THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Eat Your Way To Health w/ Dr. William Li

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Get ready to embark on an electrifying journey that will revolutionize your relationship with food and health!In this mind-blowing episode, you’ll learn how to “Eat your way to better health." And who better to guide us than the extraordinary DR. WILLIAM LI—the world's foremost authority on the incredible power of food.Oh and yea , we’re discussing Ozempic and similar injections AND Groundbreaking work on Cancer cells! This is something you have NEVER heard before!Dr. Li is about to unveil the secrets that will rock your understanding of nutrition and well-being. With over 40 FDA-approved breakthroughs under his belt, revolutionizing cancer treatment, cardiovascular health, wound healing, vision restoration, and NYT Bestselling book, his expertise is unparalleled.Brace yourself for this groundbreaking exploration of FOOD AS MEDICINE packed with game-changing insights that will directly impact your health—no matter where you are on your health journey!Prepare to take notes as we uncover:How to EAT your way to healthThe profound effects of EXTREME and FAD DIETING, both the good and the badThe dangers of relying on PRESCRIPTION DRUGS for weight lossA comprehensive exploration of ANGIOGENESIS and its implications for overall healthUnderstanding the critical role of HEALTHY BLOOD VESSELS in maintaining well-beingUncovering how food influences INFLAMMATION within the bodyAn eye-opening discussion on the daily formation of CANCER CELLS in our bodiesThe significance of embracing WHOLE FOODS to optimize healthThe impact of WHITE FAT AND BROWN FAT on our bodiesAND Dr. Li shares his cutting-edge research that will forever reshape your understanding of your body's metabolic processes and the connection between SLEEP, INTERMITTENT FASTING, and your body's ability to unleash its fat-burning superpowers.Dr. Li's groundbreaking insights on HARNESSING THE POWER OF EVERYDAY FOODS will activate your body's hidden potential, unleashing a new era of vitality and long-term health and revolutionize your well-being!

This is the end mileage show. Welcome back to the show everybody. I, uh, there's been a long time coming. I don't know when we got introduced, but it was a long time ago. And everybody who tells me about this man goes, you have to have him on. He's brilliant. He's special. He's different.

It's not your run of the mill nutritional or medical advice. And then I started diving into his work and oh my gosh, is this gonna be unbelievable today? So I have Dr. William Lee here today who's got a book that you should get called Eat to Beech Your Diet, Burn Fat, Helium Atabolism and Live Longer. Dr. Lee, thanks for being here, brother.

Yeah, thanks, man. Great to be here. Very smart people connected to the two of us. And so I want to start out, there's a big thing going on. We record in Hollywood. And so everybody out here is thin and losing weight. And a lot of them are doing it with these different shots that people are taking.

I don't know if it's ozemic or whatever these different brands are. That's just naming one of them. But we're talking off camera about this. It's like become the thing. You see somebody on TV who's lost weight or a friend of yours who lost a lot of weight in a dramatic time. They're probably on one of these three or four different types of shots that you can take that do something to you that causes you to lose a bunch of weight. So what's the mechanism at work that causes these two gets you to drop weight? And what are your thoughts about them? Yeah, well, first of all, this is sort of like the biggest new trend that has, you know, that's always populated the weight loss industry.

And the people that follow them, which are millions, maybe billions of people actually that are paid attention to it because weight loss is such a or obesity is actually a growing problem. The, you know, all the trends of extreme dieting, fat dieting, crash dieting, that's been around forever. Right. But enter the dragon, which is really prescription drugs, which takes it to a whole other level. The last time prescription drugs became popular was the opioid epidemic. Okay. And I want to actually call out that because, you know, it takes, it takes a physician to be complicit to say, all right, the patient wants something. I'm going to give it to them. And if it's the right medical reason, and there are people who require that might require

a medical intervention to manage their obesity. But it might also be surgery, it might be counseling, it may be, maybe these prescription drugs, and that's what the FDA approved, at least one of them for. But the problem is when patients or the consumers demand the drugs, and then the medical community has to serve them up by writing prescriptions, I got to concern with that.

Okay. And I think that's what we should talk about. What's your concern? So some of these, I think actually, all the way back to Fenn Fendays, I'm old enough to remember that, where that was the weight loss thing. Now that was a mechanism of action

that was causing heart attacks. People were dying from it. So now, just so everybody knows that, I think most people do, but I think oftentimes, you know, if you live in certain parts of the country, things spread slower, right? But so there's a shot that you can take every day that's one of these injections that many of my friends

are on that are in Hollywood or better just every day people that have lost a lot of weight. There's another one that's a once a week one. I think that's the ozemic one. And I don't know that I should be using specific names because I'm probably wrong. But so the concern you have is that it could, that we don't know the ramifications

of taking these medications yet, or that you think they, because they were really prescribed originally for morbidly obese people to lose weight to save their lives. Well, here's the thing. These drugs were originally developed to treat people with diabetes. They were not intended to actually treat people who are obese.

And in fact, these drugs have become so popular that diabetics actually are having difficulty getting their hands on the medicines to treat their diabetes, right? So this all goes back to metabolism, which is really what I wrote my book in the video game right into that. We're gonna dive into that. But it's really relevant because the bottom line is that our body is hardwired to be able

to control metabolism in reasonable ways. And what's connected to our metabolism is the fuel that we, which is food, and food is often demonized as the reason that we become, we gain too much weight or obese or the corollary is actually, you know what, just, you know, we should find ways to actually combat our obesity by cutting off our willingness to actually eat. So that's basically how these drugs work. They're called GLP1 agonists. What that means in layman's terms is that we got a receptor in our brain. Yes. GLP1. And when you actually pull that,

when you touch that trigger, pull that trigger of that button in our brain, it actually blocks your appetite. So these drugs fundamentally just keep us from being hungry. I'm wanting to eat. However anecdotally, maybe I'm wrong, you correct me if I'm wrong. By the way, even if I'm,

I, you correct me if I'm wrong. Friends of mine who have taken these medications get very sick for the first few weeks that are on them. I mean, we're talking about violent vomiting. There's something happening beyond just the brain blocking your desire to eat because people, I mean, I know people got very, very sick. Can't tolerate them at all.

And the doctor will tell them, if you're just grinding through another two or three weeks, the vomiting, the stomach irritation goes away. So is there something all set work happening beyond just the blocking of the receptor that's causing them to get sick? Well, here's the thing. These receptors in our brains are not all or nothing, you know, isolated switches. The receptors in our brain like GEOP wants connected to our other hormones that control our body. So when you actually start pushing that button all the time, you get a domino effect of other things.

And again, you know, there are people who actually could benefit from these prescription medications, including diabetics. And so I think the issue is that it needs to be done in a medical supervision. It is not necessarily a one-size-fits-all solution. There are side effects you have to manage. And including some of the adverse events that you're just talking about, which are things you don't wanna have happen.

And there are other ways. Maybe I would say better ways. More ways that are actually more aligned with our humanity and our human nature, which is that look, you wanna eat, eat the right foods. You wanna eat, eat at the right time. You to eat, you let your metabolism do the heavy lifting for you. There is an alternative to prescription drugs.

