in people, I go, that's why, that's why, that's why. The number one thing with you is your empathy and kindness and concern for people number two thing

I notice God given and worked on talent to articulate. That's just be real There's this thoughts come from this brain through that mouth. It's a gift or a talent I'd like to think I have some of that too. I see that the next thing I see Work ethic. I see a dude who's busting it I know that you're not putting on Instagram when you're napping But I'm watching your life. It's a big life. If I went back to the 25 year old guy,

working a mom and dad's business, if you were still there then, same thing, like just crazy. I'll break it down for you. That's the year 2000. I get out of school in May of 98 and 2000. So 2000 was a huge year because may of 98 I come in. So since 14, I go into the dad's like,

Christopher 14, at 17, 18, 16, 17, 17, at 17, I'm like, I'm gonna do this. I hate school. I love my fucking parents more than breathing. I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna fucking build a monster. Now, this is 1996. Oh, this is 1996, oh this is actually, excuse me, this is 1993, family businesses in 1993 looked like this.

I'm gonna go work for my dad, build a $100 million business, this is kind of what I'm thinking, and one day he'll die and I'll inherit it. Slash, I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna fucking dominate, build a huge monster, and then maybe I'll inherit it. Yeah. Slash, I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna fucking dominate, build a huge monster, and then maybe I'll bounce at some point, start my own thing. Okay. So, 20-year-old Gary is now super pent up, right?

Because like, you know, let me give you, I'm gonna really give it to you then, because I first of all, I've obsessed with how well you mapped those three data points. So kudos to you. Because that's super uncomfortably on. Nineteen year old Gary is calling his mom from Mount Ida College, ship college, I'm playing Matt and all day and just fucking hustling in like the hood college.

I'm in and I call my mom, you know, 11 p.m. once every nine months. So one at, you know, three times every two years, crying about, I can't go into dad's business because nobody will give me credit because I'm a superstar. And if I start here, I'll never get the credit. I deserve even though I know what I'm gonna do mom. At that point, I knew what I was gonna do.

I'm gonna come and build a huge business for dad and then I'm gonna start over, right? It was real hard for me. And feel to this day when people don't know my story, which once, you know, and I like clarifying it because it's important for me. I go into this business, I build it from a three to $60 million business, no credit line, no cash infusion, grinding, you know, no internet, no, like it's just different, I mean, it was internet, but it was a different fucking internet than it is now.

And then I leave at 34, I never pay myself, I think one year there was a little over 100,000 year, but don't forget for the executive that took something for three to 60 million. The first three, four, five years were 30, 40,000, 50,000 ranges. I lived in an $1,800 a month apartment the whole time, right? Or at least, excuse me, until I was 29, I save up money. I've been a $1,800 a month apartment the whole time.

Oh, excuse me, until I was 29, I save up money. I then get to this place where I'm 31, 32. I realize the internet's coming. I have like 3, 4, I'm 31, 32 years old. I'm making 90,000 a year. I built a 40, at that point, a $50 million business and I have 400,000 a year, I built a 40 at that point, a $50 million business and I have 400,000 dollars in savings.

I put all those savings into Tumblr, Facebook, and Twitter stock, all of it. And then I started VaynerMedia at 34 and in a conference room of another company because I couldn't afford rent because I had no money with my brother. So 25, so first of all, that's just important because so many people listening around are 28 and are way ahead of where I was, are 32 and way ahead of where I was. So it speaks to what you can do in a decade if you fucking got it. 25 year old me, super pent up to prove to the world most likely myself though that I'm as good as I am. I just got living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you.

I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you. I've been living here with you.

I've been living here with you. Leave it at 10 p.m. every night. Seven a.m. to 10 p.m. every night. Mondays we saturday. No going out. No girlfriend. Sunday sleep till like fucking noon. Go to my parents house. Talk business. In the fall, watch the jets, in the not fall, hang out with my little brother and my sister. 100% 1940s immigrant family man kind of world, every day, seven to 10 PM, every day, every day, every single day of my 25, every day.

Sleep to 11 a.m. Sunday, garage sale, to flea markets and set as a side hustle on Saturday for fun or Sunday for fun because I liked it or watch a jets or go to my parents house an hour away from my apartment that point 45 minutes away to hang out and talk business to set up the next week. That is literally my entire life. So when people now are like, oh, I hustle, yet like I get it, but it's by their standards. It is not by immigrant, you know, and I like that people have balanced lives. I think that's great. That's just my answer to who 25 year old leave us.

