THE ED MYLETT SHOW - How To Turn Failure Into Fuel w/ Sean Casey

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

The MENTAL GAME, with an all-time GREAT mindset Athlete!It’s time to get into the mind of an ELITE Performer. Imagine going from not even starting on your Freshman High School team to a few years later, being considered the #1 athlete in the WORLD in your sport!This week we’re going to spend an hour talking with one of the most talented hitters ever to play baseball.However, this show is about MINDSET, not baseball.SEAN CASEY is in the studio, and I couldn’t be happier to talk to the guy they call THE MAYOR.Most people know Sean from his playing days as a first baseman in Major League Baseball during a career that spanned 12 SEASONS.  He finished with more than 1,500 HITS, a .302 LIFETIME BATTING AVERAGE, and as a 3-TIME ALL-STAR.You’re getting a master class on THE MENTAL TOUGHNESS it takes to achieve PEAK PERFORMANCE on those big fields thousands of times over and over AND how you can apply what Sean knows to YOUR life.You’ll recognize many of the things Sean talks about because I also believe they’re critical to SUCCESS in any game you play. That means applying STANDARDS, a POSITIVE MINDSET, GRATITUDE, and being INTENTIONAL at all times. There are NO SHORTCUTS.Sean also has a great lesson you must hear about what happened when he started playing OFFENSE instead of DEFENSE when he wanted to set a goal of playing college ball. It’s GOLD GLOVE stuff.Sean is also quick to point out that GREATNESS DOESN’T COME NATURALLY.  Although it may look that way on the field, what you’re seeing is the result of DEDICATION, PASSION, CONSISTENCY, RESILIENCE, DEALING WITH PRESSURE, and THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.We’ll wrap up with Sean explaining why you should build GAPS into your life and why GRATITUDE, ACCOUNTABILITY, PERSPECTIVE, AND SERVICE are critical to making you a better person and the world a better place.You’ll enjoy listening to the MAYOR for great insights on how to take your LIFE GAME to the highest level!

This is The End My Let's Show. Welcome back everybody. My guest today played 12 years in the major leagues and let me just tell you something. He could flat, mash. This dude could hit. I used to watch him go and that's the natural. He should call him the natural. But then the more I got to know his story turns out

it wasn't natural that he worked really hard to build this incredible swing three time all star. And I'm just telling you guys, any of you that know baseball, this dude could flat out hit. But today we're gonna talk about, you know, you got someone here that played in the big leagues in the major leagues that long.

There's a mental aspect to what they did and how they live and what they do now that got them there. So we're gonna talk about peak performance today aspect to what they did and how they live and what they do now that got them there. So we're going to talk about peak performance today and overcoming adversity. All kinds of incredible stuff with Sean Casey case. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me on. Do so fired up to be a winner.

So came all the way and flew from Pennsylvania to be here today. So thank you for being here. I know you got a lot of family stuff going right now. Dude, I just wanted to say to like before we get get going, like, listen in your podcast, they like, who's the guy? Who's the voice? I'm like, welcome, man. Who is that guy?

The guy that does, like, he introduces your show. He used to do, yeah, he used to do something for the NFL. And I heard his voice. His way back in the day, it's so funny. Seven years ago, I told my team, I don't know who that dude is. I want that voice saying my name. I'm so crazy. And what's funny about that dude is. I want that voice saying my name. And what's funny about that thing is too, is that even to this day, he still can't say my let correctly.

It's welcome to the ad mile it. He still doesn't even say my name right, but his voice is so good. I'm like, okay, he can just say my, he says my name wrong on my own show, but he says it was such a great voice. I'm like, let's just leave it. Every time he does the take, so I'm like, can you get him to say my let? And I'm like, no, it's my let. Whatever. Anyway. So I want to go back to the kind of the beginning with you. So Michael Jordan's got this amazing story. Their own throws around

it. You know, he ends up being the greatest of all time, but he didn't even, you know, make his varsity team a sophomore year. There's this great story. And it's a great story. But the guy went to North Carolina, had a bunch of scholarship offers. You on the other hand, when I say this guy could hit, I mean, I, I, other big league baseball players envied your swing and just were, you know, you're just a remarkable hitter and player. But in high school, we go back like, you didn't really have any juice. No one wanted you. That high school, you couldn't even get a scholarship. You couldn't even get someone to look at you. I want you all to think about this.

They're listening. Wherever you are in your life right now, you're like, no one knows me. Nothing's happening. This dude couldn't even get someone to come scout him. Never mind him offer you money. No one even come look, right? Is that true?

No, I mean, you know, it's funny. We were talking about you, you're out in California. You got, you got, hey, we had nine dudes from high school get drafted. Like what? I haven't seen, I haven't seen nine scouts in my life. California you've got you've got hey we had nine dudes from high school get trapped and like what I could I haven't seen I haven't seen nine scouts in my life in Pittsburgh you know I mean it was incredible so you know it's it's a great story and I you know as I look back and I I think we were we were talking earlier like my dad's in a place right now where he's gone through two open

our surgeries and and all this stuff so you know even more like he and I have connected and and we we've kind of gone back down memory late and you, it's funny when I look back at when I look back at, you know, growing up in Pittsburgh, like, you know, I was one of the better players, probably 10, 11, 12, you know, that goes then you go to the bigger fields, 13, 14 and so I remember being 14 years old and, and I, I wasn't, I didn't play it all freshman year. And I'm like, man, why am I not playing it all? You didn't play like I played a little bit. I was like, man, why am I not playing it all? Like you didn't play. Like I played a little bit. I was like, hey, you're a case of getting in there and pinch hit. And I'm like, what?

You know, so yeah, so didn't really play much, played a little bit here and there. And I remember like a few games into the year going to my dad and being like, hey, dad, help me out here. You know what I mean? You know how good I am. You saw me hitting bombs and I was 12. It's crushing balls like 220 and a gap.

You know what I mean? Dominate, you know? And I'm like, you know bombs and I was 12, crushed balls like 220 and a gap, you know what I mean? Dominate, you know. And I'm like, you know, and I, you know that I should be starting as a freshman, you know, freshman baseball. And he's like, and I was like, do you think you could talk to the coach? Is that, you know, that'd be,

that'd be just help me out. Yeah. You know what I mean? We go, get your dad to kind of snow plow in there and they like, a lot of guys do do that. Well, that's what I mean, exactly. You know, and I think back now is a dad. And I know you do to Ed is the conversation you have with your kid like, man, am I enabling

my kids? You know, I feel like you disabled people when you enable them. You know, am I enabling my kids sometimes? Am I making it too easy? And do I say no enough to maybe sometimes for a lesson, right? And like, so when I look back at this conversation, had my dad go on and talk to the coach, we're not even talking. Yeah, and that incredible. We're not even talking. So he says no. So my dad says, no, he's like, you know what, Sean? I'm not gonna talk to the coach. He goes, he goes, but he goes, one thing I will say is the kid that's playing ahead of you. I don't think he's better

than you, but you're not glaringly better than him. You're not glaringly better him. He goes, if you want to start playing, then you've got to start taking accountability for who you are as a player. And for you, who you are as, you know, putting in the work, he goes, there's a bad engage that just opened up in the town next to us. He goes, I'll make you a deal.

He goes, I'll buy you as many tokens as you want, as long as you hit every day. As soon as you stop hitting, it deals off. I love your dad. Yeah, it was incredible. And I said, you know what? You got to deal that. He goes, you've got to start being accountable for who you are and putting in the work. And I did, I started falling in love. I went, I went to the cages. I went to this bad engage. It was a grand slam USA and, yeah, yeah, remember, grandson, you got a first came out. And I look back like things are grateful for I literally my gratitude journal recently was

like, I'm so grateful that that guy Dick Thomas decided to put a grand slam USA in the town next to me in Pittsburgh. Wow. You know, it's incredible when you think back of your life. Yeah. So I end up meeting a guy on Tuesday night's name Frank Porco. Never played never played never ever played college baseball, but he was a hitting instructor. I wanted to ask you that. So this guy that helped you didn't even play college baseball, didn't play college baseball just high school, and he was making some money on the

side, but Ed, talk about the Vine intervention. This guy knew hitting this guy knew hitting. And all the years I played in the big leagues and all the, you know, hitting coaches I've been around, I still feel like Frank Porco and Bethel Park, you know, Pennsylvania was the best coach. Wow. So I would go to him every Tuesday night. My dad didn't make a lot of money. He's a chemical salesman making like 33 grand a year, you know, so I knew those tokens were a big deal. Yeah. I didn't take that for granted. I knew those tokens. I knew the deal was a big deal, right? So I would go every Tuesday night. It was Frank Porco for 30 minutes, 536, talk 20 bucks. You know, it's a lot more now.

