THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Julianne Hough and Brooks Laich - The Power Couple
Episode Date: July 18, 2018Check out my most recent interview with Julianne Hough & Brooks Laich! In addition to being neighbors to my Coeur d'Alene estate, this Power Couple makes for a great interview! Julianne Hough is a ...triple threat entertainment powerhouse! She is a dancer, singer, and actress. She is a two-time professional champion of ABC's series Dancing with the Stars. Julianne was also nominated for a Creative Arts Primetime Emmy in 2007 for Outstanding Choreography in season five of the show! With all this success she still manages to give back with her first song, "Will You Dance With Me", which was released to iTunes to raise money for the American Red Cross. The song placed at No. 100 on the Billboard Pop 100 chart! Talk about maxing out! Joining her today is her husband, former NHL Forward Brooks Laich! Brooks Laich is a former NHL Professional Forward and was widely known for his term with the Washington Capitals, his traits as a leader and is also known as one of the hardest working players on the Capitals' roster. He has represented Canada internationally, capturing a silver medal at the 2003 World Junior Championships, and playing for Canada again at the 2010 World Hockey Championships. In 2013, The couple announced their engagement on August 18, 2015. They've been happily married since July 8, 2017. Since then Brooks and Julianne continue to grow into a stronger married couple as they work countless hours on their relationship.
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Welcome to the Ed Milach.
The place for leaders, dreams and champions.
Welcome back to Max Out with Ed Milach.
It is great to have you with us today.
And today is a power couple edition of the program.
And I cannot think of a more powerful couple to have on the program today.
So I'm sure you recognize both these people,
but to my right is Brooks Lake from the NHL
and from the life-change space
and all kinds of different spaces.
We're gonna talk about here going forward
and this is Julian Huff to my left.
So thank you both for being here today.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
I appreciate you, brother.
If this is like 5% as good as the off-camera stuff,
this is gonna rock.
Yeah, we've been hanging for a while. It's awesome. We've done like 11 interviews already to say you know and we're actually neighbors.
It's just we traveled 1400 miles from our actual homes where we're neighbors to meet each other because
we live on a lake up in Idaho together right across the bay. I could if I were in better shape I could swim over to your house
But I've actually thought about that. I watched the deer. I was fishing off my dock one day and watched the deer trying
cross the lake from our house to your house.
Yes.
He got halfway across.
I told the jewels about this.
He got halfway across, turned around, he came back.
And I was sitting there thinking I was fishing.
I was like, what if I could make that?
You could do it.
We have a buddy up there, who's your name, Steve Moku, did it.
And he's not in great shape.
So I know you could do it.
Steve, no offense.
And I also saw a moose do it four years ago.
I watched the damn moose, so I'm,
if a moose did it, it broke to be like, I got this.
It's man against moose, it'll be a good race.
So thank you for being here today.
Thanks for having us.
And I think you all know this,
but they're career-sort of speaking themselves,
but how many years you playing the NHL 14?
13, 14, we had a year and a half of lockouts,
so however you wanna count it.
Yeah, 2003 to 2018, yeah.
That's an unbelievable long career as a professional athlete,
great player, but the thing I'm more fascinated with,
even than just your career, is all the way that you're able
to articulate the tools you've, you know,
sort of resource for yourself to win,
and you're able to communicate those things so well.
So I wanna talk about that today. And then Jules, you know, you of resource for yourself to win. And you're able to communicate those things so well. So I want to talk about that today.
And then Jules, you know, you've watched her career.
She's obviously been successful as an actress,
dancing with the stars, won that a couple times.
But a judge on there.
But she's really a tremendously gifted dancer and actress
and musician, I guess we call you.
I don't know what to say.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I've been people in the arts, you know.
I like, I just love I don't want to do that. Yeah, absolutely. People in the arts, you know?
I just love to have an outlet to express myself and I find that through dance, through
music, through entertainment, acting, that's my way of expression.
You're amazing.
And then combined, they're what I would call a power couple.
And so I want to talk today about so many different things, but I want to set the stage
because most people
watching this know both of you already.
But I don't know how do the two of you actually meet?
Do you want the short story or the long story?
Do you want broke story or a wide story?
Give me the short story, she'll tell you the real story.
Do you have the real story?
Yeah, let's start.
She'll give you the details.
A buddy of mine ended up doing a movie with her,
thought we were compatible.
He'd watch the games on the iPad,
and he'd be like, hey, you should meet this guy.
And anyway, that's the long story short.
Oh, that is boring.
I feel it, it is.
She'll give you the magic behind it.
Okay, I'm all about what you put out in the world,
comes back to.
Lesson one, right here.
So, for me, I had recently been single. People have been
trying to set me up on dates for a long time, never worked. And I remember being on a plane
and I saw outside our magazine. And I was like, this is the kind I want somebody who is
outdoors, athletic, healthy, loves family, maybe from like the Pacific Northwest or something.
You know, and it's going to dress like this all like I said.
So that was like my first little installment of what you put out in the world.
Okay.
Like your language is so important.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And your beliefs and what you put out into the world will come back.
So negative thoughts too.
Yeah. So that was my first experience.
I did this movie with Teddy Sears
and Teddy asked, are you dating anybody?
I said no, but this is what I'm looking for.
And I told him.
You said that, you said that.
This is my intention.
This is what I'm looking for.
It had nothing to do with what they did,
how successful they were.
I just was like, I just want somebody
who's healthy, loves family,
outdoors, all those things. And he goes, I have the perfect guy for you. And so he showed me a picture.
I was like, always very handsome. This is great. And then he tried to set us up, but Brooks never reached out. And so, hang on, let me keep going.
Okay.
Brooks never reached out.
And so, I was like, so did he say anything?
And he's like, no, I don't know, he hasn't, I don't know.
And so finally, I said, well, why don't you just put us
on a text together?
Group text.
So that way, he has my number.
And so.
So you kind of pursued it a little bit.
I kind of did, yeah.
Dude, you have one of the hottest women in the world pursuing you.
You don't forget to throw her a text.
It's just we were 3,000 miles away.
I was playing hockey in DC.
So Teddy was from DC.
And I met him after a hockey game there.
He was just a guy that I ended up meeting.
I was like, dude, I like you as a dude.
Can I get your number?
And we'll stay buddies.
We come to, he was living out to LA because he was pursuing acting and
We come to LA to play in a couple weeks like let's go for bite to eat when I come
So I have somebody to eat supper with other than just teammates all the time and this is the best part of the story and
Yeah, and after that our relationship grew he'd come I'd leave let him use my house at Christmas
He'd he'd come to DC all the time because his family was there
But he was living out here and his family didn't always have room
for him and his now wife, Melissa.
Anyway, long story short, we became good buddies.
He does this movie with him.
I, he used to try and get me to come to LA
after every season.
He's like come to LA, send me pictures of dolphins
from his kitchen.
Pretty nice.
And I'm like, dude, I gotta go home,
I got nieces and nephews, I gotta go home,
see my friends and people.
And I was like, what are you gonna do to set me up
with some starlet out there, like the juicy fruit girl?
Because that was the only Hollywood person I knew
was this, she was a juicy fruit girl.
She did a commercial, which is sassy.
You should watch this, if you haven't seen one.
I was 19 years old.
Watch this commercial.
I remember that commercial.
And then he said, dude, you're never gonna believe it.
I got a movie with the juicy fruit girl.
Come on, brother. Come on.
Yeah. Yeah. So what's he's talking about, manifesting your
things? Why is this not part of your initial story, by the way?
This is like the story story.
Well, that's what I'm saying. What you put out there.
So when he saw this juicy fruit commercial, when he was in,
you know, DC, he was like, man, where do I meet a girl like that?
Come on. It's so sassy.
Have you seen the commercial?
Yeah, I have.
And then sure enough, he married the juicy fruit girl.
It's a sexy one.
You got that juicy fruit.
And I got, yeah.
So wait a minute, you're on the text.
What happens after the text?
I call it under the next day.
And you know what?
Too many guys stress out about like, oh, what am I going to say?
I got home.
I was driving.
I got home.
I was like, I don't have anything planned to pick the phone. I dialed it just so that I could be authentic. I could not have. I was like, hey, what am I gonna say? I got home, I was driving, I got home, I was like, I don't have anything planned, I picked the phone and I dialed it.
Just so that I could be authentic and not have,
I was like, hey, what's up?
I think you were driving.
I was driving, I was like, hey, I was like,
hey, what's going on?
What are you doing?
And that's how we started talking.