Okay, so it goes right to what I wanna ask you. So you just, people look at me sometimes and I'm not being self deprecating either. I'm 49 next week and oftentimes I think think people I look at least my age or older and I say sometimes I think one of the reasons I look a little bit older is my 20s resemble yours like it probably aged me a little bit it probably experienced me a little bit like there were no vacations right same thing difference I get a little bit better financial reward earlier than you. Yeah what were you what were

you about? I was hustling every single day and I was building my financial company then and then I was building real estate businesses. And I'm just saying thing, son up when people were already been asleep for three or four hours, six days a week, sometimes half days, Sundays, four a decade. And what I want to ask you about, because so many things we say are similar except this one point, I want to hear the new one, seven. When I get a 25 year old guy who asks me, hey, I want to be somebody I want to win. My answer is typically that, hey, you have to have patience because it may not happen

now. But you've got to get after it. And I think that's what I was doing, that's what you were doing, that's what Zuckerberg was doing, that's what Cuban was doing, that's what LeBron was doing. But sometimes when I hear you say it, I feel like what I'm hearing, and maybe it's a sound bite is, don't worry. I know where you're going, keep going, keep going.

I can't worry about it, travel to Europe, you'll get your life as long. I'll explain. Life is long. Yeah, I'll explain. I'm scared. When you and I were doing it, entrepreneurship was not cool, Ed.

Yeah, yeah. Well, you're hearing in that nuance, brother, is concerned. The concern that a ton of fucking people want to be it now and aren't it. So I think people have now aspired to be an entrepreneur when they're not and those are the people that are going through depression are suicidal, are unhappy, because they're in a game that doesn't match them. So when I say that, it leads, I'm playing chess. It's never a one-size-fits-all.

I wanna see what the person says next. I'm looking for the tell. God, a brother. Yeah. I'm like, you know, well, listen, don't over Got it, brother? Yeah. I'm like, you know, well listen, don't overstretch, you got patients. Your 20s is a good high risk high reward time. If it's in you, like if you said that to me,

if Gary said to Gary, you know, go to Europe, go this, I'll be like, fuck you. All right, be true, be true. Well, that's what I'm looking for. Okay. Because when the kid says, yeah, you're right, I'm like, uh-huh, I couldn't breathe. And I couldn't breathe.

I had to do it every second. I couldn't breathe. This is on set. When you're a natural purebred, you're in Beyonce, LeBron, Pablo Picasso category. You're an artist. You're an artist. There was no choice.

I'm not doing this for the fucking flexor or the glam or the money or the house or the jet. I don't want a single thing. I don't want to be part of any exclusive club. I don't need an island. I don't need a house. I fucking need the game. People fucking game.

You know, it's funny. I thought, brother, that's my favorite thing probably ever been said on here. Thank you. And the reason is that I live it and I, I, I, I had a really successful dude tell me when I was young because I was going crazy and he was crazy. He was in his 50s. His name was also at.

I'll never forget it. He's passed away since he goes, Hey, man, it's never going to go away. It's never going to go away. And I look at you. You ready for this? You ready for this? Yeah. I think it's stronger in me now.

Now I'm like, fuck it. Now I'm like, I want to statue. I want, I want it's stronger in me now. Now I'm like, fuck it. Now I'm like, I wanna statue, I want, I want National Entrepreneur Day to be a stay at home holiday on November 14th, because that was my birthday. I'm like, fuck it. I want it more now. I'm more ambitious. I'm more hungry now.

That's the truth. That's not some mid-lice crisis thing for all the 20-year-olds. If you're like me, you'll remember this fucking interview and be like, fuck, he's right, it's true. I'm a hungrier. Yeah, it is true. It's become more of a fabric who I am. There's momentum in my life. Just like you've got momentum. People also underestimate the power of momentum.

Like you get your life going at magnifies everything you've got going around you. Every year, the best baseball team doesn't win the world series. You get your life going at magnifies everything you've got going around you. Every year the best baseball team doesn't win the World Series. Sometimes it's the hottest ball pick. Oh, you used that. I love you for that analogy. Literally, literally. You know what's crazy right now?

