THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Josh Duhamel: The One Shift That Rewired His Life After 50

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

What if the secret to longevity isn’t luck—but how you show up? In this episode, I sit down with someone I’ve been wanting to interview for a long time—actor and now wellness entrepreneur, Josh Duhamel. You’ve seen him in everything from Transformers to Las Vegas to his latest hit Ransom Canyon. But this conversation goes beyond the screen. It’s about the truth behind staying relevant, thriving in your 40s and 50s, and what it really means to lead—whether that's in your home, on set, or in your company. Josh opens up about the moments of self-doubt early in his career, the grind he still embraces, and how testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) helped him regain not just his energy, but his edge. We got real about aging, fatherhood, emotional strength, and the quiet confidence that comes from people believing in you—not just loving you. There’s a big difference between the two. And whether you're leading a team or raising a family, that distinction can change everything. We also talk about masculinity in today’s world—the evolving definition of what it means to be a man, and how important it is to stay grounded in spiritual connection. Josh talked about his circle of men who hold space for honest, vulnerable conversation and how that’s shaped the way he leads and lives. He’s not afraid to let people know he needs them, and that simple truth might just be the unlock for building loyalty, excellence, and connection in your team. This episode isn’t just about fame or fitness—it’s about the values that sustain you: humility, work ethic, emotional intelligence, and the courage to evolve. Josh proves that longevity in any field is earned through consistency, intention, and the willingness to stay coachable—even when you’ve “made it.” Key Takeaways: Why being emotionally accessible is a strength, not a weakness How testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) helped Josh reclaim his drive The importance of belief—how it’s more powerful than love in leadership Creating a work environment where everyone feels needed and valued Josh’s definition of masculinity and the role spiritual connection plays in his life How leaders like Steve Jobs and Mark Wahlberg modeled greatness through humility and discipline Don’t just listen—share this one with someone who needs to remember what showing up with purpose really looks like. MAX OUT.   👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈   → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ←  ➡️ INSTAGRAM   ➡️FACEBOOK   ➡️ LINKEDIN   ➡️ X   ➡️ WEBSITE      Get my exclusive Monday Motivation training in GrowthDay, the world’s #1 app for advanced mindset and personal development. Visit https://growthday.com/ed. This show is sponsored by GrowthDay.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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that you might have heard like Transformers. One of my favorite TV shows of all time was Las Vegas. He's appeared in that and totally disconnected from being on the show. This has nothing new with him being here today. I've been watching Ransom Canyon on Netflix right now, which is his new program that's out there. My wife and I have binge watched like seven episodes in a row. It's really, really good and he's outstanding at it.

And so I've always wanted to pick his brain. Then I find out he's become a wellness entrepreneur. And so I want to pick his business brain on top of all of that. So it's really cool to have Josh Duhamel here today. Welcome to the show brother. Yeah, that's very sweet of you. I'm glad to hear you're liking Nadsum Canyon too. It's really good.

Well, you're outstanding in it. I don't know about the first scene, it opens up with you in the shower there. That was a little weird to watch with my wife. I know. Well, originally first scene, it opens up with you in the shower there. That was a little weird to watch with my wife. I know. Well, originally that scene showed my bare ass. Okay. Thank you. Maybe it's because I'm, uh, I'm not sure why that maybe, maybe it's sagging. I don't know. Maybe I need to do more squats, more squats for us.

I'm not sure why. Hopefully the testosterone is helping you with that a little bit. At least it helped me. So, so let's start, let's talk business first a little bit. We'll talk acting. By the way, my mom is an All My Children fan. So this is like a really special interview for her today. A lot of you don't know,

but that's basically where this man got his start. Is that right? Was that like when your first big things was All My Children? Yeah, yeah. That was my first real opportunity. Like I saw an old clip of that today. I'm doing some press here for Ransom Canyon in New York and I saw an old clip from 2006. Wow.

And yeah, those are the days on all my children back when I was 29, 30 years old. Is there any part of you that goes, I went from that to doing Transformers movies and now I produced and now, I mean, is there a part of you that's kind of blown away by your longevity? I mean, even that alone. I do feel very lucky, you know, and we could talk about that, you know, why that is, you know, manager of mine, John Carabino, one of the, you know, my biggest advocates early on in my career and then all the way through, he's not in the business anymore, but he's an amazing dude and he always said, just keep showing up.

