THE ED MYLETT SHOW - Love Your Brain with Dr. Daniel Amen

Episode Date: March 3, 2020

Ending the stigma and idea of Mental Illness and cutting edge strategies for a healthy brain! Mental health can be a touchy subject for all of us. Whether you are enduring it personally, watching a lo...ved one go through it, or are struggling to understand it at all, it is a subject that has affected millions of lives directly and indirectly. Because of its impact and the general lack of understanding surrounding this topic, I brought in the BEST of the BEST to answer your burning questions and to provide clarity to the issues that have been circling in your mind. I am excited to bring you the brilliant mind of my friend Dr. Daniel Amen, a world-renowned leader in mental health and well-being. He is America’s #1 psychologist, a five-time New York Times best-selling author, and treats some of the most successful people in the world. Dr. Amen is attempting to end the idea of “mental illness” right before our eyes… As mega-achievers, our drive for perfection can lead us to feeling depressed, anxious, or extremely stressed. We become overwhelmed. We aren't able to see how our current circumstance is working FOR us and not against us and leads us to believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with US... but this isn't the case! Dr. Amen shares with you cutting edge strategies, and nutritional concepts that can change your entire life. He blew me away with his proven techniques that teach us how to have a healthier brain and is now revealing them to you. He confirms that our thoughts don’t cause us to suffer, our attachment to our thoughts does. His concept of ANTS is groundbreaking and I can’t wait for you to learn about it! You'll learn concrete ways to optimize brain health and treat the 11 major risk factors that steal your mind. We talk about the severity of concussions, circulation, inflammation, and easy, actionable ways you can start feeling better TODAY. I asked specific questions about prescription medication, marijuana, hallucinogens, and natural remedies so that you have ALL of the information to serve you and your loved ones best. Whether you struggle with mental health, know someone who is or you feel like you just can’t find a way to wrap your mind around it…..this interview is going to give you the ANSWERS you have been searching for. Get your brain right, and your MIND will FOLLOW!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Edmmerwood Show. Welcome back to Max Out Everybody. You know, I pride myself on having the world's best on the show in a variety of different areas of topic. And today's topic, which is going to be mental health, brain health, I have America's number one psychiatrist with me. I have a man next to me who's done 170,000 brain scans on people from 120 countries and is a world-renowned leader
Starting point is 00:00:37 in mental health and mental well-being. And he helps people's lives get better by helping their brains get better. And he's helped me in that area as well. And we're going to talk about that today. So this is Dr. Daniel Aiman. Thank you my friend. And thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:51 So good to have you. He's got a new book out everybody that's coming out called the End of Mental Illness that you can either preorder right now or of it you can order if you've watched this interview after the release date. So the End of Mental Illness.com, they can get access to it or Amazon or anywhere else. End of mental illness.com or anywhere, great books are sold. Anywhere they're sold and you're going to want to get your hands on this. We're going to tap into it a little bit today but I want you to read the book so we're not
Starting point is 00:01:14 going to get into all of it. But the term mental illness, that term, you don't like that so much. I hate it. And why is that? Well, I hated it for 40 years. I decided to be a psychiatrist 40 years ago because someone I loved tried to kill herself and I took her to see a wonderful psychiatrist and I came to realize if he helped her, it wouldn't just help her. That ultimately
Starting point is 00:01:36 it would help me. It would help her children, even her grandchildren. I fell in love with psychiatry because I realize it has the potential to change generations of people. But I hated that term because it's shaming, it's stigmatizing, and it's wrong because these aren't mental illnesses, they're brain health issues that steal your mind. And that one distinction just changes everything because people see their problems as medical and not moral. So it decreases shame and guilt. It increases compliance because people want better brains. Nobody wants
Starting point is 00:02:17 a mental illness. Everybody wants a better brain. And it also increases forgiveness and compassion from their families. No one is shamed for heart disease or cancer or diabetes, even though all of those have lifestyle contributions to them. Likewise, no one should be shamed for bipolar disorder, ADHD, depression, panic disorder, get your brain right and your mind will follow. You know, you would get your heart treated. You would get a broken leg treated, but that shame factor causes people not to get help
Starting point is 00:02:54 often times, and then that situation can exacerbate itself. Let's talk about some basic things first, and then we'll get a little bit more detailed, because I know everybody right now that was driving, a lot of them are pulling over and are getting their notepads out, because now they know the topic and they know who's on the show this week and I'm curious are those of you that are watching on YouTube you do the same thing. Let's start with something very basic which is your approach overall that's just a standard approach and tell them what the four circles are.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Would you would you discuss that for a second? So when I was in medical school our dean I went to a Christian medical school or a Roberts University and the first week the Dean comes in and he says never think of your patience as their diagnosis. Always think of them in these four big circles and on the board he wrote biology in the first circle. So it's the actual physical functioning of your brain and your body. And then he wrote, psychology with the next circle. And this is your mind and how your mind works. And I also think it's your development, it's your successes, it's your failures, it's your relationships,