It's not 20 bucks for 20 bucks. And then I would just stay, man, and I became obsessed with the mechanics of a swing all because I wanted to play JV baseball. That's what I was pretty cool. All because I wanted to start my sophomore year, really, right? And it's just, when I look back and like, you know how you talk about just like the compound pounding and the marginal gain I was like I could see myself getting like a little bit better every time like oh man my friend shoulder staying a little better

I'm really driving off my backside. So next year it comes along and my dad was right. He's like man It this is gonna work. So sophomore year. I start JV right and I'm like wow. This is working my dad's right like it's that you know And he was always telling me you want to, and I was like, I'm college baseball one day. He has like, all right, preparation, meeting opportunity, like, be ashamed one day, Sean. If you came, if the opportunity came along, and you weren't prepared, I'm like, and I kind of took that stuff to heart. It was just such great lessons. So my sophomore year, hitting every day still. I didn't play any other sports. I did play some football basketball, but my sophomore year was just playing baseball. But I hit every day, hit every day after school.

Next, you know, I'm junior year, I'm starting varsity and I'm senior year, I'm starting varsity. Now I'm a good here, though, man. Yeah, now I'm like, this works. Yeah, yeah. This doing stuff every day, like, you know, that invisible, those invisible games, he really do work and I was driving balls all over the park.

So we get to my senior year, man, and, you know, kind of another, just a great lesson from my dad. He had just started a new company called Casey Chemical. I've been waiting to do it. He's 50 years old now. He's like, you know what, I'm gonna start it. It was, you know, he was like a middleman

for like, you know, for selling surfactant chemicals, right? And so I could, I saw how much he grinded. I saw like the work ethic that he put in. And I could see now what he was talking about four years earlier. So and every every month I'd come over school and he would be, hey, time to send out the network marketing. He's like, we got five thousand letters, Shawnee.

Get those, get those lips ready because you're gonna be licking those envelopes and sending them off. And we would send them out. He would say, hey, listen, if we get three or four people to come back, we got a sale. We're going to pay the bills. And that was like the kind of the thought process, right? So during my senior year, I had no college scholarship offers, not division one, division

two, division three, right? Just like they weren't there. And you know, remember back in high school, you'd go to those trial. It's where like, you know, the big league teams would come and then you'd run the 60. And that's why you got and you're getting drafted. It where like, yes. You know, the big league teams would come and then you'd run the 60 and that's why you got and you're getting drafting. He was like, this is my leg to fly. You know what I mean?

They're like, this case, you like this here? Does he have a disease? We don't know about that. Got it. Looks like he's ice skating quicksand. You know what I mean? I'm like, so I run the 60s, seven, four, seven, five. I come back, Eddie, after the trial, I'm, oh yeah.

When are we gonna hit? And they're like, all right, these guys are coming back. Any after the trial. Oh, yeah. When are we going to hit? They're like, all right. These guys are coming back for day two. Yeah. They'd go down the list. They'd be like, and I'm like, uh, Casey. I think you left off Sean.

Case like, no, you're not on the list. Seven four five. We'll see you next time. Go to the royal shout next week. I'm like, so dude, it was like so frustrating. Is that a track tryout? Are we going to hit? And I can hit like this, right?

So, so my dad at that point, I was getting not many looks. My dad said, you know what, Sean? I sat down on the mic, I said, that really want to play college baseball, but no one's coming. And he goes, no one is going to come. He goes, no one's coming, Sean.

He says, you want to make, you want to go play college baseball? You got to start playing offense, not. I quit waiting for somebody to come He's like how about tomorrow? You come home from school. You come up to my office Casey chemical. You sit down with me We're gonna write 30 letters You're gonna write the 30 schools that you want to go to Division two division three wherever you want to so I come home from school that day. I'm kind of fired up

Yeah, I got a guy got a game plan. I sit down with my daddy goes here we go. So bam, I went the first one to Penn State next one to Clemson and I'm writing a college of rooster Mary. I'm writing whoever whoever will listen. Yeah. I just opened my mind. I'm like, I'm gonna play in the big leagues one day, but I got to get to a college. Why do your face change when you started to talk about your dad writing the letter? I'm just curious like your face changed a little bit. Yeah, you know what? Because it fires me up. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. You know, it's just, you know, I'm 48 now. It's so you're grateful for those, you're grateful when you look back when you're 18 years old, 17 years old and, and,

you know, you've got a dad that's that's willing to stand next to you when you're when you're grinding. Yeah. You know what I mean? That when it's, you know, when it's, you know, when it's not, you know, when everyone tells you you're too slow, you're this and that, you know, you got the guy next to you say, you can do it. Yeah. Why not you? Yeah. You know, I told you the truth, too, right? Like, hey, no one's coming. Hey, bro, no one's coming. And the, you know, and I think that's the reality of it. That was the reality of it. Like, and then I get, you know, I was like,

when you're, you know, we'll fight with the reality, you know, you lose 100% I'm like, they're not. Yeah. He's like, so we sit down and write these 30s. 30. I just got to tell you, like, you're getting me. I don't know why my eyes are watering. But like, I know that that was a, like, you're not here. If you don't write those letters, you're not, you're not, you're not going to hear it in a minute. But like, you're not here. If your dad doesn't stand by you, you're not here. If you don't play offense, he doesn't tell you, no one's coming, Shiny, no one's coming. No one's coming.

It's just amazing how moments in life can define us. Right? I mean, like even when my kids, I'm like, I hope I'm staying the right. Me too. Do you feel like I'm like, yes. I hope I'm giving the right lessons. I hope I'm not just snow plowing, you know, the road for them and making sure everything smooth. You know what I mean?

Cause the, the, the, the adversity that I had was that, that's where I got my advantages. Right? So, so you write the letters, right? 30 letters. Right before before I'm done I get up to go and he goes hey hey sit back down he goes got one more letter he goes University Richmond sent you a flyer oh my god fly you know now it's like social media these kids are like hey look at my swing check me out look I got millions of followers yeah they're like hey reimburse Richmond sent you a flyer last year from the Keystone Stakeins when you you send them one, too, so band last letter, University Richmond,

Deer University Richmond, thanks for the flyer. Yeah. I really think I can play there. You know what I mean? Boom, boom, boom. So bam, season goes on, dude. And I'm still hitting every day after school. And I'm having a great year.

We ended up winning the championship that year. And my school upper St. Claire, but with four games to go, brother. And it's incredible how this how this works. First, a badmer, we're playing this team called Montor. I get a pitch middle way. Bam rocket left center. You know, I'm like, let's go a couple of libs. You know, next next pitch, you know, pitch middle and bam, right? It's right center. You know, so I'm 44 or eight RBI's, you know, and four doubles.

And you know, bro, like you probably look back at your high school career college career. And you know the games. Yeah. There's a handful of them where you're like, that was yeah, that's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was my greatest high school game ever. Yeah. Hands down, no doubt about it. No, 100%. So Jerry Malarkey, who's the coach at upper cent Clarem, I'm running out to play first for the seventh inning. We're dominating his team. He's like, Hey, he's like, Hey, you've had a heck of a game. He goes, how many hits you got? I got're dominating his team. He's like, hey, case, he's like, you've had a heck of a game. He goes, how many hits you got?

I got four hits, man. He goes, how many ribbies? He's got eight ribbies, Jerry. He goes, yeah, you know what, that's great. You see the guy behind the backstop right there? That's Mark McQueen, just for six hours from the University of Richmond to come see you play. And I was like, are you serious?

He's like, yeah, he wants to talk to you after the game. Oh my gosh. So after the game, I went over. Preparation, my opportunity. Preparation meeting opportunity. And I remember thinking to my dad, I was dad. Was this preparation meeting opportunity stuff? Are you BS in here?

