THE ED MYLETT SHOW - David Meltzer - Humanitarian of the Year

Episode Date: May 9, 2018

Dave Meltzer is the CEO of Sports 1 Marketing, one of the world’s leading sports & entertainment marketing agencies, which he co-founded with Hall of Fame Quarterback Warren Moon. Prior to S1M, he was CEO of the world’s first smartphone, the PC-E Phone, and later became CEO of the world’s most notable sports agency, Leigh Steinberg Sports and Entertainment. Dave is an award-winning humanitarian, an international public speaker, best-selling author, and is profiled by national publications such as Forbes, ESPN, Bloomberg, CNBC, Yahoo, SB Nation and Variety. In 2014, he was awarded the Ellis Island Medal of Honor and honored as a Knight of the Sovereign Order of St. John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta, the world’s oldest humanitarian organization. Meltzer was named a "Top 10 Keynote Speaker" by Forbes magazine in January 2016. In February 2016, Meltzer was awarded the Sports Humanitarian of the Year award at the Variety Unite4:Humanity event in Beverly Hills, California.

Welcome to the Ed Milett show, the place for winning. Here he is. Welcome back to Max out with Ed Milett to my left here is Dave Meltzer. Welcome brother. I talk about brother. You are a brother from another mother. You can't believe the similarities. I hope it's interesting to other people. I know, we think it's interesting, but hopefully, hopefully it's interesting for all of you. Dave's a CEO of Sports One Marketing. He's also one of the great philanthropists in the country.

And he's an interesting man. And that's why this conversation today, I think, in alter your life too, because he's a sports agent, but he's also does all these other things. He's been successful in the real estate space, in the technology space. He's now sort in the real estate space in the technology space. He's now sort of the life strategy and coaching space as well.

But when I first started to read about you, I thought, I'm gonna meet the sports agent guy. He's gonna be intense. He's gonna be kind of a grinder, you know? And I found out it was almost like I'm meeting the Wayne Dyer of sports agents, you know? I'm just very zen, very energy-based guy like I am. And so we share a whole lot in common.

So today's conversation, I think you're gonna love everybody. So let's start out a little bit about you though. You end up doing really well right out of college, right? So at a law school. At a law school. So you went to Tulane Law School. Yes, sir.

And you graduate there and within nine months tell them what happens. So I want you all to hear the ups and downs of real life business and real life from one of the most successful people in the country. So what happens at a law school? So I have two choices for jobs. And it's a recession.

One was to be a real lawyer, real and gas litigator, big money. All I wanted to do was be rich is why I went to law school. And then the second was to work in the internet. And I got offered a job to sell legal research online by West Publishing, Big Big Legal Publisher, and so I go to my mom because I appreciate this. I go to my mom, hey what should I do mom, a big advisor, you know I grew up with a single mom, six kids, and she without blinking is like you need to be a real lawyer because this internet thing is a fat. So she calls it internet fat, and I

always say because I like to teach lessons. Biggest lesson in my life was just because somebody loves you. Doesn't mean they give you good advice. And I see so many people entrepreneurs in relationships. They ask for advice for people that don't know anything. My mom is a second great teacher. Right. What do you do with people's soul but not a technology expert? No. And if I would have followed, I think slowed down or at least not allowed me to have the acceleration I had. So I took the technology job, single, money hungry, and a sales job in the internet.

And I made a fortune, nine months into it. I had three goals when I went to law school. If I could only pay back my law loans, buy my mama home, and buy my mama car. So mom, even though she gave you the advice the other way, was the driving force behind most of the beginning of the day. Oh, I choke up still, I got mommy as she's,

and I was so proud of myself because I still had a little bit left over. You do? Oh, you see. But I bought myself a big screen TV. That was the thing you did for you? At nine months. And I saved every penny.

I had a $25 per diem. I bought peanut butter and jelly that take on the road with me so I can get the extra $175 a week. As you're accumulating a million dollars in savings over that time. Did you save a million bucks the first time? Oh, I saved more. I saved almost every penny because the company I traveled so much,

I got it for a car house everything they paid for. I was in hotel rooms, I corporate suites in Indiana and so it was a perfect job for me because it was a full expense account. My laundry was paid for, my food, and I still I wore for three years embarrassing enough. I wore the same pair of socks not because I couldn't afford new ones but I somehow in my sports mind, I thought they were lucky. You're lucky socks.

And I was like in the East Coast and my shoe had a hole in the bottom and the sock. And I finally, and I was a very wealthy young man, I'm more than a million dollars. And I'm wearing holes in my sock and shoes in the snow. That's true. I think I, by the way, I had the hole in the shoe thing going. I did the same thing. I saved every dollar. Mine didn't replace my shoes, not because they were

lucky I was being cheap. I was trying to save every buck. But I'm going to tell you, there's a lesson one just to start the interview. There's more dreams stolen from people who love you than by people who don't love you. Just the advice we take or the people that talk is out of it. Because we take advice from people we love in areas

where they're not competent, right? Exactly. I'd take advice from your mom on how to love somebody, that'd be great advice, right? Right, but on how to teach and motivate a young man, right? So be very careful, just because you love them or they love you of thinking they have some expertise in an area that you don't, right? They probably don't. And so oftentimes we take advice from the wrong person to rails our dreams. So that's less than one.