Starting point is 00:04:00 your dad and the past that still breathes fire on the present. And then the third circle is the social circle. So, what do you hang out with? You become like the people you spend time with. You know that. Absolutely. And then the fourth circle is the spiritual circle, which is, well, why the heck do you care?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Why are you on the planet? Right. What is your deepest sense of meaning and purpose? And so often people go see a psychiatrist and they tell them their symptoms on depressed and then they'll give you a diagnosis with the same name, oh, your depressed, and then they'll give you an anti-depressant, completely ignoring the other three circles. And I'm known for our brain imaging work and people really sort of peg me in the biology circle, but we can never forget you have a mind and so many people's minds are undisciplined. You and I talked about the ants, the
Starting point is 00:04:57 automatic negative thoughts that steal your happiness. Tell them this because you've helped me with this so much. And this concept of ants that you just described has helped me so much because I think I was sort of the king of a little bit of this the wrong way, even though I'd produced all these results in my life, the jets and the houses and the great family and all those things. But I kept, why do I not feel better? Why is it that everything isn't perfect all the time? I found out through you it's not supposed to be perfect all the time. But this ants concept is, I want everyone in the world to hear it. So please share
Starting point is 00:05:28 So you you have such a strong spiritual circle and such a strong social circle But your brain wasn't as healthy as it could have been my brain, right and Your mind a bit Undisciplined so many of us, because they don't teach us this. So many years ago, I had a really hard day at work. I saw four suicidal patients, and that's stressful. I saw two couples who hated each other and two teenagers who ran away from home.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I came home, and I was stressed, and nobody was home, except I had thousands of ants in my house. It was an ant infestation in the kitchen. And as I'm cleaning them up, when you're a medical student, you have to learn 50,000 new terms, the first year. And so we're always making up acronyms and mnemonics, is way to remember things.
Starting point is 00:06:21 As I'm cleaning up the ants, I think to myself, automatic negative thoughts, the thoughts that come into your mind automatically and ruin your day. And I went, my patients are infested with ants. And so I came to work the next day with a can of raid, you know, ant and roach killer. And I just put it on the coffee table. I'm saying we're going to kill these ants today and then later it morphed into I got an ant puppet and an ant theater puppet because it's less toxic but you don't have to believe every stupid thing you think
Starting point is 00:06:58 and that is such a powerful concept so we'll talk a lot about tiny habits, smallest thing I can do today that will make the biggest difference whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or out of control. Write down what you're thinking. And there are eight different types of ants, all are nothing thinking, blaming ants, guilt beating ants, fortune telling ants, identify it and then start talking back to it. Right? I mean, I don't know if you were good at talking back to your parents when you were a
Starting point is 00:07:32 teenager, I was excellent. So is I. I have to be very good at the live here. But I was not any good at talking back to myself. And whenever you have a thought, unless you question it, you believe it. And even if it's a lie, you act as if it's true and they can devastate your life. They can steal your happiness, your joy. Everybody this is, you know, personally everyone, there's a big issue for me.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And when you said that to me, you know, you don't have to believe everything you think. I'm a 48 year old man. I've coached some of the top people on planet Earth. Some of us coach, Dr. Aiman, I have coached some of the same people, right? And I thought, the hell has anybody said that to me before? And that it starts to lose its power over you.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I've done, because he's asked me to do it guys over the, and recently I've been doing more of it. Writing down what I'm feeling, what I'm thinking when I do those thoughts questioning those thoughts And I found I have a lot of BS thoughts. I have a lot of thoughts that aren't true And the more I realize that the more I'm cognizant of it to your point I've it's lost some of its power over me and in some cases is Entirely lost its power over me. Is there a daily habit or one small thing you would recommend for people going? Oh my gosh, I got a lot of ants. Other than just being aware and writing it
Starting point is 00:08:48 down, anything else you would recommend. Whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or out of control, write down what you're thinking. And then there are five questions I have people ask themselves. Is it true? So I like to give the example I've had this thought, my wife never listens to me. My wife has 80 days. We did a whole show on 80 days together, and she can get distracted easily. And so I had that thought, my wife never listens to me. Question number one, is it true?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well no, actually it's not true. I've written 14 public television specials. She's listened to each script at least three times. No, it's not true. The second question is it absolutely true, with a hundred percent certainty. And if one is now two is automatically now. The third question, how do you feel
Starting point is 00:09:37 when you believe the thought, Tanen never listens to me, I feel sad, I feel lonely, I feel irritated. I'll actually give myself permission to be rude to her. So even though it's not true, it drives loneliness and I give myself the permission to sort of be a jerk to her. The fourth question is how would I feel without the thought? If I couldn't have the thought, well, I'd be a good husband. And then the fifth question is, take the original thought, my wife never listens to me, and turn it to the opposite. My wife does listen to me. Don't do the narcissistic opposite. She always listens to me, because that in true and and this is not
Starting point is 00:10:25 pie in the sky happy thinking it's because I'm not a fan of positive thinking I'm a fan of accurate thinking because positive thinking is I could have the third piece of cheesecake at lunch and it won't hurt me. No, let's let's tell ourselves the truth. Right. That don't worry be happy people die the earliest from accidents and preventable illnesses. No way really. So let's not go there. Okay. But the opposite is Tana does listen to me and I can come up with a hundred examples where she listens to me. And so that thought has no power over me. The thoughts of lie, I don't need to attach it. It's not the thoughts you have that cause you to suffer. It's the thoughts you attach to that cause you to suffer.