You know, just keep showing up. Even if you're not 100%, you got to keep showing up and good things will happen. And that's really as simple as it is, I think. You know, as long as you just greet people with respect, work hard and do a good job and you'll keep working. I mean, it's been good and I do feel lucky for sure. Well, you know, but yeah, in your business, it's, it's, it's, it's been good. And I do feel lucky for sure. Oh, you know, but yeah, in your business, it's pretty rare to have the length of career that you've had. I mean, it's,

I mean, I've had a bunch of friends who have had one or two good movies or a good TV show, but then like, you know, they run around Hollywood now recognized sometimes and it's a hard life when you were well known and then you're not, you know, and one of the reasons I want to have you on the team's like, Hey, you know, he's like become an entrepreneur on like longevity and health. And so it kind of ties everything together. I want to cover with you today, but I want to start with the business side of it because everyone that you get interviewed by is going to start talking with Netflix and movies.

I want to talk business first and we'll go back there a little bit. When I turned 45, uh, stuff on me started turning south. Like you're talking about your booty, right? Like everything with me, my energy level, my drive. And when I say drive, I mean my drive in every imaginable way started to kind of shift a little bit. And it's sort of like, you don't want to admit it as a dude. I'm in the gym every day. It's not like I wasn't working out. It wasn't like I wasn't eating pretty well, but just stuff started changing.

Yeah. And I got tested and found out, you know, internally I was an old, I was becoming an old man with my hormones. Is that how you ended up? I want you to talk to them about Gatlin a little bit. And this is surprising that you're public about this because a lot of guys in your space aren't going to give any of their secrets away of how they've had longevity or still look like you look.

So how did all this come to pass? Well, that's a really great way to sort of entree into this. I think that I was the same way, you know, I started feeling like I was apering off, you know, I just didn't have the same drive. I didn't, I couldn't keep muscle on. I didn't have drive in a lot of different areas of my life. I think that that was kind of where it began. I wanted to stay athletic, able to continue working.

And also, the truth is, I had kids at a late age. I had Axel when I was 40 and I have a 15 a 15 month old kid now and I just really, really wanted to stay is, I want to get down the dirt and roll around with them. You know, I want to be able to do the things that they deserve. It is a taboo thing. Guys don't want to talk about it, especially the TRT that's the software replacement therapy. I think that it's one of those things that guys for whatever they feel less manly talking about or whatever the reason is, guys just don't talk about it. And I almost didn't do this for that reason. Really?

I had some representatives of mine tell me not to do it. And the more I thought about it, I was like, why not? Because this has improved my life tremendously. Guys were asking me what I was doing and I didn't want to talk about it. I just told them that I was eating really well and working out. But the truth is, I was doing and I didn't want to talk about it until I just told them that I was eating really well and working out. But the truth is, I was doing a TRT and I think that, you know, it's part of the reason I wanted to get into this business was to share my experience, you know, how much it's helped me and to help improve other guys' lives around the world. And by the way, it's Gatlin, right?

Is it gatlin.com? Where do they go? gatlin.com? Where do they go? Gatlin.com? Yeah. G-A-T-L-A-N.com. I have to be honest with you. Um, it changed my life. It literally changed my life. Do you think somehow genetically you're weaker if your hormone levels are lower? It's such a silly thing, right? So is that what you did?

You got tested and then ended up doing TRT just to be specific if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah, I got tested and my levels were low. They weren't super low, but they were low enough to where it was, I could feel that it was affecting me. But I wanted to do it because I wanted to feel like I just wanted to get that, that oomph back that I, that I felt in my early thirties, late twenties, early thirties. And that's what I did. And you're right. It does. It really does change. Uh, it just changes your world. I wanted to make sure I asked you this when we were talking about the physical, you've had a long career and actually you're thriving now.

You could argue more than ever between the new show plus, plus the fact that you're producing, you know, these buddy games, all this stuff you've done, which by the way, is hilarious. That is so good. But ransom, like what, how much of this longevity and hitting your prime in your forties and fifties? Cause I almost kind of our demo is not just physical, it's mental and emotional for you. And are there things you do to feed yourself mentally and emotionally like that are your hacks at your level?

Yeah, really good question. You know, part of what we do at Gatlin too is it's not just about prescribing things. You can get all kinds of things, whether it's longevity stacks or GLP-1 for testosterone or hair replacement, ED, whatever. But our whole mantra is that, yeah, you can take that stuff, but you also have to change your habits a bit till you've got to still work hard. I mean, you clearly work your ass off in the gym.

I eat pretty well. I work out pretty regularly. Not as hard as I probably could or should, but I am pretty regimented about it. I do yoga, which is really helpful for both my flexibility, my core and my mind. Yeah, I just started that too. Yeah, it's amazing.

And then, you know, I'm not afraid to, I have a group of guys that I talk to regularly about stuff that guys don't usually talk about. And I think that that's one thing that we wanna make okay in the male population too, that it's okay to talk about this stuff because we deal with stuff that a lot of times we sort of push down. Kip really helpful and it's changed my world in a lot of ways just because, you know, for my relationships, uh, my, my, my ability to be a friend, to be a dad,

all those kinds of things. So the Taco Bell thing's been dropped or not? Like I do my research on people. So this thing where you were like totally into Taco Bell for a while and talking about it, have you dropped that or like the testosterone power through the Taco Bell? You know, Joe Kaczynski directed those, the guy that, the, uh, uh, uh, Top Gun Maverick. Yep.