So the fact that sort of there's a stream of people lining up to get these medicines, does concern me, has a medical doctor and his science is scientist because A, this is not what it's designed for, sort of, people that are not, who want to just get radically thin, thinner as opposed to people who have a medical condition with obesity. Number two, it does cause, every drug has effects and side effects and I'm concerned about the scale of their use causing side effects.

And number three, we don't really know what the long-term effects might be in people who don't have diabetes. Okay, and we're going to talk about healthy ways to lose weight as well, which is your work. We're going to talk about metabolism in a second two more questions about these shots, these drugs. Is there any mechanism at work that is causing glucose? Glucose regulation? Is that why diabetics we're using it? Are you going to process glucose differently? Or is it just an appetite suppressant? Well, it's fundamentally an appetite suppressant. So, by cutting down your intake of food, including carbs, you're actually going to have a better shot at actually getting your metabolism right-sized, let's say. But here's the other thing. My background is in drug development. I worked in biotechnology for almost 30 years.

I've been involved with developing 43 FDA-approved treatments for all kinds of things. Cancer, complications, diabetes, vision loss. So I can tell you that when drugs are developed, oftentimes they will have unexpected benefits or sometimes side effects for conditions that we didn't expect at the very beginning. Conditions for which they were not originally to side.

Have you got to harness that which can be incredibly useful. Give you an example. Metformin which is also a diabetic drug. Actually now been shown to reduce the risk of long COVID. If you get COVID, it's also been shown to have reduced the risk of some types of cancer as well. And so I'm not promoting any particular drug, but there is a silver lining to rediscovering new uses, repurpose uses of pharmaceuticals.

So I'm not by any means denigrating that what I'm actually concerned with really is this sort of this widespread enthusiasm to be able to jump over better, safer, more reasonable ways to control weight and to go for the prescription drive. It's funny that you say metformin because I've had a lot of friends who were actually taking metformin, which is also prescribed for diabetics from time to time too, but I've had friends of mine who were taking metformin, get off metformin to take these shots because it's like metformin to some extent on steroids for their weight loss. They thought they're longevity.

Antigdotally last question then, but I want to get into angiogenesis and metabolism. Which is all related to this too. Okay, I know what it is. That's why it's, I want to start with the thing I know most people's minds. This is another anecdote. The people that I know that have taken,

this is probably a terrible thing to say, have lost weight, okay? But they don't look right to me. I'm just telling you aesthetically, like they don't look healthy. A lot of people have said the same thing to me, like yeah, Sarah's lost all this weight, but it doesn't, is it just because she's nutrient deficient now? Is that what I'm probably seeing on their skin or their, I just, they don't look like, I've had friends that have lost weight

by working out and eating right, and they look a lot fitter and better than the people that I've seen that are on these shots, which is literally probably millions of people now. They don't look as healthy to me. Is that because there's just a nutrient deficiency to you as soon? Well, you know, there's probably a lot of different things that are going on.

Number one, to be fit and to be healthy, we want to eat food. Like we want nutrients to go into our body and our body to regulate it in reasonable ways, okay, with reasonable behavior. So when you actually take a medicine a shot that actually keeps you from wanting to have your nutrients, you're actually blocking that human instinct

to actually get what you need. You know that whole saying of listen to your body? Well this actually basically just puts ear plugs into listen to your body. You can't hear what your body says anymore. So number one, there's nutrient efficiency. Secondly, honestly to artificially promote weight loss in the manner of these prescription drugs.

And people who don't need it medically, again, I'm just keeping that caveat, people, you've heard of, I think it's called ozemic face, you lose weight in weird places first. Yes. And so you don't look right. Yes. And that's what happens when you start messing with the body's engine. You're actually forcing it to do something that's not natural for it.

You're gonna lose weight, but we wanna actually lose weight in more balanced ways that are good for our body and are good for our mind and good for all the other systems. Number three, again, this back to the side effect. There is no drug that I know, no prescription drug that I just not have side effects. And I guarantee you, the people who are getting these prescription drugs are not taking the package

insert out, which is that folded up piece of paper from the drug store and reading that like whatever five point type that you need to magnify a microscope in order to be able to read. It's important to do that, right? So and the big questions are the doctors that prescribing are they actually adequately informing and instructing and following them up?

Well, you wonder, and by the way, you're the researcher, you're the medical doctor, which is that the combination is very unique that he's also been a researcher and a medical doctor. I am not. And so I'm certainly not making any recommendations one way or the other. And that's why I asked you the question. I'm just anecdotally know a lot of people on these shots and something doesn't seem completely healthy to me about the way they look. Having said that, if someone's lost 30 or 40 pounds, it's probably healthier that they're not

carrying the weight. I wanted to start with that because it's, these drugs haven't been around long enough for us to know what the side effects are. And now you've just got this tsunami of people that are taking them. So, okay, now let's shift into your great work because the things we're going to talk about today, his work is so unique and brilliant. We're going to talk, I mean, it's going to actually get all the way to, can we eventually cure cancer? We're actually going to go that far, but we're going to have all metabolism, we're going to talk about food, but before we get to that piece of things, because the metabolism thing, even the fallacy of slow and fast metabolisms, you dispel that to some extent.

But tell everybody, because this just, I've done a lot of medical people on the show. And I've got a lot of anti-aging people on the show. And because it's a part of the work that fascinates me. The concept and process of angiogenesis I had heard of before, but I didn't really pay a lot of attention to it. So for the edification and education of the audience, what is angiogenesis I had heard of before, but I didn't really pay a lot of attention to it. So for the edification and education of the audience, what is angiogenesis and why is it relevant? All right. Angiogenesis is a Greek term.

Angioblet blood vessel genesis, how they grow, very simply, how our body controls and grows our circulation. And why is angiogenesis? Why are blood vessels important? It's because we've got 60,000 miles worth of blood vessels packed inside our body. And that's why, you know, no matter where you cut under your skin, you're gonna bleed, right? Now, in any of the deep you cut, the more you're gonna actually need to bleed. So we've got layers and layers and layers. In fact, this is so extensive a network that if you were to pull out every blood vessel in your

body and line them up in and you would form a thread that would wrap around the earth twice. It's a conference. So obviously this system is going to play a very important role for your health because these are the bi highways and by ways by which our body delivers the oxygen that we breathe and the nutrients that we eat, which activate, you know, keep every cell, every organ healthy. And when your blood vessels are healthy, you're healthy. When your blood vessels are sick, you get sick. Okay. And sometimes when you're sick, it also damages your blood vessels, which then causes a

cascade like the house of cards start falling apart. So I got involved in angiogenesis more than 30 years ago because I was attracted by this idea. This network is so profoundly ubiquitous in a body that it's a common denominator of health and disease. And you know, as a young researcher, I was trying to, I was admiring how so many researchers go an inch wide and a mile deep and they go into their vertical silo and know everything about a very narrow area and yet this approach has not led to any major

