THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Life After Death w/ Tyler Henry
Episode Date: October 24, 2023What would you give to have ONE MORE CONVERSATION with people who have passed from this world? Is it even possible?This week, you’re going to meet a young man who uses his REMARKABLE GIFT to help pe...ople HEAL and find COMFORT AND CLOSURE from the pain associated with losing a loved one.TYLER HENRY has become one of the most well-known CLAIRVOYANT MEDIUMS in the world.You might've seen Tyler on shows like "LIFE AFTER DEATH WITH TYLER HENRY" and "HOLLYWOOD MEDIUM" where he sits down with the likes of Jim Parson, Megan Fox, Crissy Metz and his chilling session with the late Alan Thick where he warns him about his heart health just months before his heart-related death.In this episode we discuss:Dealing with regret and lossWhy grieving isn't just necessary but crucialThe raw power of genuine intentHarnessing intuition to receive unseen messages.The intriguing link between metabolic processes and Tyler's sessionsOld souls, past lives and reincarnation (it's not what you think)Embracing mindfulness in our fast-paced worldAccepting grief as an ever-evolving journeyThe fine line between gut feelings and fearTyler offers a fresh perspective that might just reshape how you view your own journey, especially during trying times.No matter what you believe, this episode will deepen your understanding of life, death and the unknown.
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This is The Edmila Show.
Welcome back everybody.
This young man sitting across from me, I have wanted to talk to for years.
And he's just a gentle soul, a kind spirit.
But he does have some gifts that I've never seen in another person before,
and I'm really interested in unpacking his understanding of those gifts.
And just maybe some of the gifts we all have laying dormant within us that maybe he's
just uncovered a little more deeply than we have.
And so he has a Netflix series out right now streaming called Life After Death with
Tyler Henry, which would make sense because sitting in front of me is Tyler Henry.
Well, not even Life After Death is Tyler Henry, which is probably good.
We're all kicking.
We're here.
We're presence is so glad to be on.
Thank you for having me.
Thrilled your here, brother.
I'm so thrilled you're here.
Okay.
Let's get into this.
First thing I want to know, is there a pressure on you like everywhere you go,
not only do people want you to read them,
but is there, is he real?
Sure.
Do you have that thing like when you meet people,
almost a thing like I,
because I think in every human,
like if you're in any type of a public purse,
you want to make sure people believe you're authentic
and real, but my gosh, with you that's got to be
everywhere you go, people are kind of,
is it real, is it not real?
Absolutely, you know, it's kind of different being a public figure in the spiritual realm because it's not
really like being an actor or singer where when people recognize you, they love your work, they,
kind of connect on a more creative level. But when people see me in public, I find that I kind of
almost represent to some connection with a loved one. And that representation puts a lot of pressure.
You know, people come and they're asking me what I'm getting around them and I'm at the supermarket and I've learned, you know,
how to kind of navigate those situations with sensitivity and handle accordingly. There have
been times where I've spontaneously shared something with someone and while it's interesting,
it takes a lot of energy and there's a time and a place for reading. So I find I prefer people
reach out to me versus walking up to people.
Is there just a weight to it, Tyler, just being you?
Absolutely. There's also a levity.
And that's one thing that I think people find surprising around the subject of
mediumship. They think of it as this thing that's dark and sad and spooky and
involving ghosts. But if anything, my life and what I've learned as a result
of these messages is given me a deeper appreciation for life, a deeper awareness of how to live fully and meaningfully, and to really
prevent future regret. That's been the greatest gift these awarenesses have given me to say it now
while I have the chance. Do you have any insight about that regret? Like if people that you've dealt
with either that are here or in the thereafter, like some
of the telltale signs of regret, is that somebody who let fear rule their entire life and
they left this place not fulfilling their potential?
Is it the way they treated one another when they were here?
Like, what's the source do you think of regret for a lot of people?
Well, you know, it's multifaceted.
It kind of depends on the context of, you know, personal regret of the person who passes
or even the regret we feel when someone passes as far as how maybe we could have handled things
better. I always tell people when it comes to the loss of a loved one that regret is kind of
part for the course, even if you know your loved one is going to pass, even if there's time to
prepare. So often, we just wish there had been more time to say more, to do more. So even under
the best of circumstances, I think regret is very often prevalent in people's grief and I think this speaks to
the importance of doing everything we can to try to mitigate that in the
here and the now with those who are alive. By the way I want to make sure
everyone else knows this. He has this book here and here after how wisdom from
the departed can transform your life now. And I got a chance to go through that. Yeah, and maybe I'm strange.
I think about death a lot.
It actually causes me, I think anyone that's followed
my work knows I do.
And I find that it causes me to be more present now
because I'm so grateful for being here.
I think knowing that's eminent, that reminder
causes me to live more fully now.
Do you, you must spend a lot of your time on that topic
because it's something you're connecting to all the time?
Or do you not even believe in the concept of death necessarily?
I definitely believe in the concept of death
and I believe that with the grief process,
it's normal and natural even if you have a spirituality
to grieve that physical absence.
And I think it's important.
So as a spiritual person, I still grieve. I still cry when I've lost loved ones or pets.
But I think it's just changed how I honor them. I've learned to not define those who we've lost
by their death. We owe it to them to remember them for who they were, for what they represented,
for their passions, for their purpose, for the value they gave to us.
And I think we can take that and introduce that into a world
that will never get the chance to physically meet that person
because they've passed.
It gives them almost a second life through our actions
and through how we kind of choose to carry them on.
It's amazing how God works, whatever you believe,
or if you know that I have a deep faith.
But I, so just yesterday,
I have a new TV show that I'm doing. It's not out yet, so I can't get in all the details of it,
but it's a show where I help people and their families. And anyway, the family that I was with
yesterday, there's three sons and a mother, and their father took his own life about eight years ago.
took his own life about eight years ago. And there's just been tremendous grief, tremendous trauma.
And I almost wish I had met you the day before,
to maybe bring them a little bit more comfort.
But I was curious, do you believe the way in which someone passes
impacts where they go or where they are or how they communicate from where they've gone.
Sure.
Compared to, say, a peaceful passing.
Yeah.
I think it really all boils down to intention.
I think the basis of all spirituality is intent.