They were really well directed. I mean, this guy is super talented, even at Taco Bell commercial. Um, but yeah, uh, I'm not afraid to eat some Taco Bell once in a while. I think that's really important that people know that when people meet my kids in public, they'll be like, so what's your dad like? You know, he never sleeps. He's they're like, he's actually, you know, you know, likes Netflix, lays on his back, eats Doritos, but at the same time has this discipline part of his life as well. So everything in moderation, including moderation.

I love that. I totally love that. I don't want you to be humble for a minute. Like, you can't last as long as you've lasted in the business you're in. I'm gonna give you a secret. I ask around about guys that are gonna be on my show. So I have a bunch of friends in the business and one of the things they all tell me is like he's actually a genuinely wonderful guy. Like he treats people great. He shows up on time. He's really good at what he does. So I've heard these things about you, right?

So that's baseline to me though. What are you great at? Like, don't be humble. What people listen to is like, I want to be elite in my career as well. And you're a real humble dude, but don't be for a second. What what's your secret thing? Like, what are you great at? That's made you mean you've had a career that's, you know, what, three decades out now or four? I don't know. Three decades, I guess. Three decades. So so what is it?

Honestly, man, I feel like I've always had to really outwork everybody because for the longest time, I didn't feel like I belonged in this business. I had to like really go to places, you know, in the acting stuff, especially for like scenes that required you to go dark, I would go there, I'd really go there. And it probably wasn't the most healthy thing, but I think in retrospect, it was kind of therapeutic and cathartic in a way because I worked through some stuff. I've always had to work, feel like I've had to work harder. I let myself be emotionally accessible, I guess. That was one thing I had to, I knew that I always could do it when I first got into this business. I knew I had the ability

to do it. It was just getting past the fear of looking stupid, the fear of embarrassing myself. And when I got past the point of not caring what people thought and was okay with looking stupid is when I really sort of broke through. And I've always kind of stuck with that. And then just be, I just like, I don't know, honestly, I just, as far as the acting stuff, I think that's what it is. And I'm, and I, and honestly, I feel like I've, I really don't feel like I've made it. I feel like I'm still having to grind. It's still have to grind every day. I'm lucky that I do coaching too. And so I just signed somebody who used to run a country, a pretty big one.

I'll leave it at that. I'm never going to say the gender, but anyway, this person and I, with the first conversation, they ran a large country, like a very important one. And they said to me, I still don't feel like I've made it. And I thought that is such a unique thing in people that are successful, that they end up, they have this nuance and I think you have it. I want to ask you about this. And I like this in my friends. They have confidence. They're not, they have self-confidence because if someone doesn't have self-confidence, you're going to be carrying them through their entire life. You've got to have some level of self-confidence,

but they have this equal measure of humility and they kind of toe this line. So people with no confidence don't end up ever achieving anything because you're going to get what you believe you're capable of. But people with no humility end up not working as hard, taking things for granted, treating people a particular way. Does that make sense when I say it out loud to you, the humility thing with the confidence? And if you're being honest about you, is that a decent description? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I have a lot of sort of anecdotes that that that back that up. I mean, the great ones like Michael Jordan or the other ones, they have this unique God-given

talent, but they don't just rely on that. They also have this, I don't know if it's ego driven or what it is that forces them to have, they feel like they got to keep working. And that combination, I think, is what makes guys like that great. My dad's always been really, without even meaning to, has been really influential, very wise in a lot of ways. But in a very simple way, he said, I remember he just said to me one time, because we used to have this used car dealership on Broadway in Minot, North Dakota, where I grew up. And next door to that was the last house on Broadway. They were sort of tearing everything down and building

new things that were going to be on the main street in town. But this old guy was the last house on Broadway. They were sort of tearing everything down and building new things that were going to be on the main street in town. But this old guy was the last holdout and he has a really, it was a shack of a house. And I asked him, is he poor? And my dad said, no, he's not poor. He's rich because he's a good human who treats people right. And I'll never forget that. I don't know if those are his words exactly, but it was, he was rich because he didn't, not because he had all the material things, but because of the way he lived his life. And I think that's really stuck with me. And so when I'm on a set, you know, I don't care who you are, if you're the, if you're the network resident, or if you're a PA who's just starting, they still, I still treat them all the same. And I think that that's really helped me because I think that they have people always