Because I don't see any opportunities. Right. Right. But he's like, he was always, he was always adamant. One's gonna come. One's gonna show up. You know, and I went over to Markle Payne's shook his hand. He said, hey, man, he's like, one's gonna come. One's gonna show up. And I went over to Mark McLean, shook his hand, he said, hey man, he's like really like your swing.

He goes, I mean get back to you tomorrow. So he went back to Coach Atkins back in Richmond, called me off from a thousand dollars scholarship. And I think at the time, Richmond was like 30 grand. My dad made 33 grand, I was like, dad, what are we gonna do? He's like, we'll figure it out. We'll take a second Morgan's on the house,

we'll get some financial aid. So what's the University of Richmond, brother? On the only offer that I had from those letters that I sent out because playing offense and not defense, right? Oh my gosh. Yeah, incredible. I go to University of Richmond. Are you all hearing this?

Just so you know, the end of the story is this man plays 12 years and the major leagues is one of the greatest hitters over a decade and the major leagues, multiple All Star teams. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, on a state either right? It's a mid major. Exactly. It's like big incredible. Go ahead. It's incredible. So I go to university Richmond, hadn't even seen the school show up first day of my buddy Jay Adams. Hey, nice campus. You're taking 45 visits. I'm like, hey, and my let's get him. This guy's going to be leading off for us in three years. We've got a boom, boom, boom, pack 10 SEC. I'm like, great camp. Yeah, and I'm interviewing you now.

Yeah, so you know, and you're the one who played 12 years in the big league. So it all works out okay. You're on my show time, but you're big league career. It's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. It works out so true.

So I go to university, Richmond bro. I end up starting my freshman year, have a good freshman year, freshman all American, like, you know, me and that, bleeding on, you know, but I'm still developing as a player. My sophomore year I do well and I go to Cape Codley and you obviously know that's your ticket. If you get to the Cape, you know,

in that year Todd Hilton was there, Dernerst, that was there, Michael Olson, good players, right? Have a really good summer, hit like 340 with the wood bat, you know, almost, you know, legally in RBIs. And the only reason I say that is because it's the part of the story. I go back my junior year and I, and I, and I, and I hit 461 and I'd led NC division one,

NCA baseball and in batting 461. Incredible. So I think back to three years early or six years, seven years earlier, I'm asking my dad to go talk to the freshman high school coach because I'm not playing. And he just gives me the lesson of you've got to work harder. You got to put the time in. You got to start being a counter before you do. Set new routines. What are your habits after school? All that stuff. And then for me, it then all started to develop. Like I look back and like seven years later, gosh, with the, with it, like you talk about the

compound pounding that pinnade effect that the invisible gains, all that stuff. Seven years later. Gosh. With the, with the, like you talk about the compound pounding, that pinnata effect of the invisible games, all that stuff. Seven years later on the NCAA division was champion. That is freaking incredible. And I become a second round pick of the Cleveland Dance. That is incredible. You know what, I want to say to you, I want you to just to hear this, forget baseball, forget it.

We're not even talking about baseball, even over time about baseball right now. To go from, you're not any discernibly different than the dude starting in front of you. Your own dad is telling you you're not that much better than this guy. Yeah. And the freshman team to seven years later you lead the planet and all of NCAA baseball and hitting and become a second round draft picked a professional baseball and then get there and by the way guys in baseball. That doesn't mean you're going to the big leagues. Then he actually gets to the big leagues and then to get in the big leagues and stay is almost unheard of.

And then not just to stay, it's just mind blowing, right? And what here's the part for me, because I was a fan of yours. He had such a beautiful swing, you guys. I would refer to you as the natural. Thank you. But you know what? The way you actually did it's more impressive. you as the natural. Yeah, thank you. And, but you know what? The way you actually did it's more impressive. You weren't natural.

No. You had to learn the swing. You had to grind. You had to take extra BP and extra BP and extra BP and how did it occur, ball, and how to hit a ball away and how to hit one up in the zone and not have a hole in your swing. Because when you get to the big leagues, you're like, this dude can't hit it. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's going to give hope to so many different people. Was there ever a point where you like knew you were good? I mean, this like you knew you could rake, but even when you got to pro ball, was there still this dude that like I didn't make my friend, I didn't start as a freshman. I played JV as a sophomore. No one even looked at me. I've got a thousand bucks to go to a mid major. Like did, did you ever have that imposter type syndrome or did, where did you get to the point where you're like, because I would watch dudes like you cuz I wasn't as good as you yeah, yeah I would watch dudes like you and go they just know something about themselves I don't know I always felt like guys like you knew something or did you struggle with I don't know that I belong here either Well, dude, I think I think throughout life. We all have that inner critic. That's like hey man

You're not fast enough. Hey man, you know, you had no offers. Hey, you don't, you know, you know, you don't play good enough defense. You don't do this and that. And it's like, now, like, I think, I think one of the biggest things for me, Ed was, um, I, my dad, again, go back to a quick story. Yeah. My dad bought three books for me when I was a junior, when I was a junior in high school. Incredible. It wasn't a big reader then. I love to read now, me when I was a junior in high school. Incredible. It wasn't a big reader then.

I love the read now, but I wasn't a big reader then. He bought me, and I'm sure you've read these books too. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Harvey Dwarfman. For whatever reason, bro. I fell in love with that mental game of baseball with Harvey Dwarfman. Here we go, everybody. And what I started to do was in my free periods in high school, I'd go and I'd highlight. Did you really? Incredible. And I'm not kidding when I say this. I read that book, not kidding. From when I was 16 years old, I retired when I was 34, I read it every day. I read read the whole book, but I did go to parts. I remember there was one party, he would talk about,

just big on the breath. Get your breath, your breath is gonna connect to your body and your mind. So if you wanna live in that moment and reset a pitch, you gotta breathe. So I'm 16 years old, okay, gotta breathe. You know what I mean? Gotta breathe.

Process not results. Process not results. It was in the book, right? And he's focused on the task at hand. Well, he's just not my 16 year old kid and I'm up, but I was like, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Like, take a deep breath, focus on the task at hand. And then I started to learn the process of an impact.

Like hunt the fastball, look a little away, react in, you know all this stuff. But because of those things when I was 16, I could, I started to see that they were working in the game. Interesting. I'm like, oh my gosh, when I take action on these could, I started to see that they were working in the game. Interesting. I'm like, oh my gosh, when I take action on these principles, they actually work. You know, it's different too. I read that book too, but I didn't read it every day. Right. And I wonder how I'd done that.

Like the mental side of the game, the process not results part I really struggled with. When I wasn't getting results, it crushed me. It didn't matter if I was lining out six times in a row. I I was over six, you know, whatever it was, like, I had the results part of it. So many people allow the negative result that's happening in their life to derail the process. Right. And they don't stick with their process or they don't evolve their process.

It's true. A lot of you out there right now, you're driving to some sales call. And you know what, if it doesn't go well, if the result isn't good, you trash your process or you don't build a new process, right? It happens and everything happens in every area of life. So the difference was you kept reading it,

you kept staying on those things. I stayed on it. What about pressure? I'm curious for you, did you feel pressure? Was it, was a, I have to imagine a bat on a Thursday in the middle of the season, if you're not in the race is different than an ad bat, getting ready to play in the post season,

or were they the same to you all the time? Dude, right when you say that, I have a bat that pops into my head. To go like general, yeah, you felt pressure. But I also felt like pressure is all in my mind. Pressure is all what I, whatever perspective I want to put on, this at bat or whatever, that's got, that's on me. So I got to be able to control that. I go back to, I go back to an Abatten World Series, bro.

I was so fortunate. Even that say some of these stories. And you know, dude, being a baseball player and you know, obviously you're this unbelievable entrepreneur. You've done so many great things. But I know deep down you that little kid that loves baseball 100%.

