THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Falling 35 Feet & Finding Faith: The Wheelchair Dad’s Story 

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

What if your greatest setback became your biggest calling? There are some moments in life that just stop you in your tracks—and this conversation is one of them. I sat down with Dan and Andrea Kotter, a couple whose journey through tragedy, faith, resilience, and relentless love has inspired me to my core. Dan fell 35 feet off a roof and was left paralyzed from the waist down. Andrea met him after the accident, while going through her own unimaginable heartbreak. But neither of them let their pain define them—they chose to build something even greater instead. This isn’t just a story about surviving. It’s about rebuilding—physically, emotionally, spiritually. Dan could have given up. Instead, he pushed through years of surgeries, chronic pain, and loss, while Andrea stood by his side, not seeing the wheelchair, but the strength that conquered it. They’ve blended families, faced down trauma, and raised six incredible kids, all while showing up on social media to shine light into other people’s darkness. We talked about what it really takes to choose joy when life hands you suffering. How faith—real, grounded, daily faith—can carry you through when nothing else makes sense. How sometimes your life falling apart is exactly what’s needed to put you on the path you were meant for. And how you don’t need some “perfect” story to make a difference—your real life is enough. Their content has saved lives. It’s made broken dads rethink fatherhood. It’s helped people believe in God again. That’s the power of two people showing up, being honest, and refusing to quit. Dan and Andrea reminded me—and will remind you—that no matter what you’re facing, you’ve got more in you than you think. And you’re never alone in the fight. Key Takeaways: The life-changing moment that left Dan paralyzed—and how he chose to respond. Andrea’s decision to love a man in a wheelchair after her own heartbreaking trauma. The unshakable role of faith in their healing, growth, and purpose. How authentic social media content can literally save lives. Why real strength means showing up in the struggle, not hiding it. Listen now and share this with someone who needs a reminder that their story still matters. MAX OUT.   👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈   → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ←  ➡️ INSTAGRAM   ➡️FACEBOOK   ➡️ LINKEDIN   ➡️ X   ➡️ WEBSITE      Get my exclusive Monday Motivation training in GrowthDay, the world’s #1 app for advanced mindset and personal development. Visit https://growthday.com/ed. This show is sponsored by GrowthDay.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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team go get them. That's who I want to have on the show. They inspire. They move me, the world needs to know more about them and this couple that I'm going to introduce to you today is exactly that. I've been watching their stuff for a while, I can't put it down, I moved, I'm inspired, I learn and they have a rather remarkable story. If you don't follow the wheelchair dad you need to but he is a very unique man many many years ago 2013 he fell off a roof about 35 feet and he became paralyzed from the waist down after that incident obviously that was life-changing any of you going through a life-changing event right now you want to lean in any of you think you're having a bad day compared to what we're gonna talk about that today he's a

remarkable man he's a real man he He's strong. He's also kind, gentle, vulnerable, and shows all of the emotions a man should show publicly and privately. She is spectacular. She's the brains behind their operation on social media. As I understand it, she met him after this fall happened, after he was in a wheelchair. And together they built an amazing family. I think they have six babies.

We're gonna dive into that, their story, their resiliency, but they've also built a big social media following and she is gonna give you some tips to doing that as well. Dan and Andrea Cotter, welcome to the show. Great to have you. Thank you so much. So good to be here and you're already making me cry. Great intro, yeah, me too.

Well, I mean, if I were to cry, that's fine. Well, when someone speaks truth to you, it hits differently. All right, Dan, let's start with you. I'm gonna, my audience knows me. I need to keep it together today so that we can have a great conversation. So I'm gonna sound a little businesslike, at least in the beginning.

But can you just, brother, like at least in the beginning, but can you just brother like as detailed as you can, yesterday our dog passed away, Lily. And it was a dramatic day for our family. Most people on social media know Lily. I haven't even told the world yet till the podcast right until I'm saying it right now. And that was a really life altering day for our family.

And then I'm like, but I'm interviewing Dan tomorrow that was a life-altering day there's there's levels to life-altering and what you had is a level most people can't even conceive of what happened that day yeah that day we were I was building a house for a friend of a friend we were setting the trusses for the roof, just like the skeleton work, and I was up on the top of that, and we just didn't have the best hands on the deck, running around on the ground, somebody else was bracing up, and I was up on the very top of the peak,

about 30 to 35 feet up. I just remember feeling, I can still feel it as soon as I think about it. I just remember feeling everything start to shift, and I said, oh shit. And that's about, I took like two steps across the board to where, I don't know, I just like moving. And then that was it. There wasn't anywhere to go and hit the ground. The cement floor halfway in halfway out of their garage door and had a trail of trusses and wood and lumber coming down after me as well.