Progress and cancer research heart disease research Alzheimer's obesity diabetes you name it. We have a lot of mile deep channels, but we don't have a lot of interconnections. So I thought, right, maybe if we, if we study endogenesis, the common denominator, maybe we could actually drain the Pacific ocean of knowledge and figure out how all these diseases are interconnected. And that's basically what we've done to look at endogenesis at my nonprofit organization, the endogenesis foundation. We figured out how blood vessels connect health and disease and by looking at a common thread, we can actually bring new medicines, but also we can actually bring diet and lifestyle in order to be able to harness our blood vessels so they work for us rather than against us. And the way that they work, this is what I didn't understand, I had heard some stat about how many there were. I did not know that the body has the ability to

produce more of them or to prune them back based on different circumstances going on in the body and these can cause and or cure disease. Some extent, so talk about that a little bit. Okay, so because our vessels, our blood vessels support every function in our body, we have, and in fact, it serves as a health defense, it protects our health. As part of the defense mechanism, our body grooms our blood vessels. So think about the landscapers at a country club maintaining the golf course. All right. If the lawn grows too high,

they got to take the mower out and get it back down. When the body, when the blood vessels grow too high, our body basically mows down the extra. So we don't actually have too many blood vessels to actually feed disease. Now, if you get a bald patch in your country club, what do you got to do? You got to resod it, or seed it.

And that body can do that too. If you have bald spots, bald patches, knee more blood vessels, our body can grow them. Okay. So you're all hearing that. Let's just stay right there. I think that that's news to the average person. Okay. It was for me. So cancer, for example, there's been an excessive amount of blood vessel growth surrounding a particular area, correct? That's right. Whereas like heart disease or stroke, there's an insufficiency to some extent or hair loss. Exactly. For example, or a reptile dysfunction.

Is the lack of vascular of more blood vessels or the function of the existing ones? It's usually that there's either two few blood vessels that have died back, just like a lawn that doesn't get enough water, it just kind of dies back. Or the blood vessels that are there are not functioning properly. So they're there, but they're not delivering the blood, they're not delivering the oxygen, they're not delivering the nutrients. So it was the overall belief, I'm going to interrupt you a couple times, is the overall belief that if someone's got cancer cells or a tumor, that if you could somehow get the body to begin to restrict the blood vessel growth around there, that you almost choke the disease.

Yeah, here's the actual eye opener that most people have no idea. So we all, anyone listening to this watching this, you and I, we are all forming cancers in our body all the time. Okay. From the time where kids all the way until we're old and in the differences, and the reason is this, cancers form when there are mutations or mistakes major genetically in our body. Now, our body is 40 trillion cells, all right. That's a lot of cells. And it has to copy and paste itself pretty much every day. So that's why we're still around tomorrow.

Now, if I were to try to ask you to copy a sentence, I gave you on a word processor 10 times, you'd get it perfectly. If I do 100 times, you're gonna make one mistake or a couple of mistakes. If I issue to copy it 40 trillion times, you're gonna be making a lot of mistakes. And our body makes on average 10,000 mistakes,

genetically copying itself every single day. What that means, we're forming little mutations and our body makes on average 10,000 mistakes genetically copying itself every single day. What that means, we're forming little mutations in our body and those mutations are little cells that are mutated can form microscopic cancers. Now those microscopic cancers can't grow very large because when they form, there's no blood supply feeding them. Now what happens is that they sit there quietly as a microscopic cancer.

All right. Without a blood supply, eventually our immune system will spot them like cops on a beat, looking at a drug dealer sitting on a corner. All right. Not dealing anything. Not dealing yet, but that guy needs to go away. Our immune system just wipes out the cancer. That's why we don't develop cancer more often.

Good. Now, when cancer cells figured out how to hijack, they release fertilizers, proteins that actually cause blood vessels to grow tourism. Now, this is from the research that we've done. If you prevent blood vessels from reaching a microscopic cancer, it will stay there forever. If you actually allow the first blood vessel to touch it, it'll begin growing up to 16,000

times in size in just two weeks. Oh my gosh. And the same blood vessel that feed the cancer, allow cancer cells to escape into the circulation. That's called metastasis. That's when you actually have a big problem. All right. So one of the big breakthroughs in modern medicine is understanding this fundamental principle of cancer growth.

Now, the body naturally can prevent blood vessels from growing. And where the new new stuff is, is that we can give medicines or we can use diet to help the body prevent blood vessels from feeding cancers. Okay. I told you guys this is going to be good. Now we got everybody's attention. Okay. So, let's go to diet.

Let's meet in the middle. Okay. Und's attention. Okay, so let's go to diet, let's meet in the middle. Undy it. Okay, so now we know that the, by the way, we gotta go diet, inflammation, et cetera, because when there's inflammation in the body, is there something happening to the vessels that cause this inflammation? In other words, are the vessels inflamed?

Is that what we mean when we say inflammation? In other words, are the vessels inflamed? Is that what we mean when we say inflammation? Yeah, actually. So blood vessels are just there from the time we're born and they're functioning like without a traffic jam, all the blood vessels are moving through it, doing, delivering what it needs to deliver. Now inflammation is basically like Okay. Now, inflammation is basically like dumping gasoline onto the road and lighting it on fire. Now, traffic is going to slow. The road is going to start to bubble up a melt. Traffic is going to stop and you're going to have all kinds of problems. You're not going to be able to drive right through. So inflammation at a local area, like in one spot, is bad enough. What's a good example of inflammation? Everyone can relate to.

Think about it when you have like, when you need a root canal. All right. You've got inflammation in the pulp of your tooth because the bacteria has gone down there. And now it's inflamed. It hurts like stink. Yep. Everything is disrupted. All the blood flows disrupted. Everything. You got to drill that out in order to be able to actually fix it or just remove the problem. Now that's only one spot. Now think about whole body inflammation. Systemic inflammation. Systemic inflammation is like a campfire that you would normally just tell

ghost stories around and then put out before you go into your tent. Instead, the fire jumps out of the campfire, ignites the wisdom fire. And now you've got a forest fire and it's everywhere in your body. You're not going to feel great, all right? And a lot of people are walking around with chronic inflammation. We can measure it in a blood test. You can see markers of inflammation, but inflammation can trigger more blood vessels going to cancer. Inflammation can damage blood vessels.

So inflammation in no way shape or form is good for vascular health. Yeah. Inflammation is important in the body, like pinpoint to wipe out an infection. Got it. And then it needs to go away. Got it. So chronic inflammation is just a bad thing. Okay.

So does food affect inflammation in the body? 100%. Okay. Let's talk about that. Let's first talk about foods that can cause inflammation. Yes. So it turns out that many of about foods that can cause inflammation. Yes. So it turns out that many of the foods that we already know are not so good for you. Fried foods, ultra-process foods, sodas, they all actually have been shown to trigger inflammation. And this has

been studied in the lab. It's been studied in the human clinical trials. You know, you get a, you have a little bit of extra inflammation about every now and then, probably not a big deal. But think about how we abuse our body by eating ultra-process foods all the time, junk food, fried food, sodas. I mean, I know people who, you know, used to have like, you know, 10 to 2, 6 packs of sodas every single day. Yes. All right.