One more thing, too. Yeah, we end up resenting them, which is worse, so all the people that love us most end up resending them because they gave us bad advice. And meanwhile, we should be accountable because we asked a secondary teacher for internet advice. That's the worst part. That's really true.

So what happens after that? You do really well, so you become more of a millionaire, a multi-millionaire early in life, branded myself in technology. Which I thought was a brave maneuver because I was so insecure about people knowing I was still a lawyer. My mom made me take the bar, for example.

She didn't think the internet was gonna last. So I took the bar, I passed it, and I kept the ESQ on my business cards all the time. And people were like, oh, you're a lawyer? And I still had this ego. Meanwhile, I was making so much more than all my lawyer friends. Wow.

And so I had to let that go. And one of the biggest transitions was the first time I found my own frequency. I started branding myself as an internet guru. Okay. And so we ended up selling West Publishing for $3.4 billion to Thompson Reuters. And I was smart enough at that time,

I heavily branded myself as the guy in the internet. So they paid me a ton to stay on. I had some stock. Wow. And so I stayed on to Thompson Royters. How old are you right about that? 27. That's incredible.

Yeah. So as a youngess executive at Thompson Reuters, then the internet boom really happened. We got into the late, mid to late 90s now. And the internet boom happens, a sensor which was the Anderson Consulting did. A merger. So they hired me to run a Silicon Valley as a director for every path, a wireless proxy server company. Transcoding internet on the WAP phones. And now I just became a Silicon Valley kid in my 20s, but I really was hungry to learn how the money worked.

So I was the front guy. I'd go into HP Ventures, Immorindo, Texas Pacific Group, Sequoia, and I'd build these relationships. I'm really good at you are. Quickly getting to somebody. You could act. You could act. And I learned that money side of it. And getting those relationships was really key because Samsung wanted to get in the phone division.

And they ended up, it was chic to have a young CEO. And I was good at raising money, and they put me in this position, we had the world's first smartphone. Oh my gosh. Are you catching this everybody? He's involved in the world's smart, like for us, gum, and business.

They like, well, you manifested a lot of this stuff, right? I mean, that's surreal. Unconsciously, unbelievable. Did you have this energy then, or so, I know you say you're a little more ego-driven then though, right? Yeah. So I had a very high energy, just born that way. I didn't sleep a lot, hyperactive, but I was always in my own way.

What was told to me was I carried an energy of being stupid. Now I need to explain that to people that you can think and say and do certain things and believe certain things, but if you carry an energy that's different, it doesn't matter what you're trying to manifest. And let me give you an example. There's a lot of people that date the same person again and again and again, or they have the same business problem again and again and again, same obstacles. No matter what they do, you seem to, why is this always happening?

It's because you care and energy. I agree with that. So what I analyzed and you know I went to India and kind of learned this stuff about myself is number one, my siblings were all hyper intelligent students. They all went to the Ivy League. So I kind of had a tip on my shoulder that I didn't go to Harvard, Penn or Columbia. My siblings were much more academic. So I had that going and then when I was little, I was hyper. And they were good students.

My grandma, who my mom was a teacher, would take us after school. Was this wise old kind of Yoda type of character. And she would always say to me, I go, Grandma, I'm bored. You're bored. I don't want to study. She goes, only stupid people get bored.

Smart people think things to do. Well, this changed my cellular memory. That's right. My neuro pathways and into my code. Yes, right. My DNA. So my energy shifted. What did that mean though? That means I projected my insecurity about being stupid. Yes. Maybe an ego-driven guy who then surrounded himself with the wrong people. Yeah. I used to be the smart. I made sure I was the smartest guy in the room. Yeah. Now, if I'm the smartest guy in the room, I'm in the wrong room. You're in the wrong room. So, of course, because I 100% acknowledged, agree with all of that.

You said you were really motivated, money motivated, young, right? Was that because you grew up with none of it? I'm just curious, would you grow porn or how do you cry, man? So that would be similar. I grew up with a single mom and six kids, by boys and a girl. So your mother raised six kids, most of which go to the Ivy League and the other one turns out to be you. Oh, and to the Ivy League. And then you turn out to be this unbelievable business

story on my story. Starships to college. Unreal. Yeah. She was amazing catalyst. But for the time I remember, my parents got divorced. I grew up happy, though. My mom created this great happy environment.

But when I wasn't happy, it's because I'd catch her. I'm going to choke up. but the car'd break down. I see her crying. I would catch it. Like, but honestly, or the dishwasher would break, or we couldn't go to summer camp, I remember one time I really wanted to go to baseball camp, and I leave, and I turned around and say something, and I saw my mom crying. So I said to myself, oh, if I could be rich, I could buy my own house, buy my own car,

give her enough money so that she has all these options, then she would be happy. Wow. And 40 something years later, it still impacts you right now, brother. So I worked through that all the time. That's amazing, that's, wow. And it hurt me too, because I created this weird relationship

with my mom when I had a lot of money because I felt so responsible for her. And I enabled my own mom. Okay, I can see that. You know, a butterhouse, a butter car. And constantly our relationship became about what she could do for you, what you could do for her rather. Yeah, I can shift it that. But it's an extraordinary thing.