So when we talk about situations where people have passed under circumstances that were
perhaps particularly tragic, I've had those people come through Claire's Day perfectly
fine. And then Equal Life had
situations where someone goes through a long progression of
cancer over eight months and they pass and everybody expects
it, but they come through a little bit more aware, I guess, of
some of the things that would have done differently. So to answer
that I would say it's less about what gets someone over
there. It's more about our mindset that we have before we get over there.
And very often in cases with mental health, I think it's so important to not
delinize mental health. And the brain is part of the body, and so often people come who have
taken their own lives. And when that comes through, there's just such a clarity of understanding
that the brain is just part of the body, that the brain can get sick, just like any other organ.
of understanding that the brain is just part of the body, that the brain can get sick, just like any other organ. And that in essence, we are, I think, so much more even than, obviously,
our bodies be even our brains. They kind of view it as almost like a radio, and consciousness
is the channel, and if the radio is broken, you're not going to get a clear signal with the channel.
So it seems to kind of almost reflect that analogy with the brain, that we're more even
than that. Right. Someone on my show that he tried to take his own life.
He actually jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge.
Yes.
I'm familiar with that one.
Yes.
And I've asked, he corrected me in the show.
And he said, this term mental health may be a little dangerous.
He said, it's really brain health.
Brain health.
And if we begin to look at it more that way, I actually shared that with his family yesterday.
Wow. Mental health is almost like, you know, someone's a tortured soul or something like that.
But to some extent, it can be chemical. It can be a brain health issue.
Absolutely. Yes.
I got to ask you this because I'm just curious about it.
Are you afraid to die?
I still look both ways when I cross the street.
I still encourage people to stop at red lights.
There's so much that I don't know.
And-
I love that about you.
The unknown, I think scares everybody a little bit.
But what I can say is what I have seen, the glimpses that I've been given, have given
me a deep comfort to know that when I do go, though I don't claim to know what happens
in its entirety when we pass.
I know that I won't be alone.
And that gives me a piece, I could bring me to tears, that knowing this and not only
will I not be alone but none of us will ever truly be alone.
And I know in life how often people feel alone in their grief and I think nobody understands,
but when people come through, they seem to acknowledge more of a reunion. And being with loved ones, even when they maybe didn't even necessarily feel them.
You're making me cry.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Just thinking about my dad, he had tough life and didn't allow himself to feel the bliss
he was entitled to when he was here.
You know, so many people live their lives like that. He just didn't give himself the gift of the bliss he could entitled to when he was here. You know, so many people live their lives like that.
He just didn't give himself the gift of the bliss
he could have had when he was here most of the time,
some of the time, but not often enough.
And one of the things that comforted me
when he passed is knowing that he gets the gift of that now.
And that means the world to me.
You're getting to me brother already, way too early.
That's important.
I wanna put this in that we're gonna weave this in when I ask you this question, cause it's mind blowing to me. But're getting to me, brother, already. Way too early. That's important. I want to put this in that we're going to weave this in when I ask you this question,
because it's mind blowing to me.
You've done a lot of readings.
You've read friends of mine.
And I've told you some of them are skeptics going in.
And then the other thing I should tell you too, the one I think would make you feel good
and make my audience feel good.
Prior to having you on, and I had John Edward on as well, I actually asked some of my most
faith-based friends, some of them pastors, some
of them, some of the most famous pastors in the world. And I won't remain, they'll remain
nameless, but I said, hey, am I, you think this is okay? And I was surprised to a person
and like, I'd really be interested to hear more. And I'm open. And maybe it would help
clearly define some of the things I do or don't believe. And so I was a little bit surprised by that.
It wasn't, oh, it's blast for me.
It's this or that.
And I thought, how wonderful that was.
The validation of your work of all the things I've seen you do,
and I want people to see this clip
so we will weave it in in the audio and the video here,
but was a reading you did with Alan Thick.
And it's giving me chills right now.
But Alan Thick, if you guys don't know,
is a very, very well-known actor.
His son is the famous Robin Thick.
And I'll let the clip play as we're doing this,
but as you're reading him,
I could see the discomfort on your face,
almost like I've got to share this with him.
And you essentially warned this man
while he was here, your face is changing, as I say it,
about his heart and about his blood pressure.
When it comes to a family and a gene perspective,
it's possible that within your family,
there might be multiple men who end up at a later age
dealing with blood pressure issues,
but also deal with either a heart murmur or a heart arrhythmia.
But I feel like I have to go to heart
and this correlates with blood pressure.
So just kind of keep that in mind.
And he sort of said, there's no history of that in my family. No history of heart disease. Sure. In the family.
And over the whole, he passed of a exactly related issue to what you had warned him about during the reading.
What was that experience like for you when it was coming through to you? And what's it like for you
now knowing it was confirmed? At the time, it was just insistent. I had this level
and coming through for him who had clearly died. What I think was in essence the same
problem that he later passed up. And this level was coming through and encouraging him
to go to this doctor to go get this checked. And he laughed and he said,
I'll thank this doctor Tyler. And at the time, I thought, you know, I gave it my best
shot. I for two minutes straight was just going on about you need to get your heart
checked, you need to get your heart checked, you get your heart checked.
And so there was only so much I could do in just being the messenger.
But when I got the news, I remember we were driving down the road.
And I just broke down thinking about his wife who I knew I had to meet again.
And it was so beautiful because we made a connection shortly after he passed.
And I went to Santa Barbara Barbara where his widow was.
And when I was there with her, the only message that came through that morning was seeing
sunny side eggs, egg sunny side up when I'd woken up that morning.
I didn't know what that meant, but I went to see Tanya and as we were walking out, I just
said, you know, Alan just wants to, you know, sunny side eggs, the sun's coming out.
I don't know what this means.
And she said that when she received the news that Alan had died, she was alone.
And she said, she said, out loud, oh my God, Alan, the sun in my life has gone out.
Oh, geez.
And by giving that one message, that one symbol of sunny side eggs,
it was his way, I think of saying, you know what, the sun is going to come out
again. Oh my gosh.
Really?
The power of a single image, power of a single message.
Is that how it comes through to you? Is some sort of an edge that you're not sure what
it means, but you'll see, what do you see or feel? I'm curious when this is, by the way,
that's remarkable. I tire part of it of you. I could see, when we're seeing you're hearing
the clip, you probably don't
want to be delivering bad news. You want to be delivering, your loved one misses you,
and this is all sunny and rosy, and you've got this thing you have to impart.