You're real big on sodas, no bueno, right? That's a big one on your list. Well, you know, the reason that sodas bad, I call it out, is because the typical can of soda has about nine teaspoons of granulated sugar worth in it, right? So if I were to actually give you a soda, you know, like, you pick the one that you like, and we look, we all grew up with sodas. It's a hot day, you want to slake your thirst, you know, down a soda, can of soda. It's very natural. However, if I gave you an empty glass and I put

nine teaspoons of sugar and say, Hey, you eat this and you're going to say, no way, man, not going to do it. So this is this is sort of the sneaky thing about like appreciating what we're putting into our body. And by the way, when it comes to food and health, it's not just about the food, it's about how our body responds to what we put inside it. So, when you put ultra-process foods with artificial chemicals, preservatives, flavorings, you put a lot of extra added sugar. One of the, and fried foods, which by the way, tastes great. I love a crunchy fried food, like everyone else. Well, go to the carnival every now and then knock yourself out. but I'm talking about daily consumption of this stuff or regular consumption is what it does is it sets your body on fire All right now your body will naturally try to lower inflammation by itself

It's got the switch to kind of it has a fire extinguisher to put out the fire All right, but if you actually continuously pound away by igniting a new, like you're, you are your own arsonist, lighting up fires. All right, your body's eventually not going to be able to win that battle. So that's one thing is by cutting down and cutting out the foods that actually spark inflammation. The other side of the equation is that, and this is the, this is the good news part. This is the silver lining. Researchers like myself have actually been showing that there are lots of foods

that can actually have natural anti-inflammatory effects. And guess what, it's not just kale, although kale can do it too. I'll just broadly inhale. All right, but lots of tasty foods, everything from tomatoes to watermelons to guava. Pineapples, you name it, the foods that actually we like to eat. That are tasty. They happen to be whole that actually we like to eat that are tasted. They happen to be whole foods, they happen to be fruits and vegetables. You can find them in the groceries, in the grocery store, they don't cost a lot of money, but they're very common in traditional food cultures in the Mediterranean and Asia. I think that that's part of what we've done.

We've actually gone, we've drifted far away from the roots of our humanity into this sort of mechanized industrial wasteland. That actually is very pro-inflammatory. And if we just kind of rediscover our own past, just gotta go to traditional Mediterranean or Asian cuisines. You'll actually find, these are blue zone cuisines, by the way, as you've heard,

where people actually live long and healthy, right? This is like, you know, like the Mr. Spock of health is live long and prosper. That's where these guys are. They're not doing anything special. They've got anti-inflammatory ingestion most of the time. They're exercising, sleeping. They've got good lowering their stress and they're eating whole, right? They're asking about exercise.

Can exercise cause inflammation? Ah, very interesting. Yeah. So when you work out to exercise, you're actually breaking down muscle if you're deliberately exercising. And why you build up muscle, which is what we're looking for, usually looking better, getting bulking up, all right, is actually we've broken down the muscle and the body naturally repairs itself, regenerates. And during the regeneration, you're growing new blood vessels to grow more muscle. You're actually recruiting stem cells. These will actually, they're all packed in our bone marrow and they come flying out like bees in a hive in order to regenerate the muscle that got broken down.

So it's sort of like one step back with it working out and then two steps forward and you're building up new muscle mass, new blood vessels, stem cells are regenerating the muscle and you're going to be bigger and better. So the recovery process is the beneficial stem cell blood vessel process, the breaking down though. I'm just wondering, this is super lame in question, but a lot of the same people who break their bodies down eat a lot of processed foods because they're eating a lot of protein bars and processed stuff like that.

So I've just always, not always, recently thought, hmm, all these real fitness folks, they drink a lot of pre-workout, right? Pre-workout stuff that's got all that crap in it or sugar in it, or, you know, and then they break down the muscle and then they're eating a protein bar. And so it's a lot of the combination I just wondered about. I've never asked anybody that this, but on the show.

Look, you know, here's what it is. The, the whole fitness industry, bodybuilding, weightlifting, high performance world, you know, is all about trying to take, break down the processes of growing muscle, improving fitness and endurance, and seeing if we can actually add the specific things that we've identified to enhance that process. What we're realizing with food is medicine research, which is what I do now, is that food's not that simple. You can't actually just add a whole bunch of protein from one source, or bone broths

is going to fix everything, because it's got collagen in it. When you do that reductionist, there's two things. Number one, I think you mislead. We mislead ourselves into thinking that there's easy fixes for it. The second thing is that we might actually inadvertently avoid the more complex nutrients that we get from whole foods. So then you're with this point you brought up earlier. By going by being hardcore and focusing on a few products to build yourself up one way or the other, you might not be actually eating a balanced meal so you're missing nutrients. And it's not just, you know, the macros.

We're talking about this whole new galaxy of micronutrients that we're discovering every single day that are absolutely amazing, including micronutrients that can fire up your metabolism and you can eat foods to burn fat, believe it or not. Okay, let's go there. But I want to finish. So good. So, so good. So my audience knows when I'm really in it. I'm in it. So tomatoes, kale, watermelon, give us two or three more. Just

great ones. Green tea, coffee, dark chocolate, avocados, let's come with chestnuts, come with chestnuts, linging berries, blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, chickery, escarole, radishes, carrots, artichoke. I mean, you name it. And by the way, it's not just veggies. All right. I mean, listen, I am all for plant forward diets, but I don't like to call them diets. I just call them like eat delicious foods that you can't even find in the produce section. But actually it turns out that seafood, fish omega-3, marine omega-3 fatty acids, not just fish, shellfish, crabs, crustaceans, squid, octopus, things that you would find on the typical coastline. All right. All can actually activate your body in lots of your body's health defenses.

Keep your blood vessels happy, activate your metabolism. This is what we're discovering is that whole foods prepared in healthy ways, delicious, healthy ways actually can do more for your health than we start this conversation on a single injection that cuts off your appetite. Yeah, okay. So we're gonna talk one more question before foods that go into metabolism. Yeah, I want to ask you, I want to go back to the soda sugar thing that we were talking about earlier. So friends of mine go, yeah, that's why I don't drink Coke anymore. I drink Coke zero. Or it's why I put

Coke zero. Or it's why I put um, stevia on my, in my coffee and not sugar. So there are sugar substitutes now. Are, are any of them better than other ones that you would recommend? Or there's some that are just as dangerous as the sugar. Cause a lot of the, even the, the stuff we eat that we owe, hey, it's got less carbs or protein, it's got these substitute sugars in there. Right. Right. Thinking of stevia, splend these various other ones is one, is raw stevia better than, what's, is there any of those any good? Look, it's a, it's a big question, right? Because our bodies, our brains naturally crave something sweet, right? And it's hardwired into us to like search out for energy. So there, and so I don't like to do demonized food, but I do want to call out specific foods.