I have some energy healers and things that I know. It's cool people, but I go, so much to come up with their business, I have some energy healers and things that I know. So, cool people, but I go, so much to come up with their business, some of these energy healers, and just say, I specialize in mommy issues. So, you end up becoming part of the first flip and smart phone on top of the first business venture. So, then how do you end up going from all of that into, you get into the real estate business,

you get into somehow you end up in the sports agent business or marketing business too, right? So, I've always believed in overlap or vertebrae approach to life. That you have the legs feed the lion. So make sure what you do well and you make your money out that you take care of and then see what else you can do

vertebraing off from that. So real estate was something because I had extra cash. Good. And I came over this philosophy of buying one property a year, 15 year mortgages. After 15 years and the 16th year, I'd refinance a tax free for about 200 grand each. Yep.

So I'd always, you know, so I was so young, by the time I was 40, I was guaranteed 200 grand or more tax free. Can I just interact with you? I almost the identical thing. It's like our generation we were right. It was on all the infomercial, so that's what I learned to do, right?

That was a double process, so keep going. But I did the same exact thing. Well, what happens is so I learned to do, right? That was a double process, so keep going. But I did the same exact thing. Well, what happens is that it's so successful in real estate, even when I was working in technology, and at SAMHSA, that my properties here in California, shot up, so I started learning about refinancing and leveraging. Yeah, here we go. I was leveraging into some really cool ice ski mountain,

put 12 million into a golf course, and it ended up being, we got Sam's Need to Design it. I'm really cool. And it ended up being the number one new course, eight best in the nation. With the real estate development all around it too, right? Yeah, about 1,500 acres. Right.

I'm just crazy. That's awesome. Well, anyway, by the time Sam's done how grew me, I used to tell people my ego, I used to say, I set my retired, I laughed. Yeah. No, they kicked my ass out. I clearly now that I'm old enough for a member,

hey man, you've outkicked your coverage. Here's some money and leave. I do have one more piece of advice. If anyone ever pays you to leave, take the money and leave. Leave? That's a lot easier. So you're going to pay you to leave? You've been some kicking out of no money.

That's 100% right. I agree with that. And so I dabbled in some stocks and technology, but I took a lot of my time. And I was on this road. I had so much money. I was married. I married my childhood sweet dog. That's right.

And I had three daughters, young girls. We lived in Manchal Santa Fe. Beautiful area, by the way. Right. Great place. And I started to self-load. We built that house. I remember the first night I lied there. You may have this feeling. I just, I'm sensing it.

When you build something like this, I lie there in the bed coming from nothing. And for the first time in my life, I wasn't happy. Yes. I was empty. Yes. I started lying there. I started lying there.

I started lying there. I started lying there. I started lying there. I started lying there. I started lying there. I started lying there. I started lying there. I started buying this before you got here today. Isn't this unbelievable? My guys, about 10 minutes before you got here today, I just want you to know that I had this exact conversation with my camera crew and my audio partners. This exact conversation. So yes, it's true.

And then I started buying things that didn't mean happy. More things that made different things that made me happy. And then I surrounded myself with really, really, really, a lot of people. I started going to places I shouldn't go, I was drinking too much, gabbling in other things I shouldn't be doing, and my wife caught her immediately.

She said, you're not paying attention. And we had a lot of money. And my attitude to arrogance was, she was spiritual. She did all kinds of meditation and readings. And I was like, what do you know? I made all this. Literally, what are you complaining about? I'm a Ferrari and a Porsche in the garage.

You have a living nanny and you don't work. Right. Right. You can see what my poor mom would do. Right, you can go to the two, yep. But sure enough, she came to me. I overheard her actually. She could see things dissipating.

She said, I'm scared to her uncle who knew me since I was then said, man, I don't think this is gonna last. And I'm terrified. And he said, I loved it. Because you know, everything always goes that kids way. He goes, I can't wait to see what happens with his back against the wall. Really?

Yeah. My wife approached me, said she wasn't happy, told me to take stock in who I was and what I wanted to become. I endured her since I was in the 4th grade. I spent one night thinking about it and the hardest part for people to understand is when you have a lot of money, you don't go bankrupt and lose it in one night. It took two years.

So for me, the hardest part was I changed before I started or actually lost everything. Got you. I was starting to change. I was in a lawsuit. My ego was in my way. But it was too late. And the hardest part was when I actually went bankrupt in 2009. You went BK.

BK. My bad behavior started in 2007. In BK in 2009, I had already met Lee Steinberg. I was running the most notable sports agency. I was meditating every day. You had your act together. I had my act together. But the weird thing was in that two years, my wife,

would get more and more scared because I was given control to the universe. Yeah, yeah. Ready? Right here. She was very spiritual, but I tested. You put you into the extreme. Exactly, yeah.

From not being that way at all prior, right? At all, and I was in control, and I think it gave her some security that I always was on top of everything. I was in control, and I'd answer her, she goes, what are you going to do? I go, it'll unravel. You just knew. Yeah, you just knew.