Starting point is 00:11:17 That's brilliant. And I practice it in my own life and everybody. This is this is why I want you involved with Dr. Amin's work on whatever level it is. If you go to scan, or if you get one of his books, whatever you do, is that there's strategies to brain health, there's strategies to mental health. And someone like me who's performed at a high level or teaches other people how to be happier, even I are trying to find nuances. These five steps have really, really supported and helped me. And I'm so grateful for you for that. Let's talk a little bit about, I want to only touch in a few things in the book because I want them to get the book. But I want them to have some idea of this bright minds concept too, but just a few things
Starting point is 00:11:51 that, guys like in my scan, for example, when we looked at it, I want to touch on a few things that impact the brain, that people listening or watching this may not be aware of. And one for me was circulation. So can you talk about that? That's one of the markers that you look at. I want you to get the book to hear all the markers, everybody. But this concept of circulation, why is it important and are there things we can do listening to this, watching this right now that could improve that automatically for somebody? So long time ago, I realized how the imaging work I do is just so important because it just took
Starting point is 00:12:25 mental illness, put it to the side and went brain health. So how do you optimize brain health? You have to prevent or treat the 11 major risk factors that steal your mind and the mnemonic bright minds that just helps us remember them. And the B in bright minds is for blood flow. Low blood flow is the number one brain imaging predictor of Alzheimer's disease. It's also associated with depression, ADHD, and schizophrenia.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's clearly not a good D. So what? Blood brings nutrients to the brain. And the brain is the most hungry organ in your body. So I love where you live. I just love where you live. And I want you to think of the brain. It's sort of like a great place to live.
Starting point is 00:13:18 It's like Beverly Hills or Newport Beach or Laguna Beach. Two percent of your body's weight, yet it uses 20 to 30% of the calories you consume, 20% of the oxygen, and 20% of the blood flow. And anything that lowers blood flow to the brain prematurely ages the brain. And, and, and, spec, the study we do is this stuff looks a blood flow and activity. And, you're, you had a sleepy brain, and that's not good for it. And so, if you go, I have all of this, but I sort of feel down sometimes. It's because it's not getting enough energy, which is not your fault.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And so, with all of these risk factors, so know it, avoid things that hurt it, and do things that help it. So I'm the master at, how do we make this as simple as can be? So the things that hurt blood flow, nicotine, caffeine, was it me? Not exercises, so that's not your issue, but people who are sedentary, lowers blood flow,
Starting point is 00:14:28 hypertension. As blood pressure goes up, blood flow to the brain goes down. Any form of heart disease or vascular disease is bad for the brain. And erectile dysfunction, people don't think about it. How is that related to the brain. And erectile dysfunction, people don't think about how it's unrelated to the brain. Well, if you have blood flow problems anywhere, it likely means they're everywhere. And so what do I do?