By the way, for sodas, like regular sodas, it's not just that it's got sugar. It's got a lot of sugar. It's the quantity, the volume, and the frequency. The dose makes the boys in, as I actually say, in medicine, right? A little bit, not so bad. Huge amounts of regular bases. That's where you get it. She get into trouble. and as I actually say, in medicine, right? A little bit, not so bad. Hugh, once in a while, huge amounts

that were on a regular basis. That's where you get it, she get into trouble. So the added sugar, overwhelms your metabolism and derails your metabolism. So that's no good. Now, what about those artificial sweeteners that are so popular, the, you know, the zeros? It turns out that, by the way,

I was in medical school years ago when they first started put these non-nutritive sweeteners, artificial sweeteners in sodas, something didn't sit well with me from the get go. Like the sweeten lows back in the day. You know, like, it doesn't, you know, you talked about like people that you know is like, something's not, something's a little off. I always felt like when I tasted like artificial sweeteners, like the diet sodas, you know, it's not the real deal.

I'm not getting satisfied myself with the purity, like the experience wasn't real. All right, it's kind of like virtual sweetness, okay? It's true, right? And here's the thing, and we're beginning to discover this now, certain people who take, you know, some people who actually drink artificial sweetener sodas, they actually gain weight.

And that was a big mystery, like, wait a minute. Right. There's no calories. It's called zero for a reason, right? Right. Well, it's true that the sugar, there's no sugar in there that would actually spark your insulin and, you know, cause you to kind of have extra fuel in your body. But here's the problem.

It turns out these non-nutrient of sweeteners, and this is very new research. Tumbles down, unobserved by your body. Not in insulin doesn't rise, but they tumble down to your lower gut, your colon, where they actually start to destroy, disrupt poison your gut microbiome. They actually destroy your gut health. And so, although, you know, a lot of the big soda makers actually say, well, you know, the evidence isn't in yet. I'm a researcher. I can tell you, I got to call a shoe a shoe.

The data is pretty compelling. Whether you're talking about a spartame, sucalose, you know, saccharin, you know, start naming them, make the list. And in fact, you know, I've started to see things like stevia also in this category, some of the research is being done out. It's a new research, but it's pretty, it's starting to build up. The evidence is it's starting to build up. All right, the smoking gun is starting to appear is that these

non-nutrush sweeteners don't actually cause our insulin spike, but they, what happens? They damage our gut microbiome, healthy gut bacteria, when our ecosystem of healthy gut bacteria is damaged, we, or not gut healthy, turns out our gut microbiome helps to streamline our metabolism, helps us our glucose sensitivity, helps our insulin. So you start damaging that, guess what? You're going to start gaining weight. Yeah. Your metabolism is derailed.

So inadvertently, ironically, you miss the sugar hit, but you still wind up getting weight, and your metabolism's still messed up. Really interesting. Really interesting. All right, metabolism, I did not know this. So, you know, there's this adage that, hey, when I was young, my metabolism was faster.

And then, you know, I hit 30 and it slowed down. Or so and so has got a faster metabolism than I do. So the first thing that's established a basis that your research tells you that there's really like four phases of metabolism or four types of metabolism that's not necessarily true. These outages of age and metabolism, necessarily, correct? That's right.

This is huge, everyone right here. Huge. Listen, I'm going to throw myself under the bus as somebody went to medical school and went into practice and I keep up with medical research. I thought the same things that everyone else thinks is that somebody's skinny has got a fast metabolism. They don't need to worry about the food they eat.

Somebody who's heavier, they got a slower metabolism. I also thought that people reach middle age, their shape's gonna change, or metabolism's gonna slow down, and it's just natural, and that's the way it actually is. Well, I can tell you, everything changed about two years ago

when a massive research study, in fact, the largest study of human metabolism ever conducted was published in the journal Science. Now science is a journal, medical journal, a scientific journal that publishes fundamental human discoveries. Things in science change the way we understand who we are and the world around us. All right. So it's a big study. And it was led by a researcher named Herman Ponser who's at Duke University and he actually led 90 other researchers. This is a big research study. Usually you got to have a handful of people involved with the research study, 90 people, researchers from 20 countries, every continent except for Antarctica, okay? No researchers on the ice, okay? No one wanted to go there to do it. No, I thought. But 20 countries, and they studied 6,000 people, all right?

And they studied them all the same way for metabolism. So this is the largest human metabolism study. They gave everybody a drink of water, okay? And that drink of water, what they did, it was really clever, all right? They, the scientists manipulated water, which is H2O, H-R-hydrogen, over-oxygen. They tweaked the hydrogen, tweaked the oxygen, which is H2O, H hydrogen over oxygen. They tweaked the hydrogen, tweaked the oxygen.

So you can measure them. All right. And so they gave everybody a drink of water and they measured the metabolism on their breath. When your breath comes out, how did the bodies, metabolism change the hydrogen and the oxygen process it. You can measure in a bloodstream, you can measure it near urine. So they can measure it. But in, by the way, there's one last twist to this research that is the jaw dropper of the 6000 people, they studied the entire human lifespan. They included people that were two days old, newborns, they gave them the same drink of water, all right, and people that were 90 plus years old at the tail end of life, and they, and everyone in between, all right. So what did they find? Well, when they actually looked at what does metabolism look like

for 6,000 people from 20 countries, different shapes, different ages, different races, different diet, different everything, all right. Here's what they found. The first look, first blush of research, all right. They had metabolism was all over the map, okay? Just like you'd expect, right? Yeah.

All right. But now we're in the age of supercomputing. We have data crunching in our power. What they did, it was really clever, they created an algorithm that on every single subject, they knew how, what the size of the subject was, their age, their body size, their weight, they could subtract from their metabolism output the effect of excess body fat, excess body fat. And when they did that, 6,000 times, okay, and then they said, all right, when we removed the effect of excess body fat

of metabolism, what does it look like? It was like pulling the cloak off the statue of David for the first time. What they found, and this was the really the mic drop for human metabolism, they found that all humans are born with the same metabolism, and actually all go through, we all go through four phases of metabolism, through over the course of our life. Every single person participates in exactly the same way. It is the operating system, Ed, in our body,

like a laptop that you buy from a computer store. You went to the computer store, I went to the same way, it is the operating system ed in our body, like a laptop that you buy from a computer store. You went to the computer store, I went to the computer store, bought the same model of laptop, you went to your house, I went to mine, plugged it in, booted it up, the operating system would make it run exactly the same way. And that's exactly how our metabolism is. That's crazy.