So let's talk about how that turnaround happens. So it ends up kind of going BK. Real estate market takes a dump, can't get your hands on some leverage anymore. She's going to have to be in that prospect. But you've already been remaking yourself, already changing. Yeah. Let's talk about some of those key things for people that are, there's a lot of people that are watching process, but you've already been remaking yourself, already changing. Yeah. Let's talk about some of those key things for people that are, there's a lot of people that are watching this,

like, hey, I need to remake, right? I'm in that point. I got to reboot. I got to shift some things. I need to take personal inventory. Both of you and I are meditators, both you and I are people that really believe in energy. And so let's talk about just some of those key things

that have worked for you, if you don't mind doing, okay? Absolutely. Talk a little bit about meditation, just that one topic alone, how that's impacted you and what you do with it. For me, meditation is about, believe it or not, vibration. Yep. Everything vibrates.

Yep. Table, then plants, animals, you know, humans, light, sound, and then thought. You know what thought vibrates the fastest? The truth. The truth. The truth vibrates the fastest. And so someone taught me if I could teach you to meditate to increase your vibration so that you can live closer to your truth.

Meaning you can only be aware of that which vibrates equal to or less than you. So I'm going to teach you through meditation to vibrate faster. And so I learned theta meditation. Great. The other key component of meditation that I found, and people like you and I that are reactive, regal getters, is that I would waste so much energy reacting, and I ran into a master shaw who gave me this. He's also a martial arts expert in master, and he could take all these guys around us, and they could all attack him at once. And I'm like, how do you react so quickly? He says, oh no, I don't react quickly. I go back to center quickly.

That's good. And that's what meditation truly does for me beyond the vibration is every morning, I have a center spot. So if something takes me off of that spot for the first 20 minutes a day, I don't worry about this. I worry about going back to here. And then this becomes an illusion.

Because when you're a piece, all distractions, attacking thoughts, boy shortages, obstacles are just illusions. Yes. We live in the world, the universe. I live in the favor of the universe. That's right. And when I'm off center, I'm not in the favor of the universe anymore.

So all I concentrate on, and now, do I do that 100% of the time, no go to my life, employees, I just do it more and more every single week, month and year. I want to stay on that for a second, because a lot of times people that watch this too, don't even know what meditation means. I think, oh, does that conflict with my religion?

It doesn't at all. Meditation has, it's not a religion, it's a way of emptying your mind to begin with, by the way. But you should learn about meditation regardless of what your religious beliefs are, in my opinion, okay? I don't think it impacts your religion one way or the other. But you talk about those energies, and I heard you talking about one time, there's like three types of energies people live in. Do you remember talking about that? Of course. And this has a lot to do, I think, with how you turn things around, and this energy that you describe.

What are those three types of energy? So the first type of energy is the world of not enough. Yes. And I've met so many people, even that have a lot. And these are like the billionaires that commit suicide. They live in a world of not enough. And so all you do is keep attracting not enough. Yes.

Then there's the world of just enough. And I feel really frustrated for these people because no matter how hard they work, no matter what good intentions they have, they always live in a world of just enough. I just have enough. I just have enough. And then there's the greatest world of abundance more than enough. And when you live more than enough, you give freely. You're right. And you receive freely. Most people don't have a problem giving. Most people have a problem receiving. And it is a shift and I think a conflict in most people's

mind. And I'll tell you how I know it. You and I both get the blessing of speaking in front of thousands of people. I love to ask this question, who here likes to give? Everyone in Naitley, they can't even hold their hand out. Everyone raises their hand. Then I ask real quickly, who here likes to receive?

You get this energy. Wow. You're right. Something that won't even raise their hand. But even the people that do, there's this hesitation which shows you energetically, they have a problem with either not feeling worthy or not trusting the universe. They feel like, God, if I receive, I'm somehow cheating.

Yes. Right. There's this weird energy. You're right. So I help people a lot of times with living in a world more than enough. Yes. That you actually, it's okay to receive because it creates the flow. You're emptying someone else's vessel.

That's right. The way that you, by giving, should emptying your. You're, I so believe that. That's this impediment people's lives. They're unwilling to receive the great gifts of life to themselves. And you talk a lot about, I love this too, about outcome. So in that same vein as we go down here, people get confused by this with me all the time. I talk all the time about having goals.

I think it's great to have goals, but I've been the most successful in my life where I've separated my addiction to the outcome. I was so addicted to outcomes all the time. And what it did is it tightened me. It frustrated me. It stressed me. It put undue pressure on me. So talk a little bit about how I think people think,

once I get somewhere, then I'll be happy. Once I get this big beach house, then I'll be happy. Once I get a boat, once I, and I can tell you there are plenty of people that I live by right here, but have these beach houses that still aren't happy, by the way. And I also have a whole bunch of people who that I live by right here but have these beach houses that still aren't happy, by the way. And I also have a whole bunch of people who don't have beach houses who live very blissfully. So I talk a lot about living in what I call like blissful dissatisfaction. What I mean by that is you can be dissatisfied and want more in your life, but there's no

correlation with that when not being able to live happily and blissfully now. In other words, my bliss isn't attached to an outcome in my life, right? Can you talk about that from your perspective? I think of anyone I've heard discuss this in the business space because remember, this is someone who's on multiple occasions brought lots of abundance and wealth into his life over and over, not just abundance, but created it for a lot of other athletes, a lot of other people around him, a lot of business partners. So he understands this principle as something he really need to listen to right here.