Starting point is 00:14:56 So one, get rid of caffeine, nicotine, get your blood pressure healthy. Do what the doctor says about your heart, for sure, and then exercise supplements like ginko, I'm a huge fan of ginko. Foods like beets, oregano, cayenne, pepper, rosemary, all-increase blood flow. My favorite form of exercise, coordination exercise. People who play racquet sports live longer than everyone else. Is that why you play racquet sports? That's why I play racquet sports.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Plus, I love table tennis. Right. And I'm good at it. So I'd like to do things I'm good at. People who played football and soccer, they live less long than everyone else. Swimmers was good. Right, I was sort of in the middle. Coordination because it works your cerebellum in the back bottom part of the
Starting point is 00:15:51 brain which I think of like the CPU, the central process in unit, gets your cerebellum healthy. The rest of your brain is healthy. Hey everybody, you're welcome so far by the way. I know you're all going wow right and first thing that this why I want to cover this topic too in the detail we're doing it is, every time we go through one of these steps, I'm only going to cover two or three of them today, it should be an indicator for all of you who are suffering with any brain health issues or knows somebody who is, that that is what this is.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's not a mental illness necessarily, it's brain health. There's ways that you can improve the health of your brain. You referenced soccer and football as not being quite as healthy and the other thing Dr. Amin has done is he's done the first and largest ever study on the brain scans of NFL football players. And you know, one of the things that you asked me immediately is if you had any significant concussions in your life. And oftentimes I was reading in the book that sometimes bipolar can be misdiagnosed when
Starting point is 00:16:46 someone's had a significant concussion in their life. And there are probably people if you went back to your child and if you have fallen off a bike, you've got to hit in a football game. You know, even as an adult, a car accident or something like that, if you had a concussion, that can affect your brain health. Correct. So the rest of your life, if nobody knows it and takes care of it. There's a brand new study out on homelessness. 50% of the homeless people had a significant brain injury
Starting point is 00:17:12 before they were homeless. If we don't put the brain in the center of the homelessness epidemic, we lose. And because a lot of my friends are going, oh, that's a big mental illness. And it's like, oh great, let's put them on more psychiatric drugs without giving them good food, looking at their brains, teaching them,
Starting point is 00:17:33 how to optimize the physical functioning. We're going to get more of what we have, which is a nightmare. Okay, so everybody, evaluate that for yourself or people that you know. And everyone, I want to go back to the book. And I'm not a big book pusher, typically, on the show. But I have to tell you, this topic is central to the happiness of everybody's life around you and including yourself.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And if you can get in to see us, get a scan at one of his many claims, you get some of you may not be able to go there, do that, afford that. A book like this can answer so many of your questions in one book for a nominal fee you could learn so much about yourself and the people around you that you love. I got to tell you, go get the end of mental illness, everybody. Please go get it for your well-being.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's been a game changer for me as well. A couple other little areas on the brain I want to talk about. Can we talk a little bit? By the way, guys, my brain, when we looked at it, you know, pretty functional person, when we looked at it, there was some, you can see visually in these scans. My goodness, like mine had the holes in it and the spotty stuff and you can see it wasn't as smooth as we would want it to be and so it helped me understand why not everything's always perfect in my brain all the time, right? And even in my self, sometimes I carried like I'm this guy who's making everybody happier and perform yet, I'm not always at that level.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And it helped me get rid of any guilt or shame I had about that. What about the idea of, you mentioned heart disease earlier too, which more and more people are saying is inflammation oriented in the body. More and more disease in the body has to do with inflammation. How about that's impact on the brain? So the eye in bright minds, the first eye is inflammation because it's a disaster for brain function. It's associated with Alzheimer's disease and depression and so and it's rampant. Why? Yeah. Over 90% of the population is deficient in omega-3 fatty acids, which helps quail inflammation. Lots of us have gut health issues, which increase inflammation.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And gung disease, so parodontal disease, people aren't serious about seeing the dentist, flossing really the health of their gums. That's actually the first place. It starts. And I really didn't really care about my gums in my teeth. I just really didn't think about it until I started reading the studies of parodontal disease and dementia, depression, heart disease.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And you just gotta take care of these things. That's why a huge fan of fish oil for everyone and probiotics to help their gut get well and flossing. And it's like I have to love how my immune system works. And so measuring inflammatory markers, there's one called C-reactive protein, your omega-3 index, and I did a study. We looked at 50 consecutive patients who came to Amen clinics. We took a drop of blood and we went, so what's your omega-3 index? It should be above eight. Forty-nine of them was not above eight. And it was terrible. It was just horrifying to me.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Well, I see I knew the cutting edge in people that are doing heart work, everybody, you know, this idea that you can go to an orthodontist and get a study done of the bacterias in your gums. And if that's prevalent there, it's prevalent in your heart as a very dangerous thing with heart disease. I did not know that as it related to the brain. I didn't even know that, even as we've been working together. And so that's a new one for me.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Why the big emphasis on vitamin D also? What does that do for us? And everybody, hopefully, is writing this down too, but why is that such a big deal? So the second eye in Bright Minds is immunity and infections. And vitamin D is actually the universal risk factor for illness. So the normal levels between 30 and 100 people who are above 40 have half the risk of cancer of those under 20. And when I first measured mine, and like you, I live here in Southern California, was