You know, I mean, so like to play in the World Series in 2006 was just so incredible. It was like it was like the dream within the dream, right? Dreaming in the dream. So in the ninth inning in that series, you know, it's my ninth year in the Big League's now, too. So I'm like, I remember telling Justin Verlander, it was a rookie that year encouraged Granderson. I pulled him aside. I pulled Verlander's side, say, hey, listen, don't take this from Grand. You may never be back here again. I go, this is my ninth year in the

Big League's. I have a couple more years left and I'm going to be gone. There's not a second that goes by with batting practice grounders wherever I'm doing in the in the fall classic that I don't say. Thank you God. Wow. You know, I mean, thank you guy, right? Right. Right. So in Verlander a few years ago mentioned that he said I'm really Sean Casey grabbed me said don't ever take it for granted because you never know. So here I am at it's game five, you know, tough situation with St. Louis were down 3 1, Adam Wayne right at the time was a closer, right? Comes in store about 98 closed. Yeah, close that year. His rookie yet. It's crazy. Yeah, right. You throw gas, right? 98 good hook. You know, good change it, right? So, so I remember just, you know, I was ready for those moments because I was like, I'm ready. Like I've done the work all these years and I have a process.

Like so sure enough, row, first pitch change up, or first pitch heater I take it for O1. Next pitch, it shows me a change up by swinging this O2. I step out at, now there's one out and the ninth. We're down four to two in the game, right? But they're two outs away from the World Series in St. Louis, right? So I step out. The, the, the, the, the the the the the roar of the crowd was so

deafening that it was the first time in my career, I was like, well, I failed a ringing in my ear like and I and I and I stopped and I looked out and I was like, what is that sound? Wow. What is that sound? That roar? It was it was a roar of a community saying we're two outs away and you're one of them. And we're about to we want to win a world championship. We want to punch you out. So remember stepping out, felt the ringing in my ears and that felt the energy of 60,000 voices, right? And all of a sudden, I remember thinking to myself,

oh man, I gotta go back to the, I gotta hear the one voice that I need. And that's the voice that's put in the work. That's the voice that has the process. That's the voice that that 14 year old kid, when he wasn't good enough, he now is, because he put in the work, right? And I remember sitting there going,

get back to the moment. And I always say like, I have a buddy of mine, so how do I do this breathing stuff? I go, do it, if you can do it in front of 60,000 people in the world, you can do it in your kitchen, right? You can get it to get it to get it to get it to. So I remember stepping out and taking, okay, I got to really get back my breath, to get it to get it to get it. So I remember stepping out and taking, okay, I got to really get back my breath because

I got to get back into this. I'm going to go, I'm done. If I stay in this chaos, I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. So I took a deep breath. I got back in and I really slowed myself down. Next pitch, bam, I get one and two ball. So I get it back to two, two.

And the same process, I step out,, take a deep breath, I get in the box, I go through my process, look middle way, react in, look middle way, hunt the heater, look middle way, react in. Bam, I get it to 3-2, I think he throws a fastball up in the way and I'm thinking about it. I got him. I got him now because I'm back. This crowd's irrelevant, right?

And you know, you know too, I think I fired up talking about this, but yeah, baseball is golf in a team environment. Yeah. And you work with enough golfers to know, you know what? Hey bro, if you don't have your stuff together, if you haven't done the work mentally, hey bro, you're in trouble. You're on an island. You're on an island by yourself.

You're nowhere to go. And the inner trust that I had in myself, the confidence that I had, and then you asked me about that, the confidence that was really in doubt. After all the years of putting in the work, being in that situation with that crowd and everything, when I was three, two on Wayne Wright, I was like, I'm so glad that I have so much confidence right now in just this moment.

I just have to hunt the fastball, I gotta get a pitch to hit, and I gotta do my job. And sure enough, he throws me a fastball, he hit one of the hardest balls by ever hit bullet in the gap off the wall and they're getting a double But the reason I tell that story is because the when you start getting a protocol for life or a process for life And you work it and you master it. It works. Yeah, and it works in baseball. It works in life It works wherever you want to work it. Mm-hmm, Right? It works if you work it. Like that's it for me. I look back at that a bat and say was their pressure

Yeah, but guess what I went internal and I actually controlled what I can control and get let's get it on dude I am doing the show for a billion years. There's like five times. I want to run through Freakin wall and I do right now because like one that's freaking awesome. And two, the application is way beyond baseball. The applications, you got to get internal. You got to rely on the work you've done. You've got to believe in that moment. You deserve it. But you've put it in. That's the other thing about baseball, though. Gosh, that fires me up. Dude, that fires me up. Jim Rome and suit told us we should do this today are mutual buddy Jim Rome. Thanks Jimmy. Thank you Jimmy. The world is thinking you right now because of all these lessons

that your career leaves. Everyone listens man. If you're not where you want in your dream, I hope this gives you some hope. I also hope it gives you a process and he's telling you that the difference was all the reps that he put on the physical side, but then also the mental reps of being ready for the moments when they present themselves, because that is the separator. I promise you with all the athletes I work with, there's a point where your physical skills in business, in parenting, in sports just will not be enough. And the separator is going to be those mental things that's crazy thing about the mental preparation for life, business, whatever it is.

Is it so random when it shows up? It's not as obvious as it is. Like it's just this, oh my gosh, am I ready or not in this moment? Oh my gosh, don't mind, I equip to handle it emotionally. And it's a, or can I rise to this occasion when I need to? It's amazing. The mental part of the game is invisible, the game of life. And when it shows up is also invisible.

You don't know when you'll need it, but you'll need it. And if it's not there, that's why you become average. That's why you're not sitting on someone's podcast. That's why you don't play 12 years. That's why you're just another dude growing up who was a pretty good high school baseball player. Another guy who went to play college baseball is a really good hitter. Just whatever happened to that guy. Right, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Because that was the difference. The difference is these mental reps and then to stay. Yeah.

The other part of baseball though, is that it's a failure based game. I mean, like if you're really, really good and you're a great hitter, right? You're successful. I mean, 30% of the time, you're dealing with failure 70%. I actually think because I was an okay player and not like a great player like you, I actually think baseball did equip me for life in many ways because of all the failure. And I you have a good saying for what failure is. And I want to give you the grace to share it with everybody.

But just talk about that part of baseball failing what failure means to you and what you did with it. Because that's part of life too, but it's really pronounced in baseball. Yeah, you know, failures feedback. You know, at the end of the day, failures feedback. Like I, you can, first off, in baseball and in life, if you start taking your failures personally, well, then you become the victim like,

ah, man, I just can't do it. And this guy's fault. And this guy's fault. It's like, no, man, it's feedback. What are we gonna do with it? What are we gonna do with the feedback that we just got? Are we gonna run and hide or are we gonna run for it? Right? I always say the Navy SEALs, they feel like they're running for it. Like who's doing that?

Take a baseball, like, hey man, failure's feedback, failure's information. It's only failure failed to learn. Harvey Dwarfing used to tell me that. You ended up becoming a friend. Incredible. A couple years later, the big leagues, I called them. I just called them.

I was 2000, I was like, I cannot end my career without not have met Harvey Dwarfman to tell I'm like, This is the guy who wrote the book that changed his life. Yeah, I'm not giving a basement. Yeah, so I called him and I'm like, a Harvey, you know, my name's Sean Casey. I know who you are. You got a sweet swing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sometimes people are like, A Harvey, my name's Sean Casey. I know who you are. You got a sweet swing. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Sometimes you beat people like, it's got no so I have. Yeah. And so I ended up working with Harvey. And we're getting one of the greatest stories was, I remember I was, I was in 2004, I was really having a great year,

probably like mid beginning of June, it's hitting like 390, which is like, you know, that's credible, right? And I went a time was over 12, right? Went over 12, but's hitting like 390, which is like, you know, that's credible, right? And I went, I went in a time was over 12, right? Went over 12, but I was like, you said, over six lines, I had probably 11 lineouts, I call Harvey one night. And when I loved Harvey, he broke through your

****, he was like, dude, like, I kind of don't want to, call me if you got something good, but if you don't, I'm gonna let you know. So I was like, I picked up the phone one, this one, I like, I think this is good. I think. Right. He answers the phone.

He's down North Carolina. Hello. I'm like, Hey, Harvey. It's case. I was like, Hey, bro, can I talk to you real quick? Is he got what he got? I was like, man, I'm just grinding right now from my last 12. He's like, all right, break it down for me.

What do you got your last 12 of bats? Oh, I mean, first of bad rock in the gap. Jim Edmunds, you know, make some reneclus play. Next one is shot the first, you know, guy, you know, so I've had 11 12 of bats, but 11, 11, you know, rockets, he's like, listen, he goes, your job in the, he turns into like that like crudgy, old guy, your job is the focus on the process. Your job is to make sure you take a deep breath every pitch to get ready for that next pitch. Your job is to hit the ball hard every time up.