We talked for like two hours or something.
I didn't have a plan, I think too many guys
try and plan that.
I tried to be cool and swap.
I didn't know what I was doing.
I called her, we vived it, we talked about Cortalain.
I was like, wow, this big city, what I see
as a big city girl, is loves lakes, loves outdoor life,
loves hiking, swimming, like lake, like, I'm like,
wow, and that really at the start of our relationship
perked my interest, enough for me to call again
and call again.
We started FaceTiming, and six, seven weeks later,
she came out to DC to visit.
The first time we actually met was at the airport.
Wow, yeah.
I picked her up the airport, she came to visit.
And then how long from there to the wedding day
in Cordelaine?
Almost was three and a half.
Three and a half, yeah.
A year and a half till we got engaged,
we got engaged at our house in Cordelaine
right on the balcony.
And then we got married two years later in Cordelaine.
That's so awesome.
And Teddy was a groom's man for me.
That's so cool. And you got the juicy's man for me. That's so cool.
And you got the juicy fruit girl, bro.
And you got the, I'll thought whatever he is.
That's so cool.
It's so funny, though.
It's just a weird, so.
That's how you came together.
Now, what's interesting to me, because one of the things
I enjoy about our conversations is all
of the lessons both of you learn.
There are a lot of people who do things really well in life,
but they're not conscious of it,
but they don't articulate it very well.
And I think our childhoods shape us to some extent, right?
Like, we're either overcoming it, or it shapes us,
or whatever, or so.
Oh, 100%.
Well, you think.
And so, I want everyone just to know you a little better,
because we're going to get in like all this stuff,
but like, I know this stuff,
but I want them to know some of this stuff.
So, I grew up in a family that was loving and amazing,
but there was some dysfunction in it.
There was some anxiety in my upbringing.
It's a well-known story.
My dad's been sober for years now,
but my dad did have an alcohol problem when I was a kid,
and I have this theory because you have them.
Just so you know, I think that children who come from
homes of some anxiety or stress,
their eyes are different.
I just have this theory.
I can see them, most people's eyes, and I can also see that people's eyes have just come
from really good families.
It's just interesting, not good or bad, but me and you have the eyes.
And my little boys at the group home that I talk about have those eyes.
And it's amazing to me when I do these interviews and I can sit across often times I go, oh, here she has those eyes and so
You're up ring will talk about in a minute, but I want to say that's amazing that you can pick up on that because without really knowing our
Backgrounds that is the truth. I mean Brooks came from a very well he'll explain it but and and by the way my family is amazing
And I wouldn't trade them for the world and
My parents are very loving
Very supportive
But but they had their own issues you know and I think that as a kid you you don't realize that at the time
Until you get older and you're like everybody's human everybody's human and every most the I love this, because you've become so successful.
But the story really is interesting.
And it's not everybody's story, but in some sense it is, in the extent that there was
some anxiety in your childhood, right?
There was stuff that happened that shapes you.
And I think a lot of times when I meet really big achievers, I always wonder, I wonder
if they got a lot of their significance as a child by achieving.
You know, like did they link their winning to achieving
like the one time my parents weren't arguing
or maybe my dad stopped and said,
I'm proud of you as when I hit a home run.
Yeah.
Or I brought home an A.
Yeah.
Or I did great in a dance contest.
And so your parents, when you were young,
you started dancing really young,
but your parents divorced when you were pretty young too, right?
Yeah, so I grew up in Utah.
I'm the baby of five, three older sisters, my brother and I.
And it's funny that you say that because I've
realized that I'm such a competitor.
I mean, that's why we connect as well,
because we're competitors.
We love to compete.
And there was an ongoing competitive, just thought process of getting attention from our
dad, from our mom, whatever it was, and to be the best, to be the best sibling, to be
the best, to be the most this, the most that, the best this, the best that, and it always had good
intention.
It was never to hurt anybody, but it was always about being the best.
And so even to this day, my struggle is if I'm not winning, I feel like I'm losing.
And so that is a constant reminder to me that progress is the actual fulfillment.
Wow, that's wonderful.
And so, you know, like, yeah, that was a big thing that I had to actually discover recently.
But those things are what drove me, and that basically gave me the ability to compete,
to have ambition, to have drive.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't, again, trade them for the world.
They happen for you, not to you.
100%.
But is it interesting?
Some of the things that make us the most successful,
if we're not careful, they're also the things
that can cause us some of our greatest pains sometimes.
And so you don't want to ever lose your desire
for significance, your desire to win and compete.
But attaching our worth or our happiness to it
can sometimes be an issue, right?
So did you guys, you and Derek both, I think, when you were little,
actually moved away to like London when you were young, like really young, right?
We did. So when I was 10 and my brother was almost 13, that was when our parents were getting divorced.
And you know, our older sisters were either getting married or moved to Nashville.
They were that much older. They were they were a little bit older. And so you know it was an
opportunity for us at the time to go to London for a couple months and train in ballroom dancing
since we had like this competitive fire in us that apparently these coaches from London saw in us at our studio in Utah. And it would give my parents three months to kind of like sort
out their their divorce and then we would come home. Well three months turned
into five years for me. Oh my god. And eight years for my brother. And so. Oh my go bigger. So the first, so the first little bit, you know, I was 10 years old. I was the
most independent, just firecracker you've ever met. Sassy is all hell. Like I was seven years
old, you know, moving my hips, my parents were like, what is this, you know, cement
dancer. So, but they embraced it and had me go to this place
to explore that rather than tell me no.
So I was very grateful for my parents
to give me that opportunity.
Unfortunately, my mom woke up every day crying
and going to sleep crying because she was like,
I'm struggling, my kids are over there,
I want them with me, but this is an incredible opportunity
for them.
And, you know, there were struggles,
for sure, being in London that definitely taught me a lot of lessons that at the time were
probably very hard for somebody at, you know, 10 years old to go through.
It's insane.
It's really, yes.
But, you know, like, I went from having this, like, incredibly loving, supportive,
just nurturing mother to Shirley Ballas,
who is just this feisty and very, very tough woman.
You say ballas?
Yes.
Is she related to the dancer ballas?
Yeah, so Quirky and Shirley Ballas,
and their son Mark, we lived with their family.
Got it, okay.
And so when we were there, you know, I
was able to go from, you know, one, one method of teaching a child, which was my mom, and
like this nurturer and this lover and cheerleader of like, your poop does not sting. Like you're
amazing. Like, you know, everything is great to then like my coach my
dance coach which was like push push push push push and at
the time you know I'm a teenager you know 10 years old
going through my teens. Going through all sorts of emotions
and transformation and you know it's not my home it's not
my family's not my environment but it taught me you know
just work ethic passion drive, drive, and...
Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?
Of course it did.
But then it also, you know,
there was something that happened between my family
and this family that we lived with
that I had this sense of proving myself.
I had to be the best.
I had to prove myself and I had to,
I had to win. So I I had to prove myself and I had to win.
So I would go through things that were maybe not a good thing.
That's such a...
Well, you know, I mean, things that maybe weren't necessarily
the best for a 13-year-old at the time.
But to me, it didn't matter because I knew where my end goal was
and I kept going.
Obviously now, I see some things that should have shifted But to me, it didn't matter because I knew where my end goal was and I kept going.
Obviously now, I see some things that should have shifted and shouldn't have happened,
but I now see the benefits of them.
So that had to, I mean, you're 13-year-old, I'm picturing the 13-year-old, 11-year-old,
little girl over there without her mom, without her dad.
I'm assuming in the studio almost every day dancing, right?
Oh yeah, studio, school, training, competitions on the weekends.
Tell them about the school visit we just did.
Oh my gosh.
So, obviously, like, I trained in like my performance, not in my education with like English and spelling
and math, definitely not math and
When I was at my school I wanted or in London I wanted to introduce Brooks to our you know teachers in the school Where I grew up isn't the school where she went when she was at this age because we were competing on the weekends and then
You know training at night and stuff I would come in every day and apparently all the teachers said I was like always sleeping
and stuff, I would come in every day and apparently, all the teachers said I was always sleeping.
You used to sleep in our class,
he used to sleep over there every freaking teacher.
Every teacher.
I was like, I promise I didn't just sleep in the school,
but the amazing thing was, my school was like,
this girl is really talented, she's working hard,
she's got this other life that she's doing. And we see where
she's going, we'll help her out. Amazing. You know, there's this interesting emotion
when I'm listening to you, I just can tell you just us talking, even though there's a
camera here. Yeah. There's this part of me that knows that that's what shaped you into
being one of the greats in the world at what you do. And so that's wonderful. There's
this also the part of me that's wants to hug this little girl. It's like, you know what I mean?