Starting point is 00:21:43 17. I was horrified. And when vitamin D level is low, leptin, the hormone that tells you to stop eating, doesn't work. People become leptin resistant. And when I took vitamin D, my appetite went away. Like I had been trying to lose like the extra 20 or 30 pounds
Starting point is 00:22:04 I was carrying and tried every diet, but I was always hungry. And when I increased my vitamin, and my appetite went away, and I could lose the weight because I published two studies that says your weight goes up the size of your brain goes down, which you just scared the fat off anyone. And I looked just this weekend, some people were all watching the Super Bowl, I'm working on my laptop and I looked at 20,000 38 patients. And I mapped each area of their brain compared to their BMI or their body mass index.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So I looked at healthy weight, overweight, obese, and morbidly obese. And it was a linear correlation as their weight went up. The function in every area of their brain went down, which is just shocking. When you think of 72% of Americans are overweight, 40% of us are obese. It's the biggest brain drain in the history of the United States. And now it's a national security crisis because 70 percent of people who apply for the Marines and the Army and the Navy and the Air Force, they don't take them because they're not healthy. And the Congress is going, well, we should relax the requirements.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's like, do you really want that? Do you want an unhealthy fighting force? I mean, I'm an army trained. I was an Army medic. And then I was a military doctor, an Army doctor. And I was like, no, I don't want you to lower the standards. How does that make good sense? Right.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Guys, this is just remarkable. Now let's talk about something serious. This is touchy. So when is it in your mind? I guess you can't explain an exact situation, but there are people listening to this who have family who are on lexapro or one of these drugs that are being treated, so that you're being treated
Starting point is 00:24:00 beyond natural treatments, but medically. Is there a place for that in your mind in certain cases? And I think someone who's obviously on those drugs should be careful just carte blanche getting off of them obviously. But what is your feeling about pharmaceutical treatment in some cases for brain health? So I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Your brain can have problems. It's like Your brain can have problems. It's like your heart can have problems. And sometimes if I had someone with real bipolar disorder, they should be on medication, or it could cost them their lives. Someone with schizophrenia, you bet, they should be on medicine, but they should also be doing everything else. Right. As far as things like anxiety, depression, ADHD, my bias is, well, let's try natural things first.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And in the book, there's a chapter on mind medicine versus new trussuticals. And too often the physician goes, oh, there's no science behind new trussuticals. And my comment is, do you read? Because all you have to do is go to pubmed.gov and type in saffron, and you'll see it has a level scientific evidence for depression. And as opposed to ruining your sex life, which many of the SSRI's like Lexapro do, it's pro-sexual, it will help your sex life, which many of the SSRI's, like Lexa Prodo, it's pro-sexual, it will help your sex life. And so, in that one chapter alone, there's 286 scientific references, things like fish oil, Sammy, Safron, St. John's War. But if those don't work and you're thinking of killing yourself, medication can be really
Starting point is 00:25:48 helpful. But think about this. 85% of psychiatric drugs are prescribed by non-psychiatric physicians in seven-minute office visits. So you can go to your family, doc, and go, I'm not sleeping, I'm anxious and depressed. And leave with a prescription for Ambien for sleep, Lexipro for your mood, and Xanax, which is addictive, and now we know it increases your risk of dementia in a seven minute office visit.
Starting point is 00:26:15 How we're doing this pharmaceutical thing in this country is a scandal. And we can do better, and most people don't know. As soon as you start one of these medications, they're insidious and that they change your brain to need them in order for you to feel okay. And so why not? Well, let's do the natural things first, because in medical school, they taught all of us.
Starting point is 00:26:39 First, do no harm. Use the least toxic, most effective treatments. But if they don't work, and my patients, when I decided to put them on medication, and I told you beforehand, Justin Bieber is one of my, his docu-series seasons just came out and he said, publicly, I've been his doctor. And the turning point for him is he came into my office and he said, my brain is an organ like my heart's an organ. If you told me I'd have heart disease, I'd do everything you told me. So I'm going to start doing that. This was really helpful for us.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And medicine was important for him. It was important for him. It's interesting everybody so that you know he talks about Justin Bieber. One of the ways that I was led to Dr. Ayman, who I've watched for years on all the public specials you've done and I've read other books, and here's the memory book. I read the last book yet. And the amount of people who have sat in these seats that after the interview that I work with or want me to work with them,
Starting point is 00:27:34 so many of them also worked with you. And so he's helped many of the people that you see on TV or on my show and different sports as well. And so he's been a godsend to so many of us. I want to finish this topic about prescription medication because it's clearly something that's an epidemic in the country of over prescriptions
Starting point is 00:27:52 in the seven minute office visits that you've referenced. I also love you for saying there is a space for it, though, because I believe that to be true. There's a member in my family who should be treated in my opinion with prescription medication. However, if you're listening to this and you have a loved one who's on it, I just want your counsel on this because people sometimes overreact as well because you said your
Starting point is 00:28:11 brain begins to need it when you take it. So I have a family member and I kind of have us where this started from everybody. I want to just say this when I work most of you know that I started working in that orphanage McKinley home for boys and one of the things that would break my heart every morning and night was there would be a line of my boys, these little precious eight and ten-year-old boys, whom at the time unknowingly I'm told each of them had their box of pills. And I would feed these little boys their medications at the time. I didn't even know what they were. I just knew that Jose was supposed to take one of the blue and one of the green. We were medicating these poor little boys over and over again.