Yes.
But that's just remarkable. What is happening when you're getting this, we'll call it
advanced intuition for the sake of discussion right now. Is that a fair thing to say?
Absolutely. Yeah, inner tuition, we all have it, but I think when I do reading really it's multifaceted, I say my sixth sense
kind of uses the other five senses to communicate.
So very often I'll get a physical sensation
that corresponds with how someone passed.
Other times I'll hear what sounds like a song stuck
in my head, but it'll be a name.
Other times I'll feel as if I'm having memories,
but I know they're not mine.
And then I realize, okay, this is someone else's memory.
And that's when I realize that's usually where you get the really crazy specific stuff. So it basically
is my mind and body is almost like a canvas to paint the picture. But I wanted to kind of
go back to your earlier point about faith. One of the most beautiful things about this
work for me and what I hope to impart in these readings with others is to create a catalyst where people can see the
value of faith in their life.
And not only that, get to a place of faith into trust.
My work in growing up in a faith-based community showed me and told me to have faith in something
I couldn't see.
And a God that I wanted to meet, but looked around.
Maybe not too soon.
Right, exactly.
But the trust that these validations have given me, the knowingness that love continues
on, that the bonds we create in this realm don't die, has validated my faith through trust
in such a way, through first-hand experience, that's made me, I think, faithful in a whole
of the level that I can't even convey.
It's beyond blind faith. And that, for me, is, I think, in a whole other level that I can't even convey. It's beyond blind faith.
And that for me is, I think, the greatest form.
Let's unpack that.
What do you mean, you say trust?
How has that been developed and what has caused you
to have that trust?
I want to understand that.
First-hand experience, it's one thing to believe in an afterlife,
to believe in a certain afterlife,
in a certain frame of reference,
as to how we view theology.
But it's another thing altogether to sit with someone and have the message of the sun's
going to come out again for you someday.
And things like that that are so touching, but to me, I think, if anything, validate a
higher power.
It validates that we're not alone.
It validates the consciousness is a lot more complex than we realize.
And for me, it's kind of an anti-materialist framework, which aligns perfectly with faith
and religion.
Anti-materialist meaning, it's not about accumulations in your life.
Well, so materialism is kind of the antithesis of spirituality.
It's the idea that everything is physical.
There are people who are materialists who essentially believe that this is all there is
when we die.
That's it.
And...
What are your face changes even when you say that.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I get it because I think, you know, it's a very easy place to live
in.
The idea of this is all there is and that's comforting for some people.
And that's why it's not me, though.
And I get it.
But a lot of people do, a lot of skeptics, cynics, you know, just would find an afterlife
frightening.
And I get it. I get it. The unknown is scary
and everyone responds differently. So Dr. Drew, my friend who's been on the show, you
were booked. I said, give me the scoop. Give me the scoop. Right. And he tells me, I'll
mess this up. You can fix it for me, but just I'll set the stage for it. He said, I'll mess this up, you can fix it for me, but I'll set the stage for it.
He said, I had to read a very skeptical person. He says he hooked you up to, I think, an EKG
and some sort of brain monitor of some type.
And he said it was sort of unbelievable
was going on in his brain.
Yeah.
That you had, correct me if I'm wrong,
but you had some hyperactivity going on in the brain
that was incredibly hyperactivity,
but you were almost also simultaneously in a sleep state.
And the reason I ask you about what that feels like is, I almost feel like that's a
high-performance state in general.
Meaning, if you take a great athlete and they're going to, they're in the batter's box,
they've got to execute.
They're in a hyperactive state, but the more calm and flow state they can find themselves
in, they can perform. If I want to go out on the stage where I speak in front of 30,000, 40 the more calm and flow state they can find themselves in, they can perform.
If I want to go out on the stage where I speak in front of 30, 40,000 people and I walk out,
I want to be in a hyperactive brain state where I'm functioning on every cylinder I possibly
can, but at the same time, I've slowed things down and I'm as calm as I possibly can.
So it feels to me not that dissimilar from high performance than everything else.
Do you sense that happening in you?
Were you surprised by that reading and what does that actually feel like when you're
doing it?
I love that you said flow state because I'm a big fan of talisman, some philosophy there.
And there's really something to be said about those activities that we do that make time
feel like it doesn't exist.
Whether it's dancing, interviewing, doing, reading, painting a picture, those activities that
immerse us, I think are really great indicators of our purpose and where we can find greater
meaning.
So, in my life, I found that my readings are very much like an active daydream.
I get into a state where I'm both very much awake, but very much kind of creating and
opening up a place of a deep inner world where I'll see symbology
get feelings and have to kind of discern between what's, you know, in front of me and what's coming
through. Did it scare you the first time, Tyler? How old were you when it happened? Did it
go, oh my gosh, what's happening? You know, I had my first premonition of my grandmother's death
when I was 10 years old in April of 2006, but as time went on, you know, these moments of knowingness
as I called them would happen increasingly.
And it was very frightening.
I had a lot less control before I would scribble
over my readings.
And so they would come to me at random.
I would have times of choking kidney pain.
My mom would brush me to the emergency room one time.
There were several moments where I was having a lot
of medical problems that were very mysterious. and they didn't really understand why.
And I've often attributed it to kind of being a conduit and being that canvas that information
gets painted on.
Why do you think you sweat so much sometimes?
I think there's some deep metabolic process happening.
And I'm looking into more scientific research as far as being tested to try to kind of get
an understanding of what's going on in the physical body, but it's very clear it is a byproduct of something
going on.
You know, people think could it be the lights, you know, when you're sitting with the
person, you know, get those hot lights, but I encourage people to look at that and think
like the client's not sweating.
So, where am I?
And yeah, it absolutely is.
And did it happen to you prior to the lights being on?
Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so it's definitely not the lights.
Yeah.
Definitely, it's not the lights.
Do we all have a level of this in us?
Yes.
And if we do, how do we begin to reveal more of it to ourselves?
Yeah.
So I love the word intuition because it breaks down to inner tuition or inner knowledge.
We don't really think about the origins of that word,
but it's a beautiful thing because it is an inner compass that I believe we all possess,
just some degree or another. Our ability to trust it, I think, is where we can see variations
in accuracy. Some people are very staunch in what they believe and what they think,
and are what we call thick, boundary people. And that can be very difficult for those types of
people to kind of integrate intuitive experiences. You have people who are more thin they think and are what we call thick, boundaries people. And that can be very difficult for those types of people
to kind of integrate intuitive experiences.