Isn't it true?
Yeah, you really feel that.
Well, that's actually what I did.
What do you mean?
I hugged that little girl.
When I was 24, I went through this whole transformation,
and by the way, I still hug that little girl to this day,
because even though I've worked through a lot of things,
she's still there, and she needs to be loved.
And so every once in a while, I'll just like think of a little girl
and I'll hug her and I'll give her the love that maybe she didn't feel at the time
and the worth that she didn't feel.
And I give that to her because I am her.
You may have just given my audience, I'm serious, maybe like one of the greatest gifts that anyone's ever given them, because you can all go back and do that.
You and I have been through some similar experiences together and I did that same thing with
the little boy that was me.
I've only cried like two or three times in my life.
Oh my gosh, it's the best thing ever if you want.
I can help you.
No, no, no.
I never cried in my life until I met my wife.
She told me some of those stories.
Yeah, I would.
And now I might not even know what the story is.
If she starts crying, I start clivering and looking at the
little things.
But I've been through the same exercises you.
And you can go back.
And you can give you, you can go back and give yourself any
of the advice you would have given yourself when you were
that age.
And so that's, that's be real.
That's an amazing story, right?
And I think it's by no coincidence, by the way, that God delivered to you Brooks, because I think in your childhood
I would call that a very competitive achievement-oriented, but I'd also call it my word for it. I wasn't in it, but in listening to it, not stable.
Not stable. 100 percent. Before even said that I just was thinking it wasn't stable. I didn't have a rock.
I didn't have a foundation. I didn't have a foundation
I was always floating. Yeah, and
that's actually one of our first dates before he asked me to be his girlfriend
He said think of me as this
solid pole in the center of your life and you can be your little butterfly and fly all over and you'll always be there to land
Oh, yeah, I see that and that's why you ended up being in there.
That's so obvious.
God's amazing man.
Now you, so she's, that's where she was at 13, right?
That ain't where you were at 13, right?
No, no, I had a very different upbringing,
but, you know, we arrive at the same point in life,
so one way isn't better than the other.
Mine was very different than hers though.
But her parents right now and step parents
are awesome.
Fabulous people, big part of our lives.
Amazing.
Incredible.
Same with my family.
It's just because your family goes through
these transitional periods that aren't wonderful for you.
It doesn't mean you come from a bad family.
I come from an amazing family.
And it's even just like you.
I know the emotion of talking about it
because I know how amazing my dad is
and I know that he's my best friend. And I know he's been the central positive part of my life too.
But it's also this true, it's part of my story that he did drink when I was young, right?
So like both of those, it's awkward sometimes but it's wonderful you're willing to talk
about it and I do too because there's so many people watching this that either come from
some kind of dysfunction or are young people watching this who are in it right now.
I have so many young viewers that they're listening to my mom and dad are getting a divorce
right now. I feel scared or my parents are fighting or my dad, my mom drinks too much.
There's something in my family I'm ashamed of or I'm embarrassed of and you're proof that
you can turn your life into something magnificent.
So thank you for being able to talk about it.
Thank you for letting us talk about it,
because I think, and I know you're
going to continue with your story,
but about talking about it, I think
that when you don't talk about something,
it manifests into something that is so much greater,
and so much harder, and so much more hurtful, and painful.
So by me talking about this, this isn't something
that I haven't talked about with my father.
I haven't talked about with my mother.
I haven't talked about with every single one
of my siblings.
I haven't talked about with a family
that I lived within London.
And because we were able to talk about it
and not be defensive, but just be factual
of the events of what happened
and take the emotion out of it, that's done.
Now that happened, now we can actually just be together.
Great relationship with all those people.
Well, see, you guys, one of the things that's going to happen today,
it's going to be honest with you.
It's so good for me to hear just to be candid with you
because there are some people maybe I haven't talked about all of it with.
And I think there's like this power to just be an authentic with yourself
and with everybody else that's just like freeing and
One thing is gonna happen today through the interview is that I want you following them on social media
It's interesting. Usually have celebrities on your program like hey, follow them
They're gonna put some cool pictures up or some stuff that'll inspire you and you're gonna see that with both of them
But I actually think these two people are a real power couple in the sense that they can also help you in your life
And I think if you follow their journey together over time, you're going to see them both engage in
different things and opportunities for you to help shift you and change your life
too and follow them on their journey because they've got nuggets of just
strategy and truths that they've both uncovered. And a lot of it's recent for
them that I think can help with you too. So, well, in your stories, we'll inspire
and help us. Like. We help each other.
You heard her.
You heard her.
So you come from the family you were telling me where they were just encouraging.
You can do anything.
You're great.
You're amazing.
Well, my mom was like that.
I mean, that's what I said.
God bless mom.
I mean, I was pressure hockey player.
My mom to this day still never ever thought I played a bad game.
Love you, mom.
Love you so much.
Every game I ever played most terrible. you, mom. Love you so much.
Every game I ever played the most terrible,
she loved it, you're so good.
I love you, mom.
My dad was sometimes, my dad wanted me to be better,
and I wanted to be better.
So if I scored three goals, he's like, yeah,
you should have had four, you should have had
this one, other one, you should have.
And I'm like, you know, that's criticism,
but you're right, I should have.
And he, so there would be games,
I mean, there was a game one time,
I got in the vehicle after my dad, he says, get in the car.
We got in the car, we drove 70 miles back home after the game,
not a word was said.
Get out of the car, I walk in, walk right by my mom,
she's like, how was the game?
Didn't say a word, dad walks right by her,
how was the game?
Didn't say a word.
Enough was said, you know, and that.
So dad, but I was so appreciative,
because dad knew I wanted to be better.
He never pushed me, he's like, you have to do this.
He was just, he was hard.
You were accountable.
You were independent.
You were kind of like, I could tell you some stories about even when I turned pro, like
the stuff that my dad left to me to decide.
Give me one example.
When I was like, I love my dad.
Hockey and fishing have been the two things that have really brought us close.
We share those.
Those are so dear to us.
When I was 19, I was the next day,
I was drafted by the Ottawa Senators
when I was 17.
You have a two-year grace period
to sign your first professional contract.
And the night before the deadline,
the deadline is at 3 p.m. the next day,
the night before my dad's on a fishing trip
up north and Saskatchewan.
And I talked when there's no cell phones back then.
This is like 2001.
And I'm like, dad, he calls me from a landline, whatever.
And I'm like, dad, they're not even close to the number that my agent says we can get.
We wanted, let's tell you numbers, whatever, you can look it up.
It's 800,000.
They were at 650,000.
My agent's saying we can get 800,000.
U.S. dollars.
I mean, I'm a 19 year old kid.
I'm making a hundred bucks every two weeks.
That was my paycheck.
A hundred bucks every two weeks of junior hockey.
Anyway, dad, I don't know what to do.
What if they don't come to our number?
Can you be around tomorrow?
And he goes, I'm like, deadlines at three
can I talk to you tomorrow?
He goes, no, I'm going fishing.
And I'm like, ha!
We all are like, well, and he's like, I'm going fishing. You make your decision.
You'd be happy with it.
I'll call you tomorrow night.
You'll let me know how it went.
That's a while.
But that was dad.
He was there when you needed it.
He was there, but he also built me, as I've told you,
as much as my parents showed me love,
I'm so thankful they taught me independence.
And that was one of the biggest moments.
He's like, this is your thing.
You've earned it. We earned it. I'm only there because the biggest moments. He's like, this is your thing, you've earned it,
we earned it.
I'm only there because of my parents,
it's to be honest, but he's like,
you earned it, you got drafted,
you make your decision on the path of your life,
and I'll find out from you tomorrow night what happened.
And they ended up coming to 775.
Yeah, I was like, I'll take it, I'll take that one.
But even for him, he probably didn't give it down.
Like my dad, my dad was a principal, did well,
but I mean, the money to him, we probably couldn't even fathom.
So he's like, either you just make your choice.
But.
So your dad said a high standard for you though,
and it lets you be your own independence and accountability.
And look great parenting advice, by the way,
your dad handled that.