And I woke up in the hospital and it was just a, I guess a different day. As soon as I started remembering everything and different people popping in and out of the hospitals, it was different. At first I could still move my feet a little bit. My foot up and down and the doctors were all excited because it turns out I was like broken in half. When I hit the ground I cracked my C1 vertebrae up at the very top and then where I used to sling my hammer on my tool belt when I landed I landed on my hammer and so in the back it was like my L1 which is about your belly button level that one exploded and Then broke my s2 3 & 4. So basically your tailbone area just got crushed and then broke my pelvis in three places

Collapsed my left lung and tore my spleen and so that was the Mess the doctors got to start dealing with and well But you had to start dealing with a reality at some point that maybe you're not going to walk again. Was there a point where you knew that was going to be the case? I've had a couple people on who had an incident, a football player who became paralyzed. What's the moment like when you go, oh, like my life is definitely not the same anymore? Do you remember that consciously and what you were processing at the time or when you knew?

I do. It's kind of weird. Um, 30 feet sounds like a long ways to fall, but this was like third time hitting that. Oh, what? Yeah. The, the first time, the first time I went three stories down, I was able to get up and my body started working about a half hour later. I was just young and dumb and went 30 feet down an elevator shaft.

There's some snow in the bottom that we'd shoveled in there the day before. So that one I came back out of and then about six months later was the second one that had some heat stroke and fell in a direction of the edge of the floor and somehow ended 32 feet down and that one I broke my femur my leg was wrapped around like my back and my foot was up here and so that was on that one and and actually tore ligaments off of my my C1 the one up in the top again. And so that one I recovered, like they put a rod in my leg,

so my leg was normal again. And like I had to do physical therapy a bunch and move my leg a bunch. But like, I mean, I recovered from that one, felt like I was young and dumb and invincible. And then when I had this one, like I could still move my foot originally. And like, I could hear the doctors, you know,

they were like, oh man, like move your foot, you I could hear the doctors. They're like, oh man, move your foot, do the gas pedal thing. Everything was going okay and then one or two days turned into several more and nothing was happening as far as surgeries or any intervention. Then finally we got transferred to a different hospital and had surgery. When I came out of that surgery, my legs were just swollen and huge by this point. And I couldn't move my feet and do that gas pedal thing anymore.

So it kind of started to be frustrating and sink in that, you know, maybe you're not going to beat this one, but didn't really sink in yet. I still had tons of physical therapy in front of me. I thought for sure I was just going to work through it and end up normal still again. And then it wasn't until about a couple weeks before actually it was released out of the hospital when I was down there in their physical therapy room. They have a board, a white wall, a white board, and they put down people's names and projected release date.

And when I saw my name on that, like it finally suddenly sunk in that, dude, you're like, you're going home paralyzed. Like you're not walking, you didn't beat it. Like I still thought in the back of my mind, like I took the first year off from worrying about anything and just did physical therapy five days a week and any, any chance I had, I was going to give it to it, give it its all.

And so I worked on it that whole first year. And when I left the hospital, I knew I was going to be in a wheelchair finally. And I kind of had to swallow that. And it was, it was a lot going on. One we haven't even talked about all the pain you went through physically right that's like that's that's a given I assume but two I'd be thinking probably never gonna work again because I work physically which by the way turned out not to be true with him everyone what do you see his carpentry

work you're gonna be blown away you can believe what this guy does okay that's why he's here he's not here because he's in a wheelchair, okay? He's not here. It's because of what he's done from the chair, which is what I want you all to lean into today. But I'd also be thinking, I mean, I'd be thinking about all the things in my life I'm not gonna have again. Was that running through your mind regularly?

Did you get depressed? There was a lot going through my mind. My divorce, I had started a divorce with my wife at the time. Prior to the fall. Correct. Prior to the fall. Yeah. She had already moved out.