deserve that, you know, human respect and dignity. By the way, that's what I hear about you. Obviously you're a great actor. You can't go this long without being great. You have to be great at it. But there's a lot of people that are great. By the way, I just heard a Jordan thing. You'll get a kick out of this. So everyone knows the story that he was cut from his high school team and all that stuff, right? Whether that's even accurate or not, I'm not even completely true. It's hard for me to believe Michael Jordan couldn't make his high school JV basketball team, but that's the story. But a story that I know to be true because his trainer Grover is a good friend of mine. Did you know that the entire time he was with the Bulls, he never lost a sprint

in practice? So, he was that big of a freak about competing and you know, a lot of the guys don't even want to practice right there at this level anymore. Not only does he get practice when they'd run sprints, he made sure he won every sprint. That was every year he was a Bull, no one beat him in sprints. Just want everyone to hear hear that about that's the little secret stuff behind the scene of greatness I think. Yeah, it's just pure work you know and I think that's why you're so great. So hey guys I want to jump in here for a second and talk about change and growth and you know by the way it's no secret how people get ahead in life or how they grow and also taking a look at the future. If you want to change your future, you've got to change the things you're doing. If you continue to do the same things, you're probably going to produce the same results.

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It's just who comes to mind, something you modeled or you saw when you were younger, anyone you've worked with? I mean, Wahlberg is a pretty good example of that. Wahlberg doesn't stop, he's to bed early and up super early every day. That's the one that comes to mind. You know, there's all the guys that I've worked with early, they all have this really specific sort of attention to detail thing that they do. You know, there's a lot of shit that I need to work on too. You know, I could be better about, you know, I could do more.

I really could. But you know, I'm doing the best I can. And, you know, but I look at guys like that, I was like, wow, I don't know, I'm, I'm doing the best I can. And, uh, you know, but I look at guys like that, I was like, wow, I don't know if I could go to bed at seven 30 and wake up at three 30 every day. Yeah, he does. That's another level, man. And that's what he does. So it's actually true. Our, our, our daughters are roommates. And so, uh, yeah, it's all really, it's very true. Like it's,

you're right though, by the way, cause it's like, I'm sort of known as a disciplined workout guy or whatever in business. And that like really not, cause I ended up with 330 doing that crap that he's doing. It's like unbelievable. So it's, it's, it's one of the names that comes to mind for me too. Same person. Yeah. I don't want to be too personal, but I do want to ask you since you brought Mark up, here's what I try to do when I have somebody on like you. And I know there's not anyone specifically like you, but like I want to,

I want the audience to go, okay, I'm not an actor. I'm not whatever you are six, three or whatever. I'm not like classically good looking, whatever it is, but what are the elements? What are the things in play? Like what's the recipe that makes somebody successful? And so I try to pick those things out and what I find with people that are in your profession, a lot of the times they have a hard time telling me. Like they just do things unconsciously well. They're like and because you're great at something, you take it for granted. Well, you know,

I work hard, I guess I'm pretty good at this, but like so you take it for granted because it's something you've lived with for so long. You've said before, you know, your father, there's humility that you carry with you. Mark's very public about his Catholic faith. And I don't, we don't have to go deep into your faith, but I just want to know faith in general in your life. How important has that been to keep you grounded and have some humility and is that a place you go to for some answers in those dark times that you referenced? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I find that there's a direct correlation between how connected I am spiritually

and how I'm operating out in the real world. You know, if I'm really connected and I'll go through phases, sometimes I'm a lot more connected and I'm just a better dad, I'm a better friend, I'm a better brother, I'm a better coach. And when I'm not, I can feel it. And that's when I feel like that's why I truly believe that it's important to stay connected. You don't have to be super religious. To me, it doesn't matter what religion you are. But if you're connected spiritually, you tend to operate on a higher vibration,

you know, and there's something, there's some, there's that, the energy about that, I think, is what is attractive to people. And I know that when I'm connected spiritually, I'm a lot more attractive and a lot more easy to be with and to work with and to, you know, that to me is, I think is what it is. I brother, I just an hour ago, I was doing a show that's mine, my solo episode. And I said that exact sentence. I said it's a high, it's a higher vibrational frequency. Because a lot of times when you're religious or you believe in a particular faith like it's you're not supposed to talk about frequencies and energy and all this other stuff you're supposed to just be in like your

bible or whatever your your quran or whatever it is i actually kind of navigate both worlds i'm a person of really deep faith i'm a christian but i actually energy is obvious i think the reason you're successful and i think the reason most people are successful and it's the reason it's so hard to quantify and define is that there's a particular energy they bring to the things they do. And you feel something when you're in your presence, you feel something when you work with them. And in your case, it's a unique thing, very special thing that you have, that you can transfer energy through a camera. That's extremely special that not everybody can do that. Some people it's lost in a, they only have it one-on-one

or they can have it in big groups, but not one-on-one. You've met people like that. There are these great singers in front of big arenas. You meet them one-on-one and you don't feel the same thing. Yeah. And then where you're unique, I think it's the energy that most people bring. And if I were to mention people that you admire in your life,

I bet you, maybe I'm wrong. I bet you it was like what you felt when you were in their presence or when you watched them perform. It's the energy, that's the frequency. Marshall? Yeah, that's so fascinating. I love this stuff because it is, you're right, it is a spiritual thing, it is something that's sort of undefined, that's why they call it faith. But I also like to look at it scientifically too because there is something real about I also like to look at it scientifically too, because there is something real about the energy that you give if you're connected spiritually, because it sort of goes through you and people feel that, you know.