That's good advice for me too, because sometimes I think I probably tend tend to go all right. I'll be right there. I'll handle this
You know and don't know and to let you grow and build that muscle for max
I do yeah, that's awesome
Now he was hands on but hands off
You know he helped me and was there drove me to games taught me even to this day
We would talk about hockey games after the game. I'd call him
He's such a reference in a source of knowledge. He's the fairest man I know. I look up to my dad so much. You've talked about how your dad has
more integrity than you. I feel like that about my dad the same. I look up to my dad as a huge role
model and so much of what I do and whatever and is or try to be is stuff that I've seen.
Do you think when you played, I'm interested, Brooks? Do you think when you played like if you did
have a good game? I'm curious how the mind works.
Like, you'd have a two-goal game.
Yeah.
You had a great game.
But the first guy, you think of it as your dad.
Like, would you want to tell your dad about a game?
Like, was your dad, was that not the dynamic?
No, it was not so much.
No, it wasn't.
No, it was just, and because, honestly, because it was,
it was sort of expectation.
It was, like, you were there. We had supper in DC, I scored a goal in a assist,
and we had supper after the game with my mom and dad.
And Jules goes, this is early in our relationship,
she says, are we going to celebrate tonight?
I'm like, I'm like, celebrate what?
I mean, they pay me to do this.
I'm like, yeah, but you scored a goal! Come on!
I'm like, that's why I get paid, because they but you scored a goal. Come on. Yeah.
And I'm like, that's why I get paid,
because they expect me to do this.
And dad's like, I like that, because so many teachers
expect they should get rewarded for doing this or that.
That's what we pay you to do.
And that, so it's a great mindset.
It's also, we've worked on trying to celebrate
life's little accomplishments.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like that is, she brought that to me.
And I'm like, wow, I was going to assist in the NHL
first star of the night.
That's in front of my parents and my wife.
That's a pretty cool night.
Maybe we should celebrate in a little bit.
But to me, it was just business as usual.
So, but that's where mom come in.
And mom was like excited.
Yeah, and she and my wife.
But that's like that transitions into a topic
I want to talk to you all about
because I've watched this with you a little bit too, Jules.
So, so I talk about this thing called blissful dissatisfaction and I think you used to suffer
from the reverse.
And so tell me if you did.
And so what that means is I used to think for years too, like I'll be happy when, like
once I get that house or once I sign that contract or once I get that, I win the dancing with
the stars or once I make a certain amount of money or once I sign that contract or once I get that I win the dancing with the stars or once I make a certain amount of money or once I meet that
person so it's like delaying your happiness until an event and what usually
happens for most people is that event never arises when you get to that event
then it's the next one and I used to think man if I let myself be happy I'm
gonna lose my drive so like somehow I find it bad.
I have a whole story about this.
So I really believe that most people think this.
They think, man, if I enjoy this, if I'm happy,
all of my, because here's what happens,
it is a formula that can work short-term.
So you start going, well, this is part of my recipe.
I like denying myself happiness, and that's what creates this drive, but there's no connection
to it.
You can live in bliss and still be dissatisfied.
In other words, dissatisfaction is completely different from happiness.
You can be completely happy and still dissatisfied.
Disatisfaction is, I'd like more.
I want to compete for better, but that doesn't need to rob you of your happiness.
So I always teach people, you can live blissfully. It's still be disassified.
It's like, it's like eating a piece of steak,
that's just delicious.
You heard me talk about this with Lewis.
And I'm just so blissful.
I'm not, I'm not less hungry for the next bite.
And so you can live in bliss.
And so talk about that part of your story for a second.
I want them to hear this from you
because it has more credibility coming from you
than from me.
No, it has credibility coming from anybody who's been in this situation.
I think, you know, again, my drive came from proving myself.
My drive came from being the best, but I didn't even know what I wanted.
I just needed it to be the best.
So, you know, I wanted to be the most successful movie star and I wanted to be the most successful
artist and fortunately, on Dance of the Stars, I won my first two seasons, so I got it,
you know, and I proved myself, you know, that whole thing.
And what ended up happening was because I had been basically building my success off
of proving myself to these people and and everybody else
one of these people are whoever these people are
I you know I I got a lot of things but it was what's next what's next what's next when you would win would you enjoy it
I mean I would celebrate I would celebrate but I would be like okay what's next the next day like
like one day yeah absolutely it's that whole mentality of like when you finish something and then you go into the depression
Like right after you've just finished this massive project and then it's like what do I do now?
You know, so
So it's like one day and then I'm on to the next thing and fortunately when I first moved out to Hollywood at 18
Like things were aligned and things were happening and I I believe that was because I paid my dues.
You know, like I worked hard.
I went through things.
I kept going.
I believed in myself.
And eventually, 24 years old,
I went to Tony Robbins seminar
and thought I was one person.
And then I was like, Holy awareness of all these things that I did not realize.
And when I was starting to realize everything, I realized that I was doing it for everyone
else, and that I needed validation and approval from everyone but myself.
And that I had, and that I had, I didn't even really know what I valued.
And like what I wanted for myself
that actually made me happy, it just had to be the best.
And I compared myself to everyone,
and if I wasn't winning, I was losing.
So then I would move to the next thing
that I knew that I would be good at.
And so it's this whole pattern of like this whole idea
of being the best.
And if I'm not the best, then I'm a loser.
What was the shift?
What did you do?
The shift was because I realized I was doing things
for everyone else and I wasn't doing them for myself
and that nothing is ever going to be enough
if I'm not enough.
And I am freaking enough, you know.
And so, but this, you know, this was six days of day
with us, you know, I'm saying and like going for it
and playing full out and like really just looking at myself
and being like, okay, is this the person that I wanna be
for the rest of my life and be lost,
but kind of successful, but never feeling successful.
Yes.
Or do I want to actually enjoy my life and still be successful, whether it's financially
or artistically, and actually enjoy what I'm doing and celebrate it with people?
The people watching this, I think by and large, are sort of more achiever types.
Absolutely.
That's why they're engaging this and they
are relating to this so deeply right now I want you to know
that we're all relate to this what you're describing right
now. But I will tell you when all of this happened I left
at the destiny I was like yes I have all this like so
forth. I was satisfied. And I lost all of my drive. I did.
And it for like a few months, like almost a year, I was like, holy shit, like what am I going to do?
Like I was at first, I was like, they just moved to DC.
After she finished this, we met the day after and then she found love in her
life. And she she struggled. She told me she's like, I'm struggling with drive, I'm happy.
I'm struggling with drive.
And I'm like, I told her,
because that's because you're placing your drive
based off somebody.
So what if you conquer that person, where's your drive then?
You got it.
And so what happens is when we make these changes,
it's important for everybody,
because I want everyone to live blissfully dissatisfied.
But there's something you have to care for in that process.
You and I are talking about it off camera.
You still have to protect your own identity
during that time.
The first thing you said to me.
So you actually saw that in her.
I saw that, yeah.
Well, she had told me, like I still fight with her now,
because I'm like, I don't believe this woman
that you work as I never know her.
I know her how she is now.
And I'm like, I don't believe that that was you,
but I understand it is.
But that was one of the, our first date,
our very first date.
I told her, it was like,
because we were both in interesting pockets
in our life of creating the life we want,
of being single and free,
and building pillars and foundations of our life.
And I said, find the three, four, whatever little thing,
the things that matter to you the most,
and protect those.
Put that space out and protect those.
And they're yours because I had been through this
before I had met her.
I had about 18 months before I met my now wife
and before I met Jules.
I called my mom one day and I said,
mom, give it to me straight.
Am I a different person now than I was two years ago?
And she goes, what do you mean?
I'm like, just tell me honestly am I different now
because I was struggling as a person. And I was like, tell me if I'm different now than two years ago and she goes, what do you mean? I'm like, just tell me honestly, am I different now because I was struggling as a person.
And I was like, tell me if I'm different now
than two years ago.
And she goes, well, you don't really call as much.
And I'm like, dammit, I knew it.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I had gone out of, I had gotten away from my foundation
identity as a person.
That day, I made some massive shifts in my life.
That was a big pivot in my life, made massive shifts.
And I went quiet, I went silent.
I just started building things in my life that I enjoyed.
And I started appreciating people,
for who they were, how they existed, how they,
but I was really quiet, and I was working on me
and appreciating other people, working on me,
appreciating other people.
And filling in, this is important to me.
That's a pillar of my life.
That's locked in.
Ooh, I found this is important to me.
That's a pillar that's locked in.
And then when I met her, and when you meet somebody,
they should support those things.
But you also have to protect those things.
You know, because you're gonna meet somebody,
they're gonna encroach in, you know,
they're gonna influence you a little bit.
She's the biggest influence in my life.
But if she's ever taking away from things,
not intentionally, she would never do it.