So, talk about that for a second. This is a critical point because we're goal-oriented people. Yes. Right? We play sports. It's all about winning. And so what I used to do is I'd attach, once I graduate high school, I'll be happy. I get a scholarship to college. I graduate. All this, and every time it occurred, I still was in the same state of mind. Yes. What I learned to do was detach the happiness, this bliss, from the outcome. Now, the difference is most people get concerned like, well, how can you be motivated without an outcome?

No, no, no. I have outcomes and I pray every morning. This is a truly abundant thing. My first prayer every morning is, may God put in front of me, 10 people that I can help. That you can help. That's all right.

That I can help. And I've shifted the paradigm of value understanding outcomes and happiness. So I used to, and maybe you'll understand this, I'm a great salesman. You are. I can oversell back and sell and lie to you. I can cheat to you.

I've done it when I was in my 20s. I would shade the truth. You know, I sold stuff. Sure. And it didn't make me feel good. And what happened was I created a void for me to fill all the time. I make you promises and I live on this premise, I'm going to exceed everybody's expectations. That's my goal.

Right? From the start. First of all, talk about bullshit. Yes, right. How many times have you actually, in a business deal, exceeded the other party's expectations? Very rarely. Very rarely. Especially if you've set those expectations artificially high.

Which I did. The way you exceeded is by not setting them. Right. I did not charge you for selling it. That's what I started doing. But what was cool was, I started with this prayer and then I said, what if I started the day with this energy that God put a whole bag of $100 bills in front of me?

And my job all day long was to trade $100 bills for 20. So whatever I did was I was gonna provide value. As a father, as a husband, as a business partner, as a partner, as a philanthropist. And just, you'll see, I ask everyone, either unconditionally, how can I be of service? You do, you say it to me the first time we spoke. How can I, and how can we serve us?

I mean it. Yeah, I know you do. And I know that that's my biggest blessing. I'm not lazy, I wake up at 4 a.m Yeah I work really hard for others. Yeah, and but I also when I work hard for others I have my intention my focus on what I want. Yep, stay on that for a second So the power of what you're talking about for me is the intention part

So what you talk about intention because the power of over promising and knowing you're lying when you say it You actually you know your intentions weren't pure when you say it. There's a power to just knowing what your intent is. That $100 that give $100 to take $20 is an intention too that I think gives you, I think it helps you, I want to get too technical through it, but it actually helps you vibrate at a faster and higher level, talk a little bit about the power of that intention

there. I taught by Wayne Dyer, I think he studied well, Doctor. So there's a field of intention. And I have a kind of steroid version of what I learned from Dr. Dyer and I believe that intention needs to be consistent every day. A persistent without fail, without quit

and enjoyed for the pursuit of your potential, a higher vibration or the truth. Let me put this in a context if, for example, I can give everyone a gift, say thank you is the best intention that you can have. That gives you perspective. Make your past awesome, your present, better, and your future brighter. Two words, thank you.

So I tell people, make an attention of yours to be grateful. If you get stopped at a life, say thank you because it probably, the universe is unraveling something and saving you. You had it. Not slowing you down. Oh, I love that, right? So I need that're not slowing you down. Oh, I love that, right? So I need that one. It's awesome.

Yeah, I love that. And so I live in this intention. Now, here's where you get people lose. Your body has cellular memory, proven. Your mind has neural pathways, and your DNA has a memory and an energy. That's your core energy. If you don't do something every day consistently,

this is what happens. The power of intention has an accelerator of exponential results, meaning if I want to be grateful, I do it day one, it's X to the first power, day two, to X to the second, X to the third, X to the fourth, now I go get wasted and stay out of night and I'm an egotistic narcissist who think of others, now it's X to the zero power. I've now zeroed out those other days. Now I start over. What happens at the end of the month is I sit there and go wow I did this all month. This is the way the human mind works. And I'm like why don't I get the results that Dave gets? Yes. Well because you zeroed it out

three nights. Yep. Yep. And I'm getting to the 31st power. You're exactly right. And it's the same thing like people they just they're 99% or they don't realize how the body mind is so works. It exactly happens, by the way. The easiest place to see this is like with working out or diet, right? Those are the two of the easiest plates. Don't you agree with that? Well, and for me, I'm living proof because I work out X to the 31st power. I do not, I'm going to have to leave here at a certain time because I go to Stark and they're going to train me. There you go. And I had to drop my ego to realize I need a trainer.

Yes. Because I still stuck at 25. Yep. To chest rise back and thighs lay shoulder. Right. Well, for me, I travel so much, I zeroed myself out. Yeah. Two days ago in New York.

There you go, right? And I know it. And when I don't, I will, I hold about 10 extra pounds right now. Okay. I'm good cardio vascular shape, but I'm carrying 10. Carrying it. Be it a Y, because every month I'm zero in my stomach. Just two or three days.

This is a hot lot to my diet. Yeah, it's, by the way, I love this. This is huge for people to get. It's like, because you meet people and go, I'm doing it all. Like, no, you're not. You're missing the 1% that 1% I love what you said. Zeroes you back out. It's a zero effect.