We're talking right now in the background. It just popped up. Just popped up in the background. The 2008 AFC Championship game, Patriots, Chiefs, who obviously I hate, the Pats with all my heart. But that was a game of momentum. The Pats just scored, they're up 14, nothing now in this game. I think they would wind up like 21, nothing. They were up huge, they had all the momentum in the first half,

then the Chiefs had all the momentum in the second half. For people not to understand that the easiest comp is sports to life on this, it is pure momentum. I couldn't agree with you more. You know what I love to think about that? The things we said no to that were actually the trigger to a hotter, to a streak, to heater. That we said, I hope that heaven is where it shows you

what life would have been based on choices. I love that I didn't go to some night where at night would have been these two people that would have made this deal with it. Like I love knowing that like momentum is based on choice that I've missed momentum many times in my life and that I've gotten momentum many times in my life and I love that part of the game actually which is like decisions actually matter and sometimes when you have the humility to go to a thing that doesn't seem right, you get you get something that triggers a domino. And sometimes when you go to something, you're like, I mean, I remember sitting down, there's one

meeting I remember very vividly with Howard Schultz. I had a meeting with Howard Schultz to kind of just, I was getting hot, getting in the, no, and like, I got connected. I remember sitting four minutes before it. I'm like, I'm about to walk in here. And I'm about to blow this dude's face off and it's going to be a fucking foundational thing. I walked in, we had a 15 minute meeting, 20 minute meeting and nothing's happened. I didn't feel like I had it off day. I felt like I gave it, but it didn't click. When I went to go see Jimmy Ivean for this meeting, I'm like, I'm going to blow his face off within three minutes. He's like, your next Simon Cowell and he cast

to me in the Apple Show, Planet of the Apps with Will I Am, Quinnipaltro, and Jessica Alba. And if that show actually got seen, unfortunately, it was before all the OTT stuff and the way TV, like that would have been white and that would have been one of the moments. So, you know, the reality is, is that,

you know, like, I love that kind of shit. And then I love, I'm trying to think of like, something good where like, who would I meet, Rand, like, I'm trying to think of a good where like, who would I meet, Rand? Like, I'm trying to think of a real logical thing. Well, you know, I took a meeting with the Jeff's president at a bagel store, because he wanted to sell me a sky box. I told him about where the world was going.

We became great friends. That's Matt Higgins, who's on Shark Tank, who's Steve Ross's right hand. That led to him leaving the Jeff's years later, going to the Steve Ross and Dolphins. That became the German who bought a piece of my company. that big old meeting became monster meeting for me and I didn't know who Matt Higgins was going into it. So I love chance, I love momentum and I love what starts momentum. That's where I just took this. I need more than to remind everybody right now. Say yes. You know one thing that I hate

about people that haven't achieved anything and people that have achieved everything, they overvalue their time. And it's a tricky one. If you haven't gotten there yet, what should people like Gary, I'm not doing that pro bono work, I should be compensated. I'm like, bro, your work's worth nothing. Like there's 700,000 video makers that I can, right now, like, sorry, like when your work's not worth anything, like when no humility, and then, and then, and then again, no humility, when people get fancy, they don't take, I take so many small meetings,

I do so many things like T with Gary B. in the morning during this COVID crisis to, like, just help. And once every 8,000 times, it helps me. Right, right. I'm exactly the same way. Brother, it's like, I had no idea we were gonna go to these roads and I'm really glad that we did.

Let me get a couple more things from you because we're both. Yeah, let's mix it up. Ranking today. You've made really good calls. So when you dumped your money into Twitter or Facebook, what do you see now? So if there's entrepreneurs out there, there's trends. By the way, I'm ready

go voice in text. elaborates with me. Everybody who's listening should have a text service, text converts that are than email, better social media. Um, number two voice, I think Alexa and podcasts and Google home. Have this, this I see four to eight years out, text I see 18 months out. Those are two things I'm obsessed with.

Okay, so everybody's got that right? You just heard it from him. By the way, there's going to be some beat video in about eight years where we replay this back and he's on stage talking about boys and texts and the whole thing's not guaranteed. I love that stuff. Like I love it.

And we're going to both look at each other and be like, damn, we look so good back then because we're not on stage talking about boys and texts and the whole thing's not guaranteed. I love that stuff. Like I love it. And we're gonna both look at each other and be like, damn, we look so good back then. Cause we're gonna be like, I think we're gonna be like, I think we're gonna be like, bro, you look like a fucking bee. I want to see you in the fucking squared circle.

Like I think you need to keep going with your momentum and end up in a WrestleMania and a couple of years. You just took it from me. I knew where you're going. I know, you can, I'm sure you get it. So a couple of things really quick. I'm really interested about this too, because it's stuff that I know a lot of people

would want to know as well. I don't post in my social media almost ever about my family. Yeah. Yeah, people seem to feel like more than most people, they know who I am. And then Gary Vee almost never or never does it. But I think your audience feel like they know who you are.