But you know what, actually it makes sense. When we're born, our hearts and our brains, your mind, are wired to work and our brains your mind would our wired to work the same way our Kindies are wired to some how we can with this thing that metabolism is different in all of us, right? Well, we we started to we started to kind of make up that story because it kind of made sense But let me tell you the real surprise so not only we all let me to go through the four phases. Yes, right phase one is when we're born we all, let me to go through the four phases. Right? Phase one is when we're born, for the first year of life, our metabolism skyrocket, it's like a spaceship goes eye high. It's 50% at one year old faster than when you're an adult. And by the way, that's why it's so important, like what we're exposing our kids to. You know, endocrine disruptors and the plastic bottles,

we're feeding people, kids, you know, the pacifiers that are all rubber, all that kind of stuff, like all those thalletes and things that are in materials we feed our kids can potentially affect and disrupt their metabolism because it's going sky high. At one year old, 50% higher than an adult. Now, phase two is from one year old to 20 years old, right? We're going right through adolescence now,

anyone who's seen a teenager, right? Eating two or three dinners, bouncing off the walls, growing like a beanstalk, you would think their metabolism's going sky high. Wrong. This research showed that between ages of one and 20, our metabolism, human metabolism goes down, down, down, down, down, that's how it's hardwired.

All right, you're getting bigger, but your metabolism is going down towards adult levels. Okay. Alright. Now, phase three, and again, this is really the eye opener, I think for the whole scientific world, phase three is between the ages of 20 and 60. Guess what? That's right through middle age. Metabolism is designed to be rock stable, does not change, doesn't decrease by itself. The operating system wants to make it our adult metabolism to be as stable as possible from 20 to 60, right? There is no, I'm 40, 45, not my shape, it's automatically declining. No, that's not how we're designed.

All right, only at 60, phase four, 60 to 90, you have about a slight decrease. Okay, only about 17%. All right, so when you're 90, your metabolism is about 72% of what it is when it was 60. But it should be of 17% of what is when it's 20. So really 60 can be the new 20. If you let your metabolism do its thing. Now, what about hormone levels? Is the reason one of teenagers losing weight because they're just spiking with growth hormone? All right. And the fact that you begin to potentially gain weight in your 40s or 50s is hormone reduction. Is there potential for that? Right.

So, hormones play a big role because hormones affect our brain. Okay. All those, you know, we talked at the very beginning, we talked about the trigger that weight loss drugs are trying to push that trigger all the time, the button. Well, it turns out that hormones don't just push one button. They play the accordion. There's all the buttons that are being pushed all the time. What happens is that the tune that it plays, that accordion plays with the hormones,

actually allows us to not just when you're adolescent, not just to actually start to slim down, but actually, in fact, quite differently, deposit fat in ways that are appropriate for our gender. That's why women get shapely hips. You know, their chest gets bigger, their butt gets bigger. You know, all the, let's say the, the rentessence idealism, you know, Michelangelo's, that's basically all due to hormones instructing where body fat gets placed. Now, what happens by the way middle age? If Metaphas is rock solid,

why do some people actually gain weight and change their shape? Yeah. Here's what happens. Life happens. Yeah. All right. First, let me just tell you, when I say life happens, I'm talking about when you're 40,

45, most of us, you know, we're in our careers, we got families, and we have all the stressors that derail us from doing healthy things. Oh, you know, you've got financial stress and relationship stress and real estate stress. You're worried about your kids, right? All of a sudden, you've got so much going on in your plate, you're not able to focus your attention like you were younger on working out, staying active, getting good enough sleep.

And when you're stressed, you're not sleeping well. When you're not sleeping well, derail your metabolism. And by the way, it affects your brain so you start making different types of decision. And now maybe I will reach for that bag of chips because it's nearby and as opposed to doing it. And maybe I won't work out because I'm a little too whipped tonight

to actually do that. So all those things now enter the hormonal changes. They actually, I've heard many women in the middle age say, there's like pickle your brain in different ways. Yeah. Okay. And so now your behavior is also going to change. So it turns out that it's not that a slow metabolism

causes you to gain body fat, see the way around. Excess body fat causes you to slow your metabolism. There we go. So that's why when the study stripped body fat out, those brain's or more consistent. So the actual presence of body fat is what's trash in your metabolism. Exactly. Right. So it's like a self-affilling prophecy. Exactly. Okay. So, but that's great news because if you can get rid of that excess of

body fat that one time, your metabolism is just like everybody else's in your age bracket. Okay. So that's huge. Number one, just knowing that alone is a huge discovery. Let's talk. We're going to, we're not at a time and I want to get to a bunch of cool stuff. So let's first off, foods that immediately triggers, or anything we've missed on that, that will just speed up metabolism, anything on that, you want to make sure that we add prior. And then also, I want to ask you about the gut microbiome simultaneously, because it's re, I've had a, Amy Shaw on a couple of times who's an expert

in that. And is there, is there something that we should be doing for our gut health in addition to any other things you're recommending that would help with metabolism weight loss and just overall wellness? Well, let's just dive right in for the bulls eye here. Look, body fat is important to our health because it's a padding, our fat is an organ that actually releases its own hormones that help us draw in energy and can cooperate with insulin. Our body fat is also really unique because one of the other things it does is it can fire up. Certain kinds of body fat can fire up and people who are in fitness will know this brown fat Yeah, actually fires up like a like a gas range in your kitchen you're all right, you know like that click click click

Whoosh and now you can boil your water. Yes, okay, or cook your food Well, there's there's white fat and brown fat all right white fat is wiggly jiggly It's under your arms under your chin. It's a muffin top Mm-hmm. You're thawing your butt all right That's the stuff you can see. You don't like to see, a lot of people don't like to see it, but that's white fat, but that's not the, it's not, it's not, it may be unsightly, but it's not the most dangerous fat. The most dangerous fat is also white, but it's packed inside the tube of your body. It's called visceral fat. And think about that as like packing peanuts inside a thin shipping box. You could pack a lot of those peanuts in there in fact you can almost crush what's inside that thin box at

Arms like when you tape up that box it still looks thin, but it's really really crushing inside Visceral fat is like a base when it's in excess is like a baseball glove choking your organ Then you light it on fire. And now it's causing inflammation. That's the stuff where you've got whole body inflammation, which sets up for heart disease, damages your blood vessels, put your risk for blood vessels of feeding your cancer. Okay. Uh, and probably dementia as well. And it's in a celery cellular aging, all bad.

All right. That's excess body fat. And by the way, that inflammation derails the normal hormones that you're supposed to think. Now, your body goes, should we be absorbing more energy? I can't tell. Should we be hungry? I can't tell. All right, so now everything has gone haywire.

Excess visceral fat is bad. Now, that's white fat. Need a little bit of it. Too much is not good. You want to tame your fat. You don't want to suck it out or burn it out. You want to right size it. But the other kind of fat brown fat is amazing. All right. Brown fat is not lumpy, bumpy, and it's not close to the skin. You can't see in the mirror. Brown fat is paper thin, wafer thin, and it's

close to the bone. It's plasted around our neck. It's actually underneath our breastbone, it's under our arms like a girdle, all right? And a little bit in our belly, and what happens is that in cold temperatures, you've heard about cold plunges, right? Cold plunges fire up our brown fat, it's like a butane lighter, like a torch, whoosh, okay? And now you've got a flame lights up,

and what it does, the brown fat does, in order to get that flame, it's got to draw energy from someplace. Where does the brown energy draw that fuel for its flame? It draws it from white fat. Brown fat fights, good brown fat fights harmful white fat by drawing down the energy. It uses the ammo of the fat, okay, which is the harmful fat.