You have people who are more thin,
boundaries people, people who are more go with the flow
and kind of live life by the sea of their pants.
And those people often have more intuitive experiences.
So part of it is allowing it.
There is some really interesting research
into thick and thin, boundary people
with an anthropology that I think relates to psychic abilities.
Okay, I'm going to confess something because I've wanted to talk about this with you.
And it's a little bit of a risk for me, but I'm going to do it anyway. I'm a Christian.
But I've had some senses of I can't explain it. I'm not sure what it is, but what I would best be able to define is maybe a past life or a regression, or that I've been here previously. I'll see something
from a previous time in a movie and it'll make me more emotional that I can possibly
describe that seems to have no point of reference to me in this experience here. I feel guilty when I have them,
because it doesn't necessarily coincide.
I've shared this with friends of mine
that are devout in whatever their faith is.
I've got great friends that have every faith.
And I said, this is something that I meet somebody
sometimes like in your case,
the word I would use is this is an old soul,
in a young person's body. I feel like
I'm a bit of an old soul, but what does that really mean? And so I worked through this. It's not
caused me to doubt my faith in any way. It's caused me to wonder if that's part of my faith that's
just not been explained or that I misunderstand it or that it you know what I'm saying. So I'm
just curious, we're all working
through. Our faith is a relationship with this next place or in my case, Jesus a higher
power in your life, whatever it is. It's a relationship. And I really feel like these things can
ebb and flow through life. There's certain experiences like, God, what are you doing to
me right now? Why would you let this happen? And that doubt and those questions can cause
it to strengthen. Do you have those doubts in your own viewpoints and do you believe possibly that there's been
a previous existence for your spirit or soul in a different body?
I would say on the subject of doubt, doubt is a beautiful thing. I think when faith is true,
it can be underscurdening. And I think that's the greatest value.
I think of true faith is being able to question it objectively and still believe it.
So do I.
So I actually made mine stronger in my case, but I'm curious with you.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I feel absolutely the same way.
No, it's huge.
It's.
Look at you really pondering that.
I love it.
Hey, the second part of your question though, because I'm curious more about the fear of the aspect of reincarnation, because I find that to be very fascinating. I think
there's a certain idea around reincarnation that people live and then they die and then they
reborn and then they live and they die. I think it's a little bit more complicated than that.
Okay. My belief is that we exist even before we're born. So that's a separate incarnation and then we're born.
And then this is our incarnation or physical one.
And even when we pass, I think if you think of it as if you exist outside your body, well
that's a different incarnation too.
So I don't just view incarnations as physical ones, right?
Actually, scripture tells us that we were made in the able to live like this in the Lord
and knew us before we were here.
There you go.
Right. So, and that's an incarnation. So, my belief is in a collective consciousness.
We're working through something. We are. I love it. I believe that we are all essentially
mirrors of one another. In essence, I believe we all are like single drops of water. And when we
pass, we realize we're a big ocean of consciousness interconnected to what I believe to be a higher power.
If not, that higher power.
And so I find that in these readings, I don't put too much weight on reincarnation because
I believe that, though there may be past lives or past incarnations of existence beyond
just this one, it's really more about right now than matters most.
It is.
I was with my dad when he took his last breath.
And have you ever had that experience?
Have you been with someone when they passed?
Not in the exact moment.
Okay.
So I was with my dad when it happened.
And after it happened, it was going to be, this is detailed, but there's about an hour
and a half window where it was just going to be until the hearst arrived.
We're in his home.
And I don't think my sisters or my mom are real comfortable
being in the room with them.
So I kind of was blessed with that time to be in the room
with them.
And I've wanted to ask you about this.
And I've asked several friends about it.
So I wanted to be in the room with them.
And about five minutes into that experience,
I realized I was not in the room with my dad anymore.
Yes. And so what was in the room with my dad anymore.
And so what was in that room was my dad's body, what was in that room was my dad's accumulations.
We were in his house, his car was in the driveway, but that wasn't my dad.
My dad's achievements were still surrounding him. That really wasn't my dad.
My dad's problems probably were still existing, but my dad wasn't his problems.
And so it dawned on to me in those moments, that's not who my dad is.
My dad's gone.
In this physical room.
And so who was he?
And it dawned on me.
My dad was a spirit and an energy and a life force.
And you can't take those things with you.
But you do leave something behind.
And what my dad left behind were the people in that next room.
Were my sisters and my mom and me.
And that spirit, to some sense, is another carnation, another reincarnation of it, is
in us and lives on.
And I've had this deep sense that he was gone that my dad does continue to live to other carnation, another reincarnation of it is in us and lives on.
And I've had this deep sense that he was gone, that my dad does continue to live in this
way through his children, through his contributions, through the difference he made, through the
energy and difference he made in other people's lives.
My father does continue to live, but my dad wasn't his body, his accumulations, his possessions,
his awards, his problems.
That's not who he was.
And there's deep sense in that moment.
And what an eye-opening experience to have is so often people, even in the hospice
realm, report very much getting a sense of as they see people transition.
The moment where you very much realize there's a life there and then it's just a vessel.
And it's incredible to have that realization,
but also speaks to the fact that I think we are all spirits,
all souls, with an ego.
In our ego, I define it as our beliefs around ourselves
and the world around us.
And so those beliefs often influence our achievements,
things we do that what motivates us in life,
but we realize we are so much more than our ego
that we are a soul, a soul that
made a difference. And it sounds like it was an incredible man.
You do. You write a lot about that ego in the book. Yes. And you have a very small one.
Oh, I think, you know what, I don't. I don't think so. I think the thing is, I think ego is something to not be destroyed.
I think ego is something to be enhanced with the self-awareness.
So we've talked about having a big ego as we think of like people being narcissistic or so-so-abright.
A little bit of a different version of ego here. I think if anything,
egos are the frameworks of how we respond to the world around us, how we process information,
what we integrate as belief,
what we reject as not true.
So all of those things inform our personalities
and how we navigate the world.
And they process that when they die.
When I say that, and by the way, I like that clarification,
yeah, there's a, there's a huge level of humility to you.
And to me, usually a great deal of humility and the way
that I define it is the lack of ego.
It's more spiritual.