Sounds like you're doing your job. I'll talk to you later, young up with me. I'll talk to you later. Let's go. Because he knew you can't believe the failure. You can't believe you have to take the, you have to make the, and the adversity in baseball, like why don't you look forward and say,

that's gonna make me stronger. Yes. That's gonna make me stronger. I always looked at it like, if I were batting, like, I was a lead off hitter, so I try to take a lot of pitches for other guys too. I wanted to get as much info. It's really interesting, the big leagues now,

like that's not really the thing anymore, that lead off guys can still strike out all the time. Like, I never wanted to strike out, but I feel like it's going back that way. Well, you would know, because we're going to talk about that in a minute. He's also broadcast for the MLB network. So he's still very much involved. That's a whole other part of his life.

But, but I would try to get information. But like if I did go, oh, for one, even if I grounded out the short first of battle, I'm like, okay, he's trying to work me away. Is breaking ball does this? He can't locate his change up like a download information from the at bat. And I watched the world series

last night where what we're recording this the world series is happening probably by the time it comes out it may be over right. The big tall dude for Philadelphia two nights ago. Alk bone. You hit the home run. Yeah, Alk bone. You know, right? And they said something to him like the interview him during the game and they said to

him, Hey, what did Bryce Harper say to you? Uh, because Bryce had come over and said, and he said, I'm not, I'm not going to tell you what he said to me. But what it happened was, Harper had actually got out the yet back before, but he downloaded from that failure feedback that he gave it to bone, right? So that's part of what failure should be.

When you miss a sales call, it's not like, I suck, it's like, okay, what did I not say? Where did I miss? Did I not hear something? Where did we lose the energy? Where did I lose the connection? Imparenting. When I've done stuff with my kids and I haven't worked, I'm looking at the feedback. Like, how could I have said this differently? How

could I have a phrase it differently? When I walked in the room, was my physiology intimidating to my kids? Was I loving? Like failure is feedback. I love that term and baseball forces that on you. Because if you don't get feedback from your failure as a hitter or a pitcher, right, if you don't get feedback from that failure, you're not going to last very long. Yeah. Right. You're going to have to figure that. I tell you one quick one, one, one, just quick story. Please, when I go back to my rookie, it was my second year, my rookie year in the big

leagues. I face Randy Johnson for the first time. You know, you go back 611, you know, he's with the dimebacks at time. You know, just throwing behind you. And, and, and just left the only. I was literally was up there like, oh my god. I was like, if these are the pictures and the big things, I'm going to be out of here. So they weren't all like that. It was incredible. So I remember going over for with him the couple punch outs. And I remember thinking, man, that's Randy Johnson. He's one of the best lefties. I got his baseball card. You know, my, one of my mind was, we face Max a couple days later.

He cars me up slices and dices me one, two, you know, two seam right my hip. I never seen it in my life. I was like, I think I screamed. I was like, ah! You know? They're like, it's right in three itself, right? So, so I remember, I remember having a conversation

with myself like, wow, I'm getting feedback here that I'm, I'm looking at these guys that, I'm putting them too much. I'm going to pedestal. I got to get back to controlling like the controllables of what I can do. Right. There you go. So this is what I said. I started to think, okay, what can, what, what adjustment can I make here to not look out there at these great pictures and think that they're so much better than me. So what I said was I've been facing a pitching machine since I was 14 years old. As soon as it leaves those guys hand, whether it's Randy Johnson, Greg Max, John Smoltz, I told

myself, mentally, it's now a pitching machine, right? I just have to be able to get my process so well that when the ball comes into an area over them over the plate, that I got to be ready to square it up. So whether it's leaving it at a three quarter lefty, that's 611 throwing a hundred or ninety three mile an hour slider. Very good. If it comes across the plate, I still got a shot if I control my controllables, if I can control me. Yes. So it becomes that me versus me game. Your brother, I love. Oh my gosh. So you guys, one of the things Sean's doing, we're going to talk about in a little bit is he's got something called think like a pro where you're gonna be able to start to get guys like him him specifically.

They're insights that I'd apply these things in life. And what you just said is like any time I've got something that overwhelms me, I try to get internal. What are the things that I can control even like when I'm speaking. There's like 15 speakers on an agenda. Oh, they're gonna love this guy. Who's going up before me? All right. You know, I remember even when I played, I'd be worried about, even in college, like, oh, it's Friday night, they're A starter. Who they throwing the night, I hope he's not a lefty here. You know, whatever.

Exactly. And I started to say, oh, no, the bottom line is when the ball leaves his hand, it's me and the ball. It's you. And I enough, I have a fighter. I won't say who, but he's fighting in the next few weeks. One of my UFC guys.

And he sent me a voice note the other night because we couldn't reach it there. And I'd say this to all of you to listen just because I wish I knew everything I know about coaching top performers back when I was young because they're human beings. And they actually have a lot of the same worries, anxiety, fears, insecurities that you have. They've just come up with processes and they get feedback from their failures. The thing Sean is saying is a effect. And so he says to me, he goes, here's the truth, bro. I'm scared. He said to me, I'm scared. I'm afraid. And I'm worried. He's the best opponent I've ever faced. And, you know, and, and, you know, I'm just relying on my training and the things we talked about and some of the mental triggers I give

these guys different mental triggers and anchors that you did when you hit as well. The baseball players know about that a lot of athletes don't. And I said back to him in the voice notes, we couldn't reach. I said, Hey, just remember this man. He's scared too. And he's about to face a bad ass man himself. And he's fighting the best fighter he's ever fought in his life. So we can't control that, but we can control is what we feel internally.

So just know this. Other people are afraid when they give a speech. Other people are worried. Other people are when they're not sure they're going to make it. They're not sure. Just realize this, like the things you think you suffer from that are just yours emotionally, your fears, your anxieties are human. And the top people, I'm talking about people that have run big countries,

run big companies that 12 year MLB studs, right? Like the best UFC fighters, the best boxers, the best putters I've worked with, the best golfers, they all have these thoughts that you have, but they come up with coping mechanisms, they come up with things that they can play offense in their life, they deal with failure better. And I just have to wonder in your case, like your humility level, you, I don't know,

good guys never know they're good guys. Do you know what I mean? Like, you're a good guy. Like you got voted something like a war to like the nicest dude in the play on baseball. Yeah, like that type of thing. But do you, do you think your temperament? This is important.

Emotional control matters in everything. Like, I have found the people that last long-term things have a level of emotional control, that people that are flashes in the pan or just all-out failing don't have. Do you think your temperament, I don't know, you're maybe possibly optimistic, friendly temperament helped you? Yeah. Or do you, do you ever even thought about that before? Because you're not like most athletes. You weren't when you played, even when you played.

I remember other guys I knew that played like, dude, he's a shunny. He's a good dude. You know what I mean? Like do you think your temperament matters? What was funny was what was funny was I love first base because I could talk to you. I mean, I'm talking to you know, talking to you know, talking to the umpires first base because, but I did in my mind think like,

when I get in that box, your face just changed again. I'm gonna rip your head off. Like it was a weird, I don't mean that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I guess you just had to think that way. Yes, of course. You know, that's how I, and that's how you thought.

But like, I do think, I do think the fact that, you know, there was a, that my positive attitude helped me through the struggles at times. You know, it helped me to, you know, I would always look at the glass glasses half full, right? Just would be like, okay, I remember when I was come up with the minor league, because people would say, uh, hey, you're struggling, you're afraid. Remember this interview was in AA and Akron. And I used to tell myself, hey, the storm's coming. That's good, that's good, but the storm's coming.

Whatever I told, that was a little trick. It was a game I played with myself. Very good. And I would just say, hey, the storm's coming. That what do you mean? I was like, I'm coming. Yeah. And I'm coming tomorrow, whoever's in,

well, the storm's on the mouth. Good. Because I'm coming for him. You know, it's interesting. So play those games with myself. Now that I'm in your presence, you're a little more intense than I knew. Meaning I knew you were passionate, but like your face change is multiple times.