Starting point is 00:28:48 The process of getting off of that medication someday is a dicey situation as well. What would your advice be that you're a parent listening to this and your kids been diagnosed with a mild form of ADD and they've given them some medication for it? Or you personally weren't dealing with your ants, weren't treating it with the different supplements that you could be taking, and you're on lexapro right now, or one of these other drugs,
Starting point is 00:29:13 what would your advice be for them to consider the process of getting off of it? How should that work for somebody? That's a hard question. Well, I think the first thing, before you even think about stop taking men is work to get your brain healthy. And so know which of the 11 risk factors you have and attack each one of them as soon as possible. Work on getting your
Starting point is 00:29:37 diet right, work on killing the ants, and then work with an integrative psychiatrist or a functional medicine doctor who's really like they're measuring your vitamin D level. They're measuring your Omega-3 index. They're really working to optimize the physical functioning of your brain. And then it becomes much easier to decrease them slowly and see if you still need them.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Right, so they're not the Antichrist, they're not evil, but are they necessary for you? And if they are, we thank God for them. And if they're not, if they're more problems than they're worth, like I'm like a huge, I don't like benzos, like Xanax, Klonep and Out of Ends, Valium, all of those, because I see what they do to the brain. But I also don't want people to be so anxious they want to kill themselves. And so you're always balancing, can I do this naturally?
Starting point is 00:30:39 And if I can't, I'm like embracing the medication. Let's talk now about, thank you for this. I'm enjoying this so much and I know the world's getting so much value out of this. Let's talk about self-medication now. And so you referenced Justin earlier and this idea, you know, a lot of people now are big believers in marijuana use to self-medicate, to sleep at night.
Starting point is 00:31:04 It's sort of gone from this area where, you know, it was for people with chronic pain, and that kind of line has moved now to where it's a culturally very acceptable thing. I wonder what your stance is on marijuana use. Yeah, I'm a bit horrified by the whole thing. When Cory Booker, so there's this presidential debate, and Joe Biden is saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:26 I'm just not sure about this. And Cory Booker goes, are you high? Like, it's been decided that this is innocuous by, I published a study on a thousand marijuana users. Every area of their brain was lower in blood flow and activity. That's what I've seen over time that it's not innocuous. Now, if your father-in-law, like my father-in-law, was dying of pancreatic cancer, I'll go buy it for him,
Starting point is 00:31:56 because it helps him eat and it makes him more comfortable. But the two big innovations in psychiatry over the last couple of years, marijuana for virtually everything. And hallucinogens, like ketamine. These are the big innovations and I'm like, well, what about vegetables? And what about mega-threat fatty acids? What about brain health, right? There's no one's talking about, let's get this organ healthy.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And I have friends who've smoked Mar marijuana for 50 years and they go, it's not hurt me at all. Then they come see me. Their brains are devastated. It's not a good thing. It's hard to break because once you let your brain do something, it's going to want to do it again. That's how habits become formed and stopping yourself is hard.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And I remember, so my first clinic was in Northern California right next to the Napa Valley of a clinic now in Walnut Creek close by. And they were actually funding studies showing that alcohol was a health food. And so you probably remember this. It's like you have to have two glasses of red wine a day. It's good for your heart.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's total nonsense. People who drink every day have smaller brains. And when it comes to the brain, size matters. It's the only organ where size matters. And-Size matters. Millions of men are thinking you were that stupid. But my wife's a nurse and why does she put alcohol on your skin before she gives you a shot? Is it kills the bugs? You really want to be killing the bugs in your gut. You have a hundred trillion of them. It's a whole ecosystem and
Starting point is 00:33:48 They make neurotransmitters. They digest your food. They detoxify your body. They help you with hormones No, you don't want to be killing them. You want to love them and take care of them because it decreases inflammation so I'm not a fan, less of all of them. Love the answer. One of the things he says to me all the time is love your brain, right? And so if you're starting these brains and their circulation is less, the brain is smaller, that's an answer that's all I need to know, right? I've never smoked marijuana, but if those of you that do, perhaps you should be listening