But I could.
Yeah, like I need to,
And sometimes I do.
I need to protect, like when I was playing,
if she wanted to go out and watch this concert,
and I'm like, I gotta play tomorrow, I need rest,
like I might need to protect that.
And I'm gonna sacrifice at times for us,
but like protect the things that matter to you. If I can give advice to you, I'll tell the solitude to protect that. And I'm going to sacrifice at times for us, but like, protect the things that matter to you.
If I can give advice to you, I'll tell you this all to you.
Protect the things that matter to you.
Find a partner, explain why those matter to you,
and your partner, the one that's right for you,
will promote and support the heck out of that.
And she does that for me, and I've tried to do that for her.
What an incredible counsel.
And I agree with you, though, always happy, never satisfied.
That's what I said.
So even when I scored a goal in the cyst
Like we talked about I was happy, but I'm not satisfied because I want to do it again. I want to score two goals
That's right
But some people rob themselves from the happy the celebration piece and if you don't celebrate every time you don't celebrate
There's a part of your brain when it doesn't get in a hit. Yeah, if it doesn't get that hit that you want
The event that in the endorphins and dopamine hitting
The less and less you're inclined to want to do it
the next time subconsciously.
So you must celebrate it.
By the way, when's the last time you heard a professional
athlete in a famous actress give you this type
of conversation, right?
This is why I'm telling you, and I'm telling both
you off camera, it's why you need to be engaged,
even more than you have been in people's lives,
because you can transform.
This is gold right here, right?
Well, the next part, by the way,
of that whole not feeling like a drive
after all this happened,
I ended up meeting this man
because I was like, what am I gonna do?
I don't even know because all of that was to prove myself.
So is that really even what I wanna do now?
Like to sing and all that stuff. And this man, I think he was maybe 75 years old, ran
up to me by the way. And at first I was like, oh my gosh, tears in his eyes. And he's
like, and I get so emotional every time I tell a story. But he said, your song, my hallelujah song, was the song that helped me come out as gay,
that I'm gay, finally to my family, to everyone.
And I listened to it every single morning for a year and a half on the treadmill and I
lost 60 pounds and I was finally able to be myself, to be who I am meant to be because
of your song.
And at that moment, I was like, and I need everybody to know this, my music has felt like my biggest
failure because I compared myself and I didn't think that I was,
I didn't get what I thought I should have.
And so I gave up and I went to something else,
where I knew I was safe and I was going to get my significance
in something that I was good at.
And so I know I cry right now thinking about it. But when he said that, the
first thing that came to my mind was, wow, my biggest failure was the biggest success
in this guy's life. Oh my gosh, it's so good. And like, I know I'm crying. But like it
says, she makes me cry when she cries. Like it makes me feel like heart beats the same. And so for me, I was like, wow, like I have so much more impact to give.
And this man, if I think of others,
of what I can do to help others,
and to inspire others, and to like create something
that gives somebody else, like this chance
to be themselves, to transform, to have their identity, which I just
recently found, I have to do this.
And so that was a huge shift, and I found my purpose again.
And I found more of a purpose rather than just approving myself for my success. And so it's still, you know, it's still an up and down battle and struggle of like,
you know, what should I do?
Is this the right thing?
All that stuff, it's a constant thing
that you think about, but when I come back,
but when I come back to that moment,
I'm like, okay, that was easy.
I just gotta get back to that moment every time. That's true drive. Like that's, okay, that was easy. I just got to get back to that moment every
time. That's true drive. Like that's, you can drive off of hate, which is one type of
drive, conserve, you know, or off of... Oh, thank you! I got to do it. I love that kind of
drive of betterment and of purpose versus spite. I'm rarely, rarely speeches when we do this.
That's unbelievable.
What a...
I feel like I compose myself there.
When you...
Yes, you.
I'm serious.
I tell you, look, it's wet, it's real.
It's like...
I told you.
But I know, man, but like what's so amazing about that
is you talk about your greatest failure, but also when you don't
This is what happens when you don't chase the best version of you
It's not just you that you cheat out of all the benefits of it
It's the people you love. It's the people around you
But it's the people you don't even know we're talking off camera about the effect being in this could be for you, right?
And so it's all the people you don't realize
you're not affecting because you didn't chase
the best version of you,
because you didn't use your natural giftedness
to its max out capacity.
It's all the other people whose lives you impact.
And for some of you are like,
well, I can't sing like she sings.
You have no idea, the amazing things,
the wonderful gifts you have,
that if you'd stopped cheating the world
out of half-assing those gifts,
and you maxed out those gifts, the difference you'd be
making with your special gifts, and other people's lives,
people you haven't even met, man.
I'm telling you, you'd be after it like you can't believe
because that's who gets cheated when you don't chase
the best version of you, when you don't max out your gifts.
So true.
Obviously, you two have an amazing relationship.
I'm curious, because you've given some of the keys to that.
Was there a key Brooks you would say if people are in a relationship or not, either struggling
or they just want to make their relationship better?
What makes this work so well?
You know what?
She, the first place I'd go with that is really easy.
She said it to me and it triggered the first time she said she goes, this was early on
when we met.
She's like, I want the best f-ing relationship ever.
And yeah, she, yeah, I left it, I don't know if you swear
on the short, I left it off.
It adds more, it adds, if I can say the whole word,
I just, I was kind of a bit about it,
but I'm a bit of a me.
So yeah, say it, to the people list,
they are watching, say it, to your partner,
like I want the best, and launch into that word.
Yeah, but it triggered, I was like, you know you're right. And we were talking before, like I I want the best, and launch into that word. Yeah, but it's rigging.
I was like, you know, you're right.
And we were talking before, like,
I don't want to live life anything under 100%.
Like, to me, and I told you before, that's suffering.
It's, there's greater suffering in the word,
don't get me wrong, there is.
But living life, anything under the best
is a form of suffering.
So I try and help people you try and do it,
which I love listening to your stuff and the stuff you put out in the world affects people and
Infects and inspires people to elevate the quality of their life and we do that with our relationship. So even on the way here, man, we stopped, we were listening to your podcast, we stopped it because we kept we pausing it and we're like we're talking about our relationship and about like and even after this, we sat in a driveway for like 10 minutes, talking about our relationship and stuff,
because we want the best, being at 100% and dropping to 75%
is not good enough.
We want to get back up to 100.
But you also have to be transparent,
you have to communicate,
you have to stand up for what you want.
We also have a thing where we say,
listen to understand, don't listen to respond.
And we have a, we'll usually prefaces, we have a little kind of code word that we use to will say same team
So like if she says same team to me that means Brooks
I'm gonna tell you something might rock your boat a little bit
But we're on the same team. We love each other and
Just know that and then also listen to understand me
Don't listen to respond to me and so and we and we also say like, this is important to me.
Yeah, she's great.
I'm not gonna just let it go.
Or, yeah.
And just like tell you all these crazy,
like, I can try to gauge what's important
and what's not important.
This is important to me.
I need to talk to you about this.
And clarity, like when she says that,
if she just taps, like she did their task,
when I said, babe, this is important to me.
Oh, gotcha, like you, you have me and I said, babe, this is important to me. Oh, gotcha.
You have me right now.
Gotcha, I will do that.
But if I'm not a mind reader, I can't read her mind.
She can't read my mind.
And so I think sometimes people just leave it up to that.
And also today, we were talking about taking the power
in your relationship.
So if something isn't going right,
or is maybe you're just disconnected a little bit
I'm gonna take the responsibility for that.
That it's my job to-
That it's my job not wait for them to spark me or I'm gonna take the responsibility for that
Even if it's I'm wanting something from that person
I'm gonna take the responsibility and we talked about that about both of us wanting to be like that
So that we're never expecting the other person to do it. And this is all, man, I'm a relationship idiot.
I never had until I had my wife, I didn't know anything about relationships.
She's taught me so much and continues to.
She's the leader of our relationship.
I learned so much from her.
I've blown away though. You're one year anniversary's this summer, right?
Yeah, but that'll be our five year together anniversary.
I've never heard.
So I spent also, there's so much there, like, she's, like, this is why I want you to
do more of this, okay?
This is important, like this, just so you know, this isn't normal what you're talking
about, it's extraordinary, okay?
But what you just said, there's, like one really simple thing, you set a standard for
the relationship. What's interesting is, we set standards in, you set a standard for the relationship.
What's interesting is we set standards in our lives
for all kinds of different things,
but most people don't do that in a relationship.
You just kind of go into it and have one.