It's more an openness to learn and experience and receive as opposed to a dogmatic viewpoint
of what you just said of, this is the world, this is what I believe, this is accurate.
You're, I'm right, you're wrong, whatever.
I'm left, you're right, I'm blue, you're red,
all that stuff that I just defines the world today.
And I see that with you and it causes me to be comfortable.
Do you think the reduction of that,
which I just described, opens up the space
for more intuition in somebody?
Absolutely, openness from a consciousness perspective,
I think creates an environment that's conducive to creativity
And I believe there's a direct relationship between creativity the subconscious and the psychic abilities and connections with love ones
So yeah, you write a lot in the book about mindfulness. Yes, so I want to unpack that a little bit
It's it's not new to me. No, but it's growing with me
Yeah, and I was I don't know. I was surprised that that's what you wrote about.
I'm, I, it helped connect dots for me to your work better.
Thank you.
But in that sense, talk a little bit, it's actually used the term flow state in the book.
So what is, what is your definition of mindfulness and how do you practice it?
Mm-hmm. For me, my, my definition of mindfulness is the ability to be present
or mindful of the present.
I think so often with the beeps and the buzzes of our phones or schedules,
we are constantly distracted, and I think now more than ever with TikTok and media,
we do our attention spans, about seven seconds before we scroll.
It's so true. That is created a huge problem for people who do want to be more intuitive.
The process of becoming more intuitive requires one to be able to have extended attention,
to be able to bring awareness to oneself versus the stream of consciousness around oneself.
So in essence, I kind of view myself as almost like a rock on a stream and my thoughts are
the stream, but I am the rock.
That's beautiful. So there you go. You try to be the observer of your thoughts and that is a huge
distance that you can create that I think allows for us to take a necessary beat to be mindful, to not be defined by our emotions and to know how to respond and not necessarily just react.
Does that mean that you are not your thoughts? Absolutely, you are not your thoughts.
This is huge, because I think most people, two things, they believe they are their thoughts,
and they also believe everything they think.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
And I have found to not believe everything I think.
Caps.
Because a lot of that is patterning.
It's imprinting that's been done in places when I was defenseless and I was younger.
Yeah, totally.
And my thoughts will lie to me.
And so I'm really interested in your opinion about that because I don't believe I'm my thoughts
and I actually don't believe a lot of the things that I think anymore at 52 years old.
Whereas at 30, I believe you thumbs up in me, you guys.
Yeah.
I believed almost everything I thought at 30 and I bought into every negative, fear-based,
anger-based thought I had.
I bought it immediately and that's when your thoughts begin to rule your life, sure.
So what do you see about that?
Yeah, no, it's definitely fascinating to see how when it comes to just the nature of habits, of patterns, how they very often can get us into structures and rigidity.
That sometimes can impede experiences outside of what we're expecting.
So to speak to that openness, it's just so important.
I think generally to be willing to be creative, to be open, to be present, and we can only
really notice those things when we are in a state to notice them.
You speak on that noticing thing, Something you do that's interesting.
I'm followed your social media content more lately.
You just post a lot of beautiful stuff.
Oh, thanks.
I like beauty.
I like beauty.
But it looks to me like you're looking for it, meaning like, yeah.
Maybe this seems simple to you because you do it,
but I don't think it is in this day and age where we're,
oh my gosh, what did Biden or Trump do today?
Or did I get enough likes on my social
or this problem I've got to stop and notice
the beautiful things around us,
the beautiful people, the beautiful things that are being,
the beautiful rocks.
Yes.
You, there's gotta be a reason why you're posting this
and showing it, because you could just post
a reading every single day of the week if you wanted to,
so, do you intentionally cause yourself to stop and notice the beautiful things in
your life because maybe at one point you didn't or you got too busy or you're trying to send that
message to people? You know, it's hard not to stop and smell the roses when you have so many
people come through who've passed, who I think on some level see the value of our ability to
stop and smell roses even
more than we could possibly realize.
They seem to value that more than we really even do.
So I don't want to say they envy us, but they almost seem to come through with a, oh,
if they only knew how lucky they are to be able to see a sunset, to watch a sunrise,
to smell a flower.
And that understanding, I have the chills, eyes given me a value in the simple things.
Absolutely.
It's one of my favorite things anyone's ever said on the show.
And one of the cool things is, is amazing how, like you talked about your dad, you know,
the small things, big and small material objects, things and accomplishments, achievements,
the little things become the big things
when people pass.
And I think it's a really beautiful sentiment,
the little moments.
You mean exactly.
I think of with my own grandmother,
I remember at the time I wish that I had
been a bigger part of her life.
I was only 10, but I remember she had given me
this piece of advice that I kind of blew off.
She said, Tyler, not everybody deserves to know you,
everything about you the first time they meet you.
And that was my grandma's way of trying to protect me
as a very oversharing little boy.
And at the time, I did not really put much weight into it,
but as I've grown older, as I now have lived
without her in my physical life,
those words ring in my mind sometimes,
words that didn't have much meaning back then.
A small thing became a big thing. And it took years for me to see that and it took her
passing for me to get there, but that made her life even more meaningful through her
death.
And boy, I have that.
As I've gotten older, I think about my grandparents too and they've been gone a long
time and I'm like, I wish I would have just sat and talked with Grammy more.
Yeah, ask about their childhood.
And I wish I would have asked about their early experiences,
their marriages when they were young and honored.
And you know, it's so...
Me too, I really do.
By the way, this is so good for,
I'm just so grateful that we're just having this discussion
of two friends that millions of people get to listen in on.
And maybe it just for today, you know,
changes their perspective. I want to ask you about today, you know, it changes their perspective.
I wanna ask you about grief.
You write about it in the book.
Yeah.
I said to this family yesterday,
I say, one of the things about grief is,
and it's not my saying, so I don't take credit for it,
but grief is an indicator that love is greater than death.
Yes.
And, but there are people that, boy,
that grief is lasting a long time.
And it is, maybe their distraction,
if we wanna call it that,
isn't social media likes or Netflix or that,
but they're just consumed with this grief
of they could be grieving someone's passing,
they could be grieving the end of a relationship
with someone who's still alive,
they could be grieving a previous time in their life
that they wanna go back to somehow and they're constantly comparing this time in their life to a previous time in their life that they want to go back to somehow,
and they're constantly comparing this time in their life to a previous time in their life,
and that causes them to grieve, sure, to some extent. And let's just be honest, on the spinning
earth right now, you may possibly be the all-time grief expert. So what would you say to people that
are just struggling with some form of that grief? I think viewing grief as a work in progress is very important. When I started this work
I used to think of grief as something that had to be resolved, something that could have closure.