We were still working on our divorce, but the divorce finalized and I knew I was going to be a single dad still. It was really important that I had joint custody 50-50. So, and everything was going through my head. What am I going to do to provide for my girls? Like I got stuck with the house and the cars and anything that we owed money on. I'm like, how the hell am I going to, what am I going to do to pay this? Where's this leading? And there was a lot of stress and I think that kind of took the mind off of some of

the reality. Yeah, like I was worried about relationships or girls I was dating and curious, wow, that was going to pan out and the rest of, through the rest of any of those relationships or going into my future, what that was going to be like. I knew I still wanted to be married at some point and have a family that was solid. And a lot of fear and unknown, uncertain stuff that I was trying to process. And the situation in the hospital, the floor I was on, was like people that had had strokes and had injuries and other, you know, neurological type stuff.

So I saw, I saw a lot of people that were a lot worse off. What blows my mind about people that go through events like this that end up on the other side, somehow they find something to be grateful about by comparison. Almost. It's like, I'm not surprised you just said that, well, at least I didn't have a stroke, you know, at least I could still think at least I, and I wonder if that's a lesson for everyone listening to if you're going through something, I know you know this, but someone does have it worse, like they've got a great

relationship, they have a beautiful family, they're blowing up on social media. I think they're probably making a couple bucks. You know what I mean? Like things can change from where you are. I mean, I, I say this on your behalf, Dan, if you can walk, if you're able-bodied right now in your life, that's just something we all take

for granted every single day until you can't, until you can't. And I just want you all thinking about all the things in your life that maybe you're just not taking, you're taking for granted every single day. And one of the things, Andrea, I wanted to ask you is like, you know, there's something special about you. And then obviously there's something special about Dan that you saw that of all

the men on earth, you said, that's the one I want to spend my life with. How'd you meet and when did you know? And how did you know? Well, it's so interesting because if you know our story, you know that I was going through my own tragedy at the time that we met. What was it? Tell that lie now, but data. My husband at the time was in a bullet bike accident

and he was left with a traumatic brain injury that left him now like a seven year old child. And we were kind of going through some hard things prior to that accident. I took care of him for several months. It was about eight months before I decided to separate from him. I was only 32 years old and I had two young kids.

And when I met Dan, the first time I saw him, he was sat at a table. So we were both in the therapy system together at the hospital because we were both going through these traumas. And he was sitting at a table. He was looking through a pamphlet, actually I found this out later,

he was looking through a pamphlet of accessible apartments, trying to figure out where he was gonna live. And I saw this, it was like a very disheartening look on his face, but there was also a strength to it. Like I just saw that he was such a warrior and something drew me to him. And that was the first time I saw him,

but it wasn't until months later that we actually spoke to each other while we were both in the therapy room. Actually, the first words that I spoke to him was, you're a stud. Because that's what he is. Like he just, he has this power and this presence and this tenacity about him.

So I actually was sitting in Taco Bell eating just near the rehab facility that we were at. And I saw him pull up. He had brought his grandfather to lunch and he was on, he drove himself. He was unloading his wheelchair out of the car. He wheeled up to the door. He opened the door for his grandpa. And I knew that he had recently been injured. And so the fact that he had already like pulled himself together, gotten an accessible vehicle, was driving, was inviting his grandpa to lunch.

And I went over and made sure I had the opportunity to hold the door open for him. And as he passed me, I was like, you were a stud, a cute little bar. Yeah, he is. I didn't, I didn't really see the wheelchair. I saw the strength that he had beating the wheelchair. Like 100% our meeting was put together by God. There's no doubt in my mind. We needed to meet each other.

We needed to meet each other at the time that we did. We both provided the strength and encouragement and empathy and understanding for each other that we needed at that time as a friendship built. And further down the road it turned into more but. I see the big guy there getting all teary-eyed as you're talking and I think what drew me

to your content first is all the things Dan goes through yet achieves, which we're gonna talk about in a minute. The other piece of it is the faith piece for me. And I'm just curious Dan, in your case and Andrea, were you super strong in your faith before this fall and then it just became stronger, Dan in your case, or was it like after that you found your faith in God? And Andrea, what about you coming into this? This is a big part of my story, my presence, I guess, in my opinion. I grew up in the church and ditched out when I was 17 and moved out, did my whole

thing, lived my own life, and was making all the wrong choices like in every way. Like just was not doing very good. I was having fun, I thought, but then towards the end of my relationship with my ex, I started realizing that there was a lot missing, that there was a lot more to life. And I was looking at my seven-year-old daughter now, thinking, oh my gosh, she's watching me do this party lifestyle, and just watching me

do all this dumb stuff. And she's going to find a dude just like me. And I am not going to have that. There is no way. And so like I really took a look at myself at that point and started having questions and started meeting again like with religious leaders and started my journey back into my faith and trying to strengthen that. And it was about three months.