I'm not perfect about it, believe me. I've gone through phases where I'm hardly connected at all. And sometimes I really am. That's why it's just such a great reminder that you know, whatever your higher power is, stay connected to that because you're, it'll, it's a lot, so the world's a lot safer place when you're connected. Amen. By the way, everyone, everyone listening like really evaluate that part of yourself. You're always making people feel something. You are. So if you're more intentional about what it is, like, like I, I'm pretty good at energy. Like speaking, I speak on big stages, 20, 30,000

people. I can transmit energy to a room. I don't know if I'm as good one-on-one. I'm pretty good at this thing we're doing. You obviously you're great at the way you treat people around you. As you said, whether that's the grip or that's the leading actor, but you also have a unique skill that you can bring energy through a camera into someone sitting in a crowd or in their home. That's unique energy. A great school teacher can do it in front of a classroom. A painter does it when they paint.

Uh, you know, there's different ways that you can do this in your life, but it's if you're cognizant on the energy you bring to something, you're going to be re by the way, you said scientific, this will trip people out. Were you a biology major? Yeah. And that you do not look or sound like a biology major to me. Not that I know what that looks or sounds like, but like it trips me out. I was, I was not an easy path. You know, it took organic chemistry twice.

There's a few, there's a few that I stumbled on, but yeah, I made it through. And I think that this is true. And I talk about this a lot too. You know, yeah, I have a biology degree and I don't use it, but I got it. And I think that I think that, and I tell, I tell my son this too, and I want to talk, I have a question for you about your kids too. It doesn't matter. I mean, ideally, if you're going to go spend that money and get your degree, you want to use it out there in the real world. But the real, I think the real thing is with getting a, you know, that degree and you don't need it to go be super successful. But if you're going to start it, you should finish it because if you don't, that might be your habit going forward is

not something something and not finishing it. It's going to be tough, you know, and let me, can I ask you a question really quick about your kids? Yeah, please. How many do you have? I have two. I've got a boy and a girl. They're both ones out of school and playing golf and business and the other ones in college. So let me ask you this. As a successful guy, did you go? What do you what was your upbringing? Did you grow up?

Lower middle alcoholic dad who got recovery who got sober. So lower middle class and definitely a little trauma in my upbringing, but a great dad once you got sober. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Soraya's an amazing thing. So how do you pass on the things that you had to learn to your kids? Because we work so hard to give our kids what we didn't have.

I'm not sure we're doing them any favors. Yep. Because they're not having to go through the same kind of struggle that we did, but you can't just manufacture that struggle either. It's such, it's the rub of having a little bit of success in your life. It's the hardest thing. And I've, I, when I was young, I'd ask my buddies this. I remember my daughter came out of, I think it was second grade one day, I picked her up from second grade and she gets in the car and she just looks surprised. They said, what's going on honey?

And she goes, daddy, are we rich? And I said, why would you ask for that? She said, well, all the kids in school say that we're really rich. And I go, oh, I don't know. I go, how much money do you have? She goes, I have like $3. I go, well, you're definitely not rich. I don't know if I am or not, but I know you're not. But I, but I did stuff like, you know, I believe as a dad and I believe this is a leader in anything like most stuff is caught, not taught. Yeah. Like the way you described your dad earlier. You can't even quite remember the exact words.

It's just like I watched my dad's example. I watched how he treated people. I watched what my dad valued. So my kids, even though, you know, one of the things I really admire about you is you've kept going, you know, I'm sure they paid you pretty well for these Transformers movies, right? And so one of the things that, you know, I remember I could have probably stopped working a little bit more when my kids were young and I'm like, no, they're going to model what I do now. Not what I did before they were born. I want them to see what work looks like, what time I'm up in the morning,

how I handle my life, that I actually travel and work and that I help people. Because I want them to catch these things. The other thing is like, I, you know, I made them buy their own first cars. Like I actually tried to fabricate a struggle, so to speak, because you're my number one. We're off the course here a little bit But I will say this to you the number one thing of my friends that get to our age or a little bit older that Harms them in their life is their screwed up adult kids

Screwed up adult kids that they end up having so they got it they put together they finally get to 50 or 60 man I got a couple bucks. I'm I belong to a country club. I got a good car I got a lake house or whatever. And I'm like, well, what's the worries in your life? My 28 year old son, my 26 year old alcoholic, you know, like, so it's like this thing you do with kids at this age really does matter. And, uh, and then obviously you got to have a great mom, which I'm sure in your case you have the mom part, like made my life easy.