Yeah, so that's suffering, man.
To me, that's something.
And we, we, like, that's part of the reason
why we do open source some of our relationship
and share it is that we've had people,
I've had people talk to me like,
thanks to you, I got out of a relationship because I want
true love I want somebody that just riffs my world open and I didn't know if
that existed out there for me I spent 10 years basically single before I met her
never always looking at the stars wondering am I ever gonna meet somebody that
just blew me away and I never knew if it was for me. I had success, I had fame, I had money, I was like anything else wanting a personal
life, having like an amazing wife, that's greedy, it's maybe not for me, life has
afforded me so much, don't know if I'll ever be happy personal life, but asking for
that with what I already have is too greedy. And I never, I never knew if I'd be
even though my ultimate destiny, I wanted to be a husband and a father.
That's my greatest destiny for me,
not athletic or any other achievements or money.
It's to be a serving husband and father.
Wow.
And one of the reasons this has worked,
is it's just, this is beyond.
It's two really good souls of coming together.
That's one of the reasons this has worked.
But also, just what she just said,
is kind of fascinating to me,
like people that watch this, you think there's this has worked, but also just what she just said is kind of fascinating. And me like people that watch this, you think,
there's this good looking, wealthy, successful,
professional athlete, and you'd think,
and this is a dude struggling with trying to find
his dream relationship.
Do you know what I mean?
Just so you know when you watch Instagram,
it's one of the things about social media,
it's like everyone's life seems perfect all the time.
And I love your vulnerability,
I love that you're willing to be authentic and real.
Like we got problems too. There's stuff I struggle with. I love that about you. One of the things
that I've watched in you though, and I love one of the things on your Instagram particularly,
and we'll talk about how to find you both in a minute. But you and I both, and so do you.
But as men, we both share this sort of belief that there is a
linkage between our physicality, our bodies, our working out, and this is 100% true for women too,
but I'm watching you because of some of the workouts you do are different than what I do as a dude, right?
So talk about a little bit about just fitness, working out, energy, health, wellness, all that stuff, how it applies for both of you.
Absolutely.
Well, for me, like that's part of...
So going back to what I said about foundations What matters to me in my life?
Some of the things the three things that matter to me proper rest
So I prioritize sleep at night because then I could wake up. I'm ready to go
Then it was health like nutrition what I put in my body was important
So then I could train the way I wanted to to express and and go after my dreams being professional hockey player
So those were the things that matter to me and now that even though I'm not playing hockey right now,
those still matter to me.
That's how I express myself.
My wife does it through dance, through singing,
through acting.
That's how she expresses her soul.
Mine is through intense physical activity,
usually married with human interaction.
That's team sports.
That's why I have a garage, GM in my house,
so I can have people over.
Yesterday, Lewis came over, worked out with me
and my wife made us a beautiful breakfast afterwards.
I mean, life is good, man.
I guess it's not good living.
Dude, it's good.
But that's how I express myself.
That's when I get, that's when I'm my most alive.
That's when I'm my best version,
my best husband to my wife.
That's when I'm my most creative,
my most grateful, my most giving.
Like, even at the gym, at the gym, I used to work out at before I had a home gym.
After I would come out of the gym, there's a dumpster right there. And I started this thing
where I was like, every time I see somebody at this dumpster, I'm in just in a state of
gratitude when I'm my peak state when I'm done working out. After I work during and
after my workout, I'm in a peak state, which what we talked about, you're the very similar.
That's when we're our best versions of ourselves.
But I'd see a homeless person at the time,
and I'd say whenever's the top bail on top of my wallet,
I would give to them.
Whatever's the top bail.
Whatever it was.
And it was kind of just like a little lottery,
like someday, if it was a dollar,
I'd try and give a couple more.
Someday, it'd be a hundred.
And I'd be like, oh, it's a hundred.
Someday, it'd be a 20 or a 50, but it was wonderful.
And that's when I really realized,
wow, this needs to stay in my life
because I'm my best version.
Like if I walked out of the gym,
I might not do that to this homeless person before.
Yes.
But this puts me in a different state.
This elevates me sometimes with my wife.
It's meditation.
Yes.
For her, you know, so she can tell you more about that.
But that physicality, that's how I express my soul.
I need it.
And then I can carry on with it.
And I think one thing about that, I'm that way too.
I think most people will find if they'll move their bodies,
you're going to find a change of state.
So you all know this, but sadness and depression
and all these things, we do those emotions.
We don't just feel them.
They're physical moves.
They're hunched over.
The breathing is different.
We've many of you learned these things.
That's wonderful to know it.
The differences do you apply it.
If you start changing your breathing,
so you and I change our breathing,
typically through moving our body and working out.
That's how we change our state.
Our blood gets pumped in.
Our nervous system's kicked in.
We get energy.
And my business ideas, my best thoughts, almost always inevitably come during or post a workout
couldn't agree more. It's just a fact we have we have a midday by the way in the office and midday dance party
you do you do we do a midday just just dance or music and we just get up and we jump around you don't have to be a
dance is Brooks dancing here is this is this a... Oh, no, this isn't our honor. You're off.
I would love to watch that.
But he dances.
No, he dances.
I heard that you didn't even train him
for the wedding dance, but that's all of the conversation.
I bought a, true sorry, I bought a dance DVD
about six months before I ever met her.
I didn't even know, like I didn't know her
because I wanted to learn to dance, but...
And this is the lesson, by the way, for the gentlemen.
I was going through the DVD with him because he wanted to learn to dance, but. And this is the lesson, by the way, for the gentleman. I was going through the DVD with him
because he wanted to learn this dance,
and we paused it, and I started teaching him,
and he goes, well, he didn't do it like that.
I was like, and.
I told him, I'm going to do this really soon, so.
I was like, and we're done.
That was my last dance.
I was like, my ego came out.
I was like, I'm the best dancer in the world.
What are you talking about?
We're just getting on.
Exactly.
But this picture is not how he did it.
There's a country line dancing, like two stepping line dancing,
DVD.
Oh, I'm dude.
So you move your body that way.
Yours is dance, but I also want to touch this because I do this too.
So you're also big on just quieting your mind
to a little bit of dancing meditation, too.
Just tell them how that served you know
okay so obviously meditation is is really hard and I want
to put it out there meditation is hard I mean especially
in the day and age that we live in when everything is moving
fast and we're on our phones and we're thinking about the
next big idea and this is happening I mean like that what feeds us, so we want to keep going.
But sometimes, like, what I've felt is, when you meditate, you get rid of things that
you're storing within you that are like cluttering up your space.
When you let that go, you get all this inspiration and all of this like just knowing this of what you need to do and
Clarity and realization and it just flows through you whether you believe that's God or the divine
Whatever you call it your own intuition. It just goes through you and when I'm finished with that
I'm like oh bam bam bam bam done done. Gotta go. And it's so easy.
So in fact,
I can tell when she meditates,
she just tells us just in state.
And in fact, I can resonate like what's going on
in our relationship, why we feel disconnected like that.
In the past, I'm like, something's wrong.
I don't know.
Like, I'm not getting your attention,
you know, like feeling all, like, emotional about it.
And instead, I'll do like a chakra meditation,
go through everyone, and literally at every stage,
it will, like, I will get insight of what is going on,
and I'll first be angry, and I'll be like,
he's such an asshole, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I'm being dramatic, This is dramatic effect.
And then I'll go to the next chakra,
which is like, I'm just so hurt by this.
And then the next one is like, oh, you know what?
This was actually the reason why.
He was being a good person,
but he just had the wrong intention.
And then I'll go up to my heart.
Oh my gosh, he's so amazing.
And he actually just was trying to help.
And then my go up to my throat
chocolate.
I'm like, oh, I just need to tell him.
And then I'll come downstairs.
I have no emotion attached to it.
I just said, hey, babe, I think we're disconnected.
This is kind of what I've been feeling.
And he goes, oh, yeah, I've been feeling that too.
But, you know, so it's such a really easy way to get clarity.
But it is hard.
So like, to be able to find
like a facility or like there are things online that can guide you through.
Like I would suggest that. But I also can I just tell you one thing? Because I get
really excited about this. Okay so you like to work out, get that energy pump in,
you feel really masculine and just like like I can do this, you know, like whatever's next.
Like throwing heavy stuff around.
Yeah, so for women, I believe that they're,
and this is something that I'm really exploring
and like trying to find like a method or something
for women to explore because there's so much power
in this for a woman.
I believe that women get scared by the word sexuality.