It's a zero factor, which also is important to know. That's why what you commit to doing needs to be something that's doable and consistent. People over-promise themselves, and the reason you lose self-confidence is the lack of self-confidence is the lack of keeping promises you make to yourself consistently, right? And it's because you over-promise yourself just like you over-promise the sales deal. Yeah, you're doing it to yourself. Genius. So you've got to do the 30, whatever the workout is, select that you can do, whatever the diet is, or the phone calls are, or the meetings are. It's got to be something that stretches you,

but that is actually doable that you can do consistent, so you don't zero out. Love, love, love, love this. Yeah, and the advice that I had was given to me, why I went to the gym that I went to. So I wasn't getting results. Okay. As they said, we're not going to give you anything to do

that you want to do the rest of your life. Perfect. Give me shivers. I was like perfect. It makes my life easy brother. And when people tell you about these weird diets, don't you cringe? I do. I'm like, how are you going to do that? You're never going to maintain that the rest of your life for people to ask me, hey, you're

in really good shape. What do you do workout like two hours a day, seven days a week? No, I do something I can actually do forever, right? You're 100% right. The other thing people do that I love that you talk about, I love this by the way. I knew we were gonna have more stuff than I can get in than I want, and I wanna keep going.

So I love what you talk about. The other people think, people think often too, when it comes to working out or business or diet, I have to be world class out in the beginning, or I'm not favored to do it in some way. You talk a lot about this like, crawl walk run strategy. I say that correctly, correct?

What is that? So I believe that you need to crawl before you walk, before you run. In other words, there's three things that determine this potential that you have. One, skills. So how can you run if you don't have the skills to walk yet? Two, knowledge. How can you run if you don't have the proper knowledge which most of it comes from either the internet Which is a type of mentorship of modern day mentorship or true mentorship?

Okay asking for help You know, I just don't get people and that don't go to someone You know and ask hey, you're really good at real estate. Yeah, Grant Cardone. Yeah, will you help me right? Why do I think people don't? Eagle, for sure. That's why. I didn't ask for help in my working out. Okay, but you go for Eagle. I know what I'm doing.

Meanwhile, when I went to the experts in nutrition, and training, and all this, whoa. Why didn't I do this before? And I love when people asked me to give them my dummy tax. Yeah, right? So, me, I'm like, I've paid some serious dues. Yes. You might as well benefit from it.

Exactly, right. That's the point of your podcast and my podcast. Like, learn from these dues that we've paid, right? Right. How to. What's the, I love this. What's your, for me, this is for me, it's like, I call it like a triple A.

Yeah. What is that? So, it's, crawled before we walked with her run, leads into one one thing people I was an action person Okay, right? I was like a bull in a china shop, okay? What I didn't think I was that intelligent or that talented? Yeah, but I knew one thing I was like the little burrow. I wasn't gonna quit and I could out work you and I can't tell you how many

Multi-millionaires that I've met that subscribe to the philosophy of out working you. Yep, yep. You know, and that comes from the no-quit. Yeah. Persistence is huge to have. But what I learned was, what if it's where meditation came in? What if I took alignment first? Okay. Align with the universe, align with the information, be more interested than interesting, then took action, and where it really took note into my 30s and 40s was not only did I get alignment one a take action two but when I got alignment I prepared for adjustment. Well I love that and that I love that because I never prepared for it.

I love that. I'm like a kid that I'm going to be a professional football player. What's your backup? I don't even. I love that. Now let's let's stay on this. Get in the real here. People that are watching this, we all have a lot of friends who are thinkers, meditators, prayers, and they don't ever produce results, right?

And I think the reason for that is because there's the workers, like, you know, I'll work everybody, which I subscribe to. I know you do too, but having said that, I so agree with getting aligned first, but I think a lot of people, yeah, that's puffery because this is important for you to know. A lot of these folks who kind of get aligned also leave out part B. Would you agree with that, which is the work part?

I have the same. And it's short changes the message. Yeah, I have the same, right? You're not gonna ever find me sitting at home high on my mom's couch trying to manifest a Ferrari. Right, exactly, right? That's not gonna happen, right? Your airplane right?

And that's not gonna happen. Yes. What I airplane right. And that's not going to happen. Yes. What I did learn is I will sit for 10 to 20 minutes and manifest. And then go out very clear, balanced and focused on what I want, which gives me confidence, which opens me up to receive. You just literally describe what I do. I mean, I think we do the almost the exact same thing. The other thing we're both big in too, I want to go through a couple like stuff. We're both being in a gratitude and the power of gratitude,

how it can impact the rest of your life. Can you speak to that a little bit about how gratitude plays into your whole life? It is the cornerstone of my life. It gives me perspective. And I try to give gratitude to everything and everyone. And when I tell you, like I'm the guy who stops,

and it's not about having money or not, I stop and give people who need it what they need out of gratitude. It could be time. It could be a compliment. I mean, you're attention to them. And I open a door out of gratitude. And I look at everything I have

and I'm constantly fighting myself to make sure when things don't seem as if I should be grateful. It freaks people out. But these two words, when someone don't seem as if I should be grateful. It freaks people out. But these two words, when someone's attacking you, realize that the mathematics of the universe, if someone's attacking you, if all you hold is gratitude, they can't attack you anymore. You can't allow them to take your joy.

The energy, an attack has to have attacking energy. It'll dissipate when you have gratitude. Wow. So many attacks you and you say thank you. Yeah. And I really appreciate that. It takes all the energy out of the attack. So true.