When you talk about your dad, your face change, you talked about that defining moment. And when you just talked about that. So there's a switch that you flip. Part of baseball that's different than other sports is the duration of the season. Right. It's a long. It's, and it's, by the way, you know, you play 160 games like a 180 something days, like it's nuts, right? Or whatever it is. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a long season. So I have to think the, I think baseball is the

sport that could teach you the most lessons that apply to business because you do have to have some emotional control, right? You do have to, you can't get crazy high. The post season is different. Like, and then I was watching baseball right now. Like, that's to, you can't get crazy high. The post seasons different, like, if anyone's watching baseball right now, like, that's a, it's almost a different game, like the way the panor, the managers manage the bullpen, everything's just heightened different pitches, getting guys on base runs, all these things are different. But in general, the sport is a long season. It's not like the NFL, there's 17 games. Forever there was 16 games. You got to peak those 16 games.

That's it. So what's the what's the difference with the emotional control and baseball that applies to you think life or business? Well, I think well the biggest thing is like it's a one day in a time thing. It's a one-pitch at a time thing. So like if I go out there and and and how you evaluate yourself at times, it can't be so resolved. We're getting that you just fly off the handle right? Yeah. So I could go out there and feel great and go over for it. And like hit a couple balls hard, maybe get dominated. Those guys are good out there too.

They're going to dominate me some nights. I'm like, wow, what's just happening? But knowing that I'm playing the next night, that I got the process I have, I'm going to go one pitch at a time again and I'm just going to keep doing that. Night in and night out, night in and night out. And I'm not going to waste a pitch.

And I think that's the biggest thing. I remember being at the All-Star game in 2004. I'm sitting in the food room. It's Mike Piazza, me and Scott Rowan. Incredible. You know, every time you go to an All-Star game, you're like, Muhammad Ali just coming in. Yeah.

Hey, here's Muhammad Ali. You know, Barry Bawz, all you say. And then you're like, George Bush came into talking. Hey, what's the person that you're doing? Hey, Sean, hey, Joe. Yes, he knows my name. It was like another one of those moments, right? So we're sitting in the food room, bro

And it's like me Piaz and and Roland now Scott Roland at the time is the third baseman for the Cardinals and Pulls is the best player in the game is you know him and Baja the best player's time, but but Paul is just he's just different How he hits the bottom right center? You know, he's hitting 350, but he's hitting 40 homers It just it was impressive and I said Scott What is it man? What's the difference between Albert Poole and us? We're all stars. We're all here, but he's he's a little bit better off as he goes case. Never seen anything like it goes. It could be nine nothing in the middle of July on a Tuesday night. He's in the he's the last that he two outs in the night. And he'll put together a 12 pitch

of bat and then hit a bullet to right for a hit. Guy never waste a pitch. He never waste a pitch. And then I the night fast forward and you fast forward, you know, 20 years and that was 2004 when he was three years in the big east. You fast forward. He just hit 700. He just hit 700. He's one of the greatest players ever. He's got, you know, over 3000 hits. He's got 700 bombs, 700 doubles. And you look, I think back to that story and I go, you kid me. I go, the people that are the, at the top, they don't waste a pitch. They don't waste a call. They don't waste a morning, not to work out. They don't make, you know, they're, they do it day in and day out. And their habits, their routines, their processes are at an elite level.

And that's how you get our reports. And that's how you get Miguel Cabrera. And that's how you get some of these dudes. Mike Trout, they're just a little bit different than the guys at the All Star game. Yeah. That's crazy. And you think about that, you guys, everyone who plays the sport, everyone who plays in high school, then plays some formal college ball,

then the rookie ball, single A, double a triple a gets to the big leagues, stays in the big leagues, then a smaller groups and all star, then a very smaller groups of repeat all star. And then you got guys that are like Hall of Fame players and that little difference, that little thing is what you just described. It's the fact that they don't waste days, they don't waste hours, they don't waste, they don't waste minutes. Okay, I got a couple things I want to ask you about. Yeah. Um, your dad, we were, I didn't know we were going to go there today, but I, I just think your dad's like a centerpiece of your life, right? Like, so you tell me, we're just about to go on life here and you're like, oh, um,

but by the way, his dad's, by the way, had double open heart surgery recently. But I just want to think about these lessons that I think applied to business and life that we learn from. Just very special people who the world probably won't know, you know, and you're, you're, I think of your feeding coach. Yeah. Frank right. Frank, Frank, like, just this guy just changed your life. Right. Labor negotiator. He's still like, just this guy just changed your life, right? Labor negotiator, the steel, like, kind of never even played college baseball. And then he ends up teaching one of the great hitters

of his time, how to hit. And your dad with all the mental reps he told you, just before we go on here, you guys, he goes, oh yeah, my dad was actually a Catholic priest. I went, what did you say? Yeah, my dad was a Catholic priest till he was 30 years old. I went, what, that's not like a minor, it's not like, you know, my dad was once a priest till he was 30 years old. I went, what, like, that's not like a minor. It's not like, you know, my dad was once a welder and now he's a chemical salesman.

Like that's a big, a big difference. Yeah. So like how much of your, I mean, my gosh, like your dad was, you would go to Catholic church on a Sunday and your dad used to be the priest. I mean, yeah. What other things did you learn from your father that you think are really applicable now in your life that you've used in baseball and in your life? What are some of the other things? Ah, man. You're just incredible. Like, I don't tell that story much. I think the first

time I've probably ever publicly told that, you know, but I'm so I just so proud of you know, I Of them and You know, I guess one of the things that one of the stories that you know that he tells and he I love that he tells my kids too is when he was a priest I believe was in Bayport, New York up in Long Island right outside Savo and You know is right in the civil rights movement, probably late 60s. And he was part of four busloads that went down of blacks and whites and they went down to them.

My dad was at the Martin Luther King. I have a dream speech. I got incredible. That's incredible. Incredible. And I just ask him about that. And you know, amazing, because my dad, I think he was more of like, he was trying, you know, back in those days, trying to get housing for blacks in Long Island and it wouldn't show the houses or whatever was going

on. And so the bishops called my dad in, they're like, ah, father Casey, they're like, you need to cool it with this civil rights stuff. They're like, you're starting to get death threats. And I said, and so my dad, my so my dad, at the time, I think was 26, 27, and I said, how'd you feel about getting death threats? Yeah, right. He goes, I said, bring it on.

Whoa. He goes, and I said, why? He's like, because I was 26, 27 years old, was trying to change the world. I was trying to do, you know, I was trying to really say like, what would Jesus do? You know what I mean, in that situation.

So my dad's just special guy. Like when I look back, you know, he obviously left a priesthood at 30 when a lot of priests were leaving in the late 60s. But obvious, bro, this is where you get your heart from. Yeah. I just say it for you. Yeah. It's where you get your kindness from.

Yeah. It's where you get your heart from. Yeah. It's where you get your passion from. Yeah. I'm sure you got it from both your parents, but clearly your father is a very unique man. He's a unique man.

You know, my mom obviously I'm very close with her too. But my, you know, and my dad was, you know, it was almost like it just a lot about how you treat people. Treat people way one-to-three people. Stay humble, you know, just that kind of, a lot of the lessons I probably, what happened when you got to the big leagues? Was he just like, whoa?

Or was he, was it just like, I expected it? No, I think he was like, whoa, I think we were all like, it was like, whoa, I remember my dad sent me one day, he's like, are you, what's the reason you want to play in the big leagues? He said, do you want to play in the big leagues for fame and fortune? Or do you want to play in the big leagues

for service and impact? That's what he said to me. Wow, that's not a normal question. Yeah, that's not a normal question, but that was a philosopher. Yeah. You know, he majored in philosophy. What did you say? And because, it's not normal question, but that was a philosopher. Yeah, he majored in philosophy. What did you say?

And because, you know, being raised, like I think I was like, yeah, servicing impact that, because he was always big on, hey, listen, don't forget, people show up at the night, people show up, and especially because we grew up in Pittsburgh, you know, hard work in blue car people. Hey, people show up every night when they come, that guy just got home from work.

He picked up his kids to come watch you play. You make sure you give everything you got. You make sure you make sure you leave it all on the table. Because that guy, that might be the only game that guy can afford. So it was like that mentality of my dad just like, making sure that it's not just about you, that you got to see other people. Like I think the other thing was like, we talk about service.