This was about three months prior to my accident. So a lot of people, a lot of people are like, man, how did you like, weren't you mad at God for all this happening? And I really attribute the fact that I was seeking God and really using that as a strength to build me and my family, my character and everything that I had that as a strength to build me and my family, my character and everything that I had that

as a strength that helped pull me up. That's what got you through, you think? Andrea, did you have faith when you met him? Yes, yeah. I've always been a pretty faithful person and had a strong relationship with God. And yeah, I think that that was helping carry me through a lot of things that carry me through a lot of

things that helped me make a lot of hard choices. And that's been something I've always held near to my heart and been super thankful for. Let me ask you this straight up. Andrea, you first, what's the thing you would say to someone who's going through their version of this? What would you say to them that got you guys through it and gets you to flourish, even though I know you still have bad days? Yeah. Oh, for sure. I was going to say the reality of it is that we've been married over 10 years and we didn't start our social media until three years ago.

There's a reason for that. And it is that we're both on our third marriage. We're blending families. It has not been easy. It has been a huge struggle. We had to wait to start our social media until there were enough days in a row that we felt positive towards each other. I love this. And it was a fight.

It has been a major challenge and it's taken a lot of work on both of our parts. We both deal with a lot of trauma and we had ex-spouses and blending families and different parenting styles. It has not been easy by any stretch of the imagination. But I think through everything that we go through, whether it's health struggles or problems in our marriage or whatever, I think when you have that connection to God, when you have that closeness, it just makes, it puts everything into perspective.

It makes everything seem like it's not so big and you just know that there's ups and there's downs and that's how this life is meant to be. And I think there was a moment, this last health scare that we had when we were in the hospital. You just had another one. Yeah, and Dan was facing,

he had this major infection in his leg and, and the doctors were starting to talk about scary things like amputations and cutting his leg open all the way through to the bone and all these scary things. And there was a moment where this is the first time that I had seen actually Dan being somewhat beat by, by the devastation that this stuff is Just, you would think that he doesn't use his legs, being paralyzed, but he uses them a little. If you watch our videos, you see he uses them to prop himself up and to get into the car

and all the things. And so the thought of losing those things was just, like, I could see the defeat in his face. And the doctor came in and he was basically telling us, like, we're worried that this is spreading to the bone, to the muscle. We need to cut your leg open. We need to do all these things. And that was terrifying to us and for several reasons. One being that Dan's legs do not heal well.

So if they cut it open, it would be a wound for eternity. So we had the doctor leave the room so that we could talk about it and think about it. We felt like it was an urgent situation. And Dan starts scrolling through his phone and he called his mom and he's like searching through his phone to try and find like, who can I call to try and give me advice on this? And I turned to him and I said, Dan, there's nobody in your phone that knows what to do more than God does. And so I said, we need to pray right now. And so we sat there in the hospital bed and said a prayer.

And when the prayer was done, we both looked down at Dan's leg and it was bright red all the way up. The infection was spreading. And for both of us, we immediately, when the prayer was done, we for both of us, we immediately, when the prayer was done, we saw like the redness in his leg was just like dissipating. And we looked at each other and I was like, are you seeing, like, are you seeing that too? And it didn't

stay that way. The infection was still there for a long time. But that was enough for to tell us that God was aware of us and that He was answering our prayer. So the fact that we both saw that getting better a little bit made us realize that it wasn't such an urgent situation and we had time and we didn't need to make that drastic situation in that moment. And the peace of the Spirit told that to us in that moment. Nobody on the phone could have told us that. So I think when you have a close relationship with God, it just helps you put things into perspective. You can feel the peace,

even when you're going through the storms. Yeah. I'm picturing your leg changing there, and I believe you, by the way. I believe that that started to change. Dan, would your answer be different? No, not at all it was pretty surreal as leading like up to that situation and that you're talking about and That we're just talking about it was

pretty remarkable and and did just set us back for a minute and Give us a chance to figure out what we were gonna do. It got rid of the urgency that the surgeon was putting on us. Like it was like the surgery room's prep, the OR tables were ready for you. You just got to sign this paper and then we're gonna go down and got open both sides of your leg and just start and they're like if we don't you could die. Right. Do you both either like going through that situation or even now? Be honest. I love Andrea you being so honest about why you waited to get on social media. That's like a real relationship What percentage of the time you like this sucks?