I had a good friend that was having difficulty with another friend and I ended up being on his podcast because I'm the penor one of you to do it. Okay. And he started attacking me. All the show. No, call me right after. Wow. Personal attack to him. Disrespectful. You know

the ego. Need to be a fed ya. And all I could say was you know what I did not even think about that. Thank you. Thank you for teaching me how to be a better friend. You know I'm sure a relationship being that was so close and it did hurt your feelings will definitely survive this. But the old Dave Meltzer, we're gonna write back at him. Or preach at him. And then I would have created this and lost the friend. Wow, I, it's like a almost energetic judo or a tight-cheat.

No, it is. Go away, thank you. That's wonderful man. I need to hear that by the way. That's one for me, because I'm a big gratitude guy, but not to that extent. Yeah, that's a point where I can learn it.

You know, I think sometimes I, that's good for me. I bet that's good for a lot of you, they're listening to this too. It's funny, because I inspire and teach a lot of kids. Yeah. And so if you go against gratitude, forgiveness, accountability, or effective communication, I use the lumbarity, it's in my system,

because I learn that way, kind of lumbarity football, of course. And so now I'm trying to figure out, how do you take a grateful approach for someone not learning gratitude? Right. Thank you so much for not listening to me. But thank you.

It's not quite working yet. But the principle applies, and you're absolutely right, because there's no, what I always do when I hear a theory, this is what I do when you should be listening to this podcast, everybody. I hear a theory, and I put it through different situations that are real world. It doesn't apply. What you just said applies. There's not going to be a scenario where it doesn't apply. That's how powerful it is.

It is powerful. It's super powerful. I'm curious. Talk about kids, and I read a little bit about you. You do a lot of work with kids. You alluded to that. And also in kind of nonprofit charitable work you do, too. What is the organization you're involved with that helps with kids?

Yeah, so I'm a chairman of the unstoppable foundation. That's what it is, unstoppable. With Cynthia Cursey, about 10 years years ago on her 50th birthday. Okay. It took money instead of gifts to help kids in Africa and Kenya. So not only kids, but communities with water, education, financial literacy, medical care. Okay.

And it's evolved. 75,000 people have been impacted. And so now these girls who never would have been educated, mostly girls, that never would have been educated are graduating college. That's wonderful. I turned 50 a month and a half ago. Happy birthday, Bladed.

And I'm doing 50 birthday parties. What's on this? And for the 50, I'm going to raise over a million, notice no limitation. Over a million as fast as I can in these 50 parties to build an empowerment and leadership center to take all these people we impacted and teach them how to empower others. Wow, that's wonderful. So it's scale.

That is scale. One thing people ask me, because I do Warren Moon is my business partner, we have Crescent Moon Foundation, we've given hundreds of scholarships to kids to go to college, which is still important to me here in America. Our high schools, they'll ask me Dave, there's a lot to do in America. Why are you doing this in Africa? Watching what's going on in the world, and if we can stabilize some of these other places, it only benefits all of us.

Oh, it's a wonderful work, brother. It's really fun. No, why don't you all know about him, that's really interesting, because you're going to learn this lesson in your business, too. These principles, remember, this is a guy who attracts to him some of the top athletes in the world that he represents, right? In other agents, we talk about, let's negotiate the shoe contract, right? Let's, you know, get the percentage done.

Let's get you guaranteed this. And I know that's part of what you do, but he takes this very unique approach, right? And the approach is almost, you begin to talk to the athletes about their giving first and what they could do with their giving and their time. Speak to that for a second, which makes you so unique. This is what I want you here. So unique in the space you're in, because a sports world can be very cut throat,

the dollar now, short term, short term, short term. You run a model that's different than that and a message, and again, I apply it through anything. These same principles apply if you wanna dry cleaners. If you wanna a gym, if you have a, you know, you run a life insurance business, whatever the heck your business is, this principle he's about to share with you

would distinguish you, make you happier, and probably grow your business as a by-proc. It's not the reason to do it, but it was a by-proc we'd grow your business. So talk about that. And to give credit, I learned it from Lee Steinberg. He was a Berkeley guy. Okay, from William McGuire.

Co-produced with Cameron Crowe, Lee Famous, and he taught me, I said, why do you require every one of our athletes to have a foundation? He said for two reason, one, I know it's right, and the truth vibrates the fastest. He didn't put in those words, but that's what he was saying. And then he said, but beyond that, he goes, I started learning that by giving back, I actually qualified the people I surrounded myself with. If an athlete wasn't willing to give back, I was only going to have problems later on.

And so, throughout my whole career, since I've been working with Lee, whether it's athletes, companies, media, or even interviews, I only do people that work with people that will give back. Every project I have has to have a charitable component or cause to it. Every single one, or we won't take it.

And it just has really increased a collective belief for a vibration for our entire community, not just our business. Don't you think it's important? I heard you talk about this, and we both said this separate of each other, but the reason there's also power to that, by the way, it's wonderful seeds you're selling, right?