Is there a way you create content or is that strategic? No, I think I think I'm just speaking the truth in the narrow lanes that I talk about. And I'm very comfortable in my own skin and I'm very good being me because I'm comfortable. I think if you have confidence and you know what you're talking about and you don't have hidden agendas, you can really build something special. What did you believe 10 years ago that you thought was definitely true about life or business that you now know you were wrong about? That's a great question. 10 years ago, 34, what did I believe that there's definitely stuff?

Let me tell you why I'm pausing and I already am a mad at myself because I think it should, I don't want it to come across as lack of humility of like saying wrong. I'm very scared of how one dimensional and narrow and deep I am, meaning at 13 or 14, a lot of these things became clear to me, or a conscious to me, and almost nothing's changed. Like, I knew that work-life balance was gonna be tricky as fuck because I was too passionate and I was a man of the world, and that's been true.

You know, like, I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, fucking, you know, I didn't realize that I'd be so busy and like struggle with not wanting to miss stuff, but having to make choices and having the strength to make choices both for family or business, not over judging myself. I really fucking do that, Dad. Yes, but identical for me, identical.

I, people ask me, if there's a whole you wish you were better at or a flaw for you business or life-wise, it's what you just described. Is that- And honestly, I don't judge myself. I'm prepared for my children to say they wish I was around more. But I'm also prepared for them to show me that I showed them a life of doing what you love, so I taught them how to live. And that doesn't mean about money.

And if they go and nonprofit politics serving the public, whatever they may do, business, I think lead by example matters. Yeah. You know, and I think I got lucky that technology makes me connect it more than ever. And I can physically be there way, way, way more than my father was. So like, you know, like, I, I think everyone's different. And I think you don't know. You have children that I'm this woman in the Philippines,

I was at a conference, said something that blew my face off, which was like, she's like, you know, used to resent my mother because she was like a judge and she worked her face off. And she's like,

but then like when I got older, like it's become the foundation of my happiness. She showed me I could be independent and have a child and I love her. And it spoke to me because the reason I don't fear working so much and potentially missing stuff when I'm 10,000 X more evolved than my dad was, is because my dad is one of the loves of my life.

We have a tremendous relationship. On the flip side, I don't make the assumption that my kids are gonna see it the same way. So I'm mentally prepared for them to be disappointed. Now brother. And by the way, one will be and one won't be. That's so cliche, right? And so I'm open to that.

And I'm most open to adjusting. They're gonna now be 11 and 8 this summer. Like, will maybe things change. And then, by the way, things change when they get older. All of a sudden, the only thing I think about is sitting court side at Nick Games with my son two times a week when he's 14, a New York City kid, grab an Uber, meet me at the garden,

and fucking live life together. Yeah, yeah. You know, so like, and that wouldn't have happened. And not that you need court side. Last Rose great for me as well, back to last story, but let's not get it twisted, especially what my life is. For my son at 13, when he's sitting there and Russell Westbrook comes over and gives him daps,

he's gonna be fired to fuck up and it's fun. Now what I also have to do is make sure I don't buy him shit so they become spoiled as fuck, so he realizes like, cool, you want Russell Westbrook to piss bump your son or daughter, then you better fuck it work. Absolutely. That's the nuance of doing what we do,

by the way, are those two things. So last, I want to say last thing, I want to talk about all in before we conclude. You seem like the most certain dude, any of us know, just definitive. Like, I've already decided, I'm going to have these things with my kids. I've already decided there's this balance. I've thought this through. I've got a plan. And I know humans are still humans. So do you ever have doubt about something you could execute, doubt about a decision you've made, and if you do, how do you turn that around quickly and give everybody advice? Because everyone listening to this suffers with some type of doubt.

I don't have doubt in the things I talk about, and I don't talk about things I don't know. I have doubt that if a world war broke out, that I would have, that I would be a frontline person, I wouldn't. I know it. I'm just telling you to shoot like it's such a non-manly thing to say like that's so, like, bang out loud. But I just know that I wouldn't. I just know I wouldn't.