And I think that there's a difference between sexuality and sexuality.
I think we project sexuality, like we have to be sexual to someone, and it's for someone
else, but when you're sensual, it's for yourself.
And there's this total like, sensual love and connection that you get with your own energy. And when you move your body, when you meditate,
when you do certain things, when you embrace that power,
there is nothing more beautiful
than a woman owning her sensuality.
And so, like, I'm-
And it, from a guy's point of, when you do that,
like, as my wife, when she does,
I'm like, that's very sexy, but not like,
not like, uh, not like, chachki, just like, you'm like, that's very sexy. But not like, not like, uh,
not like, Chachki, just like, you know,
just very sensually sexy.
I'm like, it's a very strong, sexy woman.
What an amazing distinction.
And, and, and I'm not doing it for him.
Yeah.
I'm doing it for me to own my sensuality.
And because of that, he, my energy is like a total,
like polarization of his masculine energy that he just did with
this workout and he's feeling great.
And then this femininity that's just, but it's powerful.
Femininity I think also people think it's like this like soft.
You can have a soft feminine energy and you can have a freaking fiery, powerful feminine
energy as well.
So this is something that I'm really kind of moving towards
to help women embrace that sensuality
and fluidity in their body and own, you know, like girls.
We got a lot of power.
Yes, we do.
I'm loving this.
Like, I'm sorry, we're gonna go a little longer, guys,
because this is too damn good.
So real to me, and like honestly, that was so well said like what amazing info like that. I'm in this space, right?
So like it's kind of rare for me to hear things
I've not heard and like the way you say it and think like so good so
Thank you really really
Really, and that's so good. You're such an amazing couple now first thing because I want to get this out now
They now they know you this is sort of silly, but like where do they find you? And that's so good. You're such an amazing couple. Now first thing, because I want to get this out now,
they know you, this is sort of silly,
but where do they find you?
So Brooks, first, how do they engage?
How do they find you?
What's the best way to get to you?
Yeah, Instagram, across all socials,
at Brooks' like.
Yeah, but spell like some of them.
My last name is pronounced like L-I-K-E,
but spelled L-A-I-C-H.
So Brooks, L-A-I-C-H, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,
YouTube, at BrooksLike.
One of the really unique things about Brooks,
and you're gonna see Brooks' content evolve,
and I think you're gonna be able to engage
on even different levels with him going forward.
But one of the things about Brooks
that I think is very unique,
and obviously Julianne has this gift in droves,
but he's unique in the space as an athlete.
So he's got credibility with you, right? He's already achieved.
He's already produced peak level results, but he's able to articulate and
transfer energy through the camera in a way that's very unique as an athlete.
He's a very special guy.
And so, and I know you feel really embarrassed by what I'm saying, but,
but it's really true.
And so he's a very unique person on social media
that he's got a 14 year career plus
of peak performance achievement.
Then he attracts into his life to a magnificent woman.
And so you want some of what he's got.
And he's able to communicate it to you and teach you things.
And his videos aren't like, hey, we're floppin' on.
There's also tactics and strategies there.
So follow him.
And then in your case, Jules, where do they find you?
On Instagram, it's at Jules Huff, H-O-U-G-H.
My last name is also hard to spell,
and pronounced.
And then on Facebook and Twitter, it's at Juliane Huff.
And they both got, by the time this comes out, too,
they both got some really cool things
cooking that's coming forward, too.
So that's why you want to be following them.
So it's so good so far, but a couple more questions.
Okay, I actually give you a one-h, but the same thing.
I think that if I want to give people a gift that are watching this, it would be if they
could have lunch with you, and they could sit down, or they got ten minutes with you,
and there weren't cameras around, and they could just ask you something, right?
So, I'll ask you first books, and then I'll have a jewel's answer.
But if they ask you, hey man, like, I want to make my family proud of me. I want to chase the best version of me.
I want to create this business. I want to transform my body. I want a transformation in my life,
right? What advice would you give me overall on creating a transformation in my life and
chasing the best version of me? The first, honestly, the first thing I'd ask you is, what do you want?
the best version of me. The first, honestly, the first thing I'd ask you is,
what do you want?
When you ask somebody that question, like,
and what do you want?
You, and people give you a little shishia,
no, no, no, you, just you, in your life.
And sometimes it takes a while for people to get the courage
to get it out.
And to get clear, huh?
And get specific.
It's very general too much.
Yeah, tell me exactly what you want.
Yeah. Okay. You want it?
Why do you want that?
Great. That is exactly, that's what I start my life.
What do I want? Why do I want it?
This what I want? I don't know how.
But this is what, this is enough for me
to then apply my intelligence and my resources,
everything to figure out and execute that.
But you need to know first, man.
You need to target before you can release.
You're pulling a bow, you need to somewhere to shoot it
before you let it go.
So I like asking people that question,
what do you want?
At your core.
Yes.
Don't BS me, I can see through that.
If you're taking up 10 minutes,
you got 10 minutes of my time, let's go,
let's get to it now.
And then everything else is a distraction.
Everything that doesn't lead to this exact thing that you just everything else is a distraction. Everything that doesn't
lead to this exact thing that you just told me is a distraction even though you
might like it maybe it's part time you get rid of it as Tony says burn the
boats. Yeah, you know like my parents had that that conversation with me at the
supper table like what if you can't be a hockey player like dad was a principal
is like you should have an education in your back or in your back pocket like
dad would be a hockey player and he's like, you should have an education in your back or in your back pocket. Like dad would be a hockey player. And he's like, well,
what if you don't? What if you hurt your knee? I rehab it and I become a hockey
player. And I burned the boats. I got rid of this is what I want. And I didn't know
how, but when I was 14, I didn't know how I was going to make the NHL. But the NHL
was already in my hands. I owned it. I owned it. It was mine. My friends that would
try and get me to drink or go to parties or smoke.
Still some of my best friends in my life. They were my groomsmen, but they tried to get me off that path
But I was like, you guys don't even know what I'm I'm five years away from this in the NHL
I'm 14 but I'm 19 in the NHL already like I knew what I wanted
Didn't know how but I knew what I wanted and I knew why because it was how he's gonna express
It was what I needed to do with my life
So I would try and get that out of a person.
And everything else is a distraction.
100% I posted today, today I made a post.
I said the extraordinary or fuel by why
and the average are always stuck with how.
And so, and what I find when I ask people that question,
it's why I don't do it on the show anymore.
I've had too many even of my own guests when I go,
what do you want? Uh, uh, it's very vague. It's why I don't do it on the show anymore. I've had too many even of my own guests when I go, what do you want? It's very vague. It's very vague. And so it the
rarest thing is to ask somebody that question they can give you a specific, clear, compelling
answer.
The other thing, like I just, you posted that today, I posted yesterday, if you're going
to have one thing in your life, you're going to have one thing, have a magnificent obsession
with getting better.
Give me a go. Whatever it is, whatever's your, like you wake, I mean that's what I'm doing now. If I'm
not in hockey, I'm following the flow of my life. What do I gravitate towards? Because
I'm not getting paid for it, but what's my thing that I love? That's telling me where I
should be. That's right. And then have a magnificent obsession with improving that.
Yes. And it will find a way to monetize itself. You'll be successful.
It really does, by the way.
It really does.
And you're uprooted.
It moves towards your curiosity.
On your obsession.
Your obsessions become your possessions.
You're going to possess what you're obsessed with.
And here's the issue for most people.
They're obsessed with their fears.
They're obsessed with what they're worried about.
They're obsessed with what other people think about them.
They're obsessed with all of these things
and you end up possessing these things.
You said earlier and I fully believe
that we are so much more capable.
Yes.
Then we even know there's so much,
there's even in you, I mean,
you've been Uber successful in your life and man,
you haven't even, you're just starting to scratch.
There's so much left and my wife too and me,
like people, we're doing well, and a lot of people are doing well, but we are so much left and my wife too, and me, like, people, we're doing well,
and a lot of people are doing well,
and but we are so much more,
and it just fires me, I mean, lights me up,
to even think, like, just ripping that open.
What does that even look like today?
Even that thought, like, think bigger.
My wife is great at this, she challenged me at this,
she thinks so big.
And sometimes I'm like, that's not even,
you want to, like, you want a spaceship with a heart of an yard?
I don't know what you want, he is.
I don't even know where we're going here.
Come back there, it's a little bit.
But we think big like that.
You want us, can I?
We get it.
We got so much.
Just because it's gonna pull you higher
and you need to get, like, you are,
I just believe, man, that people are so, life can be so much better.