And the older I've gotten the more I've
Not resonated with the phrase closure because I think grief is a lifelong relationship.
I like in grief to a comma more than a period.
It's ongoing.
And I love that you talked about grief in its many facets.
There is the loss of a level, but there's also loss of relationships,
losses of jobs, losses of pets.
And that alone is something almost weight that we have to carry.
And some people carry it differently.
I think there's something to be said about different people having different,
or varying degrees of pain tolerance.
And it's true physically, but it's also true emotionally.
And there are some people who can navigate grief
and be extremely resilient.
I've had clients who've lost children
some more than one child,
and have gone on to seemingly live fulfilling lives
and create meaning through that grief.
And then there are others who are just seemingly stuck.
And it's why I put such an emphasis on grief counseling, brain health awareness.
Community grief is a deeply isolating emotion.
And I think knowing that there are others who can relate, can sometimes at the very least
say she that loneliness.
There's something I see in you that I really admire and it's not the stuff that I have
noticed through your work.
It's actually being in your presence.
You, uh, your emotions are right on the right here.
You, they're, you're, uh, the edge is the wrong word, but they're right on the
surface ready to be revealed at any given time and
I love that. I think that's a beautiful thing because that's the richness of life the giving ourselves the gift of the depth of an emotion the dimension of the emotion
I
See that in you or in your you can cry on a dime
You can laugh on a dime. You can feel on a dime
So and I think maybe it's just something for you to think about it, so. And I think, maybe it's just something for you
to think about even when you leave here.
But it's very prevalent with you.
And as it become an older man,
I've allowed that to move to the forefront for me.
I think I was taught as a young person,
and I don't think this is gender specific at all.
To almost suppress, don't cry, don't cry.
Little boys and little girls, especially little boys, but little boys and little girls are told that all the time, don't cry. Don't cry. Little boys and little girls, especially little boys,
but little boys and little girls
are told that all the time.
Don't cry.
Don't.
And the more I've allowed myself to feel those emotions,
the joyous cry and the sad cry,
I found that the other ones are magnified.
Oh, yes.
You become more of a well-rounded individual
when you allow yourself to feel.
Do you set something to you know about yourself?
Is that have you always been this way or is that something you're allowing? I feel like it's a gift to feel. Do you know about yourself? Have you always been this way
or is that something you're allowing?
I feel like it's a gift to feel things.
Yeah, it definitely has been a work in progress.
I mean, I'm 27 now and I was a silly teenager
and a silly kid in his early 20s and made mistakes
and just like everybody else,
but it certainly has given me that awareness
and that perspective, which I think has been valid.
So I've been reading a lot about birth trauma
so
that there's some work now that says when
The birth process is traumatic the potentially maybe that has an impact on the infant and the child and their personality or fears or
anxieties
When they're young and maybe throughout their life
There's some work that's been done about
when they're in their mother's womb,
the mother's emotions impacting the child, right?
And if the mother was going through a stressful,
traumatic time, that potentially those emotions
are imprinted into the child,
I actually really believe that.
There's a lot of emotional imprinting
that we get once we're out of our mother's womb
as a child, but I think there can be some in the womb as well.
I'm wondering about the other side of it.
When someone passes in a more traumatic or dramatic way, do you sense a difference in their spirit
or energy or soul on the other side than when someone has passed, say, peacefully?
Sure.
So, it definitely, I find, has had a lot to do with intention.
I've had people come through who passed away
in car extences or tragically, I don't know,
where at an early age, and they come through
hunky-dory, completely fine.
They, I mean, acknowledge self-awareness
that they went through process.
Yeah, yada.
Then I've other times fed people who've passed
of cancer and knew they were gonna die for eight months.
Their family was around them and they come through and sometimes they are
the ones who actually have a little bit more of an awareness of that they didn't say
what they needed to say and maybe weren't very nice or very friendly.
So it's, I think, less of what gets us over there, it's more about our intention as we
are transitioning and also the life we lived before we passed.
How do you mean the life they lived before,
meaning if they lived a well-lived life
and the people well?
That's the thing, I think a well-lived life
cannot be harmed by death.
And it was a sentiment I expressed in my first book,
but I think there's just something to be said about,
some people live a full life in 20 years
and others lived to be 90 and didn't really ever live at all.
So as far as how that's reflected in readings,
it's worth so much more
than how we pass. Wow, it's more important how we lived. Absolutely. Okay, okay, you got me right
there. Energy, what does the energy feel like when someone wants to come through for you? Say
you had read me today and I was expecting my dad to come to because I've watched this with you.
I was expecting my dad to come through and you're like,
I'm feeling like it's an older female figure.
Let's just assume that.
Is this like a, is there a knocking on your energy level?
Like what are you feeling?
Cause the reason I ask it isn't so much that I want,
you know, to be able to do reading
because I'm not gonna be able to do that probably.
But I wanna know, how do I feel feel my intuition's knocking compared to fear knocking?
Sure.
So should I do this?
Should I give this speech or start this business?
And I'm like, is this my fear knocking or is this my intuition knocking to some extent?
Absolutely.
So I'm wondering what it feels like.
It's an age old question of how do we discern between intuition and fear, right?
And trauma and intuition.
Hyper-vigilance is often a big problem for people
and they often conflate hyper-vigilance
with intuition.
If we've been traumatized in the same way over and over again
and we're inclined to kind of see that potential trauma
in future situations and that can be a big problem.
So I would say discernment is really essential,
but the more we can develop or inner worlds,
the more we have an awareness of our fears, our traumas, you know, kind of the more maybe the shadow as they call it. I think it's a very
valuable thing because it gives us insight to when intuition actually does rise to the surface.
Very often, and I have to be careful about generalities because intuition speaks differently to
different people, but I find for me, you know, when I do a reading, I'll get a welling and it'll kind
of just like feel like it's at my core. It comes up by
scribble. I do a reading. But for the average person, one thing to look out for is
things that come through repeatedly without much emotion. So we kind of have
this miss identification of intuition as being a gut feeling while it can
manifest as a feeling very often, particularly in men,
it'll come through as just kind of a repeated inclination like, why am I thinking this?