I mean do you still have those days in those moments where you're just like this just sucks like we have to deal with all Of this or is it just part of your normal now if I'm Really just alone or silent and just thinking about like, how crazy my nerve pain gets sometimes with that other condition I have with my nerves. And yes. Um, where she was like, gosh, like when I really just am stuck in that moment, thinking about it, like it really sucks. It's hard to watch those videos, bro. When you're, when you're in those moments, man, that's, my heart goes out to you.

When I think of your content, I think of the faith, I think of the work you create, and I think of me seeing you a couple times in those moments. It doesn't leave me. Can you describe that condition, by the way, so everybody knows what we're talking about right now? Like, this didn't just end once he was in the wheelchair, you guys. My nerve pain was elevated from the get-go. The doctors were just like really confused. Didn't figure it out for four and a half years and all the surgeries and everything it created a condition Called adhesive arachnoid itis. It sounds really like made up, but it's real

but uh it's just all your nerves in your bag instead of like free flowing and being able to like load around in the Spinal fluid like they're just stuck together and then it scars to the sidewall inside. From that point, your nerves and your body and everything is just really confused and crazy and even though I broke my back and everything's in my back, my left leg is where all my pain is. It used to be the ugly in those videos when you like my 10s and 11s on my pain, like those used to happen like regularly every day.

Oh my gosh, we've been able to get it. We've been able to get it now to where it's like not near as crazy and near as frequently or anything. I don't feel like we get stuck in the, this sucks stuff very often. Today's show is sponsored by strawberry dot me So, you know this I'm a big believer in coaching especially when it's from a reliable source And I think most people should have some

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U-P-L-I-F-T-D-E-S-K dot com slash ed. For this exclusive offer. It's only available through our link. Is there any part of you, either of you now where you're like, this was actually an ironic blessing of some types? 100%. Oh, absolutely. Dan, Dan actually says that he wouldn't change it. If he could go back to that day, he wouldn't change it. It has been, I mean, the fact that we met, that we were able to blend families, our two

babies that we've had together, the faith that we've both built through the trials. Like there's, there's no part of me that would change anything that I've experienced. There's no part of me that would change what we're going through together. Yeah. Reading through people's comments and comments from people, like how our videos or like sharing our lives with them have like literally changed people's lives. Like even people that were saying,

you know, I was ready to commit suicide. I mean, I was gonna be done with life. And for some reason I found your channel and like something in their course corrected that. Or we had, you know, there's people that, there's one that stands out. He's like, I was an atheist, don't believe in God at all, but now you've got me questioning. And you know, but there's so many of the things in there

or dads, like a big thing for me is when a father gets on there and is like, man, you're, I'm rethinking everything about being a dad. man, you're, I'm rethinking everything about being a dad. Like it, it's huge for me to be able to know that, that there's all of this positivity and all of these lives changed a life that they're changing for their kids, for their spouse, for their grand babies, for who knows what it's going to do. Isn't God amazing, bro? That day, by the way, very few dudes fall off roofs three times, but as babies for who knows what it's gonna do. Isn't God amazing, bro?

That day, by the way, very few dudes fall off roofs three times. But as you're falling that day, that God would use you this many years later to reach millions of people, it's just amazing the power of when you have God's blessing. But also, and I just want to tell you the two of you, I, I've been trying to figure out what is it with the two of you that like moves me. Um, because I don't feel sorry for you, right? I really don't. You're too strong. You're both, you're, you are a stud dude, wheelchair aside, you're stud. And Andrea is a studette. So I don't have that.

I think it's that I moved by your will to live and do better. Like you have tremendous will. I think this, if I'm guessing this whole wheelchair thing strengthened your faith and also you found a will within yourself that you didn't know you had. And Andrea, when you were a little girl growing up, you weren't thinking my first husband's going to have a traumatic brain injury and I can't really communicate with him anymore. And then the second guy, I'm gonna pick a guy in a wheelchair. That wasn't your vision for your life, but you've got this thing in you that you didn't know. This will.

Am I right about that? Like, if you're bragging, the two of you are so damn humble. It's hard to get you to say anything good about yourselves. But like, there's some validity to that. I know, like, you could've even had a fight before we went on the podcast today. I know you have real life. I know one of your kids is screwing up something right now.

Like we all have real life. And then I have you with these tears in your eyes right now. I think there's a will to live, but also this will to serve other people through your content. If you're bragging, am I right about what I just said? If you were really bragging on yourself. When you're faced with something,

like you have a choice to make. You either do it or you don't. And I think our kids give us so much drive because like, what are we gonna do? Like sit there and cry while we have six kids waiting for us to put dinner on the table. Like we can't. Yeah.