My dad, one of the things I always tell people, the most selfish thing you'll ever do in your life, That like you got to see other people like I think the other thing was like you know We talk about service my dad You know one of the things like always tell people the most selfish thing you'll ever do in your life You want to be selfish? We really selfish go serve somebody else Cuz for whatever reason dude the soul won service So when you serve someone else you're like man I'm gonna I want to keep doing that you're so right. I feel so good doing that You know and you serve so many people so many people you give back to, like, man, like, oh, that feels good. Yeah.

You don't hear athletes talk like this, though, show. This isn't normal. You're not normal. Like this conversation I knew was gonna be special, but like, I didn't know who's gonna go to this depth. And, you know, you are, he is working for the MLB network. He's great on there. I've watched him on there for, you know, quite a while now.

But now you're starting to do this thing But thinking like a pro you're taking these things and you said this thing I It took me back you said it to Jim and I like replayed it and then I sent it to my son and then I sent it to my daughter And it's this good. So I want you to share it with my audience about the gaps And I it was so good that I've actually I'm not gonna, I've presented to some of the athletes I work with too. So talk about that, it's because it's a baseball analogy,

but it's a life analogy that's huge. Yeah, well, you know, I was, you know, I want to get in, I'm not, not want to get in. I'm into coaching, I coach, you know, obviously, college athletes, high school, some pro players, and all that stuff, but I, you know, this program I developed, it's called the powers and the gaps. And I just wanted to relate it to baseball because when you think of baseball,

and you know, you know, as well as I do, you want to be one of the best players in the game. You play in the gaps, right? You play in the gaps. You've got to shoot the gaps to be one of the best powerhaters. You're going to hit the ball out in the gaps to be one of the best in the game. At the end of the day, right? Your center of fielders, your right, they got to fly into the gaps to make a play, right? And so I look at that, like,

hey, the powers and the gaps in life too. That's why I love about baseball. It mirrors life. Yes. Like, baseball's not easy. Hey, life's not easy too. It wasn't meant to be. Baseball wasn't meant to be.

Life's not meant to be easy. Like, none of us are exonerated from the uncertainty, the hard work, right? And the struggles of life. And the struggles of baseball, right? At the end of the day. So the powers from the uncertainty, the hard work, right? And the struggles of life and the struggles of baseball, right? At the end of the day. So the power's in the gaps and I thought about what is it, man? So the G of the gaps is that gratitude, man. Are we showing up every day?

Are we connecting to what this is all about? Are we connecting to the gratitude of like, when you wake up in the morning, are you saying, hey, thank you. Oh, man, I got a, and I do, I say this, I say this to my kids all the time, if they listen to the prog Are you saying, hey, thank you. Oh, man, I got, I got a, I, and I, and I do, I say this, I say this to my kids all the time. If they listen to the prog and listen to podcast, and I'm like, Oh, here goes dad jumping off his, every morning, I say to my kids, like my two daughters are still home, calling and joining at her home, but my sons are in college. And I still tell them, and I say, man, the chances you being

here of a human being are one and 400 trillion, right? And you know that too. You win the life lottery every day. Like, right? Right you know that too. You win the life lottery every day, right? And so like, and I think of generational gratitude, right? I think of this. So your parents had to meet, then your grandparents had to meet. And then if I go back to my Irish heritage in County, Cork, Ireland, the potato famine came. Some more cases had to decide to have kids.

And if you go back to generations, it's like, it's so so ridiculous like a 10th generation Grand Prix 4,000 of those people had to get together Fred my let to be here crazy, right? It's incredible So however awesome you think you are an awesome thing to think are yeah You are and I want to tell people that I wanted to I want to be like dude You're in you're a walking lottery ticket, bro. Why don't you start living like it? Right, why don't you start living like it right? Why don't you start living like it? And that's like that's that gratitude right like oh, yeah, I got up

Boom I hit the thing. Hey, thank you for the life force of my heart's gonna pump today a hundred thousand times I have no idea how that's happening It's the ultimate gift. Well, I'm gonna breathe 25,000 times today. How is that happening? Ed? I got 50 trillion cells digest in my food. What? Sometimes today, how's that happening there? I got 50 trillion cells digested in my food. What? Yes. I'm a walking miracle.

And so with you, let's only one Edm my let, man. There's eight billion dudes out there and women. There's only one Edm my let. There's only one Sean Kicks. And for anyone else out there, guess what? If you think life is tough and isn't that, why don't you change it? Why don't you change the narrative?

If you start to look and you go, no, no, no, no. The narrative really is, you're one of a kind brother, you're one of a kind. And we all started to think like that. I don't know, I think the world will be a different place. That's how I think. So when I say the powers and the gaps,

it's in the gratitude, right? It's in the A, the accountability for who you are, of how you think, of what narratives you tell your stuff, of what are your stories. It's also in the perspective that you take, in the P perspective, in your process, in the S of the gaps, it's also in the service. If you want to connect to this world and connect to people, hey man, serve someone, serve somebody.

How many times does somebody ask you for a direction, you go, hey, beat it, dude. Somebody comes up and asks you, hey man, two blocks down here. If you're in Pittsburgh, you're on the street names like two blocks down here. Don on the street name and make a left at the grocery store. Say hi. You know what I mean? Cause they're one of a kind too. Yeah, bro, the gaps that fires me up. I don't know that I've ever felt that much energy for you,

that's what I've done as well. No, but I love it because like, I also think a lot of things in life is in our energy. It's actually how you feel. You're always making people feel something. Right. It blows my mind how few human beings are intentional about that thing.

Like you're always making another person feel something. So why not be intentional about what is? By the way, you are always feeling something. Take some control over that. Take some control over your own energy. Energy is influence. Energy people respond to what they feel way more than the actual words you say.

Like this thing today, people are going to go, that was unbelievable. I'm almost drove off the road. They were at level six on the tunnel. They're at 10. And when it's done, they'll be two. And they're going to remember the gaps. They're going to remember your high school story. But the end they're going to remember how they felt, how you made them feel.

That's how when you think about someone you love, you can't describe like they're smart. They're like, no, it's how they make you feel. Right. So it's the how you feel part of your life. Like that's what that's one of your magic things, man, is like anytime I've listened to you, it's why I want people to follow you too. What's Instagram for you? My Instagram is at the mayor's office, MLB. Yeah, what by the way, what is That's really not easy to remember the mayor's office What's the mayor thing dude? A guy who's the head coach at Ohio State right now when I was in the Cape Conley, he's got Bill Moseg yellow

You know, he was like he was a real serious guy at the time. Yeah, man It's guy. I don't know because guy likes me so serious. You know, me and I'm coming in, hey, what's going on? I'm, you know, and he's like, bro, he's like, dude, he's like, you talk to everybody. He goes, it's almost like you're lobbying for votes to be the mayor or something. And it kind of stuck in it.

And I remember Carl Ravitch one time, I hit a ball on the gap in 1999. Sliding second-based, and he's like, hey, and that's a rocket right there by the, they call him the mayor. Sean Cacin, all of a sudden, you know, it just kind of stuck. So it's because I'm talking everybody at first and, dude, I don't know, man, it's, it's that energy. I remember like, you know, who's your favorite guy? I mean, Blanc's Perkman would come and tell my energy.

He, he come to first. It's great conversation. But I just, you know, I love people. I think that energy is the most important thing. And I, like when, when Romi told me to talk to you, he goes, dude, you don't believe this guy's energy. You're literally not gonna believe this dude's energy. And I already watched you and knew you,

but actually meeting you, it's like it's a fact. And like I root for you now. Like I root for you. I wanna ask you this, we'll have a few more minutes, but like you did go from this dude who wasn't starting as a freshman to wasn't get any looks in high school to this incredible career. That's by the way, you've also been so good, you're stayed in the game, you're on the MLB network, you've been in baseball a long time, right? You're around the game still.

I think people listen to this, want to know if it's worth it. Like you made your dream come true. I don't know if it ever dawned on you because you're still doing it, but you had a dream in your life and you did it. Now you got new dreams and bigger dreams. But you made a dream come true. What does it feel like? Take us into that.

What does it feel like to have that at bat in the World series or look back now or at any point in your life? I'm your father and Is getting older. He's 82 years old. He said two open heart surgeries. His son Sean Casey His son played in the big leagues. His sons on TV. His son's inflow. His son's on my show right now Gonna move millions of people his son is like Really? Had a pretty darn good run so far. It didn't just stop with baseball. By the way, when he played baseball, he wasn't serviced other people.