Starting point is 00:34:20 today. A couple more factors, then we'll get into something fun. And I'll say thank you to you. In my case cholesterol was a little bit of an issue for me. It's so we finish up my situation. So some of you that are out there on statins, this is at least something to be cognizant of, I've mentioned this people, some have said to me, well there's cholesterol on your body but your brain makes its own cholesterol as well. How important is markers like your cholesterol measures for your brain as well?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Because that's not talked a lot about in the book. And I thought I'd just ask you today. It needs to be a balance. And so really high cholesterol. I'm talking like over to 30 or to 50. You want to be careful with, especially if it's high little technical B particles for LDL. So people think of LDL as bad cholesterol.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's not bad cholesterol, right? They have big fluffy A particles that bounce off and there's just no problem. Little tiny demon B particles, they're the problem. So whenever you get your cholesterol done, it should be fractionated. So tell me about my LDL, basically. And 225 has actually been shown to go with longevity and cognitive function. Under 160. And a lot of cardiologists don't tell you this.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They're like, statin, statin, statin. I want your cholesterol as low as possible, but they're not telling you. Under 160 is associated with depression. It's associated with suicide, with homicide, and death from all causes. I have a Brethren law who has heart disease, and his doctor's always pushing it, low, low, low.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And whenever he goes under 150, he calls me and he's like, I'm so sad. I want to die. And I'm like, so I have to get on the phone with his cardiologist and go, it's a balancing act because 60% of the solid weight of your brain is fat. And cholesterol makes up a lot of that. And so you don't want it to low,
Starting point is 00:36:27 which is why I'm not a fan of low fat diets. Okay, there's a lot everybody right there. You're all these different factors that you need to be looking at. Okay, now off the medical stuff and the lab studies and those. Any daily practices you'd recommend, we talked about ants earlier,
Starting point is 00:36:45 are there daily practices and strategies that someone right now says, I've got anxiety, I've got worry, or any of those factors, I'm not focused enough, I'm not happy. It would be a daily practice you would recommend. Strategic. So in the book, there are a bunch of tiny habits,
Starting point is 00:37:00 the small things you can do, they'll make a big difference. What I do, it's actually on the top of my to-do list. Whenever I fire up my computer in the morning, on the top, it says today is going to be a great day. And I've trained myself when my feet hit the floor in the morning, just tell yourself, today is going to be a great day. And then my mind, which is so powerful, will find why it's going to be a great day. I get to hang out with you today. That makes me happy, right?
Starting point is 00:37:28 So it'll begin to retrain the negativity bias that is so hurtful and so common in people. And then I have a practice before I go to bed at night, I say a prayer, and then I go, well, well, today. And I'm always amazed because like you, I'm busy, and I just like sort of get through my day, but I find these nuggets of awesome experiences. And we just adopted my two nieces, who actually dedicate this book to. And at breakfast, why is today going to be a great day? At dinner, what went well today?
Starting point is 00:38:14 I mean, I want to know what went wrong and what we can do differently. But I want to train your mind to look for what's right, because from an evolutionary standpoint, we already look for what's wrong. Right. Survival mode. And you need to know, right, that don't worry, be happy people die the earliest, but I
Starting point is 00:38:34 want to train away the negativity bias to help you be in a happier place. It's funny that you say that, because I write that on my book as well. Gratitude exercise, what well today? Who do I love? Who loves me? And I've had people say that because I write that on my book as well. Gratitude exercise well today. Who do I love? Who loves me? And I've had people say, yeah, I try that didn't work. And what I need everybody to understand is that, yeah, if you did it one day out of 11, it won't work.
Starting point is 00:38:53 But if this becomes your habit, your routine, your behavior, your culture, it will absolutely transform your life. You will begin to see things that were always there that always existed, that were outside your filter, outside your periphery. When you begin to look for these things regularly and remind yourself, that is brilliant, brilliant, brilliant advice. A couple of things. What about sleep?
Starting point is 00:39:14 So the acid-bright mind is asleep because it is so crucial. Teenagers who get just one hour less than their peers have a higher incidence of depression and suicide. When you sleep, your brain cleans or washes itself. And if you're not sleeping seven, seven and a half hours a night, it's not giving it enough time for the cleaning crew to do their job. And if you snore loudly, stop breathing at night, you're tired during the day, you might have sleep apnea, which triples the risk for Alzheimer's disease.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So getting that properly assessed and treated is crucial. Sleep is so important. And on average in 1900, Americans got nine hours of sleep at night. Now the average is six hours and 40 minutes. You can't go through that big change in such a small period of evolution without a dramatic negative impact on the population. And a lot of it is the blue light and the gadgets.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So I'm actually a fan of blue light in the morning. Okay. But not after dark, because's on the creases. You talk a lot about social media contributing to brain health issues. Would you just reference that as you go through it? Well, in the book, I love this writing device that basically sat a Fominable ruler. And I want to increase the incidence of mental illness in America. What would I do?