You're so much more capable.
Just sink your energy and your time,
your intensity, your passion into it.
Everything else is a distraction.
Dude, you're firing me to her cold triangle.
I'm serious.
And by the way, it like,
You just want to move though.
You just want to move.
I kind of want to like punch, slap,
go do something big with you right now.
But like, but what's interesting about that,
just a little bit,
Jules wrapped things up on that.
But I just want to tell you all this too,
like watch what we're doing to each other here.
The other thing I want you to see.
We're camping to the end.
Right, because I want you to find mentors and friends
who can stretch and move and motivate you,
not just always validate you,
not just always make you laugh,
hey bro, good to see you.
I have tons of friends like that.
People say, oh, drop your friends,
no, you don't have to drop any friend in your life.
But you gotta add people who stretch you and push you
and get you to visualize and inspire you, right?
Like that's part of the formula.
And if you don't have them,
you gotta do it yourself for now.
But still be seeking out those people, so.
Well, and they, you know, people always say that, like, with celebrities.
Oh, people are always being the yes man, but we have
yes men in our personal lives too.
So, like, that is exactly what you got.
You know, and it's like, it's not just celebrities.
It's everybody.
Like, we have yes men all over the place.
Like, stop validating me.
Tell me what to do.
Like, just actually, like, call me out.
There should be some friends you have where like,
you gotta clean up the house before they come over, man.
Like you should have some people like,
hey, there's some still people you wanna have
your eight game for in your life, right?
So this is unreal.
I'm just telling you straight up,
like I'm like, this is unreal.
I'm still feel so blessed, but I wanna finish with you.
So it's hard to add to any of this.
I know it is.
But you've had all this experience, you've traveled the world, you had this amazingly unique
childhood, you've attracted this dream man, you've had all these achievements and you've
remaking yourself again, which I admire so much and in five more years you'll be remaking
again.
I know that.
But what advice would you give to?
Maybe it's a woman.
I don't know.
That's listening to this.
It says, hey, I want something special in my life.
What would you say that maybe we haven't added yet? What would you add to it? Is
there something? I mean, the first thing that just popped in when you were talking just
now is that it is about reinventing yourself all the time and continuing to grow. I think
you know, a lot of people are like, you've changed and you're response should be like,
thank you. You know, and it's like, you know, and, yeah. And it's amazing that we tell ourselves our stories of who we are, but that's who we
were.
We're continuing, growing, and becoming the people that we're building.
And as we become the person that we're becoming and the achievements and the things that we want,
it's not about what we want, it's about who we want to be when we have all of this.
And so I think at the end of the day, it always comes back to us and it's like, not what
is it that I want to be, but who is it that I want to be?
And I said it that I think at the very beginning
when we were talking about how we met,
what you put out into the universe is what you're going to get.
And if you're putting negative thoughts,
if you're saying, like, I don't know how,
I don't know how to do this, I can't do that,
I can't do that.
Instead of like visualizing, putting your goals,
like do a one year, do a
three year, do a five year, do a ten year, do it like one month and do small achievable
goals so that you can actually attain them and celebrate them and realize like I have
the power to do these things. And then you get this confidence of who you are and then
it just, things just start happening. Like it it's an amazing thing, whether it's God,
the universe, whatever you believe,
your own innate willpower, whatever you put out,
you're gonna get.
And so, like, put out some good shit, guys.
You know?
Jules, you're so right.
Like, you said something else,
you just wanna layer on.
Like, I'm just moved.
I just gotta be honest, it's so damn good.
But, you also literally, you said something.
You said, I'm enough. At one point, you're that's so damn good, but you also literally said something, you said I'm enough, at one point you're enough.
It's like you have to accept right now
you have everything within you, you need to go win.
You're all you need to be right now to go win.
You're getting better to prepare you for the next moment
and the next moment, right?
And one of my fakes, sorry, I cut you off.
You're off.
You're good, you're good.
You're so excited.
One of my favorite analogies and visualizations of this is if your cup is full and somebody's
pouring into it, all this information and like more like you know, I can help you with
this and it's just overflowing.
You're like, I can't deal with this.
This is too much.
It's too much.
You sometimes just have to pour it out and then you can start filling up again.
You know, it's like you know what you know right now,
and that's great, and that's gonna get you to that next step.
But once you're there, pour that damn cup out
and start over, you know, and it's like,
all this new information comes in,
and then you're able to actually download it and receive it.
So good.
Where are you gonna say something on that?
Sorry, I got excited.
No, we do a lot of like creative planning stuff
in our in our garage.
And it was actually, we were talking about this the other day
because we're trying to, she was helping me
with the next stage of my life, my reinvention.
And something we put up on the board,
her brother Derek was also helping.
And we put up on the board, what do we want to do?
And who do we need to become to do it?
And it's exactly what she's talking about is,
and we talked about have your vision,
what you want to do, okay, that's great.
And then who do I need to become to do this?
And I tell her this all the time, we work on this.
I tell her this, I'm building a man
that's better than I am right now.
So I'm not yet this man, but I have a vision,
I a concept of who he is, and she'll say,
like there'll be some mornings I'll wake up at five or five, 30 go work out,
or six, or whatever, say, oh, baby, it's early.
I'm like, yeah, but I'm building this man
that's capable of more.
When we have kids, he needs to work out before we have kids.
We don't have kids yet, but this man needs to be capable
of that stuff before we even there.
So I always work towards this far distant man
that's better than I am, and I acknowledge
he's better than I am, but I aspire to be like him
and gradually just move in that needle every day.
And someday as I fail, someday as I take a step back.
Oh my gosh, I wanna kiss you right now.
We can kill you, buddy.
No, I'm serious, like.
We all just best friends right now.
That was like, no, like, I just wanna say something,
like it's so good.
So I talk all the time that I think at the end of my life,
I'm a Christian, I believe that I hope I want the Lord
to go, hey, well done, good and faithful servant.
But I also think he's gonna go, hey man,
this is the man you could have been.
I want you to meet the man you were capable of becoming.
At the end of your life, I think you met the person
you were destined to be.
And my life is chasing down that dude.
Every decision I make, I'm trying to chase that dude down.
So at the end of my life, when I meet him,
he shakes my hands and says, hey hey man I've been watching you great job
and were identical twins yeah the worst end of a life would be to go to the end
and you meet that woman and your total strangers and she had she had
experiences and memories and contributions and differences great and great
so I'm my barometer is chasing down that person exactly you're saying you're
trying to build that better man build that better woman and it's the
Blissful dissatisfaction correct the same thing you're happy. You're not satisfied. You're still you love your life
You like you look at the life you live at family like sure you have fantastic life, but still it's not it's not not that it's not enough
It's just not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. I'm enough, but it's not enough
Yeah, this today was just mind blowing for me just to be honest
It's mind blowing because it gave us a peek into both of your lives also you know things to get from one
level next but also for elite elite performers how to separate a little bit too and so I
think you're both wonderful. I'm so blown away like I'm this literally so this is really
good there's no editing. I want to thank both of you for today so much and thank you.
We can go forever. We could. I know.
I have another thought and I'm like,
well, I'll tell you I'll ask you.
I know.
But I know what people are going to say.
They're going to say, have them back.
And so we need to do that again.
Or maybe you'll have me on your show when that show comes out.
So and we'll talk some more.
So I want to also thank the audience because you've
been so good to us.
And I bring you some of the most, I mean you people who
have maxed out their lives in different areas
and are chasing the maxed out version of themselves.
And obviously these two are an absolute example of that.
And I all I ask you, you already know how to follow me because you're watching this.
But I'd ask if you're watching this on YouTube, give it a like or a thumbs up.
But if it's on iTunes, throw that thing a review.
We were number one in the world last month, number two this month.
Get to number one.
I'll test you.
Come on, don't be this morning.
We're getting to number one.
So we're dependent on you to do that.
We need you. We need you. And don't forget to be the morning. We're getting to number one. So we're depending on you to do that.
We need you.
We need you.
And don't forget the max out two minute drill on Instagram every day.
When I make a post, everybody who makes a post with a hashtag max out within the first
two minutes, you enter a drawing.
We pick a winner every day.
You can win gear, coaching call with me, visit to my home, and sometimes access to one
of my guests in a coaching call too.
So you want to make sure you're making those posts every day.
God bless you.
I'll be one of those for your winner. He just offered so you can get access to Brooks
while that's huge brother. So make your posts. Thank you for that. Thank you for today. God bless and
max out. Thank you.