Now a fight I would, I'm really good like that. Like a fight, I'm kind of like the, like this is the truth actually. I'm the second buddy that's gonna punch the other friend. Like you get it in a fight and we're out. Somebody else, somebody else is gonna be first. I'll be second behind the fuck it. But I won't run away from that because my brain

doesn't think I would die. I got you. I fear death enormously because you're right. I am certain which leads to ungodly amounts of love for life. I'm going to be my saddest and worst version at the end. I know it, I know it. At 97, if they're like, you got six months, I'm going to, I hope that I don't but back to certainty, I think I'm gonna struggle, because I'd be like, fuck, 10 more. Why not? I struggle to find people that love life more than me.

I love it. The good and the bad. I'm willing to go to zero. Ed, when I fucking tell you, the thought of losing it all, having unlimited fucking people shit on me with all my content, making joke videos of split screen of like, I'm so great, and now, and the headline of like, Gary B. loses it all. Sitting in my fucking studio apartment by myself in fucking Queens, where it all started, and looking at, and reading it all, that I was actually fake the whole time,

that I fucking, see, I knew it. All that stuff, that weirdly excites the fuck out of me. Because, because, hey, it's never gonna happen because I'm kind of one of these, like, put a million dollars in cash, you bury in the ground, you know, and that's a lot, a lot of money. And if I have to go to that humble place,

I'll give me that starting point, I'll get right back. B, I don't do the things that will lose all my wealth. I don't risk things like that, that's stupid. But, but if I would, it's really fucking cool to know that I would come back and fucking stick in everybody's fucking Facebook, right? And I would find every one of them, be like, I just know who I am. I'm just fucking, I'm from the dirt. I fucking have the humility.

I have the confidence, I have the ability. I've been giving it, I've been giving it, and I know how I roll. And it fucking feels amazing, and I just want to do it as long as I can because the legacy is intoxicating and I'm for it. I am. That's what I'm for. Well, thank you. I knew you'd be open today, but that's pretty cool stuff you just said right there. That's pretty cool, man. That was. Yeah, you know what? I've never, you listen, you've done a good job. You're good at this. Like I've never, ever in the history of my life,

even privately said that I hate, that I know that I can't be the first person in the front lines of a war because I admire it so much. Me too. So do I. And the other thing that you said I love is that you love your life, brother, so much that you're willing to say these last six months, 50 years from now,

may not be real pretty because you're going to want another 10 years on the ride. And by the way, that's also why I don't do extreme stuff. Like I don't race fast cars or like jump out of planes. It is the fear of like I don't get a high from it. Thus what the fuck am I doing even if it's 0.01% and I understand you can have a heart attack, you get it. Like that all makes sense. But for me, putting myself in a point, 0.01% chance isn't you could have a heart attack. You get it. That all makes sense. But for me, putting myself in a 0.01% chance

isn't worth it if I don't get a high from it. Me too. Brother, I want to take my kids zip line. I want to do that. I want to do it. So we're very similar on that. My high is my own life and winning and serving people, making a difference, not jumping out of a plane.

So we started in one place and I want to finish there. Let's do it. I think you love your life so much because your life's not about you. And I think that's right. I think there's this energy of giving and growing. My selfishness is my selflessness. That's where I want to go. So when we started off camera, you said that to me, please make that point and then remind

them about all in. Look, I think that giving is intoxicating once you get into it, but you can't give if you're not in a place of giving. And that doesn't mean money. That means happiness. And I, you know, I think I've you, me, others. I'm really, really excited. I think the alpha male winner is starting to evolve.

I don't think it means being a pushover, like some people get concerned that our culture is getting too woke on that. I think it means rounded in that, like, I want people to feel comfortable in their selfishness. I love saying, I'll do right now. I want everybody to sign up for winetext.com. If you buy wine, now that's my dad's business, but that is like my family business. So, I want everybody to sign up for winetext.com. If you buy wine, now that's my dad's business, but that is like my family business. So I want people to promote their thing. I wanted people to buy case twists.

I want them to buy empathy wines. I want them to go to VaynerMedia and VaynerX.com and work with my companies. I want that. There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't want people to disguise, like you know what happens. You get into this gratitude guilt frame

where when you're saying something, you hedge it with like, but it's altruistic. I'm like, you can have both. You can be altruistic and give and be awesome and be selfish and have a boat and a house and fucking millions of dollars. Like, it's all good. And by the way, you can also do whatever the fuck you want. But like, but there is no balance conversation right now. It's almost like you have to be foofy, foofy, give away everything or completely rogue I'm all about me. And the reality is everybody's in between.