Starting point is 00:40:43 And I'd create free social media apps that make everyone else's life look amazing. And by contrast, you're sucks. Be one of the first things I do. And the kids who spend the most time on social media have the highest incidence of depression and obesity. You have to be very careful with the gadgets.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And the gadgets were purposefully made to be addictive. They are after-mind share. So you know in the grocery store, the bottom two shelves go after your children because they're going after stomach share. How much of your stomach share can I get? But for Silicon Valley, it's mind share. I don't want them to have my mind. I want to be careful, but the variable reinforcement, they know exactly. It works just like Vegas.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So, really, I'm just picturing a teenager in these combination of factors. All the exposure to social media, blue light, they smoke marijuana, their diet is terrible, they're a bit overweight. And then think of pornography. That, you know, I mean, when you were an eye were young, if we could find a playboy, that was like awesome. But now, on their phones, or their friends' phones, if their parents are smart enough to put parental controls on,
Starting point is 00:42:05 which they absolutely should, they have free access to something that will shrink their frontal lobes. Now, why don't you want frontal lobes that are smaller because they run your life? That's the CEO, the executive of your life, is in the front third of your brain and exposing young boys to nonstop pornography is a disaster for development. You're so amazing. I love you, by the way. Thank you for everything you've done for me.
Starting point is 00:42:35 There's probably something I didn't ask you today, where an idea or thought you have about brain health overall or your mission right now, the book itself, the end of mental illness. What would you just want to tell everybody? Well, we didn't talk much about the MNJ, and it's like, well, why? Or, you know, because I've gotten myself into all sorts of hot water with my colleagues.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I'm a distinguished fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, but probably a more psychiatrist hate me than any other psychiatrist in the world. Why? Because I think if you don't look, you don't know. And we need to stop lying about that. When 1979 I decided to be a psychiatrist. I tell my dad and he asked me why I don't want to be a real doctor.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Why I want to be a nut doctor and hang out with nuts all day long. And my dad didn't get father of the year award. And he hurt my feelings. But 40 years later, I completely got it. What medical specialty never looks at the organ they treat? And that's just dumb. It's wrong. And the fact that I look, and that's why we built this big database. And despite incredible opposition, but it's the stories that it's like, if I don't look, I don't know. I mean, that's why we went up against the NFL because the NFL
Starting point is 00:43:52 said, oh, there's no long-term evidence to play football causes brain damage. And I'm like, are you dumb? The brain is soft. The skull is hard. The skull has sharp, bony ridges. If you went, hey, Daniel, single most important thing, you'd learn from 170,000 scans, mild traumatic brain injury ruins people's lives. And nobody knows because nobody looks. And so in the book, I really, you know, I plant my position really clearly. If you're struggling and no one's looked at your brain, well, how would they know what to do based on what you tell them? Really? Would a cardiologist act like that or an orthopedic doctor? No. And so I know the title is not going to get me more friends, but it's not mental illness. It's brain health issues. Get your brain right. Your mind will
Starting point is 00:44:47 follow. I think you're so important. You've been so important in the world for so many decades because of the work you've done, but right now, maybe the most important. And the reason for that is, I think this book would be a catalyst to change that whole paradigm of shame and keeping a quiet and being embarrassed by it and understanding that your brain is an organ, that it should get looked at, that you can treat this, that it is a medical issue, correct? This is something that can get healthier and get better. And you guys, you got to get the book. I mean, it's to get this much information from this man who's done hundreds of thousands
Starting point is 00:45:20 of brain scans with people from all over the world, and you can get this in a book, you need to get it. And so I highly recommend you go get the end of mental illness, you can go to endofmentalillness.com, you can go wherever great books are sold. Thank you so much. I love you, I loved today, I'm so grateful you're in my life. And I just know that we changed and helped lives.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And you know what else saved some lives today. So thank you so much, brother. Yeah, I love you, back. Thank you for the opportunity. I love you. All right, much, brother. Yeah, I love you back. Thank you for the opportunity. I love you. All right, everybody. Hey, you know, I bring you the best people in the world every single week on this show in their air of competency. And I want to engage with you more. I want to know more about you so I know who to bring you. And so for that reason,
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