Like it's just, I think the motivation is just like, yeah, helping our kids, helping each other, wanting each other to succeed. But it's not like I stop and think about like, oh, I have this major willpower to try and do things. Like, I think we've just been faced with hard things and made a choice to like do the right thing with it. You're being humble. You've done more than that. You're not just like we did, okay, you know, we're getting by, we want to do for our kids. No, millions of people have been moved some way or another by your lives. Right? And we might as well shift to this because yeah, Dan, you're incredible. But also, your wife has found a way to present your life to the world through the way she shoots the videos, the way she edits the videos, the music with it,

the messaging behind it, that is like, I think it's the best I've seen. It's why you're here. So what about the whole social thing? Like if you were to both talk about that talk, because a lot of people are like, my life's nowhere near as, I'm not overcoming being in a wheelchair, having six kids, two IVF babies, a chronic pain disease. But at the same time, they could be creating content documenting their life that could change people's lives as well, right? Sure. And it is unreal. Andrea is very special, like amazing woman for real. And yeah, I'll just have to say that and like amazing daughter of God, but she is really just so matter of fact in so many things too. Like she was just saying a minute ago. It's like Daily like if there's any question on doing something and she she like just simplifies things

Hey, Andrea, do you have a background in it? Like how did you know how to do all this stuff? I don't have a background in it other than just like hosting my family along like through the years. But no, I think I just, I had an inspiration, like Dan's inspiring. I just started shooting cute videos of him with our kids, you know, holding the babies and just all the sweet things. And then I love music. I love, like I'm very passionate about music.

I just get really into it and I feel music. I love, like, I'm very passionate about music. I just get really into it and I feel it. Like, often, like, crying when I'm trying to listen to music, you know? I just feel it. And then, yeah, I think we have a story to tell, but for anyone that wants to get into social media that doesn't feel like they have a story to tell, I think we all, as as humans have the same struggles. There might be a more level of intensity of it.

It might be worse at certain points or whatever, but human emotion, sadness, happiness, joy, depression, anxiety, all the things, they're the same across the board. We all experience it. In fact, when we were going through our different traumas, like, sometimes people would start talking to us about their problems, and then they'll be like, oh, but I can't talk to you about mine.

Like, yours is much worse. And I'm like, no, like, you're feeling the same emotions I'm feeling. Like, they're all the same. So people that don't feel like they have a story, like, you do have a story. In the mundane things of everyday life, the hardships of just being a mom

and waking up every day and sleep deprivation and all the things like everybody has a story to tell. So if I had to give advice to someone that was wanting to start social media, it's just one, be real and completely authentic because I have never to this day staged a moment for our videos. I record real life things and then I put never to this day staged a moment for our videos.

I record real life things and then I put it to music and put words on it. Two, just post consistently. You have to be consistent at it and that's what keeps it moving. What's consistent every day? When I first started, I posted probably three or four times a week. Lately I haven't been posting near that much, but yeah, I, it depends on who you ask. Some people are like, you need to post three to five times a day. I haven't, I've only ever posted a few times a week. What made you with the heaviness of your life, right?

Say we want to have two more babies. Like, what made you do that? I was actually doing some work, uh, at our, one of our temples and, um, work there regularly, but like, I think I was just more like spiritually connected. I just kept having this prompting, even though my, my physical normal human brain and body was like, dude, you don't, you don't need more babies. You're already oldest crap anyways. Like, you know, can I get to you this? And, and then like, um, you know, I had talked,

I basically had talked Andrea out of the idea. Like she was like, let's have babies. And I was like, no, we are way too screwed up to have babies. And I was like, who knows like what we're gonna, if we're even gonna be together. And like, yeah, that was just like the real, you know, I've been divorced twice, she's been divorced twice.

This is round three for both of us. It was just like, I had to look at that I feel like, but then I kept having this prompting, just like, dude you need to have another baby, you're not done, you're like, and so finally like one night we were laying in bed and I was like, it was eating at me and I was like, hey babe, I keep on having this feeling like that we need to have like another baby, and she was just like, I was like thinking she was like, there would be glitter falling from the ceiling.