I was decent. I had a great mom raising mine. So that's, that's literally what worked for me. The other thing I want to ask you about, cause we only have limited time. It seems to me like you, I mean, he, you guys go from North Dakota. I remember the first time I saw you on the Vegas show. I'm like, ah, this dude's like a ho some Hollywood dude son for sure. Kind of tell what he looks like.

This dude is clearly somebody's kid. He's silver spoon. I mean, I literally thought that for a long time about you until I read, no, actually North Dakota, that's just not like a hot bed of Hollywood actors coming out of North Dakota, right? And, and so I, I wonder, you know, about you, like how that kind of shaped your upbringing, but then also, you know, like you, like how that kind of shaped your upbringing. But then also, you know, like if I met that guy in North Dakota, what did he think

was like masculine or a dude, like at that time of his life, even twenties or thirties, and then compare that to now, like what you think a man is or what masculinity is. And is there a contrast? Do you believe something completely different now? Wow. It's such a good question. Um, Ed, you're making me think here. I'm doing that. It's it's it's it is because we were asked this a lot now. I mean, we've been challenged about what what it is to be a man, you know, and I think that there's been a big pushback as to what we were told we're supposed to be and what men are actually being like, no, this is what we are. You know, I think

that there's a... But there's something that we can learn in that too. And that for me, it's a lot about what you talked about and how it's about the example you set. It is okay to be the mask and then energy in a relationship or to your kids because I like you said the mothers are important but those dads are important too. You know, a kid without a father figure is they'll astray real quick whether it's a boy or girl. It's okay to have different roles in the world. That's kind of what we are biologically. And so, to me, a man is somebody who we are biologically. And so, to me, a man is somebody who does what he says he's going to do, somebody who shows up, somebody who, I don't know, I just feel like it's, to me, it's just about being that pillar in whatever your situation is, because there's a lot of

people that are depending on you. And it's the same for women. Women have just as much responsibility as we do. It's just a little bit different. And has that changed over time? I don't think so. As much as they try to tell us that has, I don't think so. I think that we would be idiots if we didn't learn from it and evolve. Because I do think there's a lot that we can learn because a guy from the 60s is probably not as evolved as a guy from now, but it doesn't change those core pillars that you got to have in order to be a good father, a good businessman, a good friend, co-worker, brother, whatever it is. Adam Suellentrop I think part of it for me is like, and I'm not embarrassed to say this, like I have a intuition I'm supposed to protect

people and my family. And to me, a masculine man to to some extent, is capable of doing that, but is gentle at the same time. And I'm truly not trying to be a cornball when I say like, I sort of admire those traits in men that I see even from a distance. And I'd say this as someone who doesn't know you until today, but like from a distance, you strike me as that guy. Like a dude who's protecting and strong and a big dude and masculine, but at the same time, vulnerable and kind and gentle and a generous person. I hope I'm right about that anyway.

You strike me that way. Try to be. Try to be. Let's pick apart a couple last things here. Today's show is sponsored by strawberry.me. So you know this, I'm a big believer in coaching especially when it's from a reliable source and I think most people should have some interaction with somebody who's helping them get better in their life.

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And there's nothing about me growing up that I should have had any of this confidence. And I'm like, you know, where did this come from? And I thought about it for a minute. This is just good for parents. Or, you know, the one thing I think most parents love their kids. I think it's just innate, especially, you know, we just love our children. But there's a big difference between loving your child and believing in them. And I had a real sense that my mom and my dad, like, believed in me.

And that was communicated to me. And I think that became part of my mental mapping, even as a little boy, that I was a good boy. I was smart. I was special. I was special. I worked hard. And I think I've been able to carry that mind belief that that map all through my life, even through adversity.

When you think of your dad or mom, like is that part of like maybe your ingredient? Like they didn't just love you. They believed in you and that's different. So it's such a great point. Yeah. And I didn't, that just dawned on me too and he said it because my mom, I mean, my parents both were very different in how they raised. My mom was very much about structure, discipline.

It was like achieve, achieve, achieve. My dad was like, my mom was terrified when I was moving to California. She's like, what are you doing? You're gonna tell somebody about it. I mean, that's like, no, no doing? You're gonna tell somebody about it. And my dad's like, no, no, go get them kid. Go get them. He was never an over... I mean, we were raised in the 80s and 90s, man. There was not nearly as much supervision as there was then and was not a supervisor. He was a great example. I watched him. I learned a lot from him. But he was really a guy who really just said, you believe to me, you know, and, and I think you're right.