I can't get this out of my head.
Maybe you might not be scared, might not be excited, might not really have a feeling,
but it's a repeated kind of nudge.
And that for me is, I think, sometimes a signifier.
But knowing your trauma is the most important thing, and if you find that intuitions coming
through around something related to trauma,
I'm more inclined to think it's trauma than intuition.
Got you.
Speaking of trauma, you're 18, you have brain surgery.
Yeah.
And I don't know a lot of people probably know that about you,
right, but just then had brain surgery.
And then during COVID, as I understand it,
you had another pretty close call
where you had a lung collapse.
Claps, yes, right?
Before the pandemic broke out, I was dealing with a respiratory failure and a bunch of complications
and it was really a eight month recovery period as the world was in lockdown.
What did that make you feel?
You're staring at this potential body not functioning anymore thing that happened to
my dad, just as it happened in his 70s. What was, curious what your experience was with that?
Catholic.
Catholic.
Yes.
Of all the words you would use.
Reflective.
I felt like I was almost kind of doing my little life review
before I'd even transitioned.
I found myself sitting there on the hospital bed thinking,
particularly with the brain surgery when I was 18.
You know, if I live, if I survive this, I survive this, I can't waste time doing things that
I know aren't right from me. If I can get out of this hospital bed, I know that I'm
going to live in a way where I realize time is of the essence because this brain cyst
I have, I still have it. It's in my brain and it's something that currently?
Currently? Currently. It was not able to be removed fully. So it came back and has grown and increased in size,
and I may deal with another brain surgery in my lifetime.
I may deal with several,
but to have almost what feels like a ticking time bomb inside you,
I don't mean to laugh, but in essence what it is,
it just makes it immensely clear
that we have to appreciate every day, every day.
Because while I know that I could die at any moment,
a lot of people don't.
Right, so you had any, I'm just curious, random.
Not in any of my notes, just hit me,
be the brain.
If you had any research or looked into the pineal gland at all.
Oh yeah, so there's a couple different areas
that various scientists are looking at.
Dr. Gary Nolan out of Stanford
is looking into two parts of the brain, separate from the pineal gland that he thinks could relate the caughtement and the putamen which quite a word
But that's a Google both. Yeah caught it putamen
Those two areas in his research have I've found to kind of indicate some abnormalities in in the brain on certain people and
Want to speak on his behalf but believes that genetics could perhaps be a component.
What about you?
What about, you said yes on the Pneoglade.
I've just done some research about that.
That says there may be some intuitive property to that part of us.
Well, it does regulate aspects of sleep as far as I understand.
Yes, that's right.
And if we talk about the sleep, the study and the abnormalities with Dr. Drew, there's
a very clearly a connection.
A very brainwind of a sleep state.
Pneoglade relates to regulation of sleep states. So there's clearly a relationship. My brain went into a sleep state. Penial gland relates to regulation of sleep states.
So there's clearly a relationship.
You believe there are signs in life?
I do.
I believe in meaningful coincidences.
I don't believe everything's a sign.
I don't believe every coincidence is a sign.
If you're looking too much for a sign
or you get in a little odd, you know what I mean?
It impedes it, absolutely.
If everything's a sign, then nothing's a sign.
Wow.
Wow. Wow.
So, and I tell people when it comes to signs, you know, we all want to sign, right?
But the way to tell it something is, even if you don't understand what the signs are trying
to tell you, is the instance generally will be a meaningful coincidence, but it has to
be meaningful.
It'll leave oak, whatever's happening, a feeling inside that's uncanny.
And you may not understand what that feeling is, but you'll feel it well to the surface.
And you might find yourself thinking,
could that be a love one?
And you might rationalize it, disregard it, whatever,
but those are oftentimes the indicators.
There's something more.
Mine are really small.
I never had the need, I just tell you,
I didn't, my dad passed it, wasn't he,
he's like, hey, knock on the door from the other side,
I need to know. I didn't have any of that. I've not ever, I haven't, my dad passed it wasn't like, he's like, hey, knock on the door from the other side, I need to know.
I didn't have any of that.
I've not ever, I haven't had,
I'll just share this with my audience
because they all know my lives really well
and I just, you can hear it too.
But, so I, I haven't had any need for that.
I did have an experience like about four or five months ago
and I was, I was awake.
And it was just very, it was a quick flash.
It wasn't some long drawn out dream.
Just want to know if you could help explain this to me or if this makes any sense to you.
This is what happened.
And I'm not daily looking for a sign from my dad.
I'm a deep believer in my faith and I'm very comfortable with where I think my dad is.
But anyway, it's the middle of the day, Tyler.
I'd gotten out of my car, I walked into my house, I got into my office, I was about to
do some work, and I looked at my computer screen and I hadn't had anything to drink.
I don't take substances, so it wasn't one of those things.
With my eyes open, though, I saw this person just walking towards me very slowly.
And my dad had a particular walk, you know, you just know your dad's walk, right?
Yeah. Yeah. And he got closer and pretty close.
And then I could make out who it was. And it was my dad.
And all he did, Todd, he got his hand on one of his hips and he just, he just, just waived.
He was just a waive.
Yes.
And then my dad was a gentle, just a quiet soul.
Yeah.
And then he just, kind of like my dad would wa, when he'd come
to a game of mine or something, just, you know,
and then he just turned around and walked away into the distance again.
But it was almost just like, like, hey kid kid, I'm, I'm, I'm here.
I'm here. It was a deep, I mean, I wept. I've never said this out loud. I don't even think I've told my family what I just told you.
Because it just seemed so
nonsensical to me in the moment yet completely and totally real for me.
Absolutely.
Am I crazy?
No.
You know, I tell people all the time.
There's a famous theologian by the name of James,
oh shoot, William James, I think it's his name.
Okay.
My God, it's named wrong, but he famous theologian
that basically in the early 1900s
defined four qualities of a mystical experience.
Ineffability, meaning mystical experiences
are usually beyond words. Noetic, meaning the mystical experience. Ineffability, meaning mystical experiences are usually beyond words.
Noetic, meaning the mystical experience usually sends one on a path of self-discovery, understanding.
Passive, meaning usually the mystical experience is immersive, so we can't really focus
anything else other than the guy walking towards you. But what's most interesting is the fourth
quality is transient. Meaning, mystical experiences are very fast.