She'd be jumping my bones and you know, like all sorts of good stuff. She was just like, are you kidding me? I was like, well, wait, wait, are you awake? You know, is you like, no, I just said, you know, let's have a, I think we need to have a baby. But no, she was just like, I don't know if I'm ready for that, but. Well, I had spent years having fertility struggles

and all I wanted was more babies, more babies. And yeah, I had convinced myself, I have MS, we're both older, all of our kids are finally in school, so we have some free time. Like I had convinced myself for the first time in my adult life that I didn't want any more kids. So it was quite the shock when he did that. So they had two, everybody.

Like everything they do, they do more than normal people. That was a whole nother story. It was all divinely directed is the answer. It's like one of those crazy. And now we know why. I mean, it gave purpose to Dan being up at night, all night with pain. He was able to be rocking babies and experiencing all those sweet moments when he was up anyways.

And it took his mind off of the pain and gave it, like it replaced it with something just so beautiful. And I mean, that's just the start of the blessings that they've been to our family. But yeah. Whoa. You're telling me that one of the blessings of having these babies is it gave him something to do with his chronic pain at night when he was up and excruciating pain was rocking his babies that's you're telling me? Yeah absolutely. Oh my goodness okay you guys are I'm gonna start crying so okay what

do your kids think of all this? Is this just normal to them? We have mixed views amongst our kids some of them aren't excited about it because they don't like attention and some of them are good with it. But I've tried to be very, very careful with my family. If you'll notice in our videos, like anytime our kids are in it, I make sure that they're with us and they're in our arms and they're close to us. And I am very careful about what they look like. And with our older kids kids I ask their permission

if they're ever in anything I ask their permission first. It's a big responsibility I think to make sure to keep your family safe and there's been some times where I've doubted whether or not it's actually the right move to be putting our family out there as much as we do. It's kind of scary especially with the different horrible things that happen online and pedophilia and all the horrible things that, it's just scary sometimes, but I think there's, I don't want to dim our light because of my fear

of the evil that's out there. I wanna put good into the world, and I've had a battle with it. It's been a struggle as a mom. And is. Yeah. But ultimately it's like, I do not want the evil people to dim the light. I want to put positive out there and I want to be that source.

And like Dan was saying, like, even if there was only one person that had written us and said that their life was changed by our content, like, that would be worth all the work that we've put into it. But there's not. We have thousands of people and it's so overwhelming in a really positive way. But yeah, well, I'm one of them. I wrote you. I wrote you.

I said, Hey, you're inspiring me. When you have a situation like you have six kids and obviously day to day things that aren't as easy as some people have it. Right. Do you live day to day or do you have like goals and plans as a family, uh, you know, for the year or the five years, or is it just like day to day, we're just trying to be good people, put out a good message, live our lives? Like, how do you two think? I think we are goal oriented. like day to day, we're just trying to be good people, put out a good message, live our lives.

Like how do you two think? I think we are goal oriented. Like I think we have to look way down the road, a year, three years, five years. Like that's what keeps you going, like all the way to eternity, you know? I mean, that's why, you know, our relationship has been strengthening

as we like work together and we definitely have goals goals and and things to shoot for whether it's hey let's we want to go on a family vacation like what do we need to do to make this happen and and then we're always thinking of you know the next thing with our you know even with our social media like got to do this and then get our office and you know we're always like have we have almost too many things ahead yeah so, too many aspirations. My answer would be completely different than that. I would say sometimes we live like hour to hour. I felt like we're just taking it a day at a time.

We do have lots of things that we aspire to, but our to-do list is so long and we have so many things to take care of in the house and everything else. We really take it a day at a time because tomorrow we could be in the hospital again. And so I really have learned over the last couple of years, especially last year, Dan had a scare that I thought we were going to lose him for sure. I was the, I thought for sure, for sure we were going to lose him.

And I was pleading with God, like, please, like, let him come back. And I promise, like, I'll be better. I haven't lived up to that as much as I should. You're, you guys are gonna, yeah, overly humble, but okay. As we've had like scares, health scares, been so close to losing him and everything else. I really have tried to take it a day at a time and just be thankful for what we have. Yesterday, I was working in the yard all day.

I have MS and usually I can't be out in the heat and I get fatigued and everything else. I worked in the yard for eight hours yesterday doing yard work and I was so thankful. Like the whole time I'm like, I'm so thankful that I have the energy to be out here right now. Wait a minute, did you just say you have MS? Yes. Yeah.