So cold plunges will actually do it, activate it up, but so will a large number of foods that we've also discovered. Right? Things you can find in the produce sections. Tomatoes, avocados, carrots, broccoli, brussels sprouts, bok choy, onions, garlic, all those things will actually light up your brown fat, which is pretty amazing. Pairs will actually do it. And by the way, this has been studied not just in a lab, but in humans, you can actually watch people's

brown fat lighting up, you can do scans on it, and then you can watch their visso fat shrinking. How do you see that? You can measure waist circumference. You can do a dexascant too, but basically, you can watch people's waist circumference shrink. Their belt size gets smaller, tighter. Why?

Because inside the tube of your body, that visceral fat, that baseball glove, is starting to shrink. So your belt size gets smaller. So we actually proven this. Now, what's really amazing is that it's not just in the produce section, you know how you're not supposed to shop in the middle isles.

Turns out that there are metabolism activating fat fighting stuff in the middle isles. Beans, lentils, chickpeas, olive oil, capers, dried mushrooms, chili peppers, all these things. You do talk about chili peppers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, chili peppers. By the way, chili peppers are really cool. Yeah. Chili peppers. Now, did you take pepper flakes, you put in your pizza, right? Well, it turns out that that zing that you feel in your tongue, all right, is caused by

a natural substance in chili peppers called capsaicin. There's a capsaicin receptor in your tongue. By the way, it's not sweet salty. It's not the umami kind of thing. It's a whole other, it's a whole other deal. Basically, it's the capsaicin pulling, pushing the trigger on your tongue. When that happens, all right, you feel the burn. Your tongue sends a text message, it's your brain, and says, Hey, this, this switch has been ignited. Your brain will actually release a hormone,

norb and effrin, that travels down the nerves in your neck to light up the brown fat. Now, next time you do this, if you're actually eating some spicy food with hot chili peppers, all right, see if you can do it in a quiet room, all right, close your eyes and feel the burn and you will feel your brain releasing those hormones going down your neck. You actually feel the nerves lighting up and your brown fat will actually light up. So hot chili pepper basically is, by the way this hormone that lights up the round fat. It actually is a stress hormone, fire flight hormone, which is why you sweat, which is why your nostrils kind of flare.

Alright, that's natural. So we're beginning to put the picture together. Yeah, it's all been hidden in plain sight. Back to this whole idea, should we be injecting ourselves with stuff to the effects our brain to block our human nature. It just doesn't make sense. I have not said one food that somebody right, if you ate it, right, exactly, but you can't have too much food. Sure.

And there's timing of food, like there's important, there's ways to eat around the daytime to actually be smarter for your metabolism. But to me, part of our humanity is enjoying the food that we like to eat. You just said someone asked you, I assume that means you're fan of intermittent fasting. You believe in feeding windows. I do. I do. I do. But you know, here's, here's what I tell people about intermittent fasting. It's a trend. It's a fat, it's a fad, it's very real, and it's very real, because it's how our body is hardwired to actually work.

When we're sleeping, we're actually not eating, we're fasting, and that's why I call it a breakfast, breakfast in the morning. But if you want to actually, by the way, so here's the other thing, when you're not eating, your insulin goes down, when your insulin goes down, your metabolism shifts gears, all right, into fat burning mode. So here's a deal, your metabolism shifts gears into fat burning

mode. So here's a deal. During the day, when we're eating, put food in your mouth, insulin goes up, tell them it goes, hey, it's time to store some fuel. It switches into fuel storing mode. It's going to take that energy, move it into your cell, store extra energy in a fat. So you're putting into your fuel tank, You're putting fuel in your fuel tank naturally. But when you're sleeping, not eating, IE fasting, your metabolism switch gears to say, let's go burn. Let's go burn it down. So when you're sleeping, you're actually burning fat. Now here's the thing that when you're not eating, is what you're saying? So you're saying when you eat, your body goes, we're going to store. And when you are not eating, eat your body goes we're gonna store and when you are not eating your body goes You're gonna burn. Yeah, so here's the thing

Some of the really simple ways to actually get your body to do the heavy lifting for you from a metabolism Fighting fat kind of perspective when the night before you go to sleep Eat dinner. Let's say you eat dinner at seven o'clock Eat for an hour put your dishes away at eight o'clock. Don't snack, don't eat after that. All right, and let's say you go to bed at 11 o'clock, I mean, just gonna say, and it's gonna eat hours of sleep, 11 o'clock to 7 o'clock in the morning. All right, during 11 to 7 when you're sleeping,

you're gonna be fat burning. You're burning. But if you don't snack after dinner from 8 o'clock to 11, you've gained three extra hours of fat burning, plus eight hours is 11 hours, And then here's what I do. All right, knowing the science of how my body works. When I get up in the morning, I do not do what my mom taught me to do, which is get up, roll down, eat some breakfast quickly, catch the school bus, get school and time.

I take my time. I take a shower, I get dressed, I will take a walk, I'll go check my emails, whatever it is, I wait for about an hour. And why do I do that? I will take a walk, go check my emails, whatever it is, I wait for about an hour. And why do I do that? Three hours a night before, eight hours a sleep plus one extra hours, 12 hours. Now I've spent 50% of my day. 12 out of 24, burning fat.

Very good. That's actually letting your body do the heavy living for you. Never, ever, ever heard it explain that way. So when you're putting food in your mouth, you're storing and when you're not doing that, you're burning. That's right. This is really simple, really good, and makes and makes sense. Because if I had other people on the show, they'll go, no, the only reason you lose weight

under intermittent fasting is it's chloric restriction because you're not eating as much. There's actually validity to smaller windows of fat storage telling your body when you're eating food as opposed to when you're burning. And when, and by the way, and when you're eating, if you eat those foods that I write about in my book, you need to be your diet, and there's 150 of them, by the way.

There's a lot of foods. Then you're actually eating foods that are gonna trigger your brown fats. So they, other 12 hours, let's say that you're actually eating, I wanna talk to the hours in a second, you're actually burning fat as well. You can, so you can burn, and you can burn at night, and you can burn also during a day when you're

eating. The right foods that trigger. The right foods. Now one thing that I want to point out because I know a lot of people probably listening to this will know something about intermittent fasting. You know that 16 and 8 thing about intermittent fasting. All right. Two things. First of all, if you fat for 16 hours and you only eat an eight, you're going to lose some weight. You're going to have a lot of fat burning time. But if you only fast for 12 and you eat for 12, it still works.

It doesn't burn quite as intensely. And you know where that 16-8 came from? You ever hear the real story, the backstory of why it's 16-8? This was not a clinical trial. Okay, although it's just been done, it does work in people. 16-8 came from a mouse study in which the researcher that was doing the mouse study was a postdoc, okay, and she was in a relationship where they're

the deal that they made of doing these feeding studies is this researcher was not going to be allowed to work in a lab more than eight hours. And so she fed the mice for eight hours and then took all the food out and then went home to have a regular life. So it was relationship necessity, not some scientific formula. Exactly.