It's so true because it almost gives you permission to go out and achieve then to go succeed. If they, if you've got that behind you, the belief, you know, yeah. You want me to think about it was the people who give their kids everything. I think part of that can be, it can, it can say to them unsaid, like, I need to help you with everything because I really don't believe in you. I need to intervene every time you get in a fight at school, you know? And I think, I think, and then there's the parents who are just, they're oblivious to the fact,

they just don't ever pour belief into their child. So you leave, your child leaves your home with a good education or, and I don't think this just applies to children. I think it applies to being an entrepreneur and the people that you work with. They know you care about them. Do you believe in me? Yeah. And specifically, what do you believe in? Like you think I'm so great. What's great about me? Can you tell me what it is? Cause I think when you find that thing in somebody like I believe in this and,

and you tell them it and they intuitively kind of know, yeah, that is true about me. You've really hardwired them for having some backbone in their life or in their business or even current day. And anyway, just my reflection on when I think about my family. That's a great point. Even not just as a parent, but as a guy who runs a company like you do. You know, I just directed a movie in London called Preschool. And I learned this, this is my third movie that I've directed. And I learned it on the first one,

the first Buddy Games movie, is that I was terrified because I didn't feel like I was ready. I was always wanted to do it, felt like I could, but didn't think I knew enough. But I knew enough to know that I didn't have to know everything. And that if I surrounded myself

with really talented people, I could lean on them. And I would let them know how much I need them. And the more I let them know how much I needed and appreciated, whether your art department or your the A camera or your wardrobe, costumes, whatever it is, I give them a directive and I let them go be the artists that they are. And everybody felt liberated to go like do a great job. And I think that that's what every we created like this great team and I've done it this this last one, the same thing, everybody feels like they're not just operating in fear of

losing their job and just doing the very minimal they can to keep their job and just be quiet. They're a real part of this thing that we're building. You know, and I think that that, you know, whether it's, whether it's with your kids or with the people that you're working with, if you've make them feel like they have something that you need to help the whole thing rise up. Yeah. It really helps. Yeah. Amen. I hope you hold on to that because you're going to be obviously producing a bunch more stuff. I was just, this is such a bizarre interview for me because you're saying things that like

literally have just come out of my mouth recently. I gave a talk last weekend. I've sort of become like halfway obsessed, fascinated with Steve Jobs the last few years. I don't even know why. Maybe because he's the hammer, you know, you could argue he might be the most influential entrepreneur of the last hundred years, right? He might be. And so I've got to know Wozniak, the guy that he co-founded the company with pretty well, and Cook, who's the current CEO there. I serve on a board with him and ironically,

we're neighbors in La Quinta. I've asked a lot about him and I said, what's something about him that I wouldn't know? And he goes, oh, I'll tell you one thing. He constantly told me how much he needed me. That was Steve Jobs. Think I need you. I need you. I need you. And I just found this recent clip of him rolling out like, uh, the iPhone and saying, we don't even know what this thing is yet.

And he's talking to the whole company. I need you. Most leaders aren't willing to say that because I think it makes them look weak. And so it's a really profound point you just made about, and it enrolls people like, oh, I'm not only allowed here, I belong here. Adamus And that gives them purpose. It really feels like they have purpose and they're contributing and they're needed. I mean, then you got a whole army of people that all have the same sort of unilateral vision for something. That's so good. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. So, you know, guys, men today face immense pressure and they got to be able to perform, provide, they got to keep

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But did you have that environment on that set and then tell everybody about it? Like, I'm really enjoying watching this, you guys, like I it's my type of show. Even the scenery, the backdrop, the way it's shot. I really, I really think it's beautifully done. But go ahead and tell us a little bit about it. And if you had that environment there or no. Yeah, we did. It was, April Blair is the show runner. First of all, Netflix has been a great sort of,

you know, the company to work for to let us go make this show. They've been awesome. April Blair, who's the show runner, also does an amazing job of what we just talked about is making everybody feel needed and wanted and appreciating. And she, you know, she's very talented herself. She hired a great group of writers, cast a bunch of really talented and eager, like-minded

actors who all wanted to be there and really, really were into it for the right reasons. The kids on the show are just, I call them kids, they're young adults, but just a really good group. And I think that it was her, it was, you know, as I guess, like the old guy on the show, it's on me. And Minka's great too. Minka's a really, really nice presence to have on a show because she's not, there's no drama. And so I think that as the older ones on the show, setting that example, allow it, you know, because if you're not, and I've been in situations like this, if the director, if the showrunner, or if, you know, the lead actor is insecure, and ego maniacal, or drama, it just trickles down and everybody sort of, it gives everybody permission to behave that way.