You just sort of like slide that in there like, you know what's so, I'm gonna tell you you're odd you're odd because like you truly don't think there's anything remarkable about Two of you yet like this dudes almost died several times Right. He's in a wheelchair You have MS you got a hundred kids you add two IVF babies to it. And yet like you do have this pressure. I know what you're talking about. I don't want to make the kids public.

Should we put our family out there? But someone just didn't take their own life because we have it. And someone else just started a business because of it. And someone else went back to church because of it. And these, this couple's going gonna stay married because of it. You are remarkable. Just accept it. It's crazy what you're doing.

You have MS on top of everything. You just throw that in towards the end of the interview? Yeah. Sorry. My gosh. It's hard when you have somebody on who just really is unique unique and doesn't know it is getting them to embrace it themselves. And I love the fact that you're, you know, you're in touch with all the things that you're not great at. But I have to like one of the things that struck me was, okay, they got this blended family.

It's not just blended. It's also blended lifestyles too. By the way, you guys have to go to their social to see Dan's work. It's just unreal what this dude creates. Beautiful work. All right, let's be real. If your gut is off, everything feels off. Your digestion, your energy, your mood, your focus, it all starts in your gut and you know it.

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you think you are, just so you know. I accept that you are perfect people and that you're very in touch with your imperfections, which is probably why I like you so much. But I'm not as big a stud as you, Dan, or as a studette as you are, Andrea. And I mean that. You really inspire me. You do. Okay? And I want you to just take that because you've earned it. Every day of your life, in the good and the bad times, you've earned it, and your vulnerability and your honesty in this interview. If someone was manning the camera, let's just say behind you right now, and the interview was over and they go, man, that was incredible. I'm going through a really hard time right now. Is there any advice you could give me? I'm just curious at what each of you might say to that

person if they're just really at a point in their life where they're hurting, what you might say to them? What words of encouragement or words of advice you would give them. Honestly, I would say to get on your knees. Connecting to God is the only thing that can make you feel the peace that's not of this world, that's bigger than the problems, that's bigger than the trials, that's bigger than the heartache, the depression,

the grieving, like the peace from God is bigger than all of that. So if I'm being honest, that's the only answer I could give. I love that. Everything else just comes second to it. No matter what that person would be trying to say they're going or going through or experiencing, it's just, that's going to be your backbone, your new strength, like work from there out and things are going to line up.

Like things will just, I mean, it's not easy. It's just not going to happen overnight. It's a real struggle and a real work. Nothing's just handed to you, that's for sure. I know that that's where my new backbone came from. So I tell them to find a woman like I did, I think, behind anybody that's successful as a man. They've got a woman that's behind them that's charting it up and is the brains and the spirit behind a lot of it, through history, through different people that I've listened or studied or understood.

There's always that amazing woman that's just in the background that doesn't get all the credit, but it's like, she's the reason why you're succeeding. She then been such a blessing to everybody. And this is really, I love watching the big guy get all emotional here this is cool I like watching that it's good I don't know what you're talking it's these lights in here is is it the lights I don't think it's the lights nice try first off thank you second off I wish continued blessings to your family and you know when you have times where you're doubting whether you should be doing what you're doing I just want you to reflect on today. You just know I believe you should be. And there'll be some

negative that comes with being on social media. There'll be some lack of privacy. But the net return in human beings, because people matter and things don't, as I know the two of you know more than I do, you're making a serious difference in people's lives. And it's not just with your words, it's with your actions and your deeds. And I, I love the fact that you talk about the fact that not everything's perfect all the time. It makes it real. It's not some lifetime movie that you're living. You're living an actual life.

Very, very inspired by you. Everyone should go where? The Wheelchair Dad on social? Yes. If you go to thewheelchairdad.com, we have links to all of our socials. But yeah, our handle is at thewheelchardad on everything. And then Andrea has one that's at Mrs. Cotter now too. It's like her perspective on stuff too.

It started out... I've seen it, I saw it today. It's a great idea. All right, you guys, just so you know, people like this exist in the world. And so when you see all the bad, all the strife, all the victims, all the blaming, all the fighting, all the dissension in the world, just know that quietly every single day, there are these two people and their precious six children just trying to live a better life. Just trying to make a difference in the world.

Just trying to be good people. And they have ups and downs just like you do. But when you start to think there's not great people left in the world, just know that the codders exist and you could find them every single day on social media to just breathe some life into your soul. And that's what they do for me.

Thanks you guys, it was awesome today. Thank you so much. Thank you Ed. Appreciate it. What a great conversation. God bless you everybody. This is the Ed Mylan Show.