They don't usually last for a very long time.
And I think all of your way you've described
kind of takes every box, right?
You did describe it, but I can guarantee
you can't convey the feeling.
You can't get it, right?
It was transient.
Well, it's sent you down a lifelong path
and knowledge and was completely immersive.
So, absolutely.
Very, very, very, very real to me.
Yes.
Very real. I just wanted to share that with everybody.
I've never said that out loud.
Wow.
Ever.
So you've had this run on this planet.
That's a little bit different than most people's.
Yes.
Right?
And it's, what a blessing.
At the same time, there's a bit of a burden
that probably comes with it as well,
being you, which I asked you about earlier.
But based on all of this, you've been able to download.
Have you come up with any daily practices that give you comfort, that increase your intuition,
that allow you to deal with the anxiety or stress that comes with you?
In other words, Tyler Henry have some daily practices, including mindfulness,
whatever it might be, that makes his life richer and better. Sure. So to answer your question,
I think it's good to understand as a medium, and I believe all spiritual work in general is what I
call very antistructural. It's kind of creative, airy fairy, you know, kind of a very, very much fluid and inline with like creativity
in this objective, right? When I'm not in that state, it's important that I do things to implement
structure to kind of act as an antithesis to the anti-structure that I deal with the work.
It's the way that I implement structure is through ritual or routine. Now, for me, that's prayer,
but that's also waking up at a certain time of day.
Typically brushing my teeth in a certain order, I'm a little OCD.
And I know it sounds kind of funny, but by doing certain things, even eating the same foods,
I'm able to create a certain degree of structure reliability, certainty, that allows me to
kind of when things are uncertain, be able to exist in that space with the knowingness
that I'm gonna come home and have these routines
and structures that allow first-off place to fall,
that allow me to reinvigorate and fill a sense of stability.
Wow.
So we all can do that, right?
We all can have rituals, routines,
they don't necessarily have to be spiritual,
but prayer is a beautiful ritual.
That can kind of help us have deeper introspection. I'm so grateful you said that. That's big in my space in the
self-help world, but it's not necessarily something I thought that you were
going to say. It's really, really grateful to hear that. Absolutely. The concept of
thoughts and prayers gets a bad rap because people are like, oh, not some
prayers, but thoughts and prayers have a lot more value than I think people give
credit for. They have the most value to me, especially prayers.
Yes.
So, all right, last question for you.
First off, I've enjoyed this thoroughly.
One thing Tyler is not sure of is demand for his services.
So, what I'm about to, he's about to tell you some of the things he's got going on.
I want you to be able to do that.
But let me be really honest with you guys.
I know, literally, in my friend's circle,
probably 80 people who are just,
they would love to get a reading from you.
They would love to be in your presence.
You know this, right?
And by the way, you've read many of my friends.
A texted Nikki Glazer yesterday, too, right?
I'm like, I'm like, hey, what's the school?
You know, I kind of do that stuff.
Love that.
But you've got some stuff coming up
and want to make sure people know about it.
So one is they should get your book.
Number one, they should be following you on social media.
But you've also got something you've got
in at the Groven Anaheim coming up
and some other things we should let them know.
Depending on when they listen to this,
they can be listened to this in 2025, still.
Absolutely.
Let's give them that.
Yeah, so I do tour the country, I do group readings.
And it's really a fun time.
You get to see the process live and in person.
I'm going to be in November going to both Minnesota and Anaheim.
And in early December, I will be in Anaheim as well.
So Farah, we're going to go to figure that out.
They go to your website or they go to social.
The TylerHenryMediaM.com is the best way
to get tortates.
I don't usually refer to myself in third person,
so don't worry, it's kind of weird.
But the domain was taken of TylerHenryMedia,
my aunt.
But that's going to be the best way.
I also have a service called the Collective
where I meet with people virtually
and we meet twice a month for group readings.
I do virtual group giveaways
and I'm able to connect with people all across the world
from the comfort of their own bedroom
and the tune in where they're pajamas and get readings.
You're totally beautiful soul.
Oh, thank you so much.
Last question, yes.
Unfair to ask you it, because it's not,
no human being should be required to answer this question,
but I just want your perspective on it.
Someone runs into you at a Starbucks and says,
you don't have to read me.
But you've obviously downloaded this divine wisdom
that you've been gifted to be able to tap into in a way
that not everybody has been fortunate enough
to uncover that gift yet that they may have within them.
Yes.
The meaning of life is to live fully.
To live fully.
To live fully.
The fullest expression of yourself as well, right?
Absolutely, and that means doing the inner work and the outer work.
We did a lot of that today.
We really did.
I feel like we covered some beautiful territory.
I hope this encourages people to think deeper to maybe consider
Ideas that they hadn't before and to never stop trying to be more of yourself.
Yeah, you're an important person in this world and I pray for you because I
Know what it's like in my little small way to
Want to make a difference in people's lives and the gift and blessing that comes with that. I also know to some extent, I can tell you that I understand the pressure and the burden that
comes with that as well and wanting to live up to everybody's expectations. And I rely on those
habits and rituals and routines, particularly prayer to give myself the same peace that allows me
to give the gift and any of you listening to this today.
Just reflect on some of the things that we've covered.
And there's something we covered today for each of you that applies to you.
Not everything we covered today applies to all of you, but something we covered applies to you.
And that's why your work is just so beautiful and remarkable.
And thank you for giving us all, just maybe a little bit of comfort into what this life means
and what it'll mean when our bodies no longer
are the vessel that we're utilizing for our spirits here.
So thank you.
Thank you.
It's been amazing conversation.
It's really absolutely thankful.
I can't wait to do it again.
Yeah, me too.
I really can't wait to do it.
I'm probably gonna get in line
and do one of these readings too.
We're gonna probably have to do that.
So I love that.
I would love that.
Everybody, God bless you.
You know what, I don't have to say this today.
Share the episode, but I think you probably't have to say this today share the episode
But I think you probably already have at some point in the interview you press the share button
And and I'm grateful that you all do that. So fast is growing show on the planet because you guys share it and
Because I get these incredible people that for whatever reason will to sit a few feet across from me and share their
Insights routines tactic strategies and in today's case with Tyler,
their wisdom and their heart with you.
Thank you everybody, God bless you.
This is the Aton Milach, shall.
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