The other part of it is, like I think it's important in business that you show up different than people expect you to. Yeah, I see you talk about that, you talk about that all the time too. Like in my case, if I've got some big arms and I've got tattoos on there, and I show up as this guy, it's talking about loving people

and blissful dissatisfaction and making a difference to be like, wait a minute, I thought you were going to talk about smashing people in the face. I think that's been an advantage of mine that maybe I'm not as I appear. And is that true also? Would you give that advice to somebody in business

or even in life? Absolutely. You have to take advantage. And I even take charity. And my motto is make a lot of money, help a lot of people, and have a lot of fun. A lot of people ask me, why do you say make a lot of money, Dave?

You're this philanthropy pissed, right? But I do pin by a lot of athletes with celebrities for money. So I call myself a philanthropist. Well, why do you do that? I said, because literally, if you don't have, you can't give. That's right. I say that about forgiveness.

If you don't forgive yourself, where can you ever forgive? That's right, baby. And so I say to everyone, make money for yourself first, you'll figure out where to put it. My mom is a great catalyst. Ziblings did extremely well. Sure.

But my mom has to still be supported by her kids today. It takes away from her own pride. There you go. Of course. Right. And because you never cared about making money yourself. Yes. And I really believe it's really important. If you have the skills and knowledge and desire that you should make as much money as you can and take care of every one around you. I believe that so much. And the point is too, what Dave's sharing with you is you can't transfer to somebody that what you're not experiencing yourself. You can't give me love if you don't feel it.

You can't give me gratitude. You can't give me energy. You can't give me confidence. You can't give me money. You can't give me these things if you're not experiencing them yourself. So one of the things you can tell from us talking is this man is interesting and he's compelling and he's different. And so I find myself gravitating to your content, myself when I'm alone because it educates

me, but it entrees me, it challenges me, it makes me think differently. In this space, we're both sort of in a little bit. There's a lot of repeating sort of the same things, the same audience over and over. I told you this off camera. I enjoy you because it's different and unique. And I think what I would call it is it's an elevated message. It's an elevated message. How do they find these messages from you?

So let them know how to find you. Because for many of you, first time in my audience, you may have seen Dave. Most of you know him, but if you don't, you don't find him. I don't know him. That's pretty honest. And then that's good, because there's 3.2 billion people on the internet. And most don most know me. That's right. I don't find him. It's good, because there's 3.2 billion people

on the internet. And most don't know us. That's right. And I'm really interested in how you do find out what we're teaching and share it with your friends. Sure. So at David Meltzer is the best place. OK.

Instagram, I do have Dave Meltzer.com. OK. Truth is, there's two Dave Meltzer's. David Meltzer, you Google, you're going to find everything on me. Dave Meltzer, half on me, half on the world wrestling federation guys. That's all right, okay.

He's a sports reporter, so one of my favorite things is when I get reporters, like they want me on XM radio, and they start talking about Stone Cold Steve Austin. And Bradley freaks out my pelvis, he's like, wrong interview. He's the wrong guy. Yeah, but I mean, a whole special on it.

That's so terrible. And I want you all to, I want you to find the wrong guy. Yeah, but I mean, it's a whole special on it. That's so terrible. And I want you all to, I want you to find the right guy because I think he can help you. He helps me. I know he that he can help you. So last question for you, this is just flown by. I knew it would. I have about 21 more things on here.

We're doing it again. But we can't. I want to do it again on camera too, because I know people that are watching are like, hey, have him back, right? Because there's more. But what do you want to focus on? The next five or 10 years, you have your, and I know there's some watching like hey, have him back, right? Like there's more. But like, what do you, what do you want to focus on? The next five or 10 years, you have your,

and I know there's some ambiguity to it, of course, but like, you've got your sports agency, you've got your, your philanthropic work, right? You've got this space you're now, which his podcast is awesome, by the way. So what are you focused on? What are kind of your ambitions the next five years, so your life?

Do you have, I know you don't have a specific window on it, but it's generally content. So I bought a media company. And I have a TV show called Elevator Pitch which is Shark Tank with Soul, Mentoring, Young Entrepreneurs. But I want to truly keep my frequency. That thing that you talk about elevating so I believe to elevate others to elevate yourself. And so I want to create through just my normal life, really cool content that empowers people. And not just motivates, but inspires. Motivation is short-term, right?

It'll get to that 99%. But if someone's inspired, they're gonna look like you. Yeah, that's right, right. Exactly, you're inspired, God. That's right, man. That's why I want to be able to say, man, the tears in their eyes, thank you so much. You changed my life.

Even one of those that I get, it makes my whole life. Yeah, if anybody who's sat across from me, because you're the most congruent, like what you say is who you are. Now, now, right, because I used to be the guy, yeah, I say now, hate me for who I am, love me for who I'm not, I mean,

love me for who I am, hate me for who I'm not. You used to want everyone to love me. Me too. So there was no congruency in my life at all. I was a chameleon. Yeah. And I was weak and I was ego-driven. And everyone admired someone that didn't exist. Didn't even exist.

Some character. Now I'm the illuminator. I'm the guy that lost all my money. I've had some serious problems. But I know how to live my life and I'm going to continue to get better. Yeah, you are, brother. And you helped me today.

I've got my own notes that I took down in the interview, but I really loved this. This is Dave Meltzer, everybody. I want you to find him on social media. I want you to engage with his content. I really thank you brother. So much, man. Thank you so much, more.

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