And so while it does work, a lot of people who aren't researchers don't realize how arbitrary timelines are sometimes designed. It's like researchers are people too, and they wind you know bowing to the pressures of their significant other That's how 16 and 8 came about. Okay, so good. All right last question I got for you By the way, we need to do a hundred of these interviews. I New today was gonna be different, but like I've done a lot of stuff on health and a lot of stuff on wellness and I've learned a lot today, like a lot.

I feel like we're stopping in the middle, don't you? Like I feel like we're like on a roll. But I wanna do, I wanna do, let's drop weight loss, let's drop fat burning, and let's just talk about aging. Okay. So like telemere length, things like that. Anything in our diets, in our nutrition, that we should be doing to also reduce or slow the aging process, or

the same things do that by just staying at the right body fat, the right body weight, anything in there. And you can throw alcohol in there if you want. Sure. Well, here's a deal. Aging, you know, we're starting to get old. The moment we're born, a lot of people think, well, you know, I get 60 and above, I'm starting to age, and I want to live longer. Actually, our life fuses are starting to burn down. Okay, you know, we've lit the fuse, the moment we actually get spanked

and take our first breath, right? Okay, so the issue is, what do we do to ourselves that speed up our cells' natural aging process? So, you know, we're on a, we're on a clock, no matter what. But we do do things in our lives as speed up the burn. All right. So the wick of the candle burns faster. Certain things. What are some of those things? Smoking causes your cells to age much faster, which is why, by the way, people who smoke their skin doesn't look good.

That's just a manifestation. Is that includes cigars? What's that? Does it include cigars? Uh, well, that's a, the cigars are sort of got a different, just say no. No. I'm being prompted. I'm getting through that.

That's what the, that's what the teleprofter says. All right. So it's a smoke smoking. All right. So smoking will actually make you a fester drinking excess alcohol, too much alcohol. Look, you know, people say red wines, good beers, good. It's true. Thereinking excess alcohol, too much alcohol. Look, you know, people say red wines, good beers, good. It's true. There are some studies that show the benefits,

but none of those benefits are due to the ethanol that's present in alcoholic beverages. Ethanol actually is a toxin for your cells. It causes your cells to age more quickly. All right. By the way, the sun exposure, ultraviolet exposure also causes you to age more quickly. You know, anybody's a sun worshiper. You don't have to go to a tanning salon to cause your age, your skin to age faster. All you have to be doing is going to the beach or even stuck in traffic in Los Angeles on the I-10 for hours. You will actually get on a sunny day. So, you know, so what does your body have inside it to counter this speed up? Well, number one, our bodies, health defense,

one of them is our DNA can fix itself. So it wouldn't damage, but sunshine, cigarette smoke, alcohol, it will actually repair that damage. So how can we create better repairmen? How do we actually speed up the fixing? Foods can actually do it. Tomatoes, for example, also watermelon and guava, have something called lycopene.

It turns out that if you have a glass of tomato juice or two slices of watermelon, an hour before you go out into the sun, go to the beach, it'll protect your DNA from the aging damage, from the sun by 60%. Okay. Before, doesn't fix it afterwards,

you'll fix it before, but there are some. Before, doesn't fix it afterwards. Yeah. You'll fix it before, but there are some other things that can actually fix it afterwards. So watermelon is a prophylactic from UV rays. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's a lycopene. That's actually in it. So we, those of us who study food is medicine, we're diving in to figure out what it is.

That's, that's there. And by the way, watermelon also is full of water. So it hydrates. You also prevent you from getting dehydrated, right? So again, this is better than getting lycopeing pills before you pop out into the sun. Back to the whole argument of like, okay, what's the what's the totality of the food that we're eating? Okay. So the other thing about the thing that can actually help to slow down the burn rate of the fuse naturally, this is what's amazing to me. Turns out coffee, drinking coffee,

anywhere from a cup to four cups a day, will slow down the burn of your lifefuse. Okay, and in fact coffee, some studies have shown that coffees can reverse the burn. What? It's like increasing the wick. You can gain months or even years with coffee drinking when you measure the burn rate on yourselves,

it's pretty amazing. Wow, that's amazing. Now, you can't be putting chemicals in there. So you, you know, that incredible pumpkin, seasonal pumpkin flavor, that's not what I'm talking about. Adding, you know, a whole bunch of sugar, adding a whole bunch of cream, I'm not, so I'm talking about, but I'm talking about coffee.

By the way, what's some coffee that helps out there? So we've figured it out. There's something called chlorogenic acid, among many other things. Chlorogenic acid is present in coffee that helps out there? So we've figured it out. There's something called chlorogenic acid among many other things. Chlorogenic acid is present in coffee beans. It's also present in apples and pears as well, but it's present in coffee. It seems to be slowing down the burn rate of your aging.

Now, how do you get more chlorogenic acid in your coffee? What's the best coffee to have? Organic coffee. Okay. Now, you know why? Because chlorogenic acid actually is produced by the coffee plant, like many of these other natural chemicals bioactives in response to being injured by bugs. So when when insects nibble on the leaves and stems of the coffee plant, the strawberry, whatever plant you're talking about. Okay, which is organic grow. No pesticides. Bugs are swarming everywhere nibbling on the leaves. They produce more chlorogenic acid and other bioactives as a defense mechanism. It's a plant's defense. So, when you actually spray with pesticides, hey, fewer bugs don't need to make us much, right? This is why organic is actually better for you. I was a big skeptic of organic

ed. I'm like, I don't want to be paying more money to have less harmful stuff to my body. Real reason. But I am willing to paying more money to have less harmful stuff to my body. Real reason. But I am willing to pay more money to have more good stuff. Me too, and to live longer. Yeah. So am I. I want to say something to you.

Today's episode has caused people to live better and longer. I know this, everyone's listening to like, would you please have him back? Because I don't you kind of feel like we're just getting, like, we're just tapping the surface of this food as medicine. This is the appetizer. This is the appetizer., like, we're just tapping the surface of this food as metastasis. This is the appetizer.

This is the appetizer. I like that. See, kept the food analogy. He's good people. He's good. I'm telling you, I really learned a lot today. And I know when I'm recording something, when like the share buttons go off, it's sort of a sickness that I have.

My producers are nodding too, but I kind of know during an episode, okay that got shared that got shared that got shared that got shared and I'm also so sick I'm like that's an Instagram clip that's an Instagram clip There's like 900 clips in this interview already and so I'm so grateful to I guess it's rich divini that connected us But a lot of different people did so rich. Thank you for today Dr. William Lee you are amazing buddy You are amazing and you guys should go get his book eat to beat your diet burn fat, heal your metabolism and live longer. Grab the power of one more by this Ed Mylett guy while you're grabbing his book. And please share today's episode. Thank you so much. Thanks for having on. It was so good. Like it was a maxed out hour. It was awesome.

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