He did inspire other people lots of guys that finished the game. Talk about Sean Casey. Now he's on TV. Now he's going to start with his pro stuff where he's going to help people. What does it feel like to make a dream come true? Take us into it for a minute. It's humbling I think a more than anything because Because I guess you look back, you look back at your career and you go, no, we moved to Pittsburgh when I was five from New Jersey. Wow, we don't wanna be in Pittsburgh. Yeah, you do, Frank Porco's there nine years later.

You know, yeah, you wanna be in Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah, yeah. I look back and I have so much gratitude for so many people. You know, Coach McQueen at University of Richmond, drove six hours. You drove six hours on a letter? Like thank you. Like thank you to Mark McQueen. Thank you to Frank Porco. Thank you to Jim K. Thank you to Harvey Dwarfman for writing a book that turned out to be just something that like I just embraced. Like so when I look back, it's just humbling because I know I just didn't get there on my own. There was a lot of people along the way. I go back to my first of bat and I just hit

a home run to win the triple A championship. Call me in the office, Mark Shapiro, who's now that he was now at the time was the minor league director of the Indians. They call me in the office. We're all cheering, but we just wanted an Iowa. We go in there. They call me in the office. We're all cheering, but we just wanted an Iowa. We go in there. They call me in the office Hey, case great job great home run. Let's go. We're so excited. Your season's not over You're going to the big leagues And I'm like I got to tell a story and I'm like I just I couldn't believe it like you're meeting a team tomorrow in Chicago What the time there was no cell phones? So I go bolted out of the clubhouse, right? And the clubhouse is in like, as it's in left field.

So I go bolted out the clubhouse, lights are still on the stadium, these cornfields in the back, was literally like a field of dreams moment. Cornfields, I go one another con course. I get my mom, my mom gave me like a credit card back then. Hey, Sean, you need to call, collect, you just credit card, you know, I'm some bam.

I'm the only one in the thing, I call, you know, my mom, my dad answers, my mom dad answers, I go, okay guys, there's no internet back then. You're streaming. I go, I just hit a home run to win the AAA championship. And then I start bawling. Yeah.

I'm like, and I just got called to the big leagues. Like I'm going to meet the team tomorrow, you know, in Chicago, you know, incredible. And my, remember my dad just saying like, we'll be there. We'll be there. And the next day we get to Chicago. I don't think I get to see my parents for the game because they were flying in. So so I don't even I do, but I know they're behind the dish, right? I know they're behind the plate.

And for my crazy college friends down the left, feel like, let's see that. I mean, I'm like, all right, let's keep them down the left, don't lie. Right? So in the eighth inning, Johnny Goura, who was the bench coach at time comes and goes, Hey, case, I'm crushing sunflower seeds. I'm like, just don't get me in the game. I just so glad to be here. Right. He's like, Hey, man, Dave Justice gets up. Now we know these names now these names are Dave Justice. I'm in the same freaking sense as Dave. Just yeah, Dave Justice gets gets up. You're pinching for him. I'm like, Oh my God. So now I'm

watching to play out Matt Williams is up before these guys are loaded 97. You know, that's incredible. Matt Williams, Dave, just getting up there. Hey, loaded 97 you know that incredible Matt Williams They've just getting up there. Hey case you're up So I'm like whoa whoa what so I so I go over and I realize our equipment never came from Iowa Buffalo guys So so now bro and you know when you come to the big leagues you got the one flap you're like we're in a big Let's get you get the one here flap. You know you got the Caller right call to the minor you know you get the one here flop you like know, you got the We're flaps. Yeah, right. It's called to the minor, you know, you get the one year

flop. You like, oh my gosh, but I don't have any Airflap. So now I can start rummaging through the helmets. I find one seven or quarter lefty. It's Tony Fernandez. I don't know it. I don't know Tony. I don't know anybody. But I got a saddle up here. So I go to Tony. Hey, Tony, seven or quarter lefty. How many any I'm about to hit for Dave just any chance to go bar your helmet. He goes, me a motto, it's all yours. I'm like, let's go. So I got a helmet. Jeff Mantto, who is a triple A at the time. I'm like, Hey, Mick, I know you're my buddy.

I need your bad. He's like, take him. So now I'm and you know, too, this, you know, bats are everything. Yeah. The model of the bat you swing is everything. You can't go for your first day being be like, Oh, I've never swung this model before. I need to have the perfect weight balance. So I'm rummaging through the bats. Jim told me, wow, that's like Paul Bunion. He goes back now 40 hours. I start from the mat Williams. I'm like, I can't, like, man he remeer is T141 Louisville.

That's my bat. So I have to go up the man he remeer is. Oh my gosh. And dude, I just got caught. Hey, manny. Any chance I can use your bag. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. Go ahead, my friend. So I go out there. Toey for Nandes, hell. Oh my gosh. Jeff Mantos, batting gloves, and manny remeer is his bag. Oh my gosh. Right.

Well, the one thing that my dad always had was, I called the Jim Casey Fist pump. My whole life. Okay. From eight years old, six years old on playing baseball. Whenever I would come up on deck, I look over my dad with big fist pump, you know, big Jim case. So I get on deck, get my stuff on. And now you can imagine what my parents felt to see their son. Oh my God. In the chemistry.

So I come up on deck and my dad stands up. It gives the double Jim Casey Fisbombs. First time in the history I'm like, oh my gosh. Double through a double. Don't do a double. Double Casey Fisbombs was incredible. So I go out there in my first of bat. Fakson's got him Jeff Darwin.

He paints me like two pitches. I'm in a spirit world. I don't even know where I'm at. You know, all that process. I have zero process. I'm so stressed out. Anxiety. Written the Darwin's throwing 90. It looks like 107. So he gets me to one two and I'm like, I remember stepping out and taking a breath and I'm going, I'm not punching out my first bat. Like get your act together. You haven't even seen three pitches. Your dad's giving you a double fist pump. You got Tony Frans helmet, made your mirrors bat.

What the hell is going on here? So I get back in, I take a breath. It was like that moment about, okay, this is it. So I, boom, throws me one, two sliders, bam, knock to right. Single, first the guy, get the first. My dad's going crazy. I thought I was going to get arrested. He's going crazy.

My mom's going crazy. My buddies are going crazy down the line. And that was the moment where I looked back and I got, I did it.ze my mom's going craze my buddies are going crazy down the line and that was the moment where I look back and I go I did it Oh my god. I did like if I don't get another at bat. Yeah, and if I don't get another at bat That conversation at 14 years old and the guy that's in the stands right now that's going absolutely crazy We did it. Oh, bro. You know, we did it as maybe the best freaking story I've ever Dude This was so freaking good today

It was so good today. Oh my gosh. Thank you, bro. For having me on them. So great. So great Thank you and millions of people are grateful. That story Did you do that on purpose? You just tied the whole podcast together with the first thing we talked about Taking your lead brother. Take it your Oh, I love you brother So think like a pro yes, yeah breakthrough pro where they go. Yeah, well you can go to Sean Casey dot live Okay, you can go there, you know keynotes speak all that stuff You know, but you do you want to do to come

fire up your group. Are you kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? What an amazing experience this was today for me. And I'm so glad that you even exceeded the introductions and recommendations for you, man. You're a remarkable man. I'm really grateful. You've been my life for a long time. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Jesus is good today. If you aren't fired up right now, if you didn't write some notes, if you aren't ready to do something great, you got some major problems. I don't know what I can do for you. I don't know what else I can do for you. I just gave you the juice. Thank you, Sean. You guys share that this is the number one growing show on the planet for a reason, because you keep sharing this thing. Share this thing. Go get my book, the power of one more. And if you really want to change your life, go to the change on nosy or change on YouTube, my show change. You'll see me intervening in actual people's lives and

change their life as well. But man, this is why I do this show is what we did together today. I got a podcast too called the at the mayor's office podcast get it at the mayor's appointment. We talk a little bit, but we talk about the mental side a lot of it. Okay, guys go there. Go get it and thank you, bro. This has been incredible. I'm so, so grateful.

Thank you. It's a 25 out of 10. All right, you guys. God bless you. Max out. This is the end my let's show. I like you, Joe.