And I want to be great at both, right? Like, like bleeding out of my eyeballs to re in the morning, this whole week every day and being exhausted, but knowing that I'm one of the three energies, there's five energies, Alan Tish, Michael Rubin, the founder of it and me, and then Fanatics' company and VaynerMedia's company, they're working right this second, that have helped in five days to raise $10 million. That's going to feed some kid in Mississippi, some elderly woman in Westchester, like eat,

to fucking eat. Not to mention all the happiness that comes when you're the person that wins the fucking speaking role in Leo and you're just a normal person. And for months, you and your friends are just happy every day talking about it. 83 people in your world,

they're so much good that can be done both selfless and selfish. I'm like sitting here, I just said it right before this. I'm here to make a connection with somebody I know to promote all in challenge.com. Please go donate some way, some shake 10 bucks minimum. And, and, oh, the Gary B experience, by the way, is gnarly. It's like what I did was nuts. Like, I mean, it's so, $25,000 shopping spree on my dad's store at Wine Library. Go to a tailgate with me and then watch a Jeff game with me, but I won't talk to you during the Jeff game,

because I'm crazy. Go garage, it's the ultimate me. Go garage selling with me and do a trash talk episode. Wine dinner for you and tell your friends. I'll fly you to three of my keynotes. You'll be in the green room and sit front row of all of those keynotes. Spend a week at VaynerMedia with me and Team Gary V to build your business. Let's a couple other things. So.

No, it's awesome. Real good one. So everybody who like this or has always liked me or has decided they like me now or even if you hate me, just go to hallandchallenge.com and support because it's good. But but I really want to end with this. Be happy. And you need to define happiness for yourself. It's not me, it's not Ed, it's not anybody else.

But know this. Most of you are living based on somebody else's opinion. Your mom, your dad, your girl, your guy, the anonymous comments on your post. You know, many people are still posting sexy pictures because that gets more likes that they've already evolved into having expertise around something else, but they still have to show abs and muscles and tits and ass. For validation, fuck that. Let's get out of this insecure high school

shit once and for all. That could be the gift of this time. And if people like you, myself, continue to message this during this time, I feel like consciousness is changing a little bit, brother. And- By the way, it's just like I'm good at Facebook and Twitter. I've always believed what I thought. Two years ago,

me talking about, you know, self-esteem and kindness and empathy from an alpha place, that wasn't, that was me knowing the time was up. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. It just got time.

It just got time. Listen, and there's a time for fun. I may razz lambo's and baby giraffes and things that nature, and there's a time for that too. It just became all that. You right, brother. And I started watching kids in their 20s, only aspired to do that. And then I started looking at drug culture, being inappropriate with women culture, stealing

and cheating culture, whack fake entrepreneurship culture. And I just started saying, okay, we're about to raise an entire generation of dudes that are fucking dick faces. And I was like, fuck it. I can do it. And as soon as I start doing it, the other 87 fucking outlets who know it's right to, especially when they see me explode, which is exactly how it fucking works. And all of a sudden, fucking, like, just started becoming the thing and it's amazing.

And it will be my greatest legacy. I know right this minute, that when I go into the fucking ground, right before it, I'm like, and there was that chapter where I fucking refrained alpha males. And it's the biggest fucking thing I can do. Brother, I love getting to know you better today. This is, let me tell you what's cool.

I've admired you. Obviously, I've told you all of your giftedness, but I wanted you to be this guy. This is who I wanted. You know what I mean? No, no, no, you never know until you really go there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And we both know.

We're like, ah man, or when you meet your life. 100%. Oh, by the way, going through this all in challenges, I know it's gotten me a little bit more into Hollywood culture because I'm just hand gotten me a little bit more into Hollywood culture because I'm just handholding a lot of these things. It's devastating when some people in popular culture consider like kind and super sweet

and are like mean to their teens. It breaks my soul. I don't mean to, bro. It breaks my fucking soul. Yeah, me too. And when I got out of today, everybody I know you did too. I got that you're even more of a giver and more kind than I knew.

Obviously your articulation is unreal, but I love the way you articulate the work, the stuff, what really matters. It was it was all of what I was hoping for. So, really I'm glad we made this connection. Looking forward to the journey. Years and I feel like it's probably the beginning of something really special for you. I can't wait, man. I can't wait. We'll definitely chop brother. Hey everybody, I want to remind you about the max out two minute drill because I want to engage with you more and I want to get you recognition as max out two minute drill because I want to engage with you more. And I want to get you recognition as well.

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