Yeah, lowering the frequency of the whole operation. Right. And I think that we had a really, really good, one of the better situations I've been in, you know, because the people really were, it was a really good group of people. And the show, and I think the show shows because you can, you can feel that. You do. By the way, I think the guy who plays your dad is excellent. And by the way, everybody, it's 2.6 billion streams already.

Just to correct, it's minutes. It's not, I wish it were streams. It's minutes. So they go by minutes watched. But even that was impressive because I think the second closest one was 500 million. So we're like 2 billion minutes. I don't know what all that means. I mean, I think it means a lot. I'm pretty sure.

It does. But I think what they really look at is completion rate. They want people to watch it, lead it. Their algorithms, that's really what they look at. Yep. For episode, you mean finish the episodes? Yeah, they want people to finish the entire series. Yep, yep. Well, I'll help you with that.

I'll help you with that, because I'm finishing it. I'll probably finish it tonight. I appreciate it. You guys, it's really, really good. I want you, the next time you have a big project, come out, come back on, we'll do this together in LA, and like, we'll do this in person.. And like, we'll do this in person.

I really like you. I really enjoy your time. Appreciate that. I feel the same, Ed. Yeah, I really do. Okay. I got to ask you about somebody. I'm a huge Godfather fan.

I am not going to interview you and not ask you about James Kahn. I have to, you got to give me a story, even if he's a bad dude, I got to, is he, tell me a Jimmy Kahn story, something about this dude that an anecdote or what he was like, at least like what type of a dude was James Khan? Rest in peace, Jimmy Khan. He was such a character, man. I loved him. He was. He was tough on me in the beginning.

Really? He was. But but in a beginning. Really? He was. But in a constructive way. I always knew that I was not delivering. We'd be in a scene, he'd be like, come here, kid, come over here. And I'd be like, oh, God, here we go. And he'd give me advice on if I'm pushing too hard or if I'm just whatever. He'd give me acting advice, which I, pushing too hard or if I'm, you know, just whatever, he would give me

acting advice, which I, to this day, appreciate. He's one of those guys that operates, he would tell me, he's like, do as I say, not as I do, because he was, that guy lived a life and made a lot of mistakes. But he was such a genuinely caring and present, very present. He's always creating some kind of, you know, chaos of some sort. Like, there's fucking writers, or this guy's a, I gave that guy his operative. It's always something. Yep. So he was like that kind of guy who needed, who like operated best with in sort of a chaos.

Yeah. I know a guy leading the country that reminds me of that sometimes. So that was Jimmy, you know, and I'd go to him like on our first date or I had like a, I remember asking him one time about if he'd ever worked with Brando and he looks at me and like, are you fucking stupid? You did not have to. Did you see a movie called The Godfather? I was like, oh yeah, that's right.

Are you freaking serious? You asked James Cotter. At the time I didn't make the connection. Oh my God. That's awesome, man. I got to tell you, I enjoyed today a great deal. Like this is the end of my day and it like made my day. I really enjoyed the time today.

If there's anything I can ever do for you or help you with anything, I'm right here. I just want you to know that. I appreciate that Ed. Likewise, if I can ever help you with anything, I don't want to eat it but... I probably will. By the way, everybody, go follow up with him at Gatlin. You dudes, go get your labs done.

Will you please do that? Will you please be healthy? Will you please look into it? It may not be TRT. Like he said, maybe it's a GLP-1. Maybe it's just nutrients, supplements that you need. Who the heck knows? Maybe they'll find something you really need to know about.

So please go do that and go check out Ransom. Ransom Canyon's really good, you guys, on Netflix. And he's humble. He carries it. Like, he's that dude. We're watching the night. I'll tell you one last compliment. I'm sick of complimenting you. No, I'm not. Go on. Go on. No, here's what you have. Some people jump off the camera a little bit more than others.

They just, you find yourself wanting to watch more of them. I think like Tom Cruise has that to me. I don't know if he's the best actor ever, but like there's something about him. His frequency so high, he jumps off the camera. I think Damon has it. Denzel has it. Like there's certain tons of actresses.

If I started naming actresses, I'd feel really, really bad. But like so many different people have it, but it's rare. And Josh has that. It's like I said to my wife, he says, because he's so handsome. Is that what it is? He goes, no, it's like, I think the word for it is charisma. Some people have charisma. You can't quite describe what it is, but you know it when you see it. And he has it. And so you could tell that today.

So that's so sweet. Thank you so much. Yeah, very, very kind. It is true. Enjoyed today, very much brother. Me too. Thank you so much. Me too. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, everybody share the episode, please. Anybody you care about, this is one of these conversations you don't get a chance to hear very often from someone who's topping their craft, topping their field and their insights and their thoughts and you find out they're a good person on top of it. It's like, it's really like a cherry on top so all right everybody God bless you! Max out! This is the Ed Myron Show.